If Niftsky is so good, why doesn't he attempt other games? I'm sure there are very competitive backgrounds in games that he could enjoy. You don't need to go to GD and beat Bloodborne or anything
Great video! Niftski is a really incredible player, but I think one thing that him and Suigi have in common is their absolutely spotless practice etiquette. They are relentless at grinding down a trick until it becomes second nature, no matter how hard it is.
I agree. I learned from the best, and i do the same thing with Prince of Persia SNES. Life has been crazy lately, and no time for practicing or running, and yet, last Sunday, I got a new WR on a single attempt. Granted, PoP has way easier timing than SMB1, but putting in the practice one trick at a time definitely pays off!
It seems like hardcore practice takes a lot of commitment. It can get very tedious, and attempts certainly get you more views. But I assume it's the most effective way to train. Imagine if basketball players practiced every day by spending just a few minutes on shooting drills followed by hours of full games.
There's only one explanation. Niftski got his speedrunning ability via a wish granted from a monkeys paw. He wished to be an incredible speedrunner, and his wish came true but the cost? He would be so good, so effortlessly, that it would rob him of his joy.
Some people just have the talent and find the right niche to use their God given skills. I'm just hoping Niftski can find games that take a little longer to grind, that give him back the fun of grinding.
@SayAhh you can but you have to disable left + right for the speedrun to be accepted. It's a setting in the emulator that you have to turn on/off or whatever.
Mad respect for Kosmic and the whole SMB speed run community for supporting other runners you're ostensibly competing with. Makes the community that much better when they stick up for each other like this.
From what I've seen as an outsider a lot of these communities, especially at the top level, are really chill and will share strats and support each other. It's pretty sick.
It's so bittersweet to be living through the final days of SMB1 speedrunning. He will tie the TAS all the way and then everyone will have to move on to other things. This feels a bit like the end of the DAS era of Tetris, as it was ultimately obsoleted by hypertapping. We will always remember the likes of AndrewG, Kosmic and Niftski in SMB1 like we remember the likes of Jonas, Greentea and Joseph, but at one point it's really the closing of an era, a story with a beginning and an end.
In 10 years Niftski grinding hard for 20 minutes to beat his 4:01 for his first sub4 only to achieve it during his warmup and ruin the fun of the grind.
@@hisham_hmthat is simply not true. People will still want to show that they can tie the record. Even if it impossible to beat it, you can still tie it.
It feels like the true grind that would make Niftski happy at its depth and length is matching the TAS. If anyone can finally reach perfection it's him
The dread in his voice as he begs for someone to let him throw. Knowing exactly what it will mean if he makes it and exactly what it will mean if he throws. It's like he's having an existential crisis just being totally flabbergasted how it is possible to have his skill. He doesn't want it. Please, someone take it... It's like when Bruce Banner's dad tries to absorb the Hulk's energy, but it's just too much. He knows it, but nobody else will ever truly understand just how much pain his power can cause.
Yooo, that combined capture thing from that flibidi guy is so cool, this is a gamechanger Also, Niftski is pretty much the oldschool 2D Mario equivalent of Suigi.. the new generation of speedrunners really is taking over, dem younguns are summat else
@@Davesoftlook at what he did on live stream, in front of a crowd, on real hardware, and tell me he isn’t impressive. Surely that footage convinced you.
It's super interesting to see an expert in the field talk about someone at the pinnacle. You have the background to do it, and you articulate the details that we laymen probably wouldn't have caught because we aren't steeped in the intricacies of the process. Thanks!
7:52 Niftski is so fast that from the minute this was published this has become outdated 9:56 he also played Cookie Clicker for 3 seconds on a Livestream because he failed 1-2 11:32 Yhea 100% a while 18:41 THAT WAS ACUALLY TRUE!
Niftski is also a class act. Back during the second r/place, my group happened to start building the logo we were making on the same small plot that Niftski and his chat were building a smb1 design. I think he had more people than us so he could totally have just trampled us eventually, but he literally helped us move over to the left and had his twitch chat help us place blocks lmao. Soon enough he did the same with like 2-3 other groups in the area. So yea, at one point Niftski had an alliance with Shotbow MC, some book series called Wings of Fire, and the Cleveland Browns.
I really appreciate your thoughts on the keyboard debate. It really is such nonsense. Niftski is clearly the GOAT and i am honored to have met both him and you
If it's allowed it's allowed. But no question it's a lot more comfortable then the regular remote and being able to have 3 fingers to move/switch directions instead of 1 allows for a lot more precision. Yes "a lot" more.
@superl8296 you could but like I said it's just more comfortable for the player using a keyboard being a well known thing of how gamers use WASD. On the other hand the NES's controller d-pad was for single input directional inputs, 1 finger. Using claw grip or something similar on a NES just is not comfortable at all
@@skipperbut Thats preference at the end of the day. You can say its not comfortable but most top runners use a controller and like it a lot better. It only comes down to that. Your original comment implied you have an advantage on keyboard because you have multiple fingers which just isnt true
I think the reason it bothers Niftski to finish speedruns so fast is that this is his moment in the spotlight. Think about it. Most of us are born with only one or two truly exceptional talents. When we finally get attention for those talents, we don't want the moment to end. We want to savor it. And we want the audience to connect with us in the right way. Niftski has a gift for speedrunning, but he's so gifted that it actually hinders his ability to keep an audience in suspense and keep them emotionally invested in his runs. What he's really saying when he quits the run is this: I want to be achieving this milestone when my full effort and intention is on it. I want myself and my audience to be in sync, on the edge of our seats, waiting to see if I can make it happen. I don't want it to be in a goofy category, with terrible setup, and nobody properly paying attention.
