I like the way you kept calling the trx4 " the original ", I think its a shame taxxas is being like they are but I guess they want to protect their products ," the origina"l keeps you out of trouble and not cut off by traxxas , keep up the great videos, I love them
I've had my trx4 sport and regular trx4 g500. I've never had the trans apart or the rear axles. Also, the divets are made like that. Even the axles they sell are built like that. I just punch the hole on through.
Those divits on that shaft are machined in you could never tighten that driveshaft enough to put those in there no matter how soft the metal is! FYI i have an ebay scx10.2 clone made by austar $125 with those same tires and stays right with my axial scx10.2. Been running it for over 2yrs now and nothing has broken. The only thing i did to it was a holmes 13t crawlmaster motor and brass weights in the front wheels its a good truck for the money
I have 3 scx10 clones I use as part doners for weird concept builds like a full 3d printed chassis and a tonka truck build. I'm happy with them so far. If I find a deal on this one I'll give it a try too
I’ve ran the axial copied one for three years. the axles suck diffs are soft metal ..(even worse than the Gmade pot metal diffs on the gs01 .if you’ve got a heavy rig don’t bother with gs01 axles ) so got swapped for some spare ar44’s the rest hasn’t had any problems .makes a great trail truck has done for the last three years without any more breakages than my axial crawlers
I bought a highly rated clone axial for my kid and was pretty impressed until she drove it twice, it has been nothing but trouble since. I'll pay extra to have my truck keep running when I'm deep in a trail. Traxxas makes a good quality product.
The quality of a axial clone is bad. This one however seems to be pretty great. But then again, the traxxas design is much tougher overall to begin with.
I got the axial clone. The only problem is the axle. Change it to a better axle and now its pretty good. Rolled 10m from a steep hill and the front tyre rod mount just got bent.. nothing else break
Depends on what you are buying. Austar makes a TRX4m clone that is much cheaper and better than the TRX4m. If you want quality research is as important as dollars.
I've had a TRX-4 sport for a number of years and drive it hard. I've not had a single problem with it. I would take a used TRX-4 over this clone every time. But I'm interested to see how tough it is considering the price.
Nice budget rig for someone wanting to get into crawlers. Thanks for going over the clone in such detail. Great job as always. Cant wait to see you out on your track again. It's awesome! 👍👍
Now all clones are just as good and some are better I know I have a couple fo example I have the cloned Tamiya Bruiser frome like 1984 or 85 and they were around $800 in the 80s anyway as soon as I saw a clone called HGP 407 it looks so much like it you can only think they used the same dies to make the metal axles and it's got a all metal 3 gear transmission it's leaf sprung just like original and it was rtr for $200.00 and in 1985 it was so advanced I guess they wanted certain people could have it that's alot of money!!!!
I really don't know as much about RC's as I have only been at it for 2 years now. I wish I had started sooner but many of the cars are out of my reach price wise. Still I have fun with what I have. When it comes to RC clones I think your absolutely right about their value and performance. It's hit and miss. Tamiya brand RC's really hold their value from what I can tell. @@thebigsho665
Regarding the clone, overall, they did do an extremely good job. Obviously, the plastic gears will be a problem...but, other than that, pretty darn close. Here's an 'interesting' question. Briefly referencing what happened a couple weeks ago (enough has been said about it that it doesn't need to be outright stated)...moving forward, is everyone (with the exception of those who have a strong 'connection' to the company, ex. MSM) going to be 'afraid' to even say the word "Traxxas" in their videos?
