Cheap RTR 'Comp' Crawler? Or Just a Poor GMade R1 Clone?
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- This Austar Rock Crawler Looks just like a Gmade R1, but how does it drive? The Price of this RC Crawler is pretty cheap, but you could get an FTX Mauler or RGT Rock Hammer for a little less. How does this compare, and is it an RTR Comp Crawler?
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I love my R1. Many years of hard use and still going strong. Once rolled head over heels for about 200m down a hill without any damage...
They do look nice 👍
Really, TRC, what you do is provide a public service. Pure professional. Quality overview
Thank you… appreciate it 😎👌
Considering that this is just a £150 RTR crawler Phil, this shows promise. A better servo should make a world of difference,as well as weighting the wheels.
Yes, has potential
I bought the Injora roller version of this rig, shocks tend to leak but have found they work well with just enough oil to lubricate them, put 2.2 alloy beadlocks on to add some weight. I used a 25kg servo but had to upgrade the plastic mount to a metal one as the original mount was flexing too much. I also used a Quicrun 1080 esc which I already had spare. Great little crawler if you don't mind spending a few quid on it. Great video, Cheers
Glad you done this one been looking at it for a while now figured I would change the axles to metal
No probs dude
Hi tomley its me Dylan I am heading to the hobbie shop here in SA soon 😊. I have saved enough money 💰
what ya going to buy
@@ac19513 well I really want to get a traxxas trx 4 sport or even the armor felony
@@dylanjay4497 two totally different ends of the spectrum of choice you have there.. Is there any other cars you like?
@@dylanjay4497 they are different, so..... buy both!
@@dylanjay4497 what did you end up getting buddy ? You mentioned two totally different ways of enjoying this hobby so just curious. Any new rc is a good day! Thats new or used!
Enjoy either way
Here in Australia, our power sockets are same layout as mainland China, no adaptors needed. But the USB plugs are very handy.
I actually just got the cage and panels, which is like $30 in BG or AliExpress, and I’m building to my liking with a few spare I had, these are great for a capable budget build.
Good video, I've been curious about this one for awhile. On paper it has everything, now that I see it perform, I might pick one up.
I bought that body for $35 on Amazon and installed Axial Transmission and suspension except the Shocks which are Desert Lizard by Yeah racing. My best crawler build ever.
Great job guys, really enjoyed the video, keep them coming.
I think this would be a wicked fun little project to put a better motor/ESC, servo, shocks and tires and it'd be one wicked little crawler 👍
Transmission and skid plate are scx10 copy. Transmitter/ receiver is a GoolRC model. And those servos are notoriously terrible.
Thanks for posting on this one cos not many people have. I like it in general and am going to get one! (I will try and use your link if there's one) ☺. Thanks for a whole bunch of helpful videos, hope the move is going well. Cheers from Weymouth.
Thanks for the review. Would you recommend the Danchee Ridgerock/FTX Ravine over this for a 10yr olds 1st Rock crawler?
Tough choice… I think this has potential, but the Ravine is decent straight out the box
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Pretty interesting truck, Tomley! 😃
It really runs nicely! Great review!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Cheers dude
The R1 has issues with needing weight for side hills etc as well awesome starter for the money definetly a clone worth getting if you want that sort of style
R1 looks good… I guess this is a cheap option as you say
Honestly, and I’m sure I’m not the only one, I would love to see a brand new RC company that isn’t really concerned about taking money from us but, giving us an affordable working decent vehicle RTR without having to immediately upgrade.
Yeah that would be good
Mate if that happens then I'd expect to see unicorns following soon after 🤣 I see a handful of companies really trying to grind out good little affordable rigs but most of the higher brand stuff is just money pit central ... the communitys for them too are very hit and miss with many in groups misleading new people into buying parts they don't even need 👀
@@maxbuckley9762 maybe you right, but there’s a few out there trying to hold there own .
I’ll support them on a few vehicles.
Had mine for 2 weeks. Broke the front shock tower. Need to put bracing to it. Shocks don't hold oil well, and very stiff with oil. Can actually run well without oil.
What’s up Tomley!?
Thanks for another video.
All good Carlo… 😎👌
cool little crawler and review
Thanks mate
A little update, my Injora is now running Axial scx axles and gearbox, shortie 5000mah lipo, metal beadlocks with Kanyon trail rubber, upgraded shocks and its just awesome
Happy to see you've got your hands on one of these 👏.
