hated project m love plystion all stars actually if brawl out has yooka laylee I played it I liked that game actually completely forgot about it now I’m still waiting to see if you mention the newest one I can’t even say anything about besides the pay to win part but it’s solid AF
Coney: "There is no bad platform fighter buuuuuuuuuuuuut this is bad, this is bad, didn't play these, won't play these. so of all the 3 platform fighters that exist i think they are all good"
As someone who has 200 hours in Brawlhalla and vaguely follow its competitive scene, I can a test that I have no idea how they can manage to score such absurd crossovers
@@ixzaluoh8997 thats the way I felt when learning the game, when you treat it as a "Smash substitute" you are gonna under value the game and not have a good time, but if you treat it as its own game and its own entity in the platform fighter space its becomes a lot more fun
As a UA-cam Frog, I would just like to say, my favorite part of these is the more tiers spam. Also I would love to see Coney reacting to twitter’s reaction to his lists after he posts them.
"And noooow it's their problem" But really, what the hell is with Brawlhalla? How can it keep that many players consistently? I'm with Coney thinking it's money laundering.
@@krowmoonlight Idk, I literally don't see the appeal of the game but it's still a bit suspicious they're holding consistent players for it's lifespan.
I'll say that as a filthy casual, I usually will play brawlhalla with my friends if we want to play platform fighters because it's free, can be played on our computers, and I generally enjoy the mechanics of it. I don't play against other people, so maybe it is mostly bots, but I also think it's possible there are at least a few players who don't want to spend money on a plat fighter who just play the game.
Idk I know a good amount of people personally that play the game a lot with each other and online. They have tried to get me into the game but didnt appeal to me. I can see though how people enjoy it enough to come back to it over and over again
@@Xanek it's free and easy to pick up, that's why it has a consistent player base. the appeal for me, is that it's the only platform fighter I'm genuinely good at, and how simple the fundamentals are. I still hate the game though
Haven't watched the video yet, but I'm gonna assume coney made a separate tier for basically every game Edit: can someone PLEASE teach coney how tier lists work
Just clicked on this video and his placement of Duck Game will decide the entire validity if his list (I forgot where he placed on when he tweeted this)
His placement for duck game is perfect. It's the perfect casual game. I think if I saw someone taking it seriously I'd have to transport them to a cabin in the woods.
I generally dont give a shit about people and their opinions, but saying "Hey people who like this thing you probably dont actually" is fucking NUCLEAR and I dunno why Coney would be surprised people would clown on him for if lol
@@heartnet40that's not even what was said, he just said a lot of the younger sonic fans never lived to understand how disappointing SA1 & 2 are because they weren't alive and that saying that dislike of those games was a "UA-camr psyop" is silly because the games aren't THAT good
you know, i've heard people in my real life *say* they play brawlhalla but i've never actually seen anybody play it or have it installed on their console. maybe it's just a mind virus with no gameplay
As someone who's always been an outsider peaking in for smash, project M was so fun. Xanadu PM is what got me into watching smash in the first place lmao
I met coney at a project M tournament, so it's the best game. Friend helped me carry a large TV into the venue from my car. He's a nice guy, but kinda short so carrying the tv was awkward
was not happy about that ssf2 placement, but coney redeemed himself with icons even now i still occasionally think about the times i landed xana’s grab counter, that game was hidden peak
I totally agree with the PM take. It was amazing blend of the Melee and Brawl communities that we haven't seen since. (Some bias because it was my first competitive Smash game. Waddle dashing was my first character specific tech. There's not been anyone like D3 since)
As a competitive Brawlhalla player, the game has a unique flavor to it that most people wouldn’t get It’s also just insanely fun to play with friends, especially if everyone can play the game at a decent level Also considering that it’s F2P, it’s also mad accessible It could just secretly be mid though idk
NASB2 makes me feel so conflicted because it gave birth to literally my favorite character in any fighting game ever, plankton, and yet i will probably never play it again
We are getting closer to the golden perfect line tier list. With an empty mystery tier we could even end up with a tier list that has more tiers than items on the list.
I know I'm taking the bait and being annoying, but Smash Flash 2 really is a good fangame. Old screenshots will of course look old, but current updates look and feel modern. The pixel art's top notch and the devs focus on quality over quantity. Online is admittedly barebones, but overall just a top 5 Smash fangame imo Also, tip. If anyone new wants to play the game, change the settings first. Set the controls, items, stage hazards, etc. and go to Training mode. So many UA-camrs just immediately jump into "Smash" mode with no prep and it gets messy
I probably would've put PS All Stars as "Missed Potential" personally. Like the game has some cool ideas & concepts, gameplay-wise is mainly where the game wasn't exactly the best executed.