Who the heck gets emotionally invested in speedruns, besides the runner, of course? I think most viewers see the title, watch for a second, go "oh, neat," and move to the next thing. It's not as glamorous as YT vids try to make it.
lol. Speedrunning has had enough of that.. hope he doesn't end up in a Karl Jobst video years down the line.. as Karl routinely says.. being the best doesn't make you any less likely to cheat in the future. Him ending runs because he's on WR pace is both hilarious and sad at the same time. I hope him actually heading for TAS level gives him to satisfaction.
I love how the people in the speedrunning community constantly sing each other's praises. Beautiful. I'm not a speedrunner myself, I have just been getting into the whole topic a few years ago with a video about the history of Mirror's Edge speedruns and the techniques and glitches discovered.
I know it's not all like this, but something I really enjoy about the speedrunning community is how ya'll are so genuinely excited for one another once someone sets a new record. No doubt there is drama, and haters, but as a whole, the speedrunning community seems pretty wholesome.
Just my 2 cents, but ... Speedrunning deals objectively with limits of human ability and TAS for guidance. As such "World Records" are actually just millstones. Will another human be born who can beat 9.58s in the 100m? Who knows. So Usain Bolt can look at his record is something that might never be beaten, and might even feel disappointed if it is. Will a human, given enough time, beat the current WR for SMB? Yes. That's just a fact. We know that because the WR isn't at the theoretical limits of human ability. Unless you tie the task, you should never expect your record to hold for long ... and even then, new tech can change that. So why be disappointed by something that is inevitable? While in other sports you are competing against other people, in a speedrun you are more competing with your personal best and the game itself. And after you try to "break" a game for 3 years, seeing someone else break the game even better then you did is actually pretty cathartic for most people.
He may just have an impact as big as AndrewG, that's absolutely scary because Andrew was carving his legacy before this hyper optimized era It makes me speechless how he is not only being dominant but he is probably the GOAT of SMB1
I’m honored to have been able to sit down with Niftski a couple years ago when he first hit 4:54 on SMB and he’s been amazingly consistent with world records ever since! Honestly bringing smb to its absolute limit
Playing live in front of a crowd on a one hour limit and putting together a run better than anything Kosmic himself ever did in SMB1. I can't even. I knew this was gonna be insane when an all-time legend is talking about somebody ELSE being insanely good at HIS game, but wow. I can't even *imagine* literally becoming so good at a game that I become *emotionally compromised* and force a quit. At this stage, Niftski can hear colors and smell music.
For those who're saying that Niftski's playing on Keyboard and keyboard allows simultaneous left+right and up+down presses, many emulators has an option to not allow those presses to affect the gameplay in any shape or form. Niftski's emulator of choice is Nestopia and Nestopia has that option.
I kind of resented Niftski at first when he started sniping WRs because Kosmic is my fav SMB1 runner, but you can't help but respect the pure skill and gamesmanship
Nifski is example of "what happen if you always win". Not many people understand the fact that struggle is NEEDED in life, because if you overcome something that seems to be impossible, it's more rewarding to you when you finally done it. For any other speedrunner finally breaking the barrier and making it so close to be better, is always this dopamine rush to say "YES YOU'RE GETTING BETTER". But with how good Nifski is, it will not happen as often. And most of things is less celebration, but more "oh i did it". It reminds me of one fictional character that had problem he when looking on something understand how it work. He got frustrated, because that "joy of exploration and understanding" never happen to him and it became really boring, those so called "unsolved misteries". So i just say, be happy with your struggle. It makes your happy moments better.
Niftski is indeed an incredible player. He stands on the shoulders of giants too though. From all the greats who came before him, from AndrewG, Darbian, Kosmic, Somewes and others. What an incredible community and history, fitting of such an iconic game. Kosmic, not only your contributions to speedrunning the Mario games, but all the content and videos you've created have been thoroughly enjoyable to watch.
That's totally crazy! Wonderful video showcasing the insane level of skill and dedication needed for these runs. Almost seems impossible for a human to achieve this.
NIftski is in the league of his own. He owns this game at this point. He can do anything, even 4:54.265 is possible for him. And I can't wait to see him to this run.
Glad you did a video on Niftski. Following SM speedrunning, I'd heard of him of course. I had no idea of how quickly he accomplished his records though, OR that he could do it with a controller. That's absolutely bonkers.
Outer Wilds music emotionally sucker punching me lmao. Great video, lots of respect for anyone willing to stick to their convictions when it comes to their personal accomplishments to this degree.
To Niftski's credit, unlike modern "artists," he didn't think that that was a profound work of genius. Also, unlike modern art, getting good enough to make that run possible took a lot of work.
