They would most likely have to be higher in the ranks than just a cop your average cop has zero power on cases like this. It’s more down to the department itself on what decisions are made and how much effort is put into cases not a single cop unless that cop was closely associated to a higher ranked member
wasnt her clothes?? sharing a hammock with someone she doesn't know?? had a tampon in when she wasn't on her period?? bite mark?? no water in the lungs? in the water where she could NOT of fallen herself?? Aaron knows that Laurens body was in the water? not enough bruises and scratches. 90FT DROP. SHE WOULD BE BLACK AND BLUE. none of the friends attended the funeral?? "best weekend ever" not even a rape test? very very sketchy. a girl DEFINITELY helped. a girl put the clothes on her and found a bra that fit her. they would know and put the tampon in her to stop police thinking she was assaulted?? and what boy knows how to put a tampon in??
@Coco the Cat haha i didnt think about it like that. sorry for offending you if i did i was just stating that not alot of girls know how to put one in let alone a boy. i was just saying that's its very sketchy and that a girl must've helped haha. didn't mean to offend u if i did x
Crows - B4 - Hoes yes you should check out the podcast about the case by the private investigator, it’s all happening now. The podcast is Without Warning by Sheila Wysocki....so interesting
@@ariannabowman3077 It doesn't matter if it "hurts" less, you still will break bones.You don't get drunk and suddenly become immune to injuries, otherwise, I'd have a lot less than I have historically gotten. And honestly? If you can legally drive a car at .08 and she was only at .16, that is barely that drunk.
@@cwolff27 What about the documentary with a man who survived a tornado attack when he was knocked unconscious and thrown up in the air. While unconscious, his bones were able to evenly distribute the force and while he was sore, no major damage had been done. Now that was a single case of course, but it does not erase the credibility of bones sustaining damaging. Bruising, yes, there would definitely be more if she had fallen. It's inevitable. You can bruise without breaking a bone. But if you break a bone, there has to be bruising.
I agree, if they were in a hammock together surely he would’ve felt the movement of someone taking her or her moving, they need to investigate this further
I mean how else did Aaron know where she was in the water before one the police got there and two before really anyone knew someone was there expect for the fishermen...
Pretty messed up that her other “friend” didn’t let Lauren stay in the cabin with her. Sleeping on the floor would’ve been better than sleeping on a hammock over the river. Especially since she said she felt unsafe when she stayed there, and especially that Lauren was there with her violent ex-bf!
I would imagine the floor space was probably full up as well, but I imagine too that this friend feels so guilty now even if there was nothing she could have done differently.
@@audreycarys9020 fr violent ex should have been a. Hint oh let me ask my freind if she wants to sleep. In the cabin with me away from her crazy ex this is exactly why my freind group. Is small. Just with two people
what if the police were paid off or something like that. it’s really ridiculous the amount of proof against her “friends” it’s hard to believe they thought it was just “accidental” without some kind of set up
Hammocks swings so much at just the slightest movement so if Chris and Lauren were sharing a hammock Chris would have woken up when Lauren got out or was taken out.
Pretty well proves guilt right there and the IP address. If they didn't do anything why trash Lauren's memory. As a Mother, I would never rest till I got them. Poor Lauren, her intuition was going off and her fate was not one she chose. Heartbreaking case.
It's obvious that the three of them killed her. 1. Lauren wanted to go home. She probably didn't feel safe. 2. How can two people sleep in one of those hammocks? Even if they can, why would Lauren? Also How could Lauren climb out of it without waking up the guy? Hammocks move A LOT. 3. Those people continued at the festival even after finding out about their "friend's" death. Not to mention that they called it "The best weekend". 4. They didn't attend her funeral. 5. Mean comments traced to them. 6. The injuries. 7. The dummies didn't reach the water when dropped from the cliff. 8. Lauren was floating, her lungs had no water. 9. Abusive and violent behaviour of one of the guy. 10. Lauren's body was too far and in the opposite direction of the campsite. These many coincidences is not a coincidence.
Exactly, and I've seen a few comments about how her tampon was in and I highly doubt that Lauren would have just had one on and if she didn't and it was put there on purpose I doubt a. Man would know how to properly put one in so I had to have been the other girl on the trip. So we know for sure that she was involved in some way
I agree they probably killed her in her sleep/strangled her and throw it away far away from the place and definitely a planed murder cz they even go overnight in other place
It can't be drowning if there is no water in her lungs. So I wonder if that was actually mentioned on the medical report? There was no water in her lungs?
Even so dry drowning and secondary drowning usually happen when someone exists the water. This girl was raped, murdered, and thrown into the water. I honestly think Hannah did it along with at least one of the guys. Idk why, but I don’t know any guy that would think of finding a bra that relatively fit her AND thought to use a tampon to deter investigators from looking into sexual assault. Whoever was the medical examiner in this case was an absolute idiot
Right? People are always like "wow serial killers are so smart", and it's like no, they're usually average, but the police bungle the case so badly that they get away with their crimes
A woman helped cover this up. A woman would know how to find a bra that fit her convincingly. A woman would have a tampon and know how to insert it. A woman would have extra clothes that would fit her. I don’t know if it was her “friend” or not, but a woman was involved.
bite marks are actually realy bad for evidence, tbite mark comparisons arent and shouldnt be used for evidence. there was this one murder case where they wrongfully convicted someone bc of a bite mark, he spent 40 years in prison until they found out he wasnt the killer. they shouldve done a rape kit for sure though. and maybe look for his dna on the bite mark
Trust me, female detectives can be pretty heartless too. My male roommate and I have a female friend who one night was sexually assaulted and harassed while crossing a bridge in the city. She called my roommate, who at the time wasn't living with me yet, and he convinced her to go to the police and make a report. She was too uncomfortable to go alone, so he went with her. It was late at night so there were very few detectives still in the station and they got two female detectives. You would think great right? Two females will understand what I just went through. NOOOOOO. One detective was cold and heartless, asked her what she was wearing to provoke it, did she come on to the guy, was she currently sleeping with anyone, was she even currently sleeping with my friend who had gone with her to make the report, the detective even hit on my male roommate while they were there!!! THEN came the worst bit, they found a case file from a few years before that showed where our female friend had called and reported an intruder in her house. At the time, the police had taken so long to get there that the person was long gone. And they accused her of making a false report and said next time she did that that they'd sue her. So I guess the report was already negative. So these bitchy female detectives pull out the case file and say ohhhhh I see here you've reported a false case before. Was this "assault" on the bridge part of your imagination too? I mean cmonnnnnn I've never heard such a horror story in my life when my roommate told me about this. No wonder people don't report things. It's not a court room you have to worry about, it's the bloody detectives taking down your account!!!
Munkastrap4 i- im so so sorry that happened to her. thats so shocking and theres so many things wrong there i dokt know what to say. how is your friend doing now? i hope shes coping with those experiences
Ghost O.O it’s not an exact science. People have been falsely accused for that before, so they no longer consider it to be a proper forensic identification tool 🤷🏼♀️.
It's hard to do. The only reason they could match Ted bundy to the bite marks of the sorority girls was because he had a very distinct bite with crooked teeth. If all three had normal teeth you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them.
I'm not being funny, but does nobody realise how difficult it is to get out of a hammock? If Lauren fell, or even tried to leave, surely the guy she was in the hammock with would have felt it, or woken up?
Everyone needs a friend like Cassie. Lauren: we’re camping on the cliff but I don’t want to Cassie: I’d never stay there again I didn’t feel safe the whole time. Lauren: can I stay with you please? Cassie: no.
The most suspicious part to me is that none of these "friends" stopped going to the festival even though Lauren had died, and not a single one of them went to her funeral. Even if you don't really like one of your friends, you still pay respects, especially in those circumstances.
Ikr like even the “friend” in the hammock with her. Those things move ALOT when someone moves a tiny bit in them so for him not to wake up or feel someone getting out of a hammock doesn’t seem right to me
Exactly they claim friends enough for her to be willing to share a hammock but carry on partying and then to say best weekend ever. They are dodgy as all get out.
right personally I would have gotten the hell outta there when I knew someone CLOSE to me died, and not going to her funeral is just fucked up, shows how much they cared.
Fatima that Chris guy obviously did because he was the one out looking for her while the two others carried on partying. I would be pressuring the holy shit out of him. Eventually they crack and help solve the case, even if it is decades later... unless they have no soul that is.
Dear anyone who has friends: Imagine you and a small group of your friends are at a fun little festival. Suddenly, one of your friends literally *dies* - and let's say that for sure, you're all innocent. None of you had anything to do with their death, right? Would you be able to continue on partying at this festival? Would you be mentally sound, mentally stable enough, to stay where your friend had just died? And even if you were, how could you feel safe after something like that? Especially if the most believable, most likely scenario was foul play, how could you continue to stay somewhere where, very likely, a homicide- and of your FRIEND- just took place? I call bs. #JusticeForLaurenAgee
If i had friends and one died during us attending a festival No I couldn’t stay I’d go home And I couldn’t attend the funeral not because I don’t care,I’d be traumatized and get even more depressed I definitely wouldn’t feel safe if I stayed. I’d be overly paranoid
@@relent-lass7510 Exactly. Even if it wasn't someone I was super close with, that's a very traumatic ordeal to experience and go through. I know everyone deals with grief differently, but for all 3 of them to act like they never gave a shit, even with the possibility that there could be a murderer at this festival, is beyond suspicious to me. Either way, I hope this case gets closed soon for her family. ❤️
The thing is women have such good intuition! Always believe your gut if it says something is iffy! My bestfriend was smoking pot(which she’s done before just not with these two) with two boys, she asked for water both boys went upstairs and when they gave her the water she took a drink and her gut told her to get out of there, she had a panic attack which they say happens when your date rape drugged, she left the house and sat in her car and had her mom pick her up, she threw up in the car, passed out when she got home, me and her did research and her systems were those of the date rape drug GHB (I think) so I always say follow your gut and if u drink something and feel weird after, get out of there!!!!
@@set124 dry drowning is a thing it can be triggered by a teaspoon of water getting in the lungs. Same process as drowning just without water in the lungs
Angela Bordack it is really sad. Most of us have been in those situations where everything sounds fine and dandy until you’re stuck somewhere with some shady characters and shitty friends and try everything to get yourself out of that situation. Maybe not to this extreme, but relatable. I feel terrible for her family because they know those 3 know exactly what happened and at least one murdered her.
