Expectations: People jumping around corners and obstacles like they have jetpacks sniping everyone with the Desert Eagle Reality: People just start shooting faster after landing
Community when a 3100$ gun is decent: nooo pls fix it is just op Community when a 700$ one tap hand cannon can shoot better than an m4: yes this is what we always wanted. Also community when a 500$ semi-auto smg has a decent accuracy: noo it is tOo GoOd YoU cANt JuSt ruSh b Honestly people in this game are obsessed of deagle and ak
I've been using the SG 553 since high school (I'm a senior in college) cause I realized it was way better then the AK about 6 years ago. Honestly I can't think of any other words to describe people who played the game seriously and didn't use it as either stubborn or stupid (probably a bit of both). It still is mind boggling how so many people with 1000's of hours never bothered to check if the third T rifle was good or not. There's only 3, you had time to check. Reminds me of that movie MoneyBall where back in 2008, two guys figured out that everyone who played baseball basically had no idea what they were doing.
Also I think you need to mention time to kill in more of your videos. It was good that we got a visual comparison but an actual value in milliseconds for time to kill is so important when comparing weapons. Especially when a weapons shots to kill or fire rate is changed. I know the SG has a lower fire rate now, but I would like to know how much longer it will take to kill compared to the M4. Same for when comparing the M4's to the AUG or the Bizon to other smg's. Just saying that it's damage or fire rate is greater or it does more damage really doesn't say everything. Still love your vids and find them the most informative. Keep up the good work and thanks!
@@franpschorr3646 Yeah ttk is key. Also agree about the SG, like they never changed it for almost 8 years, and now that people are discovering a gun that Valve put in the game, it has to be changed and destroyed? Bruh.
Dude, Mag-7 is kinda shit. I can't even count the times I did a point blank range shot at the chest and take 33 damage. Yeah, you're right about the jump shots, but only if you're really close to your opponent and land a headshot. Otherwise, it's useful at certain situation, but it just feels pretty random
@@МирославКръстев-с7и I can't count the amount of times I've held B aps alone with just a mag7 and nades. It is in fact great at going where you're aiming. Sure, sometimes it messes you up at close range, but I've found it way better if you aim for the chest instead of the head, that way, the spread will hit the enemy more and could even end up headshotting, while aiming for the head could land just 1 pellet, the rest simply missing because of spread.
@@МирославКръстев-с7и dude the mag 7 is so good. you can easily stop a 5 man rush alone on banana inferno as i have done some time ago. it 1-shots to the head most of the time at close range, and ive killed people with it at mid range as well
If shotguns are so op then why no one uses them? Because they are fucking useless and even headshot are not a guaranteed kill. Irl shotguns are op as fuck. They were so good germany tried to ban them in ww1. I feel like gayben couldn't control the knockback of a shotguns irl so he pissed on them in the game
@@Boarhaven It was by no means underpowered. The 1 tap headshot is incredibly strong once you get to higher ranks and know where to aim and it's ALSO able to kill in 2-3 body hits. No matter if you have a long distance fight or close range fight, you stand a very good chance of getting a kill - at least assuming you know where to aim. If you actually think it was underpowered because it took too long to reset when shooting it, you probably spammed it wayyyy too hard or simply wanted to make the deagle incredibly overpowered.
@@Boarhaven nah the deagle is 700 shotgun for quick double taps in a stomach, it defintly needs demage nerf.Imo it should be less usable if you dont go for headshots.
The Krieg is so bad now. It's not even worth using anymore. I've always liked the SG and loved when it was the primary rifle for the Ts but valve butchered my boy.
@@PunchBrotherand they always listen to the greedy part of the community ngl, most ppl who complained prolly use aks like 24/7 and got mad when killed by a krieg, thats literally the point of the krieg to be better than the ak
Not really... The R8 is more of a scout. The Deagle at very long distances sometimes needs 4 or even 5 shots to kill... The Scout at ANY range takes 2 shots to kill. The R8 is the same, any range it's a 2 shooter. The R8 can one tap on the head through the doors mid on dust 2 from T spawn (or from CT mid), just like the scout. The deagle from this distance through walls does minimal damage.
M4 is not a good gun because iT Is NoT A OnE hIt HeAdShOt. Anyway prost are headshot machines that will beat a m4a4 with a deagle because OnE HiT HeAdShOt
U guys just don't understand I think.. If valve wants SG to 1tap headshot people then it should be mooore expensive and not cheaper than m4 if I can't 1 shot with it.. Last game I was playing inferno as CT I peek banana, I had faster reflex, I hit his head for 67 in 1 with M4 for 3100$ and he one shotet me, crouching whole time and zoomed in whole time like total noob with stupid SG for 117 in 1... That's simply not balanced... :-) U play mirage, peeking from ramp doing push 30sec left to the round, smokes everything and guys with AUGs are ducking like tards in smoke on CT, zoomed in, waiting for smoke to vanish... Like 0 brain, 0 skill.. And it's kinda frustrating that skilled players are getting rekt from total noobs just crouching zoomed in whole round and one taping people.. :-) that's not balance, there is no longer beauty of this game, where you actually needed to have some knowledge.. Since it's free to play, I have in 8 out of 10 games team which don't even know what's is ECO round or they don't have any idea of economy in CSgo, they just speaking whole match in whatever language right into the game (why would you download discord etc.) or they have discord but they don't give info into game and it's just a buy every round, sg/Aug, duck and zoom no Kevlar everywhere.. Not even starting to speak about hitboxes sometimes lel.. Before I was LEM now after a long break I am master guardian elite, but you can't get out of it because it's even worse sometimes than gold4.. :-D
@@commandergame but comon Bro.. Difference is that you need actually some skill to hit 1 tap on longer distance with AK as u can't zoom.. And AK is 1 tap/M4 faster rate of fire.. With SG u just duck, zoom, measure where u need to aim and u just wait.. Yes now the SG have also lower rate of fire but still.. Is the same shit as it was with revolver which was basically AWP pistol..
accualy m249 is better then the bizon xD not in terms money effesionsy (prybably miss spelled that) but anything else the bizon used to need 11 body shots or 3 headshot against armored opponent xD
I still can't get over the SG553 nerf. I was using this gun almost all the time since 2015. I always said that it was better than the AK but back then everybody laughed at me for using Call of Duty gun. There wasn't a single game without someone commenting and bellitling me becouse of my gun choice. When pros finally realised it's potential after all those years, i was happy. I was right about this gun all the way back in 2015 when even pro players didn't care about it, and haven't noticed it's potential. I was the original SG player, the veteran of the gun, and that made me feel proud. But i was foolish to think that this was good news. SG has been brutally murdered in this patch. It's worse than ak in almost every possible way now, and i truly believe valve nerfed it way too much. I feel like losing a close friend, and with that gun gone, a big part of my love for the game is gone as well.
