@@yotatrd5.758 lol our GVM and GCM laws here in Australia will need a massive update they way they are ATM we cant even max out a Ram 3500 the max GCM in Australia is 9000kg (19,841 lb) to max it our you would need to get it classed as a semi truck and get a semi license.
Phalanx 380 in austria you cant even register such trucks maximum is 3500kg for car an Trailer combined. So technically even a heavy car such as a rolls Royce must be registered as a semi truck.....
I love these trucks! They are a fantastic option for those who can afford them and need a dedicated towing beast! Great review and showcase as always. I also love having a pickup truck bed for those trips to the hardware and feed store when not towing.
This truck plus a big enough trailer to justify it, may as well get a class A. The only time this would make sense is in the case of an actual Class 8 (which of course this is nowhere near) that an owner operator trucker already has. That's pretty niche.
Its a normal tractor with a bed. Only differance is a 9 liter engine. Id by an old tractor without emmisions and convert it. With a fifthwheel attachment as needed for trailer.
...That is an aftermarket add-on you can put on any vehicle.. (hence the reason for the trunk button...) looks like a DEI remote to me. The kit is prob $35 retail but if you buy this truck, you get it for $1198.75. All that said.. Nice truck!!
It's actually very uncommon as far as I know to have a fob for a medium or heavy duty truck unless it's a ford or gmc or something and idk if even those come with fobs I haven't had any of them, but it is a pretty half ass aftermarket fob for 162k.
As a truck driver who is currently sitting in a Kenworth T680 with a 455hp/1850 ft-lb 13 liter MX series engine and a 16-speed Eaton Fuller Ultrashift Plus with 3.55 rear axles.. This is a damn nice truck too. I'd buy one if I had the cash.
I'll take my truck without the garbage auto... Current haul pig is a freightliner 122sd dd13 Detroit 505hp 1850tq 18speed Eaton with 3.91 rears with full lockers, regularly pulling over 100,000lbs
Love TFL series. Many great reviews of vehicles (like this Freightliner) that I would never own, but find very interesting and watch just for fun. Glad they review them.
It's the same body style from 2003. You can easily find a used, pre-emssion, low mile m2 cheap. Anybody who'd spend 160k on this has more money than sense.
@@josenoyola9851 beg to differ, the hot shot guys using the one ton trucks make very good money and truthfully if I was going to do that I would buy one of these used instead of a one ton since you can find these on the second hand market for fairly reasonable.
not really, the leather seats, the chrome, the wood trim, the bus tires, the polished Alcoas, the tire balancers, the custom bed, the custom paint job, the voyager camera system, the air-ride GN/5W hitch, are all custom add-ons from the custom shop. Sure, you can buy a new M2 crew cab, but it's gonna have none of the features this truck has, you'll get a basic work truck that you'll have to build up yourself.
Manual regen switch ONLY works with the parking brake applied and sitting still. Usually takes 15-30 minutes. While you're rolling, the regen can happen automatically.
We’ve got a Peterbilt 335 4 door all black. With the same flatbed. It’s a Cummins ISX that’s been deleted. We use it to pull our 49 ft horse trailer. We absolutely love it. We had bought a Freightliner exactly like that on but it couldn’t handle the trailer but it had a mersadies Benz engine.
For the cost it needs a better dashboard. I believe Navistar's started using the past generation GM truck dashboards and steering wheels with the push-button controls. Put a sunroof in. Make the map screen a whole lot bigger!
Growing up we had a kodiak truck that towed our 37ft toy hauler to motocross races. Very roomy and very comfortable. This is league's above the kodiak.
I'd like to see it run up and down the Ike Gauntlet along with MPG numbers towing and not towing to see how it compares to a 1 ton dually in all aspects!!
"A lot of hot air on this truck" says Mr. Truck. Got a good chuckle from that comment. The tire balancers which supposedly add 25% or more life span to the tires was interesting.
But in my experience, they add significant life to both tires and suspension parts because they almost instantly adjust the balance of the axle end. I delivered travel trailers for a year, the boss put centralizers on all axle ends and it make a difference in the ride, as well as vehicle life. I was honestly surprised at the difference.
My 2019 dodge drw will hold 5510 lbs, and tow 32000. It only cost $ 38k. 400 hp and 1000lbs torque stock, after tuning 465hp and 1250 lbs torque, Take that freighter. Oh and btw I get better fuel mileage, and truck weights half as much, so power to weight ratio blows you away lol
4:53 seconds in. Yes it is CDL territory IF used in commerce. You can buy it for private use and pull your own trailer WITHOUT a Commercial driver's license. If you are pulling your stuff and not in commerce, no cdl. Colorado you can drive with a standard license as long as it is registered as and rv and not commercial, even pulling your own trailer. Some states have a non-commercial class system for this set up but still not a cdl requirement.
I want to correct some things that Mr. Truck said. The dash regeneration button only enables the user to do a manual or stationary regeneration when the DPF is highly soot loaded. If you hit the button and that condition is untrue, it will do nothing. Also, there should be no reduction in performance when the regeneration is occurring while pulling on grade, although fuel economy could be different.
Also, Andre says you can get higher power ratings with a Detroit Diesel but not in this M2-106 chassis to my knowledge. Detroit's DD8 is the largest Detroit option available for this chassis and the DD8 has a highest non-emergency rating of 350hp, but that rating has less peak torque (1050 lb-ft) than the engine in this video.
You do realize what he said about the regen is completely wrong. A long pull would be just about the best place to do a regen. The higher EGTs would help burnout the DPF.
As the few have already tried towing a fifth wheel trailer with a one ton dually when they believe to have heart stopping moments when they upgrade to a commercial vehicle believing it was to have the capacity and then some of what the dually did offer. As for about a quarter million they can have a semi that was to put a one ton dually to shame.
