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(2001) Decline of hair metal bands in the early 90s
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- End of interviews about 80s metal gradually falling out of flavor for grunge circa 1992, although harder thrash bands like Metallica were untouched by it. Jani Lane's story about going to his manager's office in 1990 and seeing the Cherry Pie poster, then in 1992 seeing "Dirt" sums it all up! Shannon Doherty closing it out at the end.
The change from the Poison-like band to Pearl Jam's "Even flow" hits hard
It was a breath of fresh air!
Nah, they suck. But it did get oversaturated. Bands like Cinderella who started as heavy and glam, but moved to their own thing were really the best.
@@cccormac4963 love me some Cinderella
@@danlford just saw Tom Keifer in June.
@@cccormac4963 awesome. I've been watching their videos on UA-cam a lot lately. The solo in long cold winter gives me chills. Was my favorite band for most of that era.
Say you were 15 in 1983, and your little brother was 5. For ten years you listened to hair metal, and you were suddenly 25 and little brother was 15. Little brother wanted his own thing, not yours. You were no longer cool to him.
Exactly...their fans grew up, had different priorities and the younger ppl coming up where open to a different sound
Or you listened to DRI, COC or Husker Du and realized grunge was just a more polished version of 80s hardcore and couldn't believe they were playing it on the radio.
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Ricky rocket in a midwestern karen haircut reminds me the death of cheese rock wasn’t a bad thing.
I do however miss the energy, tempo and ability of early metal guitar rockers.
Warren d martini
They hit the nail on the head when they talked about the recession in 1991. The '80s party was over, and the uncertainty and austerity was the new reality. It's really no accident that grunge, with its darker themed songs and thrift store flannel image became popular at that time.
Grunge was just one of a couple new sub-genres that burst out of the American hardcore musical underground from the late 80's where it had been brewing for years, ready to explode,.especially on the West Coast in the south-central L.A. gangsta rap scene with N.W.A., Bone Thugs N-Harmony, Ice Cube, Ice T before them, the Geto Boys, Tupac Shakur, Dr. Dre, Death Row Records, etc there were warning signs even by 1987-88, that the near-decade long party had gone on a little too long and lot of serious socio-political issues were occurring in and around glam rock bands Sunset Strip playground that saw them as detached from reality, decadent, wholesale sellouts.
Grunge or subsequent grunge marketing can't claim complete responsibility for destroying glam, a harder, nastier threat struck the first blows and arguably arranged the first few nails in the 80's glam metal Sunset Strip scene and a good percentage came straight out of Compton.
True, the party had to stop at some point.
Rap was already starting to take it's toll too.
My cousin got me into Metallica and Poison in 89, but by 91 she was listening to rap which I found incredibly boring.
@@davidroberts7282 You also have to remember, bands like Guns N' Roses and Great White in '87 and '88 were dictating which direction the fashion would move going forward. Gone was the spandex, big hair, and makeup, in favor of a more 70's-inspired denim-and-bandanas look.
Grunge was depressing anti party music but they all still had the same substance abuse problems as the hair bands they just made it depressing. Ill admit I liked some of them but given the choice, man give me some uplifting ,have a good time, party rock over that depressing go kill yourself music that not ironically a few actually did.
To be honest Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, and Megadeth known as the big four changed what music was supposed to be like. At the same time Guns N' Roses put all the hair metal bands on notice, but it was not until grunge music destroyed hair metal forever.
These documentaries tend to forget that other “alternative” groups like Faith No More, RHCP, REM were gaining more success in the nineties. Then pop-punk like Green Day, Offspring, Rancid, and maybe rap music played a role as well in the decline of glam (or hair metal).
You summed it up perfectly!
Grunge lasted less than Glam Metal and Glam was not destroyed forever. There is a scene of it still growing and even the old bands are coming together and packing venues, however, Grunge, until now, is pretty much dead.
Grunge died because the musicians died. It was fueled by heroin. Grunge was far far superior music to glam metal which is terrible trash.
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 Grunge had the same faith as every trend: the first bands were cool, then the music labels wanted their own Nirvana/Pearl Jam/Alice in Chains and started signing every band that looked and sounded somewhat similar and shoving them down the people's throat until it was replaced by Nu-Metal which was "cooler" just as Grunge was "cooler" than Glam Metal back in the day. However, as previously stated, Grunge is not coming back, but Glam and Nu-Metal is coming back indeed. Whatever brings money to the table will be back.
