MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement | Cassie Jaye | TEDxMarin
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2017
- By facing long-held assumptions, one woman reevaluates her own gender biases. Documentary Filmmaker, The Red Pill
Cassie Jaye founded Jaye Bird Productions in 2008, which has since produced a collection of documentary films that have been praised for being thought-provoking, entertaining and respectful in representing multiple competing views within each film. Jaye is known for tackling complex and often controversial subject matters. Her latest film is The Red Pill. Prior to “The Red Pill”, Jaye’s most notable films were the award winning feature documentaries “Daddy I Do” (which examined the Abstinence-Only Movement versus Comprehensive Sex Education) and “The Right to Love: An American Family” (which followed one family’s activism fighting for same-sex marriage rights in California). Both films showed that Jaye’s interview style is to allow people to share their views honestly, openly and candidly while allowing audiences to come to their own conclusions.
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Some men are good, some women are good.
Some men are bad, some women are bad.
Do you think love can bloom, even on a battlefield?
Ayberk Tiras What you said was just an unnecessarily convoluted way of saying what the original poster said...
Nah fish are all bad even tuna! I hate cod and tuna so yeah
+Solid Snake
IF SHE BREATHES SHE A THOT
ALL WAHMEN ARE QUEEN
Solid Snake Humans are just vehicles for DNA replication. Morality is irrelevant.
this woman should have been Captain Marvel
Why, what's wrong with brie larseon
@@alexandert696 she's a narcissistic misandrist sjw that hates straight white men and thinks she's always right....
She a biatch
They should have left her in *Room*
@@alexandert696 you.
"Humanizing your enemy leads to your community dehumanizing you" Brilliant!!!
She's Smarter and more human than you and people like you actually.
Calling them your enemy isnt really humanizing...
@jakeplumber1373
What was meant by that phrase is that if you seek to empathize and see the common shared positive traits of those who your community view as an enemy, than your community may turn on, and make an enemy out if you.
Sometimes the words used aren't perfect, but if we listen carefully we can determine what the speaker is trying to communicate.
@@jakeplumber1373 How slow are you?
Norah Vincent tried what this lady tried but didn't make it through.
“I wasn’t actually listening” the root of so many of our problems today. Opposing sides don’t hear each other, if they did they may cease to oppose and work together. We’ve all had lessons in humility, thanks for having the courage to share.
Much of the blame falls on our feminized "education" system.
How do you reach common ground with the authoritarian left?
I think we've heard way too much from feminists, don't even try to equalize it.
No it’s just mainly liberals who refuse to hear truth or other opinions. They can’t have a conversation because the moments truth gets involved their entire ideology collapses. They can’t handle truth and no amount of facts or evidence will change their mind because they are not open to that. Obviously there are def far right people like that but it’s generally damn near all modern liberals. I’ve seen it first hand and hear about it and see it everyday. They don’t want to talk and they hate anybody who doesn’t agree with them
She gets it, equality should not be about punishing the other side, it should be about lifting each other up.
Yes.
Literally men have been supporting and protecting women since ages . While women can't do anything for men .
Scott Steiner that’s just straight up ignorance bro, cmon
@@scottsteiner359 Well, she's the prime example that they can and they do.
@@plannetworld89 nah , I don't want women , I just want to focus on my career and earn lots of money . Maybe I'll also do some social work . But I'll never restrict myself to one woman . I'm that smartass .
When someone admits they’re wrong or are able to see the other persons point , they earn my full respect
Same here
Agreed. People today are either too self righteous and won’t admit when they’re wrong even if they know it because they’re too proud, or they’re scared to admit they’re wrong because they’re taught that when someone is wrong they’re bad because being wrong is bad. There is nothing bad about being wrong, no one is perfect and we all make mistakes and are wrong about something. We need to spread that message more because it shouldn’t be such a rare thing to see people openly accept and admit they were wrong.
I will always respect people who admit when they’re wrong or are able to see the other person’s point, i just wish it was more common
Ya, she wasted 10 years of her life with idiotic viewpoints.
Yeah but it still took her being around people who are dealing with issues and then she needed those issues re-enforced after years of research. Shorty just proves we will never understand eachother, much respect, but she really shows how long it takes for someone to use common sense.
She wasn't wrong, only misguided and brainwashed by leftist ideology
For me, this woman has instantly revived some of the little faith I had in society.
Until you watch what's happening in Gaza and you realize those of us who agree with her are doomed because we have no power in the world.
She’s beautiful, inside and out. Very rare you see someone be as selfless and honest as her. She could’ve stuck to the mainstream, but she cared more about doing good
" Losing Faith in Humanity, one person at a time.." 🤔..but there are still some ( not many) good ,genuine honest people that care......
The trouble is that all you men think that crazy screaming redhead in the movie represents us all.
@@angiepatterson6338 we do? Did you just womansplain all men?
I was falsely accused by a woman for turning her down, and this made me cry.
Stay strong brother were in this together
number one way to get that to happen in my experience is to reject them, speaking from experience.
@R3GARnator Accused of what?
what do you mean of what? XD its obvious lmao @@lisahinton9682
“The only thing that matters is me because I met one bad woman even though the majority of abusers are male”
When you dehumanize your enemy you feel more justified in attacking them.
This is what I think about reading on the Bolsheviks and Stalin's Russia, or when looking at the secret pictures taken in the Lodz Ghetto. Everything was done to remove people's humanity AND THEIR HOPE a little bit at a time so it appears less shocking to finally destroy them, and in fact they hardly resist. How else possible except by psychology.
Different regimes, same intentional and gradual systemic dehumanization as today's (Way Too) Far Left. They want to wear you down so you give up and play along.
