Atelier Ryza - Is it a good starting point?

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  • Опубліковано 4 чер 2020
  • CC is available if you can’t decipher my mumbling.
    Only six months later, right guys? H-Hehe, right...?
    music:
    ▶️ Atelier Ryza OST - The Island of Silence
    ▶️ Atelier Ryza OST - A regular every day
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  • @TripleSMoon
    @TripleSMoon 4 роки тому +163

    I live for that long pause after, "thank you," and before, "so much for watching."

  • @sippyboivergil9198
    @sippyboivergil9198 4 роки тому +268

    Sophie: *Makes a well constructed video detailing Ryza's suitability as a starting point.*
    Me: "Yo the main girl's dummy thicc tho."

    • @FlutterSwag
      @FlutterSwag 4 роки тому +30

      "Chubby chubby... cheeks"

    • @Vortex945
      @Vortex945 4 роки тому +6

      👀👀👀

    • @Link10103
      @Link10103 4 роки тому +11

      Wallets already open, credit card number inputting..

    • @ajakks6551
      @ajakks6551 4 роки тому +5

      She got that Chub.

    • @nvrmltice
      @nvrmltice 4 роки тому +14

      Don't worry, back in the days I literally pre-order it 'cause Ryza is super hot, even if I didn't know anything about Atelier. I don't regret it, 10/10 would recommend

  • @Phinion
    @Phinion 2 роки тому +10

    Thank you for making your videos available again.
    They've brought me much joy in the past, and I hope will find much joy in the future.

  • @BrightRF
    @BrightRF 8 днів тому +1

    truly a shame that this channel is dead but to anyone who wants to try out ryza
    DO IT!
    Ive played this game as my entry title and instantly fell in love with the series
    Moved on to older titles bit later and felt more engaged by experiencing how much the systems differ from game to game
    ryza being simple is great to get a feel for atelier itself. and i believe that moving down from that point is best
    (firis is my favorite)

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 роки тому +107

    So it's basically a series that is focused on the adventure aspect? I think you've just convinced me to try it out, nice analysis.

    • @Zora3y
      @Zora3y 4 роки тому +11

      no, alchemy aspect is hat series is know for.

    • @cptmudcrabiii5511
      @cptmudcrabiii5511 4 роки тому +12

      To say that you're a man of culture would be rude. You literally watch everyone XDD

    • @onionninja7580
      @onionninja7580 4 роки тому +6

      CptMudcrabIII he is a man of many cultures

    • @chadhardt6136
      @chadhardt6136 4 роки тому +2

      and its very chill and light-hearted, if Atelier was a music genre, it would be some lofi music you listen at 4:00 AM, when you are questioning your life.

    • @cristianmanquilef1437
      @cristianmanquilef1437 4 роки тому

      Atelier games are chill games with nice characters and alchemy, they don't have great histories but they are very enjoyables.

  • @MrMartin27
    @MrMartin27 4 роки тому +4

    "And save the world if you're feeling frisky", i have no idea why but that just made me laugh.

  • @frankbits
    @frankbits 4 роки тому +33

    It’s really nice to hear your voice again, hope you and Escha are doing ok!

  • @minoid
    @minoid 4 роки тому +70

    Ryza is certainly uh, I'm gonna go with "interesting", as an Atelier game.
    As someone who started with it, I really enjoyed it and found myself starting a play session and before I even realized what was going on, the sun was coming up. I found the alchemy system really addicting and that general flow of going out for materials, making things to make more things, then running out to explore more and use those new things I made while I'm at it. So on, so forth, it's fun.
    That said, I eventually finished it and hopped into the Dusk games not long after, as of now I've finished those and am working my way through the Mysterious games. And man, I dunno; for some reason I've just found myself liking Ryza less as I've gone on.
    I think a big part of it is the alchemy system and my issues with it largely mimic what you brought up in the video. I think in general I found the system less... expressive, I guess? The system felt very restricting going back to it, especially compared to what I'd grown used to in the Dusk games.
    That's not to say Ryza is lacking in other areas or anything either, I think the environments are downright stellar to look at and the explorative feeling the game gives is really something all it's own, not just within Atelier but JRPGs as a whole. It has this very child-like, adventurous vibe that makes every trek from the hideout feel way bigger than they probably should have been.
    Though, I think for me the older games just have more to offer. I'm generally more fond of traditional turn-based combat, and the more free-form, albeit less newbie-friendly alchemy system felt great to finally get down. I really felt something having mastered it, to an extent. I could keep going on and on for a while about this game, but I think my point has been made. All-in-all I think the game is still very solid and I'm absolutely interested to see what Gust does next with the series, but a part of me is definitely going to miss the very specific charm the older games have that I've found myself falling in love with.

