Rock Legends DESTROYED by Nirvana? Their Reactions…
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“That was great because it got rid of all those guys with hairspray and leotards. Then Kurt came in like a phoenix and cut them down like wheat before the sickle. 'You are DONE.' I particularly loved his music. When one of his songs came on it just hit you - it was so good and there won’t be any more." -Tom Petty
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Hey, even Tom Petty isn’t immune from saying dumb stuff every now and then.
…”I loved him. He was amazing. To me Nirvana was the most significant thing since The Beatles”.
@@hellsunicornGTFOH go puff up your hair and dust off your leotard lol. Tom Petty got it right. Kurt brought it back to Tom's style of music instead of perms and make up
And now those bands are back and Grunge is nowhere.
Layne Staley's interview was about In utero not Nevermind...💀
That’s what I’m saying😐
Based on a true story
This was terrible
Yeah, and the song is Heart-Shaped Box
Kurt such a nice guy what he said about MJ was so respectful...
MJ? Mötley Jam?
@@paperoverflowMichael Jackson
GNR suffered because of Axl not Nirvana
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@user-ix7ik1yp5o
No it's not. So he was the temperamental lead singer, Who cares? That's also what brought GNR. All the way to the top. You and your friend here need to buy a clue together
Lol according to Slash, Duff and Izzy they left because of Axl
No, they suffered because they immediately forgot about everything that made Appetite for Destruction so successful. The Use Your Illusion albums were a bloated mess.
@UrbanMonkey55
Use Your illusions was their White Album, like they said, and though I was a convert to Appetite For Destruction I very much loved those too, especially Estranged.
Don't presume then to be speaking for the all of us.
Guns N Roses still filled up stadiums after Nevermind. They imploded from within. Grunge didn't hurt them at all.
Exactly. Guns were bigger at the time. At least until Kurt checked out. Millennial revisionist history makes me laugh. They want Gen X culture to be their own so badly because their era of music is nothing but fabricated pop stars. I get it, I’d be that way to if the big stars of my coming of age were Taylor Swift, Gaga and Kanye
@@Spooky_515nah, there was tons of great post hardcore, punk and emo music in the 2000s.
@@Spooky_515lol. Cute. GnR begged, BEGGED Nirvana to tour with them. GnR was obsessed with Nirvana and Nirvana didn't care about them at all. It's clear who was done and who was shining like a diamond. I get it, when you grew up listening to motley crew and warrant, you'd be desperate for a better story. Sorry grunge showed the world just how bad your favorite bands really were.
It’s a myth nirvana killed off all these bands and big 80’s bands. The terrible ones they did acts like Bon Jovi , guns n roses , def lep were all still selling out shows and having big album sales. Nirvana were brilliant and nevermind is a classic but they never hit the heights guns did or could sell out Wembley stadium like Bon Jovi did in mid 90’s. They were mostly an arena band. Great band , grunge itself was amazing but it came and it went pretty quickly.
G n R moved forward and had real talent, it wasn’t all about hairspray and lipstick.
It never affected Pantera. I feel like 80s Metal was already on its way out and the 90s grunge scene was just another scene that music labels could exploit. It didnt take long for grunge to die either.
Pantera wasn’t hair metal or glam or pop metal. That were brutal so they had nothing to do with getting eliminated
@@nicholaskruger9460 Pantera started as a glam metal band.......but didn't have the chops to write bluesy hard rock....they evolved into something different. You'll notice I didn't say "better".
Funny thing is it didn't affect the Big 4 thrash like Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax, and made them even bigger, but almost all other from the thrash scene either broke up or changed sound.
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@@gx1tar1erOh yes it did, have you actually listened to Anthrax’s Sound Of White Noise, Megadeth’s Cryptic Writings or the utterly terrible Load albums? The only band in the Big 4 that didn’t have their sound directly impacted by the 90s “alternative” craze was Slayer, and even they struggled to keep things going in the mid to late 90s.
nevermind is such a masterpiece
One album doesn’t make a career
Bleach and in utero ares better
@@botboy6977lol. That one record started a bigger career than almost every other album ever released. You sound pathetic.