Did you know right after Kristallnacht, some Jewish people immediately left notes and committed suicide? They were literally killed by the IDEA of their whole society they were part of for generations now rejecting them. *Political triumph of the Left and Right is really the murder of hope and the human spirit.*
Damn thats a banger quote!
Absolutely
It’s what the Nazis did to the Jews
Kid you not this is the emeny
“It’s not a contest, but I kept making it into one”
Perfectly sums up the issues at hand
Never thought id agree with you. But here i do.
@@jaked924 Lol You have no idea how mutual that comment is...
Either I'm too naive and just got whooshed or these guys just believed this is the actual Bill Nye. ...or even, I'm BIG TIME naive because this is the actual BN haha
Alexandre Piccini it’s a wooosh
Almost thought it was
the real Bill Nye
As a male, falsely accused, I can't thank you enough. Abuse definitely goes both ways. 💯
(Autocorrect changed "falsely" to "fairly", and "abuse" to "about".) 😔
I hear bro.
Isn't it amazing how even Autocorrect is biased toward you? wow.
Stop using auto correct. It's biased in and of itself. Proof is above
Autocorrect changed "falsely" to "fairly"
Autocorrect really picked the worst possible word to change it too 😂 Sorry, your comment's serious, I shouldn't be laughing. Hope things are going well for you
Just wow, on auto correct.
The part about “wrongly accused” so rung a bell for me. Not often, but several times during my career. I saw how men and women claiming domestic violence victimhood were significantly treated differently. I will share the one that sticks in my crawl, the most, even after all these decades.
As a Police Officer ( now retired) in a metro of nearly 200K pop at the time, I took & investigated a complaint of Domestic Violence-Related Kidnapping. The complainant gave a verbal and written account of how her ex-husband used the presence of wanting to work some things out, held her hostage and in fear of her life for hours until they happened to stop for a traffic signal near her mom’s house. There she claimed to have jumped out of the car and fled to Mom’s house. She gave vague times and locations (citing mental trauma) but an intimately detailed description of their clothes and car.
Because of how our State & local laws & policies were written I was either to locate the subject & interview him (as in -functionally- locate & communicate with him within about half an hour), or put out an Apprehension Request on him (essentially jail him until either I or a Judge spoke to him). Even if I communicated with him, if there was even a reasonable possibility that the complainant was correct, he would still be jailed.
I actually found him at home about 10 minutes after I finished speaking with the complainant. He was cooperative and came with me to the department for questioning.
His account paralleled that of the complainant with significant differences. He gave very specific location and time information of their whereabouts for the evening and question. He stated that she had wanted to celebrate his birthday by going out that evening. He further said the night ended nicely with her, giving him a kiss goodbye in the car, getting out, and then actually running down the block as he left… To give him one more good night kiss through his driver window.
I knew the locations given, and all were known to have excellent video security elements. Within 48 hours, I had obtained five, good quality to excellent quality video accounts of what occurred that evening evening - including (miraculously) an owner voluntarily submitted ring, doorbell, video of the , Chase and second good night kiss.
In contacting the complainant back for a secondary interview, she double downed on her account, claiming that he had actually choked her in the car just before she jumped out and escaped.
When I completed the investigation, I referred the complainant to the district attorneys office For two counts of filing a false police report, and one count of obstructing an officer (because the video evidence completely exonerated the subject, and completely contradicted the complaints story).
The end result was the district attorney declined to press charges. In a quote off the record” conversation some months later, a secretary told me that the talk in the office was that it would not look good at election time to have charged a female, domestic violence complainant such charges.
Further, I received a verbal and written “tongue, lashing“ from one of our detective captains regarding my investigation. I was specifically told that, instead of wasting my time, trying to prove the complaints guilt, I should have concentrated my efforts on, proving the subject was guilty. my options going forward were to either drop the batter, or risk being suspended for insubordination (putting both my and my family’s livelihood at risk).
Yes - there is a significant discrepancy when it comes to how persons on this topic are treated in the legal and judiciary system: and it is not even handed.
Jesus all of that is simply frightening. I had an ex once who even when she was 100% wrong would never admit to it and was cold until I'd apologize or stop being upset myself. I'm so glad all that ended. Be strong and wise men! Thank u for sharing the story sir 🙏
That's just unbelievable and unfair. And we call this justice?
wow that justice system sucks.
Yep as someone who has been falsely accused I am due to appear in court on Friday for the announcement of the trial date.
This system is terrible and I have to admit, if I see a woman in trouble or in need of help or anything, I just keep on walking now.
My very biological need to protect women has been stripped out of me and I'm not the only one.
The Party dictates that a woman absolutely cannot be seen being charged for a false accusation, because that would look bad come election time.
This is why you DON'T vote blue, no matter who.
Did I just witness logic on the internet? Quick somebody pinch me
Only illogical thing he probably witnessed was you ;)
better ill like your comment
*pinchy pinchy*
And from a TedxTalk no less
That's illegal. Everyone here shall be purged.
...Even me. I ... witnessed logic on the internet too. We'll start with me first.
“We have to stop expecting to be offended” are the wisest words I’ve heard in a long time.
Amen brother
Sorry I hadn't seen this sooner. We waste so much valuable time "wanting to be offended" 😞
There are so many people who are absolutely addicted to victimization (always seeing themselves victims of injustice) that they want to be offended. There are tons of feminists who are addicted to this selfish/self centered mindset.
Zack, I never thought of it as an "addiction," but truth has been spoken.
@@morokeiboethia6749 I think playing the victim is the easy out .
"Empowered Voices: A Journey Through Feminism" Great one. Pageturn Junction where to find. Loved it!!!
I loved this one. Kept me Going!!!
Made me think alot about rights for women. Great help!!
Thanks for this book for existing!!!
