Michael, great show but like so many American's you do have a blind spot for the chaos the US causes in the world. Roger gave you sound advice to expand your reading and to open your eyes wider.
Watched this many times, tears in my eyes. As an ethnic Chinese, with family living in both mainland and Taiwan, enough of lies the MSM has spread, enough of hatred it had caused. Unbelievable arrogance and ignorance. Thanks Roger for seeing the world with your own eyes and being brave enough to tell the truth 💖
16 years? OK. I will believe you are real. If I take you at face value, I am lead to believe, that you believe Taiwan is part of China and is not an independent nation. If this is correct, what are your thoughts on the inevitable war that China will unleash to reclaim its "wayward province "?
@@aggravatedassociate8237 not even Taiwan itself claims to be an independent nation. Learn some history. They themselves will tell you that they are part of China. After all, Taiwan = ROC (Republic of China). The question between the PRC and the ROC is not rather its independent or not, it's about who is the legitimate government of China. The US, UN and 180+ countries recognize Beijing as the legitimate government of China and that Taiwan is part of China.
@ Aggravated Associate I was born in Taiwan. Taiwan is part of China is a fact not just a belief. The sad history of the civil war separated two sides of the strait. We hope both side can reunite peacefully. However, if there is anyone on Taiwan island trying to separate it from China, there will be inevitable to resume the temporarily stopped civil war.
There's an old Buddhist piece of wisdom..."if you want to understand the present situation, then look at past events. If you want to consider future outcomes, consider the present actions."
Look at the history? In what respect?? Like when a maniac that wants to kill all the Jews and take over all of Europe invaded sovereign countries then bastions of freedom like the UK and America and France, decide to fight against that evil. Yeah look at the history indeed aditya!!
Very very few would dare to speak the truth, but this man has always been on the side of the truth. And nowadays, when LIES are all we get from Media, telling the truth is so revolutionary... I wish many others had the courage to stand up to Goebels' countless BIG LIARS We 💜 U Roger !! BRAVO !!
I think it is worse than that. Corporate media rarely gives anti-war, anti-imperialism, anti-capitalist voices any room on corporate media. So we are all left with the impression that the topics and framing that corporate media makes room for are the only views that are correct. These media outlets have their own ideology and bias (and other corporate sponsors that are paying their bills). It is reflected in the type of discourse they allow on air. They used to allow a lot more people like Roger Waters speak their minds to their audiences. They are too afraid of losing advertisers nowadays.
How do you know if he tells lies or truth. I hear full of BS… he s paid to air his ‘opinion’ and it’s really up to you to believe it but make sure to use your independent thinking, just sayin
ROTFLOL! HILARIOUS! Says the Putin troll to the CCP troll. ROGER WATERS IS A FASCIST. Putin and Xi are guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Russia and China are grossly inhumane fascist states and all fascist dictators regimes MUST DIE.
@@nickpalmer54 there is only one delusion - is that WEST is honest and don't ruin other countries by military force, especially USA forces. People killed, robbed in Iraq, Lybia, Afganistan, did you care? Does it brought them better life? No, their were brutally robbed and killed and abandoned in poor land by USA. Because of that actions, we have terrorists attacks in the Western countries, to make you wake up and understand that the lost their families, homes and now YOU(ordinary guy) will pay price for it. What else do you need to get it?
Just saw him last night in Glendale, AZ. Amazing show. No artist puts as much heart into their show as he does. It is sad that people can "hear" Pink Floyd songs, but never actually "listen" to them. Absolutely my favorite band of all time. Thank you, Roger Waters.
I was there in glendale too, great show that moved me but also very interesting to learn more about a perspective that I hadn't been exposed to before.
@@marky1974 My post is seven months old. Putin and pretty most of our leaders are all war criminals. The fact that we wouldn't even negotiate a peace deal with Russia makes us just as culpable. Lord knows we would have don't the same thing if China was going to make a military deal with Mexico. But we have to keep our own war machine crawling. What a better way to test our newest weapons than to use them in someone else's war.
I dont watch CNN anymore or any of those mainsteam liars but Ronger Waters clip is doing several rounds on many Channels. I could not resist looking for the full version. Kudos to the CNN guy posting the whole version even though Roger kept on giving him knockouts. Thank God for people like Roger; the world might...just might escape total destruction.
It's funny you think Roger got one over Michael. Michael is way smarter and more knowledgeable the Roger could ever dream of on these issues. He's just a blowhard with a platform
His takes are fucking terrible, pure Putin/Xi propaganda, when did he become lobotomised? Must have been in the past couple of years I'm guessing he spends his time watching Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand whilst watching TV News that advertises itself as "anti-Mainstream" yet seems to do nothing but promote Russian/Chinese interests whilst telling you how terrible America is, he probably sits in an online echochamber of some sort as well.
Same here, I don't watch CNN anymore. Only watched this full interview with Roger Waters. Very few are willing to speak up and speak their mind. Kudos to Roger Waters for doing that.
Wait, what?! He's defending the Chinese on Taiwan...? Isn't it clear that the Taiwanese don't want anything to do with Communist China? What about the will of the Taiwanese people... he's Ok to give that choice to people of Donbas but the Taiwanese...oh no, that would offend the Chinese 😱 And he talks of the Paris Declaration and in the next 10 minutes he's talking about China not being a Human Rights violater? Has he not heard of Tibet and Xinjiang? Looks like he's still stuck in his 1940s romantic obsession with communism... either that or, the Alzheimer's onset is pretty rapid...
Honestly I want to commend Smercornish for this, but in a way the damage has been done, Europe is suffering, there is no more trust between the public and elites, I dont think its even worth teenagers planning to go to university becuase education is compromised and had lost its value or meaning it just an elite factory.
IMAGINE THIS: YOU DO AN INTERVIEW TO ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS MUSICIANS TODAY, HE DISARTICULATE YOUR RUBBISH POLITICS NARRATIVE BECAUSE YOU ARE A RIGHT-WING JOURNALIST WHO TURNS RED WHEN WATERS TELL YOU TO READ MORE, AND THEN YOU DECIDE NOT TO PUBLISH THE INTERVIEW OR WORST, YOU CENSOR SOME PARTS OF IT. WELL... HE HAD TO PUBLISH IT, HE HAD NO CHOICE, HE IS AN EMPLOYEE, EVEN THOUGH WATERS DESTROYS HIM.
@@petru4335 right wing? You think that dude is an Anarcho capitalist? You think someone who works for a big corporation believes in free markets? Lol, you also need to read a bit. Roger is only half honest and that puppet of an interviewer is a robot.
Intelligent man. The US government never keep their words: Iran nuclear deal, the Minsk agreement, the Shanghai Communique Agreement, the Paris Accord, etc.
18:40, fantastic story about Rogers’s mum & the advice she gave him aged 13. “You’re going to struggle with things all through your life. My advice is read everything you can. Then, all the heavy lifting is done. They next bit’s easy, Roger. Do the right thing”.
Michael's mistake was to say China is the top of everyone's agenda. Who'se agenda? Of course the west and particularly America when there are still thousands of Native Americans that are treated unfairly from ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY PLUS YEARS AGO. I live in China and see first hand how the vast majority have benefitted, how 600+m have been raised from abject poverty while in America you have a rising number of people dependant on food banks and food stamps - who is going in the right direction?
Thank you Roger Waters !!!You are a great human being!!At least i am glad that there is still great musicians from Britain that actually read the history and knows what they talk about.!!!Your speech is so important !!
"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17 "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:38-39`
The world would be a much better place if there is more people like Roger Waters who is open minded enough to think the Russians and the Chinese aren't sent by the devil.
Yes the people of Russia and China are hostage to their leaders as much as US citizens are. There are lots of people who unfortunately become bots of these leaders and repeat the propaganda, making the corrupt leaders job easier, but I hold out hope we may start to break through this more.
@@jyutzler but 1. you only know them thru, mainly, western media which is biased and propaganda driven. 2. what's the job of these rulers/governments, is it to look after the interest of it's own people and country, or to please the West? because at least 70-80% of Chinese love their own government.
@@kafkakafka516 Wait, you're going to lecture me about western media when Chinese and Russian media is literally controlled by their governments? Come on. I'm not going to argue with Roger when he calls out the West's problems but I completely agree with Smerconish when he says Roger is giving Russia and China a pass. And let's face it, people aren't exactly looking to move to those places.
I saw him in Cincinnati last month after waiting 2 years from fucking covid. It was stellar. Apocalyptic , dark , brutal , and very sobering. I fought off tears for the first 3 or 4 songs because it was such a powerful performance.
The only thing I knew about Pink Floyd was that it was a band from the 60s. Now I know differently. What a brilliant man this Roger Waters is. His perspective and analysis of the world as it stands today is nothing if not phenomenal.
Roger always speaks the truth. Very intelligent and well informed. We live in a society of ppl wanting to be “politically correct” when in fact they are far from being anything but correct. Roger treats ppl equally. No one is better than! His show was fabulous in Philly! Keep on doing what you’re doing.
I cant believe people think this way. Russia is not The country you want to side with. I support whatever is in My own countrys best interest, And at The moment it sure as Hell is to NOT give in to russia. Is America a good side? Definately not, but Americans are free to Voice their opinions at least. That makes USA The better of The two
@@КонстантинХомяков-э3ф to Be fair to you i only saw Part of The interview but what i saw i disagreed completely. I cant imagine what kind of a man supports russian government on these Times, its like saying nazis were right when conquering sudetenlands.
@@anttitheinternetguy3213 I’m russian bro 😎 and I recommend you to find full version of interview, and of course listen carefully to Roger’s advice- every time try to get full version of every information and knowledge 🤷♂️ it helps you to see the difference and truth (🤥 ). I grew up with Roger’s poetry, listen to him closely - he’s real man of peace ✌🏼 talent and strong. And he is a patriot of course. It’s normal to love your home and family. I respect him for that too. Like mr. Oliver Stone for example. I’m so brought up to respect honesty, wisdom, age, experience, talent and firstly humanity. And Roger just advised you to listen, explore, read more than simple slogan 🤷♂️ isn’t it normal for wise people? Open your eyes and hearts. That’s it. I hope that maybe a part of Americans hears him. Sorry for my English friend but I think it’s much better than your Russian 😉 All the best ✋🏾
Roger Waters simply revealed himself to be a flaming hypocrite who got rich off and lives safely in a free society while praising hyper corrupt war criminals and mass murdering fascists who imprison, poison and assassinate those who dare criticize them. Everybody in free societies is nauseated by him. Thats why the only ones who praise him are the low paid Russian and Chinese trolls who live on their knees with mouths wide open for the tyrants who oppress their own people.
Geez, when American talking about human rights and spreading ''democracy" in every corner of the world, it makes my blood boil. Who gave you the right, America? Mind your own business. Thank you, Roger Waters for speaking the truth.
ROTFLOL! Yes, civil rights are "evil" and mass murdering, hyper corrupt war criminals like Putin and Xi are "good"! LOL!!! What raised you? A forrest animal?
Never have to fear questions or accusations if you know the truth. Roger is a true hero and everything he says is soooo true. He isn't giving Russians the pass, he's talking facts.