@@botboy6977 Have you heard Bleach?
@@MrChristbait been awhile, I do like the unplugged album
Nirvana Forever💯💥👊🏽🔥😎
Im probably in the Minority here but i Loved both the illusion albums & Nevermind at the same time back in the day. I understood they were different bands with different styles but i could appreciate both styles of Music.
The feud between Grunge & Hair Metal was totally created by the Media. Some of the bands got into it but most just wanted to write music and tour.
AIC shouldve been in rock n roll HOF button👇🏻
RnR HOF should burn down. The Pistols all not showing up when they got indicted was the best. I remember Jonesy saying they still had to drop like 10K a plate to be there and it grossed him out, lord knows what Lydon had to say bout that haha. Jonsey years later said on his radio show that he actually wanted the award so he could sell it on eBay lol
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@@mattkess3156 Yeah big difference there huh? 😄
When I was growing up, I liked music of all of these bands, mostly of Gnr and Nirvana. I had no idea there was some clash of styles or whatever, it was just good music, evoking somewhat different emotions.
Kurt was an artist. Rose was a performer.
“Kurt was a junkie. Rose was a real vocalist with some ego issues.”
Fixed for factual accuracy.
@hellsunicorn
Was also tremendously creative and innovative in what he put out there
@@Vibeagain Creativity and innovation are kinda relative. Personally, I don’t put ripping off the chords from Blue Oyster Cult’s Godzilla and setting them to the rhythm structure of Boston’s More Than A Feeling falls into either category.
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Rachel was right 100% in his analysis. Lots of Nirvana copycats stagnated the market and ruined it.
Sixx talking about fashion is hilarious
In the early 90's a lot of established musicians disregarded "grunge music" as being a passing fad that would soon disappear, when in fact it was "hair bands" that were the fad. They needed something to blame for their failing album sales and decreased popularity, and NIRVANA made for the perfect target. There's not one bad track on Nevermind, and it changed rock music forever. But how long did they actually think that their stale music and teased out hair and lipstick was going to last? Were we going to pay for songs like "Unskinny Bop" forever? Hair bands died of natural causes.
Both were fads my lad....but hard rock always lives in one form or another. Many of those glam bands are playing stadiums or arenas. Other than Pearl Jam I can't think of another one of the grunge bands that is still capable of even filling a theater.
@@MotleyLand I can't disagree with you there, you're right. With all of the overdoses and suicides, there aren't many bands left who made it out of that "grunge" era unscathed. I should have made it more clear that my comment was focused on what was being said as those styles of music were colliding. But, regardless, you do have a good point.
Mötley Crüe’s 1994 was and is an amazing album.
I think it's the most thoughtful and interesting music they ever made.
No doubt their best. Shoulda kept going with Corabi.
Mother Love Bone which basically turned into Pearl Jam, and Alice in Chains both were hair bands before they made their. Soundgarden and Nirvana were not. Now I wouldn't say Mother Love Bone was exactly like the hair band were talking about in this video, but it was sort of swaggy rock and roll along the lines of guns n' roses more so than warrant or Motley Crue
Mother Love Bone are different imo they sound like a band straight out of the 1970s specifically Aerosmith with a punk edge to the overall sound.
Many of the so called grunge bands started life as glam rockers.....
@@ernestt5703 yes agreed
@@MotleyLand They did but sounded different as well. It’s easy to tell when something is original or just copied. There is no band that sounds like Mother Love Bone. You can name as many hair metal bands as possible and they don’t have the same vibe.
Andrew wood started the sarcastic humor the grew in the 90’s. He wasn’t being serious when he was giving shout outs to all the people in the back while performing in a small club rather than a stadium. Also Apple was a transitional album that was never heard due to Andy’s OD. Due your research if your going to make comments as if you know what you’re talking about. MLB’s sound would’ve evolved no different than soundgarden or AIC
My uncle was their original drummer. Unfortunately for him, he got kicked out shortly before the made it big.