A phenomenal video. We are so fortunate as a community to have Kosmic. His contributions are immense - and this video is a beautifully crafted celebration of another of the greats. Congratulations Niftski - and contratulations Kosmic too. What an awesome time for Super Mario Bros.!
i really love all the professionally shot footage of andrewg, darbian, and niftski right next to the footage of you taking a massive chomp of pizza, wonderful little touch
The SMB1 event at PACE was just insane. I remember popping off watching the 4:55 and running into the practice room to tell my friends about it, only to emerge a little later to see him *ON PACE TO GET AN EVEN BETTER **4:55**.* Sadly I wasn’t in the venue when he got the 4:54 but that video was still awesome and i’m still shook it happened. Undeniably the GOAT also i got to commentate the warpless simul which was fun :)
As someone bumbling through B-side golden berries in Celeste, the example of getting records fast is what really sold me on how good this man is. I couldn't tell you how many hours I've wasted being the complete opposite of clutch on what should be otherwise straightforward tasks 😭 and this guy just waltzes through pressure like a freight train.
I've been waiting for a video that truly honoured how unbelievably insane Niftski is literally right now, and it's finally here! Spectacular video, enjoyed it all =)
Really love seeing this kind of content with one player celebrating another player who is, in some sense, his competitor. (He's many other things, too, no doubt, but also your competitor.) Well done.
In my 10 years of speedrunning, I honestly do not see how someone can be this good at their main game. Its the consistency. I can't think of anyone else that has been this consistent. There is always someone better that comes along, this game as shown it. However, this game is almost perfect. I wonder how he would do if he switched to some other games once he's done with Mario. Can he destroy those as well?
other Mario games have very different physics compared to this, and he's a keyboard player, many Mario games require a normal controller to play most likely he wouldn't
he has actually played a bit of red ball 1, and actually set a world record with a 2:37, though it's since been beaten by miniland with a 2:35. i'm sure he could make the jump to other games, since the main reason he's so phenomenal at smb1 is because he's insane at practicing everything.
Exited for the times where the leaderboard will not be "who's beaten super mario bros the fastest" but "who's beaten super mario bros the fastest the soonest". Maybe we'll have a handful of truly perfect runs in 20 years.
That would be impossible to verify. Once SMB1 Any% gets a perfect run, they'll just move to other categories. Once all categories get perfected, they'll just create new ones. Once they run out of ideas for new categories, they'll just start using ROM hacks voted in by the top runners. For example, you can double the number of categories for SMB1 by playing as Luigi with his SMB2 physics. New world records will continue to happen for centuries.
I'm one of those "keyboards, aint original hardware" doubters, so I particularly like you showing the things he can do on original hardware, thank you. Specially as I am particularly fond of the "both quests" category. At this point I can only assume his brain can operate at a higher frame rate then most people.
I don't get the keyboard fuss, I've played smb1 for nearly 30 years and can't for the life of me play it on a keyboard. Surely he's got to be an autistic savant to have the level of concentration at these crazy tight strategies.
@@DiThi you don't know him so it's dumb to assume things like that by that logic every top sports player has autism because they choose to spend their time trying to get as good as they can at their thing hes just a very talented guy at video games showing the world what he can achieve and enjoying it
I have a theory about Nifski. Most people when they get excited have a hard time concentrating, but some people can go into hyperfocus and become much better than they usually are. He's had enough, "I don't believe this is happening" to lead me to believe he's such a player. His excitement takes him to another level. To an All Time GOAT level.
I never suspected Niftski, but getting 4:54 on controller when you're keyboard main while practicing at live event and then absolutely destroying the event itself is enough of a confirmation for me that this guy is just a different breed.
The ability to switch between control layouts is quite impressive in its own right but honestly I've always just taken the view of "People who actually studied this down to individual frames say emulators are functionally identical as long as you don't use Illegal inputs like pressing left and right simultaneously so I'll take their word for it" This is some incredible skill frankly.
I took a break from watching speedrunning for a while, so this was really interesting. Nice of you to talk so positively about your fellow competitors, that's true sportsmanship.
Niftski switching from keyboard to controller is like when the anime protagonist takes off his weights and speed blitzes the opponent. It's not an advantage, it's a self imposed handicap! at least, that's how I see it lol
I’m really grateful Kosmic spent some of the video giving his perspective on using non-original hardware and/or using a keyboard. I’ve just always been curious what a fellow speed runner thought about it.
this guy is a genius! i really admire gamers with this kind of focus and dedication. kudos to you, speedrunner gamers! you guys are truly amazing and really insane!
Really liked the focus on his controller skill to shut up anti-keyboard folks (I have always been one of those anti-keyboard folks) thanks for converting me.
I don't doubt Niftski will be the one to get the perfect run and not the next gen. That said, it might be his only grind that takes several years with many breaks!
Whenever anybody is too good at speedrunning, I get nervous and start checking for Karl Jobst videos about it in my feed haha. He seems legit, though. Truly incredible.
Thankyou so much for this video, Kos. You've changed my mind on Niftski. I'm not a fan of the keyboard at all but those times at that event says it all. GOAT!
wouldn't it be funny if carljobs made a video on niftski in like a decade on how he cheated his way to take every single world record there is in super mario games?
See near daily world records at www.twitch.tv/niftski
Yessir
THANKSX kosmic you are so beast , really your community are good people
If we create a % so absurd that even niftiski would have trouble to beat it?
Bro, the Outer Wilds music at 14:30... 😙👌 Nice touch!