I've picked 1 up a few months ago and have been building this up to come close to a capra 🤣.
Things to look out for or upgrade -
Stock shocks are rubbish, 100mm shocks with 20mm travel 🤣, I've gone with 100mm shocks with dual springs.
The servo mount is weak and you can get an Aluminium one on Amazon or A express for less than 10€, comes with additional servo rod end.
25kg JX servo.
Front and rear drive shafts - add heat shrink or the pins will come loose from the spring and rip it apart.
Regrease the front and rear diffs.
Ive gone with 2.2 Beadlocks to add weight and you definitely have to upgrade the front cvd and rear axels with scx10 ii heavy duty ones - 6.99€ on A express (stock ones blew out in 10minutes after installing beadlocks 😂).
Metal Chubs will be the next mod as I want them stronger and adds more weight in the front.
Add Rim balancing weights under the steering bracket to get more weight.
Thinking of making a short vid for this but but for now I've posted some pics on insta if any1s interested in the build - 1tenthcrawler.
Love your vids and can't wait to see what's your next mods on this... 👍👍😎
And yes, definitely a 1080 hobby wing for the drag brake 🎉
What is your ig account?
I would love to see your car remodeled
I caved in and ordered one, BTW ordered a nice alloy servo mount to sort flex on steering
that frame with a capra axle will be a perfect match
Great video , thanks for the info. However i just checked price and it’s $200.99. I really would rather get something else in that price range. I cant believe the price went up $50.00 usd in a few hours of this video posting.
Hello Tomley RC ! This crawler is cool ! Excellent video ! 😀👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you
I gotta axial scx24 a few weeks back to try out a crawler and my eldest son loves it! Might have to get something a bit bigger soon
Awesome
I put the g made frame on my ft. Mauler and it's super
The ECX Temper Gen 2 crawler is probably better at the same price point ($150usd)
I'd probably prefer the "ftx ravine" aka the "danchee ridgerock". Seems just a little better out of the box.
Ridgerock with some cheap mods is a beast
If only it weren’t half the size lol
Definitely not bad for the basic price, it provides a decent starting point but I’m not sold on it. J’s been looking at it but like you said I think it’s too similar to the Capra in the sense that it doesn’t have a place in our fleet. Definitely seen worse though👀
Not a bad crawler, upgrades would make huge difference 👌👍👍😃
Good video RC buddy 👍
I saw these and was considering 1 as they're a cross between a scx10 with the gmade looking cage
Yes… I think with a bit of work, it’s not a bad option
You cN buy the chassis alone for 30 USD . Nylon blend of some sort .
Its actually not terrible for a scratch build or just a demo or product testing chassis. It is how ever not nearly the same as the gmade.
This looks pretty kool
That high pitched ringing is a deal breaker for me.
Red & Green should never be seen except on the body of an Irish queen.
Yayy Tomleydaayyy😂🥳🥳thank you for this nice review😇😎✌️
Thanks dude
I've been considering this for a while now, but the injora one. Exactly the same, as far as I can tell. They're pretty damn cheap if you get them as a kit.
The same here. But don't know if the costs of a cheap esc, transmitter and servo outweigh the cost of buying a rtr version and just upgrading the servo and servo mount.
Injora's stuff looks pretty good
@@D.C.Johnson i have some injora stuff on my Scx10 raw builders kit. Beadlocks and tires, front shocks and battery tray. Plus an injora jeep hardbody. Decent price and decent quality.