You don't have to blow out someone elses candle to make yours shine brighter... in fact it only makes it darker... this is the point you are making... thank you... my son was the one abused in his marriage and was actually dead before his time because of the woman... she was always given deference... and my son was ignored...
My condolences!
Prayers for justice
This is seriously heart breaking, I'm so sorry...
May lord help you…
Three years of hindsight later, Cassie Jaye paid dearly for her blasphemy against Modern Feminism. She was bullied, threatened and deplatformed by guess who? Hint, it wasn't men.
Oy vey, shut it down!
I'm sorry to hear that, Cassie Jaye sounds like a wise person that I and many others could learn a lot from.
not blasphemy if it's true
VALID
@@djfreem6881 truth is blasphemy to those sjw
The fact she actually said "i wasnt actually listening to them. I was loooking for flaws" made me respect her. Not only she renewed her world view. But she also became honest of what she felt at that moment and was not ashamed of admitting her mistake.
sadly that is modern day society we look at people flaws we judge people by there race,ethnicity,likes,dislkes,opinions,gender instead of truly judging people by there character
As one who has sinned, its best for us to help others who are lost in the sin we are now free from. It's the right thing to do.
The confirmation bias... is the worst of all
@@brickplank_films5189 quite ironic
@@brickplank_films5189 I am 2 years old and will never become a member Pen
As a woman I scrolled past this only later to it again. It is a TED Talk so I begrudgingly listened… Glad I did! Kudos to you ma’am
As a woman, do you think it'll get any better? I'm 37 and haven't started a family yet. I wouldn't know where to begin if I had a son today. I feel like I could prepare him very well, but I also feel like I'd constantly be the voice of doom and that's how he'd remember me.
I feel like raising a daughter in this era might be a tad easier. Idk.
I feel like if I just taught her all the things I wish my mother knew and all the things people were surprised she knew, she'd be more than ok.
Idk. I helped raise a little cousin and she's still mad at me today for how I did her hair 20 years ago. 😂😂
As a man thank you for listening
As a man, thank you for for listening.
First-hand experience has shown me many women have deaf ears for anything but their own problems. So thank u for listening to this TedTalk
@@richardspillers6282this feminism bs is only gonna get worse and raising a daughter in this generation is a nightmare. You can do everything right just for her to be brainwashed by radical liberal feminists propaganda and she’ll grow up to be a hooah or make an onlyfans and hate men. And no offense but if you 37 and don’t have a husband it’s highly unlikely your gonna find the right person and have a family or even get pregnant but best of luck I hope it all works out for you
"We have to stop expecting to be offended, and we have to start truly, openly, and sincerely listening." This right there, would solve most hate crimes, Racism, sexism, classism, and most issues us as humans have with each other!
As cool as this is, the whole talk boils down to “I decided to actually listen to someone with a different opinion and changed my views based on new information”. It’s sad that this has to be glorified when it should just be the norm.
true story
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Man the internet is a small place, eh?
Even so it is actually quite a challenge to let go of your ego the way she did.
"We have to stop expecting to be offended" - really hit the nail in the head with that line.
Yes, but we are going on the wrong direction. So many people are trying to look for sexism or racism everywhere
it odd to me how I've never looks at it that way, its kind of amazing how much that sentence changed my view in an instance
@@billsimms2511 That's exactly the point, people are looking for war and conflict where there is none, The Left wants a fight, you can see it in every interaction with them.
@@JMObyx Whats the left? I hear it everywhere and it just seems like political slang that everyone seems to get.
@@CMT_Crabbles it honestly goes both ways the left will also say oh he’s right it doesn’t matter but both sides have become extreme
its been 6 year since the video is posted , still no change is there in society
It's disheartening to hear that there hasn't been much progress in addressing misandry despite the passage of time. It's important to continue raising awareness and advocating for equality and respect for all genders. Change can be slow, but every effort counts towards creating a more inclusive and understanding society. Keep speaking out against discrimination and promoting empathy and understanding.
It’s actually worse with woke movement
@@BlatFlatteryway way worse now these feminists are fighting to give men in dresses better rights and privelage than actual woman….
Maybe because this woman is literally just a misogynist and a pick me, and everything she’s saying makes zero sense and is literally just made to distrust you from the fact that men are oppressing women. Nothing she said is true. She knows it isn’t. Women are still oppressed and men are the oppressors
Humans being silly humans, instead of sides working out a complex issue together people prefer to radicalize and declare enemies.
Feminists seem to like dictionary definitions, so here is one:
Empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
I always hear that women are more empathetic than men, but I'm not so certain with feminists.
It took time, but this woman finally found empathy. We need more like her.
Woman being more empathic is a toxic stereotype. It denies that men feel emotions like woman do, and we have inflicted this on ourselves. Boys don't cry.
Modern feminists want men to suffer all the same injustices they have. You'd think they would've developed empathy.
@@XEN-ZOMBIEBoys are taught to not cry for a reason! We're Not women
@@Brian--0311 We have tear ducts dill weed.
We are humans, genitalia is irrelevant. We feel, if I stab you, it will hurt.
If I kill your family you never find me, you will be devastated. Upset, Distraught, Mortified traumatized.
Pretending you do not feel emotion is not strong, it is weak. A "Real" man does not fear emotion, he feels it and deals with it. Like a man.
@@XEN-ZOMBIE You wouldn't make it within 200 yards of my Family. Not to mention... every one of them would take you First!
We Live in a "Creep Free Zone"
Later Creep
"I was told they were my enemy"
Literally every war ever
(Agonized screaming)
@Just one more thing were you told to?
You are always the hero in your point of view
Realtalk
As a 1920's kid I can relate to this
This is peak character development
Pp... Erwin... P p...
