Andrew Tate & Pearl Are NOT Mens Rights Advocates
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I've watched Pearl before and I know that there are multiple examples of her telling guests on her show about the raw deal men get. I know she has brought up male suicide rates, incarceration, and divorce court unfairness, and she has humbled many guests on her show, bringing up similar points
Repeating facts to make money isn’t being an advocate.
@dillwack I wouldn't say her prime motivator is money, she's on several occasions stated she'd like to be a trad wife and it's not like she doesn't come from money.
@@inquisitorgrynthebandito2736 Very true but what she concentrates on is gaining fame and followers rather than doing any real good in the world.
@Dan261178 I think she does plenty of good. Unlike some she has opened some modern women's eyes WITHOUT shaming them or bringing them to absolute tears in the process. The one thing I appreciate is how quick she is to point out that women have it easier in today's society and does put and appropriate amount of accountability on women with regard to reproduction. She's very quick to point out stats which is seems many don't care for at all.
@@inquisitorgrynthebandito2736 Without shaming them? Obviously we have been watching different videos because she is constantly shaming women in the videos of her that I have seen.I`m not saying that some of the points she makes are right,but her motives are anything but altruistic.There is a video called "The Truth About Pearl" which gives a behind the scenes glance,although to be fair you might want to sift what the guy says because hes clearly got his own agenda too.But thats the thing about it,at the end of the day there is always an ulterior motive.
People really need to understand that its not supposed to be a zero sum game.
Too many Mens Rights spheres tear down women to build up men, in the same way that too many Feminist spheres tear down men to build up women.
We'll only see positive change when everyone gets on board with trying to empathize with each other, work together, and take fucking accountability when your side is wrong.
Thank you, Roma. I appreciate that you support Men's Rights, but arent afraid to call out toxic people and mindsets in the community. Too many people aren't willing to.
Do you know my stances on these topics:
Police brutality.
Drug addiction.
Suicide. Divorce. Rape. Education. False allegations. Mental health.
Prison reform.
Anti-dowry laws.
Incarceration.
Male disposability.
Military conscription. Paternity fraud.
Reproductive rights. Coercive control. Homelessness.
Men's health.
Domestic abuse.
Fathers Rights. Circumcision.
Child custody. Alimony.
What topics do you feel like you don’t know my stance on ?
Thank you roma, these are all things I would love to get Tate and Pearl's insight on. However, it's difficult to get through and ask them bc it goes unanswered, no response, or starts and all out bitch fit in the comments 🤷🏻♂️ thanks for questioning, I'd love too hear there stance on this. Maybe they'd be open to sharing, maybe they just arnt aware. Eaither way, I would love to hear there insight
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Jk jk lol
I struggle with reactive attachment disorder. I would like to know what your thoughts are on reactive attachment disorder?
Suicide, divorce, rape, false allegations, mental health, paternity fraud, reproductive rights, men's health, domestic abuse, father's rights and custidy I do.
it gets worse with race involved
Going to be honest seeing your videos do help my mental health as an autistic 17 year old boy the world isn't too nice to me
Patrick, I’m sorry that you have to deal with that at such a young age. I’ve never been someone that’s treated people that are different from me as less than. Even though I never treated them poorly I failed to see their struggles in life, that is until my nephew was born and diagnosed with Asperger’s. I see it all the time in how people look at him, speak to him and treat him. I envy him because his heart is pure and he doesn’t see the evil in this world. He’s given me so much without even knowing he’s having such a positive impact on me. You’ve had that same impact on others as well even though you may not know that. Keep your head up young man. You have a purpose and a path. Be a voice for all the other kids like you. Be brave and stand tall because you are unique and there are people out there who care about you, even if you’ve never met them.
Teen years are a very tough time in any man's life. Having the challenge of being on the spectrum doesn't make it easier. Try to stay on the mission of being your best self. By the time you are in your early 20s, things will get better. Hang in there! 👍
I hope it only gets better for you, I think it will
Be strong Patrick. it is a long race, you will get better at it in time. hugs
Hey brother! You're not alone! As a 53yr old male, I was diagnosed in 2020 with high functioning ASD and ADHD. I have stumpled through life due to not knowing. The number of jobs i;ve lost due to those workplace "karens" exceeds the fingers on both hands. Thankfully you are getting the help we need to adapt. I've learned to mask very well. When I was tested, they were also testing a hypothesis to understand how I.Q impacts ASD. Mine puts me in the gifted catagory. With that, I've learned to mask very well. it's helped tremondously to get the world to accept me as "normal". i really like the perspective she gives on things. ... Now on the flip side, masking to survive is one thing. Trying to date and let someone into your inner sanctum of your personal space and truly get to know you... that's a whole new ballgame. 6yrs ago after my mom died, I developed trust issues and because most people don't stick around long, trusting others is hard. So these things combined make successful dating hard. I hope you don't have these same issues.
I've always had issues with the manosphere and red pill community but never could put my finger on what my issue with them was. Seeing the hiding in plan sight side by side comparison with modern feminists really was eye opening. I'm always grateful for your consistent and honest thoughts and breakdowns of modern issues.
You’re listening to a single mom with an OF page bruh….
@@darthbrooks4933 your kinda judging the book by the cover aren't you, just because roma is on o.f. doesn't make her her bimbo who knows nothing just because I agree with this video doesn't mean I'm gonna base my life on it. I actually really like pearly things, the dadvocate and many other pro family pro men groups. My issue has always been with red pill or manosphere and the hypocrisy they talk about, especially with regards to sexual liberation.
@@darthbrooks4933 not you proving the very point... So if she says " 2+2=4 " just bcuz she has a only fans now make her wrong?
@@skydance3388morally… yes
@@DatActiveGuy the men are the ones subscribing to it tho.
I wouldn’t classify just pearly things as a MRA. I would say she simply brings to light, all the crap that men go through and all the bs that women can bring into a man’s life.
id classify pearly as moderator/host with lot to say. think of the view without whoopy geared to what men think
Yeah I'm sorry she be saying wild shit too
@@jugaloking69dope58 I miss Whoopy. Too bad the rest of The View cast was mostly bigots at the time, though.
@@MetalSStar196 nonsense
i agree
Pearl is making a documentary on Father's rights and the court system. Ahe speaks on majority of those topics you brought up quite often.
You dudes will fall for anything 🤦🏾♂️
@@economiccrisis9267 you chicks will deny everything?
Pearl HAS spoken on men's rights many times.
@Frivolous Activities you reek of someone who doesn't know anything about Pearl and never seen any of her videos.
She said herself she doesn't watch her content very often because she was blocked. She does use her as an example at first but changes to Radical feminism overall rather than talking about her specifically. She actively admits her lack of knowledge on Pearl and even said that she has said and done some good things. To be clear I have no opinion on Pearl because I have not seen her content so I can not say she is a radical feminist or not just speaking about Roma and this video specifically. If Pearl is doing that I think that is a good thing though.
She’s never been an MRA but I appreciate that she kinda forces you to look at hypocrisy that surrounds men especially when it comes to the standard we are held to vs. women
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Don't be fooled by pearl cause I've heard her say on other people's podcasts she won't date a guy who doesn't have the three 6's
I dont agree with everything tate says but i have to be honest roma, completely embracing the self improvement part of his message has utterly changed my life. I dont want 10 women or a billion dollars, i just want to provide and protect my kids. And my life has flipped 180 degrees. For that im eternally grateful to tate for that. And on the flip side its been a breath of fresh air hearing your views and im also grateful for that too. Sometimes all we need is a nudge to get moving and tate, you and others have given it to me at least. Wanted to thank you for that.
Why can't you just be amazing without Andrew Tates influence... The guy is an absolute idiot.
the thing is, you didn't need tate for that, the things he says are the same things dozens of others are also saying, he's just the most known and unlike him those others actually mean it when they say those things
@@Bath0rius exactly
@@Bath0rius some people need tough love. The same message can’t always be heard depending on who gives it.
@@Bath0rius the guy believes in what he says, he would have stopped being in the public eye a long time ago to avoid the shit he's been going through right now if he didn't, you just don't like his outlook on life or certain aspects of it, which is perfectly fine I don't either but I will say I respect the man for taking all the shit he has and still stands up for what he believes in, and I think he's helped a lot of young men wake up and step up and do better and be better gym, make money, and avoid shitty women in relationships, pretty good advice in my opinion
The problem with the manosphere is that they preach about high value but then the example are just who drive a fancy car.
Not necessarily... We can say somethin bout the womansphere, but we don't
@@5Akecheta4 facts funny chloe tries to say she supports mens rights and is against addiction yet she profits off of mens porn addiction and lonely men with her onlyfans
@@Josh-em6ml She doesn't do that kinda sh*t
@@Josh-em6ml Bruh, how gullible are you? Like the other clowns?