    • @saifchowdhury7062
      @saifchowdhury7062 4 роки тому

      I played the much older Atelier Iris games years ago and they were good, as you've played a lot of Atelier games, which is your favourite so far?

  • @pr_ank_sisters
    @pr_ank_sisters 4 роки тому +23

    Most soothing voice in youtube by a long shot.

  • @epicgamer2727
    @epicgamer2727 4 роки тому +8

    Sophie single handlely keeping this franchise alive.

  • @caio2k23
    @caio2k23 Рік тому +1

    Wow, time passes so fast. Thank you very much for making your videos 'public' again. I guess this is definitely the kinda channel I'll have to somehow download some videos from so that in 10 to 15 years I could show my daughter some games and reviews I used to watch.

  • @tntxgoodin
    @tntxgoodin 4 роки тому +80

    Probably one of the most important questions is, does Sophie have the cat ears on?

  • @Strider_Shinryu
    @Strider_Shinryu 4 роки тому +53

    As someone who really just dabbled with the series before Ryza, which I really enjoyed, I can definitely see where this video is coming from. Personally I've always found that the "over complicated" synthesis/crafting held the series back for me. I would get into the story or characters but then would run into, essentially, a puzzle game that just kind of ruined the flow for me. The synthesis in Ryza felt important but simplified enough to feel like it fit more into the flow rather than being a brick wall you'd occasionally slam head first into. It really is a different focus than in the rest of the series and despite how much I enjoy Ryza I haven't really felt tempted to go back and play more of the earlier titles in the series. I would say it's more of an Atelier game for people who just haven't been able to get into the series rather than an introduction to the series as a whole.

    • @daggerthedragon1582
      @daggerthedragon1582 4 роки тому +3

      I see your point and completely understand! However, its when you start to complete multiple games and starting New Game + a few times that the Alchemy system really starts to shine. It is so huge and complex that at first it seems intimidating; But around my third title it became my favorite part. Eventually I got to the point where I was just skipping ever scene (already had watched them all) and I would spend hours just crafting the perfect bomb or the ultimate weapon. I believe Gust and Koei Techmo did this on purpose to keep players engaged throughout the series well into 100+ hours. The alchemy system is something that has been tweaked and perfected throughout the series, and to "retcon" it is a huge risk for the series. (I Have not played Ryza, this is just my opinion about the synthesis system as a whole.)

    • @_mako
      @_mako 4 роки тому +10

      @@daggerthedragon1582 To be honest, if a person is having trouble enjoying even their first playthrough of a game in a series, it's kinda unfair to expect them to complete multiple playthroughs of several games in the series just to learn to enjoy the main aspect of the series.

    • @daggerthedragon1582
      @daggerthedragon1582 4 роки тому +2

      @@_mako Hmm fair point. For me this never hindered my experience, only made it more enjoyable as I learned the nuances. However, many people could lose interest in the game as a whole due to initial intimidation or confusion.

    • @ShinkuDragon
      @ShinkuDragon 4 роки тому

      @@daggerthedragon1582 while true, you never really needed to make the perfect bomb or the perfect equipment in previous games. You could beat the game with very simple alchemy.
      For me though, what drew me was the very idea of how customizable alchemy was, how i could spin my own twist into items and make what i wanted. So for me alchemy was first, everything else second.
      But cute girls doing cute stuff and saving the world is always nice.

  • @teelor221
    @teelor221 4 роки тому +20

    Keep up the great content :)

  • @Dominichunter5
    @Dominichunter5 4 роки тому +7

    While it might be a hard pill to swallow, Ryza's increased emphasis on exploration and combat over alchemy makes it a much more balanced and dynamic game that a greater number of people can enjoy, and it's monumental success is proof of that. The "niche appeal vs. general appeal" conflict is always a bitter one, but I think the current trajectory GUST is on is the correct way forward.
    Honestly, I'm just glad Atelier isn't dying anymore. Sales numbers leading up to Ryza had me sweating...