says in the product listing thats its a chassis for the trx4 so that tells me that they look at this as a upgrade and you drop your body on. dunno. i might have to snag one and build a trx4
Have had my original defender for about 6 years now bought one of the first to oahu hawaii and have had 0 issues nd I beat on it good even my shift nd lockout servos are still going strong last month just replaced the steering servo for a better waterproofed one and put a Holmes hobby 21t brushed motor and hobby wing 1080 best truck on the market imo gonna put on my brass front portals today it’s been so much fun with this truck cannot recommend enough has been everywhere I have trailfinders scx10s the whole 9 always go back to my trx for some killah rock action cheeeehoooo
Oh boy this is awesome ! The only difference is the time of day these come out of the same CHINA factory. 6:30 am - lunchtime =trashass. After lunch until end of shift clone model. Let’s Go Trashass. Let’s Go Trashass. 😂😂😂😂
I like how you went through this whole video without mentioning the “T” word, we all know who you meant, but given todays itchy litigators you did a real job showing us the real v fake. You get what you pay for nowadays, and if you are hard on our trucks, buy the original
Have you checked out their TRX4m clone? Yup they cloned that too. It’s the AUSTAR AX-8560. It’s actually an impressive little crawler especially for the price
@@ExocagedRC you should! I’ve done a few Trx4m upgrades to mine. Not all parts fit but most do. And the truck is only about 70 bucks! Check out O brothers rc hes done 2 or 3 in depth vids about it. Love your channel dude! I’m Always watching your stuff
it all comes to the money you pay at first . no matter what there are the standard upgrades such as servos, motor , esc , tires ,etc , etc , so it dont really matter what brand it is all long as it works . i got rid of all my rc''s and just keep my savage its 20 years old and dont break the only thing new is a powerhobby $30 servo
@@shaynejenkins446 I highly doubt that Traxxas is just giving away their tooling to some random factory. Most likely someone just reverse engineered a TRX-4 and made tooling for it, this has happened before with other infamous clones (WL toys Twin hammer, Rovan Baja, Remo hobby, and Tamiya TL-01 clones to name a few)
Traxxas is one of those companies that really deserve a cheap knock-off 😂 Soon they will have law suits all over the place and no budget for anything else
I can see the obvious savings, but the $350 basic TRX4 Sport started my journey 4 years ago and after discovering how tough, reliable, and factory-supported they are after purchase I recently sprung for a High Trail with all the bells and whistles. IMO the $300 saved on this clone cannot match the proven record and factory support afforded by Traxxas.
They do not support the community just their wallets. Its entry grade at best. Go to any crawler comp or racing, and you will not see traxass being used.
@@shaynejenkins446 Competition and racing are the realms of fanatics and their Frankensteins. Go to a NASCAR race and you won't see a single mass-produced Ford, Chevy, or Dodge competing. But everyone spectating will be driving home in one.
I’d bet money on the fact that these came out of the same Chinese factory. The only reason that Trashas hasn’t shut these down, is that they’d lose their manufacturer.
I've ordered those ebay metal driveshafts on a 4 WD solid axle basher once. You'd think they're tough given they're metal but they break where it pivots or where the pin is. Better off with plastic driveshafts honestly. Also while I like a deal as much as the next guy, intellectual property theft isn't cool. Choose accordingly folks.
$220! Definitely better than anything Trx😁 Especially NOW since traxxas is in DEEEEP. Thing about a clone, as long as 99% or more is an exact copy, no copyright infringement lawsuits will come. I wouldn't ever spend $500 on a name brand, WHEN I can buy a cline for 1/4- 1/2 the price!🤷♂️🤪
Traxxas will have hired killers out looking for the maker of that clone!
lol hahaha
I like the way you kept calling the trx4 " the original ", I think its a shame taxxas is being like they are but I guess they want to protect their products ," the origina"l keeps you out of trouble and not cut off by traxxas , keep up the great videos, I love them
I've had my trx4 sport and regular trx4 g500. I've never had the trans apart or the rear axles. Also, the divets are made like that. Even the axles they sell are built like that. I just punch the hole on through.