Two of her brothers tried to life end.
People are angry that she is making money but pearl is the only woman I've seen who invites women in her show and points out to these women that their words indicate they disregard men as human beings
Sneako and others like him do the same on their podcasts. Well, Sneako did before he was de-platformed after aligning himself with Tate
Have her invite me, I'll love to chat with her. Of course, I don't have a platform. Those women have a platform and she does sign a contract with them. Peal gets the bigger portion.
Although I try to always see the best in people. I do believe pearl is extremely shallow and has no idea the depth of what she says. It does more damage when you can’t defend your stance against anyone who can give you real push back. Esp when you draw a divide against women’s issues that are clearly there and should be acknowledged, that’s not anti men ya know?
@@MAruGGs pearl is 🗑
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You are particularly right at 13:37 . The society is much more gentle towards females when they make mistakes, than it is towards males. Despite this fact, a lot of women still claim that they are the one who are mistreated by the society. This just makes me sick.
@Object Blue ... you want to talk oppressed?
Look up the difference on the oppression of women and the oppression of men.
O wait your a sexist feminist arn't you... nvm you just believe in what feminist tell you to believe in
There's no need to change this fact. Just acknowledge its existence cause it's just the way humans are wired normally.
@Object Blue By "oppress anyone" do you mean being weaker?
Both men and women can be oppressed in different topics. Recently abortions in the US being banned in certain states removed women’s say in whether they wanted a baby in them for 9 months that they may not have been able to or wanted to take care of. At the same time men are oppressed in ways such as with a lack of options of contraceptives and not being taken seriously with rape allegations. Both men and women can and are being oppressed by society and it is important to not get carried away with being on one side otherwise you’ll be just as bad as Tate and rad-fems
That's generally the point Pearl tries to make.
So, I will say, I respect your channel, love the content, I understand your perspective, but as a 25 yr old man who has his father die at 23, and his fiancee leave only months after, Pearl gave me a lot of perspective into women's motives and mindset. And I was very biased to listening to women for emotional matters, due to upbringing and environment.
Andrew Tate was much more firm with the need for my demand to be better. I needed both of them for a better perspective.
You have given me a great reminder that I matter. All three are important to fixing my mindset that had me in a very dark place, after a very harsh time.
So I respect your opinion, but Andrew and Pearl have provided a lot of value to my direction and focus. You have provided a ton to my patience with myself.
Roma has just outlined that they don't work to better men's lives legislatively, they're male advocates.
you did that my boy, not them. you could've made that change even if it was someone else who said the words. the problem is just because they say the odd thing that makes sense and is correct doesn't make up for all the other greasy shit. andrews scams for one are a perfect examples
Andrew take ok i can understand,
But pearl no
Andrew Tate is a convicted Rapist.. I really think you should think twice before looking upto him.
I am a man disillusioned with relationships entirely and choose instead to live to build myself. Some call me MGTOW but really id be in a relationship tomorrow if it wasn't for the issues you brought up, Society has made marriage and relationships so biased that id honestly rather not deal with it. I would love to have kids and a family. However I've seen this turn into a nightmare for to many of my friends to even try. To many of my friends get in relationships just to be treated like trash by women and lose everything they have or ever will have to the courts.
You know men can be surrogate or you know me and can't just adopt if that's your idea having a great family one day you can just adopt whatever women with two guys can go to the same without going through the divorce and the child been taken away and all that nonsense
I understand you have trust issues but you have to understand that there ARE good women out there. There’s a woman out there right now probably thinking the same thing that she wants a family but she’s perhaps scared of societal issues. I’ll be praying for you brother but I promise that if you make good decisions, you can find the right woman. Not every relationship ends in divorce
I know life is hard, but first step is to forgive yourself. You don't have to forgive others, just know that you did what you could. Take care of yourself before you can take care of others they say. Next is to find yourself, what do you want your partner to accept about yourself? I'd there a part of you that will never change? Is there a hobby that you like that you will never stop? What are you willing to do or give to another person? Whatever it's, make it clear. It won't be easy or fast, but you'll find the one. And if you a person that ends up being alone, know that you are not the only one. Some people choose to be alone, and it's okay.
My guy if there's nothing that retain you from the west i highly suggest you to learn about foreign country (Philippines, China, Thaïland and other beautiful country and also some in Africa are great one too) and when you adore one of the culture of a beautiful country, i would say try to go there for couple of mount and if you date a girl that you really like, i would say go stay there forever!! Filipina are great fo me they speak english even thoo im French Canadian but almost bilingual (i just talk i got a lot of grammar mistake ^^') and their culture are really good, now of course i would love to have a wife that is Québécoise, but if nothing appen afther my 35ft birthday, my plan B is going in the Phillipines!! hope that i did help you! Take care brother!! hope you the best
@frankmartel3428 it's fine and we'll if yiu do this, but it's more then just what you said. People who do this need to adopt the culture and respect it. Don't go in with a in and not change and expect things to go your way. Some places even have religious things.
And this is why I like your content
you believe in true equality
So what, Tate isn't for equality?
We got a low-key hater of Tate
@@5Akecheta4 funny thing about the tate haters is that they are still fans they just wanna see his downfall and hate on him they still watch his content which makes him money 😂😂😂 they're fuckinc dumb tate is top g for a reason
@@5Akecheta4 would not say she is attacking him or Pearl, he is teaching young men to work on themselves, that is not about mens rights but rather life style, men's rights are about equal outcomes regarding divorce and options a woman can opt out of a pregnancy a man can not, that is a major one Roma and such talk about, Tate is focused on how to be "top" G, so life style choices and being a role model in that sense as to what you can do with hard work.
He has certain viewpoints that damage the men's rights movements message, so i get why advocates of men's rights want to distance themselves from him.
@@japkap As someone who has been around since the mra back in 05, the first problem is. The mra is a branch of the manosphear itself. So, if you are a mra, Red 💊, a guy leaving the dating Sean, or a past port guy. You are manosphear. You are using the same talking points. Also, every woman in it is a grifter because they are just reusing the same talking points the men said for years, but you will only get 75% of the message because they will take the parts that they don't like out.
It's not about them being genuine.
It's about them bringing in alot of attention. People like Tate and Pearl draw in numbers to the cause.
Of course they do not care about us. We aren't dumb. We know no one on youtube or the internet is sitting there worried about our well being.
Even You, Roma, don't know us individually enough to care outside of "well if they died, that's awful."
Tate and Pearl are good because they draw in attention and make the movement mainstream.
We have been living with the knowledge no one cares about us most of our lives. But those two give the unseen visibility.
And that's how we win. Numbers and visibility.
As far as Tate insulting people "Your life is shit. You are shit"---It is the sort of call out men used to give one another. The hard criticism we need to hear. No more coddling. No more "you are equally important as all the other 8 billion lives!"
Just Reality you have to deal with. It is responsibility.
WE ARE responsible for our own lives. It's accountability for your life instead of blaming circumstance.
Tate is a douchebag. 100%. But he makes good points
It still needs to be pointed out by people. As the metaphor goes about the frog and the boiling water, it can be quite easy for people to miss slight difference or changes over time. Life is nuanced and it can be easy for people to become 'radicalised' on various topics without them noticing, especially online with how easy it is to fall into echo chambers.
You and me and maybe most people might be able to notice when the topics start going from genuine mens right to mgtow but there are probably a lot of people who won't notice it and will move from one content creator to the next as they are recommended by the algo, thinking they are talking about the same thing and before they know it they are in some hate filled community. Just enough of each persons points align with mens that they can pass themselves off as being the same but often their real goal is to push their other points under the guise of mens rights.
I noticed something similar myself with a lot of weightlifting/bodybuilding motivation videos. A lot of them are just about men pushing themselves to be the best they can be in that particular area, but every second or third video is blatantly anti-gay, anti-women, anti-trans etc.. Embrace masculinity can be a powerful message when it is about self improvement and being the best person you can be, but it often crosses the line with messages like femininity is inferior to masculinity, trans people are lesser, women are lesser, gay people are lesser, anyone who doesn't 100% commit to masculinity in every way we personally describe it here is lesser.
Like I said I can spot the difference, you probably could too, and many others, but there will be quite a few people who will embrace the negative messages a lot more than the positive ones. And we can potentially increase the number of people who can see the differences if we have others in a related area point out those differences.
