Fallout 4 is Peak Firearms Cringe (Everything Wrong with the guns of Fallout 4)
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The power armor should have been designed with an ammo pack on the back and a belt of bullets being fed into the gun from the pack. If the armor was made to carry heavy weapons it should have practical attachments for the armor.
PA should have been restricted way more and there should be a few weapons exclusively designed for PA. In F4 especially, it was just wrong that you could weild small arms with your gauntletted hand.
@@vavra222 this.
Some weapons should be simply too small to be used in PA. IE pistols.
You want a sidearm when in Power Armor?
Punch them. A power armor's speeding fist should deal similar damage to a point blank shotgun blast.
Weapons useable in PA should be weapons that are normally placed in defensive positions or on vehicles like heavy machineguns, miniguns, and light artillery. Basically anything that is heavy and powerful enough to kill buildings.
That said. These weapons should also be useable without power armor. As long you have a Strength of 9 or greater.
@@vavra222 maybe not just flat out restricted but they could use the weapon mod system to where you'd have to decide what weapons you want to use with power armor by adding on power armor specific modifications such as for the laser pistols and plasma pistols grips that could be used with power armor but when outside power armor made them unwieldy lost accuracy take AP whatever.
I'd rather the minigun be modeled with the backpack and belt rather than power armor.
That way, carrying the minigun without PA youd still see where the ammo is coming from.
As for reloads. I have two takes.
1) miniguns have no reload. You fire it as long as you have its ammo in your inventory.
2) miniguns would use 2 ammo types. 5mm for projectiles, microfusion cells to power the motor. The reload is actually replacing the MFC every 500 rounds.
Played so many games and realizing that Fallout 4 is actually more bland than actually "bad" was a big realization. The Energy weapons are still my favorite in the series.
Same, altough the weapon system set up in F4 had so much potential, if it wasnt just a copypasted set of upgrades for 99% of firearms.
They should have made the mods non-craftable, somewhat rare and stronger for that reason...
And they could have done so much more with energy weapons, you know, the whacky FICTIONAL weapons that Bethesda is treating worse than all the slugthrowers.
Fallout 4 is just boring. Everything about it. I love the FO series and played New Vegas to death, but 4? I tried getting into it three times and I never got any further than diamond city...
no its definitely bad, just listen to some of the main quest dialog and you'll realize that "bland" doesn't cut it
@@RimshotKiller reason why mods exists, but that's really on you if you have a PC or just don't care in modding to spice up the "experience"
The game is shit
6:15 actually that is indeed a dead laser pointer. in new Vegas, you can buy a laser attachment which comes out of that weird AA battery looking thing
Isn't the 10mm referenced similar to how the Desert Eagle chambers ammunition, including a locking bolt mechanism of some kind?
Side note: 10mm pistol is a brickier deagle in 10mm, imo.. Do like the bulky look tho.
The ar 15 actually does exist in the fallout universe and so does the b.a.r. the whole of the ncr actually uses what is basically an
m 16 in 5.56
It's basically a M16 with AR-10 furnishing. (to my memory)
@@amhuman5138 Not really. Wooden pre-A2 style. The AR-10 had fiberglass furniture and the handguard was round
@@bobbertbobberson6725 Huh, I've might've been looking at one of the newer reproductions or a modification somebodies done then, thanks for the information!
@@amhuman5138 No problem. Forgotten Weapons has a good video with an original one made on a military contract. Armalite AR-10's in fact didn't even use a normal slip ring. They screwed on from the front and were secured by pinning on the gas block/front sight.
"Hey Hey people-"
"Not today's video, nope."
That little accident made me laugh and I do not know why.
"Can't mess up a double-barrel" Bethesda would like to prove you wrong with the Starfield trailer.
1. The barrels are big blocky squares, cause squares are futuristic I guess. (it looks like the barrel itself would weigh around 12 lbs.)
2. The actual holes bored into the barrel are square but round shots are still loaded, allowing gas to escape.
3. When reloading the rounds are still unfired like they haven't been shot, it's really easy to notice this since
4. The shotgun is loaded with rifle rounds but shoots like it was buckshot.
Bethesda's Incompetence/Negligence knows no bounds.
Actually this makes me want to try creating square shotgun shells and a square barreled shotgun. Theoretically it would feed better in semi auto also since the shells and chamber are square you can load the shells with little cube shaped shot to maximize how much you can put in a shell...