One legit 80's band that all of us in 90's high school had was Skid Row's 'Slave To The Grind'. Everyone had that CD along with AIC, Nirvana, and Pearl Jam.
What made thrash the primary surviving genre in the metal world was the fact that the bands we're doing realist, cynicism long before Grunge ever was, or ever thought of. Kill Em All to And justice for all(Metallica), Peace Sells... But who's buying (Megadeth), The New Order (Testament).
exactly !!!!
Cynicism in music was there since the very beginning.
John Lennon, Petr Townshend, Roger waters were known for it
@@pinkled4429 True, it just took a backseat from the mainstream in the 80's until reality set back in
Music changes every decade. It’s to be expected. But the way Grunge entered! DAMN!!
It literally DESTROYED HB’s OVERNIGHT. That’s a very rare thing which makes it so historical.
Then MTV catered to rap and then died out
@LawlessLee Cobain brought in grunge, and brought out grunge when he died. And the other musicians had a foot in the grave with drug addiction.
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 all’s I know is hairbands had more than their feet in that grave.
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 I dont care if they died with a needle sticking out their asses………The music was DOPE
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 but at least we FINALLY had some REAL MUSIC
There’s just something about that 80s rock man ! It’s just awesome And The guitar was great too tons of epic solos ! the 90s were great too tho don’t get me wrong
In rock music, each genre, or style is created as a response to the last popular style that came before it. Glam Metal was a response to the jazzy dinosaur rock bands of the late 70's. Bands like Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Ted Nugent, etc. Those types of bands got just as bloated and full of themselves as the Glam Metal bands did in the 80's. Zeppelin started incorporating blue grass, and 20 minute drum solo's in their music later in their career, and people were getting tired of that jazzy style of rock. Glam Metal came along and had simple, straight to the point, balls to the wall rock n roll, especially when it first began. The choruses were huge, the guitar solo's were great, and the songs were almost made specifically for arena's, and radio. As it went, the first wave of Glam Metal bands influenced the second wave, who wanted to make their own mark in the genre to separate themselves, then came the power ballads. While I love power ballads from that era, in the long term it did hurt the image of Glam Metal, and gave Glam haters another thing to bitch about. To me power ballads from the 80's are some of the best songs ever written period, but the hard core rock and Metal audience was always going to hold that against those bands. In a way Glam Metal sold it's reputation in order to write power ballads. Sure, they made lots of money from those great songs, but at the same time, it came at a long term cost. Still, I wouldn't want to live in a world where those 80's power ballads didn't exist, because most of those songs are beautiful. With or without the power ballad's, Glam Metal wasn't going to last forever, because the world changes every day, every month, every year. While so many people have always loved Glam Metal, it's the youth that steers the ship for the music industry. We live in a 21's century that makes the Glam Metal bands sound like Bach.
The 90s sucked. I wore my old cds and cassette tapes out during that period. No radio or mtv because all they had was that depressing ass music or fucking rap. Later on I did appreciate some of the 90s music but not until it had pretty much fizzled out. I guess I was mad at grunge for making people think they were pigs if they wanted to just have a good time. You had to wear flannel shirts be depressed and moody all the time.
It used to be fun to get all ricked out go to a gig
@@danlfordI didn’t care for it especially the late 90s
I was 14 in 91 when grunge hit. I remember loving Motley Crue and Skid Row, but when I heard Alice in Chains and Nirvana I was hooked. Now I love both eras. Was never a fan of the really "corny" (as I would consider them) bands like Poison, Ratt, Winger, and Warrant... but I fucking love Motley Crue and Guns N Roses as much as Nirvana and AIC.
I hear what U R sayin but I wouldn't lump Ratt in with those "corny" hair metal bands, in fact they are one of the few hair metal bands that actually transcend the label, at least on their first 2 LPs , much better than 90% of their peers. Give those first two records a re visit , maybe U will agree?