The radicalization started long before pate and pearl got popular. You see this with the rise of the vastly negative aspects of MRA and the quote-unquote incels. Men were becoming radicalized and pissed off and we're going to do something probably a lot more violent if people like Tate Pearl and roma hadn't started talking about our problems I could have easily seen the radicalization getting far worse because none of these people call for violence absolutely none of them do and if things going on just a little bit longer and we've gotten people that were getting popularized like like the feminazis then things would have been a lot worse by now I think or at least in the next two years
Where do you see anti gay and anti woman content in bodybuilding/motivation videos? I see anti trans content a lot because they deserve it, transgenderism is not something to be glorified or simply accepted. But I haven’t seen anything against gays, and most any content against women is because of their BS on taking videos of “gym creeps” that don’t deserve to be accused of such BS.
Pearl is just trash
You can't say that andrew tate is a douchebag when your saying that he makes "good points." Thats like saying somebody doesnt like an individual for telling the truth.The things that he talks about women and men are very true and based off of psychological thinking between the way male and female think. Pearl is considered to be a MRA because she also agrees that women are supposed have there own role the same as men play there gender role.
Andrew Tate is the living embodiment of a gym teacher telling you to “just walk it off”.
Which is absolutely appropriate a lot of the time and a good lesson to learn so you have the inner strength to do so when it is
I think all 3 of you ( Roma ,.Tate and Pearl ) are all important facets to drawing attention to men and their issues . You ( Roma) are definitely a mens rights advocate doing great work. Pearl brings alot of attention to issues alot of women have never considered. Tate is a blunt and intelligent man who is metaphorically the type of friend every man needs . Slightly over the top but intelligent and honest to say things in a brutal and hard hitting way . And telling men to be better and to be the best versions of themselves. Nowadays i think all 3 of you are doing good work
Exactly, this is just showing that Chloe is still not fully red-pilled. She believes other people's (feminist) descriptions of her peers, and feminist definitions of the manosphere/MRA distinction.
I will not support anyone who tries to undermine other creators based on feminists narratives, I will drop Roma over them if she carries on like this personally.
@@ESS284 you can't really justify that christmas tweet of Tates though. Thats just a bad look. I mean, he was right, but its not very helpful to tear people down without also giving them advice or encouragement on how to improve themselves.
@@dillongage I don't feel that I need to justify it. I agree with some ideas of his and some ideas I don't, that should be true of everyone. We as men need to avoid the marxist/feminist/leftist jedi mind trick that our opponents use called "tone policing" where they make the debate about the way the message is delivered rather than the content, this is an explicit debate tactic they use to control men.
That tweet, even if it is distasteful as hell in your opinion, doesn't make the true stuff less true.
@E S I don't think she ever will be red pilled. She's coming at it too much from a blank slate equalism perspective. That said, she points out the hypocrisy of feminism wonderfully
What Andrew Tate (willfully) overlooks is that real masculinity most often occurs in the mundane. I say willfully because he knows he's selling you an unattainable, pie-in-the-sky version of manhood, but that's the point - he quite literally monetises his idea of masculinity.
"Fast cars, fast women, big houses; it can all be yours if you just take my $49 course".
Being a good man means waking up daily and doing your best to provide for your family. It means making painful sacrifices that no one will ever see. It means resisting temptations. It means being accountable. It means being present. It means working on yourself, even when that's the hardest fucking thing you'll ever do. There are millions of nameless, faceless men slogging away in the mundane, doing their best to be the best man their wives, kids, and communities could ask for. They're not superheroes or rockstars - they're ordinary people working tirelessly to keep their families comfortable, happy, and safe. It's not anything like the Andrew Tate 'dream', but that's the point. Kids aren't raised by rockstars. Strong marriages aren't built on a foundation of one-sidedness. BUT, when you work on being a great father, a great husband, and a great man, you will be rewarded by things that Andrew Tate could never dream of having.
"you will be rewarded by things that Andrew Tate could never dream of having."
okay, like what?
@@lanikinlywalker4596 A family that loves you. A strong marriage that withstands the test of time. Stability. Consistency. Respect. The knowledge that, despite life's temptations, you are a good man, deserving of the life you have built.
@@graemebland4169 and you're saying he doesn't have any of this?
@@lanikinlywalker4596 I'm not sure if you're a bit simple or indoctrinated by his nonsense, because it's pretty clear to see that he doesn't have any of the above. Either way, here are the facts:
Andrew Tate does not have any good, loving familial ties to note. His brother rides off the success of his (unsavoury) businesses. His sister disdains him. He has no wife or kids and any that he did have would not respect him on a worthwhile level. He has been dodging governments and authorities for years - not stable. He's had assets seized and frequently talks about threats to his wellbeing - not secure. His life has been a series of unscrupulous money grabs and anyone that lives that way is not deserving of any sort of respect, happiness, or success. They may garner temporary success, fear-based respect, and faux happiness, but that's not a life worth living.
@@graemebland4169 excuse my simple brain but can you summarize all that for me?
Someone I watch a lot is Mediocre Tutorials and Reviews. He's an important figure in men's rights and a really good role model for men to look up to.
His content is always a hit, never a miss. I believe you two would be great in a collaboration.
No, he's just like Andrew Tate.
Honestly I've been super sketchy about the representation of the mrm groups lately, yourself included. But this video deserves a shout out and respect for coming out on an issue within these groups that needs to be addressed. I appreciate you Roma for the things you have been doing lately for the mrm community, and the positivity you push into the world ❤
BIG DEAL. She criticized her COMPETITORS.
Her product isn't selling well..so she flung monkey-poo at them. I don't need to be told by a millennial how to view my interactions she hasn't ever witnessed.
I've been a grown adult twice as along as she's been alive, and I can tell you she doesn't care about men. She doesn't care about me.
She just wants clout and money, like any woman.
@OneMoreVoice I don't think pointing out the dangers in some of Andrew's viewpoints while also indicating how some of what he says has helped some people would be considered "flinging monkey poo". If anything, she's being as objective and as unbiased as possible.
Secondly, being insightful isn't something that is exclusively gained by someone who has lived a certain number of years. You could be four times her age and still be as dumb as dirt, in which case the only respect you're getting as an elder would be in the fact that you've managed to live that long when you should have died way before then.
Don't go jumping to conclusions and be more observant of what's happening around you and maybe then you might have a point.
@@c6rn6g2k1d Just leave it at your first three words.
I don't care what passes for thoughts in your head
You're boring ,you cookie-cutter indoor housecats.
"Dangers".
Your generation has no idea what that is.
You think it means 'disagreement".
@@OneVoiceMore no, its simply that the hit pieces worked. as credibility of the top manosphere influencers drop, other creators in it will start throwing them under the bus. you saw it with sneako. the tates ditched him bcs people were debunking him and when the tates got arrested, sneako ditched them and reverted to his pre-tate content. the manosphere is burning itself down and i must say its quite glorious.
@@quibble9003 No.
To all you say.
And shush. Bitches who lead with 'no' have no impact on me. I said what I said and it didn't require your edits.
Never will.
You're not cackling at a bonfire in your head, are you? because you sound like you're cackling at a bonfire, like, with your coven.
You've done an exceptional job in being a men's rights advocate. While nobody ever agrees 100% of the time, you get it right far more than not.
I can say the same for Tate
@@cooterswift916indeed
You’re so wonderful😌fellow woman here who thinks all these things should be heard but too anxious to make videos like you. Thank you
Haven't seen tate claim to be a mens right activist. I have seen him talking about the difference between men and women and what men need to do to achieve their goals
the red pill movement is just another episode of the men's rights chronicles. it's all the same shit.
@@mmgvii8076 no its not. being red pill is about knowing female nature and how to navigate that, level up (physicly, financially etc) to get to a point where you're the one women are chasing. Its also about knowing how the current laws will affect you, in regards to marriage or living together, so you can avoid getting raked in court. Red pill is about reality and not what might be. Its: heres the law and how to deal with it. Not sulk around wishing for laws to be changed to be fair towards both genders.
In fairness to Pearl, she does talk about that stuff (father's rights, child custody, etc). She is primarily a dating and relationships UA-camr (or whatever platform). She isn't a campaigner but she does hold Women accountable. I listen to her a lot.
No she caught on a trend on social media and recognized that a woman reading off the red pill side bar is like printing money.
@@ethosterros9430 That's called being an opportunistic cynic.
She never claimed to be an MRA. That's enough of a reason for not labeling her as one
@@salvadorbuschittari6870 it's enough to label her as a piece of shit fraud
@@MetalSStar196 she fits the bill if u ask me
I've watched lots of Pearl videos and she never claimed to be an MRA nor has she defined her political position
LOL she is literally paid and funded by the MRA.. How naive can one man be !
