personally, i felt like miguel was just mad as hell that miles had accidentally tangoed a bit with the multiverse(the collider, being bit by the wrong spider) and hadn’t suffered any loss, unlike miguel. i feel like the whole entire concept of canon events could either be a plot hole in itself or miguel might be completely wrong. wouldn’t the fact that the “canon event” in pavitr’s universe completely disprove his theory? the destruction that would have led to the chief’s death was not at all supposed to happen at that time, had the spot not travelled there. but, if a canon event is supposed to happen no matter the circumstance, wouldn’t that somewhat mean that in miles’ universe, there’s supposed to be a spiderman, no matter the circumstance? or maybe miguel’s right and he’s just a bitter old man lol
and i say “there’s supposed to be a spiderman no matter the circumstance “ because of the fact miles also had not suffered that glitching thing due to being bit by an organism from a completely different reality
Great comment and you raise some really good points. My interpretation is that Miguel thinks canon events are true, but he is actually wrong. The movie seems to want us to side with Miles and gives some hints that canon isn't always true like in Spider-Man Indias world and the fact that Gwen's dad quits being in the police. I think this shows that canon events can be changed and thats what Miles needs to do to save his dad. I'm not sure if Miguel is just wrong but thinks he is right or if it he has an ulterior motive to his actions, he seems to be hiding something! In terms of Miles I think he is supposed to be Spider-Man, thats why I say "wrong" spider in this video, as he is the Spider-Man of his world now. The vigilante Miles we meet at the end shows that Miles is going to try to be a hero whether he has the Spider powers or not. Thats my interpretation of the film. Thanks for watching and for the awesome comment!
If a 16-year-old boy did something that would put the universe at risk, you would be angry too. The movie keeps us closer to Miles, but to be honest, if they prove Miles right, the movie will have no effect. Miles has to prove that he can't save everyone. Also, Miguel Canon does not say that Evemt will definitely destroy the universe. He says that if it is done enough, we can lose everything. From this perspective, even if the universe will not definitely disappear, it is justified to be cautious against it.
I love your explanations. They feel so genuine and don’t just go over the surface level and just what the characters seem to be but going into their purpose, voice performance, and your connection with them
17:01 the best part is that the concept of the mayday storyline in the comics is that its a dream that will never happen but a broken down spiderman made it a reality. the ppl who made this film are actually spiderman fans and understand the character and i LOVE IT
It’s crazy how in the concept art we could’ve had spider-boy from the amalgam universe. Which, technically we could’ve had basically a DC character since that version of the characters, both owned by marvel, and DC. I wish they would’ve struck the deal to keep him in the film. Maybe they’ll do so in beyond in Spiderverse, but I doubt it.
@cosmicreader1312, I have a question, I know Spider-Boy is from the Almagam universe and that he's a combination between a Marvel character and a DC character and I know that Spider-Man is the Marvel side but what is the DC side of him supposed to be because I do not know, could you please tell me?
Cinemaze, I really like what you said about the charecters in this video, I thought you went pretty in depth with them and I like that. Great video in my opinion.
I POPPED UP IN NUMBER 12 LEZ GOOOOOOOOOO IM NOT THAT BAD also watching Peter Parker die in into the spider verse actually made me cry cuz at the time I thought that spider man would live forever would continue to fight and never die but after seeing him die for the first time it broke my heart
To be clear, the Insomniac Spider-Man you mentioned in this video is probably the comic counterpart of him. The real one is next to 2 pixelated villains that are trap in anomaly prisons, with Lyla calling them "Video Game Guys". He was also voiced by Yuri Lowenthal himself! But sadly giving 1 line "Are you- talking to me?"
I was talking about the one who said are you talking to me! Although we don’t know if this is the one from our video game or a variant from a similar video game
@@CINEMAZE Probably have to go with Miguel or Miles. Currently it's a tie fir these 2, but Peter B Parker is also great too. I guess it's settled with Beyond The Spiderverse
@@CINEMAZE Well, if it's not a big role I at least hope he won't be one of the Spider-Men to die as we know Spot is going to be killing some members of the spider society. Which ones do you think will die?