I see many one ton trucks way over loaded. Just because a one ton can pull something doesn’t mean it is smart to do so on a regular basis. Use the right tool for the job.👍
Hey guys, all trucks with air brakes have two tanks. Primary and secondary. Everything on the truck runs off that system, seats to brakes. Love the channel
I dunno.. if your towing 25k+ lbs with a truck on a regular basis, this is a truck that is made to make you the Captain of your rig and let you drive it in comfort and confidence, its just sketchy to be pulling a 35k lb trailer with an 8k lb truck with just regular disc brakes and a little exhaust brake, if anything went wrong while driving, there's no backup systems and things could get real hairy real fast, this truck is designed to pull those loads safely, mile in and mile out
Freightliner vs 1 ton dually with max load: It stops quicker. The max load is not limited by the powertrain but government regulation. Gets better fuel economy. Built to last 2 or 3 million miles ( no guarantee) Cheaper to maintain. Parts available 24/7 More stable at highway speeds. Having said that, 160k I'll pass.
I'd take mine in dark grey and plasti-wood swapped out for brushed alum. Truck does not look like it was built with recent tech or design. Current form kind of looking a bit 90's style...
freightshaker came out with that body style in the early 2000s. They don't put a ton of money into aesthetics because most people aren't buying them to look at. Summit Hauler could probably have picked a better starting point to build these off of aesthetically speaking but they are well made trucks as far as it goes.
@@jesustrevizo3148 That used to be the case back when freightliner made proper conventional trucks which ended with the classic XL. Now all they make is the cascadia. Freightliner and peterbilt are barely competitors any more. There isn't too many massive fleets buying petes and there aren't too many O/Os buying freightliners.
if your truck is a towing truck, and its regularly towing 20k+ lbs, THIS is the truck you should get, it will be a LOT more comfortable for you for those long hours and be a LOT more confidence inspiring with a heavy trailer like that behind it
$162K is an absolutely insane price. I’m a commercial driver and freightliners are known to be the throwaway trucks of the industry. I saw a 2018 Peterbilt 379 500HP tractor and it was absolutely stunning in every way! The driver said he paid $140K for it new, it hauls over 60K lbs, and makes him over $200K a year as an owner/operator. This truck is overpriced, requires a CDL, is underpowered and the interior looks like it’s from the 90s. NO THANKS!!
Agreed. This truck is for rich people to haul their horses and look good. Put it up against a 350/3500 Turbo diesel on the IKE Gauntlet and I bet it loses pretty badly. Love the air ride parts and high durability parts, but yeah you can get a layed-out Semi for that.
@@adamton7274 yes you can . But then the road taxes change .so if you are going to do hot shot stuff this would be a good class of truck. Just get read of the bed and put a fithwheel on it
@@ray-vf6ux i have semi trucks. brand new they cost around 150k fully loaded. i bought mine for 148 fully loaded plus my cab is 3 feet longer my engine is 515HP and 1650-1850 lbf∙ft torque and 13speed transmission, extra axle and can tow 80,000lbs. this truck is way too overpriced. no matter what they say about the motor if it is 2008 or newer it will not go half million miles without major repair, trust me i been in trucking since 1992.
E30 M3 Quivk charging isn’t good to do on the regular as it burns the battery out quicker if you do. 2.1 amps is a solid charge if you ask me, way better than the standard bullshit 1 amp plugs and chargers.
Robert Benkenstein it probably won't go faster up the hill but it will go down the hill better and handle better...the new pickups have tons of power. These trucks are detuned to go a million miles. It's definitely a more comfortable towing experience but that's really what all semi trucks are about.
@@markbremmer8642 dodge and freightliner will walk away still driving even for the dodge being the pickup truck it wont tow as good as the freightliner but my point is both cummins will walk away untouched
I have driven a box truck with the same engine and transmission as this one. It could definitely use some more power for the size, as I feel it is underpowered as it is. Plenty of torque though.
Yes but the rear bumper is qenuine garage hand(?) made! And seems you could get a year 2020 500hp Volvo vnl with quickshift and sleeper for 155 000 USD...
I'm lost here, for what this cost you can get a class 8 road tractor. The dash is the same as a mid 2000's Columbia. Why not just buy a platinum f550 and have a more practical vehicle. And I hate the horn blowing just because I didn't pull the park brake before opening the door. I guess this is what a Dr buys for his wife to pull the wife's 2 horses.
Exactly, if I was to compare the truck in the video to your average luxury dually I would much rather own a ram 5500 because it's as big as a regular dually and I can drive it daily more easily than this freightliner, I can see people who are into hotshots using this freightliner but at the same time if you have to get a CDL to drive it and it cost about $162k you might as well get a semi truck and do as much or more than this truck can I admit the truck is cool but in my opinion I much rather save my money and get a dually or if I want to spend around $100k I might as well get a semi truck with a flattop sleeper, this truck is trying to convince me that it's the best of both worlds but in all honest all I got from it was that I'm better off choosing one or the other The only people I can see this sort of benefitting is people who only use a truck to go camping or go to car shows/car competitions and need something to carry their cars with and a place to sleep in but even then some car trailers have a built in living quarters
Matt M it’s a luxury version of the freightliner M2 model is all for the money you can buy a brand new class 8 truck for the same as this model cost they are charging 160k for lol . I have a m2 with the isl Cummins tandem axle. They are built to take a beating the light duty 2500-5500s are not
Or instead of going to an upfitter who is charging you extra for standard parts, you could get it from Freightliner, or KW or Pete or International for under 100K. Out new KW T370 single cab with a Cummins and an Alison and diff lock, was about $72ish and is rated for 59,000 pounds truck and trailer weight. This is just a 4 door version of the M2 Business class Freightliner and they are nice trucks, though the factory dash is nicer than whatever the upfitter did to this one.