Ive heard just pearly things talk almost all the time about those topics. Suicide, child rights, entrapment and all that. I respect the both of you
I watch Pearl, because I love watching her dismantle delusional women, but Roma has a good point. Why is she so obsessed with women being "used up" for having high body counts and men being applauded for having high body counts? Her obsession with putting men and women in traditional boxes is very strange considering she begins with such good logic then directs it to a very biased sexist (for men and women) conclusion.
@@mprice6683 there is a lot of projection and competitive jealousy on Romas part in this video towards pearly its not a good look. What exactly are Roma motives..... she is trying to make money in exactly the same way but even more emotive. she should check herself for real.
@@zorastin the difference is, Roma doesn't just go along with every dumb thing men say to push a grift. you can tell she's an actual mra because she'll call men on their shit too. Tate and Pearl will tell their audience anything if it means growing their engagement, but the reality is, Tate is a pimp and Pearl is a femcel.
@@zorastin You are the one reacting emotionally, not Roma. She has proved things about your hero that you refuse to accept even though she gave proof. Pearl gives facts about women being delusional and narcissists just like Roma, but then she jumps to her agenda with no proof or reasoning. How does she get from numbers to "women with high body counts are used up". Roma's conclusions are based on the facts she presents, not her devotion to the old gender roles.
@@mprice6683 listen im no big fan of pearls or of romas but ive seen enough of each. There is no need for this natural woman bitchy competitiveness from roma..... Roma has her own grift with this stuff. its fine i can respect that but she is no different than pearl with what pays the bills. respect to both of them. i feel you be simping a little. there is nothing wrong with traditional gender roles as is the case with the opposite.
You know one of the things that leaves me scratching my head about feminists is precisely their twisted misguided and mischaracterized definition of masculinity.
Masculinity is integrity, it's the ability to do the right thing when it's hard, it's putting your strength in service of others, it means upholding and defending your ideals and values, controlling and mastering your instincts and even choosing to make sacrifices for the greater good. How a sane person can call this "toxic" is beyond me
To me that sounds more like a definition of emotional maturity. I know several women who possess all of those qualities.
Toxic masculinity and masculinity in general aren't the same thing though. You can be masculine and not be toxic about it. What you stated isn't toxic, but that's not what many would call "toxic masculinity" anyway.
That’s not what anyone’s calling toxic though. When people refer to “toxic” masculinity they’re talking about how guys spend so much time not feeling their emotions because they were raised to suppress them that they eat a gun one day. Shit like that.
@@SuperSecretAgentNein That is exactly the problem. I feel most people are confused about what masculinity even is. The behaviors called "toxic masculinity" are not masculine at all. Toxic masculinity does not exist. Resolving issues with fists is not masculine, having the capacity for violence and instead choosing calm reasoning is; bossing women around and disrespecting them is not masculine, earning their trust and being worthy of their respect is; pretending not to feel emotions is not masculine, embracing your humanity in a balanced way and remaining stoic in the face of hardship is. Really I could go on forever.
@@dandotvid Not according to feminists
i agree with the idea of hiding your emotions because both men and women will use mens emotions to manipulate them and a stoic man is harder to manipulate
"People cannot show each other their true feelings. Fear, suspicion and resentment never subside".
~Madara Uchiha (Naruto)
EVERY single mother with throat tattoos:
Pearl & Tate are wrong.
I mean, Tate is a convicted rapist, so.. yeah pretty sure he's not a good role model to anyone.
Damn girl this had to be your best video I've seen! Completely unbais real talk, even not afraid of throwing your own name in analysis! Keep up the great work and thank you for being a voice that stands up for men's issues when other females would just say men are being babies or "insecure"...
2 minutes in and I couldn't agree more! Thanks for voicing this! It truly is a important distinction to make. ❤🙏
I really admire people who avoid sticking to one side of an argument/issue and just use their common sense to form a reasonable opinion...super refreshing
Ehh not refreshing at all
First thought: I need no advocates! Second thought: Advocate for yourself and quit expecting someone to do it for you.
One man alone cannot change society. We need to work together to make change.
This is one of your best videos ever.
It shows the facets of how complex this topic is.
Such a great educational piece in its entirety.
Thanks so much for that.
Part of the 'manosphere' definition of "providing" IS caring for the weak and disabled and it IS being empathetic
I've not seen that expressed anywhere.
@@bogusmcbogus2637 Yeah i think it's not expressedly defined, but it is certainly in many of the hearts of the 'manosphere'.
The thing people don't understand with Tate, is:
1. He says one thing and done another
2. His character has drastically changed in the last 2 years, you have to figure out WHEN a clip you see was actually taken
If you go to cobratate.com and read his 41 tenets cobratate.com/41-tenets
you'd say WOW this guy is a saint
see for yourself ;)
Correct. Though let's not let the _truth_ get in the way of _selective_ outrage.
@Tech W!z Yeah, he doesn't live those virtues.
No it's not. Especially if you're talking about beingbhead of a household or family
Roma didnt deface anyone here, infact shes questioning just as we all should. "Do you really know?" Id love to hear there insight on these valid points roma spoke on
Do you mean the same way we question her? Every woman is a grifter. Why? Because they get that information from the men creator's and just repeat the same things. But one difference. They will not tell you the info that they do not like. So you get 75% of the message.
@@reyarthur2792 What did you prove in your statement? Can you dispute the PROVEN numbers and FACTS in Roma's video? I love watching Pearl destroy delusional feminists but she can't back up anything she says with facts.
@@mprice6683 then that sound like you do not listen to her that much because she do give out data. Stop looking and shorts and get look at the full stream. You want to base your opinion on a small potion. Roma wanted to talk trash about how body notch doesn't matter and I was able to make a call out video finding the information, proving her wrong. What she is doing right now is called content strategy. Make the other person look bad, to make yourself look good then to improve. If I can't move up, then I'll knock you down.
@@reyarthur2792 I do watch the videos. I am not talking about the data that Roma and I would agree with, I am talking about how she gets from there to the conclusion that a woman is not "wife material" for have a high body count. Who says? Why? Is a man only valued by his money? Why? Is it because it has always been that way? Prove why that is better for society. You can't. The manosphere is just as bad as feminism. Explain how any of the agreeable facts she presents concludes that women should be wives and men should be providers. The jump from facts to pure opinion is absurd.
@@mprice6683 just sent that study, also if you say the manosphear is the same as feminism. I say with every action, you have a equal or opposite reaction. Plus, did people forgot or wasn't around but the mra is part of the manosphear. It's a branch of it, just like red 💊 and guys leaving the dating market. Mgt...ow. So, if she know what she was talking about, she would have know that she was part of it. Also the manosphear is a space for men to debate, break down, despite and debunk the incorrect propaganda that feminism has put out against men throughout the years.
It is so cathartic and emotional for me to have some one layout what I always knew and felt deep down my entire life.
Yes, most people love hearing their own opinions coming out of other people's mouths.
Roma! I get this now so clear! Great explanation for the situation we're in
THIS NEEDED TO BE SAID, thank you so much for using your platform to bring clarify to this issue!
I have seen many of your videos and I can day, with confidence, that I understand and even respect your views on all of the issues in that circle toward the beginning of the video. You are one of the only people that really care enough to understand and empathize with the things men go through daily. We are blessed to have you and I will always appreciate everything you do for us. Thank you so much, Roma.
I had only seen clips of your content now and again but up until this very important video had not decided to subscribe - I respect a content creator willing to risk losing core audience (such as some manosphere folks who also follow you) in order to draw this important line in the sand. Good job!
@@alexbjj895 oh my god that bot is pissing me off. If I get one more notification only to find out its the bot replying to me, I will just snap.
Tate and Pearl are both grifters
Tate isn't
How's Tate a grifter?
Ok so he isn't one.. You just wanna say sh*t
@@5Akecheta4 He wants women to be enslaved.Being virgin is not enough
@@Blackpill149 Explain why he wants women to be
Grifters are gonna be grifters gentlemen. What I always do is remember what actualy works and ignore or laugh at the nonsense. Walk your own way in life.
they are not men's right advocates, they never said they were, they are red pillers... which is different animals. i see that third parties trying to blur the line of these different groups. many of these groups are clout chasers trying to gain traction with these high profile people.
yep red pill
I'm going to put my two cents here: going to the gym and having a lot of money don't make you an "alpha". Your actions do. I've met in my life a bunch of really despicable guys who were at first glance perfect examples of alpha males (like Tate) and women that knew everything we guys should do in our personal life while they failed in theirs (like Pearl). Let's be careful with generalizations and whom we take advice from. Most young folks are intelligent enough to figure things out without the need of self-entitled people they don't know nothing about with questionable life choices shouting at them what they have to do and what they should do to became proper grown men.