I’m not sure who will die, most likely some generic ones we don’t care about and maybe 2099 in an act of redemption, Sony will want to keep the others around for spin off films. I think the spider-people might turn against the spider society as Gwen’s new team help to prove canon events are wrong and hopefully spectacular Spidey can turn against the society too.
@@CINEMAZE Gwen and Jess Drew live no matter what. A Spin-Off titled Spider-Woman starring Gwen and Jess is being made. I don't believe it's a prequel especially given the third main character is Cindy Moon/Silk who is kinda a big deal to the lore of the Spiders...Connecting to the Mystical side of things. So Cindy Moon/Silk would have the facts of what is going on with Canon Events...Which is why she's going to be after because otherwise there would be no conflict. So yeah...All the guys are in danger. My guess is Miguel and Miles 42 and Peter B for main character deaths.
I definitely enjoyed this!!! My personal favorite is gwen (you can tell by my profile picture HAHAH) but pavitr and hobie are second place! I agree indefinitely that miles is THE best spider-man though, gwen just has a special place in my heart because her story and her arc and everything is just… wow my least favorite spider-man would probably be Ben Reilly / Scarlet Spider he just wasn't funny to me and just seemed like a drag on the movie (but I'm not a 90s kid, so I'm probably not the intended audience for that character lol)
He made an awesome sound track but I didn’t know who he was coming into the film and also doesn’t mean they should force real world cameos into the film imo. Thanks for watching!
5miguel. He's awesome,ruthless haves a great backstory and he's one of the more interesting characters 4 peeter b. He was great in itsv,preety much the best version of peeter parker but he was preety underused in atsv(didn't rly take anything away but i feel like the next are better) 3 miles. He's the protagonist,the one with the struggle and groth but this aspects are overshadowed by number one wich have a better storry,bigger groth and bigger struggels. He's great all across the board but i like the next 2 a litle more 2 spider-punk. He's incredible. Everything he does is halarious but,even tho you don't realyse at the moment, makes sense,he's supportive and concerned with miles,like a older brother, he also exposes gwen's lies and question her for what she's doing +is loats of fun. I love hobbie,only problem with him is that british accent(ik he's british in comics and i won't have anything with it but is rly hard to understand what he's saying. Even after 9 watches,i have no clue of what a part of his lines are) 1 gwen. As i said. Her story is better in every aspect. Is more layered, it makes a bland,love interest character like she was in itsv and adds and adds on it. Her struggles and her relation with his father made her like that. Closed to everyone. She cares for miles but she looks down on him,like a kid,trying to protect him for the truth by not telling him everything he needs to hear or,straight up lying. She's miss depressive and vulnerable,with her situation becaming worse after her dad finds out. She's missguided and tryes to do what's right (like she said:we are supposed to be the good guys)but fail,distencing herself from the everyboddy,'till she's left alone. That's the changing point. She solves her problems with her dad trough what is the best scene of the movie and go to make things right with miles. I can go on and on all day. Main point,she had the biggest groth and she's amazing
I don’t really have a long list like you.. so my favourites would Noir Spider-Man and Spider-Ham and the spectacular Spider-Man and Spider-Punk and Spider-Man 2099 and Peter B Parker and Lego Spider-Man and Spider-Gwen.. edit.. Miles! Great List!
Actaully, ps4 Spider-Man plays a bigger role than you think, not in the movie but for advertising ps Spider-Man 2 bc Ned was play the game and you can tell it was that game bc he’s wearing a symbiotic Spider-Man suit.
Interesting! I didn’t even think of this, does she count as a Spider-Man yet? Sure she has powers but she hasn’t made the choice to put on a costume and be a spider-person
@@CINEMAZE Naw, I get that. She had little screen time and character development. Her placement on your list makes sense, especially since she's a hologram.