  • @ignatiusxmiku
    @ignatiusxmiku 4 роки тому +18

    Well Ryza was my first atelier game and I absolutely loved it.. Ryza herself making the playthrough really enjoyable as she really is that lovable a character. She works hard for what she wants to achieve, she grew a lot as a character by the end of the story and hey she is absolutely cute. Of course though I end up playing Atelier Lulua after and.... I don't have the motivation to complete Lulua. The Alchemy style is so much harder, I find Lulua to be not as compelling a character as Ryza.... Its true that while Atelier Ryza got me an interest in trying other atelier games... It gave me quite a huge culture shock to the point I don't feel motivated to complete the rest of the game

    • @_mako
      @_mako 4 роки тому +4

      Maybe you'll enjoy it more if you stop thinking of it as part of the same series as Ryza. I know that sounds silly, but if you take the older games for what they are rather than expect more Ryza from them, the cultural shock might not be so harsh. I only started enjoying the series when I stopped comparing it's watered down combat and storylines to other JRPGs that I usually play, and started playing the games for their alchemy systems.

    • @TenchiHawkwing
      @TenchiHawkwing 2 роки тому

      And this is why I say Ryza is NOT a good starting game. Too different from the rest.

  • @Rocker21344
    @Rocker21344 4 роки тому +1

    It makes me so happy that you present your ideas down the middle. None of your content feels biased and helps people feel well informed about everything
    Also say it louder for the people in the back "if you end up liking just Ryza and not the older games, you're not in the wrong in any kind of way"
    Like yaaaaas thank you

  • @loudradialem5233
    @loudradialem5233 2 роки тому +2

    I want you to know that you are the person that made me interested in this franchise! You are a great content creator!

  • @qrowthebird7496
    @qrowthebird7496 4 роки тому +3

    Started with Ryza and enjoyed it for the few hours I played of it,but went to Sophie and I found myself enjoying more, thank you for introducing me to what has become of my favorite series

  • @benkoops7866
    @benkoops7866 4 роки тому

    I was waiting for you to make this one, glad to see you did it. Although by now i have already finished it, i really enjoyed ryza. Any content from you is always welcome :)

  • @MunkMunkPlays
    @MunkMunkPlays 4 роки тому +1

    gonna be playing this real soon! thanks for the recollection of this!

  • @FlickTakFlakAttack
    @FlickTakFlakAttack 4 роки тому +66

    That's why Atelier games come in trilogies: they've got 3 games to get it right :) Here's to hoping the alchemy returns to form in the sequels!

    • @Dante1282
      @Dante1282 4 роки тому +7

      "returns to form" imho Ryza was one of the better ones since firis.

    • @PowderedNuts
      @PowderedNuts 4 роки тому +1

      I enjoyed the alchemy in ryza alot more than most of them

    • @_mako
      @_mako 4 роки тому +1

      Considering how well Ryza sold compared to the older titles, I doubt gust would wanna go back

    • @RyuLightorb
      @RyuLightorb 4 роки тому +1

      @@_mako which sucks as it was dumbed down :( i hope it does go back

    • @PowderedNuts
      @PowderedNuts 4 роки тому

      @@_mako To be fair tho...You can kind of contribute a large reason for those sales being her uhhh. Many assets and various amounts of online art sharing platforms

  • @MoonOutful
    @MoonOutful 4 роки тому

    I love all your videos, but damn, Atelier just fits with you. You truly are the Atelier-Queen of UA-cam :D

  • @GrmDark
    @GrmDark 4 роки тому

    I always enjoy ur content. Keep it up Valkyrie👍

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 4 роки тому

    Such a great idea for a video, thank you!

  • @gloryhound
    @gloryhound 4 роки тому +5

    First of all I want to thank you b/c your videos got me into this wonderful, charming series. I completely agree with you. I tried to use Ryza as a starting point but soon got the feeling that, although it was a fantastic game, it didn’t represent the series well. It made me worried that I may not like the other games if Ryza was my intro, so I went back to the Dusk games and then played Ryza.

  • @mobileshaman2364
    @mobileshaman2364 4 роки тому

    The Dusk trilogy remaster was coming up around the time of your last Ryza videos release, which left me wondering which was the better starting point. This was great for seeing what to fully expect from each of them Thanks

  • @NovaZero
    @NovaZero 4 роки тому

    This is the kind of honest thoughtful opinion that I come around to check for. Thanks for this.
    Because yes I was wondering whether I would actually buy this and add it to the list of stuff I need to get through and play.

  • @neuro0060
    @neuro0060 4 роки тому

    I find myself fascinated by the BGM. Magically pleasant.

