@@kobedabest That's easy to answer: The flywheel is `8 percent lighter. The turbo lag issue is fixed with the simplest change, a smaller turbo. The rev hang problem with the FK8 is nonexistent. The cooling is vastly improved not only by a revised intercooler but a vent that makes sense. The power and torque curves are nearly identical to the previous Type R up until about 2600 RPMs where it jumps up 9 horsepower and 15 lb-ft. I could go on. All of these components require the slightest tweaks to the K20C1 to make it better. The downside being its stance and weight that makes it bad for drag racing out the door.
Civic looks so good from the side Wasn't a fan at first but after seeing a couple base models locally I love them and that type r red interior never gets old
Hey Matt. I've got a GR Yaris too. Are you aware that if you switch the safety aids off and stick it in sport mode, you kill the soft limiter? Just thought I'd chuck it in there mate. Cheers
Christ! Yianni shifts with the aggression of an ape. The key is quick and crisp shifts, not brute force. I'm surprised the shifter didn't break in half and the trans has to be begging for mercy!
@@snakeeyes9246 turbo 3 cylinder with open pipes sounds like a baby V6. Turbo Inline 4 sound great if they rev higher than 6.5K like every modern POS car that they (manufacturers) make.
The Civic seems like it's a much better car 'all round'- more practical and doesn't look like my grandma would drive it. If the Yaris was a lot cheaper then I would agree but at least in my country, both are equally crazy overpriced.
So both of these cars would be annihilated in the straight line by the Golf GTI Clubsport, let alone a Golf R. Heck, 13.9sec for the type R is just 0.1sec ahead of a standard 245ps Golf GTI. And people think that car not “hot” enough. LOL.
@@HondaBetter Which Golf breaks down once a year? all cars break down if not treated and maintained properly. If you mod a GTI to 600PS, then yes, probably it will break down.
@@stevepeacock4265 I was about to write this. People don't understand that it's not as simple as "oh so and so drive train loss, because dyno told me so". How the whole thing is engineered matters. Which is why these two cars are so close, despite more than 60 horsepower difference.
@@stevepeacock4265 better engineer? Really? What about suspension problem and cylinder head gasket problem? 🤦 Look at the size .. almost haft of type R 😅 that's the power + weight
Yaris incredible? Cant get away? Are you joking?XD Your gay Toyota didnt took a single round with awd in this drag competition. In a racetrack the Civic would kill the yaris. As it has always been a toyota just cant win against Hondas
Matt, next time you wanna rev the GR Yaris standing still, hold the tc off button(while standing still) for a few seconds until the line on your display, that says 'sport', 'track' or 'expert' says nothing anymore. That is how you turn off both your traction control completely aswell as your rev limiter. 🙂
Glad the commentors are letting the "car channel experts" know how to properly drive their own cars. Is every channel jut full of actors today? Not a single content expert on YT anymore. Or at least the content experts do not have channels playing the algorithms game well enough to get recommended.
@@angelgjr1999 I had to Google the specs of your car 'cause I couldn't believe a 4.6L V8 mustang of this century makes less hp than the yaris. Damn I stand corrected.
In Australia the GR Yaris is 200kW (268hp) and 370Nm And the new Type R is 235kW (315hp) and the same 420Nm of torque So some very slight differences, usually to do with the different climate of the countries, or each country must have its own rules & regulations.
It's a hard one. I love the type r, although the price and performance haven't gone in the best way. With the money of a type r you can buy thing like te vw GTI o even a second hand A35 AMG... I remember the 2016 one, just amazing, loved that car!
You should not rev that Yaris so much you are wasting power, little turbo charge engines deliver everything between 5.5k to 6.0k after that the power band falls hard
Yanni shifting with gusto! Well done! Regardless of how good the Type R is on a racetrack and considering that I am not a fan of FWD in the real world, given the choice between those two it would be the Yaris for me. That being said, if I were picking from a list of current hot hatches, I'd probably go for the Golf R.
@@van_der_lindeDA they are fun at 8/10 driving, but feel a bit leaden next to GR. I have 7.5 with remap. It’s fast, but the GR is quick everywhere on the roads
In the slim chance, Mat will be able to see this...can you please switch drivers in these videos as well after the first couple of races to see if the result differs?
Why on earth would you bother with the new gen Type R man, it's not 12k pounds faster than the Yaris which can probably match it with a simple remap and it's still SO MUCH CHEAPER. And you get to drift and behave a little hooliganish in a little Yaris, that Civic makes no sense!