There are problems with canon events for starters some spider-man never went through the uncle Ben accident like the armored spider, Toei spider-man, spirit spider (the ghost rider spider-man variant), just name to few, some of the spiders are not heroes like the black cat variant, kraven spider variant, the creepy one that lay eggs in his uncle and neighbor, and most of them are not bitten by a radioactive spider which includes ironically Miguel’O Hara since he was gene spliced, and never went through the other canon events, heck Tobey Maguire never went through the canon events of captain stacy and Gwen Stacy.
I think there is still more to learn about canon events and Miguel may not be telling the truth. But also I don’t think it has to be exactly the same people e.g uncle Ben or Gwen, but just a similar figure in their life
The Ben Reilly jokes just sorta pissed me off really. They're not accurate to the character at all and feel like someone who's never read his stories but thinks they understand them making jokes about him and as a fan it's really annoying.
Isn’t it just a suit? Surely it counts as an extension of Peni, and for the purposes of ranking there is no defining quality of SP//DR that would make me rank it anywhere differently than Peni
This is just saying my favourite in these movies, not my favourite Spider-Man overall. Peter Parker is my Spider-Man, but miles is still spider-man and the best one in his films
personally, i felt like miguel was just mad as hell that miles had accidentally tangoed a bit with the multiverse(the collider, being bit by the wrong spider) and hadn’t suffered any loss, unlike miguel. i feel like the whole entire concept of canon events could either be a plot hole in itself or miguel might be completely wrong. wouldn’t the fact that the “canon event” in pavitr’s universe completely disprove his theory? the destruction that would have led to the chief’s death was not at all supposed to happen at that time, had the spot not travelled there. but, if a canon event is supposed to happen no matter the circumstance, wouldn’t that somewhat mean that in miles’ universe, there’s supposed to be a spiderman, no matter the circumstance? or maybe miguel’s right and he’s just a bitter old man lol
and i say “there’s supposed to be a spiderman no matter the circumstance “ because of the fact miles also had not suffered that glitching thing due to being bit by an organism from a completely different reality
ANYWAYS great video i agree with this ranking overall
Great comment and you raise some really good points. My interpretation is that Miguel thinks canon events are true, but he is actually wrong. The movie seems to want us to side with Miles and gives some hints that canon isn't always true like in Spider-Man Indias world and the fact that Gwen's dad quits being in the police. I think this shows that canon events can be changed and thats what Miles needs to do to save his dad. I'm not sure if Miguel is just wrong but thinks he is right or if it he has an ulterior motive to his actions, he seems to be hiding something! In terms of Miles I think he is supposed to be Spider-Man, thats why I say "wrong" spider in this video, as he is the Spider-Man of his world now. The vigilante Miles we meet at the end shows that Miles is going to try to be a hero whether he has the Spider powers or not. Thats my interpretation of the film. Thanks for watching and for the awesome comment!
@@CINEMAZEspectacular Spider-Man has a second line when they show the canon event of captain Stacy dies
If a 16-year-old boy did something that would put the universe at risk, you would be angry too. The movie keeps us closer to Miles, but to be honest, if they prove Miles right, the movie will have no effect. Miles has to prove that he can't save everyone. Also, Miguel Canon does not say that Evemt will definitely destroy the universe. He says that if it is done enough, we can lose everything. From this perspective, even if the universe will not definitely disappear, it is justified to be cautious against it.
I love your explanations. They feel so genuine and don’t just go over the surface level and just what the characters seem to be but going into their purpose, voice performance, and your connection with them
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoy the explanations, I try to cover as much info as succinctly as possible!
17:01 the best part is that the concept of the mayday storyline in the comics is that its a dream that will never happen but a broken down spiderman made it a reality. the ppl who made this film are actually spiderman fans and understand the character and i LOVE IT
That’s so true, great point, it would be awesome to see Peter B Parker meet an older version of Mayday as Spider-Woman!
For peni parker what happened between the films was she lost a bunch of friends and people basically so yeah…
She went through Evangelion its canon
It’s crazy how in the concept art we could’ve had spider-boy from the amalgam universe.