@@SomeCowguy pp
@@ImnHazzz p p
@@ImnHazzz i just used one of my google accounts to make this account
@@erenyeager8845 ah i see
I recently just got out of a financial struggle that had me homeless for almost 4 months. and I wont ever forget the day I traveled 2 hours by bus to get to the only homeless shelter that sheltered men in the whole city and this lady steped out of the company car and told about 40 men we need to get to stepping cause their are only rooms available for women.and that's the day it realized society does not care at all about a man well being
Yeah they don't and feminism is a cancer, it's destroying everything.
Damn, I hope you never have to go through that again. At least now you can definitely take a stand for men's rights if you want now that you have a personal example. Whenever I (and probably the majority of other people) try to mention stuff about how men are generally treated worse than women when it comes to support, I can never come up with anything concrete even though I know perfectly well that there are situations like yours where women get far superior treatment. When I talk about how men have specific problems too I get explanations about how women suffer from the same problems among other things (and stuff about how some women get it even worse), when the point I'm trying to make is that EVERYONE can need support.
Apparently when a group of women need support they can get support without any given to men, but when men need support you can't be sexist and have to let women take some too, regardless of how much is already available for women and how much men need it.
Sorry if the rant isn't appreciated, I just hope you're alright and never have to face femminism against men to your own detriment ever again.
Once in a while, the toxic movements that define our public discourse produce a genuine authentic and honest advocate. And such people, when they bring their honesty to the confrontation with the corruption they represent, they discover they can no longer support the movement that once owned their allegiance. Cassie Jaye is one of these.
Excellent content.
From a father who escaped an abusive marriage but is still trying to save his son... Thank you!
I sincerely hope you get your son back!
You go king
I feel you Brother. The court system is against us and its completely unfair. Best of luck...
Best of luck to you brother!
if your wife is abusive I do hope you get your child, I would hate it for an abusive person to get the child. I am a woman and I don't care about the idea that a mother should get the child, he/she should be with the person that would take care of the well being of the small person as best as they can. good luck to you!
The real enemy is EXTREMISM that completely shuts out the other side, regardless of which way you lean.
Indeed, the truth is usually somewhere closer to the middle.
This!!!
People like chanty binx and Alex Jones
@putalawea equisde stop
Its called fascism
Ugh having been falsely accused of abuse when in fact my ex was the one that was violent, this hit home. It took her own sister testifying against her for me to get custody of my kids. Ridiculous.
The last 2 minutes are something truly impressive. Everyone can apply this to their life, EVERY group. This woman is very intelligent.
"When you start to humanize your enemy, you, in turn, may be dehumanized by your community " this is so true .
Powerful but very true. Everyone around you hates this person or group. When you dig deeper and realize the monster you thought was there was actually not there but just a human. Your group starts to hate you because they believe that by seeing good in something bad then you are as bad as that accused person or group
But when will the enemy humanize you?
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Maybe they were never your enemy to begin with?
@@snowbind ask the Red pill society that question how they feel about women, all women of all ages
History repeats itself
"When one group is silenced, it's a problem for all of us.". Something I wish more people understood.
JA JA JA JA
Tbh idc if far right folks would be silenced
@@c.sstudios3060 then why do you care so much?
@@c.sstudios3060 Shush yo mouth soy boy
@@c.sstudios3060 yeah well us fAr RiGhT eXtReMiStS don't need silence when you communist soybeans do just fine running your mouths like inept teeny boppers. Just saying...🤷♂️
The amount of compassion and empathy she is capable of is emotionally moving.
First, she used logic and facts to realize her views were mistaken. Only later did she become empathetic.
The problem with our culture today is that facts and logic are seen as uncaring, even patriarchal. Our "education" institutions indoctrinate young minds into believing that feelings are what matter most. Our culture is the opposite of stoic, and this is the result of feminism.
She seems like a really, really good person imo. Beautiful inside and out
Wow... just wow. Your talk was nothing short of a genuine honesty and all too rarely seen introspective evolution in real time as seen through and communicated via the eyes of a documentary creator/artist. It was quite a brilliant presentation. I'm grateful to you that you made it. Bravo.
“When you start to humanize your enemy, you, in turn, may be dehumanized by your community.”
What a sadly raw, honest statement.
Still into effect in most communities, including some/most muslim communities
whats the cure? :(
When Jon Snow considered the wildlings were human too , and shud be protected from the night king, he gave them shelter.
In turn he was murdered by his brothers of the Nights Watch for supporting them. He never said he was switching sides, he just wanted the same side for all.
Feminists are a community of deranged man bashers set in a society that already favors women. I have quit women and want nothing to do with them. The arrogance of being in a "movement" that wants to push men further off the cliff of inequality that is practiced against men should be enough for anybody.
@@beneaththesurface1569
I feel sorry for you.
@@riteshbolane the one true king,The King in the North
“When you start to humanize your enemy, you, in turn, may be dehumanized by your community.”
Legendary Quot
Indeed, we are all humans
More profound words were ever spoken.
*only if your community is corrupt
Uchiha Itachi
I love the women who research these gender based topics and come to realise where they stand on these issues. It's heartening to hear a woman vouch for us who may not be able to / not be confident to say it out loud. I hope to see progress in gender equality during my lifetime. ❤
That was so outrageously beautifully spoken. I'm appalled that I've not heard about this particular ted talk until now, However, I'm glad it eventually made it's way onto my suggestions.
There is nothing that brings a tear to my eye and stirs my soul like when I see someone grow and admit fault. Humility.
Idno man, you seen those videos of soldiers coming home to their dogs? That stuff'll get you every time :P
Kial O'C Don’t get me going down that UA-cam rabbit hole
@@Andrew-oj3pv I can't get down another rabbit hole. I've just watched 5 ted talks in a row.