If Niftsky is so good, why doesn't he attempt other games? I'm sure there are very competitive backgrounds in games that he could enjoy. You don't need to go to GD and beat Bloodborne or anything
The fact that the TAS actually manages to be tied with Niftski is mind-blowing, technology has come so far
lol
Lmao
This might just be my new favorite comment
Now he could teach some chess to stockfish
😂😂😂
This is the first time that I’ve actually been worried about someone taking my record.
Under-rated 29-minute-old comment.
did you make this account just for this one comment
Yep
Lmao
please don't abondon this account
so many jokes can be made!
Great video! Niftski is a really incredible player, but I think one thing that him and Suigi have in common is their absolutely spotless practice etiquette. They are relentless at grinding down a trick until it becomes second nature, no matter how hard it is.
I agree. I learned from the best, and i do the same thing with Prince of Persia SNES. Life has been crazy lately, and no time for practicing or running, and yet, last Sunday, I got a new WR on a single attempt. Granted, PoP has way easier timing than SMB1, but putting in the practice one trick at a time definitely pays off!
I heard something like regular people practice til they it right, pros practice til they don't get it wrong
3rd
It seems like hardcore practice takes a lot of commitment. It can get very tedious, and attempts certainly get you more views. But I assume it's the most effective way to train. Imagine if basketball players practiced every day by spending just a few minutes on shooting drills followed by hours of full games.
love your videos, i'd like to see one done on super metroid too as oatsngoats recently got the WR in that too.
There's only one explanation. Niftski got his speedrunning ability via a wish granted from a monkeys paw. He wished to be an incredible speedrunner, and his wish came true but the cost? He would be so good, so effortlessly, that it would rob him of his joy.
Can he Speedrun Minecraft in every categories and every versions?
One Punch Man: the real life adaptation
the catch was... ⌨️
😮 jk
Some people just have the talent and find the right niche to use their God given skills.
I'm just hoping Niftski can find games that take a little longer to grind, that give him back the fun of grinding.
@@GrayCatbird1 one run man
At some point in the (probably distant?) future, SummoningSalt will have to make a video on "The Quest To Beat Niftski".
If Niftski is truly the GOAT, it will be the quest to match Niftski
The quest to perfect Super Mario Bros
or we will see the *Karl Jobst* title
"How the best super Mario speed runner was caught cheating"
@@ricolorenz7307you think niftski is cheating?
@@ricolorenz7307 infeasible. he got 4:56 first attempt live on NES hardware during a race, that'd be impossible to fake.
"He hopes that this grind actually takes him awhile this time"
this quote put a big dumb smile on my face lol
King Boo moment
dumb smile = best smile
It’s the guy!
Yo Trey
This guy is literally tied with the TAS
22 frames short. He is tied up till 8-4.
No, he is literally TAS
I, of all people, appreciate this comment. :)
can you press both left and right simultaneously on keyboard and, if so, will it be accepted?
@SayAhh you can but you have to disable left + right for the speedrun to be accepted. It's a setting in the emulator that you have to turn on/off or whatever.
Mad respect for Kosmic and the whole SMB speed run community for supporting other runners you're ostensibly competing with. Makes the community that much better when they stick up for each other like this.
yeah this is chill af
From what I've seen as an outsider a lot of these communities, especially at the top level, are really chill and will share strats and support each other. It's pretty sick.
@@jamesbryan558 Interestingly, they are like computer programmers in this regard, sharing their strategies freely with their competitors.
Holy crap that ending.
"You may only have one day left... Just kidding, it's already too late"
Niftski really is just too good. 😂😂
It's so bittersweet to be living through the final days of SMB1 speedrunning. He will tie the TAS all the way and then everyone will have to move on to other things. This feels a bit like the end of the DAS era of Tetris, as it was ultimately obsoleted by hypertapping. We will always remember the likes of AndrewG, Kosmic and Niftski in SMB1 like we remember the likes of Jonas, Greentea and Joseph, but at one point it's really the closing of an era, a story with a beginning and an end.
What does actually happen when the "perfect" run is accomplished? Do others just stop trying and the thing dies?
@@simple45679 people move on to other categories
@@hisham_hm nah he will just beat the tas
In 10 years Niftski grinding hard for 20 minutes to beat his 4:01 for his first sub4 only to achieve it during his warmup and ruin the fun of the grind.
@@hisham_hmthat is simply not true. People will still want to show that they can tie the record. Even if it impossible to beat it, you can still tie it.
Niftski's skills are what Billy Mitchell and Todd Rodgers claimed themselves to be, he's genuinely like some sort of speedrunning savant.
He starts his speedruns in second gear
Na ah, I just asked Todd and Billy, they both have a 3:22 for any%, absolutely obliterating the TAS.
And he has an special add that Billy lacks: HUMILITY TOWARDS HIS ACHIEVEMENTS.
Watch it turn out he's cheating ..
@kaldo8907 Could probably use a different analogy lol
While Niftski makes history, Kosmic will record it. This is some top-notch material, well done!
And then Summoning Salt will make a dramatic yet amazing hour long video on it.
@@Dimumoutocan’t wait for “the quest to beat niftski” to come out in a few years
This guy is literally the One Punch Man of speedrunning, getting so good that it actually bothers him 😂
your pfp made me happy :>
@@spacey_432 Back at ya Blooky :D
Stop
😂 for real.