Which, technically we could’ve had basically a DC character since that version of the characters, both owned by marvel, and DC.
I wish they would’ve struck the deal to keep him in the film. Maybe they’ll do so in beyond in Spiderverse, but I doubt it.
Wow that’s awesome, I didn’t know that! I wish we got that too. Thanks for watching and commenting
@cosmicreader1312, I have a question, I know Spider-Boy is from the Almagam universe and that he's a combination between a Marvel character and a DC character and I know that Spider-Man is the Marvel side but what is the DC side of him supposed to be because I do not know, could you please tell me?
Cinemaze, I really like what you said about the charecters in this video, I thought you went pretty in depth with them and I like that. Great video in my opinion.
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it!
I POPPED UP IN NUMBER 12 LEZ GOOOOOOOOOO IM NOT THAT BAD also watching Peter Parker die in into the spider verse actually made me cry cuz at the time I thought that spider man would live forever would continue to fight and never die but after seeing him die for the first time it broke my heart
You might go up some spots after Beyond the spiderverse! And yeah they do his death very well
To be clear, the Insomniac Spider-Man you mentioned in this video is probably the comic counterpart of him. The real one is next to 2 pixelated villains that are trap in anomaly prisons, with Lyla calling them "Video Game Guys". He was also voiced by Yuri Lowenthal himself! But sadly giving 1 line "Are you- talking to me?"
I was talking about the one who said are you talking to me! Although we don’t know if this is the one from our video game or a variant from a similar video game
Love when you do rankings, always spark up great discussions. Great video Cinemaze!
Thanks man, appreciate the support as always! Who's your favourite Spidey from these films?
@@CINEMAZE Probably have to go with Miguel or Miles. Currently it's a tie fir these 2, but Peter B Parker is also great too. I guess it's settled with Beyond The Spiderverse
I hope they give Spectacular Spider-Man a bigger role in Beyond the Spider-verse.
Hopefully! We might see him again but I doubt he will have a big role
@@CINEMAZE Well, if it's not a big role I at least hope he won't be one of the Spider-Men to die as we know Spot is going to be killing some members of the spider society. Which ones do you think will die?
I’m not sure who will die, most likely some generic ones we don’t care about and maybe 2099 in an act of redemption, Sony will want to keep the others around for spin off films.
I think the spider-people might turn against the spider society as Gwen’s new team help to prove canon events are wrong and hopefully spectacular Spidey can turn against the society too.
@@CINEMAZE Gwen and Jess Drew live no matter what. A Spin-Off titled Spider-Woman starring Gwen and Jess is being made. I don't believe it's a prequel especially given the third main character is Cindy Moon/Silk who is kinda a big deal to the lore of the Spiders...Connecting to the Mystical side of things. So Cindy Moon/Silk would have the facts of what is going on with Canon Events...Which is why she's going to be after because otherwise there would be no conflict. So yeah...All the guys are in danger. My guess is Miguel and Miles 42 and Peter B for main character deaths.
Jeez this video needs more views
Thanks! Appreciate the support!
Yea it does
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Amazing video filled with great points! Very underrated
Thanks! Really appreciate the support
Honestly my top 5 would be
1. Peter Parker
2. Peter B. Parker
3. Miguel O'Hara
4. Miles Morales
5. Gwen Stacy
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really good video man keep it up !
Thanks for the support, really appreciate it
I definitely enjoyed this!!! My personal favorite is gwen (you can tell by my profile picture HAHAH) but pavitr and hobie are second place!
I agree indefinitely that miles is THE best spider-man though, gwen just has a special place in my heart because her story and her arc and everything is just… wow
my least favorite spider-man would probably be Ben Reilly / Scarlet Spider he just wasn't funny to me and just seemed like a drag on the movie (but I'm not a 90s kid, so I'm probably not the intended audience for that character lol)
Thanks for the great comment and for sharing your opinion!