@@ultra.based.27 I'm a veteran just like you, always used the SG and the AUG when I started playing in 2014. Coming from 1.6 where they were clearly not a match for the Ak and M4, I was surprised, but in a good way. While the AUG and SG were better, there was still a balance, AK and M4 makes you move faster, reload faster and they are stronger against unarmored opponents, and also, they were cheaper by a flash and smoke/he respectively. There WAS balance. Now? Not anymore... Well, the AUG is still good and useful, the SG however is not. Lost my go to weapon and part of me died with it in this game. I like to rely on my aim to get that headshot, and not on LUCK because of the goddamn AK innacuracy from a distance longer than long doors to long pit.
im so happy that csgo now has a competitor. maybe we will get an actual anti-cheat now. or maybe thats wishful thinking. but i dont think valorant will kill cs for a couple reasons and thats a good thing
Valve's watermark is not careing about the community supporting the game but only about skins and pros that want only AWP AK DEAGLE. Remember that they could as well sell hacks for even more money. its valve nothing is too far for them
sweet video war owl, you should do another series like solo queue to global. That series was awesome and really informative a lot of the time. I was just watching some of your old videos and it was great how much I learned about cs. Hope I can put it to good use haha
I am gonna add more info for the weapons: Sg553: Even with the decreased firerate the gun can still kill faster than an m4 except from an Aug in close range. Because of this it is possible we might see Aug used. The sg still has the scope which still has superior accuracy more than the m4. I kinda like this change because it didn't make sense to have a gun that kills faster than the ak AND has better accuracy. Aug: Like I said in the Sg553 section we might see more play if cts have a lot of money. M4A1-S: This is a really significant change. It makes Ct second round ecos much durable. If you don't get a kill and you full save then third round assuming you had 2050 dollars 2nd round, 3rd round you have 4450. You have to buy a helmet because terrorists might not upgrade smgs. Before you could only afford the m4 and helmet and a smoke. Now you can afford a kit or a smoke and a flash. Deagle: Valve was smoking something here. Now it has same accuracy as the mac 10 in the jump apex. Have fun with you jump deags. Tec 9: Definitely gonna be used more. Cz is crap even at mid range while the Tec 9 has the superior accuracy. Bizon: I am happy that Valve is paying attention to it. However the armor penetration buff was not enough. It still doesn't kill faster than the mac 10 or MP9 and it's more expensive. The Mp7 is still superior to it. The mp5 however is not since they both do almost the same damage. Sorry bizon.
Panagiotis Z it’s fine to have a gun that kills faster and is more accurate, just needs to be priced appropriately. I would’ve like to see the SG get raised to $3400-$3700 but keep it the same.
Buffing the bizon more would make it overpowered. Remember it has a 64round magazine. With more damage you could just spray and get a shit ton of kills
Call me crazy, but I don't think the Tec-9 got that big of a boost. However, the SG 553 has now become useless, as opposed to balanced. It's incredibly unreliable because of the massive decrease of the rate of fire. If they let the fire rate alone, and changed the damage, it would be a little more balanced. 1 hit hs, sure. 25 instead of 30 stomach, and legs.. well, we don't care about legs. (What I am trying to say is, that months worth of aim training with the SG have now been thrown right out of the window. - or out of the map, in CSGO's case.)
I wouldn't be surprised if Tencent was paying 'influencers'... the frequent references to it and fairly glowing preview here has me worried. Plus no mention of the anticheat/spyware controversy...
I've been using SG553 for years, even before skins were a thing. Always wondered why nobody used it. Now I wish people never discovered it, nerf is such a disappointment...
Im probably gonna move to valorant because this comunity is obsessed of 1.6 op guns as are boomers obsessed of jesus chirst the one who will save earth. Ak was op all the time along an people seen it as a good thing. You just can't fairly beat a guy with an ak who knows how to peak angles the ak takes 0 seconds to kill and the m4a4 1/667. You see it at high tier matches.
I love when they do stuff like this. Makes the game fun again instead of pre made strategies made throughout the years. The element of dissolving these strats and giving space to new ones so that they can be used and eventually replaced again keeps the game alive to me
The overreaction on the Deagle buff is so ridiculous. People are talking about how ridiculous it is but I have yet to see anyone actually abuse the new deagle mechanics, since it is very hard to use mid air. You are only accurate at the peak of your jump while not moving horizontally, which makes you a massive target when actually attempting to jump shot with the deagle. Furthermore it is only accurate for very close range. I only see it being useful on Dust 2 A site, since all other common jumpshot positions will just get you shot out of the air. There was a tweet from Ropz who basically said the same. Give it some time and I don't think we will be seeing a lot of deagle jumpshots.
Deagle improvements -Much higher recoil after each bullet. Why? Too many times have I been double tapped in an instant, it can kill faster than any rifle spray at close/medium range. -By the way, it is a 700$ pistol, let's not forget that. There have been times when pros have aced with a deagle against full buys. -More inaccuracy when moving. -Slower movement -There should be about 2s between accurate shots (so recoil is extremely high till about 2s). You buy a deagle (pistol) in an eco, what do you do in an eco? Either play default or rush together. >Default? Watch an angle, if you miss then don't repeak and pick another angle. >Rush? If you miss then your team will be able to shoot the person/people for you. >Also, it is a .50 pistol. The AWP is .50, you can't even shoot with the AWP for a bit after shooting. There are players who only use a deagle in MM, rarely getting one deags but are doing decent frag wise? I wonder why that is.
I like that I left Csgo for like a week for valorant and the deagle replaced the scout, effectively redid the CT side economy, and reverted back to the tec9meister era
My take on the update: I mean I've always used the m4a1-s. It felt better and idk more precise. So I'll keep my silenced m4 with me. I have a cz for both t and ct, now I have a tec-9 and cz. And I almost always used a sg, I hate its spray pattern but still used it. I'll definitely main AK now, I'll use the sg as a scout with a good fire rate, only for specific cases.I will not be jump shooting with the deagle, I've been already killed many times jumping on B on mirage. The Aug is still ok, I sometimes use it, nothing will change in terms of my use of the Aug.
My mind fractured when I saw this update. It feels like a knee jerk reaction, albeit a slow-to-react one, from Valve. The SG nerf has swung far too much to the useless side. It is now back where it used to be - the black hole of ignorance. The Donker...oh, sorry, the Deagle.....nope, it's the Donker now. The Rec9 is back. Stupid change but I love it. Tec9 is fun. Bizon change...hahaha. Go back to Valorant for now Mr Owl. CS:GO is drunk right now.
This was always the weirdest thing to me. I gave CSGO a couple of shots in the past, and each time I found myself drawn to the SG and the AUG and people would always make fun of me, belittle me or just straight up rage that I didn't use the AK and M4 and I eventually just kinda gave up. Seeing them both being used competitively and now being nerfed and touched up gives me a bit of validation all these years later I guess.