Thought of the exact same comparison, yeah ;)
It feels like the true grind that would make Niftski happy at its depth and length is matching the TAS. If anyone can finally reach perfection it's him
The dread in his voice as he begs for someone to let him throw. Knowing exactly what it will mean if he makes it and exactly what it will mean if he throws. It's like he's having an existential crisis just being totally flabbergasted how it is possible to have his skill. He doesn't want it. Please, someone take it... It's like when Bruce Banner's dad tries to absorb the Hulk's energy, but it's just too much. He knows it, but nobody else will ever truly understand just how much pain his power can cause.
People in 2019: 4:54 is basically impossible
Niftski now: hold my pizza
But, you have to be eating pizza WHILE you're doing it, otherwise it doesn't work 🍕🥤
This is the best comment on this video hands down. Why does it only have 2 replies (including me)
more players got 4:54 nowadays, not just Niftski
@@lookas170I don't think you know the context. It's joke about thah fake speedrun, Karl Jobst made video about it.
Hold my coca cola
Yooo, that combined capture thing from that flibidi guy is so cool, this is a gamechanger
Also, Niftski is pretty much the oldschool 2D Mario equivalent of Suigi.. the new generation of speedrunners really is taking over, dem younguns are summat else
Honestly it's a relief that he's done real hardware live as verification, so yeah this is absolutely insane.
yeah, the video seems to be worship, I'm looking for some real information in here somewhere
@@Davesoftlook at what he did on live stream, in front of a crowd, on real hardware, and tell me he isn’t impressive. Surely that footage convinced you.
@@Numbabu of what? his divinity?
his unmatched skill @@Davesoft
@@Davesoft that he is good at the game
It's super interesting to see an expert in the field talk about someone at the pinnacle. You have the background to do it, and you articulate the details that we laymen probably wouldn't have caught because we aren't steeped in the intricacies of the process.
Thanks!
I have seen cheaters who don't have the audacity to pretend to be as good as Niftski really is.
Passing Super Mario in 5 minutes
7:52 Niftski is so fast that from the minute this was published this has become outdated
9:56 he also played Cookie Clicker for 3 seconds on a Livestream because he failed 1-2
11:32 Yhea 100% a while
18:41 THAT WAS ACUALLY TRUE!
What a legend
Wait, really?
the cookie clicker gameplay was edited in niftksi out of context, not actually part of the thing. funny reference regardless though
I like how "He's currently doing a speedrun of SMB" ends with a hard stop because chances are, right now irl he is
Are we sure Niftski isn’t just TASBot inside a skin suit? This dude is a MACHINE. Legend
let's ask dwango if he built something like that
When Niftski walks into a gun store, he asks for a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.
He’s tasbot in a trench coat
6 players on 1 screen is just awesome to watch. its like grandturismo trying to make a better time vs your shadow from earlier fastest rounds :D
Niftski is also a class act. Back during the second r/place, my group happened to start building the logo we were making on the same small plot that Niftski and his chat were building a smb1 design. I think he had more people than us so he could totally have just trampled us eventually, but he literally helped us move over to the left and had his twitch chat help us place blocks lmao. Soon enough he did the same with like 2-3 other groups in the area.
So yea, at one point Niftski had an alliance with Shotbow MC, some book series called Wings of Fire, and the Cleveland Browns.
When you're so good that you're ACTIVELY hoping that your attempts end in vain, that's when you know you're something else!
this is literally the plot of one punch man
@@elfabrip One punch man was good until they added a random god enemy type of guy who didn't die in one punch, it just ruined the whole concept
@@ictogonExcept they never did that
So this is the "tas" guy i keep hearing about, i'm starting to understand why he has the world record in every game ever made
which "tas" guy tho? niftski hasnt ran for example minecraft or gd or roblox parkour etc etc
@@trueffetbysyqualwe dont know his hobbies bro
@@trueffetbysyqual Please search your nearest dictionary for the word "Irony"
Who would want to run mine craft or roblox anyway
...me@@ScootsMcPoot
I really appreciate your thoughts on the keyboard debate. It really is such nonsense. Niftski is clearly the GOAT and i am honored to have met both him and you
If it's allowed it's allowed. But no question it's a lot more comfortable then the regular remote and being able to have 3 fingers to move/switch directions instead of 1 allows for a lot more precision. Yes "a lot" more.
@@skipperbut you can still use multiple fingers to move. look how most runners grip their nes controller.
@superl8296 you could but like I said it's just more comfortable for the player using a keyboard being a well known thing of how gamers use WASD. On the other hand the NES's controller d-pad was for single input directional inputs, 1 finger. Using claw grip or something similar on a NES just is not comfortable at all
@@skipperbut Thats preference at the end of the day. You can say its not comfortable but most top runners use a controller and like it a lot better. It only comes down to that. Your original comment implied you have an advantage on keyboard because you have multiple fingers which just isnt true
@@skipperbutIncorrect.
I think the reason it bothers Niftski to finish speedruns so fast is that this is his moment in the spotlight.
Think about it. Most of us are born with only one or two truly exceptional talents. When we finally get attention for those talents, we don't want the moment to end. We want to savor it. And we want the audience to connect with us in the right way.