  • @apokaliptoh4709
    @apokaliptoh4709 4 роки тому

    I'm new to the series, with that said I'm enjoying Ryza :) thanks for the content

  • @ildathet
    @ildathet 4 роки тому +3

    Bless you for this video; i was asking myself this question for a moment and thought of it today.
    Gotta need to finish blue reflection though

  • @Brandon_Allen00559
    @Brandon_Allen00559 4 роки тому

    Your voice makes me feel weird tingly feelings. Seriously though love the channel keep up the good work,

  • @RedxApollo
    @RedxApollo 4 роки тому +2

    man I never get tired of that intro

    • @Chaiberry
      @Chaiberry 4 роки тому

      By any chance do you know what the intro music is?

    • @EveLusiana
      @EveLusiana 4 роки тому

      @@Chaiberry I want to know too :(

  • @Lillymu961
    @Lillymu961 4 роки тому

    Thank you for making this video about Atelier Ryza. Something about it really intrigued me and I decided to watch a little bit of a playthrough of the game, then bought the game that very day. (Got a fabulous discount on it too, which made my whole week last week.) I started playing the game yesterday and I have to say that I am really enjoying it so far. It's just what the doctor ordered! :) I probably wouldn't have checked out anything from the series if not for your previous Atelier videos and especially this one talking about Ryza. So thank you very much, Sophie! You're amazing!!! :) God bless you and your family. :)

  • @odogar2738
    @odogar2738 4 роки тому

    I fond out about these games from the music and I am really exited to play the older games then trying out this one, thanks a million for this video, now I have a better idea on it!

  • @ajakks6551
    @ajakks6551 4 роки тому

    I was waiting for this and also after playing it, it was pretty fun. Now I need to get Atelier Sophie.

  • @Alpheus_09C
    @Alpheus_09C 11 місяців тому

    I love it, it's my first Atelier game that I finished, my first game I got a platinum for, and most of all it's got ryza. Im an Atelier fan now

  • @Pythonissam
    @Pythonissam 4 роки тому +3

    Right when I woke up perfect timing

  • @Weiss_Hikari
    @Weiss_Hikari 4 роки тому

    I’ve been wondering about picking up this game. Thanks for the video.

  • @shutter-chan
    @shutter-chan 4 роки тому

    Two things I love the most about the game is the bgm when you're roaming around the world and the summer feeling of the world itself. I've never felt so mesmerized in a virtual world like that in a video game.

  • @user-bn1zq6hz5r
    @user-bn1zq6hz5r 2 роки тому +1

    挺能理解UA-camr的想法的,现在绝大多数的游戏都是在牺牲玩法甚至牺牲剧情,提高美术和建模的质量,而且现在这个快节奏的时代,很多人不愿意去花时间研究,也不愿意花时间去思考,都在追捧那些短视频,爽文的刺激。这种前提下,前几作的硬核玩法确实很难安利给新一代玩家了。这作在优质的美术+建模,轻松的故事线加持下,还能让新玩家接触到这个系列,从这个角度来说它是成功的。而莱莎在迎合现代市场的前提下,还能保留炼金系列所有的玩法,均衡上手难度,我觉得很好,毕竟现代的游戏玩家,真的能在这个浮躁的社会环境下,能把一部单机游戏坚持玩下来都是一件不容易的事。而真正喜欢这个系列的新玩家,即使从莱莎入坑,也是会去尝试前作的。像我就是属于那种和这个系列相见恨晚的感觉,小时候获得游戏消息的渠道很有限,而作为一个偏小众的系列游戏,明明承载着我最喜欢的玩法,却一直没有渠道和方式去了解和认识它

  • @claymore345
    @claymore345 4 роки тому

    Queen

  • @TheDwarvenDefender
    @TheDwarvenDefender 4 роки тому

    You're not only telling me that Ryza is Baby's First Atelier Game, but also that it isn't so good that it puts the older titles to shame?
    SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!

  • @Soul-em1qh
    @Soul-em1qh 4 роки тому

    Her voice 🥰

  • @Ali_Rajabi_E
    @Ali_Rajabi_E 4 роки тому

    I have yet to try the series out, but I think I'll be starting with Ryza. Compared to the other Atelier titles, Ryza seems more pleasing to me aesthetically. This video also convinced me to try the game out. Hopefully, it'll prove itself to be a good starting point. Thanks Sophie! Also, good to have you back bunny mom 🐰

  • @jman36x
    @jman36x 4 роки тому

    I've never even heard of this series before this video, which was great by the way. I definitely need to try out one of these games, I guessing from the very beginning might be best.