Whilst I agree with much of Roger's politican reasoning and the gist of his argument, he is slightly naive on human rights and China. And I'd put to him the term 'passive aggression' which is something China has perfected. He said China has never invaded any country or taken part in any major conflicts: Tibet? Vietnam? Korea? China took over Tibet, an entire nation. Tibet didn't resist and not a single bullet was fired, but they took over a country by threat of force and began replacing its culture none the less. China was instrumental in the Korean war and has backed North Korea (one of the most evil regimes on earth that has zero human rights) to this day. Vietnam, China backed the Communists and fought a proxy war against the US along with USSR. China has an appalling human rights record in its own country. Millions died during the time of Chairman Mao. More recently, China has attacked its own Muslim community and puts thousands and thousands in prison camps or re-education camps to de-Islamify them. China promised to respect the independence and democracy of Hong Kong during the 1998-1999 hand-over from Britain, but has slowly erroded the rights of Hong Kong Chinese and even attacks or imprisons them when they protest so they now hold up blank sheets of paper, same as people do in mainland China. Taiwan is a democracy that wishes to be self-governed independent of China, but China is saying is must be re-unified with China by choice or by force. A basic fundamental human right is the right to self-determination of a people. The right to choose and elect a government. China doesn't hold to that principle. It's one of the countries that hasn't signed the Human Rights Charter. But all that said, even my own country the UK is far from perfect on human rights, despite being a founding signature to the UNHR Charter. People are imprisoned here for political incorrectness, wrong thinking or expression. Freedom of speech is restricted. Freedom of political association is restricted. Freedom of assembly and the right to protest is restricted. Just to different levels, but not unlike China in many ways if you go in a direction the government doesn't like. Roger is correct about the Russian Ukraine situation. Most people have absolutely no idea how, why or when this conflict started and the long diplomatic and legal struggle Russia went through before it got to the stage of Putin using full Russian military intervention on Ukraine. And I don't even think he even expected it to be a war. He expected no resistance and the government to fall quite quickly just by a show of overwhelming Russian force. His intelligence and calculations were flawed and things quickly spiralled out of control. Suddenly the Western world has turned on Russia and isolated it economically. Russia is now in a proxy-war with a US/Western NATO alliance basically, with Ukraine being used to fight a war on Russia for them. Ukraine is the battle-ground for a power struggle between the West and Russia, just as it was 170 years ago in the Crimean War. The path towards Russia deciding to take military action on Ukraine against a government it considered hostile to Russian people and Russia itself started right back in 2008 as Roger said. With limited intervention in Dombas using militias to back Russian separatists who were being supressed and killed. Then it escalated from there. The Minsk Agreements of 2014 and 2015 were a final diplomatic international attempt to resolve these issues between Ukraine and Russia, and the West brokered that and co-signed. In those agreements, Ukraine conceded that Crimea was part of the Russian Federation, respected the referendum of the majority ethnic Russian population to be identified as Russian nationals, and it addressed the Russian separatist problems in the three Dombas regions, that were being socially, politically marginalised and attacked by the Ukranian government. Both sides, Russia and Ukraine have breached the Minsk Agreements, but Ukraine more so in stating Crimea is part of Ukraine and they intend to take it by force, when they conceded it as Russian Federation territory in an international agreement and agreed to respect the referendum outcome. Crimea has been part of Russia for 199 years, Ukraine has absolutely no legal basis to claim Crimea is part of Ukraine. To Russia, that's a declaration of war on Russia itself. So why are people perplexed that Russia has such an anti-Western position and decided it had no option left but to take military action against Ukraine, a government that violated two international agreements, had become hostile towards ethnic Russian people and the Russian State itself? Russian tried to settle its issues with Ukraine by every diplomatic and legal way possible, and the West was part of that process, but is now arming Ukraine instead of saying, hold on, we had an agreement here, what went wrong, let's sit down and work this out...people talk about finding a peaceful resolution, there is one the Minsk Agreement II. If both sides just kept to their word and the international community kept to its word, the war could end. What Russia is asking for is not unreasonable.Yes it's gone too far and the Special Military Operation has gone completely out of control and nobody can excuse what Putin and Russia is doing, but they feel betrayed, ignored and supressed by the West who only follows the rule of law, and democracy when it suits their own interests...there's a very hypocritical double-standard going on by the West when it comes to Western democracy and interests, and Russia's. When it's Russia's interests, nobody cares. There is also still a lot of corruption in Ukraine. Even the current President has dubious involvment with a Russian company, and Ukranian Oligarch billionaires (yes they exist, but no news reports on that!) with tens of millions of dollars held by him and others close to him, using off-shore companies in tax-havens that hold multi-million pound properties in the UK and Europe. That may shock some people, but it's true. Google it. Everything isn't black and white, good guy, bad guy as the media presents it. They like to dumb-down things for the masses. Like Roger said, it's cause and effect. There's always a reason behind the effects, a history and a story. We're only seeing the effects and one side of the story. Why is the West keeping the war going in Ukraine and sending more and more arms? Why aren't they trying to make every effort to reach a diplomatic resolution with Russia? Why didn't this process start when the tanks were lined up before a single shot was fired? Why were France's efforts dismissed? We hear 'Russia must be defeated, its military degraded' over and over. How do you think Russian's feel hearing that? Are they likely to trust or like the West? Like Roger said, how would the US feel, if China started building up a global military coalition around the world and put nukes and military bases with 100,000 troops on the Mexico border and around the world by US interests? Look what happened when the USSR put nuclear missiles on Cuba, we very nearly had a nuclear WWIII! And yet Russia is expected to tolerate Ukraine becoming a NATO possibly nuclear armed state with an antagonistic government on its border, and Finland with a 1,000km border being another US base and NATO country? And people are alarmed when Russia re-assets its nuclear deterrent position. It's called nuclear threats and blackmail. Yet there are nuclear bases all over Europe with missiles pointed at Russia and nuclear armed submarines around Russia. The US conducted several nuclear tests in the Indian ocean, nobody said a thing. Russia tests a nuclear missile everyone is critical. If we want peace, we need to de-escalate tensions, not escalate them. Nearly everything the US and NATO does seems to esalate and create tensions. Everyone is an enemy or threat if they have a different style of government, but sadly the world isn't perfect and neither is the US itself. Is arming Taiwan helping ease tensions with China? Or sending spy planes over China and doing training exrcises in the South China Sea and putting the US navy fleets there helping China-US relations? Constant negative news about China and absurd stories about them being the number one threat, intent on taking over the world and their military exceeding the US in a few years...China is preparing to invade Taiwan real soon, when China says the opposite..it has no intention or desire to invade Taiwan, it seeks peaceful re-unification but must show its strength, capability and willingness to defend itself also, just as the US does, only right on China's doorstep. China's military won't achieve even parity with the US military until 2050 at the current levels even if the US military doesn't expand further, according to China. China doesn't want to be a military super-power to rival the US and has no global ambitions to challenge NATO. It just wants to be able to defend itself against a possible US/Western attack and protect its regional interests and space. That's China's official stated position, but that's not what's reported. The world isn't perfect and sadly not all countries respect human rights or the rule of international law fully. However using aggression to solve that won't make it better or the world safer. That's a lesson we've learned over and over. Look at the state of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and many other countries now after decades of US-led regime changes. How many major regime changes has Russia been involved in by comparison post-USSR, or China? Who is the main global aggressor from the Russian, Chinese, India and North Korea prospective? Perhaps that's why they feel threatened, maybe they'll be next to be invaded! "if you want to understand the present situation, then look at past events. If you want to consider future outcomes, consider the present actions." - Buddhist wisdom.
Crikey! I read ALL of that & agreed with almost all of it (as well as learning a couple of things). Global politics, socio-economics, fiscal & foreign policy, etc. ISN’T exactly something that is easily understood, let alone convivially debated, lol. ‘Our Rog’ has a platform & uses it to the best of his ability with, I believe, the best of intentions. One can’t say fairer than that. He’s not a bad fella, eh! Plus he’s made some fucking cracking albums.
Thank you Roger for speaking up for China. At the end of this interview, Roger's sincere speech on Taiwan and China's human rights has been swiped on the Chinese Internet in the past two days.
@@goatfokerkadyrov7528 you believe in what you believe in. The lie was originated from mike pompeo. If you didnt know what kind of a person he is, i suggest reading it up. His most famous quote as a former head of CIA is ”we lie, we steal, we cheat.” And no country’s leaders recognizes the lie. It’s the western media and politicians who keep spreading the lie, but ask macron, trudeau, and biden. Even the far right morrison from Australia refuses to make an official statement about it. I wonder why. Also, any hard evidence? Like satellite images and stuff? Only empty talks and some “interviews” from people whose lies were debunked by their own families living in Xinjiang. Well, i think it would have been much easier if Chinese government held their families hostage to shut these “speakers” or “victims” up right? Do you see that lots of logic here just dont add up? Also, urghurs are only half of the muslim population in China, every okay sized city has mosques and muslim population. I suggest you go and see for yourself, and ask the Uyghurs directly. I’m typing all these assuming you are not a bot. But if you are, kindly ignore.
A multi-millionaire, who is touring non-stop with 40+ year old material for big money, lecturing us about how everybody else are supposedly just doing things for profit? Hilarious - and sad. Oh, and China and Russia, those beacons of democracy, are 100 trustworthy? Roger, you are a joke - and it's high time to pack it in.
I respect this interview a lot more after watching the full uncut version. While I don't personally fancy the interviewer's ways, this uncut version is a lot more real and human than the edited down, butchered version on CNN.
@Bryan Mack , no, I don’t expect anything from anyone. The talk is about CNN and how they manipulate or highlight the voices they want their audience to hear, AND you are free to go and check what TC does in his shows and keep comparing. Geez.
Thank you so much, Roger, for your music and speaking truth from Russia! This is not the first time in history that Russia fights lies, and not the last time it will win :)
Fantastic interview, absolutely love Roger. Also much respect to the interviewer, who may disagree with Roger but does not try to shut him down, instead he listens and tries to understand his point of view. Great stuff.
Thank you Michael, even though your opinions went into completely opposite directions, but you still posted this, hats off for that! I must say Roger Waters opinions on the Ukrain-Russia war totally made me scream as I was saying the exact same thing since the war started. So thanks again for this amazing clip.
Opinions are not facts!! Waters gave facts and truth, Merco gave lies after lies. Dare to call this CNN minion for what he is: a liar for the corporate elite.
@@timontide6404 swallow your own BS Timon, stay the minion you chose to be, people will enjoy laughing at you in public. Shame is joyful to watch. Thank you for the show.
@@endtimes814 why would there be any need for analysis? He flat out rubbished the idea that , a country who ran sweat shops that use child slave labour, who are currently treating covid stricken people like cattle. China are huge violators of human rights. He’s clearly too wired to the moon and far too busy pointing the finger at the west to know what goes on elsewhere. I think people need to remember he was the bass guitar player for Pink Floyd, his political opinions aren’t worth any more than the average man on the street, but fans just eat up whatever shit he feeds them because he can write good songs. People should also be wary of hanging on the words of a man who absolutely never refuses to accept that he could be wrong about anything, which is part of the reason he can’t maintain relationships, because he has to be right about everything.
I love PINK FLOYD music of my youth. and I love how the founder of Pink Floyd talks the real truth about russia ukraine conflict and truth about american president...
@Basik Notice how no one thinks you have anything valid to say? I see you have another comment about the alleged Uighur genocide" that's an odd genocide where the population INCREASES every year and infant mortality goes down🙄. The primary "source" for all that nonsense is a man who is not Chinese,does not live in China and is paid by the completely exposed NED, I mean they openly boast about doing openly what the CIA used to do covertly,which is trying to foment regime change.
@Basik you’re honestly a fool to deride those people that bothered to research the reality of the world outside our own borders; beyond the confined boundaries of corporate media discourse, with your absurdly biased narratives wrt U.S foreign policy decisions that routinely parrot the state dept.’s propaganda lines rather than investigate any conflict in earnest, especially when that news concerns a nation that has the potential to bring in just as much advertising revenue with a redscare headline to garner more clicks.
@Basik You’re also sorely mistaken if you think anyone in this comment section is a Qcultist. Last I checked those dinguses don’t even believe there IS a war going on in Ukraine, those of us that actually researched a variety of sources instead of skimming a CNN article know that there is indeed a war going on, just that it’s been an escalation of several conflicts since at least 2014, with breaches of the Minsk agreements on both sides, after 3300+ civilians were killed during the years of shelling that the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk. That figure is from UNICEF btw, not a Kremlin-ran media outlet. The point roger and I believe the other commenters are trying to convey is that the situation is not a matter of black and white/good vs evil as the CNN presenter implies, because he knows his salary relies on his ability to obfuscate the truth like the partisan hack he is.
@Basik , You seem --for a political junkie--whatever that is supposed to mean to have difficulty understanding English. Waters "position" is for humanity. Not for a war machine for an Empire pretending to be a "democracy."
@Basik totally agree with you! Waters knows nothing about millions of dead since 1950 in China, under the name of "People" republic of china. So ignorance that he still says he is telling the truth? And tells others to read books ? Sigh.....🙈🙉🙊
@Basik if the Chinese didn't slaughter people from other countries, not as far as you can tell, why would you think the narrative that the Chinese slaughtered their own countrymen is true?
@Basik The program is 28 minutes and 52 seconds long,you should be able to enumerate the lies from that,yet with no surprise at all you cite exactly NONE
@@shaund4978 People in Europe and USA do not know history of Russiaa or Ukraine. Most can not even find Ukraine on the map. They just believe mass media. Roger spoke the real thruth and I see he knows history of Russia, China. Ukraine, etc. People should read more. Mass media making me puke. Now Ukrainians saying that Roger was telling us Russian propaganda. They always do if somebody tells the truth which they don't like.
@@mafon73 lmao nice blanket statement "most cant find ukraine on a map" very objective and unbiased of you. I can tell you are way too emotional. Russia promised it wouldnt attack ukraine if it got rid of nuclear program, what happened to that? Why doesnt roger mention that? Or the genocide in china? You and him should go live there together. Have fun. 😂
@@shaund4978 "factual" aka the one sided propaganda in the West. As someone who moved here, I'm blown away by how people here think what they're taught is real and what everyone else is taught is fake. Even amongst Americans, half live in one reality and the other live in another reality. Yet you still can't see that your "truth" might not be the whole story. SAD!
Roger is one of the few artists that step up. If you remove activism and political consciousness from art, it becomes sterile in a sort of way. Political activism results from an impulse of the soul that is not comfortable with injustice.
"Perceived injustice" is the correct wording. The man is as wrong as he can be. I mean, the Soviets saved the world from National Socialism? Really? The Soviets who had a peace pact (Ribbentrop-Molotov) with them and were separating Poland among them and performed massacres like the one in Katyn forest? The Soviets who at the same time invaded Finland? The Soviets who, without American aid they wouldn't stand a chance against the Germans? The guy doesn't know what he's talking about. And then this "unfettered capitalism" statement! Where did he see that? If there is a reality today is OVEREGULATED capitalism (which creates many of the current lobbying problems). The man is so wrong it hurts to listen to him!
@@C_R_O_M________ brother why us waited so much time to go to war against germany. Why they did it only when the soviets were entering Berlin? Less hollywood movies brother.
From Moscow: THANK YOU, mr Waters, and thank you, mr Journalist, for not cutting stuff out ❤❤Amazing! When will people start thinking critically ?! Not many enough them listen to Pink Floyd, i guess. And want to just cosume. Thank you from the bottom of the heart.
@@tatianahanz9783 it’s definitely good. They are helping the people in the Donbas who would have been crushed by Ukraine and their massively build up army (with help of the west). The majority of infantry fighting against the Ukrainian military are the Donetsk and Luhansk militias. People who live in East Ukraine (or who had to flee). You don’t give af about these people and you want them crushed. So stop acting like you are this great person for supporting Ukraine. You aren’t.
@@arminius504 ruZZia started the war in 2014,( girkin, zaharchenko, Motorola) All fights were fueled by ru ZZia. Mass murders, rape of children. Ukraine is sovereign country. Why did putin invade Ukraine? Why ruzzia didn't let Chechnya go?
"But what about our role as liberators ?" Jeez, some Americans still think like this!?! I mean there world is in a hell of a state, its true, but liberators..? Hope the show comes to the uk.
"Role as liberators" is just code for, "we're the culturally superior western imperialist and we get to determine how you live your life because we're better than you".
What's truly amazing is that this was always a neocon position, no rock journalist would have dared say such a thing a few years ago. The left has fully embraced fascism.
Telling the truth.. This is the hardest part for any prominent artist. Roger Waters is a champion of seeking the truth as reflected in his brilliant music for years. Thank God we have him..