@@juanramirez-wk8ty I would lump Ratt right in there, to me the best hair band was Dokken. I'm a Maiden, Megadeth, Slayer fan though. George Lynch was awesome. Warren De Martini was a good guitarist. At the end of the day they were almost pop metal. The bands that survived were the bands with substance, like Maiden, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer etc. I loved Grunge though, a refreshing change.
@@walkawaycat431 Well it's nice that we can disagree but Ratt sure was a lot better than most hair bands to me and I am an old school metal head that came up with all forms of that music, from Priest and Maiden to Slayer , Lamb of God etc... don't know if you ever listened to Ratt's first 2 LP's but they are classics. To each their own I guess.
@@juanramirez-wk8ty Yes. Ratt was very good. I've heard both their albums, I owned "Out of the Cellar" they're still classified as a hair band. Even Wasp was considered a hair band, although they were harder than most hair bands. It's not a bad thing to be a hair band. Some are just better than others, Ratt was very good.
@@juanramirez-wk8ty Skid Row was a good band as well.
Guns N’ Roses were still selling millions in the early nineties, right?
GNR were not hair metal. They were darker and grittier.
@@jackcarraway4707 my mistake! I agree, but I don’t why some people categorize GNR as a hair band-maybe due to playing in LA, or something. I do think they appeal to the classic hard-rock audience better than the alternative and grunge bands. Though, at the same time, they still had a vast influence from punk, metal, and bands like Aerosmith, Rolling Stones, etc.
@@codyives5409 well their first album is def hair metal, but then they kinda found new sound(probably, not a fan of them but since use your illusion was i guess successful, they did something right)
As someone who was the part of the group that really " blew up grunge and killed hair bands", the late era Gen-Xer, we never viewed G N' R as a hair band. In fact, I remember my cousin watching MTV and hating everything then when Welcome to the jungle came on and I was like " wtf is this?" I remember like yesterday watching the entire video kind of slack jawed.
Guns came out as hair metal but backed off. They were "almost" just a good ole rock band. Had they been totally just rock, they would have stayed but they got lumped in with Poison, Warrant and Slaughter. Anybody on MTV at that time got lumped together. It killed Def Leppard and $hite like Nelson just because of how they looked. Grundge brought a short haired, mad attitude to the world that many early 20's males were feeling.
Grunge didn't kill metal!! 11 of the 12 nails we're already in the coffin ⚰️ and grunge was just the last nail in it. Hair metal has run its course.
And if the Grunge movement didn't completely kill Hair bands, Beavis and Butthead put the final nail on the coffin, hahaha, Poison sucks!
Were they... nine inch nails by chance?
@@jeremyc9593 - Knee Slapper. Good Pun!
Fantastic honesty from David Coverdale about the demise.
Dee's face is so long in this clip lol
Like Sarah Jessica Parker.
He looks like my old school bus driver 🤷🏻
Nirvana, AIC, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam were the "Seattle sound" and what those who weren't living hear in the Pacific northwest were familiar with but the real gritty shit was underground happening at the same time. It was way more "grungy" than the MTV bands. I love three of the four bands I mentioned but the real "Seattle scene" was happening in the dirty clubs the rest of the country didn't know bout. You wanted genuine grunge you would have been listening to Hammerbox, The Gits, Seven Year Bitch, TAD, My Sister's Machine, The Melvins - THEY were Seattle's true legacy and we were just fine to not share it with the rest of the world.
Thanks for keeping it to yourselves.
I remember when rockstar came out. A girlfriend asked if I was going to see it. I responded I don't have to I lived it. Long live rock n roll!! \m/
I wanna hear that story, my guy.
Late 80's metal (hair band) music was a real downer for me. As a young dude at the time, I was like ... "Am I suppose to be like these people!?" ... going to parties - I never liked being sh**-faced drunk, never did drugs, girls who were into that look/lifestyle weren't captivating to me, and visa versa (Wop Waaaaaah 🤣). I loved the music of the late 60's (Hendrix, Cream, Blind Faith) the raw rock of the 70's (LedZep, Iron Maiden, Floyd, AC/DC) and novel New Wave of the 80's ... Grunge - with it's back-country "organic" undertones was like a light at the end of the 80's Hair Metal cultural tunnel. A big fat reset switch.