@@Br0rB yes their bodies look awesome. And once tuned their shocks are on point
That would make an awesome little project car 🤔🤔🤔
Yes 👍
On your esc setup with drag brake / no drag brake wen you set your esc you need to turn electronics off and then back on. The axial and quick run esc’s are same way
Having owned an R1, that looks like it handles about the same as the stock Gmade. I had to put some serious work into getting the suspension to flex freely, dropping it way down and putting high clearance links in it to keep some ground clearance. It then handles really well, partly because of the weight, which as you say, is an issue with this. Some weights in the tyres, and an upgraded servo would help, but what's the spares situation like for it? That's an awesome test ground for the crawlers. A little bit of everything. 👍🏻😉
I like the look of the R1… but not owning one I wasn’t sure if it was the same or not
@@TomleyRC the Gmade has a lot more too it, but looks wise, they're similar. The Gmade cage is all separate pieces with the body panels screwed to it, and appears to be much heavier. The tyres look bigger as well. 👍🏻
I've got off the grade r1 replicas bought it with no electronics, just swapped the motor out, got a esc and receiver, and some kings shocks, was a bit worries if something broke tho and not being able to get new parts but found out they run scx10 diffs and gearbox in them so was happy. Only thing I don't like is I can't get it to flex freely with 100mm kings shocks the chassi doesn't really twist to suit the flex
Have the same chassis running scx10ii drive trans and diy aluminum battery tray works great for the moment lol time will tell
Nice 👌
Same rig sold by Injora. Theirs isn’t rtr though. Within 5 hrs of owning one an axle shaft snapped at the hub. Swapped in scx10 axles and a driveshaft fell apart.
Luckily you can fix/upgrade 👍
Looks like an MG996 servo? I have one of those in one of our Austar/Injora SCX10 clones, it works ok. Slow but fairly strong. My experience with the Austar/Injora stuff has been very good. For the price I have no complaints at all, couple of very minor issues but they've been very reliable! Same as our WPL KMs 👍
These keep popping up on my recommended products, it could be a future investment. Maybe put some Traxxas tyres on with some metal wheels and a HW1060/1080...
I have the same transmitter for my scx10ii range rover classic. Cheap and works great. Don't see the need in spending £££ on fancy transmitters
Rgt 136100V3 Jimny needs a tomley review. I'm sure you'll love it. *cough* I have 2 🙂
Agreed 😎
Not to bad except that drag break issue definitely needs that
Red and green should never been seen... except on a Wednesday 😂😂😂
Haha
For the next test take it,the Ravine and the Capra out and run them over the same course on the Capra wheels and tyres 😃
doesn't look too bad to be fair and not a bad price bud 👍
Nice video! Those look a LOT like three piece AR44 (SCX10II) axles. 🤔
They are Injora looking axles, scx10ii case with scx10 gears inside
Does this injura have harden steel gears in the Portal and axles.... ? Can you do a vy
Nice tom, saya juga pengen unboxing dak riviewnya
What timing. I just was putting together the integy version of this chassis last night. Making a small buggy on 1.55 wheels and a 9" wheelbase
😎🤟
Have to be honest my Redcat Everest 10 is 40usd cheaper and can handle most anything. The throttle articulation and suspension travel are way better too. Honestly would love to see a review of it compared to other 10th scale none scale crawlers.
you can build a much better rig off this chasis though compared to the redcat. Redcat is great out of the box but with a little money in each, i would def take this chasis. get a droop set up and it can sit on its tires without rolling over
Would you measure the width of the axles , so we may know if we wanna upgrade to metal ...
What size bullet connector do they use on the furitek esc
If you fancy playing drop pen spings in the shocks for sem droop and you got a belly crawler will lower the cg :) lol
Sounds good 👌
Make a video how to tune oil shock would be nice
Which would be more fun this crawler or the Redcat Danshee. Danshee is cheaper but maybe it’s in another class being it’s got front & rear steering.
Il modello è molto bello esteticamente...rispecchia molto quelli da competizione...però fa poco twist...forse con un bella modifica tipo ammortizzatori...motore e qualche pesi sulle ruote diventa molto più performante... comunque bel video ....bel posto ... ciao Tomley... dall'Italia
The r1 has a lot of swing back and forth on the axles to the fame. How much does this crawler have?
Great one😎
It’d be interesting to see what a Hobbywing 1080 crawler ESC and better tires would do to help with this.
Yes… and a bit of weight
@@TomleyRC some Treal beadlocks might do the trick
Been looking at the Injora kit version for a while, without the wheels and only the motor. It's about 100 pounds. Would you recommend a kit version like that or the RTR and switch the servo and servo mount?
And thanks again for a great review. Nice way to wake up from a 7 day nightshift roster 😄
I’d probably go for a kit… gives you more options for upgrading
Amazon do the kit frame for £35
Nice to see the Injora running gear being used on a different setup, the Austar clone has helped alot of guys get into the hobby properly including myself so it's nice to see them mix it up with something new now
I have this crawler but I feel the wheel base is way to stretched or I need wider axles.