Same here. I am quarter way through the video. I've already heard new stuff that happened on the trip. Her friends suck! Sorry but if your friend needs a place to crash you make room knowing the spot she was going was dangerous. Also the group she slept with did it. The bruising on her body shaped as the pointed end of the canoe proves she was moved & the canoe was used.
I agree, I've looked into this case quite a bit and I've never been able to believe that it was an accident. Those 3 "friends" are *_extremely suspicious,_* and sadly I think they obviously did something to her and covered it up. I've wondered if Wakefest makes a lot of money, and also money for the surrounding area and there was a lot of pressure to find it as an accidental death. I don't know, but I feel terrible for family, especially her poor mother. 😖
This case needs to be opened back up.. there is just too much evidence pointing towards sexual assault and sadistic shit. He must have came from behind her and bit her (or pushed her down the hill to get her in the canoe but maybe couldn’t get her all the way in) and attacked her got her on the ground with his knees pinning her down. Then after he couldn’t put her in the canoe gave up and left her in the water and was coming back to get her when the police told him to go. Idk that’s what I think could have happened but she also could have just been super drunk and felt down face first down that cliff thing.
I hate that this is true, as well. My mum is really good at telling who’s being fake or not. She’s sniffed out two of mine so far and both predictions were correct, they stabbed me in the back.
@Kelly psychic mediums have no merit and have been known to actually mislead a case. Regardless, I’m interested to know what new evidence has been introduced
For those of you who don't know, it has been known that there was actually 5 of them in a group. The 5th was a man name Brixner who has a history of violence and is said to be a generally violent man. There is no achonowledgement of him in any of the statements from the 3 in question. Its generally believed they covered his appearance as he left the camp the same morning Lauren was found. Edit: Just read that not only did Brixner leave the camp that same morning, he left the entire state and hired himself a lawyer. HE IS THE PRIME SUSPECT FOR ME.
@@kieran8584 I meant at the time of the murder, not now lol!! I cannot see no one at the festival not mentioning him to police since these people were a five-some, not foursome. It amazes me these jokers could pull the wool over these cops eyes. This little bitch left the state and lawyered up before the body was cold! That sayez " hey....its me.....creepy older guy!!"
Omg I did in high school when I would black out a lot and it was a preventative measure so I wouldn't have sex and regret it the next day... yes it hurt like hell the next day taking it out but it always worked well for me
I definitely think all 3 friends were involved in the crime. Two of the reasons I especially believe a girl was involved is because 1.) Lauren was found in female clothes that weren't hers. It's highly unlikely that two guys at a festival would have had access to another female's clothing INCLUDING UNDERWEAR without that other female's consent. And 2.) The tampon that was found in Lauren's body. I have never heard of a guy using a tampon to cover up a sexual assault, and in my mind that's something only a female would think of. It really sucks that the police have ruled this case an accident despite all of the contrasting evidence. It seems to me that maybe they don't want to handle all of the police work that would be involved in investigating a case with that many possible witnesses, but that's no excuse for shoddy police work. I really hope that the case gets re-opened so Lauren's family can gain some semblance of closure.
@@azureazlon3947 Great to hear. I find it odd they can say, "Just an accident". She just accidentally fell, changed into clothes she didn't have, then put in a tampon when she wasn't on her period. I'd like to know if the damage to the clothes matched up with the damage on her body.
Exactly she could have gotten Toxic shock every girl knows about that risk even girls who don't wear tampons know about it. Plus if she thought she was due her period she could have taken medication to delay it? Because I'm pretty sure u can do it with the birth control pill pill and there's other medications that can as well.
most girls (that i know) have period trackers in their phones, if she had one then maybe they could've known if she was close to getting her period, if she wasn't then she wouldn't have used a tampon.
@@anonymoose116 definitely and if she thought she was going to get her period, the most obvious option would be to wear a pad because of the risk of TSS
Oh my god I can’t believe her friend didn’t let her stay in the cabin...if a friend (or even an obviously distressed stranger) told me they felt unsafe (and I know it’s unsafe) and wanted to stay in my cabin. Even if it was full I’d let them stay. I’d make them a bed on the floor or I’d push 2 beds together and 3 of us can get in it...damn you gotta look out for each other..especially at a festival 😢
I agree with the especially at a festival bit, some parts of most festivals are really dodgy and I would hope my friends wouldn’t leave me to feel unsafe, especially if I hadn’t put myself in a unsafe situation on purpose. However, I imagine this girl’s guilt because of this will be enough punishment for a lifetime
I mean a friend is understandable I would try to make some space for him/her but a stranger...some people just benefit from others kindness who knows if that stranger would be the cause of your death...Always be cautious
But what if it were a creepy ass dude, dressed in all black, looks sketchy, LOOKS LIKE A SERIAL KILLER, asked you "Hey, I feel very unsafe out here. Can I stay in your cabin/house just for this night?" tho i do understand if it were an innocent lookin person.
Exactly she admitted she was with Hannahs boyfriend and she said he was abusive through out the relationship. Also she admits that she would always get a cabin that she didn't feel safe camping why the fuck would u say no if u have been in that same situation?!
Right?! If my friend tells me she’s legitimately scared of her sleeping situation, girrrl you spooning with me tonight even if it means we’re both sleeping on the floor or in the tub! She had some TERRIBLE friends!!!
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i dont believe that none of her friends didn't know she left. especially the guy who she shared a hammock with. her getting up would of definitely woke him up
Those “friends” definitely did it. Probably took her keys so she couldn’t leave Bc they were planning to do something to her. There would have been so many more injuries to her body if she fell, plus it is so unlikely she would be floating. Such a beautiful girl and such a tragic story.
I think they planned to kill Lauren previous to the festival, they invited her to come knowing their intentions, the fact that they told Lauren they wore staying in a cabin because they know she probably wouldn’t have come if she knew she was going to have to camp in an unsafe environment. There was no actual reason they had to invite Lauren, like Lauren’s mum said they weren’t close and Hannah asked Lauren to do things when it was convenient to her I personally believe that Hannah invited Lauren so Aaron could kill her, no normal human beings would carry on parting and having fun at a festival when there friend has just died a day previous also i find it strange how they didn’t alert people straight away when they woke up and Lauren was missing, it’s unlikely that Lauren would have traveled by herself across the river to the festival or with people she didn’t know. Poor poor girl, this case definitely needs to be re opened. Rip Lauren
Mia Jay I 100% agree with everything you just said! it all seems a bit sketchy and it’s so sad that police and other detectives and investigators didn’t look further into this and just ruled it as an accidental death even though all the test dummies proved that it isn’t possible. It’s so heartbreaking that her mum had a bad feeling about the whole trip and about the people she was going with and then this happens. Makes it all so much worse that none of them even went to the funeral guilty or not :(( (nice name by the way ❤️)
I think it was premeditated as well... to me with all the videos I watched it seems like maybe she was invited with sexual intentions, as sick as it sounds, a three way or some sorts? I hate to say that but that's the only motive I could come up with that is consistent with the "bruising", outside of one of them just being a plain psychopath of course
They didn’t plan to kill her beforehand, and everyone who knows Aaron and Chris personally, knows that accusation is ridiculous. I went to HHS with them. Chris is a harmless dude that just smokes pot and rides motorcycles and Aaron is the nicest guy ever and would never hurt a fly. The media has blown this shit out of proportion and now a bunch of internet detectives think they know exactly what happened and that there was some kind of sinister plot by Hannah, Aaron and Chris to kill Lauren. There is absolutely no reason why they would kill her. NONE. Ask anyone from Hendersonville, TN aside from her mother what they think happened to Lauren and they will tell you she got too drunk and fell of the cliff. Lauren partied ALOT, and everyone from our town knows this fact aside from you people who heard about this case from the media and think she’s just some innocent girl that got murdered by her friends that hated her. They didn’t hate her, they all got really drunk that day/night, stumbled up to their cliffside campsite and passed out. They woke up the next morning thinking that Lauren probably went and crashed with some other friends since she wasn’t too keen on sleeping in an eno with Chris, when in fact she probably got disoriented and took a bad fall into the lake at some point. You people want this to be some unsolved mystery when it’s not. It’s very straightforward. None of her friends killed her. She got drunk and fell into the water. End of story. RIP Lauren.
Sometimes rental cabins have a limit of people allowed in it. Ofc most people would ignore that rule because you probably wouldn't get caught. But if you break rules like that in some situations they kick you out of the cabin and you don't get your money back.
I think that the festival brings in money to the town. So they ruled it an accident to avoid bad publicity. Not everyone camps. Some people get hotels and spend money in the town. So maybe the cops realized that, and covered it up. This case just seems too suspicious to be immediately called an accident.
Yes! That's exactly what I have wondered as well. There could have been pressure from the festival and the surrounding area because they don't want to lose money. Terribly sad. 😖 Although even more likely than the police being pressured to do a cover up, would probably be the Coroner/Medical Examiner. Although anyone in the right position could have had pressure put on them. I have looked into this case a lot, and I have *never* even come close to being able to see it as an accident. On top of that the 3 people she was with were *_extremely_* suspicious, and still remain that way even after the 2 of them moved to Florida together. It's all just so strange, and I feel terrible for her mother and the rest of her family.
The Canoe bruising could have happened while the Canoe is on land. My guess is that she was SA when she got the bite mark and was choked until she passed out. If there was a bite mark on her chest, the SA would have had to been a face to face. You can't bite someone's chest if you're behind them. If so, they may have pinned her down on her back, using their knees to press down on her thighs which would explain the bruising there. When she passed out from the choking, the person who SA her in a drunk and panicked train of thought, believed that they killed her and dragged her through the woods/tossed her down the hill (where she got her scrapes and bruises) and then they threw her limp body onto the docked canoe (when the canoe was docked/pulled up on shore) where she got her canoe bruise and possibly her broken nose. If the person "hugged" her body from behind to stand her up and then tossed her forward into the canoe, then she would have landed face first, hard and probably wouldn't have made it all the way into the canoe. The bruising placement seems to fit that. The person then paddled out to the other cove while she was unconscious and dumped the body... Lauren had no chance of surviving being well drunk, exhausted, beaten and unconscious and died from drowning. She was not conscious at the time so she didn't gasp for air, she just breathed normally explaining the fact no water was found in her lungs. That is my best guess. I'd love to hear your thoughts as well.
Honestly it’s so confusing how her other friend can turn her down like that, she herself said she would never camp there ever again so why let one of your friends do it? Who cares if the cabin is full I’m sure there would have been a way for her to stay.