Maybe just some messy early placeholder models, those tend to be a lot more square and blocky.
@@darthplagueis13 It was part of the curated Starfield trailer. The clip with the shotgun was one of the best bits of footage for an ad about one of their "Passion Projects."
Wow, fantasy designs being unrealistic? Nooo, can't be. I'm sure all of that was entirely just incompetence and not intentional design choices to fit an aesthetic.
@@godqueensadie A big point Bethesda's made about their games since around Oblivion is immersion. The shotgun can't be an intentional fuck up, cause it ruins one of the points they supposedly stand for.
It's almost like there is a four part series about a guy going on rants about Fallout's guns.
weird, it's almost like he did a podcast with someone like that.
He already reacted to those dude
Wierd, it's almost like he already reacted to those, dude
that dude is just unlikable and deserve a punch in the face. first he say he hated Fallout 4 , well, he should take a look to the reviews and reflect twice before getting it, the game wasn't that bad actually. it could have been just better on some points. including the weapons designs. he made too much of pause also it's annoying. i know that "yeah he do what he wants itz his channel" but it's not an excuse.
As is being said with various commentators, the 10mm attachment is a laser module and that specific bulk is explained by the lore side of electronics. Micro resistors and 1950's retro design makes typically compact electronic modules inherently bulky. The little gas canister below could be a shielded vacuum tube or other fuse types, perhaps intended for easy replacement.
This is why you research a subject before talking about it
5mm in fallout was a short lived high vilocity assault riffle round that came out before the 5.56 and was replaced by such during the use of the m16 but was brought back in 21 st century for belt fed personal minigun models as its prefered round using down sized 7.62 boxes for its ammo
No. The 5mm in Fallout 1 and 2 represented the 5.56mm, and the game featured both "5mm" and .223 Remington, as separate ammo types. When Bethesda took over the IP they replaced .223 ammo with 5.56mm, and left the 5mm in as a separate ammo type, not realizing that 5mm WAS 5.56mm, and that .223 ISN'T THE SAME AS 5.56mm.
@@ChrissieBear what i stated is from the wiki
@@ChrissieBear your way off for one the 5mm boxes state their a M134 cartridge designed specificly as a replacment of the 7.62x51mm which irl came in just after ww1
thefirst use of 5.56 as a seperate round in fallout was tactics pre bethesda and oublished by the lriginal rights holders
the lore sstates the 5.56 came around specificly to be used by the m16
irl the m16 fires 556 but was inteneded to yse the 7.63 fallouts lore states the 5mm is kept in remodeled 7.62 boxes
ypour just hating on bethesda for the sake of being a hater or a troll
@@ChrissieBear if want actual mess upo fallout 2 then added the 7.62 but changed its lore in fallout its a soviet rounds not an american round un like irl where it is the nato round created by usa after ww1 and made the official nato round in the cold war
14:15 It's TECHNICALLY possible to have a lever-action with more pointed ammunition. The Winchester 1895 is a magazine-fed lever action, not tube-fed. It was made to use, among other cartridges, .30-06, .303 British, and 7.62x54mmR. The Savage Model 99 could be fed from a detachable box mag (Or a revolving mag) and can use a variety of rounds including .308.
Oh no... he says "jif"
STEN's are awesome Sterling's are basically upgraded modernized STEN's but I always wanted a Valkyrie Arms M3 grease gun reproduction.
Funny thing about the M3A1 models is they removed the charging handle and in order to prime the weapon you stick your finger in the ejection port into a recess in the bolt then pull the bolt back with your finger. Also the dust cover serves as the weapons safety as well since when its closed the bolt cant slam forward.
M3A1 grease gun is probably the pinnacle of home made automatic weapons.
38 special (uses smokeless, "modern" propelant) is longer ( it has about the same diameter though ) but less powerfull then a 9x19mm becuase it was made to mimic black powder cartriges so your black powder 38 cal revolver does not blow up when loading a 38 sp, hence 38 special +p was made later on ,
Issue with 10 mm is the original fallout gun its a copy off was a revolver its slide used tonot exist it had a fold down cylinder Revolver sort thing in middle the sight was actualtthe back striker piece of a revolver Thats why its so big it was a cubical revolver design
22:48 Even standing in one spot with a m4, ammo pouch with two 5.56 mags,radio, body armor, duty belt,baton,m9 in a leg holster,and two m9 mags in a pouch after five or six hours gets heavy.