I still think the gameplay is fun. There are some satisfying combos/kill confirms, good gameplay mechanics, and cool supers. But my main issue is that there is no hp bar which makes some games really drag and homogenizes how you kill an opponent. I do also think they could focus a bit more on the platforming/movement aspect of Platform Fighters but I really like how it feels more like a traditional fighting game than other platform fighters.
Project M was HUGELY popular in my friend group (nerds/stoners) when I was in highschool. We had a really cool physics teacher that would let us use the projector to run tournaments during lunch. They would take a week or so to complete but it was hype as hell to talk about throughout the week waiting for your next match
Ikr. I haven't played in a while, but I remember the game being a genuinely incredibly fun game. It's the ONLY good Flash Smash Clone. AND it has something similar to a workshop where you download other people's characters? Sign me up
Nah man, not brawlhalla on bottom tier, I played that game for 2 years straight before ultimate came out, it was hella fun, the game is super fast and you can do insane combos with the games mechanics
Brawlhalla is easy to explain. It's free, it's on every platform, and it copied basically every good monetization idea from Fortnite. They build a huge user base, get backed by a major publisher, and then offer promotional deals to get the crossovers. People talk about them getting stuff like SpongeBob or TMNT but forget each of those happened right around when one of the Nickelodeon All Stars games was launching.
pm 3.02 was unironically the whole #oneunit thing, it was such an amazing time seeing literally everyone come together to play, and the egregiously powerful top tiers only made things better slap city is sick as a less serious version of melee, but I can definitely see how the "melee mentality" could infect how people see it, ending up making it less fun for people who don't want to take it as seriously rushdown revolt is the pet game of one of those overenthusiastic fighting game video essay types who injects discussions of the psychology of fighting games seemingly into anything that they can but just has a lower level of competence regarding balance and game design and then happened to direct the development of a game brawlhalla isnt real, there actually no fucking way that that game is real, it makes a negative amount of sense smash 4 is the tom cruise of the series
@@abyssalnothingnessIt's more that the brawlhalla community is almost totally isolated from every other similar community so you genuinely never hear of people playing the game, y'all are like the fucking elusive Bigfoot clan of platform fighters
Sorry for anyone who hates this but I gotta say it. I do think brawlhala is weirdly getting so many crossovers however me and my roommate play duos every day and rarely if ever match into the same team I think the player base is strong as a casual game to play with a certain friend and I do think it’s as balanced as a fighting game I’ve ever played
6:37 Sorry, if you weren't there you'll just never know. This was not only a unique and once-in-a-lifetime experience, but simply the best competitive Smash scene and game of all time. There will never be anything else like it.
Coney: "I've played all of them"
Also Coney: Puts most of the games in "Haven't Played".
Coney’s try not to spread misinformation challenge (impossible)
Seems legit
In fairness most people have not played 50% of them. Who tf played BlindSight or Platform Fighter Engine?
All of them are good.
Also coney: lists 3/4s as bad
hated project m love plystion all stars actually if brawl out has yooka laylee I played it I liked that game actually completely forgot about it now I’m still waiting to see if you mention the newest one I can’t even say anything about besides the pay to win part but it’s solid AF
I love how Coney’s tier lists aren’t even tier lists but just an unordered synopsis of different games
Coney's -tier- lists*
That's the CONEY Experience™️ my friend
Coney: "There is no bad platform fighter
buuuuuuuuuuuuut
this is bad, this is bad, didn't play these, won't play these.
so of all the 3 platform fighters that exist i think they are all good"
As someone who has 200 hours in Brawlhalla and vaguely follow its competitive scene, I can a test that I have no idea how they can manage to score such absurd crossovers
It's not easy being a brawlhalla fan dude, I'm good at a game no one likes lmao
@@m3gatr0n28Same dude. I love it. It's so sad tbh.
Father Ubisoft strong arms
Got 160 and like it a lot recently when I learn the game
@@ixzaluoh8997 thats the way I felt when learning the game, when you treat it as a "Smash substitute" you are gonna under value the game and not have a good time, but if you treat it as its own game and its own entity in the platform fighter space its becomes a lot more fun
0:00 the fly after it lands on top of my burger
I'd slap the shit out of a fly if it started trying to talk about multiversus to me
This made me laugh harder than it should have.
As a UA-cam Frog, I would just like to say, my favorite part of these is the more tiers spam. Also I would love to see Coney reacting to twitter’s reaction to his lists after he posts them.
i really respect coney's opinions! he should totally talk about sonic adventure, im sure people would be very chill with that
I'm so excited to see him recount the fallout
"And noooow it's their problem"
But really, what the hell is with Brawlhalla? How can it keep that many players consistently?