To be fair I get where your coming from but it was only someone she went to school with years ago I think she was in her 20s when she got murdered so if someone u haven’t saw or spoke to in years and u weren’t really close with at school came up and asked if they could stay with you, and u didn’t have enough space of course u would turn them down because it’s not like they thought she would get murdered. I’m not saying anything bad towards you or anything just saying what I think
@@ciarasmith6256 her decision to not let her stay could have been something to do with the ex, she might have thought he would have been around, not staying with them but perhaps during the day drinking with them etc (since Lauren and him were initially staying together). Obviously given their past she wouldn't want to be anywhere near him and decided to not let her stay to prevent him being anywhere near.
Yeah it hasn’t been mentioned in this video yet that Cassie was the ex of the girl Lauren was there with. They had a very abusive relationship and it didn’t end well, that’s I think why she didn’t want to get involved, also it might not have been Cassie’s place to say yes without asking everyone else.
Cleatis Tolbert even with dry drowning there is water in your lungs, you just aren't submerged in water when it happens, hence "dry". you cannot drown without water in your lungs
@@lovergirl5013 actually, dry drowning is when your throat is irritated due to inhaling water and causes it to close meaning no water enters the lungs and it prevents breathing as the throat doesn't reopen. You can sharply inhale water, get out of the pool, and then still dry drown. The water caused the initial throat closure and inability to breathe meaning it is still death by drowning.
I will never shut up about how perfectly the front of her eyebrows matches her roots, and the tail of the eyebrows perfectly match her ends. Like why is the color so perfect?? Why is she so perfect??? What are you looking so good for?!
1. Aaron was an abusive boyfriend. 2. All three were very frantic with the stories they made. 3. Chris and Aaron we're talking about taking an officer's gun 4. She had BRUISES and a BITEMARK. If she had fallen into the rocks below there would be a Significant amount of damage. 5. There was no water in her lungs at All when they discovered her body. 6. Her clothes had completely Changed from last night and she wore a fresh tampon when she wasn't on her menstrual cycle. 7. The three main suspects had posted a picture of the three of them online with a caption stating "best weekend ever" when a friend of theirs had Died. And they didn't go to her funeral. If police don't reopen the damn case. I'll be shocked at how stupid they can be.
You can literally ignore every other very clear sign that says that those three murdered her, because the only thing you really need to focus on is the fact that they were all posting pictures on social media after she was murdered titled "BEST WEEKEND EVER!" That right there tells you that they killed that girl! No sane person would ever post something like that after a girl that they were spending the weekend with was found murdered during their trip.
I think that she was sexually assaulted. Especially of what the ex girlfriend of Arron said. That he was really abusive towards her and he would leave marks along with *bite marks* . I mean that has to stand out. And for the victim to have what seemed of those type of marks makes him look really guilty. Plus if she did drown, how did she not sink. If the drowning didn't happen that way, how did she get to the cove. Then when police were going to her, they saw Arron going the exact way. And since she had a tampon in, police don't think she might've been raped? Like you said, this guy might've put in a tampon to look like she wasn't raped. Plus how tf do the investigators think she changed clothes. I think Arron sexually assaulted her, suffocated her, and then put her in the cove so he could get the right material or take her to a place where he figured out what to do with her and that's why he was seen canoeing towards her direction knowing it was her before anybody was even alerted that she was found dead. Like that would seem SUPER suspicious If you ask me. When the cop was in the boat with them and overheard them talking. They were defiantly talking super suspiciously. Like planning to steal his gun. Like I think it wasn't drowning and something actually happened that night.
I feel as if the police that were assigned to this case didn't really pay much attention to the smaller details. They just assumed because they didn't feel like going more in depth into the case. So disappointing. It literally is in front of them.
And once the case was declared an accident, the 3 of them merrily, without a care enjoyed the festival. I'm sure it was the two boys and the girl helped them cover it up.
Always trust your gut instincts!!! There is a reason why mother’s feel this way. I’ve actually seen a lot of cases where the mother felt like something was wrong, but let them go. (They are adults are ultimately will do what they want) Just remember that your parents have been around for a lot longer and they usually say no to things out of love. They just want you to be safe. So next time your parents say no to something remember it’s probably in your best interest. Their number one job is to protect you. It took me becoming a mother to see that. I honestly thought my parents were just being mean (they were super strict) They just wanted to keep me safe. Even though I didn’t see it that way.
This happened to me as a teen. I just turned 18 and i wanted to go to a rave with this girl i didnt hang out with normally. my mom kept telling me it was a bad idea and she had a bad feeling about the girl but i went anyways. I ended up being left in the industrial part of the city by myself at 3am. I was terrified. Thankfully my mom always made sure i knew if i was in a bad situation i could call her, so i did. If she hadnt picked me up that night i wouldnt have known what to do or how to get home. Who knows what could have happened. Im almost 25 now and if my mom has a bad feeling about something i avoid the situation. Listen to your parents kids. They just want you to be safe.
Someone needs to contact that family for another petition I would happily sign that because those 3 individuals are literally getting away with murder.
This case infuriates me!! Ive been following it for a while now through her pi’s podcast. Chris, Aaron and Hannah are definitely guilty of her murder.. they just got away with it and it makes me so mad because its obvious the police in charge of this case didn’t know what they were doing and completely threw it away. I hope they’re able to still get justice for Lauren. She deserves so much more than this.
Also can we talk about her 'friend' who knew how dangerous it was on that campsite, and knew how violent the dude was and still said 'we don't have room in our cabin' WELL MAKE ROOM Edit:I think you mean this video in the bar you couldn't find: ua-cam.com/video/gYYYA6VthE4/v-deo.html at 5:09
The comment section is so pure here ❤️ I wish everybody had friends as great as y’all. I’m not dead but some shit could’ve been avoided if I had decent friends Like you guys In High School ❤️
@@limitlesslaney Same girlie. My friends once left me in the city center outside in the middle of the night with a dead phone because no one 'had room' in their house, or their parents didn't allow it. My mom slapped one of them in the face, it was great. I'm so glad I got rid of these cunts.
It was all three of the “friends”. The person in her hammock killed her. Hannah provides the clothes and Hannah’s boyfriend was going to move the body. Also I know this is a year later.
Also why didn’t they even check to see if those clothes belonged to her friend. They had to come from somewhere if they weren’t hers. There HAD to be a girl involved. Also because men don’t know how tampons work.
@@kendalbrenneman while I do think Hannah was involved, a guy could have done this alone. But I think all 3 of them did it while drunk and then lied about it.
It had to have been at least one of them, most likely chris. How could she have gotten out of the hammock in the middle of the night without waking him up? getting out of a hammock causes it to move a lot. he absolutely knew something else about that night. no way he slept through that
I usually can’t watch unsolved mysteries because I hate not knowing what happened to the person (it fucks me up) but if it’s one of your videos then I’ll deal with it x
this case annoys me so much the people that investigated this case all need to be *FIRED* her friends were idiots for making them stay in a hammock laying over a 9 feet drop
This is such a gut-wrenching and frustrating case. I definitely suspect her so called "friends." What horrible individuals they all are. And that cop was totally useless. Sometimes I really hate LE, the stupid, lazy sods.
@@azuradawn5683 Thanks I will try to fit that in - I have SO many podcasts and things going, many of which have useless LE involved. But I'm going to search that one out now.
i'm pretty sure it's because her video cant be taken down/blocked by youtube when she says it's for educational purposes or something so that's probably why, i think!!
A full cabin? Could she not have slept on a sofa? There is SO much wrong with this story it's infuriating. "She drowned." "But she had no water in her lungs?" "Yes well, she still drowned." "She has a bite mark on her chest." "Rocks." Like wtf?? I sincerely hope her family gets the truth.
I’m sure she could have even slept on the FLOOR if they’d let her, it may not be comfortable but it’d surely be better than sleeping on a hammock over a 90ft drop
I think the friends did it. You said Hannah only invited Lauren if it benefited her. Maybe she saw Lauren as a threat in some way. The reason they invited her was because it was quite hard to get to and had almost no security and there were so many ways to stage it as an accident x
I think Aaron or Chris (or possibly both) killed Lauren after propositioning sex, which she said no to. She had already made it clear she wanted to leave, and to consider driving home when she was drunk there must have been something seriously wrong. Then for them to continue at the festival as if nothing was wrong is awful. Was the tampon inserted correctly? If so, could Hannah have come up with the idea of the tampon to cover for her boyfriend? To make sure that a rape test was not performed? Could Hannah have inserted it herself? Not in a sexist way at all but I don't know many men, if any, that would be able to correctly insert a tampon.. they're fiddly if you don't know what you're doing.. I honestly don't believe this is an accident in any way. Awful for her family, I hope they get the justice they deserve x
Have you listened to the Without Warning podcast from PI Sheila Wysocki? There is even more shady things going on... 😳 what I mean is there are possibly more characters/suspects then just Chris and Aaron.
Ellie * With the tampon thing. I know a few girls that if they feel unsafe, or want to be prepared for festivals or a night out - they will insert a tampon. It’s less likely (in their mind) they will be raped etc. it’s a sort of ‘security’ for their mind. It could of been like that???
It disgusts me that they didn't gave a shit about a possible rape and anything envolving a man atacking her. She was so neglected just by beeing a girl
What’s sad is that Wakefest continues to go on after this. I live right outside Smithville and it’s so terrible seeing everyone have fun and be happy in the place where this poor girl lost her life. Also Aaron and Hannah just got married and had a baby....
I feel like Lauren’s death was plotted. Hear me out. She says that Lauren’s mom noticed that Hannah was never really a “Friend” yo Lauren because she would only talk to her when she needed something and that they were never really close. I feel like Hannah was jealous of Lauren Bc she was really out going and she saw that she would’ve had a bright future. So she plotted this hole thing. First they were going to get her drunk so she would be weaker and more defenseless against an attacker. Then they would take her to the cove on the canoe. And that is when Hannah would begin to hit her eventually causing her nose to break, and since she was drunk her balance was off she , she might’ve stood up and tried to fight back but Hannah maybe pushed her causing her to fall on her fingers thus causing them to break. After Hannah took all her rage out on Lauren she decided to finish off what she started , so she strangled her. Once she was finished she made Chris and Arron take care of the body, maybe Chris had taken a liking to Lauren when they met and had told Arron. Knowing this Arron went to the canoe with Hannah, and left Chris alone with Lauren, he would then rape her and ask Hannah for a tampon that they had brought. Thus making it seem like she wasn’t raped.