To all writing me... Easiest answer it depends on your state, some have GVWR or even Foot regulation. I am from WI where we have Private versus Commercial, if it is not over 10k and used in the furtherness of a business including Farm than it is personal and exempt. Period. Little van versus Prevost, doesn’t matter, if not a business venture you are exempt no matter brakes or what you tow.
You can get a really nice used class 8 with a condo sleeper and automated 9spd manual for about $15 with only 300k miles on it... or my pick a box truck with a reefer and a lift gate... they'll tow 30,000 and you can make big money delivering things locally ...
One VERY important area this truck lacks that no one else has mentioned..... 4X4, yes its only 2wd. Let me tell you they will get stuck on a fresh cow pie. We used to have one on these on the ranch in South Dakota. Yes, they are sweet and smooth as silk towing up and down the interstates. Not to mention this thing is twice as much $ as any 3500 dually on any lot!
I do agree if you're towing 30,000 plus this type of truck is much better suited to that kind of work, with the air brakes, jake and heavier commercial grade construction, but I think you could get the price down quite a bit. I've seen similar trucks in the $100k range.
Dualies are made for people who tow 15k on the regular, that class of truck is made for people who tow 30k on the regular. And this particular truck is just made for rich people like racing horse owners.
That was fun!! Now I KNOW what I want to pull a large 5th Wheel TT with. I think I might like the air horn for those times when you want to say hi to the kid doing the 'cord pull' hand sign from the back seat of dad's truck. Thanks for a look at an exotic, for trucks!! Excellent.
Hate to burst your bubble, But you can lay across in the back seat of the megacab's. I am a little taller than Andre at 6'4" and have slept in the back of mine a few times. Quite comfortably might I add.
As a person that drives for a living it's not worth the horrible ride the higher insurance the worst fuel mileage there's nothing better about having it it's bigger it's more awkward in tight places more power but look at the power Duallys have nowadays no need for it
No CDL required for private use...so you have no idea what to do when you lose air pressure. And, it is a passive regen, which doesn't derate the engine. You can push that button all day long and it's not going to do anything unless you're parked and the computer determines it's ready for a parked regen. Unless those that developed the 9L weren't talking to those that developed the 15L.
The m2 with the Cummins and 6 speed Allison is no joke. We have a lot of them at ODFL and trust me they can take a beating. Axle rating is 20k on ours but a lot of the time we’re well over weight and pulls no problem. Only issue I have with the truck is the jake brake isn’t very powerful. Nonetheless it’s a great truck.
Nice truck, but $160k is pretty steep for a little single screw truck with only 350hp. I run a 4 axle fully optioned '19 Western Star 4964SB Heavy Haul tractor with an X15 650hp/2050 torque Cummins and 18 speed that didn't cost a whole lot more than that. Pretty nice and impressive in the parking lot, but not at all cheap.
That's true. It's a nice little rig, but that's a pretty big price for the truck. The upside of that truck is that it's built to handle the bigger loads, so the longevity and dependability should be there.
I just bought a 2022 M2 106 from them, I pick it up 1/8/24 can’t wait to hook it up to my 45 ft LUXE 5th wheel, coming from my 2017 F-350 6.7 L diesel.
@@QuadTap I absolutely love our Freightliner, we have towed our Luxe approximately 10,000 miles with it and the ride is so much better, yes they are a bit over 2 times the price of a new 1 ton Dually but when you invest that much in that caliber of a trailer and have a rig that is all air ride you might as well go for it. We have no regrets in buying our Freightliner M2 106 , Alex at Transwest Truck Trailer RV of Belton, MO was our salesman and was wonderful to deal with.
@@1davechandler awesome report. Glad you're happy with it. What do you use to get around with? Are you taking that thing to the grocery store when you get to where you're going?
Work sucks. I'd love to buy one of these and a nice trailer and offer hauling services in my area - cars, boats, farm equip., etc. That'd be cooler than most other jobs IMO
Picked up a 15 year ol peterbuilt hauler with the 14l engine and 3.8m miles for 5500 all in from the auction last week. Ugly bright red on red but hey...
For what people are paying, the crazy size they're getting and how hard they're being worked they aught to be running huge Medium Duty trucks like this.
What up Freightliner! It is new of my wish list. I will buy you down the road used for transporting my cattles up in down the Nevada desert and go camping with a huge 5th wheel toy hauler. I will catch you down the road someday and hopefully half or one third of the original price.
But one major key though, say you're hauling a race car or horses etc, wouldn't this truck require a log book and all that bs? Might be better off with a cab and chassis version of whichever one of the big three brands you prefer.
I drive a 2017 freightliner straight truck version of this truck every day. I have 189,000 on that exact motor. Its been very problematic to say the least. 500,000 miles in theory but not in reality. The regen button will only allow a parked regen when a light comes on in the dash because a parked regen is at 1200 degrees and you will burn out the catalyst prematurely which is around 3000 $ or so. It does a passive regen at highway speeds at 600 /700 degrees. If the regen light comes on and you don't regen it it will bushwack you in to a protection half power mode which on dealer grade software can reset. Also there's no line heater on the fuel line so you will gel up on minus 25 degree days even with the 911 additive. I can go on and on but that's the sum of it. Really bad qc control at freightliner these days. You honestly couldn't give me one of these trucks.
I like the way you refer to it as "this truck" or "this monster truck" without ever actually referring to its actual model name, so that I can't look it up anywhere else. Is it a secret? You don't use the name of the product in your review. Great strategy.
And this is why we drive a diesel pusher motorhome and pull a jeep behind. We can take the jeep to the store, outlet malls, off roading, you name it. It's a challenge just taking this thing to the grocery store and you definitely won't be hitting the trails with this rig. We like more freedom to do things when we travel. Just not our cup of tea.