Niftski has a gift for speedrunning, but he's so gifted that it actually hinders his ability to keep an audience in suspense and keep them emotionally invested in his runs.
What he's really saying when he quits the run is this: I want to be achieving this milestone when my full effort and intention is on it. I want myself and my audience to be in sync, on the edge of our seats, waiting to see if I can make it happen. I don't want it to be in a goofy category, with terrible setup, and nobody properly paying attention.
yes! exactly! speedrunning is only done because it's fun, so sacrificing milestones for the sake of fun isn't that horrible.
@@m0rty161 thats a good point i agree
Who the heck gets emotionally invested in speedruns, besides the runner, of course? I think most viewers see the title, watch for a second, go "oh, neat," and move to the next thing. It's not as glamorous as YT vids try to make it.
You’re the real goat man, making a praise video for the dude that beat you. Mad respect.
Just waiting for Niftski to do this while eating pizza and chugging Coke. He’s not truly dominate until he does that.
lol. Speedrunning has had enough of that.. hope he doesn't end up in a Karl Jobst video years down the line.. as Karl routinely says.. being the best doesn't make you any less likely to cheat in the future.
Him ending runs because he's on WR pace is both hilarious and sad at the same time. I hope him actually heading for TAS level gives him to satisfaction.
nice reference
Niftabun
@@ExtremeIsAwesome hes referencing the fake Mario speedrun video
@@asprika9702 I know. Doesn't really address my comment though, but thanks anyway.
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Making a video (rightly) praising Niftski while being a competitor is the bro move we all need to see more of.
I love how the people in the speedrunning community constantly sing each other's praises. Beautiful.
I'm not a speedrunner myself, I have just been getting into the whole topic a few years ago with a video about the history of Mirror's Edge speedruns and the techniques and glitches discovered.
I know it's not all like this, but something I really enjoy about the speedrunning community is how ya'll are so genuinely excited for one another once someone sets a new record. No doubt there is drama, and haters, but as a whole, the speedrunning community seems pretty wholesome.
Just my 2 cents, but ...
Speedrunning deals objectively with limits of human ability and TAS for guidance. As such "World Records" are actually just millstones. Will another human be born who can beat 9.58s in the 100m? Who knows. So Usain Bolt can look at his record is something that might never be beaten, and might even feel disappointed if it is.
Will a human, given enough time, beat the current WR for SMB? Yes. That's just a fact. We know that because the WR isn't at the theoretical limits of human ability. Unless you tie the task, you should never expect your record to hold for long ... and even then, new tech can change that. So why be disappointed by something that is inevitable?
While in other sports you are competing against other people, in a speedrun you are more competing with your personal best and the game itself. And after you try to "break" a game for 3 years, seeing someone else break the game even better then you did is actually pretty cathartic for most people.
@@stefansamoyloff3866 Please don't compare SMB speedrunning to the amazing efforts of Usain Bolt, holy...
@@Kamawan0 He didnt. He specifically said they ARENT comparable.
@@janah6473 We reading the same comment, luv?
@@Kamawan0 "Bolts record might never be broken" - "Niftskis record will definitely be broken"
I mean no offense when I say this:
But to CASUALLY beat kosmic's WR in a live event is on a different level. My goodness Niftski. He is The Wizard...
He may just have an impact as big as AndrewG, that's absolutely scary because Andrew was carving his legacy before this hyper optimized era
It makes me speechless how he is not only being dominant but he is probably the GOAT of SMB1
in kosmic's defense his record is the oldest, I don't doubt he can get a higher score if he tried
I’m honored to have been able to sit down with Niftski a couple years ago when he first hit 4:54 on SMB and he’s been amazingly consistent with world records ever since! Honestly bringing smb to its absolute limit
the degree of mutual respect in the speedrunning community is the most heartwarming thing
It's the only thing we have besides the mutual disrespect from people who don't get it 😂
eeeeeh ish. but I get what you mean.
Playing live in front of a crowd on a one hour limit and putting together a run better than anything Kosmic himself ever did in SMB1. I can't even.
I knew this was gonna be insane when an all-time legend is talking about somebody ELSE being insanely good at HIS game, but wow.
I can't even *imagine* literally becoming so good at a game that I become *emotionally compromised* and force a quit. At this stage, Niftski can hear colors and smell music.
The Outer Wilds Music at the one part gave me CHILLS
For those who're saying that Niftski's playing on Keyboard and keyboard allows simultaneous left+right and up+down presses, many emulators has an option to not allow those presses to affect the gameplay in any shape or form. Niftski's emulator of choice is Nestopia and Nestopia has that option.
I kind of resented Niftski at first when he started sniping WRs because Kosmic is my fav SMB1 runner, but you can't help but respect the pure skill and gamesmanship
My all-time favorite SMB1 speedrunner, making a video of my favorite SMB1 speedrunner, what a life !
Nifski is example of "what happen if you always win".
Not many people understand the fact that struggle is NEEDED in life, because if you overcome something that seems to be impossible, it's more rewarding to you when you finally done it.
For any other speedrunner finally breaking the barrier and making it so close to be better, is always this dopamine rush to say "YES YOU'RE GETTING BETTER".
But with how good Nifski is, it will not happen as often. And most of things is less celebration, but more "oh i did it".