Those divits on that shaft are machined in you could never tighten that driveshaft enough to put those in there no matter how soft the metal is! FYI i have an ebay scx10.2 clone made by austar $125 with those same tires and stays right with my axial scx10.2. Been running it for over 2yrs now and nothing has broken. The only thing i did to it was a holmes 13t crawlmaster motor and brass weights in the front wheels its a good truck for the money
I have 3 scx10 clones I use as part doners for weird concept builds like a full 3d printed chassis and a tonka truck build. I'm happy with them so far. If I find a deal on this one I'll give it a try too
I’ve ran the axial copied one for three years. the axles suck diffs are soft metal ..(even worse than the Gmade pot metal diffs on the gs01 .if you’ve got a heavy rig don’t bother with gs01 axles ) so got swapped for some spare ar44’s the rest hasn’t had any problems .makes a great trail truck has done for the last three years without any more breakages than my axial crawlers
I bought a highly rated clone axial for my kid and was pretty impressed until she drove it twice, it has been nothing but trouble since. I'll pay extra to have my truck keep running when I'm deep in a trail. Traxxas makes a good quality product.
The quality of a axial clone is bad. This one however seems to be pretty great. But then again, the traxxas design is much tougher overall to begin with.
I got the axial clone. The only problem is the axle. Change it to a better axle and now its pretty good. Rolled 10m from a steep hill and the front tyre rod mount just got bent.. nothing else break
Depends on what you are buying. Austar makes a TRX4m clone that is much cheaper and better than the TRX4m. If you want quality research is as important as dollars.
When you make enough aftermarket parts for a specific platform, you'll be able to just bolt them together after a while and have your self made rig.
Vanquish
a good option for those who have a low budget, although for the price, I would lean more towards an axial scx2 kit
For sure! Axial kit is a beast!
I can't wait to see what you put it through on the rocks. 👍🏼
I've had a TRX-4 sport for a number of years and drive it hard. I've not had a single problem with it. I would take a used TRX-4 over this clone every time. But I'm interested to see how tough it is considering the price.
Great content man, you were born to do this. Love your passion and enthusiasm for RC, your delivery is entertaining too!
thank you
Nice budget rig for someone wanting to get into crawlers. Thanks for going over the clone in such detail. Great job as always. Cant wait to see you out on your track again. It's awesome! 👍👍
Now all clones are just as good and some are better I know I have a couple fo example I have the cloned Tamiya Bruiser frome like 1984 or 85 and they were around $800 in the 80s anyway as soon as I saw a clone called HGP 407 it looks so much like it you can only think they used the same dies to make the metal axles and it's got a all metal 3 gear transmission it's leaf sprung just like original and it was rtr for $200.00 and in 1985 it was so advanced I guess they wanted certain people could have it that's alot of money!!!!
I really don't know as much about RC's as I have only been at it for 2 years now. I wish I had started sooner but many of the cars are out of my reach price wise. Still I have fun with what I have. When it comes to RC clones I think your absolutely right about their value and performance. It's hit and miss. Tamiya brand RC's really hold their value from what I can tell. @@thebigsho665
We got in Europe a Axial SCX ll clone called Reely Free Men, its half the price but the drivetrain is realy close to the orginal even in durability.
Regarding the clone, overall, they did do an extremely good job. Obviously, the plastic gears will be a problem...but, other than that, pretty darn close.
Here's an 'interesting' question. Briefly referencing what happened a couple weeks ago (enough has been said about it that it doesn't need to be outright stated)...moving forward, is everyone (with the exception of those who have a strong 'connection' to the company, ex. MSM) going to be 'afraid' to even say the word "Traxxas" in their videos?
Hi sir. Did you recommend this chassis or hb r1001.
I got now the 6x6 version ,thats a new level of Scale Truck with the scale Defender shell!
Very nice comparison and break down video. Looking forward to the running video, a new servo! Never too many servos on the market!!!!
I wonder how many parts are actually interchangeable? If I break something on the clone can I just replace with the original 🤔
says in the product listing thats its a chassis for the trx4 so that tells me that they look at this as a upgrade and you drop your body on. dunno. i might have to snag one and build a trx4
Hello. Can you tell me where I can download the instructions? If you have it in stock, you can send it by mail. photos or scan?
It would be awesome if they also do a sport version. I have all the servos and remote locking stuff on my Summit and feel it is unnecessary in these
Austar is a great company in my experience. I would buy one of these.