1:46 yes you are right spider uk is last in my tier list just take a look at it the one from comic book is great
I am personally offended that you put metro boomin last after he made a glorious album for the movie, such tragedy (I get your reasoning)
He made an awesome sound track but I didn’t know who he was coming into the film and also doesn’t mean they should force real world cameos into the film imo. Thanks for watching!
how is his coffee not spilling? 15:54
The coffee was bitten by a radioactive spider
Wasn’t expecting to make it in the top 3
Congrats!
5miguel. He's awesome,ruthless haves a great backstory and he's one of the more interesting characters
4 peeter b. He was great in itsv,preety much the best version of peeter parker but he was preety underused in atsv(didn't rly take anything away but i feel like the next are better)
3 miles. He's the protagonist,the one with the struggle and groth but this aspects are overshadowed by number one wich have a better storry,bigger groth and bigger struggels. He's great all across the board but i like the next 2 a litle more
2 spider-punk. He's incredible. Everything he does is halarious but,even tho you don't realyse at the moment, makes sense,he's supportive and concerned with miles,like a older brother, he also exposes gwen's lies and question her for what she's doing +is loats of fun. I love hobbie,only problem with him is that british accent(ik he's british in comics and i won't have anything with it but is rly hard to understand what he's saying. Even after 9 watches,i have no clue of what a part of his lines are)
1 gwen. As i said. Her story is better in every aspect. Is more layered, it makes a bland,love interest character like she was in itsv and adds and adds on it. Her struggles and her relation with his father made her like that. Closed to everyone. She cares for miles but she looks down on him,like a kid,trying to protect him for the truth by not telling him everything he needs to hear or,straight up lying. She's miss depressive and vulnerable,with her situation becaming worse after her dad finds out. She's missguided and tryes to do what's right (like she said:we are supposed to be the good guys)but fail,distencing herself from the everyboddy,'till she's left alone. That's the changing point. She solves her problems with her dad trough what is the best scene of the movie and go to make things right with miles. I can go on and on all day. Main point,she had the biggest groth and she's amazing
Awesome reasoning, thanks for sharing. And agree about understanding spider-punk, even as a Brit there were some lines I struggled to hear from him
I don’t really have a long list like you.. so my favourites would Noir Spider-Man and Spider-Ham and the spectacular Spider-Man and Spider-Punk and Spider-Man 2099 and Peter B Parker and Lego Spider-Man and Spider-Gwen.. edit.. Miles!
Great List!
That’s awesome thanks for sharing as always! No miles on the list?
@@CINEMAZE I just focused on the side characters but I put Miles in there..😅
There is actually a comic that explains penny parkers cannon event
Oh cool I didn’t know that, thanks for letting me know
Actaully, ps4 Spider-Man plays a bigger role than you think, not in the movie but for advertising ps Spider-Man 2 bc Ned was play the game and you can tell it was that game bc he’s wearing a symbiotic Spider-Man suit.
Good point! Although it was Ganke not Ned
Sun Spider deserves to be higher for the “crutch” joke.
I don’t remember the joke unfortunately. Im excited to see the film again and I’ll look out for the joke! Thanks for commenting
you forgot Mayday, Peter B Parker's daughter
Interesting! I didn’t even think of this, does she count as a Spider-Man yet? Sure she has powers but she hasn’t made the choice to put on a costume and be a spider-person
2:43, she helped Miles out of black solidarity. Simple as that. Nothing truly political, that’s just how it be.
Maybe, I just didn’t find her that compelling
@@CINEMAZE Naw, I get that. She had little screen time and character development. Her placement on your list makes sense, especially since she's a hologram.
The way you pronounced Miguel 😅😅😂. Nice video tho
😂 I have no idea why I said it like that! I know how to pronounce it I promise! Thanks for watching and commenting
If I remember correctly there was even an ACTUAL spider monkey that was chasing down miles in the film in the spider society
Haha no way, I missed that! Thanks for watching and commenting
@@CINEMAZE no problem
I wonder how peter b parker vs kingpin would have gone
Interesting idea, honestly no idea!
Not gonna lie I think Gwen was more of the main character
Yeah they gave her a lot to do and a proper arc for sure!