The Fallout NV 10 mm pistol had a lasersight attachement (that could be purchased) that was basicaly just the Underside being of the barrel(the big blocky thing) being made functional and turned ON . with outher guns you added stuff to it, with the 10 mm the laser module was there but it was dead. Also the oversized part was ,I think, to enable easyer use with Powerarmors Big Hands. The 10 mm in Fallout NV (and Fallout 3) was basicaly a combination of a dessert eagle and a MK23 (btw the Mk23 was enourmous, it is about as big as a desert eagle)
Long time NV player here; the laser sight is its own attachment that goes below the front part, replacing the small cylinder but still kinda adds to the weapon's size.
@@DreamyWoIf i did not know it increased the size ofthe bottom cilindre . At least I never noticed it but I guess it is an easy thing to miss
I like for Fallout 4 but I can't deny that the weapons kinda took a downgrade in comparison to Fallout 3 and New Vegas (Both asthetically and functionally).
the Ultimatum 10mm classic is a beauty to behold though. still a chubby gun, but man it looks wild.
Imagine if Bethesda knew at least a little bit about the workings of modern firearms and if they made the mods non-craftable and rare.
@@vavra222 Imagine if they did and just don't care because it's fantasy and there's more to art design than making everything look like an AR or AK
@@godqueensadie and yet new vegas had m16s and still made other weapons that crap all over fallout 4's
here's a thing that i didn't know until recently. you can actually FIND the BAR in fallout new vegas, its not called a bar but when you pick it up you quickly realize what it is (tis found in the dead money expantion)
Oh we haven't even seen the worse one yet. you should totally make part 2 or even 3 as he made a sequel to this video.
Ah yes, the Sten and it's relatives. The 'angry pipe' family of submachinegun design.
oh no, he committed the grave sin to call a Gif "jif" D:
Leaving my shitty opinion here, but FO4 has a LOT of issues. Guns being one of the smaller ones.
The core issues for me, in all Bethesda games are something like this:
- hand-holding (Todd treating you like a stupid, spoiled kid, you get an award for breathing)
- the entire gameworld sucking player off for literally anything (Skyrim - as in anything you do, the game tries to make you feel good via NPC commentary etc.)
- never could truly be bad- more like a misbehaving kid forced to do the good shit by parents
I dont wanna start ranting but these are my biggest issues, too bad Bethesda will never change, they will never make a game that truly punishes you for making mistakes, its always just instant gratification and a sea of loot.
Imagine if everything in Fallout 4 was scarce, weapons, bullets etc.... it would be harder and and time-consuming, but then you slowly start to snowball and feel real good.
Its a shooter RPG that fails at being a shooter and at being an RPG.
@@vavra222 gonna be real, I found almost all the writing in Fallout 4 to just be awful. The entire game is bland, maybe not so much bad. But I stood in line for 3 hours at midnight release and realized 40 minutes into playing it I made a mistake, and since I bought the hard cover strategy guide with the game, I felt like I needed to get something back for my investment. So I did what all sane people do and dumped 2500 hours into it to make myself like it, and all I did was find more reasons to hate it. Sure, I do like modding it (only way its playable).
Most faction quests are not good. I love the Brotherhood, but I hate Maxson. I guess it's cool he's the kid from Fallout 3, but I'm not sure what is supposed to make us care. Being in a new, hostile land and trying to have your best soldier killed because he's not human is really fucking stupid. Danse is more Brotherhood than the rest of them.
Cait and Nick are phenomenally well written and acted companions. As is Dogmeat. Curie feels like a naive little sister, I do not like her. Piper was the cringe of last decade, in fact, on xbox there were mods that muted her and instantly completed dialogue with her.
The railroad is a bunch of nut jobs who would try to liberate a toaster. Deacon (another good companion) talks about how he is a synth, turns out it's a lie, but it seems like Desdemona to brainwash organic humans into believing they are synths that she rescued, just so she can feel some validation in her miserable existence.
We all know about the minutemen.
And the institute, doing far more harm to the wasteland than any amount of good since the bombs fell, trying to replace humanity with machines. I'm sure this is supposed to be a commentary on the real world, but fuck me if it isn't entirely out of place and not well managed.
And then the common wealth itself. I hate it. I don't think it's a good setting for any kind of rpg, let alone post apocalyptic. Even people that live there in real life think it's an awful setting.
And the main story line is so low effort. People are worried about starfield purely out of performance, but none of the shit that made Fallout 4 not good. Starfield is about philosophy (I don't think Bethesda has the writers for that), and who knows how clown school and cartoonish that will be.