  • @Shadenuat
    @Shadenuat 4 роки тому

    Rorona+ is best entrance into series imo. Reasonably interesting alchemy (not as complicated as tetris etc.), perfect if you're tired of save the world hero stories, Rorona is a perfect adorable clutz, nice supportive cast. And of course you get good training in playing tight and thinking what you do due to time limit.
    If you like story and characters, then just go Dusk.
    If you want more crafting, go Sophie etc.

  • @lhampic_8840
    @lhampic_8840 4 роки тому +2

    Is Atelier Ryza a good starting point?
    Sophie: Yes and No

  • @pablouvr5490
    @pablouvr5490 4 роки тому +1

    I've been interested in this game, so your video gonna help me a lot to decide if I must play it or not

  • @phantomvox951
    @phantomvox951 4 роки тому +1

    I never heard of this game I’ll play it and What a beautiful voice you have Valkyrie ❤️.

  • @ChrisGildart
    @ChrisGildart 4 роки тому

    Great video. I completely agree with a lot of the points you made. I personally really enjoyed Ryza, but I am more of an action game person. I started following Koei Tecmo thanks to Dynasty Warriors, so the mindless fun of the Alchemy in this game appeals more to me. But I also really liked Ayesha, Escha & Logy, and Lulua. Those were the other three that I dived into and put a lot of time behind. Keep up the great work!

  • @azuraflame1
    @azuraflame1 4 роки тому

    my first attemp at getting into the series was a few years ago with Atelier Ayesha and for various life reasons i never really got into it. i still really enjoyed my time and every couple of years i would think back to it and muse on trying it again but never did. i would say that ryza was my real first attempt and i loved ryza quite a bit. i really want to go back and try the dusk trilogy again but what stops me isn't so much how different the games are but is because of some of the older features from the past generation. like the small corridors with load times in between all of them really started to add up. for me it was the smaller quality of life things that really made it much more enjoyable like the large maps. i still plan on going back to the dusk trilogy when ever i have the time and giving it a second shot but just wanted to add my two cents.

  • @Winnie47f
    @Winnie47f 4 роки тому

    holy shit i literally just got ryza yesterday 🥺🥺 i love sophie

  • @pmcmartin9749
    @pmcmartin9749 4 роки тому

    I loved Ryza cause it reminded me of playing the first atelier games I got into. I played the Iris trilogy and Mana Khemia and I love them I still replay them every so often but I started to fall away from the series with the Arland trilogy because of the time management system.
    It stressed me out so much I got through a single playthrough of Rorona but couldn't get into the other 2 then seeing it continue into the following games really disuaded me from getting the rest though I still watched playthroughs/ lets plays so I could still experience the stories so when I found out Ryza had a calander system but it didn't have much consequence past shops being open/some character scenes I bought it straight away and didn't stop playing it until I finished my second playthrough.

  • @gwyn.
    @gwyn. 4 роки тому +3

    Yay it’s Friday~ Friday~ gotta watch Sofie on Friday

  • @SolideSchlange
    @SolideSchlange 4 роки тому

    it was my first Atelier game and i really enjoyed it

  • @MalMalWasTaken
    @MalMalWasTaken 4 роки тому

    Yes yes yes..I've recently bought a Switch and wanting to get into the Atelier series. Thank you so much for all of the videos. Really really excited to get lost in this series. 😁👌🏻

    • @somechinesedude5466
      @somechinesedude5466 4 роки тому

      I suggest you try on rorona plus
      Its the better game if you want what is this franchise should be played
      Ryza is just boring & aimless

  • @MultiJellybones
    @MultiJellybones 4 роки тому

    I miss hearing your voice and thoughts Sophie

  • @OCAMM
    @OCAMM 4 роки тому

    My first Atelier game that made me go and play Arland

  • @UltimateCarl
    @UltimateCarl 4 роки тому +1

    Whoah, I was actually just yesterday looking at Ryza and considering it after only having played Rorona before. Nice!

    • @guyincognito9484
      @guyincognito9484 4 роки тому +1

      I love it but needs waaaay more sidequests.....it's very close but no classic final fantasy...I found battle system too difficult...

    • @guyincognito9484
      @guyincognito9484 4 роки тому +1

      kinda what grandia 3 could've been...

    • @UltimateCarl
      @UltimateCarl 4 роки тому +1

      @@guyincognito9484 Mm, Grandia 1/2 are some good shit, so I feel you. Thank you for the input!

  • @nohandlemebruh
    @nohandlemebruh 4 роки тому

    Atelier Ryza - Is it a good starting point? Yes. Okay end of video, thanks everyone!