You've got a point, 60s/70s and 90s rock was more soul searching. I love them both though. When I was a "kid kid" (4 in '89) obviously I didn't know lyrics or aesthetic I just liked songs for the sound. Hair metal wasn't very deep but it was fun
80s hair bands main theme was sex n partying but they had a ton of songs that had nothing to do with that. Matter of fact if you take most of any album from that time they mostly sung about love n life in general
I wasn't like those people and didn't want to be either but sure did love the music. Cinderellas long cold winter guitar solo still sends chills up my spine. How could you possibly enjoy that depressing grunge music over the mostly fun uplifting hair music? Different strokes I suppose
The spirit of 80s hair metal kind of lives on through modern day country, which is all about beers and sunshine.
It also sucks like 80s hair band's music as well.
Thanks to deathmetal and thrash until now metal still exist
80's metal lasted over ten years while grunge only lasted 3-4 yrs
I mostly agree (80s metal was like 1982 to 92; grunge was only innovative from about 91-95 but those shitty third rate post grunge bands were hanging around until like 2009)
Grunge was around since the mid 80s, if you mean mainstream popularity that may be true however, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, still tour and sells out big venues. It's also important to remember the Grunge movement never really was meant for mainstream appeal, the mainstream just found Grunge and even some of the smaller bands of that era are still around today playing small shows at bars.
@@thedude9941 I don't know why people think AIC is grunge band. They're more like hard rock/heavy metal type of band that came out tail end of metal/hair metal era. And if you think grunge didn't go mainstream, MTV played nothing but crappy grunge/alternative bands for 2 - 3 years. 120 minutes used to played bands like the smiths, sixouxsie and the banshees, the cure, depeche mode to playing nirvana, soundgarden, weezer, gigolo ants, toad the wet sprocket. I'm glad grunge is over, imo grunge was ten times worse than numetal/pop punk.
@@allll5557 Grunge wasn't a genre it was a scene made up of bands of different genres, I never said it didn't go mainstream I said that wasn't what it was meant for during the 80s it was strictly underground, with bands like Green River, The Melvin's, Mudhoney, The Lewd, the only reason it became mainstream was because the masses were tired of Glam and record label executives who were only out to make money saw it as something new to market.
@@allll5557 Jesus Christ it's not 1991 anymore Lmao. Grunge = Bands from Seattle in the early 90's it's that simple hence AIC is a grunge band lolol
Awwwww… R.I.P. Shannon.
As someone born in the early 90's i never see the appeal of hair metal, but grunge...fuck this was good.
@LawlessLee hair metal was the equivalent of mumble rap for hip-hop, nothing to take seriously and hair metal really aged like milk while rock from the 70's aged like fine wine.
@@richtofenchareyre8425 dude hair metal literally has the most iconic songs ever and aged like a fine wine …. not saying some grunge songs didn’t do this as well, but definitely nowhere as much as glam metal did. sorry, but you’re speaking bs.
@@dmtrv.m Iconic for only those who love that genre. I'm sorry but if you present that kind of music to a broad audience today, they would more likely find that type of music not appealing. Let's be honest, the way of singing that these singers have for example is really not appealing at all. Really hard to ignore it when you listen to a rock song (the singer's voice or tone). So if we talk about their voice, it's annoying at best, the lyrics have absolutely nothing special to bring to the table and musically you may have a good solo guitars or riffs here and there but it's overshadowed completely by the other factors I mentioned previously. And musically speaking there is better than that genre, so if you can take away the annoying voice and the stupid lyrics, why would you chose to listen to hair metal? Hair metal only appeals generally to those who grew up with that, of course with some exceptions here and there, but still.
@LawlessLee As someone who is in his early 20's I can say for fact people still love the 90's & 70's rock but no one likes the 80's hair band stuff. It aged the worst out of all these decades. You would be laughed at if someone knew you liked that music.
@@richtofenchareyre8425 I'm in my early 20's and if someone played that hair metal 80's rock they would legit get laughed at .
I'll never understand why grunge n hair metal couldn't co-exist. That's like saying take away R n B cuz hip hop is the new trend or take away punk music cuz pop is the new in. You can do the same b.s. with movies take away comedy movies cuz drama is better. Doesn't make sense to me
Well hair metal was on its way out. When a genre goes for that many years it has to fade from the spotlight at some point. Grunge just happen to kill it. It was too powerful i guess.