I'm with Coney thinking it's money laundering.
its one of the few that decided to be a live service game and it worked
@@krowmoonlight Idk, I literally don't see the appeal of the game but it's still a bit suspicious they're holding consistent players for it's lifespan.
I'll say that as a filthy casual, I usually will play brawlhalla with my friends if we want to play platform fighters because it's free, can be played on our computers, and I generally enjoy the mechanics of it. I don't play against other people, so maybe it is mostly bots, but I also think it's possible there are at least a few players who don't want to spend money on a plat fighter who just play the game.
Idk I know a good amount of people personally that play the game a lot with each other and online. They have tried to get me into the game but didnt appeal to me. I can see though how people enjoy it enough to come back to it over and over again
@@Xanek it's free and easy to pick up, that's why it has a consistent player base. the appeal for me, is that it's the only platform fighter I'm genuinely good at, and how simple the fundamentals are. I still hate the game though
Haven't watched the video yet, but I'm gonna assume coney made a separate tier for basically every game
Edit: can someone PLEASE teach coney how tier lists work
I think his use of tiers is really funny and entertaining the ABCDF tiers are great and all but I love how descriptive it is
Just clicked on this video and his placement of Duck Game will decide the entire validity if his list (I forgot where he placed on when he tweeted this)
Acceptable.
I was very happy with it's inclusion
Oh it’s the wobbling but not really guy
@@110.12dc I’m not that Slug.
But I am from the same region which has led to a few times where people thought I was him based off my tag.
His placement for duck game is perfect. It's the perfect casual game. I think if I saw someone taking it seriously I'd have to transport them to a cabin in the woods.
0:14 "I played them all"
He has in fact, not played them all XD
honestly i like coneys tier lists because they just arnt even tier lists there just mini reviews for each entry
Now Coney has to play all those games in his "Haven't Played" Tier and make the list even more unwieldy.
You know it's somewhat interesting that the way coney uses teir lists is genuinely a much better way to communicate nuanced information.
Hey it's that guy who caused complete anarchy across Sonic twitter!
I generally dont give a shit about people and their opinions, but saying "Hey people who like this thing you probably dont actually" is fucking NUCLEAR and I dunno why Coney would be surprised people would clown on him for if lol
He's right, the SA games are awful
It doesnt seem that hard to do, all he did was say a popular game was bad.
@@heartnet40 Well is he wrong though?
@@heartnet40that's not even what was said, he just said a lot of the younger sonic fans never lived to understand how disappointing SA1 & 2 are because they weren't alive and that saying that dislike of those games was a "UA-camr psyop" is silly because the games aren't THAT good
Here before the Sonic stans attack Coney
I guess Coney's audience really is just kids if this is the top upvoted comment.
Not even on topic, random comment, some gen alpha brain rot.
@@ぐれの-v7q No the topic is that sonic fans are qrting him on twitter for having an opinion
Sonic fan here, I really don't care lmao he just made a few tweets ab a game he doesn't like
It’s ok. I forgive him for sucking at Sonic.
@@ぐれの-v7q go outside and take a walk buddy
Its crazy how he slept on flash 2 like that
I know it's such a great game and he judges without playing it😅
Watching Coney build this tier list on stream was like watching hitler build his army
buh
This is a comment of all time
Uhh
Talk your talk king 🗣️
Being a fan of Coney is like being a fan of Hitler before he built his army.
This was the nickelodeon all star brawl of coney tierlist videos
"im gonna go into witness protection" unknowing to the tsunami of sonic fans that got him trending on twitter
Could've called Nickelodeon Brawl "The Water of Life" to play off the Dune motif that it allows you to awaken your mind.
love coney gaining self awareness during this tier list
20:20 It’s so awesome seeing Coney is following Dokibird
True!
sm4sh is very "the lights are on but nobody is home"
coney tier lists aren't even tier lists after a certain point he just makes new tiers to describe the game so nothing is really said
that's the fun part
You counteract your own statement. Things are literally said on what he think of the game as a whole instead of generic list A.