Nice truck this will definitely handle the loads better than the new hd pickups because it's built for it. Just one issue it's rwd only needs a power steer axel
I used a frieghtliner m2 business class when I deliver monster. I pulled a 40 foot semi trailer and regularly grossed 40k pounds. All loads required a class A cdl to move. I wouldn't call it a monster, but its definitely not in the same class as a one ton pickup. Thats like saying a Corvette makes a honda civic look shitty.
So, it's in the neighborhood of a semi price wise, has the tow rating of a 1 ton Ram regular cab, and you need a CDL to drive it. Hmmm I figured you guys would get put on a pike for the explanation of the air system, and the DPF Regen explanation. If I were you guys, I'd take this video down, and do some serious editing before you're accused of being misleading. It's clear that this truck is outside your scope. A sin really.
Darkmatter2134 doesn’t matter. See my other post, states differ, some require air brakes, PA for one has a foot (feet) limit I have been told. In my state you can take a 8x8 from a military auction and drive it around with Collector Plates on a regular DL.
Regen systems are good until you park under a tree and the truck decides its a good time to do a regen while idling. 1000+ degrees, wood burns at 450F. Didn't happen to me but I watched another driver who found a nice shaded spot under a tree at one of our company yards find out in a hurry that it wasn't a good idea to park under something while idling with auto regen active.
The way light duty trucks are going, this is a sneak peek at the 2030 group of trucks lmao
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Accept by then they will be pulling 45-50k
@@yotatrd5.758 with brakes designed for half that amount lol. Nice screename I have a Tundra
@@yotatrd5.758 lol our GVM and GCM laws here in Australia will need a massive update they way they are ATM we cant even max out a Ram 3500 the max GCM in Australia is 9000kg (19,841 lb) to max it our you would need to get it classed as a semi truck and get a semi license.
Phalanx 380 in austria you cant even register such trucks maximum is 3500kg for car an Trailer combined. So technically even a heavy car such as a rolls Royce must be registered as a semi truck.....
I love these trucks! They are a fantastic option for those who can afford them and need a dedicated towing beast! Great review and showcase as always. I also love having a pickup truck bed for those trips to the hardware and feed store when not towing.
Thanks for the kind comment. We love your vids as well. Keep up the great work!
True but if you have one of these, you probably have a couple of ranch pickups for those mundane duties ;).
Jd, you already planning on trading the f450 for one of these?
This truck plus a big enough trailer to justify it, may as well get a class A. The only time this would make sense is in the case of an actual Class 8 (which of course this is nowhere near) that an owner operator trucker already has. That's pretty niche.
Its a normal tractor with a bed. Only differance is a 9 liter engine. Id by an old tractor without emmisions and convert it. With a fifthwheel attachment as needed for trailer.
Whats really cool is for 162k you get a key fob that unlocks your doors......🙄
...That is an aftermarket add-on you can put on any vehicle.. (hence the reason for the trunk button...) looks like a DEI remote to me. The kit is prob $35 retail but if you buy this truck, you get it for $1198.75.
All that said.. Nice truck!!
Not only that it's a $50 Avital alarm system! Fancy shit right there.
Holton C no what is really cool is you pay 162k for the key fob and they throw in the truck!!
It's actually very uncommon as far as I know to have a fob for a medium or heavy duty truck unless it's a ford or gmc or something and idk if even those come with fobs I haven't had any of them, but it is a pretty half ass aftermarket fob for 162k.
Holton C. And don't forget the bitchin rodeo belt buckle with matching chain drive wallet. lol YAHOO!
As a truck driver who is currently sitting in a Kenworth T680 with a 455hp/1850 ft-lb 13 liter MX series engine and a 16-speed Eaton Fuller Ultrashift Plus with 3.55 rear axles..
This is a damn nice truck too. I'd buy one if I had the cash.
Same price as your Kenworth. I'll take the Kenny
The KW has a shaper turn radius than the Freight Liner does.
As a truck driver the last thing I want to do on my days off is get in another truck.
I'll take my truck without the garbage auto... Current haul pig is a freightliner 122sd dd13 Detroit 505hp 1850tq 18speed Eaton with 3.91 rears with full lockers, regularly pulling over 100,000lbs
In first gear your KW has over 100,000 ft/lbs at the rear wheels
Love TFL series. Many great reviews of vehicles (like this Freightliner) that I would never own, but find very interesting and watch just for fun. Glad they review them.
you can get it cheaper by getting the same truck from freight liner and then get a bed for it
It's the same body style from 2003. You can easily find a used, pre-emssion, low mile m2 cheap. Anybody who'd spend 160k on this has more money than sense.
You can buy a full-size rig used for far less than that and make more money with it.
Both are true
@@josenoyola9851 beg to differ, the hot shot guys using the one ton trucks make very good money and truthfully if I was going to do that I would buy one of these used instead of a one ton since you can find these on the second hand market for fairly reasonable.
not really, the leather seats, the chrome, the wood trim, the bus tires, the polished Alcoas, the tire balancers, the custom bed, the custom paint job, the voyager camera system, the air-ride GN/5W hitch, are all custom add-ons from the custom shop. Sure, you can buy a new M2 crew cab, but it's gonna have none of the features this truck has, you'll get a basic work truck that you'll have to build up yourself.
Well I would be happy with a $65K-$70K dually. Then I could save the extra $100K
Manual regen switch ONLY works with the parking brake applied and sitting still. Usually takes 15-30 minutes. While you're rolling, the regen can happen automatically.
Look at the price of an A class Tractor. It can be had for $160k, or less. Compare that to a $90k pickup, and you’ll see that pickups are overpriced.
No comparison would be needed if people would stop expecting a Pickup to pull loads that truthfully require a Semi to handle.