People say that Krieg was a problem, how so? When I played, nobody used it, those that did never got their gun picked up by CTs. When I played scrims with friends and watched them play (DMGs+) I seen very little SGs. So I don't understand the nerf
It's annoying how the CT guns are more expensive, they dropped the price on the SG a while back, they should've done the same to the AUG, seeing how for example OFFICE is very T sided, a lower priced AUG would help out the CTs. Either way, not happy about the SG change. Also I've been a Tec9 fan and stuck with it even through its Nerfed phase, glad it's better! And imagine slight gun adjustments, nobody could ever tell! :D
I loved the kek9 but i started to play just after they made the thing useless so it was too inaccurate even when standing still. p250 is way better and i am a proud weirdo for using it.
The death of Valorant may be quicker than you think. Just go to r/GlobalOffensive. There's really nice thread how the Valorant anti-cheat access your kernel, which starts the program immediately after you turn your PC on, even if you deleted Valorant. This causes slowing your computer and (that one is not confirmed) potentially stealing your data. Other thing, wrong about the anti-cheat is (this one has been confirmed) can make a hacker get admin rights on your system just by hacking the shitty anti-cheat. And the irony is that even with so much "security", the Valorant AC couldn't detect 4 cheaters in the beta. Good job, Riot Games!
@@МирославКръстев-с7и eac and battleye use kernel privileges too, have been doing it for years and there were no epic l33t hackers stealing people's data and hijacking their computers btw
@@richardvlasek2445 they load when you start the game and close after. Valorants' loads when you boot, before Windows itself. It's always running and that's the major issue.
Valve: promotes use of non-meta weapon Players: tHis ISnt an Ak or aWP nERf 2 thE GrOUnD Plz Valve: understandable, have a OP jumping accuracy for Deagle
I decided to switch to A1s a day before the patch came and i was very exited but after hitting -97 in 5 hits at pointblink range without any wallbangs i really dont feel like this anymore
I have been saying since around 2014, that SG553 was the best assault rifle in the game ; people called me n00b and silver. I am glad it took about 6 years, and a price reduction, for the "pros" to figure it out. And they did the price reduction on purpose, so people can spam the gun > made everyone aware that the weapon is strong > "ohhh, too strong, let's destroy it completely !". Cause and effect, huh ? I am wondering though, just for...the sake of it ; when will they fucking bring M249 into...meta ? Because that gun is no more than a meme gun (the old negev-like) with that price. They should make M249, 3 500$ (or alright, maybe 3 800$) and see how it plays out. I say this about M249 because...I sort of like MGs in FPS games. :D When will they do something new ? Like, new guns ? Underused guns being placed into play again ?! These back-forth buffs & nerfs they do, like the Tec-9, are getting repetitive. Just like Dota updates. Same heroes that used to have certain skill numbers before a patch, gets it back again a few months later. CS is no different ! And then they, and the people, wonder...why is CS "dying" ? PS: I am still waiting for hostage maps (rework) to be played in pro plays. I am tired of the same, detonation maps, and the same tactics, and the same tricks...that they keep doing it since I started watching pros play in tournaments.
And I forgot to mention, I would say this game 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘥 to be balanced ; these days, I am not so sure. Actually, since 2016 I started having this "vibe". And now I see they re-introduced scout-jumping. Deagle jumping ?!?! Player skins ? I am sorry but I just can't take this game seriously anymore. I just hope the source 2 leak is true, and this will bring something "on the table" for CS GO ; to get me back at it, and motivated.
Lots of kudos for the SC1 music. IIRC not the first time I hear it on your channel but always pleasant. :-) EDIT: 5:26 : even more points for 4/20 reference! Cheers :-)
My guess is that Valve intended this update to shake the meta up super hard and see what falls out. That, or they internally just wanted to mess with everyone for lols.
deagle isnt broken, it's just like jumping with the scout, so not really something you do often because it isn't really that overpowered to jump shoot.
There's two major differences between Jumpscout and Newdeag that make the Newdeag far more powerful. Jumpscout was effective at long ranges, mid at cache comes to mind, meaning the shots attempted were lower probability to begin with, and had less effect on the game over all. Newdeag is really powerful up close, not needing to scope makes it far more viable inside of bombsites, rather than being limited only long distance encounters. This is compounded by the Newdeag having a high jump accuracy during the full jump Arc, rather than only when falling like the Jumpscout. That delay meant that you needed to expose yourself for half the duration of your jump cycle before you could fire. That allowed AWPs to have the upper hand even when the opponent was jumpscouting. With the Newdeag, you can fire at any point in the jump cycle, giving the person with the deag a *massive* advantage over every other weapon in a position like kookli (no idea how that's spelled). Newdeag is going to break CT retakes on Dust II A-site completely. Jumpscout never broke an entire bombsite like the Newdeag will.
Also, the deagle is still a secondary. So if you wanted to jump scout you were stuck with only the scout (and maybe a CZ) for the rest of the round. With the new deagle, you could use an AK or M4 the whole round until you needed to jump shoot, and then go right back to your rifle.
And an ak costs 600$, as much as a glock, which is really good. Also the hk usp is obsolete and famas really do the job irl. 5.56 has better armor penetration than 7.62 and cause worse wounds irl. I would like to see 1911 in game or a decent revolver that shoots like a real one. Im pretty sure people who made this game didn't shoot enough the guns to see how they work.
sg is literally unplayable now and i don't mean that in the usual way, it really is. the fire rate is so ridicously low now, you could as well just tap all the time. the final nail in the coffin for me. :( bye bye, cs:go. it was cool, while it lasted.
My suggestion for Valve would be: Make the M4A4 a one hit kill to the head from close distance. Then I would increase the A1-S's price back to 3,100 and increase the rate of fire to 666 rpm and the magazine size to 30 rounds. In order to not make it too overpowered I'd decrease the damage if you use the silencer. Yes, I know, modern silencers don't slow the bullet down, but it is a suggestion to improve the gameplay, furthermore it would give players a reason to take the silencer off. If 2 players with full health, 1 with an AK and 1 with the M4 start shooting at each other at the same time (bodyshots), the AK guy would win as it takes 0.4 seconds to kill an armored player with an AK (600 rpm, 4 hits) and 0.45 seconds with an M4 (666 rpm, 5 hits). I would increase the Krieg's Firerate back to 666, but severely decrease it when scoped, same for the AUG (maybe even change the firing mode to semi-auto). I would introduce a "new" pistol to replace the glock (like USP-S and P2000): A single beretta. You can buy the second one for 200 dollars, that way players may start using it again. It would be still too expensive to buy dualies if you want to have armor on pistol round, however, if a teammate drops you his because he buys a deagle or something, you'll be able to. In order to not make them too op, the accuracy should be decreased. The single beretta should fire slower than the glock but be more accurate, but not as accurate as the USP-S. Of course, I am no expert and some of my suggestions may be complete trash.
"It's not April 20th yet, Valve!"