It heard you ask it to roll over lol. A stronger servo and some metal washers hot glued on the bottom will get goin huh. I bet it loves the mud!!!!
Did you planed a 2 video vor the brushless mario?
I call these type of vehicles Rock Bouncers but who cares Rock Crawler all the same I guess
I'd hate to buy something I immediately would have to work on and replace the servo etc Especially a RTR Thanks for the review mate ✌️
Thanks mate 👍
Yhat oud noise sounds more like an air compressor cycling on. Pretty typical in that style of commercial space
In all fairness the axles are made of playdough but it looks cool. I broke the front axle within 3 minutes.
Its not vile, seems okay for price point but like you say maybe the new RGT version of the mauler would be a better rig
Yes, the new RGT is awesome
Nice video
Video.... Thanks
Great video, serious question. Were you the kid on the tootsie pop commercial asking the owl how many licks to the center?
I don’t remember that advert… but that’s not saying I wasn’t 😅
Take a look at the 1/5 ghost rabbit gr1.... Electric ,. Nice rc on AliExpress
the throttle reminds me of rtr FTX outback 2, the modulation is in your finger and not in the car
It is not a rocket science to make this cheaper clone an excellent rig. I've made mine 4WS with couple of Injora front metal axles, proper 25 kg metal servos, 3648 outrunner brushless motor , 80A ESC and Turbo Racing TX + RX and 2.2 In. brass rims and 135 mm supa soft tires....I doubt it if the Gmade R1 is that good 🙂
What scale it is? Kinda smaller than actual Gmade, but i could be wrong. Almost buy it before i choose RGT Pioneer, glad i didnt...
I think it’s ‘meant’ to be 1/10… but yeah, a little small
I guess it's not totally disappointing for the money, is roughly what you're saying.
Heh, kind of unlike the £250 Carisma SCA-1E Range Rover I just received. I can't deny it looks proper R-R-ish, until you get really up close, so that's a plus. But the steering and shocks are truly shockin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Turning circle is worse than the worst ever full size Land Rover, and the shocks stick, even the one front one that dosen't stick all the time. If I manually work it up and down for a bit, they all work, but one front one soon goes back to sticking halfway down.
My mum likes the Carisma though, she's 94 with dementia, and doesn't always know me. But she was well amused to see a Range Rover driving around the living room! 😁
I’ve not tried a Carisma… might have to get one in for a closer look
@@TomleyRC I reckon they relied on the licensed R-R body to sell this one!
can i still get 1 of these in the uk/where?
Doesn't Injora make one like this too?
Hey ,funny you should be showing clones,🤔, I just brought fs racing reely freeman, apparently an axail scx 10 clone, and its awesome,,had to put heaiver oil shocks ,take panhard bar off as it 4 link suspension, but apart from that she lovely,, have a little look at erm bro, 🤔😁👍
You should fix those shocks
how the hell did I miss this video I bought just a body and frame
You ever done a trailfinder 2 review I've got one and 4 the money I haven't been happy it stands me at a £950 ISH
This is considered on the expensive side in Romania 😅
How much would these companies have to pay an English interpreter to look over what’s on the box and manual? Hell you could do it. One R/C car for one look through a Manual and box. Send in the changes and everyone wins. And maybe a real speed test! Lol it’s worth a try.
Yes, I’m sure someone could make a good business from offering that
which one is better r1 rock bugy or rgt 18100 rock trample
Trample would be my choice
Dont put oil in the shocks nd it will performe
Just buy a roller nd put in your own servo nd motor/esc
Try it with no oil in the shocks, may be better??
Yeah possibly
@@TomleyRC I'd love to see a video on the difference between the overall drivability.
Sounds like the steering servo is 3V.. SOOO SLOW
Yes… needs an upgrade
Eyup phil its £148.99 now
Not a bad price 😎
@@TomleyRC its gone up again 150 now lol
it's an axial scx10 ll parts
gave a like for the comment "21st century sockets."
I appreciate they add most of the metal hops you would likely order eventually but realistically I think with the offerings that are out there at the moment - wpl / MN / rgt / ftx there is much better options - ftx Kenyon is £160 new and you can find them with upgrades second hand for less