We’ve got a Peterbilt 335 4 door all black. With the same flatbed. It’s a Cummins ISX that’s been deleted. We use it to pull our 49 ft horse trailer. We absolutely love it. We had bought a Freightliner exactly like that on but it couldn’t handle the trailer but it had a mersadies Benz engine.
For the cost it needs a better dashboard. I believe Navistar's started using the past generation GM truck dashboards and steering wheels with the push-button controls. Put a sunroof in. Make the map screen a whole lot bigger!
Growing up we had a kodiak truck that towed our 37ft toy hauler to motocross races. Very roomy and very comfortable. This is league's above the kodiak.
No freight shaker is worth 162,000$
You mean $162,000
I agree.
What about, say, one with a 120" luxury bunk?
Jags I think they were being particular about the positioning of the $.
I got my frieightshaker just put a new kitty cat in it sounds manly A.F but still a freight shaker lol
I'd like to see it run up and down the Ike Gauntlet along with MPG numbers towing and not towing to see how it compares to a 1 ton dually in all aspects!!
"A lot of hot air on this truck" says Mr. Truck. Got a good chuckle from that comment. The tire balancers which supposedly add 25% or more life span to the tires was interesting.
But in my experience, they add significant life to both tires and suspension parts because they almost instantly adjust the balance of the axle end. I delivered travel trailers for a year, the boss put centralizers on all axle ends and it make a difference in the ride, as well as vehicle life. I was honestly surprised at the difference.
My 2019 dodge drw will hold 5510 lbs, and tow 32000. It only cost $ 38k.
400 hp and 1000lbs torque stock, after tuning 465hp and 1250 lbs torque,
Take that freighter.
Oh and btw I get better fuel mileage, and truck weights half as much, so power to weight ratio blows you away lol
Just drive what works for you
4:53 seconds in. Yes it is CDL territory IF used in commerce. You can buy it for private use and pull your own trailer WITHOUT a Commercial driver's license. If you are pulling your stuff and not in commerce, no cdl. Colorado you can drive with a standard license as long as it is registered as and rv and not commercial, even pulling your own trailer. Some states have a non-commercial class system for this set up but still not a cdl requirement.
I want to correct some things that Mr. Truck said. The dash regeneration button only enables the user to do a manual or stationary regeneration when the DPF is highly soot loaded. If you hit the button and that condition is untrue, it will do nothing. Also, there should be no reduction in performance when the regeneration is occurring while pulling on grade, although fuel economy could be different.
Also, Andre says you can get higher power ratings with a Detroit Diesel but not in this M2-106 chassis to my knowledge. Detroit's DD8 is the largest Detroit option available for this chassis and the DD8 has a highest non-emergency rating of 350hp, but that rating has less peak torque (1050 lb-ft) than the engine in this video.
Oh my. Parts of me are getting excited. Especially when I saw that Cummins and those seats.
WOW Can't believe it has a key fob and air seat that's like futuristic
It would be really cool if they could coordinate the GPS unit with the Regen unit to enable automatic burn off prior to arriving at a steep grade.
You do realize what he said about the regen is completely wrong. A long pull would be just about the best place to do a regen. The higher EGTs would help burnout the DPF.
It is so funny how they compare this to a dually. Not really comparable, but great review non the less. Good job guys 👍🏼
Yea it cost almost triple the amount
As the few have already tried towing a fifth wheel trailer with a one ton dually when they believe to have heart stopping moments when they upgrade to a commercial vehicle believing it was to have the capacity and then some of what the dually did offer. As for about a quarter million they can have a semi that was to put a one ton dually to shame.
I see many one ton trucks way over loaded. Just because a one ton can pull something doesn’t mean it is smart to do so on a regular basis. Use the right tool for the job.👍
9:08 is going to scare your lot lizard, during her escape!😁
The old senior citizen truck guy should be thinking about this
hahahaha....very funny. However he mentioned when it was in gear. Hopefully youre not mean enough to make her tuck and roll lmao
@@coltheesacker5656 Sometimes they need to get out, while the gettin's good.
@@EM-fi2qg right... it hasta happen once in a while
Hey guys, all trucks with air brakes have two tanks. Primary and secondary. Everything on the truck runs off that system, seats to brakes. Love the channel
Chevy, GMC, International and Ford had these back in the 2000s...
Wow my boss is holding out! I had no idea freightliner made anything this nice 😍
It's the other way around Andre. 1 ton luxury dually trucks will put this to shame in price, in basically everything.
I dunno.. if your towing 25k+ lbs with a truck on a regular basis, this is a truck that is made to make you the Captain of your rig and let you drive it in comfort and confidence, its just sketchy to be pulling a 35k lb trailer with an 8k lb truck with just regular disc brakes and a little exhaust brake, if anything went wrong while driving, there's no backup systems and things could get real hairy real fast, this truck is designed to pull those loads safely, mile in and mile out
Freightliner vs 1 ton dually with max load:
It stops quicker.
The max load is not limited by the powertrain but government regulation.
Gets better fuel economy.
Built to last 2 or 3 million miles ( no guarantee)
Cheaper to maintain.
Parts available 24/7
More stable at highway speeds.
Having said that, 160k I'll pass.
@@GrandmasterFU666 But, buy one used with a couple hundred thousand miles for $50-70k? That sounds smarter then a new fully loaded one to. Dually
Exactly, much more capable than a 1 ton
Holy Smokes..... That is the Dopest truck .....
I'd take mine in dark grey and plasti-wood swapped out for brushed alum. Truck does not look like it was built with recent tech or design. Current form kind of looking a bit 90's style...
freightshaker came out with that body style in the early 2000s. They don't put a ton of money into aesthetics because most people aren't buying them to look at. Summit Hauler could probably have picked a better starting point to build these off of aesthetically speaking but they are well made trucks as far as it goes.