I don't think we're talking to a company known for its accuracy with time and date here Kappa
I think Valve just celebrated 4/20 2019
I gave you the 421st like. Am sorry.
Valve time goes both ways I guess.
Kappa
sMokE miD eVerY daY
"Counter-Strike is a well balanced game."
Negev: $1700
M249: $5200
Even with that, there is no one who performed better on m249 than negev.
@@kirshi8492 MP9: $1250
Bizon: $1500
I love Negev and hope they never change that. Such an underappreciated weapon for holding chokes on CT
@@iDatedMyPizza bro you gotta pay for all the bullets you're spraying
Remember the OP Five-Seven and Tec-9 at a measly 500$? Who even needed rifles... xD
6:57 every now and then WarOwl says "Valorant" to scare valve.
Gotta bend 'em to our will somehow, and our only options are fear or fire
It's such a dumb name, tho, I can't even take it seriously.
@@sugipulaboule living in glass houses here
BAU BAU project a sounded better
@@tristanschonhals4416 Would you prefer my name to be Boogie Man? Cause that's what my name means in english.
Expectations: People jumping around corners and obstacles like they have jetpacks sniping everyone with the Desert Eagle
Reality: People just start shooting faster after landing
@Thunderz - CSGO go fuck yourself kid
@Thunderz - CSGO fuck you
no that's literally how it is. People just jumping around sniping people with deagle
@Thunderz - CSGO get caner
McDonalds WiFi dude cancer is old now we have corona chan
Valve: _drinks a bottle of pure alchohol_ "good time to make some balance changes!"
@Thunderz - CSGO fuck you and fuck off with that self promoting bs please thank you
Valve balance team also snorting coke: nice
@Ropsu jeaa
@@eeeecca "heyyy remeemba [almost falls down] whean tha tec nine was over powerrrd...thoose was tha good times.."
@Thunderz - CSGO nice scam bro
"It's not April 20th yet, Valve!"
Ah, but you see, it's April 2020
ahh shit here we go again
@marmaduke 074 can't decide which one is more cringe you saying a meme that's two years old or your profile photo
@@realxtc jesus christ he has massive edgelord energy
@SharkTank *_someone's had too much salt, ey?_*
lol, give this man a scholarship
Next patch: "so we're removing bullets from the Sg553 to make it more balanced"
Exchanged with nukes
Let's remove the gun at all and make the bison hold 5000 rounds in a mag so people will surely buy it now.
- Replaced sg553 bullets with nerf darts (damage reduction to 0.5)
Nah i just hope the armor pen. reduced slightly
KBZ Playz sg needed a nerf though. It’s was stupid quick to kill over ak with the only benefit of having an ak being a faster mobility.
Thanos: Perfectly balanced-
Valve: Hold my Deagle
WHY DO I SEE YOUR COMMENTS EVERY WHERE WTF
@@mm-fh1tw he doesn't have a life.
Hold my notepad
m m Justin Y’s brother
dead meme
Community: SG is broken, Volvo plz nerf
Volvo: haha deagle jump bois go pew pew headshot
Pew pew pew pew pew pew hol up wait a minute it's a deagle 22
Me:"hello, volbo?"
Velcro: "Yee"
Me:"Hakkers will u stop them ok?"
Veltor:"Yee"
Vorlox: *Half lyf alyx sticker pack*
Me:"But vebboooooooo!"
*Cue Seinfeld theme*
Community when a 3100$ gun is decent: nooo pls fix it is just op
Community when a 700$ one tap hand cannon can shoot better than an m4: yes this is what we always wanted.
Also community when a 500$ semi-auto smg has a decent accuracy: noo it is tOo GoOd YoU cANt JuSt ruSh b
Honestly people in this game are obsessed of deagle and ak
@@Wittynametag cs community be like...
I've been using the SG 553 since high school (I'm a senior in college) cause I realized it was way better then the AK about 6 years ago. Honestly I can't think of any other words to describe people who played the game seriously and didn't use it as either stubborn or stupid (probably a bit of both). It still is mind boggling how so many people with 1000's of hours never bothered to check if the third T rifle was good or not. There's only 3, you had time to check. Reminds me of that movie MoneyBall where back in 2008, two guys figured out that everyone who played baseball basically had no idea what they were doing.
Also I think you need to mention time to kill in more of your videos. It was good that we got a visual comparison but an actual value in milliseconds for time to kill is so important when comparing weapons. Especially when a weapons shots to kill or fire rate is changed. I know the SG has a lower fire rate now, but I would like to know how much longer it will take to kill compared to the M4. Same for when comparing the M4's to the AUG or the Bizon to other smg's. Just saying that it's damage or fire rate is greater or it does more damage really doesn't say everything. Still love your vids and find them the most informative. Keep up the good work and thanks!
@@franpschorr3646 Yeah ttk is key. Also agree about the SG, like they never changed it for almost 8 years, and now that people are discovering a gun that Valve put in the game, it has to be changed and destroyed? Bruh.
True the sg (and Aug) were really good. Even today they are ok especially when you need a bridge between Snipes and rifles
I often use p90 since it has a lot ammo to shoot in schools
yes it was overpowered back then but the price makes up for it. it started becoming the meta after price reduction
5:39 "The only other weapon that can do this is the MP9."
*Sad MAG-7 noises*
Dude, Mag-7 is kinda shit. I can't even count the times I did a point blank range shot at the chest and take 33 damage. Yeah, you're right about the jump shots, but only if you're really close to your opponent and land a headshot. Otherwise, it's useful at certain situation, but it just feels pretty random
@@МирославКръстев-с7и totally agree
@@МирославКръстев-с7и I can't count the amount of times I've held B aps alone with just a mag7 and nades. It is in fact great at going where you're aiming. Sure, sometimes it messes you up at close range, but I've found it way better if you aim for the chest instead of the head, that way, the spread will hit the enemy more and could even end up headshotting, while aiming for the head could land just 1 pellet, the rest simply missing because of spread.
@@МирославКръстев-с7и dude the mag 7 is so good. you can easily stop a 5 man rush alone on banana inferno as i have done some time ago. it 1-shots to the head most of the time at close range, and ive killed people with it at mid range as well
If shotguns are so op then why no one uses them? Because they are fucking useless and even headshot are not a guaranteed kill. Irl shotguns are op as fuck. They were so good germany tried to ban them in ww1. I feel like gayben couldn't control the knockback of a shotguns irl so he pissed on them in the game
they shouldve named the update as the 'faze' update
niko got his nerf of sg , got his deagle buffed, olof can shift to tec9meister
Exactly! So Cold can win a Major in his home country :)
Yeah , Just in time
Implying Faze will ever have a good placement lol
pro: are deagles maybe tooo... overpow-
Valve: hey what’s up guys I just buffed the deagle
Previously the deagle was actually underpowered imo, the time it takes for the gun spread to reset is fucking retarded
@@Boarhaven Yeah deagle wasn't overpowered at all. I've kinda been waiting a buff for the deagle.