Ikr! This is what I was thinking too. They purposely went across the river so they could go on with their plan. The one thing that doesn't make sense is that Aaron is her boyfriend, so why would he be fine with them killing her off?
This is why I'm going into a criminology degree and hopefully into detective investigation. I 99% believe this is a homicide case - the bruises and scratches alone point to that and especially the bra and clothing situation! Personally I believe the police did not want to rule this case as a homicide as it would've deterred people from going to the festival and therefore less money for the town. For most officers cases are simply competitions and want to find an easy explanation and I truly find it disgusting. False justice should not be a prize.
Those three people don`t even deserve to be called her friends. What I find very weird is the fact they continued partying for few more days till the end of festival. If they killed her accidentally, or even if they didn`t like her they would have at least some kind of emotion or at least feels stressed or scared. But just continue like nothing happened seems to me like it was all planned before and it was calculated cold murder. Lauren, rest in peace, hope her family will at least get some answers.
Ok but am I the only one that was seriously thrown off because she changed her disclaimer? I'm strangely attached to these stupid disclaimers bUT HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY IT WITH HER NOW
"The bite mark was an injury she sustained falling down."
Oh yes because mountains and rocks bite now.
SageSeeker lmaooo, ikr 😬!
r u fucking stupid? of course they do.
SageSeeker I’m desd💀😂
Maybe it looked like a bite mark, but it wasn't.
@@miriamllamas224, HUH?
The scariest part of all these videos is the mom ALWAYS. Have a bad feeling MOTHERS INTUITION
Beauty By Julia always trust mothers intuition
I was your 1000th like wow
Beauty By Julia that’s why I listen to my mom whenever she says stuff like that
Is this why we are scared of our mother
It’s always the “gut feeling” always listen to that gut feeling
smells like a cover up tbh, i wouldnt be surprised if one of those "friends" has a cop father, or a politician mom or whatever.
💯💯💯
I thought the same. One of them probably has a family member that's a cop
yeah that’s exactly what i thought
Also the fact they were at a big festival means they may have also been concerned about negatively affecting tourism in the area.
They would most likely have to be higher in the ranks than just a cop your average cop has zero power on cases like this. It’s more down to the department itself on what decisions are made and how much effort is put into cases not a single cop unless that cop was closely associated to a higher ranked member
wasnt her clothes?? sharing a hammock with someone she doesn't know?? had a tampon in when she wasn't on her period?? bite mark?? no water in the lungs? in the water where she could NOT of fallen herself?? Aaron knows that Laurens body was in the water? not enough bruises and scratches. 90FT DROP. SHE WOULD BE BLACK AND BLUE.
none of the friends attended the funeral??
"best weekend ever"
not even a rape test?
very very sketchy. a girl DEFINITELY helped. a girl put the clothes on her and found a bra that fit her. they would know and put the tampon in her to stop police thinking she was assaulted?? and what boy knows how to put a tampon in??
facts.
@Coco the Cat haha i didnt think about it like that. sorry for offending you if i did i was just stating that not alot of girls know how to put one in let alone a boy. i was just saying that's its very sketchy and that a girl must've helped haha. didn't mean to offend u if i did x
@Coco the Cat you mean trans men???? Ftm is a term for trans men.
Either way, yeah i agree. I dont think most cismen know how vaginas work.
YES THIS IS SO MESSED UP
@@josukehigashikata5397 what does it mean in regards to trans men? I’ve only ever seen that mean first time mum
Just found out the case is being reopened! Let justice be served
Crows - B4 - Hoes yes you should check out the podcast about the case by the private investigator, it’s all happening now. The podcast is Without Warning by Sheila Wysocki....so interesting
So good to hear. Hope justice will finally be served.
saddly I don't think they will be able to prove anything unless one of the "friends" talk
Does the reopening of the case need signatures?
What sucks is that they didn’t take the rape kit or try to get DNA. It’s gonna be a lot harder to solve the case now. 🤦🏾♀️
If she fell 90 feet she would have broken bones and more bruises
amanda johnson The_Love_ Therapist but it was on water so maybe she just fell near the rocks and got bruises like that but idk
Maimelløu yes but they did tests and they all landed on rocks
yes i agree but at the same time it was on water and she was intoxicated and stuff always hurts less when your not sober
@@ariannabowman3077 It doesn't matter if it "hurts" less, you still will break bones.You don't get drunk and suddenly become immune to injuries, otherwise, I'd have a lot less than I have historically gotten. And honestly? If you can legally drive a car at .08 and she was only at .16, that is barely that drunk.
@@cwolff27 What about the documentary with a man who survived a tornado attack when he was knocked unconscious and thrown up in the air. While unconscious, his bones were able to evenly distribute the force and while he was sore, no major damage had been done. Now that was a single case of course, but it does not erase the credibility of bones sustaining damaging.
Bruising, yes, there would definitely be more if she had fallen. It's inevitable. You can bruise without breaking a bone. But if you break a bone, there has to be bruising.
this poor girl had no real friends.
Aaron is a high suspect, i think all three are involved, chris probably helped dispose the body.
I agree, if they were in a hammock together surely he would’ve felt the movement of someone taking her or her moving, they need to investigate this further
Do You know VIXX?
I think that too.
@@emmajayne_3018 he might be a deep sleeper but I see your point
I mean how else did Aaron know where she was in the water before one the police got there and two before really anyone knew someone was there expect for the fishermen...
Pretty messed up that her other “friend” didn’t let Lauren stay in the cabin with her. Sleeping on the floor would’ve been better than sleeping on a hammock over the river. Especially since she said she felt unsafe when she stayed there, and especially that Lauren was there with her violent ex-bf!
yes the fact that she knew who she was staying with makes it really sad that she didnt let her stay in the cabin
I would imagine the floor space was probably full up as well, but I imagine too that this friend feels so guilty now even if there was nothing she could have done differently.
I thought the same , I’d be wrecked with guilt if I was her
@@audreycarys9020 fr violent ex should have been a. Hint oh let me ask my freind if she wants to sleep. In the cabin with me away from her crazy ex this is exactly why my freind group. Is small. Just with two people
Yessir
Cases like these aren’t really “unsolved” they just are too lazy to take actual action to find out
Not lazy just corrupted.
what if the police were paid off or something like that. it’s really ridiculous the amount of proof against her “friends” it’s hard to believe they thought it was just “accidental” without some kind of set up
when your scared to use tampoons: tHanK yOu :D aNoThEr rEasOn tHaT i sHouLdNt uSe eM :D
The police are corrupt, wouldn't be surprised if they were paid off
The accuracy, 😂
Hammocks swings so much at just the slightest movement so if Chris and Lauren were sharing a hammock Chris would have woken up when Lauren got out or was taken out.
I think that as much as that thing you said is true, he could have probably been too drunk to wake up
That's a good point, he would have had to felt her get up
Exactly!
I'd probably say that unless he was blackout drunk, he has something to do with this death, he was pretty much glued to her body.
True and when the hammock tipped and she fell out, either he would fall too, or he would get tangled up in the hammock and proberbly wake up.
"best weekend ever"
they totally killed her. and if they didn't, they are incredibly heartless.
Pretty well proves guilt right there and the IP address. If they didn't do anything why trash Lauren's memory. As a Mother, I would never rest till I got them. Poor Lauren, her intuition was going off and her fate was not one she chose. Heartbreaking case.
I like your pfp
Idk how to change mine 💀💀💀
@@allie4119 thanks I've had it ages but still makes me chuckle. I think you just have to change the picture in your google account in settings :)
It's obvious that the three of them killed her.
1. Lauren wanted to go home. She probably didn't feel safe.
2. How can two people sleep in one of those hammocks? Even if they can, why would Lauren? Also How could Lauren climb out of it without waking up the guy? Hammocks move A LOT.
3. Those people continued at the festival even after finding out about their "friend's" death. Not to mention that they called it "The best weekend".
4. They didn't attend her funeral.
5. Mean comments traced to them.
6. The injuries.
7. The dummies didn't reach the water when dropped from the cliff.
8. Lauren was floating, her lungs had no water.
9. Abusive and violent behaviour of one of the guy.
10. Lauren's body was too far and in the opposite direction of the campsite.
These many coincidences is not a coincidence.
Exactly, and I've seen a few comments about how her tampon was in and I highly doubt that Lauren would have just had one on and if she didn't and it was put there on purpose I doubt a. Man would know how to properly put one in so I had to have been the other girl on the trip. So we know for sure that she was involved in some way
The police are so stupid
I agree they probably killed her in her sleep/strangled her and throw it away far away from the place and definitely a planed murder cz they even go overnight in other place
@@saoirseharry5160 omg yes the other girl friend probably put it in just so police or anything don't find out she was raped or something
@@kalyani2443 I agreeee
How can it be accidental drowning with no water in her lungs frustrates me so much
It can't be drowning if there is no water in her lungs. So I wonder if that was actually mentioned on the medical report? There was no water in her lungs?
Jesus Take the wheel hahahaha am I right?
Dry drowning, no water enters the lungs as the throat becomes irritated and closes preventing air and water from entering the lungs.
Jen Pickering you learn something new every day thanks for filling me in 🙂
Even so dry drowning and secondary drowning usually happen when someone exists the water. This girl was raped, murdered, and thrown into the water. I honestly think Hannah did it along with at least one of the guys. Idk why, but I don’t know any guy that would think of finding a bra that relatively fit her AND thought to use a tampon to deter investigators from looking into sexual assault. Whoever was the medical examiner in this case was an absolute idiot
It makes me SO angry that the police are so useless in these situations.
Right? People are always like "wow serial killers are so smart", and it's like no, they're usually average, but the police bungle the case so badly that they get away with their crimes
Willa Hladun exactly!! when watching these videos i find it so easy to connect the dots
@@user-ml3wk5ql1v you can't arrest someone just with "dots".
I know, it’s stupid! Bite marks from falling down? And not trying to match her friends teeth to the bite mark...
Tik Tok its hard to do, its complicated, its not really exact. Many people were framed for this, so, its not that of a forensic tool police use.
A woman helped cover this up. A woman would know how to find a bra that fit her convincingly. A woman would have a tampon and know how to insert it. A woman would have extra clothes that would fit her. I don’t know if it was her “friend” or not, but a woman was involved.
must’ve been her “mate”
@Jenna Garcia The Cuban Correction: Everyone should look out for each other.