The clone might get sued by Traxxas. Lol.
Let's see if the Traxxas law hawks can snipe this one... They've been on a warpath lately. Maybe this is what sparked it.
Hello, how many channels do I need to drive this crawler? thank you
does the clone drivshafts rub like the OG?
Have you tried heat shrink over the spiral locks
Years ago I did. The rocks just chewed it up
@@ExocagedRC did you try the marina heat shrink with the adhesive on the inside
well, considering who makes the original and all they've done for the hobby over the years... i'll support the clone all day every day :)
Wait till you see the brushless drive. Probably tomorrow on that one…
Have had my original defender for about 6 years now bought one of the first to oahu hawaii and have had 0 issues nd I beat on it good even my shift nd lockout servos are still going strong last month just replaced the steering servo for a better waterproofed one and put a Holmes hobby 21t brushed motor and hobby wing 1080 best truck on the market imo gonna put on my brass front portals today it’s been so much fun with this truck cannot recommend enough has been everywhere I have trailfinders scx10s the whole 9 always go back to my trx for some killah rock action cheeeehoooo
Trial running Is what you meant. Nobody is "crawling" with a trx4, unless it has the mods that Traxass does not want you to have.
@@shaynejenkins446 i've done lots of crawling with my trx4 defender. that is unless clibing steep technical rocky hillsides is a 'trail'
Great video! I have been really curious about this exact comparison.
Nice comparison video 👍
They made an RTR version already with a Cherokee body
Clone parted into an Injora LCG!?!? Could be fun..not to mention inexpensive..
This is $150 on aliexpress
Seems like a deal gotta see how durable it will be
Can you make a video of putting the original body off Traxxas.. an original parts let's see weather it fits
Oh and great video as always, thanks!!
Oh boy this is awesome ! The only difference is the time of day these come out of the same CHINA factory. 6:30 am - lunchtime =trashass. After lunch until end of shift clone model. Let’s Go Trashass. Let’s Go Trashass. 😂😂😂😂
Traxxas is made in Taiwan or so they say.
I like how you went through this whole video without mentioning the “T” word, we all know who you meant, but given todays itchy litigators you did a real job showing us the real v fake. You get what you pay for nowadays, and if you are hard on our trucks, buy the original
Can we install brass on the clone axle?
Yep sure can
@@ExocagedRC All right thanks bro👍👍👍
I imagine T brand will come after them for this
I'm finally going to get one of those 👌
May I know how long the panhard of the clone is?
I have never measured that and that truck is out in the shed. LoL it should be the same as any trx
Have you checked out their TRX4m clone? Yup they cloned that too. It’s the AUSTAR AX-8560. It’s actually an impressive little crawler especially for the price
I have not, maybe I should
@@ExocagedRC you should! I’ve done a few Trx4m upgrades to mine. Not all parts fit but most do. And the truck is only about 70 bucks! Check out O brothers rc hes done 2 or 3 in depth vids about it.
Love your channel dude! I’m Always watching your stuff
@@ExocagedRC you should! It’s actually a great little truck. So cheap too
Someone is getting sued
Looks little more simplistic and plane
Sir, there is a message that doesn't have a portal, maybe you can try it and upload it to your UA-cam😅
The whole RC world scared to say the T word😂
it all comes to the money you pay at first . no matter what there are the standard upgrades such as servos, motor , esc , tires ,etc , etc , so it dont really matter what brand it is all long as it works . i got rid of all my rc''s and just keep my savage its 20 years old and dont break the only thing new is a powerhobby $30 servo
Dang only 230 for all that imma need one of those.
Great video.
Had to be cautious.. got the tape covering the brand name on the original.
TRX4?
So what! Chevy, Dodge, Ford.. are they cloning after each other ?
Great video 👍🏾
Talk about the divits 3 times in a row? Lol. 3 different takes I guess. Needed one of those big breaths prior.
Как насчет надёжности, долговечности и люфтов в этой модели?