@frankfrega1302 I have to be sincere: this is the most intelligent comment I've read in last ten years and I'm not joking! Most of the people think Nirvana Soundgarden AIC etc etc killed hair metal or sleaze or hard n blues...call it what you want. But, the truth was that majors and labels KILLS the hard rock music (and all subgenres) and canalized ONLY one kind of rock (grunge) into the ONLY music market! In the 80's Faith No More, King's X, Living Colour could co-exist in the same music market of Ratt, Poison and so on (also metal act like Black Sabbath and Megadeth did too!). Really, it was absurd and unfair the behaviour from the major labels! Killing one whole kind of music was really disgusting!!!!
Agree whole heartedly. Extreme lol
for awhile they did, many grunge bands toured with the hair bands of the 80's, and early 90's..but nothing lasts forever, even the grunge music faded out, no one wants to keep hearing how the world and someone's life is a dark angry depressing place
Hair metal was an '80s phenomenon destined to die off in the mainstream.
As someone born in the early 90s, I never could understand the appeal of leopard print spandex, or leopard print anything for that matter.
'85 and I like it, then again I have a good memory and remember the tail end of it. Bright colors and patterns are the shit, cheesy but fun
Beats the snot out of looking homeless or nearly homeless and crying about your horrible, messed-up life all the time, which most of the grunge bands did. That style itself became more bland and generic than white bread by its end. In the bin it goes.
@@Apprentice_of_the_Leonine I was born in the early 90s and I agree with you. Give me Mötley Crüe, Cinderella and Poison any day over Kurt and his depressing, elitist buddies from Seattle.
@@thepinkwitchslair5364 thank you.
@@Apprentice_of_the_Leonine for fucking real. Depressing music written by depressed unstable people. The whole reason suicide rates jumped in the 90s.
I always felt that glam is dismissed just on the image and not the music. It’s possible I’m just seeing it wrong but to me it was just the logical follow up to the hard rock of the 70s. Especially early 80s glam metal bands had an edge to them.
Alice In Chains was the best thing to come out of the 90s
One of them. But not becUse they sounder more metal than other 90s bands
No. That was Type O Negative.
Tool, Primus, Soundgarden, Opeth, Meshuggah, and dozens of other bands kicked ass as well.
@@midnight-2021 90’s rock was good until pop punk happened. 🤮
@@carpenoctem775 it still was great no matter what. Celtic Punk by bands like the Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly in the 1990s to currently was and still is far better than pop punk anyway if you are going the Punk route.
Most of these glam bands are still touring too this today
Now they are wearing lots of wigs and hair dye.
Vince Neil turned out great!
@@heavyglamrocker1987 His voice is terrible at his older age.
I'm gonna get some hate for this but I genuinely never considered hair/glam metal to be actual metal. It feels like shallow pop music that has nothing to do with the rest of metal and I think it sounds awful with little to no redeeming qualities
I agree Glam is absolutely not metal, it's pop hardish rock it only got lumped in with the heavy metal genre by the idiots who started the satanic panic, calling this stuff metal is a disservice to actual metal bands.
@@thedude9941 I mean, your right especially about the whole “satanic panic” but I still loved Crüe yes even Shout At The Devil.
I find with a lot of people it’s also about what you grow up with, I grew up with Hair Metal Crüe, Poison, Dokken, etc…
So that’s what I like, you can’t lie though Hair Metal has the most iconic songs ever seen from a music genre.
Plus whenever a Hair Metal band goes on tour nowadays they are always sold out.
I was 15 when grunge hit. I was playing drums in a metal band (Metallica, Slayer, and Death influenced) but my favorite music was the hair metal. I hated grunge music. I remember being horribly depresses and the grunge didn't help matters.
My favorite band from that era didn't debut until 1990 though, and that was Lynch Mob.
Lynch Mob
LA Guns
Enuff Z Nuff
Skid Row
Those were my go to bands for pure enjoyment.
Thank god we got grunge
@@ligmaballs2022 so you like being depressed huh? Don't like to have fun and just enjoy yourself huh?