He was Great drummer. Can you share some cool stories?
nikki cannot be talking about fashion movements lmao
Right?! Lol Yikes 😬
Kids that became Nirvana fans..were the little Brothers and Sisters of the Heavy metal kids in the 80s.. same thing happened to Rock in roll When the Beatles came on the scene. All those 1950s kids had little Bros and Sisters😂
Thats the problem with music industry. Always on rivalry. Not supporting all bands. Making bad opinion to other bands just to destroy reputations of other bands.
First time I saw "Teen Spirit" on MTV, I thought to myself "These guys combined Black Sabbath with REM". Weeks later, everyone on the street was wearing flannel and Docs. Kurt was proud the wave of grunge rockers made the misogynistic 80s bands look ridiculous. He even laughed at how they all tried to catch up by wearing flannel in their videos.
What are you talking about? Find clips with him speaking about it? So unlike Kurt to toot his own horn publicly. You really should spread your assumptions as fact
@@Spooky_515He was talking about Bon Jovi wanting to dress like Nirvana for their video
@@Spooky_515 Kurt took giant dumps on the 80’s lame bands all the time. In concerts and interviews. You may be too young to remember the early 90’s but I encourage you to look into Nirvana interviews. They are hilarious
Lies.
@@patrickreichert1442lies.
One common mistake, Nirvana didn't kill anyone's career. The music that came out from bands like Motley Crue ect... Was just bad music.
i dont believe the music was bad necessarily I just think by the end of the 80s a lot of the most popular rock bands had the same feel and it began to get repetitive and fate changed things for the better
And all these hair bands like Motley and Poison are still making music while Cobain is long dead.
I remember reading somewhere that due to the corrupt practices in the recording industry, each band member of Nirvana made a total of like $40,000 for Nevermind. That's crazy to me.
That’s the way the major labels have always done things, which is part of why WASP’s The Crimson Idol ended up being a semi-prophetic prediction of Kurt’s downfall. Kurt and his buddies made a deal with the devil when they hooked up with David Geffen, and to this day most Nirvana fans will die on the hill of defending Geffen Records because of their role in ushering in the so-called grunge wave. No matter what musical movement you throw in with, the label executives will be there to take their obscene cut of the profits. It took them 10 years to turn the LA sleaze scene into a commercialized joke, they did it with grunge in less than 4.
Really góod bands could mostly survive. Metallica, GnR, ac/DC, Ozzy , and others survived. Grunge helped filter out a lot of crap. Still really love that first Poison record though.
And guess what Poison is still making music while Cobain is dead.
as someone who grew up at the time, granted it was a little young but was really into music when that happened, 80s hair metal hit a wall because it was all the same, it had become formulaic at the time, the youth of that time were tired of that sound and what it stood for, we wanted something more raw, less polished and meant something more
Same. I found most of it a little too soft and generic. Grown men dressed like women looked silly to me.
Eh, which album(s) were Badlands’ Voodoo Highway, Extreme’s Pornograffitti and GnR’s Use Your Illusion albums copying again?
"Hair Metal", is actually a derogatory term, coined by 80's Thrash Bands, as an insult to Glam Metal...the actual subgenre. Nirvana, and Grunge, didn't kill anything. The 80's were all about having a good time, and enjoying life. The 90's brought in a time of change: angst, depression, despair; self loathing became the "new norm". The 90's were the hangover from the 80's; nobody wanted to have good times anymore. Glam Metal killed itself, it imploded...nothing to do with Nirvana or Grunge. Guns n Roses co-headlined tours with Metallica, a year after Nevermind was released...but they destroyed themselves, as well. Nirvana and Grunge didn't kill anything, they just added to the flavor. 🤘🏻
It's funny because everyone was sold on Nirvana because of Smells Like Teen Spirit. It was the Come as You Are video that sold me. I was 10 spending the weekend at my mom's because my parents were divorced. That video came on, and it blew my mind. I was like, "holy crap! This song is amazing!" I had the Nevermind cassette the very next weekend 😂
I was more into Alice in Chains. Korn. White Zombie etc.....And I love the 80s. Every decade is their own thing. I don't know much about the 70s, but i imagine it also was a great decade 🤘🎵
All I can hear when you make the sound you use every time you change subjects is Kurt saying, "Moderate rock" lol
Sadly music now is just like the 80s mixed with early 2000s music with no real substance. The music that was coming out in late 60s through the early 70s had substance just like the 90s did. Just be glad when lyrics have substance and a message again instead of just being like bubble gum.