  • @Moggleberries
    @Moggleberries 4 роки тому +4

    It’s hard to find a physical copy in Australian shops so I haven’t played it yet, but I want to so much D:

  • @_mako
    @_mako 4 роки тому +1

    I guess it's the same case as it was for us Iris and Mana Khemia fans. I grew up on Atelier Iris and when I wanted to get back into the series years later, I was frankly disappointed by how different the newer titles were. I only learned to love them when I stopped comparing them to Iris and started playing them for what they offered instead.
    Iris/Mana Khemia and the PS3/Vita Atelier games feel like they're part of different subseries within the overall Atelier series, and it seems like Ryza is starting a third subseries of its own.

  • @calvin10
    @calvin10 4 роки тому +2

    Seems like just make the limitations in harder difficulties, and everyone is happy to me.

  • @devilgamerknight5486
    @devilgamerknight5486 4 роки тому +1

    where have been i miss u alot
    please keep up the good work and stay safe

  • @kaitsutokiyas1617
    @kaitsutokiyas1617 4 роки тому

    Ugh my heart's when I hear that BGM

  • @ribbonquest
    @ribbonquest 4 роки тому

    Previous Atelier games haven't clicked with me the way I hoped, so knowing it has a slightly different flavor is actually encouraging.

  • @durandus676
    @durandus676 4 роки тому

    I spent most of my play time using the alchemy system and all i understand is big number makes bigger number.

  • @tylerdurden2835
    @tylerdurden2835 4 роки тому

    @ValkyrieAurora: if I may make a personal opinion on a technical element:
    English not being my natural language, I was a little distracted on this video by the level of the background music, that was just a tiny bit too high for me. It was harder sometimes for me to focus on your speech, because of the distraction caused by the music.
    Anyway, thanks a lot for your hard work. It's good to have you back. Hope everything is ok for you.
    😘💖

  • @weiwei_30
    @weiwei_30 4 роки тому

    This video is the equivalent of someone going back and forth in buying something

  • @ravoniesravenshir3926
    @ravoniesravenshir3926 4 роки тому

    It was my first Atelier game, and I enjoyed it.... I would love to see a Sequel.

  • @night1952
    @night1952 4 роки тому

    I beat Ryza a couple of weeks ago. It's really a game about the mood more than anything, it's a chill summer vacation.
    I actually felt atached to the hideout but they could have done more with it. I also would have much prefered to be able to play on harder difficulties from the get go since my items and equipment were always overpowered.

  • @RurouniZel
    @RurouniZel 4 роки тому +1

    The thing I love about the Alchemy system in Ryza is that it finally (mostly) fixes the biggest problem I've had with Atelier games from Atelier Shallie through Atelier Lulua - the obtuse "discovery" system.
    I'm going to start from the PS3 era because after a lot of experiments on PS2 they landed on Atelier Rorona and have largely been iterative from there rather than transformative. From Atelier Rorona through Atelier Escha and Logy, the process of learning new recipes was fairly simple; either you acquired them over the course of the story or you bought/found special books that taught specific recipes. But in Atelier Shallie they introduced the Discovery system where the character would become "inspired" by doing some random something-or-other that would cause them to magically learn the recipe. In my opinion, this was always dumb; it was obtuse for the sake of being obtuse. The things you'd have to do were absurdly random; even with the hints it often never made sense. I'd read a guide after I got stumped and think "How the hell was I supposed to think of doing THAT even with the hint?" It really soured my feelings on the following trilogy as well as Lulua because it was always really dumb IMO.
    Atelier Ryza fixed this by making the process infinitely more intuitive and it made more sense by tying it to the game's main mechanic; alchemy. Most new recipes are learned by making items using currently known recipes, with the twist of adding a specific ingredient to the mix to learn the new recipe. This is infinitely less obtuse and encourages the player to engage with the alchemy, the main point of most Atelier games. It's not always as easy as that sounds; sometimes the ingredient is hard to find or requires an item you don't know how to make yet, but at least I'm not wondering what I even need in the first place. I know what I need, it says I need "Alchemy Fibers" or whatever. I may not have those yet or know how to make them, but at least I know *what* I'm looking for.
    As such I feel it's a much better system than what Shallie through Lulua have offered.

  • @lazyduck7904
    @lazyduck7904 4 роки тому

    I’ve been waiting for a gravity rush episode for the longest timeee

  • @JJG1666
    @JJG1666 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this. Still hoping I could play the earlier Atelier gamss especially Escha & Logy.