@@Elden_Lean I cant argue with that statement, everything you said is 100% true.
@@Elden_Lean this is the result of Emil Pagliarulo still being in the industry. I was blown back by Far Harbor’s writing and to my surprise it was written by the “B” team.
The lefty bolt-action is somewhat of a recurring classic in first-person shooters and ironically, it has to do with the characters portrayal as right-handed.
Because they're right-handed, the gun is displayed on the right side on the screen relative to the players point if view. This means that typically you only see the left side and the cover of the gun. Well, game developers have a tendency of preferring pretty animations over realism and therefore they put the bolt-action where the player can actually see it, that is to say, on the left side.
It's just really weird how they had normal bolts in 3 that you could still see being worked but they changed it for 4.
It also looks like the upgraded stock for the hunting rifle in 4 was built for left and right bolts because it has a little notch for said bolt on both sides of you look closely at the model.
@@theguylivinginyourwalls tbf 3 had pretty rigid blocky gunplay
@@mondaysinsanity8193 Yeah, but my point still stands. Even if you get modded animation, the bolts are still the same. It's more of a nitpick, I know, it's just weird that they did what they did with 4's guns.
At least the gunplay itself was better, though.
@@theguylivinginyourwalls its been awhile so unsure but didnt fallout 3 have that oldschool thing where aiming put the gun like dead center of your chest?
@@mondaysinsanity8193 Nah, 3 just didn't have iron sights unless you were on PC with mods. It just brought the gun up to the "shoulder" next to the camera and zoomed in depending on what gun it was. Irons were "properly" introduced with NV.
I forget the name of the iron sights mod for 3, but it's the first one on my list when I get around to reinstalling the game.
If you wanna talk about slamfire STEN's, you should look into the Sputter Gun.
The long and the short of it is that an American arms seller decided he'd try and loophole machine gun laws about how many bullets are fired per trigger pull by simply removing the entire trigger mechanism from a STEN. So, effectively, you have a STEN gun that you yank the handle back and it simply runs away until the magazine runs empty.
The ATF caught wind of it and went after him, closing things down and ordering him to send out call backs to anyone he sold to, but it ended up not mattering because nobody wanted to buy something that insanely dangerous and useless.
Lmao that’s wild.
@@nathanwilkins6107 And sadly that's not the most dangerous firearm (in regards to the shooters wellbeing) that I can think of in the USA. Look up the Talon T-200, a cheap 9mm pistol that was so terribly designed, it was guaranteed to have the slide blast itself in half and send it flying into the shooters face within the span of one box of ammunition.
@@ZombieBite1991 that seems fine. I’m sure that’s just a minor flaw.
Hell, you can build a lutey from hardware store parts, and they're full auto. Kinda makes you wonder why bethesda didn't just put a lutey in the game.
Because you can build one and they want you to appreciate that crafting system.
@@Skyte100 you can build a lutey in fallout?
The reason Bethesda made all the guns left handed was so the could show off the cycling animation.
The original 10mm pistol from Fallout 1,2,Tactics is a huge 8-12 round revolver. In Fallout 3 & NV the frame of the pistol is copied, but they get rid of the cylinder and make it a semi-auto handgun. The huge frame makes sense to me from a developers stand point because essentially it is just a reused asset.
In terms of simplicity and homemade design, the Sten is actually partially outclassed by the Owens smg.
I recommend that you watch some of RadKing's weapons of fallout videos.
8:38 ssseth jumpscare
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The fo4 carbine thing is a BAR-SH41... A bar ppsh41 hybrid. It has the chassis, stock, and trigger group of 41 and barrel, foregrip, and chamber (when modified) of bar.
There is one cool thing about the minigun that wasn't mentioned; if you put the _shredder_ modification on the barrel (essentially wrapping it with barbed wire and spiky bits) you can spin it up and use it like a giant blender in melee combat
1:38 **Cough cough** ZiP .22 **Cough cough**
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the minigun in Fallout 3 had a Ammo backpack which was a huge crate filled with ammo but you had to reload by putting a Cube of ammo in fallout 3 , honestly the should have kept the ammo backpack but instead going with a belt feed minigun so ammo would be used instead of having a magazin
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I'd recommend trying GTFO, it's a fantastic game, and I really like the weapon design and combat experiences in it
Fallout 4 is not a 'good' game. It has a tremendous number of flaws, it's incredibly glitchy, the roleplay elements have been severely deadened, and the design is just lacking in general.