Hell yes to skid row. La guns . Didn't hear a lot from lynch mob.
@danlford I was diagnosed with autism and major depressive disorder, so yeah I am depressed. Going out and having fun doesn't help, after 3 mins I'm back to being moody. Family situation also not great. Always getting bullied in school. I can't relate to the lyrical content of the hair metal bands, because a depressed guy who is socially awkward can't relate to getting laid with girls when he has absolutely ZERO chances with someone. A depressed person cannot relate to 'going out and having a good time' because he knows he has to go back to a bad home situation and cannot afford to move out. I'm not American, so moving out is a lot more difficult
80's and 90's still the best era for music !!
for me, it's simple.
glam = fashion, which means it comes and goes (and will come again)
thrash mostly talks about facts. that's why they survive.
Its just rock n roll boys and girls.
My two favorite things are just about AC/DC and Shannen Doherty so this really does it for me!
RIP Shannon Doherty
Where can I find the whole documentary this clip is from ??
Some had some good success in the 1990s and 2000s but after 1992 it was dark times. 1998 it somewhat came back
Why is Dee Snider always commenting on these videos? his own band Twisted Sister we’re nothing more than a comedy Glam metal band, who’s records were as hard rock as Winger.
Because he's self aware.
Plus Twisted Sister started in New York in the 70's during the NYC Glam Rock scene like KISS, New York Dolls etc. But they didn't get famous until the 80's
dee is a legend, and so what if twister sister was a "glam band" they rocked, and 80's music is still the best clueless kid,, go look up the 'filithy 15 'list, dee spoke at a hearing when the parents music resource center (PMRC) attacked singers and bands for their lyrics in their songs
Mtv killed hair metal by refusing to play the videos.
it was basically like in rdr2. The gangs of gunslingers were breaking up and Dutch and his companions were the last to survive. but "we can't fight gravity." Guns N' Roses were the equivalent of van der Linde, the last ones left until Axl went crazy like Dutch, perhaps at the urging of Paul Huge (micah).

It could resurface, as is common something goes out of style and you have to change. Example Hulk Hogan getting rid of the red and yellow and becoming Hollywood, and the undertaker at one point had to drop the dead man gimmick and become the American badass. People grew sick of the hair metal in the 90s, but now is the time IMO for hair metal to rise like Phoenix from the ashes.
Hair Metal will never come back because it was so campy and childish. Nu Metal had its time after Grunge's death but that ended too.
@@riproar11 hair metal was big because it was so new. It had its place in music for sure, but I think the main reason people go back and listen is because of how catchy the songs were and how nostalgic they were. I can’t see a modern day hair metal band taking off unless they brought something new to the table
The hair metal lifestyle already has resurfaced, in the form of modern hip-hop.
@@LandonAPersonhair metal guys go did drive bys?
@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd Vince Neil killed a guy by crashing his car.
2 words.. Iron Maiden
I was so happy when glam finally bit the dust.
So basically these hair metal bands were in it for the good time.....for themselves.
That was the difference. Nirvana was in for the music and that’s it.
These guys were in it fir the fake fantasy shit.
Another thing that pisses me off is that people say grunge was all about depressing subject matter, but they're missing the point. It was all about the singers and the musicians and everyone having their own sound and great unique voices.
So some people like music that's fun and provides fantasy...not everything has to be about the music and serious...spectacle is entertaining as well.
just because they wrote songs about having fun, feeling good and partying instead of heartbreaking, sad and even “depressing” stuff doesn’t mean their music wasn’t important to them too. like, you really don’t have to discredit these artists just to make a point. if your criteria for a good song or good music in general is always deep ass lyrics and you enjoy this - okay, but it doesn’t mean that the rest is “fake”. that was trendy at the time, these bands did what they did lol
Glam metal was the mumble rap of metal in the 80s though atleast more talented musicianship wise
Very good comparison.
The term “heavy metal” gets tossed around way too much. None of those bands claimed to be heavy metal. And I’m sure they were quite aware at the time that they weren’t gonna be in style forever. Plus, they weren’t necessarily sexist either, because the women that followed that scene were there outta their own will. Nobody forced em to hang out with those bands.