Yes well God knows how much damage she did before she became woke 🤔
@@xmixaplix God? You think God cares?? look around you.. Does it really look like a God cares what we do? People drop that name like they know it personally.. Like there is a 2 way convo going on.. Do you pay any mind to the ant crossing the side walk? Nope, so why would a god?? Are they sociopaths?? Because the behavior they have displayed says they are... God.. seriously?? God died once mankind started having IQs over 135..
This woman has simply gone to a higher level of understanding, she is far beyond a thought of gender, she is clear about the true sense of equality, she has my deepest respect.
Well said
Same
Well put.
Death to the broom. . I want a vacuum cleaner
@@Aj-vz5ux Death to the broom! 🤣
I almost cried watching this because it hit so close to home. Thank you Cassie for having the courage to stand up for us, not many people do. I'm not a religious person but I see you as a saint. Wishing the best for you, yours and everyone.
As a man, this woman inspires me to make sure I constantly challenge myself to see things from other people’s perspectives and to challenge my own pre-existing notions. Her story is a journey of empathy.
"as an interviewer you don't interrupt." there is something you dont see in today's mainstream media.
She was rather professional about it at the very least, externally anyway..
Interview with Jordan Peterson.
Sometimes its hard when populism is a thing and politicians are constantly lying in interviews. But in this case you’re right.
Because the main stream media has an agenda
Look up her interview in Australia... it was so bad. The media was trying to bring her Down.
"We have to stop expecting to be offended" That right there.
Haze Days hi is this young thing. I don't here 35 plus feeling intense about men or women. But seeing it everywhere can drive us zany lol
Amen, brother
Goes all ways. All ways.
Great quote!
I'd like to see one MRA listen to a feminists and try not to get offended. And vice versa.
I was so ready to vilify This woman and scream at my TV. I watched in silence and I wept. Kudos to this courageous humanist.
Beautifully said! I have been trying to work on my own faults while feeling so much shame in the process. Watching someone do so in front of a crowd makes me realize shame is what is holding me back. I just simply need to continue to grow. Thank you.
“When you start to humanize the enemy. You become dehumanized by your community” Amazingly put.
💯
As a former liberal, liberals are experts at doing that.
@@nwinburn Any group is. Look at what Trump supporters do to conservatives who don't like Trump.
@@govsecret536 What do they do?
This is why i'm always scared of discussing any social or political issue with anyone. The fear of being heavily judged by both sides discourages me from speaking up. I'm sure there's a great number of moderate political folks, but since the media grossly generalises left and right, they don't have a voice in the conversation.
Way way way way wayyyyy too many people look at mens rights as just ”anti-feminism”
man these replies are getting old
at first I understood the critique because I only ever saw it used in response to women complaining about their rights. but over time I've seen more and more dudes and even women try to go up for men independent of anything to do with somebody else's ongoing convo, get smeared online, labeled and clowned. what started as genuine concern quickly shifted to something else.
@Stefon Palinic it's not a competition. People who frame it that way defeat the purpose of discussions about gender relations anyway. Women have advantages as do men. Although most of ours are based on person to person perception and not law like theirs. There is truth on both sides of the discussion. But both sides take the worst of the opposing side and frame it as the norm. That's why convos go nowhere.
And if you read my post you'll see my issue was the topic being "all lives matter"ed when nobody is heard that way. I can be critical of both sides because again it isn't a competition
@@Plaky No feminazi is for extremists. Blindly.
Shutup you Sexist
She can be the saviour of our race! She has sanity! Integrity! She deserves respect of all men! I felt proud of her! Sanity, sense, sensibility and grace! I have never seen someone like her before!
It’s refreshing to see people being honest with themselves & thinking things through.
I searched, “what is misandry?” And this is the only video that came up that was Not vilifying men. I really appreciate this woman for her honesty. ☮️❤️
When 3 of my 4 children were born, the hospital's policies would not allow me to be alone with them, including when my wife was sleeping. We were provably married, my wife even gave consent, but their policies still prohibited me based on the *possibility* that I was an abusive man. As a loving, religious, married and involved husband and father, I don't think I've ever felt as diminished in my life.
John Michel wow! That’s just ridiculous, I’m sorry man
Wow, that should shouldn't be illegal your wife even gave consent
That is absolutely heartbreaking. They shouldn't be allowed to split up families like that. I'm so sorry this happened to you. :(
Oh my god..
America?
"When you start to humanize your enemy, you, in turn, may be dehumanized by your community."
basically.
Truth
Indeed a factual statement made from a collection of words arranged into a sentence that is explaining a thing
Strong one!
There is no money being exploted, when you humanize your enemy.
This program should be shown at every learning institution in the world. Absolutely the most brilliant and perfect synopsis of our age.
Unfortunately it never will be and I suspect there is a reason why it's a TEDx Talk and not just a TED Talk.
What an amazing human. She brought up concerns that I, as a grown man with two boys, have been thinking about for years. To be able to see “the other side” is not common for anyone. I’m guilty of failing at it just like everyone else. When my boys are old enough to fully grasp what she’s saying, I will be showing them her speeches and documentaries. What a great lesson for them. This is what a leader looks like. I bet her parents are very proud of her.
12:28 "It turns out I did meet my enemy while filming, it was my ego." That's powerful. Mad respect to this woman for her humbleness.
Humility.
@@twiston43
'beat me to it X D
Nicholas Leclerc haha same I was just about to reply that
And now her ego is getting even bigger due to this
Kuuukko this not a very constructive comment. Would you agree with the statement “If she can maintain the sense of humility and compassion displayed in this presentation rather than allow the publicity associated with her projects to make make her more egotistical and vain that she would greatly contribute to an uptick in overall human rights”?