Personally, my favourite is Spiderman
Good pick 😂
The best spiderman is obviously japanese spiderman
Hopefully we see him in Beyond the Spider-Verse!
Great video dude. Peter B. Parker is my #1
Thanks, I appreciate it! He was a close second for me!
Bro you can’t just expect spectator spider-man to have anything other than a cameo you were just being way to optimistic about that
Yeah maybe, I just thought he’d get more than one line because they showed him on the posters
Bro they need to reboot spectacular instantly also does anyone remember that animated spider msn that was really edgy and cool
Yeah it was awesome I’d love to see more!
2:55 that shoot taken from questionable source..(why). ooof... 1xbet is damn casino...with invasive ads.
Didn’t realise the watermark on this, thought it was just a normal image. At the time of the video the film was new and it was hard to find images
The lego spiderman is also the the same Spider-Man from the LEGO marvel games
11:38 actually, he would still be alive if the spider didnt bite the wrong miles
True! I do still think theres more to reveal about this idea of the main miles not supposed to getting bit
There are problems with canon events for starters some spider-man never went through the uncle Ben accident like the armored spider, Toei spider-man, spirit spider (the ghost rider spider-man variant), just name to few, some of the spiders are not heroes like the black cat variant, kraven spider variant, the creepy one that lay eggs in his uncle and neighbor, and most of them are not bitten by a radioactive spider which includes ironically Miguel’O Hara since he was gene spliced, and never went through the other canon events, heck Tobey Maguire never went through the canon events of captain stacy and Gwen Stacy.
I think there is still more to learn about canon events and Miguel may not be telling the truth.
But also I don’t think it has to be exactly the same people e.g uncle Ben or Gwen, but just a similar figure in their life
Good vid but Sun Spider over Metro Spider like c'mon bro
I don’t see why that’s a problem. Sun spider has comic origins and metro is a forced celebrity cameo
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Not anymore
Thanks for the support!
Jessica drew got nerfed
The Ben Reilly jokes just sorta pissed me off really. They're not accurate to the character at all and feel like someone who's never read his stories but thinks they understand them making jokes about him and as a fan it's really annoying.
I feel like it’s kind of accurate to the era of the comics but I do wish we got a more accurate take on the character
I'd put Peter B. on top, my opinion though. I sort of lost a bit of respect for miles in the second film
It was close between him and Miles for me. How comes you lost respect for Miles? Thanks for watching and commenting
My favourite was Spider-Man.
So true!
Dude, WHERE’S SP//DR? They’re just as much of a spider-person as any of the other ones!
Isn’t it just a suit? Surely it counts as an extension of Peni, and for the purposes of ranking there is no defining quality of SP//DR that would make me rank it anywhere differently than Peni
@@CINEMAZE it’s not just a suit, it holds the spider.
@@B.H.L.studios the spider is barely a character though, the spider has a physic connection to Peni so I class them as one character
I feel like Spider punk should be number 2
Yeah he is awesome, but he hasn’t really had any arc yet
Bro is this power list becaues if its miguel is winner
The video is just about my favourites not power
@@CINEMAZE okay dude
That is NOT Jessica Drew
True, I mention in this video how she is completely different but I can still enjoy her as a new version of the character
Nah Peter Parker is always going to be THE Spider-Man
This is just saying my favourite in these movies, not my favourite Spider-Man overall. Peter Parker is my Spider-Man, but miles is still spider-man and the best one in his films
Miguel is not the worst bro
It’s just a thumbnail, did you watch the video?
I dont watch exactly
@@CINEMAZE sorry man i was comment to look video photo
nah, spiderpunk is the best
The thumbnaill got me steaming 😡😡
Gotta entice the people in! Sorry!
@@CINEMAZE click bait, what can I say. Well, it worked on me! 🤷♀️
@@GwenStacy11 Sorry! Thanks for watching and commenting
miles isnt the best imo , peter b parker takes the cake.
Yeah thats fair, its a close one for me! Thanks for watching and commenting
Horrible take, lego spiderman is one
Fair!