Honda has secured six World Constructors’ Championships, six World Drivers’ Championships, and over 80 Grands Prix-ranking fifth in Formula One history. Additionally, their three Grand Prix wins (won by RedBull: Max Verstappen) as a team owner make them the only Japanese or Asian team to win in Formula One. So, Honda’s success in Formula One is a testament to their engineering prowess and dedication to motorsport excellence! And they make great handling cars with their F1 experiences: Honda NSX & Honda Civic Type R.
Type R or GR Yaris... Which are you choosing?
VOTE: Type R!
VOTE: GR Yaris!
Yaris
Please toyota yaris gr vs audi s1
Yaris
The type-R hasn't necessarily gone up in value, it's gone up in price, which is NOT the same thing.
Last gen honda type r used is cheaper then the yaris which is crazy how much they charge for the new one.
@@ZombiEDDudE most fk8 sits at 40 to 38k
If you had one and looked inside, realize the technology that’s been added, and the improvements to the engine, you’d see the price increase at MSRP
@@Xchax3 what engine improvement 🤣
@@kobedabest That's easy to answer: The flywheel is `8 percent lighter. The turbo lag issue is fixed with the simplest change, a smaller turbo. The rev hang problem with the FK8 is nonexistent. The cooling is vastly improved not only by a revised intercooler but a vent that makes sense. The power and torque curves are nearly identical to the previous Type R up until about 2600 RPMs where it jumps up 9 horsepower and 15 lb-ft. I could go on. All of these components require the slightest tweaks to the K20C1 to make it better. The downside being its stance and weight that makes it bad for drag racing out the door.
Interesting results. GR yaris is really something special. I wonder how the two compares when it comes to lap timing in a race track.
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Civic looks so good from the side
Wasn't a fan at first but after seeing a couple base models locally I love them and that type r red interior never gets old
It's ight tbh. It's so long tho that's what I don't like about it. Front is cool breaks are cool and wing is cool. Integra Type S is better looking
The way yianni was changing gears as if he was ripping the gear box 😂😂
He changed gears nearly as many times as they do in Fast and Furious films.
10 speed manual
EP3 style lol
Yianni, ripping the 'ead off it 😂
yianni TORRETO gear Shift
Yanni changing gear like he’s ripping a spade out of dried concrete 😂
😂😂 poor gearbox, he tears it a new one
"Hey synchros... up yours, synchros!"
DMO shifts 😂
I thought he was pretending to be a blacksmith working on a horseshoe.
These videos are such fun! Love seeing Yianni so competitive and Mat having such a laugh.
Yanni shifts gears like Fast and Furious Movies. So funny😂
Yianni shifts those like when driving Porsche 959.
He learned it from Dmo
He sits and drives like an oaf
You mean granny shifting? 😂
I feel sorry for that Honda gear box....
Hey Matt. I've got a GR Yaris too. Are you aware that if you switch the safety aids off and stick it in sport mode, you kill the soft limiter? Just thought I'd chuck it in there mate. Cheers
Thanks for that!
@@chrisdooley1184 agree. Those tidbits are somehow interesting.
Glad you said that so next time he is using his GR Yaris in a drag race he can enjoy up the revs 😅
Shame that Matt never reads the comments lol
😂 does he not?
Christ! Yianni shifts with the aggression of an ape. The key is quick and crisp shifts, not brute force. I'm surprised the shifter didn't break in half and the trans has to be begging for mercy!
£47k for that Civic is absolutely mental.
I’d rather pay that than pay 10k less for a Yaris - damn the japs want scolded for putting the price up 12k in a year
Bet you couldn't even find one for 47k
Ford will sell soon direct to clients with out the middle retail dealers so much less money... hope more companies will follow
i don't know where he got that one from,here it's around 60-70k€
@@cater4anytink45 cheapest on Auto trader is £49k💀 also, seen a GR Yaris for sale in one of the dealerships for £37k🤦🏽🤣
Yanni doing better gear changes than that top gear guy.
That top gear guy always seems to lose as well
😂 low gear is useless now 😂 no Hammond Jeremy Clarkson and ...... No interest watching top gear
Better than Stig
@@Smzxe exactly
So kind x
Toyota should make a 4 cylinder version of the yaris
The normal yaris is 4 cylinder if I am not mistaken.
Imagine buying a manual car after Yianni drove it 💀
For sure “broken in”
Hahahaha loosy linkages
Honda Civic Tipe R 2023 in Indonesian $ 93,800 Dollar 😮
@@Matty_Champwhite 230k usd in Sri Lanka
@@guycha0s380 ?