This woman is so smart. She realized her bias and her dismissal and fixed it instead of justifying it. Bravo!
Italiano anche te?
@@stefanos6505 spaghetti?
@@Gyros-nr9ke Preferisco le costate.
It’s a beautiful thing to learn just how much you don’t know. I sincerely hope you returns to woman’s rights advocacy. It’s important to have such intellectual honesty in an adversary. Fight me and win on your merits means that you deserve the resources. It’s better to lose to honestly then to win because of communist propaganda. If woman’s rights needs such resources then by all means but if some other rights such as men’s rights need those resources then they should win.
That is wonderful. How many can?
Wonderful when you see someone willing to look inside and change their minds. Very impressive young woman. More of us need to face into the tough learnings. Well done!
She ended up becoming a better version of herself by listening to her "enemies".. Beautiful Soul who's emitting sensitivity & compassion! Thank You Cassie Jaye!
Once during a college debate I spoke about Men's rights and I was stopped midway and made to apologise for daring to speak for men's issues as if it was somehow anti woman. I was villified and called a misogynist, sexist bigot by the same feminists who claim they care for gender equality. Totally sick mentality.
Are you male or female and where are you from if you don't mind me asking?
@@ok-sj7bx Why does that matter?
@@devonm042690 you have hit the nail on the head!
@@ok-sj7bx Judging by his comment, he's probably a male student in an American college.
I was villified at work for suggesting that I wasn't able to access programs for support and when I suggested there was inequality in the process and workplace I was put on a performance review .... yes this whole debate is BS it's about mutual respect and rights, so long as some groups have more rights and opportunities than you do....
I respect this woman for acknowledging her bias and having the humility to shed it.
usethefooorce agreed... one of few it seems...
@Peter Laughton ok mr incel
I believe we have found the other half of the issue
Hopefully more women and men (like Peter in the coments) will do the same.
@Peter Laughton Ok simp
Thank you for being so informative. I learned a lot from you.keep up your good work!!
I had the great good fortune to meet and have a conversation with Cassie Jaye at a screening of the movie and meet and greet here in Calgary. It was hosted by the Men's Educational Support Association(M.E.S.A.) which I was a founding Charter signing member of in the mid 90's. She is a well spoken, articulate young woman who put so much of herself into this project that the inner turmoil she experienced is obvious in the finished product. Would definitely Recommend!
She is a very rare human, the one who can admit they were wrong.
She's addressing the real problem. Lack of Understanding.
Very true
magic trombone true...
Not as rare as you think it is, people who know when they are wrong or can admit they are less influential that people who believe they are right.
@@Frizzles True
Single father here. Closer to my DAUGHTER than she is with her mother. I woke up in the middle of the night during infancy not her. I was cheated on and abandoned then forced to pay child support in a JOINT custody agreement where I have her 50% of the time. I've been put through the ringer and continue to be and nobody cares. Glad to hear this. Men aren't always what society pretends they are. Respect to all the single moms out there no disrespect. Respect to all the good dads too.
I'm sorry my man and people wonder why we want to kill our exes haha
This is dark
I've had custody of my 2 children for nearly 2 years. We haven't received a single penny from their mother in child support.
She cheated, she abused me and my children.
If it was the other way around it would be whole different story. But on a brighter note I've met a lot of women since I've had them and they have all supported me and been great.
@Tessi simp my moms a single mom but my father was the one who cheated on her
I feel you, brother
I'm also a single dad to a daughter who, like your daughter, is closer to me than her mother, in fact, she doesn't even acknowledge her mother as being her mother, saying that "She doesn't deserve the title" and she's right
Just like in your situation, I also was cheated on, or I suspected that she'd cheated on me at least, I ended up paying child support to her mother's Aunt and Uncle whom she'd surrendered her parental rights of our daughter to and prior to my being able to appear in court for custody of my daughter, I was arrested for a BS charge, which was eventually thrown out of court for lack of evidence and that was enough to make the lawyer representing me to tell me that she'd felt that my only options were:
Voluntarily surrendering my parental rights to my daughter and still having the chance to have visitation with her
Or
Go to trial, get my parental rights taken from me anyway and never get to see her again
Ask 10 men who they talk to or confide in when they’re down. The amount of men that respond with something like “no one, nobody cares” may astound you.
My ex-wife used to turn in me in a second and then try to swing at me like a man. If something didn't go her way in life then she would yell and cuss at me. She did that to me in public. I finally filed for divorce and then she completely flipped. She was kind and wanted me to pull the divorce papers. When I refused she then told me that she would have me killed. I just looked at her, told her she had 5 days to pack up her stuff and get out. Long story short, she disappeared so she couldn't be served the divorce papers. She didn't even show up to court. Men get abused more often than people think.
@藍染 惣右介Aizen Sousuke depends on state laws
Way to stand your ground 👍🏾
i would never commit just pump and dump
I'm sorry that happened to you:(
Thank you for sharing you story, I hope your doing better these days! Stay strong :)
It's a beautiful thing when someone, ANYONE, can stand up and say "I was wrong so now I want to put things right".
AMEN Scott Kendrix, it takes a strong person to admit when they're wrong. I despise the term, "Toxic Masculinity"
@@dorothycampbell3 Toxic masculinity is maybe an over-used term by some groups in an attempt to demean others but it is an issue. More often than not it's an issue that negatively effects men. Men aren't allowed to show emotion or 'weakness' in a lot of cases or else they are ridiculed. This sort of thing can and does lead to issues of depression and misrepresentation. There are additional TED talks about the subject which are worth a watch.