I was 16 in 88. Phuking loathed hair metal. Me and my friends had to look back; Zep, Purple, but also ACDC, Motorhead, Pistols, Ramones, Stooges etc. Iron maiden, Dio etc felt too melodramatic with the demons, elves and tights. GnR were confusing (lol) a bit girly hair-metal (same 'woman are just pussy' attitude'), but they had something too, same with The Cult (Electric) and Danzigs similar first album. Metallica hit big, a bit bogan macho but cool. Then it got really interesting: Janes addiction, early Peppers, Faith no More. Remember seeing Alice in Chains 'man in the box' WOW. Then grunge hit and it was all on. Awesome! For 2-3 years anyways.
Yeah alternative and punk and 70s classic rock is probably the most timeless. I think it's all good music though (I'm an 80s baby, 84)
@@JPMcFly1985 I grew up in the 90s alt scene, thats when i started going to concerts, fucking, doing drugs, lot of great bands and sounds coming from that era. However i gotta say even though the hair metal scene was deemed fake and full of posers, those early 80s sunset trip days looked like a lot of fun, so many hot women all over, going to concerts every day of the week, it seem like every gig was packed no matter if was a known act or a new up and coming.....a lot of sex,drugs and rock n roll going around, its not my favorite type of rock n roll but i woulda like to time travel there for a week party it up lol.
Bret Michaels: my hair extensions... everywhere
Anything that gets popular eventually gets old and something new comes in. That's just how it's worked forever. Grunge or shoe gazer rock whatever you want to call it came in and was replaced by rap rock and so on. If it makes you feel good then listen to it. I prefer the 70s and 80s rock myself cause it took me away from my problems and made me feel good. Shoe gazer rock had a few tunes that I really liked but there was too much depressing music in that genre for me but to each their own
I was watching this with my guitar and somehow I started playing Sad But True and then 3:44 came a second later lol
SHOUT OUT TO MY FAV 80s COVER BAND - LA ROXX - (uh that’s LOUISIANA!!!! Not L.A. - but a lil play on it) WE LOVE KRIS DEVILLE!!
0:59 this tells you everything you need to know about how they treated women
Any blame for them, or not? 🤷🏻♀️
@@lupishanza1009 fym?
99% of men in bands didn’t treat women well, imo it’s part of why they had such bad relationships with girlfriends and wives
Still til this day I absolutely hate grunge. Best music ever was 80s hair metal band’s. That is why we still run to go see them.
Grunge was about as gimmicky as Hair Metal. But instead of larger than life shows with awesome musicianship they relied on sucking to seem more "punk rock" or "counterculture".
Wow what an analysis you did there dude lol. You sound like a damned critic. There's more to grunge than that you just spewed.
I wonder if it's time for over the top metal again?... I think we need it.
The opposite. In my opinion it's time for something raw like grunge again. All mainstream music today is just overproduced and corporate pop or rap made by artists with fake personas created by their PR team. It is about time we get some honest people down to earth with raw music filled to the prim with teenage angst. I'm saying this as a teen myself, tired of modern mainstream music.
Hell no, we need the opposite. Most of the attributes of over the top metal are what rappers (and some pop stars) are like now. We're in a rehash of 80s hair metal era, but the music is even more uninspired.
OK they say hair metal played 25/7 on MTV that's not really true maybe 88 or part of 89 but before teen spirit came out there was no major rock hit for months and months there was no rock bands on much music countdown zero I think the last big hit was like Mr big but nothing for maybe 6 months or more it didn't look good for the rock genre at all then bang teen spirit
Well at least Columbia had the good sense to promote one of the greatest albums of the 90s chains dirt stands as one of the all time greatest still i love my hair metal
This like boyband on 80s
The Hair Metal Bands declined in the early 1990s. Then the Grunge Movement started.
Everyone talks about glam, but the best part of the 80's was Metallica, Slayer, Sepultera, Testament, etc and the more hardcore thrash metal bands, and the birth of death metal. That was the only good thing about the 80's. It wasn't just glam into grunge. But hardcore metal is always outcast. 🤘
Real facts
3:25 BROO nirvana didn't need boms and lazers to get fans to go to there concerts
Nope their music was just good, and spoke to people about real stuff.