Maddie Joy I thought about that. Especially with the tampon. It seems there was prior knowledge involved that very few guys have
soooo true
@@thestellastuff7521 but like you said only *few* men don't have that knowledge. There could be a man involved that knew how to do all the women stuff
youve heard of the hills have eyes, now get ready for: the cliffs have teeth
underrated comment 🤣
I'm I'm dying I can't 😂😂😂😭
Get ready for volcanos have ears
Oh lord...i am only starting this but I can't wait to see what this means
Oh man...smh
No sane person puts a tampon in just incase, have you ever pulled one of those things out dry? Its hell
So true
preach
I have but mainly because I was getting cramps and it was around that time
Lol .yeah just like walking about with a condom on thinking..ye Neve know..👌
I do lol
Her 3 “friends “ did it ..
Best weekend ever huh
I hope they open her case again and gets justice that’s just sad
Someone in the comments said that case is opened again..
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Literally EVERYTHING about this case is suspicious.
The police should’ve compared Aaron’s teeth shape to the shape of the bite mark.
RIGHT THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING
thats exactly what i said
yup, too bad the police are either 1) lazy, or 2) corrupt. or both.
bite marks are actually realy bad for evidence, tbite mark comparisons arent and shouldnt be used for evidence. there was this one murder case where they wrongfully convicted someone bc of a bite mark, he spent 40 years in prison until they found out he wasnt the killer. they shouldve done a rape kit for sure though. and maybe look for his dna on the bite mark
@@ghost-vk9hu all I know is there could’ve been more done to case
This is why we need more female detectives.
This is why we need more competent detectives.
Countess Damara yes you are right
Trust me, female detectives can be pretty heartless too.
My male roommate and I have a female friend who one night was sexually assaulted and harassed while crossing a bridge in the city. She called my roommate, who at the time wasn't living with me yet, and he convinced her to go to the police and make a report. She was too uncomfortable to go alone, so he went with her. It was late at night so there were very few detectives still in the station and they got two female detectives. You would think great right? Two females will understand what I just went through. NOOOOOO. One detective was cold and heartless, asked her what she was wearing to provoke it, did she come on to the guy, was she currently sleeping with anyone, was she even currently sleeping with my friend who had gone with her to make the report, the detective even hit on my male roommate while they were there!!!
THEN came the worst bit, they found a case file from a few years before that showed where our female friend had called and reported an intruder in her house. At the time, the police had taken so long to get there that the person was long gone. And they accused her of making a false report and said next time she did that that they'd sue her. So I guess the report was already negative. So these bitchy female detectives pull out the case file and say ohhhhh I see here you've reported a false case before. Was this "assault" on the bridge part of your imagination too?
I mean cmonnnnnn I've never heard such a horror story in my life when my roommate told me about this. No wonder people don't report things. It's not a court room you have to worry about, it's the bloody detectives taking down your account!!!
Munkastrap4 i- im so so sorry that happened to her. thats so shocking and theres so many things wrong there i dokt know what to say. how is your friend doing now? i hope shes coping with those experiences
I think she's happy with our support and that we always believe in her.
But it would put you off reporting things wouldn't it?
I can't understand why they didn't try matching the 3 "friends" teeth to the bite mark she had
Ghost O.O it’s not an exact science. People have been falsely accused for that before, so they no longer consider it to be a proper forensic identification tool 🤷🏼♀️.
It's hard to do. The only reason they could match Ted bundy to the bite marks of the sorority girls was because he had a very distinct bite with crooked teeth. If all three had normal teeth you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them.
Ghost O.O sorry but bite mark analysis is never going to work
Headhotdog Robert lee Stinson?
They never tried because they ruled it as accidental falling.
I'm not being funny, but does nobody realise how difficult it is to get out of a hammock? If Lauren fell, or even tried to leave, surely the guy she was in the hammock with would have felt it, or woken up?
I guess you've never been passed out drunk and/or drugged.
@@taylorcunningham2594 I feel like if she fell off he would've fallen too or at least woken up on the ground
It is actually easier to get out of a hammock when someone is in it because the second person serves as an anchor
He might of thought she went to the toilet or something
exactly
Everyone needs a friend like Cassie.
Lauren: we’re camping on the cliff but I don’t want to
Cassie: I’d never stay there again I didn’t feel safe the whole time.
Lauren: can I stay with you please?
Cassie: no.
Wasn’t she also the one who dated Lauren’s boyfriend Aaron and said he was abusive?? Lauren had some real terrible “friends.”
@@ava130 yep, she was
She didn't say no, she said they were full......
@@ava130 *Hannah’s boyfriend, Lauren had her boyfriend back home
@@minakoaino7043 then sleep on the damn floor or find another cabin.
The most suspicious part to me is that none of these "friends" stopped going to the festival even though Lauren had died, and not a single one of them went to her funeral. Even if you don't really like one of your friends, you still pay respects, especially in those circumstances.
Ikr like even the “friend” in the hammock with her. Those things move ALOT when someone moves a tiny bit in them so for him not to wake up or feel someone getting out of a hammock doesn’t seem right to me
And you deffinatly don't claim it to be the best weekend ever.
Exactly they claim friends enough for her to be willing to share a hammock but carry on partying and then to say best weekend ever. They are dodgy as all get out.
So true. A family friend died last year, and although he and I really didn't see eye to eye, I still attended his wake out of respect for him...
right personally I would have gotten the hell outta there when I knew someone CLOSE to me died, and not going to her funeral is just fucked up, shows how much they cared.
Imagine the guilt her mom feels for letting her go. 😭
Fuck Billie eyelash
tia gallagher are you okay dude-
@@patstigious857 what does her/his profile pic have to do with this case
eye lish or the friend who didn’t pick her up 😕
Honey She was already 18 her mom couldn't stop her
Its so sad that the last people Lauren was with were people who didnt seem to care about her at all.
Fatima that Chris guy obviously did because he was the one out looking for her while the two others carried on partying. I would be pressuring the holy shit out of him. Eventually they crack and help solve the case, even if it is decades later... unless they have no soul that is.
Dear anyone who has friends:
Imagine you and a small group of your friends are at a fun little festival. Suddenly, one of your friends literally *dies* - and let's say that for sure, you're all innocent. None of you had anything to do with their death, right? Would you be able to continue on partying at this festival? Would you be mentally sound, mentally stable enough, to stay where your friend had just died? And even if you were, how could you feel safe after something like that? Especially if the most believable, most likely scenario was foul play, how could you continue to stay somewhere where, very likely, a homicide- and of your FRIEND- just took place?
I call bs. #JusticeForLaurenAgee
If i had friends and one died during us attending a festival
No I couldn’t stay I’d go home
And I couldn’t attend the funeral not because I don’t care,I’d be traumatized and get even more depressed
I definitely wouldn’t feel safe if I stayed. I’d be overly paranoid
@@relent-lass7510 Exactly. Even if it wasn't someone I was super close with, that's a very traumatic ordeal to experience and go through. I know everyone deals with grief differently, but for all 3 of them to act like they never gave a shit, even with the possibility that there could be a murderer at this festival, is beyond suspicious to me. Either way, I hope this case gets closed soon for her family. ❤️
@@mitsukunisen6709 she trusted her ‘friends’
@@mitsukunisen6709 I certainly wouldn’t go back, it’s just a reminder of what happened
@@relent-lass7510 Same, dude, I'd be scarred for life after something like that
her poor mom :( mothers intuition is always right
The thing is women have such good intuition! Always believe your gut if it says something is iffy! My bestfriend was smoking pot(which she’s done before just not with these two) with two boys, she asked for water both boys went upstairs and when they gave her the water she took a drink and her gut told her to get out of there, she had a panic attack which they say happens when your date rape drugged, she left the house and sat in her car and had her mom pick her up, she threw up in the car, passed out when she got home, me and her did research and her systems were those of the date rape drug GHB (I think) so I always say follow your gut and if u drink something and feel weird after, get out of there!!!!
@@lilmonstersmakeup5145 that's so terrifying, i'm glad she listened to her gut and got out of there in time
Sooo true! I see this in ALOT of cases.. where the mother had a bad feeling and it ended up she was right . So sad 😞
Ikr my heart goes out to her
That is so true... 😞
I got chills when you said he posted a picture saying “best weekend ever”.... terrifying
This definitely wasn’t an accident, this is such an upsetting case
Its also so odd that they concluded that she had drown when she didnt even have water in her lungs??
@@set124 dry drowning is a thing it can be triggered by a teaspoon of water getting in the lungs. Same process as drowning just without water in the lungs
I feel that for all suspicious deaths there should always be a mandatory rape kit conducted just in case.
I totally agree
Nothing:
Police: *i GuEsS r0cKs BiTe NoW*
Nobody-
The mountains-yUmMy *bites*
Police are so stupid 😒 now this poor girl won't get proper justice
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The friends covered the crime up. There just isn’t enough evidence to prosecute. I know this case really well.
Angela Bordack it is really sad. Most of us have been in those situations where everything sounds fine and dandy until you’re stuck somewhere with some shady characters and shitty friends and try everything to get yourself out of that situation. Maybe not to this extreme, but relatable. I feel terrible for her family because they know those 3 know exactly what happened and at least one murdered her.
Mish mash Exactly!! Completely agree with you.
Same here. I am quarter way through the video. I've already heard new stuff that happened on the trip. Her friends suck! Sorry but if your friend needs a place to crash you make room knowing the spot she was going was dangerous. Also the group she slept with did it. The bruising on her body shaped as the pointed end of the canoe proves she was moved & the canoe was used.
Yep I agree - I know this case really well too.
I agree, I've looked into this case quite a bit and I've never been able to believe that it was an accident. Those 3 "friends" are *_extremely suspicious,_* and sadly I think they obviously did something to her and covered it up. I've wondered if Wakefest makes a lot of money, and also money for the surrounding area and there was a lot of pressure to find it as an accidental death. I don't know, but I feel terrible for family, especially her poor mother. 😖
the irony of lauren studying criminal justice though.
D Town it is ironic though.
Down Town she’s studying justice yet she got none
No, but I have put a tampon in and it came out with nothing on it even though I was previously bleeding
Cheyenne Guthrie wrong comment?
Lily bug I hope it is
“This man was named Chris Brown...”
Me: 👁👄👁
Sameee😭😭💀💀
LOLL
Yess that kinda “👁👄👁” me too
Yeah made you think of an actor...