I think Tate has done something that I’m sure will save a lot of men from killing themselves. A sense of purpose through tough love, as well as realizing trauma and heartbreak can be used as fuel to build discipline and become a great man. Also demystifying women in their eyes. Your focus should always be becoming the best version of yourself first and the rest is added bonus.
This video is absolute briiliance, how it can be labeled inappropriate is bexond me. Absolutely must-see. Good job.
Thank you for keeping the stream of truth flowing. Ignore the ignorance. Smash the stupid. Keep the flame of REAL equality burning bright. You are loved and respected, valid and necessary. Rock on, Chloe.
I’ve been watching this channel for a couple of months but have never commented. I just wanna say for the men who are out there who are in the position I was in 6 years ago. I couldn’t see my kid and was the scum of the earth per my ex , know it can change. She went off the edge because I had stopped showing her attention because our daughter was born and was showering all my affection on her. She decided she was going to teach me a lesson and started seeing some other guy and started a war. I don’t understand why women think that ever works. I’ll show him and make him jealous and then he’ll see and come running back. Uhhhh no, you slept with another man and we’re married. That makes you repulsive to me. We’ll long story short after her leaving me and me not graveling for her to come back she screwed up her life and ended up on drugs because of it. Of course that was all my fault as well. But she eventually got her self into some trouble with the law because of Drugs and my daughter ended up coming and living with me. It saddens me to say this but my wife ended up passing away because she ended up crossing the wrong person over some drugs and stuff. But me and my daughter are happy and doing good. I’ve done a lot of praying on my knees and had a lot of sleepless nights but it’s all worth it. Don’t give up and don’t stop praying because you never know when the tide will change. I’m here if anybody needs to talk. I’ve been there and understand!
You are everthing I aspire to be someday sir. Your story brought me to tears. My condolences for the disruption to your family, and for the loss of your wife. She had her problems, but she was still the mother of your child. No little girl should have to grow up without a mother.
The dedication and unwavering commitment to your daughter is inspiring to me as well. Idk when exactly it started, but for the last year or so I started to want a daughter some day. I never thought I would want kids, but something about the bond between Father and daughter speaks to me on a spiritual level. Everytime I see videos or read stories about fathers who move mountains for their daughters, or daughters that still cherish their fathers when theyre all grown up, I get more emotional than I have ever been. Even at funerals Im barely phased but seeing that bond just.... idk. It just does something to me.
I'm only 23, so kids are still a ways off, but I hope someday to be as good a father as you are. Much love and respect man. ❤ I wish the best to you and your daughter.
Jesus I was not expecting a comment with a story like this. I'm having issues with my ex though I still see my son on weekends, I do worry (because of how difficult shes made things for me) how dark or low she'll go because of her rancid temper. I hope I never go through what you have.
Like you I don't comment often but I just wanted to say I hope you and your daughter continue to have the peace you deserve. Respect to you 👍
@@jamesbevan4479 If she doesn't get in a way of you seeing your son i don't see how could she make you issues. Its complitely nobody to you know, just treat her like any other random girl on the street. Doesn't matter what she thinks, even if she blames you all the time, you shouldn't care about her opinion
I feel sorry for you and your daughter, I don't feel bad about your wife. She's where she belongs and you both are better off with her gone.
Way to persevere Brother🏆🏆
Hey girl, good video, these things need to be said. Your doing a great job. Thank you for your service
11:50 - 12:45 was so inspiring to me personally 🙏💪🦁
Holy crap, I did not realize how badly I needed to see this video. Here I have been, wondering how feminism can brainwash so many women into thinking that men just don't have issues and into thinking that men are the source of a lot of the problems in their lives. "How can they think that? Don't they see our issues?"
Only to realize that I've been doing the same thing against them, thanks to people like Andrew Tate or Pearl. It felt like for the first time in my life, people were actually acknowledging issues that I have first-hand experienced and had to deal with, as if to say "for the first time in my life, my issues aren't just being automatically dismissed as BS or imaginary!"
And I've allowed the fact that these people talk about issues that I've had to endure trick me into thinking that they were actually on my side and that there are actually people speaking about my types of issues.
Chloe, thank you. This video helped me to see things in a new light. That may sound cliche, but I honestly don't care; all it took was 17 minutes to watch this video to realize that I had become the equivalent to a feminist on the opposite side of the debate.
And with that, realize why I have felt a degree of anger and resentment towards women, because of people like that want to sell me this idea that women are the problem.... Without realizing that I was contributing to the problem simply because I'd felt heard for the first time.
Thank you for this, this helped more than you know.
Cant take most womens issues seriously cuz most of them strike me as bullshit
this is cap, tate has helped millions of young men to improve themselves. he joked about the mysogyny thing.
People can't take jokes anymore.
Everything he has said that is good is basically common sense. Work out, eat healthy, look after your finances, men and women are fundamentally different to each other but important to each other. Don't simp. Keep your emotions in control.
Also I find it hilarious he says Don't simp and yet he built his entire Web cam empire on scamming simps lol.
The idea behind the "manosphere" was actually a good one, it was meant to help men and boys who feel lost and/or lonely to better themselves mentally, physically and emotionally to be able to handle life, it was ment to teach them different strategies and new life skills both personal and professional but the whole idea has been corrupted by opportunistic narcissists like the tates, perl, fresh & fit, sneako and many other dark tetrad mouthpieces spreading their bullshit to young easy targets in order to take as much of their money as possible by making them do all the work to make money and then give it all away to their get rich quick schemes, useless books or curses which by the way can be found for free on UA-cam made by someone else if you do a minuscule amount of research on the topic of interest.
To be honest it was never corrupt to begin with but rather it's the very conclusion that it led from the very intentions of the movement itself. To be a control op movements as distractions from the very people that are the ones responsible.
Absolutely agreee
You, the only fans girl, is going to criticize Tate or Pearl? This is great 👍
Yup, it's hilarious.
Andrew Tate and pearl are great for men in the dating world. They are not really men rights advocates but they do help men to wake up to what they should not want.
bullshit
Pearl is a grifter
@@jakelockley4693 Grifter? Whats this?
I wouldn't say pearl is great while she has done some good for speaking on men's issues she is everything she talks against. She is not trying to be the woman she claims men want no matter how much she says she is.
She allowed someone on her platform to make fun of a man who lost one of their testicles to cancer. Those two things alone are why I stopped watching her content.
Brittany Venti did a full video on pearl which I consider well researched. I recommend and fan of hers to watch and then decide if you still wish to support from there.
As far as Tate I only care about his advice for men to better their lives, I'm not down for any of that borderline human trafficking crap he did with his brothers to trick women into coming to Romania to be cam girls. Other than that I respect the guy.
@@Wumbology378 no one is perfect we are all flawed i respect this answer though.
Your way of putting issues across is comical I feel. And your bursting with confidence as you say what you say so some ppl will find it hard to cope with your ENARGY ❤ I love it
A. Tate: Men should have at least 40 girlfriends and if he has a car less than $40000000, I'm gonna steal all of them and your mom and sister.
Me: My sister's ten, thot. *gun* *gun* *gun* *gun*
That's obviously jokes
Cringe
I love that crap if your car isn’t worth X blah blah blah…
I giggle, mine is cheaper yes… but his doesn’t spit Armour Piercing Fin Stabilised Discarding Sabot
@@lanikinlywalker4596 How's that cringe, it's funny joke
The fact that she provided slides and objective view points is why I’m still subscribed.
I have heard a bit about Pearl, watched some of her videos, and there are elements that I do agree with her. The one topic I have a problem with is her opinion on "high class men" and how it's perfectly acceptable for them to cheat on their partner
She doesn't think they should cheat nor does she accept that men cheat. She's using it as an example showing that those idiot women on her channel are perfectly willing to accept cheating if the man is tall, dark, handsome and especially RICH.
High value. Not high class. She's speaking strictly of SMV.
Not defending Pearl, but you clearly don't understand the argument.
She's not advocating cheating. She's staying fact. 80-90% of women are sharing the top 10% of men. And the vast majority of them are unaware of it and think he'll commit to them. And that explains their vastly over inflated sense of SMV.
She uses a lot of hypotheticals and it seems you've misunderstood at least one of them.
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Also, when she says it's perfectly acceptable, she means that women are perfectly fine with it. And they are!
Women would rather share a high value man than "settle" for a regular guy that's close to their level.
It's women who are deeming it to be just fine.
I don't believe you've watched much of Pearls work. If you have, then your comprehension isn't very good.
It is the hype train everyone is jopping to hate pearl I am noticing it is a sheep move
I’m not sure you’ve characterised Pearl correctly. Most of her content is not so much push men’s rights but rather pointing out the warped value structures and expectations of many women when it comes to men. In many respects Pearl is simply putting a pretty reasonable position of men and women should contribute to a relationship equally (not necessarily the same things but still a balanced relationship) and have reasonable expectations of each other.