As a Chinese citizen, I don’t understand where you guys get the idea of us being slaughtered by our own gvt, sure the CCP did make some terrible mistakes before, but now I would say the people are living in good condition, some say we are oppressed by our gvt, but no, our gvt actually provides a lot of social welfare for us, they listen to our comments, I don’t know why the Western media made China sounds like North Korea, I have a lot of Taiwanese friends, they are treated equally in China as we all do. So please, before you criticize a country, go and actually be there yourself and live there and THEN you will have the idea of what’s real and what’s not
Sure China is not like North Korea but critizing the government with a loud voice still get people in trouble and that's alot different than most countries in the world. The controls over all culture aspects are still too tight. Individuals sacrifice too much for the collective good. I would say it is bearable but bearly.
@@beeragainsthumanity1420 bruh, I know it’s a meme and I kinda find it funny, but pls don’t take it serious, we do have a social credit system in China, but it’s for BUSINESS, for example, if a business asked banks for loans and don’t pay back in time, they will have a low credit, and later on banks might not lend them any loans or even shut down the business if they can’t be trusted
I love Roger. I am 27 and he has helped shaped my outlook on the world. Thank you for everything you do and anyone who reads this stay safe, stay intelligent, and don’t ever give up
Thank you so much, Roger Waters, for having the balls to speak the truth. You are on the right side of history. The world needs more people like you at this time.....
@@shaund4978 The Ukrainian Government started the genocide when the people of the Donbass region tried to break away from them after the US orchestrated a coup to overthrow Ukraine's democratically elected Government. The Ukrainian Government have killed many thousands of people in the Donbass since 2014....
@@shaund4978 The lie was originated from Mike Pompeo. If you didnt know what kind of a person he is, i suggest reading it up. His most famous quote as a former head of CIA is ”we lie, we steal, we cheat.” The Us State Department told Pompeo “no, its not true” after he told the lie. But i guess the government later decided to weaponize this lie. However, no country’s leaders recognizes the lie. It’s the western media and politicians who keep spreading the lie, but ask macron, trudeau, and biden. Even the far right morrison from Australia refuses to make an official statement about it. I wonder why. Also, any hard evidence? Like satellite images and stuff? Only empty talks and some “interviews” from people whose lies were debunked by their own families living in Xinjiang. Well, i think it would have been much easier if Chinese government held their families hostage to shut these “speakers” or “victims” up right? Also, when UN was voting on this issue, other than the US and its allies in the west, most of the countries in the world did not vote against China, including ALL the muslim countries. I mean, ALL OF THEM. China is the “iron brother” with Pakistan, which is a muslim country. China always speaks up openly for Palestine and openly supports their wish of forming a UN recognized country. In fact it’s the West and India who discriminate on muslims and muslims in India even fear for their lives. But you would never hear about it from wester msm. Now do you see that lots of things in the lie just dont add up? Also, urghurs are only half of the muslim population in China, every okay sized city has mosques and muslim population. I suggest you go and see for yourself, and ask chinese muslims and Uyghurs directly. Don’t believe in western msm ( I thought it’s pretty obvious by now). Go see for yourself. I’m typing all these assuming you are not a bot. But if you are, or just a hater for no reason and dont care about the truth, kindly ignore.
As a local from Hong Kong, I totally disagree his point toward China. Yes, people should ( include him ) should study history, study what China is doing to Taiwan & HongKong. I understand that his point is from an anti American POV. Not completely incorrect, but at least, for the China/Taiwan part. I m pretty sure he is wrong ( in term of the local people will)
Michael, thanks for posting the full video, it's such a shame that CNN skipped the important parts but not surprising. Rather than reading, listening to Roger would help a lot, he's a brilliant man and tells it straight
What more is needed? Its obvious that Waters is a flaming hypocrite who got rich off and lives safely in a free society while praising hyper corrupt war criminals and mass murdering fascists who imprison, poison and assassinate those who dare criticize them. Everybody in free societies is nauseated by him. Thats why the only ones who praise him are the low paid Russian and Chinese trolls who live on their knees with mouths wide open for the tyrants who oppress their own people.
If you think quick three sentence explanations and critiques address the complex and numerous problems of the modern world, you are (like Mr. Waters) dreaming. Hippy wisdom won’t cut it in a world gone mad.
He is a musician. He is great and acknowledged. Nevertheless I write music too, and one feedback I got from a highly respected poet was that I on occasion was just listing things. OK, it is easier, not such a heavy creative process. My guess is that Rogers has fallen for it too. Even though he is great, he is still human, and I do not think he is that deeply into Russian culture, to be able to judge this. We are a peace-generation, and of course, some see everything through the lense of Western fault. In this situation I see that the West is actually holding back a lot. The Russians also claim that they could do a lot worse. Keeping sane as an artist, not just showing off opinions is nevertheless a challenge these times. What is happening is horrifying, but the solution is not just to hand Ukraine over to the wild bear.
I salute Michael for posting the full uncut interview. I would echo Roger that Michael needs to read more, and more than just western mainstream media. In today's global world, diversity means hearing from sources all over the world.
Michael is such a US apologist, reading from.the entirety of US MSM gives the illusion of different voices, but if you source who funds the US MSM media then you'll soon realize there is really only one master and a singular interest, if you want to "perspective" you have to look at independent sources as well as soruces out of country, otherwise you're being duped
@@gabriellee6898 hearing in argument, watching a program, reading what someone writes is not the same as relating to what the other Person is saying and being open to Fair pov.
28 minutes of the most intelligent teachings I ever endured. His mention of the charter of rights and freedom's and his focus on that specific rule of law has set my mind back on the sovereign path. If I were he, he'd be spreading that message all day long every day, because he has the audience, and if any of those people are really listening to the message of each song, instead of being there for any other reason, then he of all possible people would influence their futures and thus, change the course of history. Don't ever forget who you are, one of we the people. We're not persons!
Problem is when people of conflicting wishes do not step into the most crucial battle now: saving souls. This requires circumstancial alliances with opponents to restore the 1st amendment and equity in justice. After the left betrayed Assange, Musk is your last opportunity before an irreversible conclusion of the infamous mixture of 1984 and Brave New World. Open your eyes to the Twitter Files really. Mac Carthism is now produced by the anti Democrats in power and a leftist support through a Stockholm syndrom. I call them now the unten intellectuellat, negative IQ for profit. Profit is cash or social fear of not looking trendy. They do not see the obvious or think by themselves, they just replicate. The Patriot Act extended to a new fascist Stasi, with so many leftists, self claimed progressists, collaborating to their own prison, tracking who they think are "despicable" opponents instead of simply talk and listen with common decency. So a far away stranger is OK, but next door red or blue is The Enemy ? So if you are him who are you ? I am proud to remember every sound and second of Waters songs. I was a baby alone far away from the parents and knew the music by heart, extended them infinitely to survive to illness and loneliness. I could see and still remember detailed images and sounds of the universe depth and beauty. It touched me even deeper than those lads who created the music I feel now. Waters is close to truth but not enough. Thank God he exists though.
Brave man who try to differentiate between true and untrue. Love the music … We don’t need no thought control ☮️. Also thank you for publishing the interview
I agree with Roger- this show was worth what we paid to go… I was one of those people that may well have ‘f*cked off to the bar’ a few years ago, but I approached the show with an open mind and was blown away by Roger, his band, and the production! Well done Roger 🙌
Amen. The current situation is what one might expect when the western politicians are too corrupt for words, and have high hopes of never ending wars based on lies, with massive profits for a few.
@@edwardgr1698 i’m talking abt the 8 minute version, thought there would be a lot more content in this one that they left out. but most of the big points were in there
So Roger as of 10Aug is now pennyless as he gave all his money away, his net worth was $310 million 2021 now skint and does free shows not to make money(must catch a show one day) Roger is a CHAMPION SOCIALIST sorry CHAMPAYNE SOCIALIST who says one thing and does another, my definition HIPPOCRETIN CLASS 1.
@@Harry-mu5xl you mean after the coup in 2014.... not only that, he promised peace, not only that he acknowledged the 2 treaties, not only that .... get where i am going....so no i dont got a problem with people electing who ever they want, so long as its fair and leagle, lets face it, its a long way from that, if you do your unbiased research. So have a nice day, i mean that, this world has enough going on in already without putting fire into peoples belly.
Hearing Roger makes me understand him more and actually thinking I'm a lot like him. He's an amazing artist and so is the rest of Pink Floyd, much respect to him
Roger, thank you!!!! Thank you for educating your interviewer. He definitely has his own propaganda and prejudices without doing the proper work like you. Many more years to you brother!
@@Ck-zk3we This kind of reaction is the protection of self delusion. Your mind has been broken. In America we dont do diplomacy, we do brute force and bullying. I wish you luck with your mental problems and brain washing
Waters (11:03): “This war [Russia’s war in Ukraine] is basically about the action and reaction of NATO pushing right up to the Russian border, which they promised they wouldn’t do when Gorbachev negotiated the withdrawal of the USSR from the whole of Eastern Europe. They said ‘we will do that on one condition that you don’t come one inch closer to the Russian border than the eastern borders of Germany’, and you, if I may include you, as an American, agreed to that and said 'sure'.” “the withdrawal of the USSR from the whole of Eastern Europe” That is a lie. Not from the whole of Eastern Europe, but only from East Germany after its reunion with West Germany. About NATO “promising” not to expand itself to the Russian border. It is another lie. That promise was made to the USSR, not to Russia, during a meeting of US secretary of state James A. Baker and former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, in a discussion on the status of a reunited Germany. It was agreed that NATO would not extend past the territory of East Germany, a promise repeated by NATO’s secretary general in a speech on May 17 that same year in Brussels. The agreement stipulating that was inked when the USSR still existed and the countries of Eastern Europe were still part of the Soviet structures. But after the Soviet Union officially dissolved, the agreement terminated and everything was rearranged completely. Governed by Soviet Moscow before, all the ex-Soviet republics as well as the countries of Eastern Europe finally became officially sovereign and free. Most Ukrainians believed there was no reason for Ukraine to join NATO or some other defence alliance until the Russian aggression against Ukraine became obvious and started escalating itself in 2014. Before 2014, Russia’s anti-Ukrainian policy was much milder, based considerably on lobbying. But after Yanukovych (Ukraine’s then-current president who was a Russia’s proxy) fell, Moscow went increasingly brutal about Ukraine. Russia has always been breaking the laws, with the Budapest Memorandum being one of those that Russia broke. “Go and read about” the Budapest Memorandum. Meanwhile, Ukraine, as a sovereign state, has its own right to choose its own way of development, choose its partners and etc., while it is not for Moscow to decide. What about Sweden and Finland to join NATO? Surprisingly, this turns out no problem for Russia despite having a much longer border with NATO in the end and despite the Baltic Sea eventually turning into NATO’s inland sea. Getting NATO at the border with Finland, Russia will never ever invade this country just because of NATO to be there.
Well, If situatuon turned out that Russia started to build military bases and trainings around the US border, would you accuse Russia? Of course you will. If US do so, there are billion excuses. You become silent when you need to, and start fucking screaming when other country do the same thing as you. The only difference is that you did so two decades ago, and Russia do it now. History is key to all your questions.
@@kellyfrancis1873 He taught me not to be a flaming hypocrite who got rich off and lives safely in a free society while praising hyper corrupt war criminals and mass murdering fascists who imprison, poison and assassinate those who dare criticize them. What did daddy dearest teach YOU, Vladimir?
Pink Floyd was an iconic rock band in the USSR - and still remains an iconic group in Russia. I think I won't be mistaken if I say PF music significantly influenced the mindset of several generations of Russians, even though the language barrier existed.... The freedom and justice spirit of thier music could be understood without lyrics. I am from Russia and I consider Roger Waters, being an outstanding musician, to be also the greatest warrior for peace and justice in the World. I think only John Lennon could could be ranked same scale. Thank you Roger❤
Bravo Roger standing up to propaganda about covid terrorism and the profits the did Big Tech , Pfizer and Big Pharma corporations . It is amazing and insane how many people still watching tv , radio and maistream !!! And believing of gloriuos Usa democracy and its Israel goverment friend !
As a musician myself, i have to tell you that this is sadly not often the case. In fact concious people who cut through the propaganda B.S. and think for themselves, are rare among musicians as much as among other groups or professions. Even extremely talented and sensitive artists like Sting or Stevie Wonder, for example, are totally clueless on the Russian Ukraine situation.
Great interview. It show how civil it can be when differences of view is presented in a discussion. I hope the CNN cut shows the full version. The problem nowadays is people are living in different realities becoz of what they are shown on social medias and often biased journalism (Yes, I meant CNN, Fox News, etc). As a Chinese Canadian living in Asia, I have to agree with Roger. Americans need to read and watch more news from our side of the world. Perhaps listen to people who are living in Asia to get a different perspective. And NO, we don’t need US to be the liberator. It’s just a nice way to justify American Exceptionalism.
Most people with Ukrainian flags on their profiles have never heard of the coup that removed Viktor Yanukovych ,the war in the Donbass since 2014,the Minsk agreement and the agreement between NATO and USSR not to expand eastwards towards Russia.
To characterise this kind of discussion as a sincere moral dialectic is mistake. Smerconish, like every one of his corporate media peers, is not exercising a carefully considered and genuinely held personal viewpoint, rather he's obfuscating, misleading and propagandising, because that's what he's paid for. Still I suppose it is a positive thing that, in this age of dissident censorship, CNN is platforming voices like Waters at all (even if they did pull the tired old microphone adjustment trick that's so often used when a speaker gets into their flow.) Though a clear-eyed cynic might come away from this interview wondering if the "powers that be" aren't trying to reverse the public opinion they've worked so hard to cultivate in recent months as they look to construct an off-ramp from the US's disastrous and untenable Ukranian misadventure.
@@fredfredrickson5436 “microphone adjustment trick”? Jesus are all you tankies this paranoid? 😂 Either way you’re an apologist for a right-wing autocrat who invaded a sovereign neighbouring state. A US-backed coup in 2014 and sectarian violence in eastern Ukraine do not justify such an escalation. Irredentism & revanchism are ethno-nationalist doctrines that no one on the left should support. Russia unilaterally deciding to get involved militarily for so-called benevolent reasons is just as heinous and likely to backfire as US interventions have been in the rest of the world. Consistent application of principles is important if you want to be taken seriously!