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19:42 dying at coney’s reaction to the full thing
I lost it at the Mystery Tier
you know, i've heard people in my real life *say* they play brawlhalla but i've never actually seen anybody play it or have it installed on their console. maybe it's just a mind virus with no gameplay
Brawlhalla is peak bro
the mutliversus beta felt like a beta for a good game, and the multiversus official release feels like an alpha for a decent game
As someone who's always been an outsider peaking in for smash, project M was so fun. Xanadu PM is what got me into watching smash in the first place lmao
I met coney at a project M tournament, so it's the best game. Friend helped me carry a large TV into the venue from my car. He's a nice guy, but kinda short so carrying the tv was awkward
was not happy about that ssf2 placement, but coney redeemed himself with icons
even now i still occasionally think about the times i landed xana’s grab counter, that game was hidden peak
SSF2 is honestly a top 2 or 3 Smash clone
As a brawlhalla player who does not do in game purchases, I 100% agree it’s a money laundering scheme
Coney should make a tier list of his tier lists
5:36 NAH! NAH NAH NAH! All-Stars Battle Royal was SO much fun with friends
I totally agree with the PM take. It was amazing blend of the Melee and Brawl communities that we haven't seen since. (Some bias because it was my first competitive Smash game. Waddle dashing was my first character specific tech. There's not been anyone like D3 since)
i used to hate how coney did tiers but ive long since come to love it, especially when he makes it their problem.
"tier list chemo" is INSANE
As a competitive Brawlhalla player, the game has a unique flavor to it that most people wouldn’t get
It’s also just insanely fun to play with friends, especially if everyone can play the game at a decent level
Also considering that it’s F2P, it’s also mad accessible
It could just secretly be mid though idk
NASB2 makes me feel so conflicted because it gave birth to literally my favorite character in any fighting game ever, plankton, and yet i will probably never play it again
We are getting closer to the golden perfect line tier list. With an empty mystery tier we could even end up with a tier list that has more tiers than items on the list.
I know I'm taking the bait and being annoying, but Smash Flash 2 really is a good fangame. Old screenshots will of course look old, but current updates look and feel modern. The pixel art's top notch and the devs focus on quality over quantity. Online is admittedly barebones, but overall just a top 5 Smash fangame imo
Also, tip. If anyone new wants to play the game, change the settings first. Set the controls, items, stage hazards, etc. and go to Training mode. So many UA-camrs just immediately jump into "Smash" mode with no prep and it gets messy
I know he did ssf2 dirty
I probably would've put PS All Stars as "Missed Potential" personally. Like the game has some cool ideas & concepts, gameplay-wise is mainly where the game wasn't exactly the best executed.
I still think the gameplay is fun. There are some satisfying combos/kill confirms, good gameplay mechanics, and cool supers. But my main issue is that there is no hp bar which makes some games really drag and homogenizes how you kill an opponent. I do also think they could focus a bit more on the platforming/movement aspect of Platform Fighters but I really like how it feels more like a traditional fighting game than other platform fighters.
duck game is so goated and im glad its being recognized as a platform fighter
NASB1 literally made a change in my mindset, since I played it, platform fighters never felt the same to me.
NASB2 straight up injected crack into my bloodstream
Fundamentally misunderstands the point of a tier list.
10/10
Project M was HUGELY popular in my friend group (nerds/stoners) when I was in highschool. We had a really cool physics teacher that would let us use the projector to run tournaments during lunch. They would take a week or so to complete but it was hype as hell to talk about throughout the week waiting for your next match
I like how coneys tier lists just become categorising games
I feel SSF2 has improved quite a lot from when most people played it tbf
Ikr. I haven't played in a while, but I remember the game being a genuinely incredibly fun game. It's the ONLY good Flash Smash Clone. AND it has something similar to a workshop where you download other people's characters? Sign me up
Coney did not just disrespect the goat Smash Flash 2
I have never not wanted to watch a video more by a thumbnail than seeing this one with brawlhalla at the bottom
Nah man, not brawlhalla on bottom tier, I played that game for 2 years straight before ultimate came out, it was hella fun, the game is super fast and you can do insane combos with the games mechanics
Brawlhalla is easy to explain. It's free, it's on every platform, and it copied basically every good monetization idea from Fortnite. They build a huge user base, get backed by a major publisher, and then offer promotional deals to get the crossovers. People talk about them getting stuff like SpongeBob or TMNT but forget each of those happened right around when one of the Nickelodeon All Stars games was launching.
This isn't a tier list anymore this is just a list
No Smash Flash 2? Brawlhalla Slander? No Super Smash Bros. Crusade? Not a valid list
what the fuck is Super Smash Bros. Crusade
If I told that to a caveman he would charge at me and knock me out with a club
@@HiImAidenfan game! Idk if Nintendo took it down?
@@1mrcow143 last time I heard of it it was still up I think
@@1mrcow143It's still up
I’m starting to think coney doesn’t know how tier lists are supposed to work
brawlhalla has a huge community and skill ceiling.. not sure why ppl think that game is bad or not popular lol
I love how every other game has its own teir.