How isn't 'Hairspray Queen' not mentioned in this vid?
Love 80's metal - all genres...love Nirvana, and AIC is still killing it! Pearl Jam?? Not so much - sorry. You can like music without a label on it.
My heart is still stuck in the 80's though!!
Nirvana was just a trend like every other band.
For some people it didn’t age as well as expected, I’m included in that category.
Nirvana was like the pop sensation of the time and less of a rock band in the grand scheme of things.
Mentioned is Alice In Chains, but not mentioned is the fact that they started out as more of a hair metal type of act and by the time they actually recorded Facelift, were transitioning into more of the grunge movement and sound. I feel they stand apart from most grunge acts, but still fall within. But with that being said, even on some of the earliest demos of some of the songs that would wind up rerecorded and on Facelift, you can hear the hair metal sound a lot more (in both the music and Layne's vocal delivery). I don't know what really came first, the chicken or the egg, but at some point they became the AIC everyone knows. I don't know if the grunge movement had a big impact on their change or if it happened organically, but jeez, I'm sure glad it happened. Layne's voice is still great on those early demos, but it really evolved fast... the goat. RIP Layne...
RIP Layne Staley. Gifted tortured and a brilliant heart.❤
Nothing lasts forever but I really enjoyed both eras. the 80’s hair metal as a child and the grunge stuff as a young adult. Ton of great music.
yeah i think cause nirvana created a new genre to the new era 90's, and I thought it was amazing
Forever NIRVANA 🗿
The thing is all these guys had their moments in time and they made more than enough money doing it. They didn’t need any more than that every era ends and something new comes along same happened to grunge too.
"Heavier Than Heaven" Book by Charle R. Cross
I think it is interesting to contrast the Hair Metal bands complaining about The Seattle Sound killing their careers while the American Hardcore Punk bands, most of which never really even had careers generally have positive things to say about Nirvana and Nevermind.
Thanks, Kurt.
With Grunge, audience made shift, majors cashed. It was buzz in late 80s allready and alternative buble exploded in early 90s. Except Grunge, wider audience shift also to Hardcore here Biohazard, Dog Eat Dog, Life Of Agony, Skate Punk here NOFX and Rancid, and more. People wanted Metal also but more extreme and serious like Pantera, Sepultura, Machine Head and Death Metal,. Slayer was still going strong. I went in to music like that by simple: I heard it me like It. That 80s Glam Rock it didnt catch my soul.
I love all the bands mentioned in this video. It’s all rock and roll at the end of the day.
But it's not though, elvis presley is rock n roll, buddy Holly is rock n roll, the 50s to mid 60s was rock n roll
@@bazcrowther8205 Your point is?
Lol I refuse to believe that Kurt really liked motley crue music
Nirvana didn't hurt anyone! They just had their great style like no one else in their era!
Guns N' Roses wasn't destroyed, or even diminished by Nirvana. The music video for November Rain came out 5 months after the release of Nevermind, and it still debuted #1 on MTV's most wanted, and went on to be the most requested video on MTV, ever. It is also the first music video on UA-cam that was released before the advent of UA-cam to reach 1 billion views. It currently has 2.1 billion views compared to 1.8 billion views for Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Amen
I agree with the comment that bands jumped on the Grunge wagon and saturated the sound. Record companies found a way to squeeze the juice out of it like a lemon and then you're left with just a peel at the end.