@@Boarhaven It was by no means underpowered. The 1 tap headshot is incredibly strong once you get to higher ranks and know where to aim and it's ALSO able to kill in 2-3 body hits. No matter if you have a long distance fight or close range fight, you stand a very good chance of getting a kill - at least assuming you know where to aim.
If you actually think it was underpowered because it took too long to reset when shooting it, you probably spammed it wayyyy too hard or simply wanted to make the deagle incredibly overpowered.
@@Boarhaven nah the deagle is 700 shotgun for quick double taps in a stomach, it defintly needs demage nerf.Imo it should be less usable if you dont go for headshots.
Tava SVK I think either it’s firing rate or firing inaccuracy should be nerfed because as of now, deagle spam outputs more damage than an m4 spray
Warowl: "NOW YOU CAN KQLY WITH THE DEAGLE!"
HOUNGOUNGAGNE: *"happy baguette noises"*
*happy wine frog noises*
trée bien °¤°
Me: goes long A
Global elite with deagle: allow me to introduce my self
Reintroduce*
I love how people who used the scopes guns beforehand were called COD players and noobs but as soon as Pro League used them, everyone else did
Even the first creature in this universe didnt even say “First”
Disappointing
Very disappointing
Even
very very disappointing
best comment.
"You should only do slight adjustments to the weapons..."
You mean like when the Negev was turned into a SMG? Or when the AWP costed 850 dollars?
wait there was time when the AWP costed 850 dollars?? /s
@@МирославКръстев-с7и R8 Revolver was a 1 shot to the gut (so 1.25 damage multiplier) on launch.
@@adityan.4744 Ah yes, back when you could buy 2 AWPs. The AWP and the pocket AWP (the revolver)
Now you have a 700$ scout with high rate of fire so the pros can flex on us noobs who can't snap on head in -0,001 seconds again.
@@adityan.4744 xD dude i knew that. that's why i added /s after the joke. But thanks for explaining. Have a nice day :)
"Well balanced"
M4 - 98 in 4 hits...
the same rifle that can't one tap either
AUG 99 in 1
Enemy AK 100 in 1
So aim for the head
Pootis Spencer the m4 shouldnt 1 tap head armor
@@ayushFos Because ct's have the positional advantage, always.
The Krieg is so bad now. It's not even worth using anymore. I've always liked the SG and loved when it was the primary rifle for the Ts but valve butchered my boy.
it was the public who did valve just listens to the community and balances all weapons
@@PunchBrotherand they always listen to the greedy part of the community ngl, most ppl who complained prolly use aks like 24/7 and got mad when killed by a krieg, thats literally the point of the krieg to be better than the ak
yes, krieg feels unusable as a rifle now ngl@@tbrick4970
"Tec-9 baby!"
-WarOwl 2020
Oh yeah techmo9 :]
Oh sh- gonna edit that lol
local youtube commenter invents comedy
Ok, but who fucked with Tec-9?
deagle is just a scout without scope
Omg that's pretty accurate.
R8 is
Not really... The R8 is more of a scout. The Deagle at very long distances sometimes needs 4 or even 5 shots to kill... The Scout at ANY range takes 2 shots to kill. The R8 is the same, any range it's a 2 shooter. The R8 can one tap on the head through the doors mid on dust 2 from T spawn (or from CT mid), just like the scout. The deagle from this distance through walls does minimal damage.
Valve: we have finally removed every gun except awp, ak, m4a4 and deagle
The community: yay
Yeah. I feel like it's evolve or die, and Brent referring to Valorant at the beginning is probably true, or at least partly.
Why does this sound like the perfect game?
@Cute anime girls damn you got that right 😉👍
sucks, that the only map that supports other weapons is inferno. All other maps are just made for 4 guns lol
McDonalds WiFi me and 4 other retards rushing b on dust 2 with negavs:
Reeeeeeeeeeee
"omg a weapon besides ak, m4, or awp is good better fix that!"
Lol CS community never ceases to amaze
M4 is not a good gun because iT Is NoT A OnE hIt HeAdShOt. Anyway prost are headshot machines that will beat a m4a4 with a deagle because OnE HiT HeAdShOt
U guys just don't understand I think.. If valve wants SG to 1tap headshot people then it should be mooore expensive and not cheaper than m4 if I can't 1 shot with it.. Last game I was playing inferno as CT I peek banana, I had faster reflex, I hit his head for 67 in 1 with M4 for 3100$ and he one shotet me, crouching whole time and zoomed in whole time like total noob with stupid SG for 117 in 1... That's simply not balanced... :-) U play mirage, peeking from ramp doing push 30sec left to the round, smokes everything and guys with AUGs are ducking like tards in smoke on CT, zoomed in, waiting for smoke to vanish... Like 0 brain, 0 skill.. And it's kinda frustrating that skilled players are getting rekt from total noobs just crouching zoomed in whole round and one taping people.. :-) that's not balance, there is no longer beauty of this game, where you actually needed to have some knowledge.. Since it's free to play, I have in 8 out of 10 games team which don't even know what's is ECO round or they don't have any idea of economy in CSgo, they just speaking whole match in whatever language right into the game (why would you download discord etc.) or they have discord but they don't give info into game and it's just a buy every round, sg/Aug, duck and zoom no Kevlar everywhere.. Not even starting to speak about hitboxes sometimes lel.. Before I was LEM now after a long break I am master guardian elite, but you can't get out of it because it's even worse sometimes than gold4.. :-D
@@bubbammara i couldn't agree more, you said everything
@@bubbammara Complaining about SG being one shot headshot and cheaper than M4 but AK has that too and costs even less is fine.
You make no sense
@@commandergame but comon Bro.. Difference is that you need actually some skill to hit 1 tap on longer distance with AK as u can't zoom.. And AK is 1 tap/M4 faster rate of fire.. With SG u just duck, zoom, measure where u need to aim and u just wait.. Yes now the SG have also lower rate of fire but still.. Is the same shit as it was with revolver which was basically AWP pistol..
“It fires at SHIXSHIXSHIX rounds per minute.”
Yep, that's the joke.
Yep, that's the joke.
Yep, thats the joke
Can I have some cheese with those fries?
Yep, that's the joke.
"as the worst weapon in the game, the bizon…"
m2: *do i mean nothing to you*
accualy m249 is better then the bizon xD not in terms money effesionsy (prybably miss spelled that) but anything else the bizon used to need 11 body shots or 3 headshot against armored opponent xD
at least people remember the bizon.
@@mohoamine5598 The Bizon is a glock with rapid fire... But costs over x7 more...