Almost entirely incomprehensible.
5:15 anyone know what song is playing in the background? (it goes so hard)
God your voice needs to rest
Respect SSF2 grandpa!!
i have 2000 hours in brawlhalla, they locked me in a room and told me i could see my family again if i played enough
pm 3.02 was unironically the whole #oneunit thing, it was such an amazing time seeing literally everyone come together to play, and the egregiously powerful top tiers only made things better
slap city is sick as a less serious version of melee, but I can definitely see how the "melee mentality" could infect how people see it, ending up making it less fun for people who don't want to take it as seriously
rushdown revolt is the pet game of one of those overenthusiastic fighting game video essay types who injects discussions of the psychology of fighting games seemingly into anything that they can but just has a lower level of competence regarding balance and game design and then happened to direct the development of a game
brawlhalla isnt real, there actually no fucking way that that game is real, it makes a negative amount of sense
smash 4 is the tom cruise of the series
this really is the logical conclusion of the Coney tier list
This is either the top or bottom tier of the "Coney Tier List" tier list (every list is in their own separate tier)
Shoulda left Melee in weird guy's favourite game. Just cos they fostered a whole community of weird guys don't make it untrue.
The tier lists get significantly worse every single time Coney makes a new one, and I’m all for it
I love coney tier lists because they're just ordered lists. There are more than 15 tiers, and most of them only have 1 game
Coney had 1 hour to make any edits (a.k.a end the monster) but he didn't, he's a real one
He went to witness protection but for the Sonic tweets lmaoo
This is egregious even for Coney's tier lists.
Icons looks more playable than Multiversus. You sold me.
Coney getting cooked more for the sonic take rather than this tier list is pretty funny to me
God I miss 2014 Project M. It was life, being in Sweden staying up late watching tourneys and what not.
I like how there's a tier for games he hasn't played enough, and still puts PS All Stars (which he hasn't played enough) in a different tier lol
Brawlhalla is proof of the dead internet theory.; there's no way ten thousand people enjoy that game on a daily basis, I refuse to believe it
Me when people have different opinions from me:
@@abyssalnothingness me when internet goblins dont understand jokes:
nah I just like this game, I get the joke but it's dunkin' on what I like
@@WhyYouWahYooI like Brawlhalla. It’s just a different community than smash
@@abyssalnothingnessIt's more that the brawlhalla community is almost totally isolated from every other similar community so you genuinely never hear of people playing the game, y'all are like the fucking elusive Bigfoot clan of platform fighters
prepare for Tuesday. The war begins.
Slap City mentioned, that's all I needed
1:31 yeah this is somethin
1:40 he did supposedly die but not really now
3:11 it is kinda meh
3:34 cmooon smash flash is cool
3:48 great
7:21 duck game’s awesome yea
7:53 lol
8:43 how is multiversus that hugh
9:01 huh
He really woke up and chose violence that day.
Jokes aside, his opinions are valid, but there certainly some hot takes here.
woah woah woah brawlhalla being a smash clone???
as someone who plays brawlhalla, the game is literally cancer
Sorry for anyone who hates this but I gotta say it. I do think brawlhala is weirdly getting so many crossovers however me and my roommate play duos every day and rarely if ever match into the same team I think the player base is strong as a casual game to play with a certain friend and I do think it’s as balanced as a fighting game I’ve ever played
my prediction is that multiversus will not survive to see next summer
Duck game getting the respect it deserves
No way Coney hasn’t (will not) played SSf2, that game was my schools version of a blood sport.
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6:37 Sorry, if you weren't there you'll just never know. This was not only a unique and once-in-a-lifetime experience, but simply the best competitive Smash scene and game of all time. There will never be anything else like it.
Im just waiting for the day we can call these games platform fighters and not smash clones they deserve respect
These are always funny but this one was exceptional
The only memory most people have of Slap City is when Plup beat that 1 Slap City pro who was like top 10 in the world
Brawhalla dont deserve such hate. Thchiss
10:43 that's brawl out
Knowing he plays league makes me want to see a Coney X SirActionSlacks Collab video, they'd vibe with each other lol
Icons is to the FGC as Batman is to Gotham City 💀
you need a prima strategy guide to navigate this tier list
They're all just street fighter clones since smash itself is just a street fighter clone
ssf2 was done DIRTY
Im just here to read the comments and listen to coney talk about things he knows and nothing else.
god we are lucky CONEY didnt play all the games, the tier list wouldve been like 50 more tiers