Shes nothing but a figment of Kevin samuels
Roma having seen some of your videos that pertain to "self deletion" its actually helped me speak more seriously with my therapist about what could be root causes for myself.
Chloe you are so much a gem. I'm proud you're Canadian. We need to hear from new altruistic, passionate people. The dusty old arguments can no longer carry the words of equity between men and women. And it's great you are transparent of your own life. A great example.
I appreciate what you are doing with your UA-cam channel and the topics that are your bringing to the surface for us to be aware of. 🙏
I believe I know your position on men's rights, Chloe. I couldn't agree with you more on Andrew Tate and Pearl. I've written to you before on these topics and I am grateful we have you as an advocate!
She's literally doing the same thing.
Andrew Tate isn't, he just wanting to make men men again
@@goatgamingyt2964 yeah actually she is almost Worse cause they got she never will be, and remember chloe is in fact NOT mens right advocate looks like u can call yourself whatever u want now, plus she used to do porn
Bro I remember this woman had a link to her nudes on her vids a while ago it is just a hype train to hate Pearl recently for some reason everyone is doing it so she got to grift with every youtuber
She only mentioned Pearl in passing with no reasons. Pearly is nowhere near the same box as Tate, I quite like her.
I’m going to get machine gunned for this but …. I’ve always wondered “ if pearl knows so much about being a traditional woman and what men want and how dating should be , why’s she single , * stands in front of firing squad*
If you understood the manosphere and hypergamy in the slightest, the answer is pretty obvious.
She's rich. She's famous. She's surrounded by simps. She has WAY too much choice
Her sense of her own SMV is off the charts. No man that she would want would want her.
She is a victim of her own success.
Well for 1 she's not actively looking for a partner right now since she's focused on bringing to the forefront the toxicity of modern day feminism. Secondly you act like just coz men want traditional women that those men are actually good partners themselves. Finding the right man is still difficult. Especially since she does have other aspects like her height than men can take issue with.
@@VerboltenTroll You only cut someone's tongue out to keep others from hearing their truth.
@@mikey92362 hahaha literally the best comeback to that ever , alright youre In , welcome to the team
@@mikey92362 the fuck is SMV? I keep seeing that but I have no idea what that means.
I very much disagree with the notion that "radical feminism" is teaching men to "provide, be resilient and hide your emotions". Feminism is the main movement to teach men emotional vulnerability and escaping the gendered expectations that shackle us to those kinds of traits. This is what the manosphere teaches, not feminism.
Tate is a joke but Pearl (while not an advocate) does make points when it comes to criticism of women
Pearl stole all of her talking points from men 🙄. I'd also like to point out that Pearl is no different from the women she criticizes.
Many make great points while sprinkling in their bad points. It's how you get folks to join your cause, even if it has some really dubious ends.
I Don't dislike her but don't like her either, she is just a parrot of what Fresh and Fit says
@@inspektorsx683 and Kevin Samuels
@@economiccrisis9267 Yeah I forgot to mention KS
Watching people like Andrew Tate, JustPearlyThings, and F&F is a pretty good idea. The most important thing to remember is to compartmentalize. Understand what is misogynistic (I don't believe these people to be misogynistic). They can say some outlandish things that I don't agree with. But to claim hatred and contempt for women (misogyny) is just not accurate whatsoever. What I've mainly taken from that kind of content is to become the best and strongest version of yourself. Your examples of the people who are disabled and whatnot is assuming that it is believed by people in the manosphere that they can't be masculine or the other things they promote. They can still be all those great things, just in a different way. But the exception doesn't make the rule. I want a feminine woman. I like traditional values. I like being aware of how women operate. That is what I take from people in the manosphere. I wholeheartedly and respectfully disagree that feminism and the manosphere are one and the same. As well as claiming that these are not mens rights advocates when the main purpose of their content is to make you aware of how women operate and become the best person you can possibly be.
Thank you! I'm glad you said it. I was gonna say something similar but you already did so. And your comment needs more recognition but likely won't. Then again, most of these dudes won't like what you just preached on.
Not everyone takes away the same message. Especially if the person giving the messages knows what they are doing. What if some of the stuff Andrew Tate says is about self improvement, but some of the stuff he says is anti-women? As you said you could compartmentalise and just listen to the 'good' messages while ignoring the other but not everyone will do that, not everyone will even notice the difference between the two.
If 90% of their points align with mens rights then it is easy for them to pass themselves off as mens rights or even for someone to mistake them as mens rights but I would be willing to bet that a lot of people will end up focussed on the 10% of their points that aren't. That is how people end up in the incel and mgtow communities. They don't immediately hop online and start looking for that specific thing, they are slowly 'radicalised' over time as the algo suggestions move from genuine mens rights advocates to the crazy guys.
That is basically how any kind of radicalisation works. Start with small stuff that is generally accepted by everyone, gradually over time start changing the message but keep enough of the older message that everyone accepts around to give weight to the newer version. This can be done by a single person if they have a very specific target in mind or by multiple people or communities if they are trying to reach larger groups of people. Doesn't even have to be intentional, the algo has done a great job of connecting similar but slightly different groups together. It is basically the frog in boiling water metaphor. Most people won't notice gradual changes or differences is spread out over a long enough time.
If you want a perfect example start looking at a bunch of weightlifting/bodybuilding motivation videos here. And pay attention to them. A lot of them, maybe the majority, are simply about self improvement, but you will find quite a few with very blatant anti-gay, anti-women, anti-trans messages too. A lot of the embrace masculinity ones fall into the latter camp. The thing is, if all you care about is the self-improvement aspect, that will be the message you take away and you will see no problem. But if you have any kind of inkling of anti-gay, anti-women, anti-trans thoughts etc.. that is what you will end up focussing on. And those videos are just similar enough to the purely self-improvement ones that they can pass themselves off as that to most people, but at the same time they do a good job of funnelling the people open to their messages into the more extreme communities.
@@Subjagator You need punctuation lol. But, firstly, I'll start by saying they're not misogynistic, to begin with. They also don't try to pass off as Men Rights Advocates. The definition of misogyny is hatred and contempt for women. Also, you make it seem like they have a sinister agenda at play when you say "especially if the person giving the messages knows what they are doing." What exactly are they doing in your eyes? What we see is teaching to embrace masculinity, become the best version of yourself, take responsibility, take accountability, support the nuclear family, be cautious with the women you choose to court or be with in general, and more. The things said are construed as anti-woman because it is a harsh truth they don't want to accept. The 10% is the exception. There are exceptions for everything in life, but it will never make the rule. Ever. These podcasts speak in generalities BECAUSE there are exceptions, and nobody is going to, nor should they, find and address every single exception there is. So what should be done about this 10%? Ban these podcasts altogether as they have already been doing? They try to claim hatred and misogyny to justify these bannings when it is simply because they PERSONALLY don't agree with what is being said. You get banned for spreading the truth now. That has been made abundantly clear. An example of something being labeled as misogynistic when it is really just an opinion is cheating. They believe it is alright for a man to sleep with other women if he is rich and of high status. I don't agree with that and prefer loyalty. But I do recognize there are differences when it comes to a man versus a woman cheating. Your comparison of what they do and weightlifting/bodybuilding is flawed. Although you are correct that there are some channels with blatant hate, those, once again, are the exception. I would also LOVE to know what channel is being blatantly hateful and isn't banned yet because if it were ACTUAL misogyny and anti-trans and every other label you can think of, they would be banned. You say to watch and pay attention to those videos. I have, and for a very very long time, still do, and have never come across any of these channels you claim to have this blatant hate. It seems like you yourself haven't watched and paid attention to these bodybuilding/workout videos/channels. I would encourage you to do the same for these podcasts and find actual misogyny and hatred in their content. Spoiler alert, you won't find it. A lot of the things Myron Gaines speaks about, as well as Andrew Tate have had these things instilled in them by their mothers. Anybody with an "inkling" of anti-gay, anti-trans, or anti-women isn't interested in their content because they aren't all those false labels. So they therefore cannot be funneled into these imaginary, hateful channels.
Show me the objective hate. Not what you want to deem hateful.
@Brenden
I could give specific links to videos and even point out specific comments that show they are anti-gay or anti-trans etc.. but should I even bother? You can always pull the old exceptions don't prove the rule thing like you just did and dismiss anything I say but that argument doesn't work when I am talking specifically about the exceptions and how people like Tate etc.. can influence those people. But just on the off chance you are genuinely interested here is an example of the channels that I would consider as masquerading as a fitness or self improvement channel but is in reality primarily concerned with messages of anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-women etc...