@@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752 I thought of the rapper-
Karma is real and those three ‘friends’ will rot
Cleo careful what you say. Some people are innocent and you have no idea what the truth is, nor do you know what people are going through.
Lovely Lady well If they did nothing karma wouldn’t have to act would it?
@@aharper625 they were saying horrible things about laura and her death
And how do you know what they were saying? Did you hear it from their mouth? Is there a recording of it? Do you know them personally?
Lovely Lady if you speak ill of someone, for no reason, then karma will get you. How is this so hard to get?
I live on this lake and every time I go by that area, it gives me chills. No way it was an accident.
I feel the same
This case needs to be opened back up.. there is just too much evidence pointing towards sexual assault and sadistic shit. He must have came from behind her and bit her (or pushed her down the hill to get her in the canoe but maybe couldn’t get her all the way in) and attacked her got her on the ground with his knees pinning her down. Then after he couldn’t put her in the canoe gave up and left her in the water and was coming back to get her when the police told him to go. Idk that’s what I think could have happened but she also could have just been super drunk and felt down face first down that cliff thing.
i live not far away too. i havent been back to wake fest since this case. it freaks me out to even think about it
This is surely murder and the police to sorry to solve her case ... getting paid to do nothing..this girl deserve justice
Rest in Paradise Beautiful Mel.❤️❤️
Your mum knows your fake friends before you do :update: holy shit I got 1.2k likes I’m famous
I agree, they know best!
I hate that this is true, as well. My mum is really good at telling who’s being fake or not. She’s sniffed out two of mine so far and both predictions were correct, they stabbed me in the back.
Zainab Ahmed fr fr
Zainab Ahmed true :(
💯👌🏼 I have a 17yr old daughter and I tell her each time she brings someone around that I get a bad vibe from... needless to say, I’m always right lol
Lauren is from my hometown. Basically everyone that knows about this case doesn’t believe that it was an accident.
@Kelly psychic mediums have no merit and have been known to actually mislead a case. Regardless, I’m interested to know what new evidence has been introduced
Why dotn cops do shit it's disgusting but hey Chris got Karam he's handicapped in a wheel chair from water accident in the same area
For those of you who don't know, it has been known that there was actually 5 of them in a group. The 5th was a man name Brixner who has a history of violence and is said to be a generally violent man. There is no achonowledgement of him in any of the statements from the 3 in question. Its generally believed they covered his appearance as he left the camp the same morning Lauren was found.
Edit: Just read that not only did Brixner leave the camp that same morning, he left the entire state and hired himself a lawyer. HE IS THE PRIME SUSPECT FOR ME.
Brixner Gambell was 28 at the time... I bet he was that “older man” witnesses saw her with. Where did he sleep?
Wow! And do the cops even know about this guy?? Or did they really F this one up!!
@@fuqit88 I think they did, hell if the internet knew then they must. But it's all 1 big massive cover up from the start.
@@kieran8584 I meant at the time of the murder, not now lol!! I cannot see no one at the festival not mentioning him to police since these people were a five-some, not foursome. It amazes me these jokers could pull the wool over these cops eyes. This little bitch left the state and lawyered up before the body was cold! That sayez " hey....its me.....creepy older guy!!"
Oh wow !!!! You so called AMERICANS ain't shit.
Um. I dont know any girl who wears a tampon not on their period... that sounds sketch
nicole R very sketch
Some do its normal for a few different reasons
I don't personally but some do.
Hannah probably put it in
Omg I did in high school when I would black out a lot and it was a preventative measure so I wouldn't have sex and regret it the next day... yes it hurt like hell the next day taking it out but it always worked well for me
I definitely think all 3 friends were involved in the crime. Two of the reasons I especially believe a girl was involved is because 1.) Lauren was found in female clothes that weren't hers. It's highly unlikely that two guys at a festival would have had access to another female's clothing INCLUDING UNDERWEAR without that other female's consent. And 2.) The tampon that was found in Lauren's body. I have never heard of a guy using a tampon to cover up a sexual assault, and in my mind that's something only a female would think of.
It really sucks that the police have ruled this case an accident despite all of the contrasting evidence. It seems to me that maybe they don't want to handle all of the police work that would be involved in investigating a case with that many possible witnesses, but that's no excuse for shoddy police work. I really hope that the case gets re-opened so Lauren's family can gain some semblance of closure.
africkso it was reopened in Feb 8 2019 :)
@@azureazlon3947 Great to hear. I find it odd they can say, "Just an accident".
She just accidentally fell, changed into clothes she didn't have, then put in a tampon when she wasn't on her period.
I'd like to know if the damage to the clothes matched up with the damage on her body.
the gut feeling of the mom really breakes my heart
wearing a tampon when you're not on your period can be really uncomfortable and actually pretty dangerous, she wouldn't be wearing this for no reason.
True would be very painful
Exactly she could have gotten Toxic shock every girl knows about that risk even girls who don't wear tampons know about it. Plus if she thought she was due her period she could have taken medication to delay it? Because I'm pretty sure u can do it with the birth control pill pill and there's other medications that can as well.
most girls (that i know) have period trackers in their phones, if she had one then maybe they could've known if she was close to getting her period, if she wasn't then she wouldn't have used a tampon.
@@ac6155 those trackers are useless. Most women aren't that regular.
Nah dude, she put in the tampon to deter rape. 100%.
@@anonymoose116 definitely and if she thought she was going to get her period, the most obvious option would be to wear a pad because of the risk of TSS
Oh my god I can’t believe her friend didn’t let her stay in the cabin...if a friend (or even an obviously distressed stranger) told me they felt unsafe (and I know it’s unsafe) and wanted to stay in my cabin. Even if it was full I’d let them stay. I’d make them a bed on the floor or I’d push 2 beds together and 3 of us can get in it...damn you gotta look out for each other..especially at a festival 😢
Ikr friends mean everything
I agree with the especially at a festival bit, some parts of most festivals are really dodgy and I would hope my friends wouldn’t leave me to feel unsafe, especially if I hadn’t put myself in a unsafe situation on purpose. However, I imagine this girl’s guilt because of this will be enough punishment for a lifetime
I mean a friend is understandable I would try to make some space for him/her but a stranger...some people just benefit from others kindness who knows if that stranger would be the cause of your death...Always be cautious
Hannah Broadbeans that’s so true 😩😯
But what if it were a creepy ass dude, dressed in all black, looks sketchy, LOOKS LIKE A SERIAL KILLER, asked you "Hey, I feel very unsafe out here. Can I stay in your cabin/house just for this night?"
tho i do understand if it were an innocent lookin person.
The friends definitely did it.
Yep. "Best weekend ever"
I mean Cassie couldn't let her sleep on the floor in the cabin?!
For real 🙄
I thought the same thing. Like, she wasn't some random stranger.
right.
Exactly she admitted she was with Hannahs boyfriend and she said he was abusive through out the relationship. Also she admits that she would always get a cabin that she didn't feel safe camping why the fuck would u say no if u have been in that same situation?!
Right?! If my friend tells me she’s legitimately scared of her sleeping situation, girrrl you spooning with me tonight even if it means we’re both sleeping on the floor or in the tub! She had some TERRIBLE friends!!!
I kinda wish Lauren got hurt jumping off that cliff but.. I don’t mean it in a bad way she would of went to hospital and possibly of been safe 😔
XxTimelessxX it’s so tragic😭
Yeah, just enough to decide to go home. Poor girl.
I was thinking the same thing. Then she could have gone to the hospital and her mom could have come and got her.
XxTimelessxX I don’t think she did fall down
I know! Then her mum would have been able to have her daughter back. God it’s horrible
Thanks Eleanor!! I've never had my case chosen before!! I've been in bed poorly so this was a lovely suprise to wake up to!!
@@BOO-sy2oz Aww sorry to hear that! I hope you feel better in time for Christmas. Thanks 😊
Hope you get well soon!! All my love x
@@EleanorNeale Thanks beautiful! 😊💕
@@EleanorNeale All I want to say about this vid is that it is AMAZING. But. You say sorry WAY too much. You are a truly amazing and committed youtuber and I respect that. People love and respect you and you saying sorry this much makes me feel that you doubt yourself. But I just wanted to let you know that we will always respect and love you. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Is it me... OR CAN ANYONE SEE A PICTURE OF ELEANOR, NEXT TO LEA MARTINS YOTUBE NAME?
i dont believe that none of her friends didn't know she left. especially the guy who she shared a hammock with. her getting up would of definitely woke him up
Didnt she say her other friend was in the hammock and Lauren stayed in the 2 man tent
amelia no Lauren stayed in the hammock
I don't think she went to sleep! Those 3 were charged
Those “friends” definitely did it. Probably took her keys so she couldn’t leave Bc they were planning to do something to her. There would have been so many more injuries to her body if she fell, plus it is so unlikely she would be floating. Such a beautiful girl and such a tragic story.
I think they planned to kill Lauren previous to the festival, they invited her to come knowing their intentions, the fact that they told Lauren they wore staying in a cabin because they know she probably wouldn’t have come if she knew she was going to have to camp in an unsafe environment. There was no actual reason they had to invite Lauren, like Lauren’s mum said they weren’t close and Hannah asked Lauren to do things when it was convenient to her I personally believe that Hannah invited Lauren so Aaron could kill her, no normal human beings would carry on parting and having fun at a festival when there friend has just died a day previous also i find it strange how they didn’t alert people straight away when they woke up and Lauren was missing, it’s unlikely that Lauren would have traveled by herself across the river to the festival or with people she didn’t know. Poor poor girl, this case definitely needs to be re opened. Rip Lauren
Mia Jay
I 100% agree with everything you just said! it all seems a bit sketchy and it’s so sad that police and other detectives and investigators didn’t look further into this and just ruled it as an accidental death even though all the test dummies proved that it isn’t possible. It’s so heartbreaking that her mum had a bad feeling about the whole trip and about the people she was going with and then this happens. Makes it all so much worse that none of them even went to the funeral guilty or not :((
(nice name by the way ❤️)
Hannah’s bf apparently had a thing for Lauren before hand ? So that would make sense
I think it was premeditated as well... to me with all the videos I watched it seems like maybe she was invited with sexual intentions, as sick as it sounds, a three way or some sorts? I hate to say that but that's the only motive I could come up with that is consistent with the "bruising", outside of one of them just being a plain psychopath of course
They didn’t plan to kill her beforehand, and everyone who knows Aaron and Chris personally, knows that accusation is ridiculous. I went to HHS with them. Chris is a harmless dude that just smokes pot and rides motorcycles and Aaron is the nicest guy ever and would never hurt a fly. The media has blown this shit out of proportion and now a bunch of internet detectives think they know exactly what happened and that there was some kind of sinister plot by Hannah, Aaron and Chris to kill Lauren. There is absolutely no reason why they would kill her. NONE. Ask anyone from Hendersonville, TN aside from her mother what they think happened to Lauren and they will tell you she got too drunk and fell of the cliff. Lauren partied ALOT, and everyone from our town knows this fact aside from you people who heard about this case from the media and think she’s just some innocent girl that got murdered by her friends that hated her. They didn’t hate her, they all got really drunk that day/night, stumbled up to their cliffside campsite and passed out. They woke up the next morning thinking that Lauren probably went and crashed with some other friends since she wasn’t too keen on sleeping in an eno with Chris, when in fact she probably got disoriented and took a bad fall into the lake at some point. You people want this to be some unsolved mystery when it’s not. It’s very straightforward. None of her friends killed her. She got drunk and fell into the water. End of story. RIP Lauren.