It's actually good for one taps. Not worth +5000 thought.
laughed my ass off when I read '5G nerf' in thumbnail image
I still can't get over the SG553 nerf. I was using this gun almost all the time since 2015. I always said that it was better than the AK but back then everybody laughed at me for using Call of Duty gun. There wasn't a single game without someone commenting and bellitling me becouse of my gun choice. When pros finally realised it's potential after all those years, i was happy. I was right about this gun all the way back in 2015 when even pro players didn't care about it, and haven't noticed it's potential. I was the original SG player, the veteran of the gun, and that made me feel proud. But i was foolish to think that this was good news. SG has been brutally murdered in this patch. It's worse than ak in almost every possible way now, and i truly believe valve nerfed it way too much. I feel like losing a close friend, and with that gun gone, a big part of my love for the game is gone as well.
Same
@@ultra.based.27 I'm a veteran just like you, always used the SG and the AUG when I started playing in 2014. Coming from 1.6 where they were clearly not a match for the Ak and M4, I was surprised, but in a good way. While the AUG and SG were better, there was still a balance, AK and M4 makes you move faster, reload faster and they are stronger against unarmored opponents, and also, they were cheaper by a flash and smoke/he respectively.
There WAS balance.
Now? Not anymore... Well, the AUG is still good and useful, the SG however is not. Lost my go to weapon and part of me died with it in this game. I like to rely on my aim to get that headshot, and not on LUCK because of the goddamn AK innacuracy from a distance longer than long doors to long pit.
@@grimm6jack yep, beacuse of that update i quit csgo
the random "valorant" at the end there made me laugh XD
@Abs quatulate I don't understand a single thing you just typed
@@jamieshay7545 me too, i had brain damage trying to read what he just said
SG is nerfed to much. Just decrease accuracy or increase difficulty of the spray. Now it is not only expensive, it also has slow rate of fire.
I can tap faster than that gun shoots now valve fuck you
I think they should increase rof to AK level, to make it slightly better.
They should have just increased the prize. That is it.
Nothing before the intro shot? Inconceivable.
How many times do you want to buff the Tec-9?
Valve: *Yes*
How much do you hate guns that are not awp, ak or deagle?
Valve: yes
"The adults are talking" are you listening to the new the strokes album? haha
It's released way before the singles too
Do you wanna give that sentence another try?
@@jasonday5143 I think he meant to add a "to" in front of "the" and behind "listening", lol
@@tofusrvng Yes, I do, I'm not a native english speaker and sometimes I foreget the need of certain "rules"
No one:
Not a single soul:
TheWarOwl: Spamming legs with dualies is a viable strategy
It worked to spray dualies at head for me.
"(...) what I suggested in my video at mid."
*cut to face*
"Valorant."
Lmao. That just caught me completely off-guard.
I don't get that part, can you explain?
That subtle added yell when he shoos away the Valorant clip is one of those details that makes WarOwl's videos great.
im so happy that csgo now has a competitor. maybe we will get an actual anti-cheat now. or maybe thats wishful thinking. but i dont think valorant will kill cs for a couple reasons and thats a good thing
Valve's watermark is not careing about the community supporting the game but only about skins and pros that want only AWP AK DEAGLE. Remember that they could as well sell hacks for even more money. its valve nothing is too far for them
sweet video war owl, you should do another series like solo queue to global. That series was awesome and really informative a lot of the time. I was just watching some of your old videos and it was great how much I learned about cs. Hope I can put it to good use haha
Petition to make this outro his permanent closer
I am gonna add more info for the weapons:
Sg553: Even with the decreased firerate the gun can still kill faster than an m4 except from an Aug in close range. Because of this it is possible we might see Aug used. The sg still has the scope which still has superior accuracy more than the m4. I kinda like this change because it didn't make sense to have a gun that kills faster than the ak AND has better accuracy.
Aug: Like I said in the Sg553 section we might see more play if cts have a lot of money.
M4A1-S: This is a really significant change. It makes Ct second round ecos much durable. If you don't get a kill and you full save then third round assuming you had 2050 dollars 2nd round, 3rd round you have 4450. You have to buy a helmet because terrorists might not upgrade smgs. Before you could only afford the m4 and helmet and a smoke. Now you can afford a kit or a smoke and a flash.
Deagle: Valve was smoking something here. Now it has same accuracy as the mac 10 in the jump apex. Have fun with you jump deags.
Tec 9: Definitely gonna be used more. Cz is crap even at mid range while the Tec 9 has the superior accuracy.
Bizon: I am happy that Valve is paying attention to it. However the armor penetration buff was not enough. It still doesn't kill faster than the mac 10 or MP9 and it's more expensive. The Mp7 is still superior to it. The mp5 however is not since they both do almost the same damage. Sorry bizon.
Yeah, now SG553 feels much more precise than before
Panagiotis Z it’s fine to have a gun that kills faster and is more accurate, just needs to be priced appropriately. I would’ve like to see the SG get raised to $3400-$3700 but keep it the same.
I would have liked if the scoped accuracy of the sg to stay where it was, but the fire rate dropped
Buffing the bizon more would make it overpowered. Remember it has a 64round magazine. With more damage you could just spray and get a shit ton of kills
Do they have Augs in Valorant? Did you see that pros were playing Valorant between rounds at this weekends tournaments?
Me: Hey, they finally balanced the guns from the game.
Valve: Yes, but no.
Call me crazy, but I don't think the Tec-9 got that big of a boost.
However, the SG 553 has now become useless, as opposed to balanced. It's incredibly unreliable because of the massive decrease of the rate of fire.
If they let the fire rate alone, and changed the damage, it would be a little more balanced.
1 hit hs, sure. 25 instead of 30 stomach, and legs.. well, we don't care about legs.
(What I am trying to say is, that months worth of aim training with the SG have now been thrown right out of the window. - or out of the map, in CSGO's case.)
idk why it took you months you just have to pull it down leaning tot he left
@@kanorcubes329 I am implying that it was my goto weapon, because I had that much experience with it. Not that it took me months to learn it.
Funny how warowl and 3kliks have entirely different theories for why this huge meta change came
I wouldn't be surprised if Tencent was paying 'influencers'... the frequent references to it and fairly glowing preview here has me worried. Plus no mention of the anticheat/spyware controversy...
@@cyberman7348 exactly
I've been using SG553 for years, even before skins were a thing. Always wondered why nobody used it. Now I wish people never discovered it, nerf is such a disappointment...
:(
they just wanted to get rid the sg553 so they can use thier ak again
Good point
Peoplr never change aren't they lol.
Im probably gonna move to valorant because this comunity is obsessed of 1.6 op guns as are boomers obsessed of jesus chirst the one who will save earth. Ak was op all the time along an people seen it as a good thing. You just can't fairly beat a guy with an ak who knows how to peak angles the ak takes 0 seconds to kill and the m4a4 1/667. You see it at high tier matches.
I love when they do stuff like this.
Makes the game fun again instead of pre made strategies made throughout the years. The element of dissolving these strats and giving space to new ones so that they can be used and eventually replaced again keeps the game alive to me
Love that broodwar music in the background
Really digging the Brood War soundtrack in the background Owl!