Wish we got that Yaris in the states. People here aren’t ready for it 😢
Damn Yianni was doing them Fast and Furious gear changes 😂 awesome race
Yeah baby
@@yiannimize Yianni nailed those always.
@@yiannimize 🙌🏻
He is PDK in the flesh
anything for the family innit?
The cuts to how quiet the race is from the outside killed me😂
Well, it is a race between a turbo 3 cylinder and a turbo 4 cylinder. Those are generally not the best sounding engines.
@@snakeeyes9246 turbo K20s usually sound mental though, can't say the same for these new ones
@@snakeeyes9246 wish we could see Porsche 959 vs 2023 Civic Type R.
@@snakeeyes9246 turbo 3 cylinder with open pipes sounds like a baby V6. Turbo Inline 4 sound great if they rev higher than 6.5K like every modern POS car that they (manufacturers) make.
Toyota and Honda stock exhausts, made for crowded japanese city streets
Well £47,000 for the Type R makes no sense.
Nice to see Matt and Yan racing together, I can’t believe that he thought a Civic TYPE R would be 80,000!
he’s not the brightest button
$80,000 Australian Dollars is an understatement. You're looking about $100,000, which is just nuts. I guess this is a rather rare model.
@@Presto_001 You can almost always double a cars value from USD or GBP to AUD. It's kinda sad to think about. Even when we had a stronger dollar.
In Thailand it costs 92K pounds equivalent
They probably cost close to that in the states tbf, the markups are ridiculous
Yannie shifts like a street racer who has something to prove😂
I love the Yaris. With the all wheel drive I think that it's a much better value for the money.
The Civic seems like it's a much better car 'all round'- more practical and doesn't look like my grandma would drive it.
If the Yaris was a lot cheaper then I would agree but at least in my country, both are equally crazy overpriced.
All Toyota needs to do is fuse two Yaris GR inline-3 together and give us a proper Toyota made inline-6 engine.
why? stock motor gr yaris can do 10's 1/4miles and forged internals does 9's 1/4 miles lol eg. "Lamspeed racing"
@@WES-GR4PES Supra would do with I6 tein turbo.... or make Camry sleeper
So both of these cars would be annihilated in the straight line by the Golf GTI Clubsport, let alone a Golf R. Heck, 13.9sec for the type R is just 0.1sec ahead of a standard 245ps Golf GTI. And people think that car not “hot” enough. LOL.
@@Mav86asian yeah but type r isn’t about straight line at all, better handling than any golf. Also won’t break down on you once a year 🤣
@@HondaBetter Which Golf breaks down once a year? all cars break down if not treated and maintained properly. If you mod a GTI to 600PS, then yes, probably it will break down.
When you consider the fact the Yaris is circa 80WHP down, I'd have expected the rolls to be vastly different.
Power to weight ftw I guess!
Totally agree.
Power to weight and it depends on how much power is lost via the transmission, this suggests the Yaris is better engineered
@@stevepeacock4265 I was about to write this. People don't understand that it's not as simple as "oh so and so drive train loss, because dyno told me so". How the whole thing is engineered matters. Which is why these two cars are so close, despite more than 60 horsepower difference.
@@stevepeacock4265 better engineer? Really? What about suspension problem and cylinder head gasket problem? 🤦 Look at the size .. almost haft of type R 😅 that's the power + weight
@@gameislife4777 literally the only one documented head gasket problem was the car that had 500 hp forced into it
It would be cool to see the GR Corolla vs. the Civic Type R as they're similar sized cars!
Yianni did very good with a manual especially he barely has driven a manual! Hats off to him
I dont know if the clutch agrees with you
Thank you
@@mrle0719 oi 😂
@@mrle0719 wish he applied a racing clutch plate.
@@mrle0719 who knows 😏
Mat with all the cars: let's make 7 launches
Mat with his own Yaris: let's make rolling races only please
😂😂 I fully understand your point
Yes. Mat with Aston Martin DB9: Lets make 15 rolling start races.
I think they also both got the best launches they thought they could get so no point in repeating
@@diplogod5704 nah, he just doesn't want to ruin his gearbox and awd components, it does have point , entertaining us
Yep, Matt is the type of guy that doesn't mind destroying other's cars, but not his...
@@juanpablozawadzki306 im guessing you're the type of guy who would rather destroy his own car, rather than somebody else's.