A little bit of both. Like anything popular it was gonna fizzle out eventually.
With Nirvana, grunge definitely overpowered rock in the 90s. Rock didn’t disappear but people were immediately drawn to grunge. The sound was powerful, captivating and unlike anything that had existed before. Nothing wrong with that; it was a great experience.
I feel all talked out on this subject i was born in 1982 grew up to rock, there was a time in the 90's where you could hear such a diversity of music hair bands, the talking heads, janet jackson, metallica dr dre snoop dog, and nirvana, pearl jam, alice in chains but also kick start my heart and dr feel good, and even haddaway's what is love it was a beautiful and perhaps the best time for music EVER why did they all try to mingle together to sound the same and ruin it for everyone most blame cooperate overlords
Nirvana revived metal.Promiscuous hair metallers bit the dust and new musical landscapes were brought to light. May Kurt rest in peace, for he was a good and righteous man and also an innovative artist
That Crue album with Carabi was the one that was worth a damn
Yeah, “Too Fast For Love” is a great record.
The day where music is pure. MTV was so cool before.
Before grunge. There was an ongoing feud with trash metal and hair metal. Then grunge was counteract by brit pop. Rap metal ended by the post emo.
Alice in chains was hair metal before but they've perfectly shift to grunge.
Dont forget that Alice in chains facelift album was out a year before nevermind. And also Stone Temple pilots album Core. Those two albums are a Staple in the alternative Rock sound in my opinion. It changed everything.
Nirvana, Alice and Chains, and Soundgarden - all really amazing bands - no comparison there
It was the media and the bands themselves that killed hair metal
Look at Chicagos Enuff Z nuff once they got labeled a glam band, it was hard to redefine there band to a more original rock sound because the change to Grundge was also to spite hair metal
I was subscribed to Columbia House as a kid and had a lot of the Hair Metal, Grunge, Thrash, Rock, Metal, and even some Hip Hop. I didn't care then and I don't care now, I listen to what I want. Not what's the fad at the time
GNR could have weathered the grunge era they were that big. They imploded within. If you were doing something different from glam rock like Aerosmith, Tool, GnR, you had a built in fan base. At the height of grunge Aerosmith’s album Get a Grip sold 20 million copies in 1994. The bands like Poison, Warrant, Winger, Motley Crue etc are the ones who got flattened by grunge.
Lumping def leppard in with hair band isnt fair to them. They started with the bew wave of british netal way back in the late 70's
Are nikki seriously gonna use copycat as an argument, his name, his style, the music that he wrote were all straight up copy and paste.
Your docs are lame. So many errors. Phil Collins is different than Phil Collen. Not the same name, Einstein. Layne Staley was talking about In Utero, not Nevermind since it's a September 1993 interview. And Def Leppard's successful album was 1988's Hysteria, like the song that's playing under the narration, NOT Adrenalize. They were REELING after the death of Steve Clark.
I think hair metal would have fallen any way. Just like the haze falling away from the 60’s so too would it fall away for the late 70’s through the 80’s. I think Nirvana just helped them find the out door a little quicker.
Good music is good music emotion, truth and artistry will always persevere if a song is good honest and passionate it will be well received if your doing something because someone else did it everyone knows it's called selling out
If you're good enough. You go the distance.
All about talent. Grunge seems to be more versatile.
Staley wasn't talking about nevermind he was talking about in utero.
I think if all the Rock N Roll bands just sticked to what they did the won't of fell down the charts nearly as fast as they did when they started blaming Nirvana and start trying there style.
Some 80’s metal bands are still touring and filling up Arenas. Where are all the grunge bands? 😂
if most of the grunge bands were still around they would still fill arenas.
@@Kolbert224 no they wouldn’t, that’s why they’re not around.