Smart man - both men really - but I don't like to think that Roger's default position on world affairs is what Smerconish (almost) says it is, which is that "the West" is always at fault, always the aggressor, always wrong. Never a liberator, always nefarious. It's true there is a mountain of evidence that America has inflicted great suffering around the world, and used a "Might Makes Right" approach all too often to get what it wants. But there's also evidence that America has done enormous good in the world as well.
and now look at the million Iraqis that did NOT get killed in the war. Biased study and far from all others. More importantly more than 80% of those deaths weren't by US forces.
He just gave China a pass... The most prolific violaters of human rights in the entire history of mankind. They killed 80 million of their own people and he denied it. He's a disgusting pig.
If you love Roger Waters like I do, no matter what your political affiliation is, you MUST watch this whole interview! What my take from it is “the truth shall set you FREE”! Wishing you all the best on your tour Roger, and wishing all of humanity peace of mind, happiness, good health and prosperity to ALL and their families. We must end the suffering! 😔😔 🙏🌏☮️❤️
Waters is like John Lennon. He is both a genius of music and a brave lonely fighter against the western propaganda machine. Such people are truly unique. Thank you Roger
I remember listening to The Final Cut in 1983. It was banned in USSR because of "..Brezhnev took Afghanistan.." piece. Was still widely listen and known. Roger did not changed a bit. Full respect.
About "Brezhnev took Afghanistan", it helps to read (2009) The Great Gamble, by Gregory Feifer. I have only read the introductory part, but this is a book that elucidates the breadth of circumstances that led to the Soviet entry, and the contributions of destabilization that were created in the sequence. Many of the current problems stem absolutly from destabilization and destabilizers, than from the actors - Soviets and Afhgans.
Citizens of USSR were allowed to travel freely to Yugoslavia way before the rest of Europe. Many were buying western records in shops and taking them back to USSR. I remember wanting to buy new double LP live Pink Floyd album one day and a buss load of Russians came to largest records shop in Belgrade just before I went in and bought everything that was worth having, including Pink Floyd 🤣😂🤣 Привет из Белграда братья, ми Серби с вами всегда!
@@djape1977 One of my classmates and good friend has Yugoslavian father. Not sure what nationality, was not thinking about it in those good old times.. He indeed supplied us with records and was super popular for this reason. Among girls too. Lucky ba..d :)
For me The Final Cut is possibly my favourite Floyd Album, though over the many Years i have adored the music of Floyd it has slipped from top spot on occasion. Time is a strange thing :)
As a huge Pink Floyd fan it warms my heart that one of my favorite musicians also seems to be one of the few people that have stayed sane during this massive neofascist propaganda offensive the US and EU are doing currently.
You're deluded. This war was the last thing the US and EU wanted. Putin started it and now NATO has to end it. The planet can't have someone like Putin given license to invade other countries without recriminations.
The only thing Roger Waters wants to do is wave the white flag. “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse... A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -- John Stuart Mill
Waters gets that Biden needs to encourage Zelensky into negotiating peace talks with Russia and end this unwinnable war. And Roger Waters is correct in mentioning the Minsk agreements, which western Ukraine reneged on and started this war with ethnic Russians in the Donbas in 2014.
You must be either an american or just delusional to believe that any kind of peace treaties will stop putin from occupying all of Ukraine. But you probably don't care about it anyway, why should you
They (Biden, Zelenskyy) are both two sides of the same coin. They are drip feeding US taxpayers funds towards the most corrupt country on planet earth: Ukraine. All under the fake guise of a Russia invasion. Both are puppet leaders, corrupt to the core perpetuating their very own criminality whilst ushering in a manufactured recession to the American people.
Yes but majority of people don’t care about it or they close their eyes on it. Because Russophobia is real. They try to ban Russian food, Russian books, everything that had the word Russia or has to do with Russia. I didn’t see no American books or music or movies being banned when they attacked other countries and caused chaos.
Go Roger, give him some facts and he falls apart and wants to joke. Imagine if people like Roger were in power the world would be in a better place. Ha ha, "Who's Hilary, didn't he climb Everest?"
He would make a fantastic president, imagine the establishment establishing sucj a popular and principled figure, it would be RIP for the legacy media hybrid establishment
@@rmur206 What the fuck for? I'm 47 years old and have a degree in electronics and electrical engineering. Why the hell would I want to study something as asinine as linguistics?
@@stralestrale47 Useless comment. Either respond with the substance, or keep it to yourself. Russia HAS signed treaties and stated NATO is not a threat to Russia. This is well document and you can find troves of records on that with a low effort search. Take your own medicine...educate yourself.
@0Jebus0 you discuss it from your perspective and I am a Romanian, so very much anti-Russian military, pro-NATO and all that. BUT, to be fair, if you look at the map, there is no coincidence about Georgia and Ukraine entering into talks with the West to join the NATO alliance. It is a strategy of the US to contain Russia, who is an autocracy/dictatorship, always was and has 50% of worlds nuclear weapons. Taiwan is also a similar case, where following the civil war in the 40's Chiang Kai-Shek retreated to that island with what was left of his army. That was an opportunity for US to have a ally right up China's (whatever body part you prefer). So you can see a strategy pattern here. When the Russians moved into Cuba, we all know what happened, it wasn't Mexico, was Cuba but was close enough (watch the map) and they had to get out with their missiles, otherwise threat of nuclear war was rampant. SO IT DOES MATTER THE GEOGRAPHICAL PROXIMITY. Russia being contained, as far as I am concerned, is a good thing, you cannot rely that a Russian dictator (in this case Putin) will not go bonkers with absolute power wanting to make history and nuke his enemies while in his 3 km underground 10 year survival bunker. This containment strategy makes it a lose-lose scenario for sure, with no certainty of being able to anihilate your opponent before he does. But Roger Waters looks from a humanitarian standpoint, thinking we can all be reasoned with and I believe this is where his mistake is. NOT ALL LEADERS CAN BE REASONED WITH. Some do go mad with having absolute power. Did that shade some light into your rethorical question?
Michael, great show but like so many American's you do have a blind spot for the chaos the US causes in the world. Roger gave you sound advice to expand your reading and to open your eyes wider.
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He can't he part of the western propaganda machine.
But, but.....'Merica!
He doesnt wanna read. Hes already usa biased.
Roger is wrong about Russia. The United States sided with the communists against Germany. He’s peddling propaganda.
Watched this many times, tears in my eyes. As an ethnic Chinese, with family living in both mainland and Taiwan, enough of lies the MSM has spread, enough of hatred it had caused. Unbelievable arrogance and ignorance. Thanks Roger for seeing the world with your own eyes and being brave enough to tell the truth 💖
16 years? OK. I will believe you are real. If I take you at face value, I am lead to believe, that you believe Taiwan is part of China and is not an independent nation. If this is correct, what are your thoughts on the inevitable war that China will unleash to reclaim its "wayward province "?
You’re lying
Praying for peaceful reunification let the families and friends come together these people are one ❤️
@@aggravatedassociate8237 not even Taiwan itself claims to be an independent nation. Learn some history. They themselves will tell you that they are part of China. After all, Taiwan = ROC (Republic of China). The question between the PRC and the ROC is not rather its independent or not, it's about who is the legitimate government of China. The US, UN and 180+ countries recognize Beijing as the legitimate government of China and that Taiwan is part of China.
@ Aggravated Associate I was born in Taiwan. Taiwan is part of China is a fact not just a belief. The sad history of the civil war separated two sides of the strait. We hope both side can reunite peacefully. However, if there is anyone on Taiwan island trying to separate it from China, there will be inevitable to resume the temporarily stopped civil war.
"Every war when it starts, all you need to do is look at the history. " golden words ✨️
The truth is, every war when it starts nowadays, all you need to do is to find out if America is behind the scene!!
And then violates his point.
There's an old Buddhist piece of wisdom..."if you want to understand the present situation, then look at past events. If you want to consider future outcomes, consider the present actions."
Look at the history? In what respect?? Like when a maniac that wants to kill all the Jews and take over all of Europe invaded sovereign countries then bastions of freedom like the UK and America and France, decide to fight against that evil. Yeah look at the history indeed aditya!!
And Roger got all the history wrong. ;)
Благодарим вас Роджер за вашу позицию! Вы великий человек! Мне 29 лет и я слушаю вашу музыку,потому что мои родители слушали Pink Floyd! 🇬🇧 🇷🇺
Finally someone has the balls to speak the truth!
Yeees! 👏👏
Finally? There are MANY out there speaking the truth.
Pouring derision, you mean?
So TRUE ! HE IS our HERO in the WESTERN WORLD!
Well... He's been doing that for the last 60 years, you know?
Very very few would dare to speak the truth, but this man has always been on the side of the truth.
And nowadays, when LIES are all we get from Media, telling the truth is so revolutionary...
I wish many others had the courage to stand up to Goebels' countless BIG LIARS
We 💜 U Roger !! BRAVO !!
I think it is worse than that. Corporate media rarely gives anti-war, anti-imperialism, anti-capitalist voices any room on corporate media. So we are all left with the impression that the topics and framing that corporate media makes room for are the only views that are correct. These media outlets have their own ideology and bias (and other corporate sponsors that are paying their bills). It is reflected in the type of discourse they allow on air. They used to allow a lot more people like Roger Waters speak their minds to their audiences. They are too afraid of losing advertisers nowadays.
hope more Heroes come forward
How do you know if he tells lies or truth. I hear full of BS… he s paid to air his ‘opinion’ and it’s really up to you to believe it but make sure to use your independent thinking, just sayin
Goebels? Joseph Goebbels?
ROTFLOL! HILARIOUS! Says the Putin troll to the CCP troll. ROGER WATERS IS A FASCIST. Putin and Xi are guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Russia and China are grossly inhumane fascist states and all fascist dictators regimes MUST DIE.
Roger is so intelligent and well spoken, glad he sees beyond western propaganda bs.
There’s seeing beyond western prop and then supporting China over Taiwan. He’s gone batshit insane.
Sure he is well spoken and articulates his thoughts with a certain elegance but that doesn't mask the delusion for me
@@nickpalmer54 there is only one delusion - is that WEST is honest and don't ruin other countries by military force, especially USA forces. People killed, robbed in Iraq, Lybia, Afganistan, did you care? Does it brought them better life? No, their were brutally robbed and killed and abandoned in poor land by USA. Because of that actions, we have terrorists attacks in the Western countries, to make you wake up and understand that the lost their families, homes and now YOU(ordinary guy) will pay price for it. What else do you need to get it?
He seems very adept at propagating Chinese and Russian propaganda BS though. He's quite an asset to those two regimes.
He s paid to air his ‘opinion’, it’s just another propaganda, timing is right!!
Just saw him last night in Glendale, AZ. Amazing show. No artist puts as much heart into their show as he does. It is sad that people can "hear" Pink Floyd songs, but never actually "listen" to them. Absolutely my favorite band of all time. Thank you, Roger Waters.
I was there in glendale too, great show that moved me but also very interesting to learn more about a perspective that I hadn't been exposed to before.
you're absolutely right
Pink Floyd, if any, IS THE band to bring humanity together, *cough cough* the wall
Can I ask did he have Putin up there as one of his war criminals??
@@marky1974 My post is seven months old. Putin and pretty most of our leaders are all war criminals. The fact that we wouldn't even negotiate a peace deal with Russia makes us just as culpable. Lord knows we would have don't the same thing if China was going to make a military deal with Mexico. But we have to keep our own war machine crawling. What a better way to test our newest weapons than to use them in someone else's war.
I dont watch CNN anymore or any of those mainsteam liars but Ronger Waters clip is doing several rounds on many Channels. I could not resist looking for the full version. Kudos to the CNN guy posting the whole version even though Roger kept on giving him knockouts. Thank God for people like Roger; the world might...just might escape total destruction.
It's funny you think Roger got one over Michael. Michael is way smarter and more knowledgeable the Roger could ever dream of on these issues. He's just a blowhard with a platform
His takes are fucking terrible, pure Putin/Xi propaganda, when did he become lobotomised? Must have been in the past couple of years I'm guessing he spends his time watching Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand whilst watching TV News that advertises itself as "anti-Mainstream" yet seems to do nothing but promote Russian/Chinese interests whilst telling you how terrible America is, he probably sits in an online echochamber of some sort as well.
Same here, I don't watch CNN anymore. Only watched this full interview with Roger Waters. Very few are willing to speak up and speak their mind. Kudos to Roger Waters for doing that.
Wait, what?!
He's defending the Chinese on Taiwan...? Isn't it clear that the Taiwanese don't want anything to do with Communist China? What about the will of the Taiwanese people... he's Ok to give that choice to people of Donbas but the Taiwanese...oh no, that would offend the Chinese 😱
And he talks of the Paris Declaration and in the next 10 minutes he's talking about China not being a Human Rights violater? Has he not heard of Tibet and Xinjiang? Looks like he's still stuck in his 1940s romantic obsession with communism... either that or, the Alzheimer's onset is pretty rapid...
Totally agree!
Respect to Smerconish for publishing some truth. Thank you Roger Waters for telling it.
Honestly I want to commend Smercornish for this, but in a way the damage has been done, Europe is suffering, there is no more trust between the public and elites, I dont think its even worth teenagers planning to go to university becuase education is compromised and had lost its value or meaning it just an elite factory.
I'm sure Roger Walters is now cancelled.
IMAGINE THIS: YOU DO AN INTERVIEW TO ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS MUSICIANS TODAY, HE DISARTICULATE YOUR RUBBISH POLITICS NARRATIVE BECAUSE YOU ARE A RIGHT-WING JOURNALIST WHO TURNS RED WHEN WATERS TELL YOU TO READ MORE, AND THEN YOU DECIDE NOT TO PUBLISH THE INTERVIEW OR WORST, YOU CENSOR SOME PARTS OF IT. WELL... HE HAD TO PUBLISH IT, HE HAD NO CHOICE, HE IS AN EMPLOYEE, EVEN THOUGH WATERS DESTROYS HIM.