I know the GR Corolla is here in the US but I still want the GR Yaris
I’m a Honda guy all the way but that Yaris looks great and the package is awesome 🤩
Yianni was in that car shifting like DMO Deejay 😂😂😂
I saw some pop up banners. I'm impressed. Well done Carwow Editors
Let's focus on the most important thing here, the smiles that manual shifts provide regardless of the times posted... :-)
That Yaris is incredible.
Much less power then the Honda but the type R still can’t get away from the Toyota. Good stuff GR !
It's also about 200kg lighter with AWD.
Not surprising if you know the facts
Yea the Civic looks (and feels) a lot more premium - especially inside, but the price is just insane. Mind you, the Yaris is expensive also.
@@chillikoala exactly!!!
Yaris incredible? Cant get away? Are you joking?XD Your gay Toyota didnt took a single round with awd in this drag competition. In a racetrack the Civic would kill the yaris. As it has always been a toyota just cant win against Hondas
The amount of road noise the civic has, is insane as the price. At least my 10th gen is. One of the most expensive car in it's class.
Got my GR Yaris 2,5 half years ago and it still put´s a big grin in my face when i´m driving it 😀😀😀
Any issues at all or just service?
@@hyper_channel no issues so far - only service(s) (4 times - every 10.000 km)
Yanni shifts like a maniac 😂
Like a pillock
GR Yaris gang ✊
Matt, next time you wanna rev the GR Yaris standing still, hold the tc off button(while standing still) for a few seconds until the line on your display, that says 'sport', 'track' or 'expert' says nothing anymore. That is how you turn off both your traction control completely aswell as your rev limiter. 🙂
Glad the commentors are letting the "car channel experts" know how to properly drive their own cars. Is every channel jut full of actors today? Not a single content expert on YT anymore. Or at least the content experts do not have channels playing the algorithms game well enough to get recommended.
I own a GR yaris for 1 yr now, I didn’t know this.. thx 😮
Both great cars undoubtedly. But the Yaris is far more superior and special. On those country roads the Yaris would smash the Civic
Love the Yaris GR.
I am happy that Yanni didn't destroy that stick...:) great battle guys!
Video starts at 4:30
It’s so wholesome to see two guys having a nice conversation
Agree.
Mat, try revving the Yaris with the traction control off (not expert mode) and you'll see there's not soft limiter anymore 😁😁
... and u can then run high 12s
Sounds crap anyway
@@rappertoad8950 you should do detailed car reviews, world class bro.
@@akent46 I was surprised how bad their times are. My 2003 Mustang GT is faster with less hp. I guess rwd is better than fwd in drag races.
@@angelgjr1999 I had to Google the specs of your car 'cause I couldn't believe a 4.6L V8 mustang of this century makes less hp than the yaris. Damn I stand corrected.
I had a VW Golf with 320 hp and FWD. The vehicle was a disaster in terms of driving dynamics! I would never in my life associate "motorsport" with FWD
Yianni always looks like he's going to wrench the gear lever out of the car. I feel sorry for it :)
What about Porsche 959 vs Toyota Yaris GR?
Yianni has clearly been hanging out with DMO way too much with those shifts 😂
GR because it's a one off car with its own engine, AWD power train not just a. performance version
Nice drag race carwow. I like these rarer hot hatches drag races. I'm looking forward to seeing what else you have coming up! 👀
Agree. Imagine if we got GR Yaris vs Aston Martin DB9.
@@purwantiallan5089 but why
The price for both of these cars is insane. Price increase per generation has accelerated faster than the cars do!
In Australia the GR Yaris is 200kW (268hp) and 370Nm
And the new Type R is 235kW (315hp) and the same 420Nm of torque
So some very slight differences, usually to do with the different climate of the countries, or each country must have its own rules & regulations.
In the states we got the Corolla gr which is 300hp 😮
Well done Yanni, probably the best I've seen a type R launch of the line, just feel abit sorry that gearbox 🥵
CarWow delivers always good content! Thanks Matt and the team!
any Yianni content is gold
Another Japanese carwow banger
I'd take the Yaris any time.. Good to see the pair of you again...Carry on with the entertainment........
Agreed. By the way... Wish we could see Porsche 959 vs Toyota Yaris.
I had back in the days a civic dxi with vtec engine. 900 kg 9000 rpm. Was really fun to drive.
Omg the race I've been waiting for
Yianni is full of surprises.. first he beat mat in off-road challenge with a manual box now this..