It reminds me of one fictional character that had problem he when looking on something understand how it work. He got frustrated, because that "joy of exploration and understanding" never happen to him and it became really boring, those so called "unsolved misteries".
So i just say, be happy with your struggle. It makes your happy moments better.
But there are so many other things he could try and struggle at. Like talking to girls and stuff
The love and respect you're showing for a fellow runner is heart-warming.
8:00 4.54.798 lol niftski is so good the video is obsoleted before it’s even uploaded
I was just thinking that😂😂
If this guy ever does a subathon, hes going to beat every single world record in every single category within that one stream, mark my words.
from a storytelling perspective, that was the best possible ending. niftski is a god
THE FACT THAT HE DID IT BEFORE U FINISHED EDITING MADE THE VIDEO EVEN BETTER. PERFECT VIDEO TITLE 👌
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Niftski is indeed an incredible player.
He stands on the shoulders of giants too though. From all the greats who came before him, from AndrewG, Darbian, Kosmic, Somewes and others.
What an incredible community and history, fitting of such an iconic game. Kosmic, not only your contributions to speedrunning the Mario games, but all the content and videos you've created have been thoroughly enjoyable to watch.
That's totally crazy! Wonderful video showcasing the insane level of skill and dedication needed for these runs. Almost seems impossible for a human to achieve this.
Time flies! He's been uploading WRs constantly for like 2-3 years now lol
NIftski is in the league of his own. He owns this game at this point. He can do anything, even 4:54.265 is possible for him. And I can't wait to see him to this run.
Glad you did a video on Niftski. Following SM speedrunning, I'd heard of him of course. I had no idea of how quickly he accomplished his records though, OR that he could do it with a controller. That's absolutely bonkers.
Outer Wilds music emotionally sucker punching me lmao. Great video, lots of respect for anyone willing to stick to their convictions when it comes to their personal accomplishments to this degree.
Today (September 24th, 2023) is the 5th anniversary of the first 4:55 in this game by Kosmicd12. And 4:54.6xx is already here.
Nif's decision to kill the run at such a pace is modern art personified
To Niftski's credit, unlike modern "artists," he didn't think that that was a profound work of genius. Also, unlike modern art, getting good enough to make that run possible took a lot of work.
Only comparison is Ronnie O'Sullivan doing a 146 on purpose on the final red cause he wanted to protest how low the prize for a perfect 147 was now.
I think it should be considered self harm, and this man should be checked into a facility. Madness.
A phenomenal video. We are so fortunate as a community to have Kosmic. His contributions are immense - and this video is a beautifully crafted celebration of another of the greats. Congratulations Niftski - and contratulations Kosmic too. What an awesome time for Super Mario Bros.!
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i really love all the professionally shot footage of andrewg, darbian, and niftski right next to the footage of you taking a massive chomp of pizza, wonderful little touch
The SMB1 event at PACE was just insane. I remember popping off watching the 4:55 and running into the practice room to tell my friends about it, only to emerge a little later to see him *ON PACE TO GET AN EVEN BETTER **4:55**.* Sadly I wasn’t in the venue when he got the 4:54 but that video was still awesome and i’m still shook it happened. Undeniably the GOAT
also i got to commentate the warpless simul which was fun :)
BRO I FREAKED OUT AT 0:28 I LOVE DARK CLOUD
As someone bumbling through B-side golden berries in Celeste, the example of getting records fast is what really sold me on how good this man is. I couldn't tell you how many hours I've wasted being the complete opposite of clutch on what should be otherwise straightforward tasks 😭 and this guy just waltzes through pressure like a freight train.
Dancing train!
I love how you had to say:
"Worst Case Scenario, you get the greatest speedrun of all time" xD
I've been waiting for a video that truly honoured how unbelievably insane Niftski is literally right now, and it's finally here! Spectacular video, enjoyed it all =)
14:25 that low droning legitimately activated my fight or flight response even before I noticed I was hearing it
Really love seeing this kind of content with one player celebrating another player who is, in some sense, his competitor. (He's many other things, too, no doubt, but also your competitor.) Well done.
In my 10 years of speedrunning, I honestly do not see how someone can be this good at their main game. Its the consistency. I can't think of anyone else that has been this consistent. There is always someone better that comes along, this game as shown it. However, this game is almost perfect. I wonder how he would do if he switched to some other games once he's done with Mario. Can he destroy those as well?
other Mario games have very different physics compared to this, and he's a keyboard player, many Mario games require a normal controller to play
most likely he wouldn't
trackmania may be a good choice on keyboard
he has actually played a bit of red ball 1, and actually set a world record with a 2:37, though it's since been beaten by miniland with a 2:35. i'm sure he could make the jump to other games, since the main reason he's so phenomenal at smb1 is because he's insane at practicing everything.
@@electricpants8196 another main reason is that he has a great talent
@@lookas170i mean there is always sm63 *cough cough*
Exited for the times where the leaderboard will not be "who's beaten super mario bros the fastest" but "who's beaten super mario bros the fastest the soonest". Maybe we'll have a handful of truly perfect runs in 20 years.