However; despite all of that, I still enjoyed playing the game. I enjoyed wandering around and exploring. I liked making settlements and building a cool custom home base. I particularly liked that the various junk and scrap actually had a damn purpose finally. Most importantly for me, I loved the weapon customization system. This is definitely more of a personal preference thing, but I absolutely go nuts for weapon building/customization.
Even though Fallout 4's weapon building isn't the most robust ever, and it's a little silly sometimes, being able to build weapons and use them is one of my favorite things.
It's kind of like buffalo chicken; even really bad buffalo chicken is still pretty good.
All of the problems with Fallout 4 didn't stop me from putting a solid 250 hours into the game. It's unlikely I'm going to play it again, but I enjoyed the time I got out of it.
Monologue over.
Also: A followup for the rest of this video would be cool. I'm particularly interested to see your reaction to the fat ugly bastard that is Fallout 4's "Assault Rifle."
I wonder if the next Elder Scrolls will have some of the same systems used in Fallout 4's settlement building? Imagine Hearthfire but you can build your house yourself and more easily decorate the interior.
That's kinda the thing with Bethesda games (note haven't played 76) even when their mechanics and graphics are average or even bad, their world design and world storytelling is still fun to explore and roam around in
If I’m being charitable, I like the building aspects.it’s loads of fun and I turn the Red Rocket Gas Station into a fully functioning base with my actual home being built on the roof my thought was basically creating the feel of a classic Detective Office with some post apocalyptic flair. I also really liked what they did with the power armor because it didn’t just feel like a suit of armor, it was an actual power suit and you could outfit that thing like a car. It was the first decent looking Bethesda Fallout game, the others looked horrible but they were more fun overall. A lot of the core ideas were good but they just flubbed hard on the execution
Fallout 4 had so much potential but it felt rush it like content was cut and reworked for DLC because they need DLC.
I have a feeling that they originally designed the assault rifle to be something used with power armor just due to its size and original is going to have just the Chinese assault rifle or the homemade assault rifle be in the main game but of course that didn't happen
@@clonescope2433 You're actually correct. The "assault rifle" was apparently originally supposed to be a proper machine gun, like it looks like it should be. The suppressor attachment for it has ".50 Caliber" printed on it. So it _was_ going to be an LMG of some sort, but it got clumsily reworked into a rifle, because Bethesda development.
The only thing I can think of (other than sheer Bethesda-brand laziness) is that because of the minigun existing, they decided it was redundant to have two machine guns designed for power armor, so they scrapped the LMG idea and reused the assets.
I'm really happy that you noticed the Browning Assault Rifle parts in the combat rifle, since I recognized the barrel instantly. If I had to describe how it looked I'd say a PaPaSHa's stock and trigger on the BAR's barrel.
fallouts guns are based upon realistic things, which is the difference between Fo4 guns vs irl weird guns. Experiments happen. Failures happen. Screwing something up that you have literally millions of references for? No. it shouldn't happen.
4:51 sooo... right off the bat, question: have you ever seen a deagle function before? cuz this is basicly a deagle, with a dead flashlight attachment
In Fallout 1, 5mm was used for the minigun and the assault rifle, which was some kind of alternate universe AK variant. .223 was also in the game, but was in a hunting rifle, a sniper rifle that was rechambered from .308 because .223 was more common, and the gun from Blade Runner (canonically in Fallout a revolver rifle cut down into a pistol). I *think* what they were going for was that 5mm was a military round while .223/5.56 was a civilian round.
In Fallout 3, .223 was replaced with 5.56mm. 5mm was used for the minigun while 5.56mm was used for the American and Chinese assault rifles. I think for this the logic was purely gameplay mechanics, the game can give you ammo for one without having to give you ammo for the other.
In New Vegas, 5.56mm was in multiple weapons, including the LMG, the NCR's service rifle, and the "marksman carbine". 5mm was used for the minigun, but it was also used in the "assault carbine". Both the marksman carbine and assault carbine are pre-war US military weapons, both are AR variants, and both were canonically used by paratroopers pre-war. 5mm was also a lower damage round than 5.56mm but in exchange was lighter weight per cartridge and innately armor piercing.
I don't think there's a real answer to why both exist and what they're each for. It's just sort of a legacy weirdness of the series.