@LawlessLee Let me guess you loved men in leotards with hairspray LMAO.
By the late 80s hair metal became a parody of itself. Grunge was a welcome change.
It’s a trope with music genres that they have a time period of peak success and dominance and decline. It’s the way the cookie 🍪 crumbles.
Lol. There’s nothing fun about celebrating misogyny. Thank God for grunge.
Agreed the Glam stuff really doesn't hold up in any way.
0:49 is that really Bret Michaels or is it Jani Lane XD. and right after that comes Warrant.
Well all good things come to an end at some point
My Days. Memories Memories !
I think after 85 rap took over maybe because I’m in Cali but rockers you had find them even grunge it was up tread in rock but you really didn’t see it unless you went to a gig
Most of the grunge bands are dead. It wasn’t that long of a run for them.
30 years on guns and roses play Glastonbury,motley crue Wembley, rock will always live
Something Metalheads and “grunge” listeners had one thing in common and that’s hating the cheesy and tight spandex wearing hair metal bands lol
I will never understand why ppl stopped wanting to have fun. 80s metal was fun, it was an escape. Then all the seattle bands were crying and bitching about how life sucks..waa its raining...waaa we want to be depressed and sullen...waaaa....Ya life does suck sometimes but I dont need to be told that in my music when Im trying to escape it all and have fun
You can only ignore real life for so long. There was bound to be a backlash at some point. You should be happy now though, because we're in a similar era of escapism with modern pop music. I don't like it, but it does certainly call back to how things were in the 80s.
GNR is the best.
So did Grunge also destroy Cindy Lauper, Duran Duran and Tears For Fears and give us 4 Non Blondes and The Spin Doctors?
Sorry, but the 80s were simply better.
Hair metal was straight trash and by far the worst music to ever become popular. So glad Cobain put the nail in their coffin.
I agree, the only Glam bands I really like are Motley Crue, Wasp, and early Ratt. Other than that it all sucked.
More like the decline of post 2010 music that calls itself whatever. I went back to 1980s, 1990s metal. 💩ify and no one else can prevent that either. I buy CDs.
cornballs
Umm
You have in 90's death and black metal
Grudge was depressing self loathing shit
God bless grunge. They destroyed these silly ignorant truck drivers.
Apart from Appetite there's literally not one of those band's albums on any great album lists while Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and AIC do. They were shit bands based on strippers and hairspray
I got 2 words : Kurt cobain
Thank god grunge for killing this stupid genre
Bite your tongue junior.
@@jannorris4140 pop hair metal sucks
For real 80s rock was the worst shxt I ever heard.
Grunge sucks
ikr, gladly my dad back then was into Thrash Metal Megadeth, Slayer, etc. He said only listen to this stuff and stay away from gay metal band haha. So good riddance
Hair metal (i.e. Chad Metal) > grunge
It was a fad
NU METAL KILLED 6 MILLION GRUNGE BANDS 😂🤣😅😆
Nu Metal killed good rock music.
@@LandonAPerson JUDE 🕎
Grunge died a way long time ago back in mid 95. Stop this crap.its 2022.
I know bro grunge music cant even inspire anyone to pick up an instrument and learn it. On the other hand, glam/hair/sleaze inspires you musically to pick up an instrument and learn it.
@@Gamer25ize You're so wrong dude jesus.
@@Gamer25ize are you deluded? i’m sure a lot of people would rather play smells like teen spirit than cherry pie or any glam metal song 😂
@@tryingggg1251 yea you are right, because playing glam metal songs require certain level of ability on the instrument unlike smells like teen spirit. It's not everyone's cup of tea.
@@Gamer25ize i’m very certain that smells like teen spirit has influenced a lot of people to pick up a guitar
besides, songs don’t need to have crazy guitar solos or anything too technical to be good! if people like simple stuff with easy chords then that’s what they like, it doesn’t have to sound like a seizure manifested itself into a song lol
80s hair metal was some of the most idiotic, trash, pop BS in the history of metal. It was beyond corny and i still cringe hearing these dudes speak.
Like all kinds of hard rocking music,,, credit where credit due,,the so call hair metal bands puts on better live show then listening to heroin addicts lumberjack mumble on stage
Brenda? from Beverly Hills?