Definitely seems premeditated considering they way that they acted after
How was the cabin full?? There has to be a couch?? Or space on the floor??
Twenty One Pilots Falling Out At The Disco true
Twenty One Pilots Falling Out At The Disco exactly! All the “friends” in this case are absolute garbage
Maybe this isn’t the right time but hello clikkie
bath time tyler ||-//
Sometimes rental cabins have a limit of people allowed in it. Ofc most people would ignore that rule because you probably wouldn't get caught. But if you break rules like that in some situations they kick you out of the cabin and you don't get your money back.
I think that the festival brings in money to the town. So they ruled it an accident to avoid bad publicity. Not everyone camps. Some people get hotels and spend money in the town. So maybe the cops realized that, and covered it up. This case just seems too suspicious to be immediately called an accident.
Ashley Williams that could be true!! It’s like how no one is ever pronounced dead at Disney world or Disney land.
Yes! That's exactly what I have wondered as well. There could have been pressure from the festival and the surrounding area because they don't want to lose money. Terribly sad. 😖 Although even more likely than the police being pressured to do a cover up, would probably be the Coroner/Medical Examiner. Although anyone in the right position could have had pressure put on them. I have looked into this case a lot, and I have *never* even come close to being able to see it as an accident. On top of that the 3 people she was with were *_extremely_* suspicious, and still remain that way even after the 2 of them moved to Florida together. It's all just so strange, and I feel terrible for her mother and the rest of her family.
That's very common, so your most likely right.
Tell that to all the edm festivals. As soon as someone dies the festival is usually cancelled :/
I agree. I live in a tourist town and this happens a lot.
The Canoe bruising could have happened while the Canoe is on land. My guess is that she was SA when she got the bite mark and was choked until she passed out. If there was a bite mark on her chest, the SA would have had to been a face to face. You can't bite someone's chest if you're behind them. If so, they may have pinned her down on her back, using their knees to press down on her thighs which would explain the bruising there. When she passed out from the choking, the person who SA her in a drunk and panicked train of thought, believed that they killed her and dragged her through the woods/tossed her down the hill (where she got her scrapes and bruises) and then they threw her limp body onto the docked canoe (when the canoe was docked/pulled up on shore) where she got her canoe bruise and possibly her broken nose. If the person "hugged" her body from behind to stand her up and then tossed her forward into the canoe, then she would have landed face first, hard and probably wouldn't have made it all the way into the canoe. The bruising placement seems to fit that. The person then paddled out to the other cove while she was unconscious and dumped the body... Lauren had no chance of surviving being well drunk, exhausted, beaten and unconscious and died from drowning. She was not conscious at the time so she didn't gasp for air, she just breathed normally explaining the fact no water was found in her lungs. That is my best guess. I'd love to hear your thoughts as well.
Agree
it's so strange to me that a mothers instinct is always right
Jada Rhames if my mom is super freaked out about me leaving to go somewhere from now on i’m taking her word for it lol .
Nini I'm glad to read this! Please always know your mom knows best!!!
Ikr
Im 2015 June 4 my mom woke up and had a bad feeling that something bad is going to happen and that same day my brother died of suicide...😔💔
J_rtex Roblox oh God, that’s awful... I’m so sorry 😢
She was clearly murdered, and what kinda friends are they, they are horrible people, they were so mean to her ffs, makes me so angry
What is ffs?
Camelia Tepelea for fuck sake
Honestly it’s so confusing how her other friend can turn her down like that, she herself said she would never camp there ever again so why let one of your friends do it?
Who cares if the cabin is full I’m sure there would have been a way for her to stay.
Sophia I know right?! I just wonder how that person is dealing with this knowing that if she had let her stay with her she would be alive right now...
Sophia could’ve let her sleep on the floor or the tub... literally anything.
To be fair I get where your coming from but it was only someone she went to school with years ago I think she was in her 20s when she got murdered so if someone u haven’t saw or spoke to in years and u weren’t really close with at school came up and asked if they could stay with you, and u didn’t have enough space of course u would turn them down because it’s not like they thought she would get murdered. I’m not saying anything bad towards you or anything just saying what I think
@@ciarasmith6256 her decision to not let her stay could have been something to do with the ex, she might have thought he would have been around, not staying with them but perhaps during the day drinking with them etc (since Lauren and him were initially staying together). Obviously given their past she wouldn't want to be anywhere near him and decided to not let her stay to prevent him being anywhere near.
Yeah it hasn’t been mentioned in this video yet that Cassie was the ex of the girl Lauren was there with. They had a very abusive relationship and it didn’t end well, that’s I think why she didn’t want to get involved, also it might not have been Cassie’s place to say yes without asking everyone else.
isnt it kinda weird that chris didnt feel lauren get up?
Yes absolutely. On a HAMMOCK. You twitch on a hammock and the whole thing rocks. It’s likely he would’ve at least lost his balance in that case
I see him …
How can she have allegedly drowned and not have ANY water in her lungs?! Is that right?!
Supposedly it is possible and is called dry drowning although there seems to be a lot of disagreement and amiguity around how common or likely it is.
Cleatis Tolbert even with dry drowning there is water in your lungs, you just aren't submerged in water when it happens, hence "dry". you cannot drown without water in your lungs
@@lovergirl5013 actually, dry drowning is when your throat is irritated due to inhaling water and causes it to close meaning no water enters the lungs and it prevents breathing as the throat doesn't reopen. You can sharply inhale water, get out of the pool, and then still dry drown. The water caused the initial throat closure and inability to breathe meaning it is still death by drowning.
Jen Pickering thats literally what i said
@@lovergirl5013 you said water is in your lungs when with dry drowning it isn't. But it's no big deal ✌
I will never shut up about how perfectly the front of her eyebrows matches her roots, and the tail of the eyebrows perfectly match her ends. Like why is the color so perfect?? Why is she so perfect??? What are you looking so good for?!
Beauty Therapist pitching her 2 cents.
Same! I’m transfixed by this. What a stunning woman who knows how to put herself together 💕
Her eyebrows are just perfection period 💅go sis
1. Aaron was an abusive boyfriend.
2. All three were very frantic with the stories they made.
3. Chris and Aaron we're talking about taking an officer's gun
4. She had BRUISES and a BITEMARK. If she had fallen into the rocks below there would be a Significant amount of damage.
5. There was no water in her lungs at All when they discovered her body.
6. Her clothes had completely Changed from last night and she wore a fresh tampon when she wasn't on her menstrual cycle.
7. The three main suspects had posted a picture of the three of them online with a caption stating "best weekend ever" when a friend of theirs had Died. And they didn't go to her funeral.
If police don't reopen the damn case. I'll be shocked at how stupid they can be.
They're corrupted, they know who did it
It seems to me that in these cases, the police don't know their arse from their elbows.
I can’t believe those assholes got away with it
You can literally ignore every other very clear sign that says that those three murdered her, because the only thing you really need to focus on is the fact that they were all posting pictures on social media after she was murdered titled "BEST WEEKEND EVER!" That right there tells you that they killed that girl! No sane person would ever post something like that after a girl that they were spending the weekend with was found murdered during their trip.
I think that she was sexually assaulted. Especially of what the ex girlfriend of Arron said. That he was really abusive towards her and he would leave marks along with *bite marks* .
I mean that has to stand out. And for the victim to have what seemed of those type of marks makes him look really guilty. Plus if she did drown, how did she not sink. If the drowning didn't happen that way, how did she get to the cove. Then when police were going to her, they saw Arron going the exact way.
And since she had a tampon in, police don't think she might've been raped? Like you said, this guy might've put in a tampon to look like she wasn't raped. Plus how tf do the investigators think she changed clothes.
I think Arron sexually assaulted her, suffocated her, and then put her in the cove so he could get the right material or take her to a place where he figured out what to do with her and that's why he was seen canoeing towards her direction knowing it was her before anybody was even alerted that she was found dead.
Like that would seem SUPER suspicious If you ask me.
When the cop was in the boat with them and overheard them talking. They were defiantly talking super suspiciously. Like planning to steal his gun.
Like I think it wasn't drowning and something actually happened that night.
I feel as if the police that were assigned to this case didn't really pay much attention to the smaller details. They just assumed because they didn't feel like going more in depth into the case. So disappointing. It literally is in front of them.
Do you think that the other that was with them helped him?
And once the case was declared an accident, the 3 of them merrily, without a care enjoyed the festival. I'm sure it was the two boys and the girl helped them cover it up.
Dexter Haven I never refuse anal🙃👀
@@charlieminaj2 and you are still living
Always trust your gut instincts!!! There is a reason why mother’s feel this way. I’ve actually seen a lot of cases where the mother felt like something was wrong, but let them go. (They are adults are ultimately will do what they want) Just remember that your parents have been around for a lot longer and they usually say no to things out of love. They just want you to be safe. So next time your parents say no to something remember it’s probably in your best interest. Their number one job is to protect you. It took me becoming a mother to see that. I honestly thought my parents were just being mean (they were super strict) They just wanted to keep me safe. Even though I didn’t see it that way.
Ashley Williams, watch Kendall Rae's video on Emma Walker, her mum got a gut feeling about her ex boyfriend, and she was right...
Ella Grace yup I’ve saw that video a few weeks ago.