From all the old guys that I've heard Freightliner is a poor mans peterbilt
They are not exactly brilliant, Freightshaker is an appropriate name. like Navistar are the bottom of the barrel in Australia
@@jesustrevizo3148 That used to be the case back when freightliner made proper conventional trucks which ended with the classic XL. Now all they make is the cascadia. Freightliner and peterbilt are barely competitors any more. There isn't too many massive fleets buying petes and there aren't too many O/Os buying freightliners.
@@robertryan7204 I think navistars are trash all around the globe lol
Still trying to figure out how you get 6 separate "air systems" from 2 air tanks. How many systems are left when you have with 2 empty air tanks?
Air tanks are recharged by engine mounted compressor.
2 air systems, 6 subsystems.
if your truck is a towing truck, and its regularly towing 20k+ lbs, THIS is the truck you should get, it will be a LOT more comfortable for you for those long hours and be a LOT more confidence inspiring with a heavy trailer like that behind it
$162K is an absolutely insane price. I’m a commercial driver and freightliners are known to be the throwaway trucks of the industry. I saw a 2018 Peterbilt 379 500HP tractor and it was absolutely stunning in every way! The driver said he paid $140K for it new, it hauls over 60K lbs, and makes him over $200K a year as an owner/operator. This truck is overpriced, requires a CDL, is underpowered and the interior looks like it’s from the 90s. NO THANKS!!
Exactly!!! It doesn't make sense!!! Needs improvement,an a better price!! 90k max
So rich people can pretend to be super trucker 9000
He’s acting like all this stuff is new lol it has all been out for years
12:11 Sissy socks 😂😂. Thank you. I've always hated those things. Now I have a fitting name for 'em.
That's because you probably have sissy legs.
“The key is over here on the left like all semi trucks”.... with a freight liner badge on it
The bane Of my existence hino isuzu volvo international mack all on the right 😂 atleast they are trying
For the amount of money this cost I'd just get a semi. You'll lose your a$$ getting this truck to run your hot shot business!!!
Agreed. This truck is for rich people to haul their horses and look good. Put it up against a 350/3500 Turbo diesel on the IKE Gauntlet and I bet it loses pretty badly. Love the air ride parts and high durability parts, but yeah you can get a layed-out Semi for that.
@@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guycould you get a new semi for 160k? Just curious no idea what they run.
@@adamton7274 yes you can . But then the road taxes change .so if you are going to do hot shot stuff this would be a good class of truck. Just get read of the bed and put a fithwheel on it
@@ray-vf6ux i have semi trucks. brand new they cost around 150k fully loaded. i bought mine for 148 fully loaded plus my cab is 3 feet longer my engine is 515HP and 1650-1850 lbf∙ft torque and 13speed transmission, extra axle and can tow 80,000lbs. this truck is way too overpriced. no matter what they say about the motor if it is 2008 or newer it will not go half million miles without major repair, trust me i been in trucking since 1992.
Just paid $158 for my new Cascadia from fyda. Trans West are gonna be sitting on those forever for $160k
The USB port is only 2.1 amp max. Most new phones require at least 3.1 amps to quick charge.
E30 M3 Quivk charging isn’t good to do on the regular as it burns the battery out quicker if you do. 2.1 amps is a solid charge if you ask me, way better than the standard bullshit 1 amp plugs and chargers.
Should do an Ike test, as well as fuel economy
bet it averages 7-9 mpg. The 26 foot box truck I drive gets about 7-9 combined.
8mpg city, 8mpg highway, 8mpg ike. That's a bit of an exaggeration but for the most part that's how these big rigs are.
Depending on weight 6 to 10 mpgs
Can you guys do a toe test up the gauntlet at like 30,000 lb put it up against a Dodge in a Ford and a Chevy
No contest. That truck will beat GM,FORD & DODGE with ease. And it will outlast them as well.
Robert Benkenstein it probably won't go faster up the hill but it will go down the hill better and handle better...the new pickups have tons of power. These trucks are detuned to go a million miles. It's definitely a more comfortable towing experience but that's really what all semi trucks are about.
@@markbremmer8642 dodge and freightliner will walk away still driving even for the dodge being the pickup truck it wont tow as good as the freightliner but my point is both cummins will walk away untouched
I have driven a box truck with the same engine and transmission as this one. It could definitely use some more power for the size, as I feel it is underpowered as it is. Plenty of torque though.
Is that a camel toe test?
Or are talking about a towing test?
The dashboard color and material are just hideous. Straight off a mercedes from the 60s
Yes but the rear bumper is qenuine garage hand(?) made! And seems you could get a year 2020 500hp Volvo vnl with quickshift and sleeper for 155 000 USD...
A used Volvo would be more effective
Or a freightliner from 2000-now
Yeah, the color and that fake BS woodgrain makes me wanna puke.
@@GTOAviator
They held out the ugliest color they could find.
Hate to say this. Not to bash. But for 162k. You can get one hell of a semi trk. Like a 389 pete loaded
I'm lost here, for what this cost you can get a class 8 road tractor. The dash is the same as a mid 2000's Columbia. Why not just buy a platinum f550 and have a more practical vehicle. And I hate the horn blowing just because I didn't pull the park brake before opening the door. I guess this is what a Dr buys for his wife to pull the wife's 2 horses.
When will you test the new chevy silverado 1500 duramax?
You can't get a Duramax in a 1500
@@SoI_Badguy bullshit
most 1 ton dullys have close to the same towing numbers now
Big Bossman that’s cool and all but this truck will pull and stop a hell of a lot better . Also can get one for 60-70k new without the bed
Big Bossman they are lighter duty and would not last as long. This is built for a commercial lifetime, towing 75-100,000 miles a year.
@@svt89 So the bed cost $90-100k?