@@stixxnstonerz3450 nirvana has 31 million monthly listeners on spotify. thats more then nearly all 80's bands
@@stixxnstonerz3450and most grunge bands are not around because people in the band are dead.
lol when the 80s bands said that it was a fashion thing, made me laugh!!!
Nirvana
Steel Panther (if you know you know 🥰) covers AIC sometimes, so…
Look at you Nikki Sixx at the beginning of the video! He knew it. We needed a saga...
Honestly Dr. Feelgood is a banger, you should check it out. Like, the whole album.
When Kurt said Nevermind "sounded like a Motley Crue record" I think he had this one in mind...and while Kurt thought that was a BAD thing, I thought it was a fantastic twist to add that sheen on top of Nirvana.
nice
Everything is cyclical. Grunge was just raw garage rock made by musicians with a lot of time to practice.
Motley Crue grunge cash in attempt? LOLOLLLL man those guys stink. So weak. All those 80's bands were cheesie. The tides turned and their time was up. Authentic and interesting bands came to the forefront. Plus Kurt was an incredible talent. Nirvana was the real deal.
Bro Dave Grohl dressed up as Michael Jackson💀💀💀☠️☠️☠️
and pantera were still doing their thing through 90's and were ok with grunge scene cuz whatever for whoever
Record companies killed hair metal by flouding the market by making bands be like what ever is popular at the time and milking it till its dead. It kills creativity. Thats why bands will never be how they used to be and they all sound the same. just my opinion.
I think around that time of Nirvana it was a culmination of different things to cause Hard Rock to fade out. Metallica had hit their peak with the Black album, Pantera really starting to hit their stride, I think people just wanted to look for something more heavier or gritty, Hard Rock was just not delivering that anymore. GNR was starting to implode and their anticipated release after Appetite for Destruction had too much filler tracks and lot the same level of aggression.
Music evolves and people’s taste changes. Grunge suffered the same fate in the late 90s.
Kurt was as politically correct as it was at the time. He stood for the riot girl thing, was left leaning, didn’t like anti gay stuff or womanizing
He also was pro-family and pro-2nd Amendment. Not very left at all there. He was . . . Kurt.
He wasn't left or right, he just said what he thought was right
Next, let's hear how they affected the punk scene.
There was nowhere for the hair metal stuff to go. It had run its course and that’s why grunge was able to fill that void. The music was just better and the image more authentic.
It only affected the bands that were copycat wannabe’s or washed up with no new good ideas. Everyone still loved Motley Crue man!! They just stopped making good music. I still crank up Shout at the Devil to 11. Every time!!
Music is all subjective - listen to whatever the Fek you like.
You make an excellent point here! I like Nirvana and listen to them every day.
@@jackiecote203 there ya go! Easy😎👍
They didn’t like Kurt because he took the other band’s audiences
Is Wendy Dio Ronnie James Dio in drag?
Honestly, real question what’s the weird AI Kurt situation on the cover here? That’s not a real picture
I was wondering
Motley crüe a heavy metal band 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 oh boy.. glam rock maayyyyybe
Yea the gas was already there Nirvana was the match and a great band
10:10 Political correctness? Kurt Cobain? Nirvana? Are you joking or what?
All the heavy bands passed Grunge because they were not part of a trend. The hair bands got it the worse because they were a trend!
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Metal really got going in 1978, the 80s were dominated by blond wigs, spandex, and make up, but there were still guys who never changed and were just metal in the 80s.
In the fall of 1991 Nirvana arrived.
Metallica realesed the black album that year.
Pantera was touring for cowboys from hell.
Metal has too many sub genre's, they were always there.
Grunge was only from 1989 to 1996.
It was a 7 year phase.
Then there was a few years of experimental alternative bands, then metal came back into the light around 1998.
It was never one against the other. Music just changes over time, and so do the record sales.
I like nirvana but man in the box brought me to grunge. love GnR hate Axel , love The Crue hate Nikki , love Nirvana hate Courtney , love Chains hate my ex wife . lol