That would be impossible to verify. Once SMB1 Any% gets a perfect run, they'll just move to other categories. Once all categories get perfected, they'll just create new ones. Once they run out of ideas for new categories, they'll just start using ROM hacks voted in by the top runners. For example, you can double the number of categories for SMB1 by playing as Luigi with his SMB2 physics. New world records will continue to happen for centuries.
Guy is speedrunning speedrunning
A year later, i am here to inform you that he is now speedrunning red ball, he is also a legend there 😂
I'm one of those "keyboards, aint original hardware" doubters, so I particularly like you showing the things he can do on original hardware, thank you. Specially as I am particularly fond of the "both quests" category. At this point I can only assume his brain can operate at a higher frame rate then most people.
Kosmic to world: Shut up about the keyboard. Niftski is a machine and it ain't the keyboard that's doing it. Talent knows talent.
His support for Niftski means a lot to me, as Kosmic uses only original hardware in his own runs. If he doesn't think it's unfair, then it's fair.
I don't get the keyboard fuss, I've played smb1 for nearly 30 years and can't for the life of me play it on a keyboard. Surely he's got to be an autistic savant to have the level of concentration at these crazy tight strategies.
@@Shaz8389 autism has nothing to do with his skill, buddy
@@lookas170 but it probably has a lot to do to how he chose to spend his time acquiring this skill
@@DiThi you don't know him so it's dumb to assume things like that
by that logic every top sports player has autism because they choose to spend their time trying to get as good as they can at their thing
hes just a very talented guy at video games showing the world what he can achieve and enjoying it
Yea he is goated lol it's dope to see the community recognizing it more and more
I don't know... Where's his slice of pizza and bottle of coke at?
I have a theory about Nifski. Most people when they get excited have a hard time concentrating, but some people can go into hyperfocus and become much better than they usually are. He's had enough, "I don't believe this is happening" to lead me to believe he's such a player. His excitement takes him to another level. To an All Time GOAT level.
Kosmic is a true sport for showing such high praise to a fellow competitor, both god-tier runners!
If Nifski ever gets exposed as a cheater then I'm not trusting any speedrunner anymore.
I never suspected Niftski, but getting 4:54 on controller when you're keyboard main while practicing at live event and then absolutely destroying the event itself is enough of a confirmation for me that this guy is just a different breed.
At this point it would take more skill to have been cheating successfully all this time than it would to just do the runs.
RIGHT????@@Syllaren
@@tdpmati1949 he might be a different breed, but remember the words from Karl: being the best doesn't make you any less likely to cheat
live performance on official hardware is a good tell that its legit
Aight, imma getting some snacks to see his perfect run in 3 days.
Niftski is so unbelievable that I wouldn't be surprised if there's a new person reviewing his input cam for cheating every other day. He's too much.
The ability to switch between control layouts is quite impressive in its own right but honestly I've always just taken the view of "People who actually studied this down to individual frames say emulators are functionally identical as long as you don't use Illegal inputs like pressing left and right simultaneously so I'll take their word for it"
This is some incredible skill frankly.
I took a break from watching speedrunning for a while, so this was really interesting.
Nice of you to talk so positively about your fellow competitors, that's true sportsmanship.
I hope TAS can catch up when Niftski finds a new strategy
nifstki is so good at speedrunning that he is speedrunning WR speedruns
Niftski switching from keyboard to controller is like when the anime protagonist takes off his weights and speed blitzes the opponent.
It's not an advantage, it's a self imposed handicap! at least, that's how I see it lol
Multiple players on one screen is a game changer. Will make it so much easier for newcomers to see/learn best strats.
what kills me is my backup life strategy was just to get world record at SMB, and Niftski just keeps burying my dreams
So he is speedrunning speedrunning itself.
I’m really grateful Kosmic spent some of the video giving his perspective on using non-original hardware and/or using a keyboard. I’ve just always been curious what a fellow speed runner thought about it.
niftski is the player of all time
6:05 What a great tech. Makes races like this *SO* much more enjoyable as a viewer.
this guy is a genius! i really admire gamers with this kind of focus and dedication. kudos to you, speedrunner gamers! you guys are truly amazing and really insane!
Really liked the focus on his controller skill to shut up anti-keyboard folks (I have always been one of those anti-keyboard folks) thanks for converting me.
Niftski is honestly the goat of smb1 and probably will be until someone gets 4:54.265
I don't doubt Niftski will be the one to get the perfect run and not the next gen. That said, it might be his only grind that takes several years with many breaks!
The bowsers inside story music documenting his insane world record progression fit so well
The Coke and Pizza at 1:45 killed me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 That is genius, I love the subtle reference to that famous cheating case haha.
where is it though? I don't see either of those at that time stamp?
@@SnoFitzroytry 1:49
Whenever anybody is too good at speedrunning, I get nervous and start checking for Karl Jobst videos about it in my feed haha. He seems legit, though. Truly incredible.
yeah the pace event is just undeniable lol. He's actually insane
Thankyou so much for this video, Kos.
You've changed my mind on Niftski. I'm not a fan of the keyboard at all but those times at that event says it all.
GOAT!
I'm convinced niftski made a wish on a genie to be a god at this game
I want to see him try Super Metroid
wouldn't it be funny if carljobs made a video on niftski in like a decade on how he cheated his way to take every single world record there is in super mario games?
I was thinking that lol. A lot of the cheaters are utterly amazing players who just want to be on that next level
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