  • @tri1937
    @tri1937 4 роки тому

    I actually just platinum this game a month or so ago. this was my first atelier and it was fun as hell

  • @punidrag0n
    @punidrag0n 4 роки тому

    i love ryza. it's one of my favorites. but part of me was hoping for an alchemist tent like in firis because of the adventure aspect of atelier ryza. i definitely get what you mean when you say "the alchemy holds ryza back." i personally recommend this to friends as a starting point due to how easy it is (i mean, it's the only atelier game i got the plat for). that being said, ryza is in my top 3 of favorite atelier games.

  • @pheelbanana1646
    @pheelbanana1646 4 роки тому

    By now, Gust co. should really be sponsoring you

  • @richie616
    @richie616 4 роки тому

    When you finally clear a game from your backlog... only to have it reappear there once again.
    Great work (as always!), Sophie. You were right about the time limits being a factor in earlier titles; that was the one aspect of the series that kept me from trying it out sooner, and one of the main reasons I was drawn to Ryza so much. Yet the alchemy was less a part of the gameplay here, too, and that -- as you pointed out -- can be a rather big drawback.
    At times, it feels less like an Atelier game and more like a pretty Tales-like game that has an alchemy mechanic tacked on. I loved the game, but it does clash a bit when contrasted to the older titles.

    • @charlestrudel8308
      @charlestrudel8308 4 роки тому

      as for time limit, lydie and suelle dont have a time limit before the 6th as I have read somewhere... only chapter 6 have one and its not a difficult one at all, I'm pretty sure other games in the series exist that are even more relax than this one.

  • @dsierra16
    @dsierra16 4 роки тому

    I LOVE YOU SOPHIE!!

  • @MichaelCovel92
    @MichaelCovel92 4 роки тому +1

    I think what you said makes a lot of sense. You enjoyed it less (to a degree) because it lacked some of the stuff that originally brought you into the series. This, however, is exactly why it's actually one of my FAVORITE Atelier games. I first started playing with the Atelier Iris games on the PS2. I played all 3 and really enjoyed the Mana Khemia games as well. So when Rorona was released on the PS3, I got really excited. Unfortunately, I wound up being pretty disappointed. This was the case with almost all of the Atelier games from Rorona till now. They all went HARD on the Alchemy and item crafting, but really missed the mark on the story and characters. I didn't find my self yearning to know what happened next and I didn't get attached to or care about the characters. And that's totally fine, because that wasn't their main goal. Ryza was the first one (with some small exceptions here and there) in a long time that gave me really fun characters and an interesting plot. It all depends on your preferences I suppose. Though I do admit, you're right, it tried to give you the best of both worlds and wound up coming a tad short.
    Still a stellar game in my opinion though. Great work on the video!

  • @Rashak17
    @Rashak17 4 роки тому +1

    I feel Ryza's alchemy system still has quite a bit of complexity to it and can require a bit of thinking, but it only becomes more apparent on higher difficulties which become accessible only after the first playthrough. I think it might have been intentional, alchemy doesn't require too much effort on the first playthrough, but becomes a thing to consider when challenging a more difficult second playthrough. I actually liked that a lot, since that combined with no time limits means i could figure out all the little nuances of the alchemy system with no pressure, whenever i felt like it. Meanwhile, it took me 2 tries to get into my first Atelier game (Rorona) because the system confused me a bit at first. Once i figured out the system and increased my efficiency with some methods i discovered during my first time, I felt like a god of alchemy. This was satisfying I admit, but it was still a barrier i had to try to overcome twice. With Ryza, i didn't feel the need to learn the system, more like I really wanted to and that's satisfying as well in its own right. Overall, I'd say Ryza might be a good entry point based on my experience, though, unfortunately those are the only 2 Atelier games I've played as of now. I hope i am able to try other entries in the near future.
    Also, it was because of your videos that I found out about Atelier so thanks for showing me such a great series :)

    • @pahtosh
      @pahtosh 4 роки тому

      If you liked rorona, you should really like meruru, despite its blander cast. This game is rorona on steroids.

  • @giomartino6
    @giomartino6 4 роки тому +1

    Ok yep there's thiccness here in excess 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @chatea
    @chatea 4 роки тому

    I get your point about being "misled" by how much simpler synthesis is in Ryza compared to older entries. To me then, it boils down to which is kinda the "lesser evil" to hook people into Atelier series.
    Ryza being my first foray into the series, I'd say that its a good thing Ryza's synthesis is "simpler" because to me, someone who does not play much "crafting" type games, I did not find Ryza's synthesis to be that simple. FFXIV's crafting being my only prior crafting experience.
    But all-in-all, I really enjoyed Atelier Ryza and imo, it is a good starting point for those interested in Atelier series. It's like getting your foot in the door, and continue on from there.