War Owl's closer is that he has no closer
I like how Valve buffed the Deagle for some reason but not the Revolver despite the clear down sides
The Deagle now is basically a gun for tho who want to be Badass Action Hero.
1:10 someday spamming legs with duealies is actually a good strategy now. Good job warowl
the ct have m4a4,m4a1 and aug. The TT have only Ak, that'ts the point with the sg, it has more variety to the game
But do you think valve knows that.
@@danteangelo9412 no I think it's the "hardcore players" that get mad when any weapon other than the AK, M4, AWP, or Deagle is good.
Warowl: gets a closer
Everyone: NANI
This is the video here i realized that "I stilll have no closer" IS actually his closer
OMG
It's like they intentionally break stuff so they have an execue to come up with updates fixing what they broke and breaking other stuff again
Like in economic politics
The overreaction on the Deagle buff is so ridiculous. People are talking about how ridiculous it is but I have yet to see anyone actually abuse the new deagle mechanics, since it is very hard to use mid air. You are only accurate at the peak of your jump while not moving horizontally, which makes you a massive target when actually attempting to jump shot with the deagle. Furthermore it is only accurate for very close range. I only see it being useful on Dust 2 A site, since all other common jumpshot positions will just get you shot out of the air. There was a tweet from Ropz who basically said the same. Give it some time and I don't think we will be seeing a lot of deagle jumpshots.
Facts I used it I dropped it after 3 rounds because everyone had ak
on mirage i hit the guy(s) snipers from boxes nearly every round.
stop playing on silver dim
@@oppaiyuichan9477 the silver thing to do would be to actually die to someone jumpshotting with a Deagle.
never known about team liquid vs coldzera? stop tryna cover your noob skill. no one cares either
I love how the AK’s ROF is quite realistic at 600 RPM, and now the SG 553’s ROF is 545, when the actual gun has a ROF of ~780
That moment when you realize all this time Warowl saying "I still have no closer", is actually his closer.
What does it mean ? U dont get it
Deagle improvements
-Much higher recoil after each bullet. Why? Too many times have I been double tapped in an instant, it can kill faster than any rifle spray at close/medium range.
-By the way, it is a 700$ pistol, let's not forget that. There have been times when pros have aced with a deagle against full buys.
-More inaccuracy when moving.
-Slower movement
-There should be about 2s between accurate shots (so recoil is extremely high till about 2s). You buy a deagle (pistol) in an eco, what do you do in an eco? Either play default or rush together.
>Default? Watch an angle, if you miss then don't repeak and pick another angle.
>Rush? If you miss then your team will be able to shoot the person/people for you.
>Also, it is a .50 pistol. The AWP is .50, you can't even shoot with the AWP for a bit after shooting.
There are players who only use a deagle in MM, rarely getting one deags but are doing decent frag wise? I wonder why that is.
The deagle should be nerfed as much as the awp but nooo lets not make the boomers that put 5999$ in gambling in this gayme angry
Valve will never learn how to balance the weapons properly without breaking them
Me : started to subscribe warowl
Warowl : my subscriber dramatically improve!
All this time I thought you're saying "I have no clothes on", only now did i realize..
I like that I left Csgo for like a week for valorant and the deagle replaced the scout, effectively redid the CT side economy, and reverted back to the tec9meister era
My take on the update:
I mean I've always used the m4a1-s. It felt better and idk more precise. So I'll keep my silenced m4 with me. I have a cz for both t and ct, now I have a tec-9 and cz. And I almost always used a sg, I hate its spray pattern but still used it. I'll definitely main AK now, I'll use the sg as a scout with a good fire rate, only for specific cases.I will not be jump shooting with the deagle, I've been already killed many times jumping on B on mirage. The Aug is still ok, I sometimes use it, nothing will change in terms of my use of the Aug.
Same lol with the difference that i loved the sg in the last weeks.
sg taken from us too soon. Lost but never forgotten
You had me going crazy with the low volume Starcraft Soundtrack in the background there.
My mind fractured when I saw this update. It feels like a knee jerk reaction, albeit a slow-to-react one, from Valve.
The SG nerf has swung far too much to the useless side. It is now back where it used to be - the black hole of ignorance.
The Donker...oh, sorry, the Deagle.....nope, it's the Donker now.
The Rec9 is back. Stupid change but I love it. Tec9 is fun.
Bizon change...hahaha.
Go back to Valorant for now Mr Owl. CS:GO is drunk right now.
This was always the weirdest thing to me. I gave CSGO a couple of shots in the past, and each time I found myself drawn to the SG and the AUG and people would always make fun of me, belittle me or just straight up rage that I didn't use the AK and M4 and I eventually just kinda gave up.
Seeing them both being used competitively and now being nerfed and touched up gives me a bit of validation all these years later I guess.
Waiting for the day WarOwl says "I'm the WarOwl and I finally have a closer"
The tec-9 changes make a lot of sense, especially considering how much better the USP is than the glock, Ts now have a decent gun for pistol rounds.
They have always had p250s
People say that Krieg was a problem, how so?
When I played, nobody used it, those that did never got their gun picked up by CTs.
When I played scrims with friends and watched them play (DMGs+) I seen very little SGs.
So I don't understand the nerf
He forgot to say "Valve please fix".
It's annoying how the CT guns are more expensive, they dropped the price on the SG a while back, they should've done the same to the AUG, seeing how for example OFFICE is very T sided, a lower priced AUG would help out the CTs. Either way, not happy about the SG change.
Also I've been a Tec9 fan and stuck with it even through its Nerfed phase, glad it's better! And imagine slight gun adjustments, nobody could ever tell! :D
I loved the kek9 but i started to play just after they made the thing useless so it was too inaccurate even when standing still. p250 is way better and i am a proud weirdo for using it.
SG was my most favourite T weapon.
When are we going to see the "go play valorant" as an insult?
The death of Valorant may be quicker than you think. Just go to r/GlobalOffensive. There's really nice thread how the Valorant anti-cheat access your kernel, which starts the program immediately after you turn your PC on, even if you deleted Valorant. This causes slowing your computer and (that one is not confirmed) potentially stealing your data. Other thing, wrong about the anti-cheat is (this one has been confirmed) can make a hacker get admin rights on your system just by hacking the shitty anti-cheat. And the irony is that even with so much "security", the Valorant AC couldn't detect 4 cheaters in the beta. Good job, Riot Games!
@@МирославКръстев-с7и eac and battleye use kernel privileges too, have been doing it for years and there were no epic l33t hackers stealing people's data and hijacking their computers btw
Already seen it in my games
@@richardvlasek2445 Watch SomeEpicGamer's video on Valorant's anti cheat
@@richardvlasek2445 they load when you start the game and close after.
Valorants' loads when you boot, before Windows itself. It's always running and that's the major issue.
That Spinal Tap reference though ;-) Dig it!