Matt G in a lot of cases the fact that we don’t show emotion is the reason in general men are funnier than women as instead of just staring our feelings we put a filter on it via comedy so it doesn’t make us look weak
This woman is a great add to society
Matt G toxic masculinity is not real because it is a subjective idea and has no true definition. The definition changes from person to person therefore it’s just an Internet slang term that made it big time but will definitely fade away soon.
She acknowledged that the only things she learned about the Men’s Rights Movement came from biased viewpoints online. However she was open minded enough to see from the other side’s point of view. Respect x100
Girl you gotta love your man, take him by the hand, make him understand, the world on you depends our life will never end. Gotta love your man.
riders on the storm...
She has gained my respect. Her well spoken, calm, logical, presentation is a rarity today.
Its like listening to my slovene teacher
She stated the facts
It’s a trap!
That's why the left has probably banished her. Because she's rational.
Respect for her but she still has the power to screw you over just like any other woman.
"We Have to STOP EXPECTING to be Offended, & WE have to START TRULY, Openly & Sincerely Listening"
KILLED IT
Wth I was scrolling threw comments and I hear her say “stop” as I saw the comment
@@ActivatedSpy06 omg the same thing just happened to me lmao
@@akanecollazo6244 😂😂😂
That's not going to happen, in this moment everyone gets offended by everything
Nice profilpicture
Thank you for being the only woman in human history to actually stop and LISTEN to what the men have to say. Wonderful.
I tip my hat and have listened carefully to the words of Cassie Jaye, as well as having already seen her documentary almost a month ago.
As she describes it beautifully, one should generally give each other enough time in conversations to ask questions, to listen, to try to understand and then to be able to answer appropriately if one wants to: because you don't always have to answer.
Sometimes a "I understand you.", or "I have understood your statement so and so." is enough.
👏🏻🙏🏻
“It’s not a contest, but I kept making it into one.” bingo. I feel like so many people from both sides of this argument (as well as many others) need to realize this.
Yes. If people stop thinking only about themselves, everyone would be happy
I must admit, I have done that mistake as well 😬
@@mariana457 The key to self improvement is acknowledging mistakes.
@@thephilosopherwhojoked4249 Thank you 😊
Yes💯
I haven’t seen my two boys in almost 5 years despite having joint legal custody. I’ve spent a half million dollars in court with no success. You see, I’m the dad so I’m the bad guy. Men’s issues are real. So glad this lady had the guts to admit that.
This could really happen to anyone. I hope that you will find justice for your (and their) actions someday.
I lost my two boys for 7 years but things have started to change. Hang in there. They need you, even if they don't know it yet. In modern western culture men lose custody battles.
women are fighting their own ego. Nothing about men.
@@saralomauyesu I get where you're coming from but you have to remember that Not all women are like that, and men can be losers too.
She has been destroying men rights for years and just makes a video for views and suddenly is forgiven
If a criminal admits to a crime it doesn't make him/her a better person
Amazing. She is a courageous woman. I have so much respect for her. Standing up for what is right in the face of adversity. Well done!
I knew about her in 2013 while she was making the film. I expressed the same sentiments to my friends and family and had the same extreme ostracism and dehumanization. I was universally reviled and pushed on and took it because I couldn't stand by and accept this. Now many of them have likely seen this talk. They'll say "oh but you were more 'extreme.'" I was not! Your perception of extreme was marked by your bias, which has changed with socio-political fashion. Will I get a single apology? Not one until the day I die. Do I regret it? Never!
The real issue with society: people will oppose you without even knowing what you stand for. They will deny what you say without even hearing what you have to say.
It's largely, if not all rooted in assumption. That and the inability to admit you're wrong. If you can admit when you're wrong and catch yourself when you assume something (whether true or not, but especially if not), you'll notice that conflicts that arise in your life will get nowhere near as bad as they were before being this way. If more people did that, emotionally charged arguments would be a lot more uncommon. Sadly much of modern culture promotes and incentivizes irrationality, hivemind mentality, and even psychological/emotional manipulation, if only subliminally.
Then don't entertain them problem solved.
well they dont even know what they stand for themself
yeah, they just wanna be right in every situation... more than wanna be human...
That's just society in general.
If she was met with hostility for saying this, imagine how a man would be treated who says the exact same thing. That's why you're not hearing this much.
Pretty sure she was publicly vilified and slandered for this. Her movie was mocked, subject to controversy, and banned on different platforms and different countries. Men need to realize we are under attack and actually always have been.
That's the problem with double standards. If feminists want to attain equality there are privileges that need to be given up in exchange for removing the disadvantages. Children are used as bargaining chips against men in divorce. Why? If a father is given 50% custody, he is expected to be grateful and willing to give up something else (usually money / property)... Why is that not a right? If not for the father's, then a right of the children?
You need magnesium. Ha! Indeed they were clowns. However, the insidious undertone is that they needed be nothing more. They still won the day, censorship still occurred, idiocy aside. And concerns for the rights and liberties of men were once again marginalized. If anything, their idiotic bating could’ve been catastrophic for men had not she handled herself so gracefully (an example we men should seek to emulate.) Underestimating our adversaries is a gift undeserved... And we have given enough of those already.
yep!
@@taliesin1977 what do you mean 'Why is that not a right?...'?
It’s almost been six years since this was released and I feel as if we’re a lot farther from the middle ground of honest and open conversation than we’ve ever been. People are just becoming more and more consumed with their own egos and it’s a truly sad thing to see.
well said
Spot on Cassie. Truly listening is vital. Listening carefully to the other person speaking and not to the words in one’s head that you plan to say next. Respect to you for listening and truly trying to enter the world your ‘enemy’ inhabits. 🙂
This is healthy, listening to the other side is healthy.
Don’t let the elite divide us
@@gplugt7960 how so?