It’s how I do baby lol
@@yiannimize 😀
These cars are absolutely great on the track.thr combination of the breaks and handling make them run circles around higher powered cars on track days
It's a hard one. I love the type r, although the price and performance haven't gone in the best way. With the money of a type r you can buy thing like te vw GTI o even a second hand A35 AMG... I remember the 2016 one, just amazing, loved that car!
Wish we could see a drag against Porsche 959.
The GTi or A35 are poor cars compared to these.
Keep up the good work carwow 😊
Agree.
A fair test would be Honda civic type R vs Toyota corolla GR.
I'm a petrol head, and I approve of this video. 🏁
Man they both need new exhausts, sounds like an EV race from the outside
Mat! Question? Can we see the first production Mazda 3 MPS 2008 Model against all these new hatchbacks, it will do a pretty good JOB🔥🔥🔥
Yanni is going to break the gearbox
I've got a GR Yaris and I'm tempted to get a Type R. It's such a complete package and looks good.
do it. alternate one each days
Just upgraded the turbo and intercooler then you will have a better car all around
The Yaris is a far more special car and ripe for mods
Tune it
It's better to buy a 2022 or a 2021 version than the newer Civic Type R
You should not rev that Yaris so much you are wasting power, little turbo charge engines deliver everything between 5.5k to 6.0k after that the power band falls hard
Yanni got personal with the gear lever....
Never seen Yianni lost a break test
That Honda is starting to look like a Kia stinger in the back 😂😅
Finally a drag race video that's about cars, the amount of all sorts of wrong that keeps coming up when I type in drag race is unbelievable.
Yanni shifting with gusto! Well done! Regardless of how good the Type R is on a racetrack and considering that I am not a fan of FWD in the real world, given the choice between those two it would be the Yaris for me. That being said, if I were picking from a list of current hot hatches, I'd probably go for the Golf R.
I have a R and a GR. GR is more fun
Golf R, how exciting
@@van_der_lindeDA they are fun at 8/10 driving, but feel a bit leaden next to GR. I have 7.5 with remap. It’s fast, but the GR is quick everywhere on the roads
The clincher for me is the Yaris is missing a couple of doors.
Those gear changes from yianni ♥️
He was doing proper power shifts there as i did in my young age when drag race 😍
these 2 guys are the best combo on this show , goated lol
Got to admit that Yianni shifting skill is pretty amazing
Umm what?!
Yianni banging gears like a pro blew my mind!!!
Wie der Civic Fahrer die Gänge reinrotzt, ist ganz großes Kino🍿
GR yaris🏁❤️🏁❤️🏁❤️.
One of the first comparissons that were fair between the two cars! Thank You!!
What a great race idea that I would have never thought of
"£80k? what planet are you on?"
guess I'm not living on earth🤷♂
In the slim chance, Mat will be able to see this...can you please switch drivers in these videos as well after the first couple of races to see if the result differs?
The race I've waited months for...🤗💯👍
Even on the roll, the GR held its own. Surprised.
8 MILLION!! WELL DONE
Why on earth would you bother with the new gen Type R man, it's not 12k pounds faster than the Yaris which can probably match it with a simple remap and it's still SO MUCH CHEAPER. And you get to drift and behave a little hooliganish in a little Yaris, that Civic makes no sense!
Finally a new Civic Type R that isn't riced out from the factory.
Yianni vs matt are the best videos by far
Only one is inspired by a WRC competition car; and is probably a better 'real world' car.
Honda for life. Currently I am using Civic ESI 95, and City 2022. My dream car is the new Honda Civic Type R. 🤤
Only a couple more days until my Type R gets delivered! So excited
Honda has secured six World Constructors’ Championships, six World Drivers’ Championships, and over 80 Grands Prix-ranking fifth in Formula One history. Additionally, their three Grand Prix wins (won by RedBull: Max Verstappen) as a team owner make them the only Japanese or Asian team to win in Formula One. So, Honda’s success in Formula One is a testament to their engineering prowess and dedication to motorsport excellence! And they make great handling cars with their F1 experiences: Honda NSX & Honda Civic Type R.
Yianni over here shifting gears with the drama like he's in Fast and Furious movies LOL
I'm impressed how well Yianni drove that civic!
Definitely the GR! Lovely and beastly
Awesome video to see FL5 vs Yaris, great close racing. 😁👍
ALL WHEEL DRIVE POWER YARIS IS REALLY GOOD
That price for the Civic is bananas.
For those wondering, £47,000 is equivalent to $58,500!!!
You do realise on the stock engine it can easily make 500 horsepower (GR Yaris)