The Be Strong channel. 6 videos, 4 of them have trans flags/colours/parades in their thumbnail for whatever reason. (I am sure it is just coincidence and doesn't in any way say anything about the channel creators views on gay or trans people. /sarcasm)
www.youtube.com/@Strong353/videos
Their most watched video (ua-cam.com/video/PPhW25NLQM0/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BeStrong) starts off very similar to other fitness motivation videos. A bunch of fat people doing stupid things etc.. which I can at least somewhat understand because it is related to fitness and can be a motivator for many people to work out if they don't want to end up being fat. Not particularly nice but I can see how it could motivate people. But there are (subtle?) differences in this video compared to other fitness motivation videos, they start around the 40 second mark. Out of nowhere, a couple of girls dancing followed quickly by some young woman streaming. I have no idea how those are related to the point of the video really, everything up until that point had been about obesity which in a fitness or self-improvement related video would make sense to include the fat people but random women doing random streaming or dancing or something on the internet? I can't really figure out why they are put in the same 'reject' group as the fat people being made fun of. The main video doesn't really touch on anything trans related either that I can see so I have no idea why the thumbnail has a bunch of trans flags being waved around, the most likely reason that I can think of is the creator was trying to get a particular kind of person to click on the video. Once it is done showing all the groups to 'reject' it continues like most fitness motivation videos to show a bunch of guys(no women that I could see) lifting weights and doing 'masculine' stuff. And of course, just to hammer the message home, he even puts a little message right at the end of his video to say that he isn't against women. Because nothing screams I am not against women like having to preemptiveely say how much you aren't against women. I can absolutely see how many people could watch that video and see it as only a motivational video and nothing else, but you have to be able to see how others could easily take away a different message.
Let's have a look at another one of their videos (ua-cam.com/video/XWcaD9NXHjU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BeStrong)
Again, this one starts off with a fat woman doing fat person stuff which given that the end of the video once again focusses on lifting weights and fitness stuff then the start of the video kind of makes sense but this one quickly moves away from the obesity vs fitness message that normal fitness motivation videos have. At less than 20 seconds in it swaps to a young girl doing the whole internet thing and then quickly swapping to what looks like some kind of pride parade followed by a string of scenes of other people and activities that I assume the creator disagrees with and who thinks should be 'rejected' by others. Later in the same video, around the 1:15 mark it shows a guy climbing into bed with another guy and they cuddle and kiss. Again, I just can't really fathom what is wrong with those things in any way and why they are put into the same 'reject' category of being overweight in a fitness motivation video.
But hey, maybe I am completely off base here and that channel which is making videos about 'rejecting' homosexuality and young girls isn't anti-gay or anti-women. A quick read of the comments under those videos though leads me to think otherwise. Let's have a look at some of them.
"Its funny how people think this is a passing trend. It's been almost a year and these videos still appeal to hundreds of thousands. It raises the awareness of the young people who use this platform, and most importantly, it creates a collective consciousness against the same enemies." - What enemies is he talking about here? Is obesity the enemy perhaps? Or is it the others shown in the videos, the gays, the trans, the women???
To which the creator himself responded, "We must not be silent in front of this infection that they are trying to spread in our society and our children through all social media sites and their celebrations in public places and on the Netflix platform." - It is an infection now, and who is this nebulous 'they' that the creator is referring to. Again, maybe I am off base completely here but to me that sounds like he is talking pretty clearly about the LGBT community(celebrations in public places in a video where a non-insignificant part of it appears to be at some kind of pride rally) and some 'agenda' that the creator thinks they are pursuing through social media.
Another great comment. "Don’t let a women tell you what you can and can’t do, don’t let anyone tell you, keep up the grind kings and believe in gods plan for you because he loves us, and guess who he made first: MEN" - On the surface this could have been a great comment. The whole don't let anyone tell you what you can and can't do is a solid message. A shame he had to specifically call out the women who do it and then end by saying God created men first. I guess some people will read that and only see the positive while others will read that and see that the person who wrote that thinks men as superior to women. What do you think about that? Does this commenter have any particular feelings about women would you say? A coincidence that he called them out specifically and needed to clarify that god made them after men, perhaps?
If you take the time to read comments under those kinds of videos you will find all manner of them. People talking about holding the line against the enemy, fighting against the enemy etc.. and the message I can see in all of them is absolutely hate against some group, be it women, LGBT and I have even seen some that got very 'Christian' and were trying to entice some crusades against non-Christians.
But honestly I think you missed my entire point, which kind of proves another point actually; that the message you got from my comment wasn't the message I was trying to convey and might be different to the message someone else could get reading it. Perhaps you read my comment through your initial reaction to it and it coloured your view of it. Anyway, my original point wasn't about the specific example of Tate. I used this particular case as an example since it was the topic of the video. My point was that it is important for people to call out differences if they notice them, especially if the differences are small or subtle because that is exactly when many people won't notice them, and that people should call out the differences regardless of what the issue is. It wasn't a personal attack against you for liking Andrew Tate or anything. Not everyone is going to notice everything about everything all the time. I am sure there are tons of things that I don't know about Tate that you noticed and tons of things that you don't know about him that I noticed. It is only by genuine discussion about those differences that we can see all the details and get a more complete view of the topic rather than getting funneled into some kind of tunnel vision or some kind of echo chamber where we only get or accept feedback that we agree with in the first place.
Have a nice day.
@Subjagator One channel, six videos to go off of? That's all you have? You said watch bodybuilding and weightlifting channels, and watch closely. And I already have been for years. It's obvious you haven't and are chirping the narrative the left wants regurgitated. And it's not even a bodybuilding/ weightlifting channel. So you're not even supporting your own argument. It is clear you don't actually understand what misogyny really is. You see hate where there is none. You search for the tiny exceptions in society so you can claim victim and oppression to avoid responsibility and accountability. Time to get based bud. I still need actual examples of the hatred you claim to see everywhere. Where are the people who watch these podcasts being "funneled" to, as you put it? You tried and failed to provide a good argument.
If there is one thing that I’ve learned in my 48 years on this Earth, it’s that just about everyone will look for a convenient other that they can blame and destroy rather than look at themselves in a mirror, say “This problem might not be my fault but it is my responsibility to fix.”, and then get to work.
I’ve done it. You’ve done it. We’ve all done it. But we can individually stop doing it and help others stop doing it. That’s how we start to fix things.
OMG This is why I love you! I don't trust a damn thing either of these people have to say.
As for your stand I've 100% have heard you talk about men's mental health, sexual assault/abuse, marital issues, probably half of that list honestly! I think you're a great men's rights activist. I mean even this video proves how much you want to genuinely help by letting people know "hey be careful who you listen to" and even taking "accountability" by giving all of us the floor to let you know you're doing amazing!
I love that you bring up the "you don't have to be strong to be masculine topic" because no matter what anyone says my FIL will NOT stop working, he had back surgery and can barely walk somedays and still get up works 8 hours a day goes how does his yard work and works in his garden for another 3 4 hours after work, like bro take a break seriously, you don't have to sacrifice your body anymore, relax and heal.
Grow a pair
That's a such a garbage take on this situation.
Pearl and Tate talk about exactly what Jordan Peterson says about taking responsibility on your life and not be overly emotional.
Strength comes in many different forms, the greatest being self reliance.
I believe Andrew Tate is purely a positive force for mens rights, he has saved my life.
At this point in my life, I've grown to accept all the negatives that come with being a man. Not much positive come from being a man at all.
I think you are a smart well educated person willing to put your self on the front line on a movement for the people. I like you because you are for equal rights across the board and that's what I've always stood for. We can't live in a world where people are trying to get better rights no matter who they are. I watched my Dad in a wheel chair fight just to be able to get around in the world. Thank you for taking a stand. Thank you for being who you truly are. One love. I hate Tate. He doesn't stand for me as a person as a human or and even as a man.
To be totally serious for a minute, thank you for doing what you do. We really need more women tackling this problem, because as you know, nobody listens to men. We have become so marginalized and so disempowered, we don't even have the ability to fight for our own rights anymore. We needs women to fight other women and the destructive outliers in the male community as well, if we are ever going to have any kind of positive change. I will admit that I have to take your channel in small doses sometimes because it can get a bit intense, but that's just because you are very passionate about the subject matter, which is a good thing. I've struggled my whole life with these issues but it's only in the last few months that I felt like there was really an opportunity to explore these issues and in some way, it makes me feel like other people are seeing all the problems I've seen and lived for 40 years, but at the same time, it almost feels more insurmountable and problematic than ever before. As you're pointing out, some supposed advocates of men's rights are really just reality tv show hosts and scam artists looking to make money selling drama, and it hurts the movement even more.
it just seems like an incurable issue, but some content creators and activists give me some bit of hope that maybe things could be better decades from now. I struggle though thinking about the world my 2 young nephews are going to have to grow up in the lost generations of men. I may not be able to change the world, but I will always try my best to be a good example for them of what a modern man should be, what it means to be a man in these times, and just how to be a good person.