Exactly, if I was to compare the truck in the video to your average luxury dually I would much rather own a ram 5500 because it's as big as a regular dually and I can drive it daily more easily than this freightliner, I can see people who are into hotshots using this freightliner but at the same time if you have to get a CDL to drive it and it cost about $162k you might as well get a semi truck and do as much or more than this truck can
I admit the truck is cool but in my opinion I much rather save my money and get a dually or if I want to spend around $100k I might as well get a semi truck with a flattop sleeper, this truck is trying to convince me that it's the best of both worlds but in all honest all I got from it was that I'm better off choosing one or the other
The only people I can see this sort of benefitting is people who only use a truck to go camping or go to car shows/car competitions and need something to carry their cars with and a place to sleep in but even then some car trailers have a built in living quarters
Matt M it’s a luxury version of the freightliner M2 model is all for the money you can buy a brand new class 8 truck for the same as this model cost they are charging 160k for lol . I have a m2 with the isl Cummins tandem axle. They are built to take a beating the light duty 2500-5500s are not
Or instead of going to an upfitter who is charging you extra for standard parts, you could get it from Freightliner, or KW or Pete or International for under 100K. Out new KW T370 single cab with a Cummins and an Alison and diff lock, was about $72ish and is rated for 59,000 pounds truck and trailer weight.
This is just a 4 door version of the M2 Business class Freightliner and they are nice trucks, though the factory dash is nicer than whatever the upfitter did to this one.
To all writing me... Easiest answer it depends on your state, some have GVWR or even Foot regulation. I am from WI where we have Private versus Commercial, if it is not over 10k and used in the furtherness of a business including Farm than it is personal and exempt. Period. Little van versus Prevost, doesn’t matter, if not a business venture you are exempt no matter brakes or what you tow.
Found my new daily driver ;-)
Fast food drive thru, no problem lol
Forget those parking spaces for compact vehicles only. 😉
@@HP.Customs that's for lazy asses
$162k? Might as well spend another $20k on a Class 8 truck...
You can get a really nice used class 8 with a condo sleeper and automated 9spd manual for about $15 with only 300k miles on it... or my pick a box truck with a reefer and a lift gate... they'll tow 30,000 and you can make big money delivering things locally ...
One VERY important area this truck lacks that no one else has mentioned..... 4X4, yes its only 2wd. Let me tell you they will get stuck on a fresh cow pie.
We used to have one on these on the ranch in South Dakota. Yes, they are sweet and smooth as silk towing up and down the interstates. Not to mention this thing is twice as much $ as any 3500 dually on any lot!
I do agree if you're towing 30,000 plus this type of truck is much better suited to that kind of work, with the air brakes, jake and heavier commercial grade construction, but I think you could get the price down quite a bit. I've seen similar trucks in the $100k range.
Cool review. It's footprint does not seem that much more than a dually, and seems to even have a better turning radius.
There’s a lot from this truck to a dually 3500
Jo Andre, how about two dualies for one of your freightliner..☺ nice truck but Im not sold think Dualies are more practical✌
If I become a hotshot this would be the truck!
Dualies are made for people who tow 15k on the regular, that class of truck is made for people who tow 30k on the regular. And this particular truck is just made for rich people like racing horse owners.
I'd just get an M2 chassis with fifth wheel. None of the fancy expensive stuff.
It's cool that you guys are testing these big commercial trucks too 👍🏻
That was fun!! Now I KNOW what I want to pull a large 5th Wheel TT with. I think I might like the air horn for those times when you want to say hi to the kid doing the 'cord pull' hand sign from the back seat of dad's truck.
Thanks for a look at an exotic, for trucks!! Excellent.
Hate to burst your bubble, But you can lay across in the back seat of the megacab's. I am a little taller than Andre at 6'4" and have slept in the back of mine a few times. Quite comfortably might I add.
As a person that drives for a living it's not worth the horrible ride the higher insurance the worst fuel mileage there's nothing better about having it it's bigger it's more awkward in tight places more power but look at the power Duallys have nowadays no need for it
No CDL required for private use...so you have no idea what to do when you lose air pressure.
And, it is a passive regen, which doesn't derate the engine. You can push that button all day long and it's not going to do anything unless you're parked and the computer determines it's ready for a parked regen. Unless those that developed the 9L weren't talking to those that developed the 15L.
The m2 with the Cummins and 6 speed Allison is no joke. We have a lot of them at ODFL and trust me they can take a beating. Axle rating is 20k on ours but a lot of the time we’re well over weight and pulls no problem. Only issue I have with the truck is the jake brake isn’t very powerful. Nonetheless it’s a great truck.
Nice truck, but $160k is pretty steep for a little single screw truck with only 350hp. I run a 4 axle fully optioned '19 Western Star 4964SB Heavy Haul tractor with an X15 650hp/2050 torque Cummins and 18 speed that didn't cost a whole lot more than that. Pretty nice and impressive in the parking lot, but not at all cheap.
Thomas Kirk most of those folks that do the horse shows got the money to blow on one of those trucks lol
You also probably bought if from Western Star, not an upfitter who charges money for the stuff the truck had standard from Freightliner.
That's true. It's a nice little rig, but that's a pretty big price for the truck. The upside of that truck is that it's built to handle the bigger loads, so the longevity and dependability should be there.
I was kinda hoping for an IKE test...
I just bought a 2022 M2 106 from them, I pick it up 1/8/24 can’t wait to hook it up to my 45 ft LUXE 5th wheel, coming from my 2017 F-350 6.7 L diesel.
how's it going?
@@QuadTap I absolutely love our Freightliner, we have towed our Luxe approximately 10,000 miles with it and the ride is so much better, yes they are a bit over 2 times the price of a new 1 ton Dually but when you invest that much in that caliber of a trailer and have a rig that is all air ride you might as well go for it. We have no regrets in buying our Freightliner M2 106 , Alex at Transwest Truck Trailer RV of Belton, MO was our salesman and was wonderful to deal with.