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I definately like to see a part 2 to this, as well as a part 2 to part 4 of zach's gun rants.
Remember Fallout 3 with the giant ammo crate backpack strapped to your back whenever you equipped in a minigun I miss that I could see two of those Fallout 4 drums fitting into there something for the moders to bring back maybe
I love the fact the he has a seth video on standby and accidentally clicks it at 8:38
The 10mm pistol should've reused the same aesthetics as the one in Fallout 3 and New Vegas. But its still too big and blocky for me as a 10mm.
If they lowered the slide's top to where it _just_ meets the hammer, pull back the barrel about 2 inches to the flat slats on the side to shorten it, get rid of whatever nonsense is in front of the trigger guard, and halve the thickness, it would be perfect.
Hell. From what I can imagine, it looks like a hammer fired, metal Glock.
Pipe weapons would only work en masse in Fallout if the setting is very early after the Great War.
Having it be set 200+ years into the post apocalypse and the previous games having shown civilization to have recovered sufficiently enough to the point that *new weapon designs are being manufactured on a scale large enough to support a small country* makes the prevalence of pipe weapons illogical.
If you really want pipe weapons in a late post apocalypse Fallout game, have them be early game weapons that are shoddily made, low durabilty, low accuracy, better than nothing peashooters.
Small caliber double barrel holdout pieces.
Single shot slamfire shotguns using small gauge shells.
Rudimentary pistol caliber revolvers.
And Sten Gun style SMGs being the most powerful pipe gun type.
The minigun should be slightly smaller but overpowered AF. As well as having a backpack to store its ammo and an enclosed flexible belt housing to feed ammo into the weapon.
Its also the only weapon to make use of two ammo types simultaneously. 5x60mm and microfusion cells (the ammo used by laser weapons). The MFCs being used as a battery to power the minigun motor and is actually the part that's being replaced when reloading. As for the actual ammo, as long as you have 5x60mm in your inventory, it'll feed the weapon. The logic being that its already stored into the backpack.
Retconning the 5mm ammo it uses into 5x60mm as being designed to wreak havoc on engine blocks and vehicles by having armor piercing capabilities and through sheer volume of fire. Which in lore, made it ideal for the kind of combat Power Armor was fielded for. As mobile, man-sized, frontline weapons platforms regularly used against enemy tanks, APCs, and machinegun nests.
The minigun should've also been a weapon only useable with a Strength of 9 or greater (which is granted by piloting Power Armor) due to how heavy it is.
You can still use it without meeting the STR requirement, but good luck being able to walk or hit a building with it consistently.
Lastly, heavy weapons like miniguns should be a placeable object in settlements as fixed weapons useable by both the player and settlers. Needing only the weapon in question, a few steel, and some screws to build it. To fill it with ammo, look at the base and press the interact button and transfer the ammo to the weapon.
The combat rifle in 4 shouldn't exist.
Just reuse 3's R91 assault rifle (a fictionalized G3 & FAL mishmash).
I've been subscribed to several of your channels for almost a year, I'm not sure how much more subscribed I can be.
I think the devs' motivation for the pipeguns were just picking out random people and asking them what they think would a gun would look like if it was made in a garage
*accidental Sseth video*
He's already preparing.
You still have more Zach's gunrants by MikeBurnFire to react to right? I loved his Fallout 4 gun rants lol, i don't remember if you finished that entire video or not but it was classic Zach Hazard.
I like how on the "bolt action" pipe gun, the left side of its wood also has marks from where the autoloading version's side magazine used to be, showing it's a lazy reused asset by Bethesda
didnt mythbusters test the idea that sharp-tipped bullets in a tube magazine will cause a discharge when the gun is fired and they found out that it wouldnt set off?
on an unrelated note, what are your thoughts on the wolf brigade setup with the MG34?
Here are some things I have noticed:
The 10mm pistol I equipped with the most bulky mods possible in-game.
Pipe revolvers are using .45 ammo in-game, which is the same as the submachine gun, also known as the Tommy-gun knock-off. Decide for yourself if that is good or bad, as I am not an expert on guns.
The minigun can be quite strong with the right perks and possible legendary effects. Explosive or incendiary rounds, for example, are possible legendary effects. Portable miniguns without Power Armor is stupid, though.
Again, perks make the Tommy-gun knock-off better like the minigun.
Great video, meedore
What about your "Combat Veteran Reacts" Channel that is over 100k? BTW I'm subscribed to both the Combat Veteran Reacts and MHGR channels and keep making that great content.