Great video! Really appreciate seeing all the actual differences. I'd still bite the bullet and get the one from the sue-happy company
Traxxas gonna have you on there make him disappear list they have made some disappear. 😅
Still, I don’t know what brand and type of vehicle is original and what is brand and type of the cloned car. Confusing.
Traxxas is the original one and injora i think it’s the clone
This is probably the same place Traxxas gets their parts made
0% chance, Traxxas cars are manufactured in Taiwan and this clone is made in China.
@@bashslash0972 Same tooling dude. They get it from them not us.
@@shaynejenkins446 I highly doubt that Traxxas is just giving away their tooling to some random factory. Most likely someone just reverse engineered a TRX-4 and made tooling for it, this has happened before with other infamous clones (WL toys Twin hammer, Rovan Baja, Remo hobby, and Tamiya TL-01 clones to name a few)
@@bashslash0972for real? Look Honda then look at the motors at harbor fright
Wow this company is genuinely poking the bear 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Traxxas is one of those companies that really deserve a cheap knock-off 😂 Soon they will have law suits all over the place and no budget for anything else
Put heat shrink over the spiral locks on the driveshafts. Helps a lot
The Traxass rod ends are one of the few things that nobody seems to equal ( not counting rpm). One of my go to parts for any custom build
Traxxas is super solid. Clones i dont think so.
They clone also the 6x6!
I see, its in my cart
@@ExocagedRC Coool! You will be first on You tube testdrive it!
Excited to see this tested. Be nice to see a better affordable overdrive transmission available.
I can see the obvious savings, but the $350 basic TRX4 Sport started my journey 4 years ago and after discovering how tough, reliable, and factory-supported they are after purchase I recently sprung for a High Trail with all the bells and whistles. IMO the $300 saved on this clone cannot match the proven record and factory support afforded by Traxxas.
They do not support the community just their wallets. Its entry grade at best. Go to any crawler comp or racing, and you will not see traxass being used.
@@shaynejenkins446 Competition and racing are the realms of fanatics and their Frankensteins. Go to a NASCAR race and you won't see a single mass-produced Ford, Chevy, or Dodge competing. But everyone spectating will be driving home in one.
You trying to get the company that made that clone sued ?
I’d bet money on the fact that these came out of the same Chinese factory. The only reason that Trashas hasn’t shut these down, is that they’d lose their manufacturer.
Traxxas is made in Taiwan
@@Luke-en2tk huge difference lol
Nice option for people who like the platform but don't want to support the "T'" company.
Who is this Traxxas ?
Shhhh... 😂
Haha Wondered why the title was so clickbaity, then realised why you couldn't say what had been ripped off haha
I've ordered those ebay metal driveshafts on a 4 WD solid axle basher once. You'd think they're tough given they're metal but they break where it pivots or where the pin is. Better off with plastic driveshafts honestly. Also while I like a deal as much as the next guy, intellectual property theft isn't cool. Choose accordingly folks.
$220! Definitely better than anything Trx😁
Especially NOW since traxxas is in DEEEEP.
Thing about a clone, as long as 99% or more is an exact copy, no copyright infringement lawsuits will come.
I wouldn't ever spend $500 on a name brand, WHEN I can buy a cline for 1/4- 1/2 the price!🤷♂️🤪
To think you already edited this!
If there are parts the same that have a patent on them then they can
@@Luke-en2tk Its China made good luck. Traxass only goes after American RC companies.
Lenth
Exo, go visit a barber 😜
LoL my barber is a mirror and sometimes the wife.
Trx4
A clone or outright theft of an intellectual property?
👍😁
Why would you be scared to say what it is..call it a Traxxas
He didn't need to.
Who is trashas suing over this??? All I wanna know.....
I see monkey metal
I'm sure its full of it
It a good Clone until you made this video brought to light. Now traxxas is going to a smash it just like they do everything
Well it is different in some ways.
Better call the traxxas police
I’m a clone
Aren't we all? there are at least 3 of me running around this planet
I am going to get it just to flip the bird to the cry baby company.
A clone would look exactly the same, ding dong.