  • @ImMicku
    @ImMicku 4 роки тому

    Can you do a review of the alchemy systems / time system of all the entries of this series? i suggested a friend to start on Rorona and he very much liked the alchemy part but could not bear the time limits even if he completed the task very quickly

  • @Hambs23
    @Hambs23 4 роки тому

    Although I didn't finished it yet, I liked Ryza. Out of all the Atelier games I've played, which are Annie (Didn't finish), Mana Khemia (Didn't finish), Ayesha, Escha & Logy and Shallie (Didn't finish), Ryza is probably one of my favorites overall, but the alchemy really is a step back compared to the Dusk Trilogy (it still is more interesting than Annie and MK).
    As you said, while there is a focus on adventure, for some reason the group refuses to move on away from their town. Even when they say they'll leave the town for real and go on a adventure, they still go through a bunch of requests made by the townsfolk. Ayesha had more of an adventurous feeling while still being a very "root" Atelier game.
    If I got to praise something about Ryza is it's character interactions. For the first time in a long while in any game I've played, the main characters actually do significant progress on their own objectives without the help of the player, even if that progress never really affects gameplay, just story. And the cutscenes + some side quests that show this progression don't feel like they're shoved down your gut.
    It's leagues above in terms of "quality over quantity" compared to Shallie for example, where every time you finish a quest there's what feels like 20 cutscenes where nothing of worth happens. They help you know the character's personalities and how they interact with each other, but they all feel the same and you never really get to know any of them besides their quirks. Ryza has a lot of cutscenes as well (probably not as much as Shallie), but they're much better spread out between quests and exploration, and because there's less "important" characters you can better see their development without feeling convoluted.
    I've made this comparison before and I still agree with it, but Ryza is like the Monster Hunter World of the series. There's a lot of polish in the overall presentation and a great deal of care to bring newcomers to the series, but it kills some of the aspects that made the older titles so good. They're both great games on their own, but they feel like spin offs rather than main titles.

  • @ScotterationRetard
    @ScotterationRetard 4 роки тому +2

    I just beat it last night and I loved it. But the real question is, who is best girl? Because unlike certain other entries in the series all three options are perfectly valid options, so you can be a man of wealth and taste no matter which you pick.
    Personally my mind's telling me Klaudia, but my body, my body's, telling me Lila

  • @professorJorge11
    @professorJorge11 4 роки тому

    I didn't know you were playing Atelier !

  • @negativitronprime
    @negativitronprime 9 днів тому

    atelier ryza is nice

  • @novadselir1068
    @novadselir1068 4 роки тому

    Characters just passively stumbling into world threatening situations never stops being funny.

  • @JetBlack2024
    @JetBlack2024 4 роки тому

    It’s a good game. It’s way better than the older games combat wise. Loved the music too.

  • @bladedicedragon
    @bladedicedragon 4 роки тому +1

    intro plays:
    me:
    intro: no squeaky
    me: wat

  • @ThoseTentacle
    @ThoseTentacle 4 роки тому

    hope it got dicounted for this year summer sale

  • @kainhighwind2
    @kainhighwind2 4 роки тому

    I've wanted to try the series for a long time, but it's always felt so dense because the series has been going since the Ps2.

  • @2BooG
    @2BooG 4 роки тому

    I haven't played Atelier Ryza yet even though I own all the US versions of the Atelier series since PS2 days, the description of how this game is reminds me of the Atelier Iris series. Where the focus is mostly on combat with hints of alchemy and no time limits.

  • @Zerobasssoul
    @Zerobasssoul 4 роки тому

    Last summer I bought 5 atelier games on a whim so uh ITS GONNA BE AWHILE

  • @thiagolouredo7533
    @thiagolouredo7533 4 роки тому

    I missed your videos. Hope you can do some more soon...or stream.

  • @Exphen
    @Exphen 4 роки тому

    and here we go again with the atelier games...

  • @otooandoh9556
    @otooandoh9556 4 роки тому +1

    From what I gather, it seems to be similar to the split in the fe fan base after awakening. For some fans of Awakening, it’s hard to go back to older titles since it lacks a lot of what the newer fans were drawn to and for older fans the newer games seem overly simplistic in comparison to previous games.

  • @asadpuppy1259
    @asadpuppy1259 4 роки тому

    Never heard of this series of games. Interesting.