31:00 That, and also the powder has less barrel length to burn contained within, so the round will lose power too.
Something you might want to react to: Rimmy is running his "Platoon Olympics" where various groups of people are competing in Arma.
26:30 "You can't screw up a double barrel." Oh Paul you sweet summer child, you underestimate the ingenuity of Bethesda's gun design team.
Good news I've been subed for I don't know how long
So some clarification, the 10mm pistol was meant to be used exclusively with power armor as a side arm
MHGR, do you listen to audiobooks? If so and if you like sci-fi, i would like to recommend "Legionnaire" by Jason Anspach and Nick Cole.
Its a military sci-fi, focusing on the action and i feel like its well-written, it tries to portray a realistic image of a futuristic soldier and the conflicts they fight in. The book and the whole series also shows the inner workings of the fictional Legion, its secret branch and also the politics behind it all (dont worry, nothing from current times).
it's amazing that the subscribe button glowed right when you said subscribe
I believe the bulky...thing on the 10mm pistol is supposed to be a automatic slide unlock. Every time you reload, the slide magically slides back, so I imagine it taps some gas from the round after every shot to power some pneumatic piston that unlocks the slide after the mag is released.
Probably not the truth, but the best option for it to be I think.
In real self loading handguns like a Glock it's the magazine follower that locks the slide to the rear when the last shot is fired. That's likely what Bethesda was trying to imitate, but not being gun people they probably didn't understand the slide doesn't just magically lock back when you eject a magazine. I dunno about a pneumatic system, as modern firearms don't use a system like that, unless you count c02 powered bb guns.
@@joshuabracke5775 I was talking about the thing that looks like it's supposed to be a laser
@@sumvs5992 oh I see. Misunderstood your comment. Your guess is as good as mine on that one.
I'm unsure how something like that irl but in the world of retro future Fallout I suppose anything is possible
Or Bethesda just doesn't know how guns work. Both are possible
4:30 That's not the chamber... The chamber is above the grip. Notice how the shells eject from the top?
I remember only getting as far as entering the institute and doing some more side quests before giving up. Then retrying in survival thinking it would be like NV along with some mods. WTF it's like they wanted to do it like the last two games but smoothed it out to being mindless shooting and Charisma checks.
real quick, the combat rifle and smg are mash ups of irl guns, the cr is a ppsh and a bar, the smg is an m1 thompson and an m1921 thompson. the cr was iirc intended to chamber 5.56 (there a unique variant, December's Child, that comes like so) but that was changed
the 10mm was based on the dessert eagle.
6:14 - I think that's a weight, which would indicate that this isn't a weapon for war, but for competition shooting.
14:49 - Maybe it's supposed to be an internal magazine? ...yeah, I got nothing.
*I* would assume that Power Armors can have pockets that open like car locker to put magazines inside. Then a backpack for the rest.
27:28 that gun looks similar to the world war II shotgun known as the m30 luftwaffe drilling.
Made sure I am subbed to both your channels. Can't say I have a particularly algorithm friendly crazy idea for your 100k subs stream, but maybe give Atomic Heart a look?
I would recommend watching Mike Bs "stupid gun myths" Videos, also you messed up when talking about Kinetic bombardment in your EDF reaction video. The truth is a 24k pound tungsten rod would only have the explosive mass of 4-5 tons of TNT(instead of 20 megatons of TNT like a nuke) The Fat Electrician did a great vid on it that I would recommend watching, also because science.
5.45x45 will not work in a M16, nor will 5.56 work in a AK74
I would like you to continue this video.
Yes! Great to see you watch this
I hope you finish the New Vegas gun rant
Would it be possible for you to react to fallout new vegas weapon jam animations?
There are revolver chambered in 5.56 NATO, .30-30 Win, and .45-70 Gov you probably can easily make a revolver chambered in .308 but it will have to be entirely custom.
Also .38 Special is basically a .357 Magnum but a bit shorter and with much less propellant. For this reason in almost all .357 revolvers you can load and fire .38 special.
The .357 Magnum was essentially supposed to replace the .38 special anyways I think you were thinking of the .32 ACP which was like an old timey version of the .380 ACP
Also in Fallout very few cartridges use the full designation they just a 5 mm cartridge 5 mm by what or .308. Usually the first part of any cartridge designation is the diameter of the bullet so it could be very possible there's some crazy out there in the wastelands who decide to recycle their hunting rifle rounds into pistol rounds for some reason.
would love to see a part 2
You got some crackles on your mic
Is anyone going to tell him how there is a weapons that shoots mini *nuclear bomb rounds* via a *slingshot* mechanism, or a junk jet that just shoots anything you feed into it, as in junk, also there is a weapon that fires gamma radiation that somehow doesn't instantly fry you.