@@petru4335 right wing? You think that dude is an Anarcho capitalist? You think someone who works for a big corporation believes in free markets? Lol, you also need to read a bit. Roger is only half honest and that puppet of an interviewer is a robot.
you need to read more
Michael blushed when Roger said the Chinese didn’t invade Iraq in 2003 killing a million people. Good job Roger.
Your maths is off because you are failing to account for all of the variables except one.
And masterfully changed the subject!
The US didn't invade Tibet in 1959
dude, you deserve to read more as he suggested
@@singo1987916 - yeah! i think Mr. Waters needs to read more!
Im American and agree with Roger 💯
Intelligent man. The US government never keep their words: Iran nuclear deal, the Minsk agreement, the Shanghai Communique Agreement, the Paris Accord, etc.
That's Bull crap
@@spiderreed350 One is either trustworthy or not trustworthy. America is not trust worthy. JCPOA is a prime example.
@@dirkdiggler3009 what countries are
@@spiderreed350 none
@@Mikeunism1 Greenland. Their _can't_ be much deception going on in Greenland :p
Waters is something as rare as a great musician with a brain who is actually informed about the world and is not afraid to express his views! Kudos!
Yea ok. Just because you like his music does not make him smart
@@shaund4978 Right, he's smart because he's able to critically analyze information put in front of him and come to a logical conclusion
@@shaund4978 you are right, there is also plenty of music I like when I suspect the musicians not to be very smart, but still enjoy their music
@@TheJollyLlama875 and his conclusions are very wrong. Rodger should open his eyes on agressive Vladimir Putin's policy.
@@shaund4978 Lmao! So true.
18:40, fantastic story about Rogers’s mum & the advice she gave him aged 13.
“You’re going to struggle with things all through your life. My advice is read everything you can. Then, all the heavy lifting is done. They next bit’s easy, Roger. Do the right thing”.
He's been reading a bit too much chinese propaganda unfortunately. He might be to far gone
The show is worth every penny. One of the very best shows I've ever seen. Roger Waters, thank you!
Really ??? We had “the dark side of the moon” now we have “the dark side of Roger Waters”.
Thank you for that I will buy a ticket on Monday selling at the 02 London for June 2023.
Roger Waters has always been a champion for the people.
Michael's mistake was to say China is the top of everyone's agenda. Who'se agenda? Of course the west and particularly America when there are still thousands of Native Americans that are treated unfairly from ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY PLUS YEARS AGO. I live in China and see first hand how the vast majority have benefitted, how 600+m have been raised from abject poverty while in America you have a rising number of people dependant on food banks and food stamps - who is going in the right direction?
Unless you are Ukrainian it seems
The people in the Kremlin and in the CCP? Yeah, I'm sure Vlad and Xi would agree with your comment! 👍
@@meself349 do you think that if tomorrow those two people drop dead the world would change? If not, then wtf are you talking about
Lol
Thank you Roger Waters !!!You are a great human being!!At least i am glad that there is still great musicians from Britain that actually read the history and knows what they talk about.!!!Your speech is so important !!
Roger is a brave guy, intellegent and openly talking about facts against massive propaganda machine.
Wait so the Great Leap Forward wasn’t deadly?
HE IS A FASCIST WHO LOVES FASCIST STATES THAT TRY AND TURN HUMAN BEINGS INTO "ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL".
"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:38-39`
Roger can be annoying when hearing Pink Floyd stories about him, but his politics are spot on. Love the guys politics.
The world would be a much better place if there is more people like Roger Waters who is open minded enough to think the Russians and the Chinese aren't sent by the devil.
I'm finnish and I don't hate the Russian people, I hate their government.. same with the Chinese..
Yes the people of Russia and China are hostage to their leaders as much as US citizens are. There are lots of people who unfortunately become bots of these leaders and repeat the propaganda, making the corrupt leaders job easier, but I hold out hope we may start to break through this more.
We have no particular issue with the Chinese or Russian people, just their rulers.
@@jyutzler but 1. you only know them thru, mainly, western media which is biased and propaganda driven. 2. what's the job of these rulers/governments, is it to look after the interest of it's own people and country, or to please the West? because at least 70-80% of Chinese love their own government.
@@kafkakafka516 Wait, you're going to lecture me about western media when Chinese and Russian media is literally controlled by their governments? Come on. I'm not going to argue with Roger when he calls out the West's problems but I completely agree with Smerconish when he says Roger is giving Russia and China a pass. And let's face it, people aren't exactly looking to move to those places.
I saw him in Cincinnati last month after waiting 2 years from fucking covid.
It was stellar.
Apocalyptic , dark , brutal , and very sobering.
I fought off tears for the first 3 or 4 songs because it was such a powerful performance.
I was there as well, and i was torn!!!!
Because it was such a powerful performance or because you stubbed your vagina?
Was Putin on his list of war criminals??
The only thing I knew about Pink Floyd was that it was a band from the 60s. Now I know differently. What a brilliant man this Roger Waters is. His perspective and analysis of the world as it stands today is nothing if not phenomenal.
So brilliance to you is genocide denial and shilling for terrorist regimes?
I have been listening to Pink Floyd since i was a youth, i still listen to this day, quite often actually.
If that's all you know, I can tell you that he was a total narcissistic prick towards the other band members.
It was an anti establishment punk band and they nailed it.
He is a mommas boy.
Didn’t have a dad to teach him to stand up to bully’s
Roger always speaks the truth. Very intelligent and well informed. We live in a society of ppl wanting to be “politically correct” when in fact they are far from being anything but correct. Roger treats ppl equally. No one is better than! His show was fabulous in Philly! Keep on doing what you’re doing.
Finally someone tells the truth without fear! Roger is the best!
I cant believe people think this way. Russia is not The country you want to side with. I support whatever is in My own countrys best interest, And at The moment it sure as Hell is to NOT give in to russia. Is America a good side? Definately not, but Americans are free to Voice their opinions at least. That makes USA The better of The two
@@anttitheinternetguy3213 please listen Roger’s advice again. And go to read. Then compare (if you wish…)
@@КонстантинХомяков-э3ф to Be fair to you i only saw Part of The interview but what i saw i disagreed completely. I cant imagine what kind of a man supports russian government on these Times, its like saying nazis were right when conquering sudetenlands.
@@anttitheinternetguy3213 I’m russian bro 😎 and I recommend you to find full version of interview, and of course listen carefully to Roger’s advice- every time try to get full version of every information and knowledge 🤷♂️ it helps you to see the difference and truth (🤥 ). I grew up with Roger’s poetry, listen to him closely - he’s real man of peace ✌🏼 talent and strong. And he is a patriot of course. It’s normal to love your home and family. I respect him for that too. Like mr. Oliver Stone for example. I’m so brought up to respect honesty, wisdom, age, experience, talent and firstly humanity. And Roger just advised you to listen, explore, read more than simple slogan 🤷♂️ isn’t it normal for wise people? Open your eyes and hearts. That’s it.
I hope that maybe a part of Americans hears him.
Sorry for my English friend but I think it’s much better than your Russian 😉
All the best ✋🏾
A great credit to Roger Waters for his civil courage and willingness to tell the truth. The world needs just such people.
Love him but sounds like he fell for the government's Covid stats. That disappoints me.
Roger Waters simply revealed himself to be a flaming hypocrite who got rich off and lives safely in a free society while praising hyper corrupt war criminals and mass murdering fascists who imprison, poison and assassinate those who dare criticize them. Everybody in free societies is nauseated by him. Thats why the only ones who praise him are the low paid Russian and Chinese trolls who live on their knees with mouths wide open for the tyrants who oppress their own people.
He was telling his own opinions, not the “truth”.
@@Harry-mu5xl You have to get out of the corporate media to find the truth. Something you haven't done yet.
@@harryseldon6712 "Get out of the corporate media"? Then where would you gather latest news and information, social media? Good luck to you.
Echoes is my favorite PF song, and to hear him quote it as his main message sent chills down my spine.
same! and actually he just spoke my favourite line of that song to describe his only ever message to the world..! wow
@@manuelguerraphotography7168 that is my favorite line as well and hit me so hard
Same here! Second verse for me... Their MOTHER, and our children.
PINK
FLOYD.
LONDON
But what would Echoes have been without Rick Wright …. Underestimated .
Geez, when American talking about human rights and spreading ''democracy" in every corner of the world, it makes my blood boil. Who gave you the right, America? Mind your own business. Thank you, Roger Waters for speaking the truth.
ROTFLOL! Yes, civil rights are "evil" and mass murdering, hyper corrupt war criminals like Putin and Xi are "good"! LOL!!! What raised you? A forrest animal?
Amen
For each to mind his own business, I fully agree, Putin should be well inspired by those wise words more than anyone else in those complicated times.
It would be great if America did spread democracy and human rights to the world. Instead, the US is only interested in dominating world markets.
@@pierrevanhalteren5733 killing Russian speaking ppl is his duty to stop! Don't fuck with Slav
Never have to fear questions or accusations if you know the truth. Roger is a true hero and everything he says is soooo true. He isn't giving Russians the pass, he's talking facts.
Thank you Roger, one of the few that can be counted on. From start to finish.
One of the few. like the song in The FInal Cut
Whilst I agree with much of Roger's politican reasoning and the gist of his argument, he is slightly naive on human rights and China. And I'd put to him the term 'passive aggression' which is something China has perfected. He said China has never invaded any country or taken part in any major conflicts: Tibet? Vietnam? Korea? China took over Tibet, an entire nation. Tibet didn't resist and not a single bullet was fired, but they took over a country by threat of force and began replacing its culture none the less. China was instrumental in the Korean war and has backed North Korea (one of the most evil regimes on earth that has zero human rights) to this day. Vietnam, China backed the Communists and fought a proxy war against the US along with USSR. China has an appalling human rights record in its own country. Millions died during the time of Chairman Mao. More recently, China has attacked its own Muslim community and puts thousands and thousands in prison camps or re-education camps to de-Islamify them. China promised to respect the independence and democracy of Hong Kong during the 1998-1999 hand-over from Britain, but has slowly erroded the rights of Hong Kong Chinese and even attacks or imprisons them when they protest so they now hold up blank sheets of paper, same as people do in mainland China. Taiwan is a democracy that wishes to be self-governed independent of China, but China is saying is must be re-unified with China by choice or by force. A basic fundamental human right is the right to self-determination of a people. The right to choose and elect a government. China doesn't hold to that principle. It's one of the countries that hasn't signed the Human Rights Charter.
But all that said, even my own country the UK is far from perfect on human rights, despite being a founding signature to the UNHR Charter. People are imprisoned here for political incorrectness, wrong thinking or expression. Freedom of speech is restricted. Freedom of political association is restricted. Freedom of assembly and the right to protest is restricted. Just to different levels, but not unlike China in many ways if you go in a direction the government doesn't like.
Roger is correct about the Russian Ukraine situation. Most people have absolutely no idea how, why or when this conflict started and the long diplomatic and legal struggle Russia went through before it got to the stage of Putin using full Russian military intervention on Ukraine. And I don't even think he even expected it to be a war. He expected no resistance and the government to fall quite quickly just by a show of overwhelming Russian force. His intelligence and calculations were flawed and things quickly spiralled out of control. Suddenly the Western world has turned on Russia and isolated it economically. Russia is now in a proxy-war with a US/Western NATO alliance basically, with Ukraine being used to fight a war on Russia for them. Ukraine is the battle-ground for a power struggle between the West and Russia, just as it was 170 years ago in the Crimean War.
The path towards Russia deciding to take military action on Ukraine against a government it considered hostile to Russian people and Russia itself started right back in 2008 as Roger said. With limited intervention in Dombas using militias to back Russian separatists who were being supressed and killed. Then it escalated from there.
The Minsk Agreements of 2014 and 2015 were a final diplomatic international attempt to resolve these issues between Ukraine and Russia, and the West brokered that and co-signed. In those agreements, Ukraine conceded that Crimea was part of the Russian Federation, respected the referendum of the majority ethnic Russian population to be identified as Russian nationals, and it addressed the Russian separatist problems in the three Dombas regions, that were being socially, politically marginalised and attacked by the Ukranian government. Both sides, Russia and Ukraine have breached the Minsk Agreements, but Ukraine more so in stating Crimea is part of Ukraine and they intend to take it by force, when they conceded it as Russian Federation territory in an international agreement and agreed to respect the referendum outcome. Crimea has been part of Russia for 199 years, Ukraine has absolutely no legal basis to claim Crimea is part of Ukraine. To Russia, that's a declaration of war on Russia itself.
So why are people perplexed that Russia has such an anti-Western position and decided it had no option left but to take military action against Ukraine, a government that violated two international agreements, had become hostile towards ethnic Russian people and the Russian State itself? Russian tried to settle its issues with Ukraine by every diplomatic and legal way possible, and the West was part of that process, but is now arming Ukraine instead of saying, hold on, we had an agreement here, what went wrong, let's sit down and work this out...people talk about finding a peaceful resolution, there is one the Minsk Agreement II. If both sides just kept to their word and the international community kept to its word, the war could end. What Russia is asking for is not unreasonable.Yes it's gone too far and the Special Military Operation has gone completely out of control and nobody can excuse what Putin and Russia is doing, but they feel betrayed, ignored and supressed by the West who only follows the rule of law, and democracy when it suits their own interests...there's a very hypocritical double-standard going on by the West when it comes to Western democracy and interests, and Russia's.
When it's Russia's interests, nobody cares. There is also still a lot of corruption in Ukraine. Even the current President has dubious involvment with a Russian company, and Ukranian Oligarch billionaires (yes they exist, but no news reports on that!) with tens of millions of dollars held by him and others close to him, using off-shore companies in tax-havens that hold multi-million pound properties in the UK and Europe. That may shock some people, but it's true. Google it.
Everything isn't black and white, good guy, bad guy as the media presents it. They like to dumb-down things for the masses. Like Roger said, it's cause and effect. There's always a reason behind the effects, a history and a story. We're only seeing the effects and one side of the story. Why is the West keeping the war going in Ukraine and sending more and more arms? Why aren't they trying to make every effort to reach a diplomatic resolution with Russia? Why didn't this process start when the tanks were lined up before a single shot was fired? Why were France's efforts dismissed?