@@gplugt7960 How? He literally said to listen to the other side, which is what the woman speaking was encouraging...
@@gplugt7960 Mate you might want to take the filter off for this one.
Both sides have some legitimate problems
Your absolutely right you must know your enemies side of the story to be able to achieve a better future for our children and their children we must work together not again each other
Why don't the logical feminists like her get more publicity?
because the other feminists shut her down
theres a lot of money going to the femenisit movement. The Red Pill is available on you tube this week anyway
Bc people love selective hearing
@@mikegivemecheese3001 you right you right, but the people that are logical and don't have selective hearing should support more people like her so logic spreads not femenism
Because the radical feminists always shout louder. It doesn’t mean that there are more of them, it is just that they are extremely vocal and pushy, which usually gets the attention of the scandal-seeking media. And there is goes.
Thank you for this!!! While I’ve not been accused of committing any of the misogynist “crimes” you mentioned, just listening to you express amazement at how many instances of potential male abuse there exist today in our society helped me realize that yes, men truly do deserve at least as much compassion as do women for coping with their own issues! Listening to you brought me the realization that all of the anti-masculinity rhetoric has negatively affected how I relate to women. I almost cried at the realization of the weight of it!
Upending your belief system takes both an amazing level of self awareness and an incredible amount of courage. How wonderful could the world be if we all looked at the human condition from this lady’s perspective, or at least, with her intellectual agility.
Massive admiration for anyone standing up and saying they were wrong in their assumptions, and being willing to change their mind. In short supply these days.
I think one of the reasons why it is so rare is that we treat saying "I was wrong" as some sort of weakness or moral failing.
It takes a strong heart to not fear backlash for admitting your mistake.
@@justinhamilton2334 most definitely. People love to say that others should admit they are wrong more, yet will scrutinize or judge those who admit it in ways that make people not want to admit incorrectness/failures.
Absolutely. Not only that, but understanding both sides and admitting mistakes makes you a more likely candidate to listen to. People who never admit they're wrong even when they are, have no merit.
It takes wisdom to recognise one's flaws, courage to accept them and a will to change them.
I got attacked too by many so-called feminists because i stand up for men's rights too. Gender equality is acknowledge BOTH rights. I salute Cassie for this! Total wisdom. God bless you, dear ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Natalia, you are doing the right thing. ✅️
God bless you too !
individualist
Big Brothers solution is to declare gender “a social construct” so this lovely lady’s statement “all people were birthed by a woman” is now transphobic and fact checked false. George Orwell warned us, it’s too late.
Humans like you are the only reason God still accept us lol
Until the day where people realize that two things can be true without contradiction even if they are on “different sides” we won’t see affective change. Woman can have issues that need to be addressed, while men can have the same. There is no one victim. We are the victims of our own making.
"No one will ever listen to you more than someone who transcribes your words."
I fully agree with this statement. When you're transcribing, it's impossible to only hear the things you want to hear, because you have to pay attention to every single word that's being said.
"When you start to humanize your enemy, you, in turn, may be dehumanized by your community". So true.
So true!!!!
Hey!! Did someone else said It or is it hers? So beautiful!!
I love the thought.
@@selftaughtpolyglot It's hers
Interestingly; this has been documented several times throughout history. Cases; where kings; generals; or other important people show empathy with the enemy; and immediately get spurned as a consequence.
Seems we humans really like to double down on our bias..
American history X...
I have great respect for that women.
It takes a lots of guts to tell a story where you describe yourself as the vilain...
TeteBruleeFR villain*
She is a badass. She entered an opposing ideaology, and learned it instead of imediately dismissing it.
I wish more people were like her.
@@DriscolDevil Men's rights advocacy is not an ideology, never mind the opposite of feminism. It's an opinion compatible with every ideology on the sane part of the political spectrum, be it progressivism, (social and classical) liberalism, conservatism, libertarianism, and everything in between. The only gender-ideology in existence is feminism.
Men have been saying this for years.... and what? It took a female to explain for people to somewhat acknowledge this? There's Another example....
The hardest choices require the strongest will
Very literate talk, I loved just listening! Woman vs her Ego -> one of the classic literary (and practical) struggles (Man vs. Man, Man vs. Nature, Man vs. Society, Man vs. Self, Man vs. Technology, and Man vs. Supernatural; substitute Woman or any other Pronoun as applicable). I love that you attempted to humanize your enemy… gonna try to use that one in my coping skill set. Thanks for sharing your work and enlightenment. Smarter for having tuned in 🎉
Everyone must learn from her experience and learnings... men and women.
This talk is pure gold.
As a man who is still trying to cope with a false accusation thank you
I wish you the best from The Netherlands, eventually the good will overcome the bad.
Just know that nobody cares about your feelings, stay strong man, shit's rough out here.. best of luck
wish you sm luck you will get through this!!
@@beeman4266
That first bit sounded demotivational
@@gladiammgtow4092
Hasn't that just become an incel women hate club?
Being a male, I wasn’t expecting something this positive towards men, mostly because of the bitterness against men.
Sincerely, we need more women like you❤️
Same
More people in general like them.
aye
Absolutely
Yessir....🙋♂️
See and that's the difference between an argument and a debate. An argument is when you don't listen to the other person and you're just waiting for your turn to talk, a debate is when you listen to the other person and come up with an intelligent rebuttal. A lot of people men and women like to argue but most do not like to debate
more of this please! honesty and real talk here. this woman is gold!
Until this point, I wasn't even aware that men's right movements exist.
Exactly my thought.
@Caleb Pederson Men and boys have suffered much indeed. I can give many moments in history when this happened. Though to keep it short, I will say, look at the Lost Generation.
Its not politically correct so nobody cares
Same
Same here