Try to react to these videos:
1) Hentai incident - Campfire stories (by mikeburnfire)
2) Evenicle Review | Wholesome Edition™ (by Ssethtzeentach)
3) C&C Generals Zero Hour | RISE OF THE REDS | Freedom in 30 FPS (by UberDanger)
Yes reloading we all know the stresses of it anybody who's ever played a fun shooter game knows how lethal it can be to reload oh no no the anime is right in front of me why am I reloading
Hey Paul! Can you react to Stonework minecraft golden war part 1&2 ? I think we would get a lot of warfare lesson from you and nobody has done a reaction video on these video so it would be lit to see your reaction. Thank in advance
So for the 10mm pistol the bottom round part in the front is supposed to be a laser sight although it doesn't work (it did in new Vegas) although it wasn't perfect I think the fallout 3 and new Vegas design were much better than the fallout 4 design also the 10mm is supposed to be based of the desert eagle or at least the slide is
Even as large as the 3/NV "N99" was, it still looked normal-ish to hold and fire. It was quite large for a handgun, but the 4 version is just ridiculously oversized to the point that it looks stupid.
Tbh I already hated the gun in 3 and new vegas for how it looked, when I picked it up in 4 I was already pissed at the game lol
@@zeallust8542 like I said it wasn't perfect but yet again the games are old I think if the brought back the new Vegas design with modern graphics made it a little skinny and had the laser sight actually work I think it could make for not a perfect but alright sci-fi pistol
@@supertrooper5673 To be fair, I love the design of That Gun despite it not being very realistic. Im just not a fan of super bulky handguns (even the desert eagle just looked ugh to me). I know That Gun is based on a real gun, its a super weird unrealistic looking weapon I can still enjoy.
@@zeallust8542 oh I see I get were your coming from ja I do agree
Some guns in fo4 look like they are made to be used with power armour like the 10mm a back up for if you run out of ammo or in CQC and I do like it
8:38 my fathers friend was going to give me an old sten gun that didn't work (as a birthday gift) As soon as he gave it to me, my father took it and said "NO!... he'll fix it!"
And he was right, i had the tools to get it working, i would just needed the 9mm ammo for it🤠
IT'S NOT CALLED A "jif"
24:30 What would _kind of_ make sense is if the power armor itself had some kind of an autoloader that feeds ammo to the gun.Still, not practical for sustained fighting, especially when it pretty much takes a full drum of 500 bullets to actually kill anything in the game.
Pretty sure if anyone made a homemade gun of the quality of the pipe guns they would blow their hand off sooner or later.
The original 10 mm in fallout 3 and new Vegas was based on the desert eagle and i feel it’s a bonus it looks like a socom in look
15:54 I think you misheard him, he said you can chamber the revolver in .308, or 7.62x51mm.
for the crazy livestream, show us your chickens
31:12
I feel like most of the critiques of Fallout 4's Guns come down to them being Stubbier and Chunkier than most IRL Guns. It's like some dev at Bethesda has a Shrinkflation Kink for Guns and decided to fulfill it by designing these weapons into The Base Game.
F3: find your Dad
F4: find your son
F5: find your?...Mom?...maybe?
Modern lever actions are chambed for rounds like 223, 308 ect.
As it turns out, a leftie can actually cycle a right handed bolt action very quickly, if you use the correct method. Note how Ian McCollum does it in this video: ua-cam.com/video/ZobRzO4bSS8/v-deo.html
I'm glad there are mods for 4 that rectify the issues I had with the weapons.
Man, that scared the hell out of me. The way you stopped the video and starter saying "Subscribe!Subscribe!Subscribe!", maybe a heads up next time? But yeah, it will look good on the wall.
The highest joules for a 45. Acp is 1124 joules according to wikipedia.
For mike tyson its 1,600 joules
So youre right but not as much as might think
9mm parabelum max joules is 729 joules by comparison
5.56 hits 16-1800
Kind of mad we didn't see the reload animation for the minigun in third person, you pull the ammo out of the back of the gun and put new ammo in
Not even new ammo, you put the exact same box back in lol