We hear 'Russia must be defeated, its military degraded' over and over. How do you think Russian's feel hearing that? Are they likely to trust or like the West? Like Roger said, how would the US feel, if China started building up a global military coalition around the world and put nukes and military bases with 100,000 troops on the Mexico border and around the world by US interests? Look what happened when the USSR put nuclear missiles on Cuba, we very nearly had a nuclear WWIII! And yet Russia is expected to tolerate Ukraine becoming a NATO possibly nuclear armed state with an antagonistic government on its border, and Finland with a 1,000km border being another US base and NATO country? And people are alarmed when Russia re-assets its nuclear deterrent position. It's called nuclear threats and blackmail. Yet there are nuclear bases all over Europe with missiles pointed at Russia and nuclear armed submarines around Russia. The US conducted several nuclear tests in the Indian ocean, nobody said a thing. Russia tests a nuclear missile everyone is critical.
If we want peace, we need to de-escalate tensions, not escalate them. Nearly everything the US and NATO does seems to esalate and create tensions. Everyone is an enemy or threat if they have a different style of government, but sadly the world isn't perfect and neither is the US itself.
Is arming Taiwan helping ease tensions with China? Or sending spy planes over China and doing training exrcises in the South China Sea and putting the US navy fleets there helping China-US relations? Constant negative news about China and absurd stories about them being the number one threat, intent on taking over the world and their military exceeding the US in a few years...China is preparing to invade Taiwan real soon, when China says the opposite..it has no intention or desire to invade Taiwan, it seeks peaceful re-unification but must show its strength, capability and willingness to defend itself also, just as the US does, only right on China's doorstep. China's military won't achieve even parity with the US military until 2050 at the current levels even if the US military doesn't expand further, according to China. China doesn't want to be a military super-power to rival the US and has no global ambitions to challenge NATO. It just wants to be able to defend itself against a possible US/Western attack and protect its regional interests and space. That's China's official stated position, but that's not what's reported.
The world isn't perfect and sadly not all countries respect human rights or the rule of international law fully. However using aggression to solve that won't make it better or the world safer. That's a lesson we've learned over and over. Look at the state of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and many other countries now after decades of US-led regime changes. How many major regime changes has Russia been involved in by comparison post-USSR, or China? Who is the main global aggressor from the Russian, Chinese, India and North Korea prospective? Perhaps that's why they feel threatened, maybe they'll be next to be invaded!
"if you want to understand the present situation, then look at past events. If you want to consider future outcomes, consider the present actions." - Buddhist wisdom.
Crikey! I read ALL of that & agreed with almost all of it (as well as learning a couple of things). Global politics, socio-economics, fiscal & foreign policy, etc. ISN’T exactly something that is easily understood, let alone convivially debated, lol. ‘Our Rog’ has a platform & uses it to the best of his ability with, I believe, the best of intentions. One can’t say fairer than that. He’s not a bad fella, eh! Plus he’s made some fucking cracking albums.
Thank you Roger for speaking up for China. At the end of this interview, Roger's sincere speech on Taiwan and China's human rights has been swiped on the Chinese Internet in the past two days.
Yes! I came here after watching it on wechat channel!
Have you ever actually listened to Pink Floyd??? It’s torture -- I recommend you play it to Uighur prisoners
@@goatfokerkadyrov7528 you believe in what you believe in. The lie was originated from mike pompeo. If you didnt know what kind of a person he is, i suggest reading it up. His most famous quote as a former head of CIA is ”we lie, we steal, we cheat.”
And no country’s leaders recognizes the lie. It’s the western media and politicians who keep spreading the lie, but ask macron, trudeau, and biden. Even the far right morrison from Australia refuses to make an official statement about it. I wonder why. Also, any hard evidence? Like satellite images and stuff? Only empty talks and some “interviews” from people whose lies were debunked by their own families living in Xinjiang. Well, i think it would have been much easier if Chinese government held their families hostage to shut these “speakers” or “victims” up right? Do you see that lots of logic here just dont add up? Also, urghurs are only half of the muslim population in China, every okay sized city has mosques and muslim population. I suggest you go and see for yourself, and ask the Uyghurs directly.
I’m typing all these assuming you are not a bot. But if you are, kindly ignore.
@@goatfokerkadyrov7528 if Pink Floyd is torture for criminals, I'm gonna go rob a bank right now
@@goatfokerkadyrov7528 try
"Wish you were here"
All I can say to Mr. Roger Waters for speaking the truth is thank you sir. 🙏👏👏
A joy to hear the truth from a great
Musician. Thank you Roger forl
listening to your mum !
😂😂😂😂
A multi-millionaire, who is touring non-stop with 40+ year old material for big money, lecturing us about how everybody else are supposedly just doing things for profit?
Hilarious - and sad.
Oh, and China and Russia, those beacons of democracy, are 100 trustworthy?
Roger, you are a joke - and it's high time to pack it in.
He talks nonsense! Both on the economic AND the historic front.
"WW2 wasn't Germany's fault, but the West's. Germany was threatened and only did the sensible thing", Roger Waters.
I respect this interview a lot more after watching the full uncut version. While I don't personally fancy the interviewer's ways, this uncut version is a lot more real and human than the edited down, butchered version on CNN.
Thanks, will check it out because this one is unwatchable. The interviewer really needs to stay out of it more.
That’s what CNN does, cuts and chews for its audience
@@loveandotherthings1455 true
@Bryan Mack , no, I don’t expect anything from anyone. The talk is about CNN and how they manipulate or highlight the voices they want their audience to hear, AND you are free to go and check what TC does in his shows and keep comparing. Geez.
I agree
Thank you for this upload, Michael
Thank you so much, Roger, for your music and speaking truth from Russia! This is not the first time in history that Russia fights lies, and not the last time it will win :)
ну это еще и не последний раз рашкованы получают писты :) тут с тобой соглашусь
Россия!!!!💪💪💪🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
@@danilodyachok8009 от кого? От тебя чтоли?🤣 Уркаина становится все меньше и меньше)
@@ferrisbueller645 готовся к жесту доброй воли, ванюшка
I guess naZis like lots of shitty things
Almost tears, thank you so much for speak it out. I’m so surprised that CNN allowed other voice!
They are good in exposing the morons
Well, CNN is not run by the Chinese Communist Party.
@@CannibaLouiST lol
@@geno1519 is already a huge step, we don't ask for more 😂
@@eviii4987 We do .
That's just brilliant, Roger!!!
Humanity still has a chance to survive
Long live common sense💪💪💪
What a waste of fucking time, you just can't reason with some people.
С бутылки уже поднялся?
Fantastic interview, absolutely love Roger. Also much respect to the interviewer, who may disagree with Roger but does not try to shut him down, instead he listens and tries to understand his point of view. Great stuff.
Amazing, well articulated, incredible human being. Thank you Roger for speaking out the truth and stand up for us the people
lol no
He only stands for himself.
A truly useless air waster
@@M.Robespierre3691 no
lol yes
Thank you Roger Waters. Just for keeping life real!
Thank you Michael, even though your opinions went into completely opposite directions, but you still posted this, hats off for that!
I must say Roger Waters opinions on the Ukrain-Russia war totally made me scream as I was saying the exact same thing since the war started. So thanks again for this amazing clip.
I’m convinced this war was instigated by the US to get that $50 billion flowing into the military industrial complex and corrupt politicians’ pockets
So your a naZi ? On LSD like boomer Roger?
Opinions are not facts!! Waters gave facts and truth, Merco gave lies after lies. Dare to call this CNN minion for what he is: a liar for the corporate elite.
Their facts went in different directions too. Roger's facts were true.
@@timontide6404 swallow your own BS Timon, stay the minion you chose to be, people will enjoy laughing at you in public. Shame is joyful to watch. Thank you for the show.
he was on a great run about nato pushing up to Russia, and then there's a technical issue? Oh please
Roger is absolutely right on China and the Soviet sacrifice during WW2
He's correct about Russia, hasn't a clue about China.
Hats off to Roger, unlike the general public he is very well informed
He’s absolutely not.
@@endtimes814 why would there be any need for analysis? He flat out rubbished the idea that , a country who ran sweat shops that use child slave labour, who are currently treating covid stricken people like cattle. China are huge violators of human rights. He’s clearly too wired to the moon and far too busy pointing the finger at the west to know what goes on elsewhere. I think people need to remember he was the bass guitar player for Pink Floyd, his political opinions aren’t worth any more than the average man on the street, but fans just eat up whatever shit he feeds them because he can write good songs. People should also be wary of hanging on the words of a man who absolutely never refuses to accept that he could be wrong about anything, which is part of the reason he can’t maintain relationships, because he has to be right about everything.
I love PINK FLOYD music of my youth. and I love how the founder of Pink Floyd talks the real truth about russia ukraine conflict and truth about american president...
@Basik Notice how no one thinks you have anything valid to say? I see you have another comment about the alleged Uighur genocide" that's an odd genocide where the population INCREASES every year and infant mortality goes down🙄. The primary "source" for all that nonsense is a man who is not Chinese,does not live in China and is paid by the completely exposed NED, I mean they openly boast about doing openly what the CIA used to do covertly,which is trying to foment regime change.
@Basik you’re honestly a fool to deride those people that bothered to research the reality of the world outside our own borders; beyond the confined boundaries of corporate media discourse, with your absurdly biased narratives wrt U.S foreign policy decisions that routinely parrot the state dept.’s propaganda lines rather than investigate any conflict in earnest, especially when that news concerns a nation that has the potential to bring in just as much advertising revenue with a redscare headline to garner more clicks.
@Basik You’re also sorely mistaken if you think anyone in this comment section is a Qcultist. Last I checked those dinguses don’t even believe there IS a war going on in Ukraine, those of us that actually researched a variety of sources instead of skimming a CNN article know that there is indeed a war going on, just that it’s been an escalation of several conflicts since at least 2014, with breaches of the Minsk agreements on both sides, after 3300+ civilians were killed during the years of shelling that the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk. That figure is from UNICEF btw, not a Kremlin-ran media outlet. The point roger and I believe the other commenters are trying to convey is that the situation is not a matter of black and white/good vs evil as the CNN presenter implies, because he knows his salary relies on his ability to obfuscate the truth like the partisan hack he is.
@Basik , You seem --for a political junkie--whatever that is supposed to mean to have difficulty understanding English. Waters "position" is for humanity. Not for a war machine for an Empire pretending to be a "democracy."
@Basik The TRUTH hurts huh?
Big respect to Roger Waters, brilliant musician and brilliant mind ❤❤❤
Best part is at the end when Rogers tells him to go and do his reading .
HA HA HA
Me 2
Waters is right though
@Basik totally agree with you!
Waters knows nothing about millions of dead since 1950 in China, under the name of "People" republic of china. So ignorance that he still says he is telling the truth? And tells others to read books ? Sigh.....🙈🙉🙊
@Basik if the Chinese didn't slaughter people from other countries, not as far as you can tell, why would you think the narrative that the Chinese slaughtered their own countrymen is true?
@Basik The program is 28 minutes and 52 seconds long,you should be able to enumerate the lies from that,yet with no surprise at all you cite exactly NONE
Respect to Roger for his knowledge!!! And he is not afraid to tell a truth.
His truth sure, not the factual truth
@@shaund4978 People in Europe and USA do not know history of Russiaa or Ukraine. Most can not even find Ukraine on the map. They just believe mass media. Roger spoke the real thruth and I see he knows history of Russia, China. Ukraine, etc. People should read more. Mass media making me puke. Now Ukrainians saying that Roger was telling us Russian propaganda. They always do if somebody tells the truth which they don't like.
@@mafon73 lmao nice blanket statement "most cant find ukraine on a map" very objective and unbiased of you. I can tell you are way too emotional.
Russia promised it wouldnt attack ukraine if it got rid of nuclear program, what happened to that? Why doesnt roger mention that? Or the genocide in china?
You and him should go live there together. Have fun. 😂
@@shaund4978 "factual" aka the one sided propaganda in the West. As someone who moved here, I'm blown away by how people here think what they're taught is real and what everyone else is taught is fake. Even amongst Americans, half live in one reality and the other live in another reality. Yet you still can't see that your "truth" might not be the whole story. SAD!
If he speaks a narrative that you support, it doesnt automatically make it truth.
Roger is one of the few artists that step up. If you remove activism and political consciousness from art, it becomes sterile in a sort of way. Political activism results from an impulse of the soul that is not comfortable with injustice.
sure, just keep telling yourself that.
So music cant be about love or human emotions? It HAS to be about Politics?
@@thomascars1 of course it can. Read better what i wrote
"Perceived injustice" is the correct wording. The man is as wrong as he can be. I mean, the Soviets saved the world from National Socialism? Really? The Soviets who had a peace pact (Ribbentrop-Molotov) with them and were separating Poland among them and performed massacres like the one in Katyn forest? The Soviets who at the same time invaded Finland? The Soviets who, without American aid they wouldn't stand a chance against the Germans? The guy doesn't know what he's talking about. And then this "unfettered capitalism" statement! Where did he see that? If there is a reality today is OVEREGULATED capitalism (which creates many of the current lobbying problems). The man is so wrong it hurts to listen to him!
@@C_R_O_M________ brother why us waited so much time to go to war against germany. Why they did it only when the soviets were entering Berlin? Less hollywood movies brother.
From Moscow: THANK YOU, mr Waters, and thank you, mr Journalist, for not cutting stuff out ❤❤Amazing! When will people start thinking critically ?! Not many enough them listen to Pink Floyd, i guess. And want to just cosume. Thank you from the bottom of the heart.
Roger Waters,not only a great singer,but also a great human being.
Do not insult the word great!
Yea ignoring genocide is greeeat
if you consider good what Russia is doing in Ukraine, let this good returns to you a hundredfold
@@tatianahanz9783 it’s definitely good. They are helping the people in the Donbas who would have been crushed by Ukraine and their massively build up army (with help of the west). The majority of infantry fighting against the Ukrainian military are the Donetsk and Luhansk militias. People who live in East Ukraine (or who had to flee). You don’t give af about these people and you want them crushed. So stop acting like you are this great person for supporting Ukraine. You aren’t.