Meanwhile, you keep up the good work!
Lol, stop simping for a single mom with an OF page
Once again, Chloe hits the nail right on the head. Such wisdom! With her knowledge, Open minded perspective, finger on the pulse and strong platform to deliver her message it’s no wonder why she is one of the most influential people within this community.
You are making a lot of sense
I watch all of you.
All give opinions that add to 'food for thought'
I like more more. You have a better grasp of what is important to ME.
Pearl comes at it from a different direction. Tate so far, is catching because he can be loud.
Your arguments are stellar. Thank you for bringing the conversation to the table and articulating your point so well.
Honestly they are both needed, one side pushes on the legal side and the other pushes for bettering yourself personally
That’s like saying you take fathering advice from a child absuer… illogical. sure what he says might be spot on, but you really are going to wanna get it from him? Or would you rather, idk, goto a licensed therapist ?
I remember Pearl specifically said she was for entertainment and not here for all the other stuff.
Never liked Adrew Tate, but can see "some" positives his videos have for men. But i think you expalined it better then the way i used to. Its his following that has formulated most of the positive outcomes of his content. But yes his talking points are eerily similar to crazy femininists...just for the opposite things. I watch a variety of content creaters on different/opposing topics and sadly a creater that i highly respect basically disregarded the mens rights movement because of people like andrew tate.
"Some"?.. More like he most positive videos
But how can you not like him if you don't him much
Exactly
I wish there was more women like you
Pearly said she is proud to be called "the female Andrew Tate" ... she is nuts
Tate started his success in taking advantage of lonely men, Tate admits this.
How
@@5Akecheta4 he sucked young simps money by pretending to be camgirl
How
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It makes me laugh that Tate claims to be "Top G" or whatever, and then when people say mean things to him on Twitter, he hides their tweets so his poor lil feelings don't get hurt 😂
i think tates tweets hurt your feelings... lol
@@SoulShapesHitbox LMAO, hey everyone! This dude has no reading comprehension 😂 no wonder he's a Tate fan
@SlenderSoviet if that's what you tend to believe 😌
@@slendersoviet9354 I mean, he's hurting both of yalls feelings, not sure what yall want them to say. Lol
@@litetix laughing cause any tate fan is an absolute loser and it's hilarious 💀
I like to think of Pearl as the Redpill equivalent of a cage stage Calvinist. She says a lot of stuff, most if not all of which is talking points gleaned from other Redpill zealots, but when it comes to actually helping men improve themselves, her value kind of dries up. I'm sick of channels that don't have actionable advice for men beyond "Go your own way" or "Don't get married" or "Get your passport. It's the only way" or "Become super successful and then you can have all the women you want." Nah bro, I'm looking for a lifelong commitment that I don't have to move to the other side of the world to find.
I mean there aren't really any other options, you can't force women to change and if you get into a relationship your putting yourself at risk, unless there is a major cultural shift or the laws change these are your best options, anything else would be a shot in the dark my friend.
@@ragingnoob3603 or, and this is a revolutionary idea, be sure there is mutual commitment before deciding on marriage. There are still tons of good, godly women in this nation. And if you take the proper time to assess their values and ensure a genuine commitment before marriage, they will be with you forever.
@@mbrsart people change as they get older, there isn't any garentee that someone will stay loyal to you long term. They can SAY they will but that's just hopeful thinking that they'll keep there word. No one's stopping you from getting married. There just letting you know the risk your taking if you do.
Roma, You are an amazing woman. Thank you for helping me build myself back up from a very dark place. Keep on with the honest and eye opening content. You are making a difference in our lives and are valued. Thank you for what you do. I appreciate it.
Good luck. Trust me. Keep pushing for the light. It’s at the end of the tunnel. Cause honestly that’s how it felt for me.
I'm mgtow. I'm lumped in with misogyny.... damn.
No you are mstow
@@vagrant-techart8278 tf is that?
@@syriusblacc9746 I had to look it up it means “men sent their own way”. After reading the description basically it is saying that men are the reason women file for divorce and it is mens fault that the woman wanted a divorce.
@@vagrant-techart8278 Oh, so you are a feminist
@@johnm.4141 no men can't go their own way it is a cope they are always sent. It is important to operate in reality guys.
ANDREW HONESTLY DOES CARE HE TELLS PEOPLE TO WORK OUT AND BE GOOD TO FAMILY. PLUS HIS BOND WITH HIS BROTHER. ANDREW IS A GOOD DUDE. ANDREW IS AGAINST ALL DRUGS AND TALKS ABOUT MEN’S MENTAL HEALTH
When you realize that logically, Tate is right at least 90% of the time ⚡
He’s really not tho lol. He speaks on topics that he has zero actual academic knowledge or experience with, like mental illness. Also he’s made some comments on sexual abuse in the past that would be considered really fucked up by 99% of the population. He’s actually quite detrimental to men’s rights because he paints his advocates as people that are going to absolve whatever he does or says no matter how untrue or irresponsible it is. That’s not what men want and there’s a very good reason the vast majority of people try distancing themselves from his platform.
@@carloszestyboy2901 You don’t have to have experience with something to know information about the topic. Look at Roma’s topics she talks about. Not all these topics are something she has experienced.
Tate is perfect for someone who is naive to the modern men’s struggle but level headed enough to understand that not everything the “top g” says is gospel. I wish I had access to someone like Tate at 18-22 years old I may have pushed myself that much harder to make myself more valuable in the work place, save that much more money and focus on what’s ahead, get into the gym and work on me, or be that more selective with my women. My Father is great but he just didn’t get it because he grew up in such a different environment and culture he didn’t understand enough to see what was happening especially since it was the advent of social media. Stuff changed so much between 2010 and 2017 finding a job was a nightmare, going places to pick up girls changed it all went to online dating, people cataloging everything on their phones including airing out personal relationship laundry, people didn’t want to text anymore they wanted to DM on Facebook or Twitter, Everything became hyper political. Such a volatile time for a young adult to figure everything out.
Your father was probably a better role model, but yeah everything changed from their generation to the next so the whole "go to college" thing worked for them but isn't great anymore unless you want to work for some woke corporation forever.
Tate is great on motivating people and pushing for more but his values are pretty terrible and he basically ends up pushing an empty lifestyle. People will find happiness through a family, Christianity, success and a spouse they can trust. Buying new cars forever and having a bunch of flings with empty girls will never leave that void unfilled over the long-term.
I was thinking the other day “ just pearly things “ is what Roma was on her way to being , except she’s a fraud , a grifter who stole from Roma ( female MRA ) , fresh & fit ( set up , setting and location choice ) Kevin Samuels , it’s complicated Andrew tate ( talking points ) she has no original ideas but to steal and win
I know Pearl's view on some of those topics. She has talked about mens rights and on suicide, nd fathers right. No, i have not heard you talk about most those topics.
There needs to be more women like you❤❤😊
I used to listen to Pearl but as an aging, disabled man, I came to realize her content is not created for me.
Imagine being a grown man and thinking Tate's a very good person 😂😂😂😂
Thank you finally someone says it they are not good people
Top g for president
What bout him ain't good
@@grimreaper1257 Like?
Exactly, nothing
More and more men are seeing the grift.. in society, in dating and even those who claim to be on our side. Hopefully we can speed this process up. Keep being you, Chloe! We know the real ones!
So what, Tate isn't on ours?
No, the problem is that you only watch a few people on here, then get different perspectives. Roma herself can also be a grifter.
The manosphere have save more lives than the MRA, she deliberately didn't add F&F because she know that F&f talk about all the point the MRA talk about, but instead of crying about it to Daddy government who don't give a fk, the teach men to adapt and see the red flag, i will redpill and MGTOW have done more in this delusional society than the MRM.
we all know the inconfortable truth about how to solve the problems " economy collapse, wars and destruction of infrastructure" are the only things that will reset the world
And nobody wants that to happen, only crazy people will want that.
So let stop the BS please
@rey author I have been watching all of the channels off and on for the last 2 years. Stop listening to Tate and Pearly and listen to those who will be more positive for you. Not just those who are good at being mad at who you are mad at.
@@billylocke9633 that... is actually a really good point. The fact that we have a 'common enemy' so to speak, probably makes it easier to see only the good and ignore the bad.