Valve: promotes use of non-meta weapon
Players: tHis ISnt an Ak or aWP nERf 2 thE GrOUnD Plz
Valve: understandable, have a OP jumping accuracy for Deagle
Loved the Starcraft soundtrack running in the background
Community: valve plz fix
Valve: lol pistols go buff
I decided to switch to A1s a day before the patch came and i was very exited but after hitting -97 in 5 hits at pointblink range without any wallbangs i really dont feel like this anymore
I have been saying since around 2014, that SG553 was the best assault rifle in the game ; people called me n00b and silver.
I am glad it took about 6 years, and a price reduction, for the "pros" to figure it out.
And they did the price reduction on purpose, so people can spam the gun > made everyone aware that the weapon is strong > "ohhh, too strong, let's destroy it completely !".
Cause and effect, huh ?
I am wondering though, just for...the sake of it ; when will they fucking bring M249 into...meta ? Because that gun is no more than a meme gun (the old negev-like) with that price. They should make M249, 3 500$ (or alright, maybe 3 800$) and see how it plays out.
I say this about M249 because...I sort of like MGs in FPS games. :D
When will they do something new ? Like, new guns ? Underused guns being placed into play again ?! These back-forth buffs & nerfs they do, like the Tec-9, are getting repetitive. Just like Dota updates. Same heroes that used to have certain skill numbers before a patch, gets it back again a few months later. CS is no different !
And then they, and the people, wonder...why is CS "dying" ?
PS: I am still waiting for hostage maps (rework) to be played in pro plays. I am tired of the same, detonation maps, and the same tactics, and the same tricks...that they keep doing it since I started watching pros play in tournaments.
And I forgot to mention, I would say this game 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘥 to be balanced ; these days, I am not so sure. Actually, since 2016 I started having this "vibe".
And now I see they re-introduced scout-jumping. Deagle jumping ?!?! Player skins ?
I am sorry but I just can't take this game seriously anymore.
I just hope the source 2 leak is true, and this will bring something "on the table" for CS GO ; to get me back at it, and motivated.
@Soda King I agree !
I dont want to even imagine what simple and niko will do with this deagles
I miss SG bro because SG feels pretty good(((
Lots of kudos for the SC1 music. IIRC not the first time I hear it on your channel but always pleasant. :-)
EDIT: 5:26 : even more points for 4/20 reference! Cheers :-)
6:27 Top 10 jokes of 2020: #1 Cs is such a well balanced game compared to everything else out there
Even world of thanks is more balanced if you know the meta of that game
@Ahl Gren I did and i know
I thought the thumbnail said 5g nerf which gave the image of some dude running around dust2 frying people with the radiation from a satellite dish
Fun fact: headshot seems easier with Sg than headshot with Ak.
My guess is that Valve intended this update to shake the meta up super hard and see what falls out. That, or they internally just wanted to mess with everyone for lols.
one of these days he'll get a closer I swear
Warowl: no one will use the pp-bizon
Silvers: are you sure about that?
deagle isnt broken, it's just like jumping with the scout, so not really something you do often because it isn't really that overpowered to jump shoot.
9/10 times you will find youselves got shot with an awp while trying to jump.
Say that again after yoy get one tapped by someone jumping from behind a crate without even giving you a chance to react
There's two major differences between Jumpscout and Newdeag that make the Newdeag far more powerful.
Jumpscout was effective at long ranges, mid at cache comes to mind, meaning the shots attempted were lower probability to begin with, and had less effect on the game over all. Newdeag is really powerful up close, not needing to scope makes it far more viable inside of bombsites, rather than being limited only long distance encounters.
This is compounded by the Newdeag having a high jump accuracy during the full jump Arc, rather than only when falling like the Jumpscout. That delay meant that you needed to expose yourself for half the duration of your jump cycle before you could fire. That allowed AWPs to have the upper hand even when the opponent was jumpscouting. With the Newdeag, you can fire at any point in the jump cycle, giving the person with the deag a *massive* advantage over every other weapon in a position like kookli (no idea how that's spelled). Newdeag is going to break CT retakes on Dust II A-site completely. Jumpscout never broke an entire bombsite like the Newdeag will.
Also, the deagle is still a secondary. So if you wanted to jump scout you were stuck with only the scout (and maybe a CZ) for the rest of the round. With the new deagle, you could use an AK or M4 the whole round until you needed to jump shoot, and then go right back to your rifle.
@@XxmetalXpoisonxX Deagle doesn't have a scope, have fun with that distance. I think it's only really useful for apartments on B Mirage.
Lol the random Valorant at the end there! Nice seo WarOwl
The last time i was early, the krieg was op
I guess you were never early then
@@TypoCM sick roast bro you sure told him
what's a krieg? you mean the $3k dmr on t side?
ssg was my fav gun when it wasn't mainstream.. now ma boi got nerfed because of its popularity.. damn
Sg553 fkin unseless now
Thanks for the update, real clear summary of the changes!
The other game looks pretty promising, I played CS for 15 years on and off, this time they finally are getting some real competition.
man imagine deagles were 700 actual dollars
they go anywhere from 1200-2200 actual dollars from Magnum Research.
And an ak costs 600$, as much as a glock, which is really good. Also the hk usp is obsolete and famas really do the job irl. 5.56 has better armor penetration than 7.62 and cause worse wounds irl. I would like to see 1911 in game or a decent revolver that shoots like a real one. Im pretty sure people who made this game didn't shoot enough the guns to see how they work.
sg is literally unplayable now and i don't mean that in the usual way, it really is. the fire rate is so ridicously low now, you could as well just tap all the time. the final nail in the coffin for me. :( bye bye, cs:go. it was cool, while it lasted.
My suggestion for Valve would be:
Make the M4A4 a one hit kill to the head from close distance. Then I would increase the A1-S's price back to 3,100 and increase the rate of fire to 666 rpm and the magazine size to 30 rounds. In order to not make it too overpowered I'd decrease the damage if you use the silencer. Yes, I know, modern silencers don't slow the bullet down, but it is a suggestion to improve the gameplay, furthermore it would give players a reason to take the silencer off.
If 2 players with full health, 1 with an AK and 1 with the M4 start shooting at each other at the same time (bodyshots), the AK guy would win as it takes 0.4 seconds to kill an armored player with an AK (600 rpm, 4 hits) and 0.45 seconds with an M4 (666 rpm, 5 hits).
I would increase the Krieg's Firerate back to 666, but severely decrease it when scoped, same for the AUG (maybe even change the firing mode to semi-auto).
I would introduce a "new" pistol to replace the glock (like USP-S and P2000): A single beretta. You can buy the second one for 200 dollars, that way players may start using it again. It would be still too expensive to buy dualies if you want to have armor on pistol round, however, if a teammate drops you his because he buys a deagle or something, you'll be able to. In order to not make them too op, the accuracy should be decreased. The single beretta should fire slower than the glock but be more accurate, but not as accurate as the USP-S.
Of course, I am no expert and some of my suggestions may be complete trash.
I would love to see a free single beretta