@@arminius504 ruZZia started the war in 2014,( girkin, zaharchenko, Motorola) All fights were fueled by ru ZZia. Mass murders, rape of children. Ukraine is sovereign country. Why did putin invade Ukraine? Why ruzzia didn't let Chechnya go?
"But what about our role as liberators ?" Jeez, some Americans still think like this!?! I mean there world is in a hell of a state, its true, but liberators..? Hope the show comes to the uk.
Role as liberators... that's very arrogant
@@Randomisticful and delusional. Which can be very dangerous to the rest of the world.
The role as liberator is the disguise. World dominance through economical, social and military aggression is the task.
"Role as liberators" is just code for, "we're the culturally superior western imperialist and we get to determine how you live your life because we're better than you".
What's truly amazing is that this was always a neocon position, no rock journalist would have dared say such a thing a few years ago.
The left has fully embraced fascism.
Roger Waters, I love you, I respect You .You are the face of Honesty and Integrity. Thanks, My Champion.
Roger Waters didn’t sell out. Good man. The interviewer is typical mainstream.
Telling the truth.. This is the hardest part for any prominent artist. Roger Waters is a champion of seeking the truth as reflected in his brilliant music for years. Thank God we have him..
As a Chinese citizen, I don’t understand where you guys get the idea of us being slaughtered by our own gvt, sure the CCP did make some terrible mistakes before, but now I would say the people are living in good condition, some say we are oppressed by our gvt, but no, our gvt actually provides a lot of social welfare for us, they listen to our comments, I don’t know why the Western media made China sounds like North Korea, I have a lot of Taiwanese friends, they are treated equally in China as we all do. So please, before you criticize a country, go and actually be there yourself and live there and THEN you will have the idea of what’s real and what’s not
You earn 1,000 social credits for your positive comments.👍
@@beeragainsthumanity1420 You have shown your ignorance on China by saying that. What social credit? No one in China lives by that.
BECAUSE YOU ARE THE BIGGEST COMPETITION!!!
Sure China is not like North Korea but critizing the government with a loud voice still get people in trouble and that's alot different than most countries in the world. The controls over all culture aspects are still too tight. Individuals sacrifice too much for the collective good. I would say it is bearable but bearly.
@@beeragainsthumanity1420 bruh, I know it’s a meme and I kinda find it funny, but pls don’t take it serious, we do have a social credit system in China, but it’s for BUSINESS, for example, if a business asked banks for loans and don’t pay back in time, they will have a low credit, and later on banks might not lend them any loans or even shut down the business if they can’t be trusted
Roger actually reads up on his shit. And states nothing but facts. None of that western propaganda bullshit. Big fan here from California💯👌🔥
I love Roger. I am 27 and he has helped shaped my outlook on the world. Thank you for everything you do and anyone who reads this stay safe, stay intelligent, and don’t ever give up
Thank you so much, Roger Waters, for having the balls to speak the truth. You are on the right side of history. The world needs more people like you at this time.....
Yes ignore genocide. Sounds like the correct side 😂
@@shaund4978 The Ukrainian Government started the genocide when the people of the Donbass region tried to break away from them after the US orchestrated a coup to overthrow Ukraine's democratically elected Government. The Ukrainian Government have killed many thousands of people in the Donbass since 2014....
@@shaund4978 The lie was originated from Mike Pompeo. If you didnt know what kind of a person he is, i suggest reading it up. His most famous quote as a former head of CIA is ”we lie, we steal, we cheat.” The Us State Department told Pompeo “no, its not true” after he told the lie. But i guess the government later decided to weaponize this lie.
However, no country’s leaders recognizes the lie. It’s the western media and politicians who keep spreading the lie, but ask macron, trudeau, and biden. Even the far right morrison from Australia refuses to make an official statement about it. I wonder why. Also, any hard evidence? Like satellite images and stuff? Only empty talks and some “interviews” from people whose lies were debunked by their own families living in Xinjiang. Well, i think it would have been much easier if Chinese government held their families hostage to shut these “speakers” or “victims” up right?
Also, when UN was voting on this issue, other than the US and its allies in the west, most of the countries in the world did not vote against China, including ALL the muslim countries. I mean, ALL OF THEM. China is the “iron brother” with Pakistan, which is a muslim country. China always speaks up openly for Palestine and openly supports their wish of forming a UN recognized country. In fact it’s the West and India who discriminate on muslims and muslims in India even fear for their lives. But you would never hear about it from wester msm. Now do you see that lots of things in the lie just dont add up? Also, urghurs are only half of the muslim population in China, every okay sized city has mosques and muslim population. I suggest you go and see for yourself, and ask chinese muslims and Uyghurs directly. Don’t believe in western msm ( I thought it’s pretty obvious by now). Go see for yourself.
I’m typing all these assuming you are not a bot. But if you are, or just a hater for no reason and dont care about the truth, kindly ignore.
As a local from Hong Kong, I totally disagree his point toward China. Yes, people should ( include him ) should study history, study what China is doing to Taiwan & HongKong.
I understand that his point is from an anti American POV. Not completely incorrect, but at least, for the China/Taiwan part. I m pretty sure he is wrong ( in term of the local people will)
Michael, thanks for posting the full video, it's such a shame that CNN skipped the important parts but not surprising. Rather than reading, listening to Roger would help a lot, he's a brilliant man and tells it straight
Nice!! Been waiting all weekend for this release and it did not disappoint. It would be phenomenal to get a longer interview with him.
This video is already the most viewed on Smerconish's channel, by far.
Credit to these two for heated yet polite and understanding and courteous conversation.
What more is needed? Its obvious that Waters is a flaming hypocrite who got rich off and lives safely in a free society while praising hyper corrupt war criminals and mass murdering fascists who imprison, poison and assassinate those who dare criticize them. Everybody in free societies is nauseated by him. Thats why the only ones who praise him are the low paid Russian and Chinese trolls who live on their knees with mouths wide open for the tyrants who oppress their own people.
Check out his super long interview with Joe Rogan
Finally, an artist whose political insight matches his art. Tremendous respect from a fan from China.
" Do the right thing " obviously no one at cnn ever got told that
I am so glad people like Roger Waters excist !
Now you know why Roger writes great music ahead of his time, he has wisdom and sharp sense of observation of the world we live in and reflect.
Puhleeeeease
Don't make me puke
If you think quick three sentence explanations and critiques address the complex and numerous problems of the modern world, you are (like Mr. Waters) dreaming. Hippy wisdom won’t cut it in a world gone mad.
@@TheEleatic If you have exactly nothing to contribute to the REAL solution, .. SILENCE is priceless !!!
He is a musician. He is great and acknowledged. Nevertheless I write music too, and one feedback I got from a highly respected poet was that I on occasion was just listing things. OK, it is easier, not such a heavy creative process. My guess is that Rogers has fallen for it too. Even though he is great, he is still human, and I do not think he is that deeply into Russian culture, to be able to judge this. We are a peace-generation, and of course, some see everything through the lense of Western fault. In this situation I see that the West is actually holding back a lot. The Russians also claim that they could do a lot worse. Keeping sane as an artist, not just showing off opinions is nevertheless a challenge these times. What is happening is horrifying, but the solution is not just to hand Ukraine over to the wild bear.
I salute Michael for posting the full uncut interview. I would echo Roger that Michael needs to read more, and more than just western mainstream media. In today's global world, diversity means hearing from sources all over the world.
Michael is such a US apologist, reading from.the entirety of US MSM gives the illusion of different voices, but if you source who funds the US MSM media then you'll soon realize there is really only one master and a singular interest, if you want to "perspective" you have to look at independent sources as well as soruces out of country, otherwise you're being duped
Reading from many but only sources of crap does not make one any wiser. That’s why Michael talks the way he does.
@@gabriellee6898 hearing in argument, watching a program, reading what someone writes is not the same as relating to what the other
Person is saying and being open to
Fair pov.
@@gabriellee6898 one person once said, I don't agree with your contrary opinion, but it forms a better vision of my world...
I watch nothing but Independent news channels and news from other countries.
Well, he needs to earn a paycheck that's why he had to tote the party line.
28 minutes of the most intelligent teachings I ever endured. His mention of the charter of rights and freedom's and his focus on that specific rule of law has set my mind back on the sovereign path. If I were he, he'd be spreading that message all day long every day, because he has the audience, and if any of those people are really listening to the message of each song, instead of being there for any other reason, then he of all possible people would influence their futures and thus, change the course of history. Don't ever forget who you are, one of we the people. We're not persons!
Hopefully your joking. If you thought a communist trying to indoctrinate the world is intelligent then I have zero hope for you
Bull
Problem is when people of conflicting wishes do not step into the most crucial battle now: saving souls. This requires circumstancial alliances with opponents to restore the 1st amendment and equity in justice.
After the left betrayed Assange, Musk is your last opportunity before an irreversible conclusion of the infamous mixture of 1984 and Brave New World.
Open your eyes to the Twitter Files really.
Mac Carthism is now produced by the anti Democrats in power and a leftist support through a Stockholm syndrom. I call them now the unten intellectuellat, negative IQ for profit. Profit is cash or social fear of not looking trendy. They do not see the obvious or think by themselves, they just replicate.
The Patriot Act extended to a new fascist Stasi, with so many leftists, self claimed progressists, collaborating to their own prison, tracking who they think are "despicable" opponents instead of simply talk and listen with common decency.
So a far away stranger is OK, but next door red or blue is The Enemy ? So if you are him who are you ?
I am proud to remember every sound and second of Waters songs. I was a baby alone far away from the parents and knew the music by heart, extended them infinitely to survive to illness and loneliness. I could see and still remember detailed images and sounds of the universe depth and beauty.
It touched me even deeper than those lads who created the music I feel now. Waters is close to truth but not enough.
Thank God he exists though.
@@charlesb6490 none of this is true / go away from me you seem evil
@@tombraam Sheep
Brave man who try to differentiate between true and untrue. Love the music … We don’t need no thought control ☮️. Also thank you for publishing the interview
I agree with Roger- this show was worth what we paid to go… I was one of those people that may well have ‘f*cked off to the bar’ a few years ago, but I approached the show with an open mind and was blown away by Roger, his band, and the production! Well done Roger 🙌
Love that two people can have vastly different views and still have a civil conversation and still respect each other. Respect.
Amen. The current situation is what one might expect when the western politicians are too corrupt for words, and have high hopes of never ending wars based on lies, with massive profits for a few.
i’m actually impressed that CNN really didn’t chop much out
This channel is not CNN :)) Wait and see what will be on it :))
@@edwardgr1698 i’m talking abt the 8 minute version, thought there would be a lot more content in this one that they left out. but most of the big points were in there
I think that CNN executives probably think this makes them look good by "Exposing Waters bigotry and RussoChinese propaganda" or some bs like that.
It did chop more than half.
Because Roger Waters have the caliber to destroy CNN reputation if they censored his views.
Roger is about TRUTH, plain and simple. God bless this man!
Don't take a musician's political view too seriously, and call it "truth".
@@Harry-mu5xl so what are we supposed to call the political views of the comedian in charge of the blue and yellow flag......
So Roger as of 10Aug is now pennyless as he gave all his money away, his net worth was $310 million 2021 now skint and does free shows not to make money(must catch a show one day) Roger is a CHAMPION SOCIALIST sorry CHAMPAYNE SOCIALIST who says one thing and does another, my definition HIPPOCRETIN CLASS 1.
@@alhughs4062 If you're talking about Zelenskyy, the Ukrainians voted him to be president. You have a problem with that?
@@Harry-mu5xl you mean after the coup in 2014.... not only that, he promised peace, not only that he acknowledged the 2 treaties, not only that .... get where i am going....so no i dont got a problem with people electing who ever they want, so long as its fair and leagle, lets face it, its a long way from that, if you do your unbiased research. So have a nice day, i mean that, this world has enough going on in already without putting fire into peoples belly.
Hearing Roger makes me understand him more and actually thinking I'm a lot like him. He's an amazing artist and so is the rest of Pink Floyd, much respect to him
Roger, thank you!!!! Thank you for educating your interviewer. He definitely has his own propaganda and prejudices without doing the proper work like you. Many more years to you brother!
Yes ignoring genocide, props brotha!
HAAAA!
@@shaund4978 what genocide? A million dead Iraqis?
He mentioned Yemen and Palestine.
He mentioned Yemen and Palestine
Wow a man who knows what’s going on and dares to speak.
Yet he has no problem enjoying the fruits of American diplomacy from his mansion in the Hamptons
@@Ck-zk3we This kind of reaction is the protection of self delusion. Your mind has been broken. In America we dont do diplomacy, we do brute force and bullying. I wish you luck with your mental problems and brain washing
@@Ck-zk3we Especially as he don't need no education.
@@Ck-zk3we Your giving to much credit to the diplomats. More like hard work and creatively.
indeed very unusual . try this in Scandinavia and you will be torn up !
You've never let me down, Roger, in all the 40 years that I've been your fan. Thanks, buddy!
Waters (11:03): “This war [Russia’s war in Ukraine] is basically about the action and reaction of NATO pushing right up to the Russian border, which they promised they wouldn’t do when Gorbachev negotiated the withdrawal of the USSR from the whole of Eastern Europe. They said ‘we will do that on one condition that you don’t come one inch closer to the Russian border than the eastern borders of Germany’, and you, if I may include you, as an American, agreed to that and said 'sure'.”
“the withdrawal of the USSR from the whole of Eastern Europe”
That is a lie. Not from the whole of Eastern Europe, but only from East Germany after its reunion with West Germany.
About NATO “promising” not to expand itself to the Russian border. It is another lie. That promise was made to the USSR, not to Russia, during a meeting of US secretary of state James A. Baker and former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, in a discussion on the status of a reunited Germany. It was agreed that NATO would not extend past the territory of East Germany, a promise repeated by NATO’s secretary general in a speech on May 17 that same year in Brussels. The agreement stipulating that was inked when the USSR still existed and the countries of Eastern Europe were still part of the Soviet structures. But after the Soviet Union officially dissolved, the agreement terminated and everything was rearranged completely. Governed by Soviet Moscow before, all the ex-Soviet republics as well as the countries of Eastern Europe finally became officially sovereign and free.