@@1davechandler awesome report. Glad you're happy with it. What do you use to get around with? Are you taking that thing to the grocery store when you get to where you're going?
I will take 2 ford f450 limited's for the price of this truck
First PU truck maker of offer air-suspension seat(s) in their 2500, 3500, and up models will make a killing.
BlackBuzzzard Ford F650 & F750 has it. National Driver Seat.
I found them on the Internet for half that price long as you know what you're looking for and know how to shop around
Work sucks. I'd love to buy one of these and a nice trailer and offer hauling services in my area - cars, boats, farm equip., etc. That'd be cooler than most other jobs IMO
Picked up a 15 year ol peterbuilt hauler with the 14l engine and 3.8m miles for 5500 all in from the auction last week. Ugly bright red on red but hey...
TFL >>> hey I love the way you use 'just' for the price when it's 165K+, it's very cute 🤣
Andre and Mr Truck are the best 😃
Yeah, the inside rearview mirror in my F-250 was missing when I recovered it, still haven’t replaced it and don’t really plan to.
For what people are paying, the crazy size they're getting and how hard they're being worked they aught to be running huge Medium Duty trucks like this.
That thing reminds me of the old Ford Centurions you could get back in the 80's. Except this ones been to the gym on all the steroids.
bought my very low mileage mdt for less than a new 1/2 ton. would never go back to pulling my 5th with a lgt. worth every nickle.
I wonder if this would be a good option truck for Hotshot trucking ???
Will we see this big unit on the Ike with a full load?
What up Freightliner! It is new of my wish list. I will buy you down the road used for transporting my cattles up in down the Nevada desert and go camping with a huge 5th wheel toy hauler. I will catch you down the road someday and hopefully half or one third of the original price.
Went with a Chevy Kodiak for towing my trailers saved so much money.
Andre, Keep polishing that motor and wishing you had a CDL.....
Actually he does have a CDL he just got it recently a few months back.
Okay where's my 2003 GMC Topkick?
This bad looking fake wood brings back some warm 90th feeling to me.
If I had a 5th wheel that weighed a lot and needed a dedicated truck this would be it.
It’s all old technology loads of trucks have air everything and red dome lights, and a key fob* wtf
But one major key though, say you're hauling a race car or horses etc, wouldn't this truck require a log book and all that bs? Might be better off with a cab and chassis version of whichever one of the big three brands you prefer.
So if you have to have a cdl for that truck, why wouldn't you save yourself $60K and get yourself a class 7or 8 truck
Yep, and I just don't see many retirees being able to pass a DOT Medical. Most seasoned CDL drivers sweat going in for their physicals.
u would have to sell your house and wife to afford one of these. sign me up
Big Bossman you might some just wright a check ..
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I drive a 2017 freightliner straight truck version of this truck every day. I have 189,000 on that exact motor. Its been very problematic to say the least. 500,000 miles in theory but not in reality. The regen button will only allow a parked regen when a light comes on in the dash because a parked regen is at 1200 degrees and you will burn out the catalyst prematurely which is around 3000 $ or so. It does a passive regen at highway speeds at 600 /700 degrees. If the regen light comes on and you don't regen it it will bushwack you in to a protection half power mode which on dealer grade software can reset. Also there's no line heater on the fuel line so you will gel up on minus 25 degree days even with the 911 additive. I can go on and on but that's the sum of it. Really bad qc control at freightliner these days. You honestly couldn't give me one of these trucks.
I like the way you refer to it as "this truck" or "this monster truck" without ever actually referring to its actual model name, so that I can't look it up anywhere else. Is it a secret? You don't use the name of the product in your review. Great strategy.
And this is why we drive a diesel pusher motorhome and pull a jeep behind. We can take the jeep to the store, outlet malls, off roading, you name it. It's a challenge just taking this thing to the grocery store and you definitely won't be hitting the trails with this rig. We like more freedom to do things when we travel. Just not our cup of tea.
Beautiful, but it doesn't make me hate my Dually.
Nice truck this will definitely handle the loads better than the new hd pickups because it's built for it. Just one issue it's rwd only needs a power steer axel
I used a frieghtliner m2 business class when I deliver monster. I pulled a 40 foot semi trailer and regularly grossed 40k pounds. All loads required a class A cdl to move. I wouldn't call it a monster, but its definitely not in the same class as a one ton pickup. Thats like saying a Corvette makes a honda civic look shitty.
So, it's in the neighborhood of a semi price wise, has the tow rating of a 1 ton Ram regular cab, and you need a CDL to drive it.
Hmmm
I figured you guys would get put on a pike for the explanation of the air system, and the DPF Regen explanation.
If I were you guys, I'd take this video down, and do some serious editing before you're accused of being misleading.
It's clear that this truck is outside your scope.
A sin really.
Yea.... didn't know the Parked Regen would work while driving...
Cringe for us in the transportation industry. And trying to compare it to a one ton!!!
As long as for personal use, don’t need a CDL if from WI.
@@witkr904 Is that with or without Airbrakes?
Darkmatter2134 doesn’t matter. See my other post, states differ, some require air brakes, PA for one has a foot (feet) limit I have been told. In my state you can take a 8x8 from a military auction and drive it around with Collector Plates on a regular DL.
I hope they finally fixed there doors, so it doesn't feel like your going thru WY with the windows down
interesting hauler.. could not think of a category for it. I just thought of maine seafood and little docks. Something special.
Had to change my earlier statement. This would be pretty cool for LTL, but only if they dropped the price quit a bit.
Regen systems are good until you park under a tree and the truck decides its a good time to do a regen while idling. 1000+ degrees, wood burns at 450F. Didn't happen to me but I watched another driver who found a nice shaded spot under a tree at one of our company yards find out in a hurry that it wasn't a good idea to park under something while idling with auto regen active.
Definitely got to get my self one