Most Ukrainians believed there was no reason for Ukraine to join NATO or some other defence alliance until the Russian aggression against Ukraine became obvious and started escalating itself in 2014. Before 2014, Russia’s anti-Ukrainian policy was much milder, based considerably on lobbying. But after Yanukovych (Ukraine’s then-current president who was a Russia’s proxy) fell, Moscow went increasingly brutal about Ukraine. Russia has always been breaking the laws, with the Budapest Memorandum being one of those that Russia broke. “Go and read about” the Budapest Memorandum. Meanwhile, Ukraine, as a sovereign state, has its own right to choose its own way of development, choose its partners and etc., while it is not for Moscow to decide.
What about Sweden and Finland to join NATO? Surprisingly, this turns out no problem for Russia despite having a much longer border with NATO in the end and despite the Baltic Sea eventually turning into NATO’s inland sea. Getting NATO at the border with Finland, Russia will never ever invade this country just because of NATO to be there.
Wow some actual truth being told on this thread. A few of us are not fawning groupies to a self righteous obnoxious megalomaniac.
Well, If situatuon turned out that Russia started to build military bases and trainings around the US border, would you accuse Russia? Of course you will. If US do so, there are billion excuses. You become silent when you need to, and start fucking screaming when other country do the same thing as you. The only difference is that you did so two decades ago, and Russia do it now. History is key to all your questions.
Roger Waters is the one childhood hero of mine that I have grown to respect more over the years. A real champion for a better world.
I feel sorry for you -- he is an egotistical lout who likes making boring shitty muzak
ignoring a genocide, great
@@shaund4978 explain what you mean
@@brock9380 he says the genocide in China is bullocks
Great advice from his mum. The world needs more mums like that so there's a greater good in the world.
Too bad he didn’t have a dad to teach him to be a man
@@Ck-zk3we That was uncalled for. And, untrue. What have you offered the World Mr.Testosterone?
@@kellyfrancis1873 he offers not bowing to a controling dictator
@@Ck-zk3we YOU sound 👂like a troll.
@@kellyfrancis1873 He taught me not to be a flaming hypocrite who got rich off and lives safely in a free society while praising hyper corrupt war criminals and mass murdering fascists who imprison, poison and assassinate those who dare criticize them. What did daddy dearest teach YOU, Vladimir?
Listen to Roger instead of your bloody propaganda.
We're waiting to hear your music again in Saint Petersburg , Russia ♥️
Pink Floyd was an iconic rock band in the USSR - and still remains an iconic group in Russia. I think I won't be mistaken if I say PF music significantly influenced the mindset of several generations of Russians, even though the language barrier existed.... The freedom and justice spirit of thier music could be understood without lyrics. I am from Russia and I consider Roger Waters, being an outstanding musician, to be also the greatest warrior for peace and justice in the World. I think only John Lennon could could be ranked same scale.
Thank you Roger❤
Bravo Roger standing up to propaganda about covid terrorism and the profits the did Big Tech , Pfizer and Big Pharma corporations . It is amazing and insane how many people still watching tv , radio and maistream !!! And believing of gloriuos Usa democracy and its Israel goverment friend !
You gotta have a clear unbiased sense of culture, history in order to be a true musician. Thanks Roger for speaking out. Great interview.
Do you mean he s NOT a musician then :)
@@recuerdos2457 go read some books. Don’t get brainwashed by your msm.
As a musician myself, i have to tell you that this is sadly not often the case. In fact concious people who cut through the propaganda B.S. and think for themselves, are rare among musicians as much as among other groups or professions. Even extremely talented and sensitive artists like Sting or Stevie Wonder, for example, are totally clueless on the Russian Ukraine situation.
@@michaelp9061 I have a book for you to read ( if you can read) -- it’s called The Little Black Book of Communism
@@musamusashi you mean the situation where a superpower bully invaded it’s neighbor murdering hundreds of thousands?
Didn't expect to like this, but I loved it.
Great interview. It show how civil it can be when differences of view is presented in a discussion. I hope the CNN cut shows the full version. The problem nowadays is people are living in different realities becoz of what they are shown on social medias and often biased journalism (Yes, I meant CNN, Fox News, etc). As a Chinese Canadian living in Asia, I have to agree with Roger. Americans need to read and watch more news from our side of the world. Perhaps listen to people who are living in Asia to get a different perspective. And NO, we don’t need US to be the liberator. It’s just a nice way to justify American Exceptionalism.
I caught a tension there briefly until they caught themselves.
Most people with Ukrainian flags on their profiles have never heard of the coup that removed Viktor Yanukovych ,the war in the Donbass since 2014,the Minsk agreement and the agreement between NATO and USSR not to expand eastwards towards Russia.
To characterise this kind of discussion as a sincere moral dialectic is mistake. Smerconish, like every one of his corporate media peers, is not exercising a carefully considered and genuinely held personal viewpoint, rather he's obfuscating, misleading and propagandising, because that's what he's paid for. Still I suppose it is a positive thing that, in this age of dissident censorship, CNN is platforming voices like Waters at all (even if they did pull the tired old microphone adjustment trick that's so often used when a speaker gets into their flow.) Though a clear-eyed cynic might come away from this interview wondering if the "powers that be" aren't trying to reverse the public opinion they've worked so hard to cultivate in recent months as they look to construct an off-ramp from the US's disastrous and untenable Ukranian misadventure.
@@fredfredrickson5436 “microphone adjustment trick”? Jesus are all you tankies this paranoid? 😂
Either way you’re an apologist for a right-wing autocrat who invaded a sovereign neighbouring state. A US-backed coup in 2014 and sectarian violence in eastern Ukraine do not justify such an escalation. Irredentism & revanchism are ethno-nationalist doctrines that no one on the left should support. Russia unilaterally deciding to get involved militarily for so-called benevolent reasons is just as heinous and likely to backfire as US interventions have been in the rest of the world. Consistent application of principles is important if you want to be taken seriously!
Smart man - both men really - but I don't like to think that Roger's default position on world affairs is what Smerconish (almost) says it is, which is that "the West" is always at fault, always the aggressor, always wrong. Never a liberator, always nefarious. It's true there is a mountain of evidence that America has inflicted great suffering around the world, and used a "Might Makes Right" approach all too often to get what it wants. But there's also evidence that America has done enormous good in the world as well.
I agree whole heartedly with Roger.
That may be a problem. Why not think for yourself?
@@AussieTVMusic He said he agrees They share the common thought . Do you think?
@@AussieTVMusic , I do think for myself, I just happen to agree entirely with what Roger said, is that a problem for you?
and now look at the million Iraqis that did NOT get killed in the war. Biased study and far from all others. More importantly more than 80% of those deaths weren't by US forces.
@@chrisgarret3285 Utter crap.
He's not giving anyone a pass- he's stating what happened and how to avoid this in the future.
He just gave China a pass... The most prolific violaters of human rights in the entire history of mankind. They killed 80 million of their own people and he denied it. He's a disgusting pig.
If you love Roger Waters like I do, no matter what your political affiliation is, you MUST watch this whole interview! What my take from it is “the truth shall set you FREE”! Wishing you all the best on your tour Roger, and wishing all of humanity peace of mind, happiness, good health and prosperity to ALL and their families. We must end the suffering! 😔😔
🙏🌏☮️❤️
AMEN to that!🙏🏽
Is this not the full interview? Is this a longer version than "the uncut" version?
Waters is like John Lennon. He is both a genius of music and a brave lonely fighter against the western propaganda machine. Such people are truly unique. Thank you Roger
I was thinking the same, he is the John Lennon of Pink Floyd, or the Jim Morrison of Doors.
John Lennon was a free soul, he was never a agent of propaganda and ignorance
WRONG. Time for you to grow up.
Too bad Waters isn't a fighter against the Russian propaganda machine!
I remember listening to The Final Cut in 1983. It was banned in USSR because of "..Brezhnev took Afghanistan.." piece. Was still widely listen and known. Roger did not changed a bit. Full respect.
About "Brezhnev took Afghanistan", it helps to read (2009) The Great Gamble, by Gregory Feifer. I have only read the introductory part, but this is a book that elucidates the breadth of circumstances that led to the Soviet entry, and the contributions of destabilization that were created in the sequence. Many of the current problems stem absolutly from destabilization and destabilizers, than from the actors - Soviets and Afhgans.
Citizens of USSR were allowed to travel freely to Yugoslavia way before the rest of Europe. Many were buying western records in shops and taking them back to USSR.
I remember wanting to buy new double LP live Pink Floyd album one day and a buss load of Russians came to largest records shop in Belgrade just before I went in and bought everything that was worth having, including Pink Floyd 🤣😂🤣
Привет из Белграда братья, ми Серби с вами всегда!
@@djape1977 One of my classmates and good friend has Yugoslavian father. Not sure what nationality, was not thinking about it in those good old times.. He indeed supplied us with records and was super popular for this reason. Among girls too. Lucky ba..d :)
For me The Final Cut is possibly my favourite Floyd Album, though over the many Years i have adored the music of Floyd it has slipped from top spot on occasion. Time is a strange thing :)
Do you understand what means 'Brezhnev took Afghanistan' ? Andropov and his censor guys didn't.)
As a huge Pink Floyd fan it warms my heart that one of my favorite musicians also seems to be one of the few people that have stayed sane during this massive neofascist propaganda offensive the US and EU are doing currently.
I know I’m so happy I can enjoy my Pink Floyd albums knowing there is truth in the music!!
umm what?
both sides are neofascist
@@kellymulderino7156 umm nothing go back to your hivemind
You're deluded. This war was the last thing the US and EU wanted. Putin started it and now NATO has to end it. The planet can't have someone like Putin given license to invade other countries without recriminations.
Thank you for posting this interview. I only got the clips so far. This really is an eye opener.
because of the media blockade and pro-Ukrainian absolutely uncritical Western propaganda, people do not know the truth about this war and its causes
The only thing Roger Waters wants to do is wave the white flag.
“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse... A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -- John Stuart Mill
Roger is smart
Great! I was so enjoying this. Finally someone got a courage to say the truth!
Waters gets that Biden needs to encourage Zelensky into negotiating peace talks with Russia and end this unwinnable war. And Roger Waters is correct in mentioning the Minsk agreements, which western Ukraine reneged on and started this war with ethnic Russians in the Donbas in 2014.
You must be either an american or just delusional to believe that any kind of peace treaties will stop putin from occupying all of Ukraine. But you probably don't care about it anyway, why should you
They (Biden, Zelenskyy) are both two sides of the same coin. They are drip feeding US taxpayers funds towards the most corrupt country on planet earth: Ukraine. All under the fake guise of a Russia invasion. Both are puppet leaders, corrupt to the core perpetuating their very own criminality whilst ushering in a manufactured recession to the American people.
Yes but majority of people don’t care about it or they close their eyes on it. Because Russophobia is real. They try to ban Russian food, Russian books, everything that had the word Russia or has to do with Russia. I didn’t see no American books or music or movies being banned when they attacked other countries and caused chaos.
total bull
Love Roger waters , but easier to have opinions on poverty when a multi millionaire.
Go Roger, give him some facts and he falls apart and wants to joke. Imagine if people like Roger were in power the world would be in a better place. Ha ha, "Who's Hilary, didn't he climb Everest?"
He would make a fantastic president, imagine the establishment establishing sucj a popular and principled figure, it would be RIP for the legacy media hybrid establishment
Like for Roger's brave heart! Respect and support Roger.
How does liking your comment do that?
The word "like" is a noun here, but not a verb in the imperative mood.
@@rmur206 Google translate is not your friend.
Imperative mood? Wtf?
Linguistics. Study it.
@@rmur206 What the fuck for? I'm 47 years old and have a degree in electronics and electrical engineering.
Why the hell would I want to study something as asinine as linguistics?
What a good interview. Thank you Roger for speaking the truth.
@0Jebus0 You are completely disconnected from reality...Not even worth elaborating on such ridiculous statement...Educate yourself...
@@stralestrale47 Useless comment. Either respond with the substance, or keep it to yourself. Russia HAS signed treaties and stated NATO is not a threat to Russia. This is well document and you can find troves of records on that with a low effort search. Take your own medicine...educate yourself.
@0Jebus0
NATO attacked Serbia and Libya. You say defensive alliance?!
@0Jebus0 NATO has broken treaties so of course Russia will not trust them
@0Jebus0 you discuss it from your perspective and I am a Romanian, so very much anti-Russian military, pro-NATO and all that. BUT, to be fair, if you look at the map, there is no coincidence about Georgia and Ukraine entering into talks with the West to join the NATO alliance. It is a strategy of the US to contain Russia, who is an autocracy/dictatorship, always was and has 50% of worlds nuclear weapons. Taiwan is also a similar case, where following the civil war in the 40's Chiang Kai-Shek retreated to that island with what was left of his army. That was an opportunity for US to have a ally right up China's (whatever body part you prefer). So you can see a strategy pattern here. When the Russians moved into Cuba, we all know what happened, it wasn't Mexico, was Cuba but was close enough (watch the map) and they had to get out with their missiles, otherwise threat of nuclear war was rampant. SO IT DOES MATTER THE GEOGRAPHICAL PROXIMITY. Russia being contained, as far as I am concerned, is a good thing, you cannot rely that a Russian dictator (in this case Putin) will not go bonkers with absolute power wanting to make history and nuke his enemies while in his 3 km underground 10 year survival bunker. This containment strategy makes it a lose-lose scenario for sure, with no certainty of being able to anihilate your opponent before he does. But Roger Waters looks from a humanitarian standpoint, thinking we can all be reasoned with and I believe this is where his mistake is. NOT ALL LEADERS CAN BE REASONED WITH. Some do go mad with having absolute power. Did that shade some light into your rethorical question?
Wow thank you for not cutting this short. You butted heads a few times there, pretty different view points, I respect you for not censoring him.