This happened to me as a teen. I just turned 18 and i wanted to go to a rave with this girl i didnt hang out with normally. my mom kept telling me it was a bad idea and she had a bad feeling about the girl but i went anyways. I ended up being left in the industrial part of the city by myself at 3am. I was terrified. Thankfully my mom always made sure i knew if i was in a bad situation i could call her, so i did. If she hadnt picked me up that night i wouldnt have known what to do or how to get home. Who knows what could have happened. Im almost 25 now and if my mom has a bad feeling about something i avoid the situation. Listen to your parents kids. They just want you to be safe.
Someone needs to contact that family for another petition I would happily sign that because those 3 individuals are literally getting away with murder.
This case infuriates me!! Ive been following it for a while now through her pi’s podcast. Chris, Aaron and Hannah are definitely guilty of her murder.. they just got away with it and it makes me so mad because its obvious the police in charge of this case didn’t know what they were doing and completely threw it away. I hope they’re able to still get justice for Lauren. She deserves so much more than this.
Also can we talk about her 'friend' who knew how dangerous it was on that campsite, and knew how violent the dude was and still said 'we don't have room in our cabin' WELL MAKE ROOM
Edit:I think you mean this video in the bar you couldn't find: ua-cam.com/video/gYYYA6VthE4/v-deo.html at 5:09
Daisy Hendriks ya she could have slept on the floor!!!!
If I knew I was gonna sleep on the hammock above that ledge, I would have slept on the ground in the cabin or on the literal ground outside
Yes! I would’ve let her at least sleep on the floor.
The comment section is so pure here ❤️ I wish everybody had friends as great as y’all. I’m not dead but some shit could’ve been avoided if I had decent friends Like you guys In High School ❤️
@@limitlesslaney Same girlie. My friends once left me in the city center outside in the middle of the night with a dead phone because no one 'had room' in their house, or their parents didn't allow it. My mom slapped one of them in the face, it was great. I'm so glad I got rid of these cunts.
This just pissed me off, so much evidence yet dismissed.
It was all three of the “friends”. The person in her hammock killed her. Hannah provides the clothes and Hannah’s boyfriend was going to move the body.
Also I know this is a year later.
is it confirmed?
Also why didn’t they even check to see if those clothes belonged to her friend. They had to come from somewhere if they weren’t hers. There HAD to be a girl involved. Also because men don’t know how tampons work.
@@kendalbrenneman while I do think Hannah was involved, a guy could have done this alone. But I think all 3 of them did it while drunk and then lied about it.
i agree w this 100%
@@aromaladyellie agreed but I’m not so sure about them being fully drunk while doing it
I absolutely hate this case because the cops really failed that girl and it upsets me to no end.
It had to have been at least one of them, most likely chris. How could she have gotten out of the hammock in the middle of the night without waking him up? getting out of a hammock causes it to move a lot. he absolutely knew something else about that night. no way he slept through that
In trying to be objective here, maybe he was passed out from drinking, and whatnot.
I usually can’t watch unsolved mysteries because I hate not knowing what happened to the person
(it fucks me up)
but if it’s one of your videos then I’ll deal with it x
Amelia Rose same lol
Same
If this isn’t me..
SAME
Me too!
this case annoys me so much the people that investigated this case all need to be *FIRED*
her friends were idiots for making them stay in a hammock laying over a 9 feet drop
romina bailey wasn’t it 90
@@calaisgray4510 it was
@@calaisgray4510 over 9ft drop bcs thats the recommendation for max-height of hammocks
90*
@@steveywalker2735 Not too intelligent are you? She clearly states the hammock was hanging over a 90 foot drop. Clean the wax out of your ears....
Ahh yes the infamous biting rock. Those things are vicious.
Honestly though
This is such a gut-wrenching and frustrating case. I definitely suspect her so called "friends." What horrible individuals they all are. And that cop was totally useless. Sometimes I really hate LE, the stupid, lazy sods.
If you haven't, check out PI Sheila Wysocki's podcast "Without Warning" - if you think the LE is frustrating based on this video, you have NO idea...
@@azuradawn5683 Thanks I will try to fit that in - I have SO many podcasts and things going, many of which have useless LE involved. But I'm going to search that one out now.
Oh, yes, now that I see which one it is, I have listened to all of the episodes except the latest. Thanks.
@@azuradawn5683 Such a good podcast
This is probably a stupid question, but what does LE stand for?
Here I was about to say your disclaimer with you and you up and changed it! I’m thrown off. I always get so excited when you upload! 🖤🖤
Haylee More same here!
I feel betrayed xD
Haylee More haha noooo
i'm pretty sure it's because her video cant be taken down/blocked by youtube when she says it's for educational purposes or something so that's probably why, i think!!
Probabaly cause of the new copyright laws in the UK. You have to own absolutely everything in the video and if you don’t they take it down.
I like how a UA-camr has so much evidence that it’s not a ACCIDENT, but a detective who went to school for this can’t do anything abt it
I know i dont understand why dont they serve justice. They takes years in school just to dismiss a murder.
@@ijanellei151 it’s ridiculous
Yea
can we all just see how kind she is to her followers? like she is so good at telling these stories and honesty
“Best weekend ever” ?? Didn’t even go to her funeral?? Yeah suspect.
Who
Not to mention staying for the rest of the festival and having fun. Who tf does that when their friend just died.
yeah, why would they not show up!?! are they partying of her death!?
Rebecca Murphy all of her “friends” at the water thing
I was able to sign the petition and I believe the family is suing the police department for negligence!
I signed too
A full cabin? Could she not have slept on a sofa? There is SO much wrong with this story it's infuriating. "She drowned." "But she had no water in her lungs?" "Yes well, she still drowned." "She has a bite mark on her chest." "Rocks."
Like wtf?? I sincerely hope her family gets the truth.
I’m sure she could have even slept on the FLOOR if they’d let her, it may not be comfortable but it’d surely be better than sleeping on a hammock over a 90ft drop
How does her throat get crushed on a “rock” but her jaw, cheeks etc not being affected?
I think the friends did it. You said Hannah only invited Lauren if it benefited her. Maybe she saw Lauren as a threat in some way. The reason they invited her was because it was quite hard to get to and had almost no security and there were so many ways to stage it as an accident x
Personally I think the same
My heart breaks for her mum. I sincerely hope that one day her mum finds out exactly what happened to her daughter, no one deserves that.
Before that death she was in a *HAMMOC* with *CHRIS* and she *DIDN'T* know him. Very Sketchy....
Nah. Not in those circumstances
How is that sketchy?
@@deathbycheese850 that she didn't know him at all they literally met at the festival and then they're sleeping together
@Jessyca Joy its called a duck face it was a very popular selfie pose especially back then 😂
Probably because hannah and Aaron wanted to ‘ do it ‘ and they didn’t want Hannah in there. They’re bullies who bullied her.
this happened about 15 minutes from where i live. thank you for talking about lauren's case. its been a huge deal for our town!!
I think Aaron or Chris (or possibly both) killed Lauren after propositioning sex, which she said no to. She had already made it clear she wanted to leave, and to consider driving home when she was drunk there must have been something seriously wrong. Then for them to continue at the festival as if nothing was wrong is awful. Was the tampon inserted correctly? If so, could Hannah have come up with the idea of the tampon to cover for her boyfriend? To make sure that a rape test was not performed? Could Hannah have inserted it herself? Not in a sexist way at all but I don't know many men, if any, that would be able to correctly insert a tampon.. they're fiddly if you don't know what you're doing.. I honestly don't believe this is an accident in any way. Awful for her family, I hope they get the justice they deserve x
Have you listened to the Without Warning podcast from PI Sheila Wysocki? There is even more shady things going on... 😳 what I mean is there are possibly more characters/suspects then just Chris and Aaron.
Ellie * With the tampon thing. I know a few girls that if they feel unsafe, or want to be prepared for festivals or a night out - they will insert a tampon. It’s less likely (in their mind) they will be raped etc. it’s a sort of ‘security’ for their mind. It could of been like that???
It disgusts me that they didn't gave a shit about a possible rape and anything envolving a man atacking her. She was so neglected just by beeing a girl
It’s very difficult and painful I find to insert a tampon when on a less heavy part of my period. The thought of inserting one dry is horrific.
Anyone else watch her eyebrows move as she talks???! This isn't an insult at all, I'm just rambling on
HazelPop Gaming I do too
Yes. The most beautiful eyebrows tbh
@Itz Ya Gurls Vada & Autumn meeeeee
Yeah idk why I just find them so interesting 😂😂
I wanna know how she fills them so well
What’s sad is that Wakefest continues to go on after this. I live right outside Smithville and it’s so terrible seeing everyone have fun and be happy in the place where this poor girl lost her life. Also Aaron and Hannah just got married and had a baby....
Alex Serrano karma will serve justice one day .
Maybe they killed her so that Aaron and Hannah could be together 😱
Yeah... It happens more often than you think. People die at the festivals cause of alcohol, drugs, accidents
That baby is gunna get hit by the parents Karma train for sure
@@StarFlores makes no sense. They two were together.
The fact that they posted "Best Weekend Ever" and THE POLICE DID NOTHING
I feel like Lauren’s death was plotted. Hear me out. She says that Lauren’s mom noticed that Hannah was never really a “Friend” yo Lauren because she would only talk to her when she needed something and that they were never really close. I feel like Hannah was jealous of Lauren Bc she was really out going and she saw that she would’ve had a bright future. So she plotted this hole thing. First they were going to get her drunk so she would be weaker and more defenseless against an attacker. Then they would take her to the cove on the canoe. And that is when Hannah would begin to hit her eventually causing her nose to break, and since she was drunk her balance was off she , she might’ve stood up and tried to fight back but Hannah maybe pushed her causing her to fall on her fingers thus causing them to break. After Hannah took all her rage out on Lauren she decided to finish off what she started , so she strangled her. Once she was finished she made Chris and Arron take care of the body, maybe Chris had taken a liking to Lauren when they met and had told Arron. Knowing this Arron went to the canoe with Hannah, and left Chris alone with Lauren, he would then rape her and ask Hannah for a tampon that they had brought. Thus making it seem like she wasn’t raped.
Wow.
damn.
this sounds like it actually could’ve happened
Ikr! This is what I was thinking too. They purposely went across the river so they could go on with their plan. The one thing that doesn't make sense is that Aaron is her boyfriend, so why would he be fine with them killing her off?
I agree lol
The fact that the mother knew💔
This is why I'm going into a criminology degree and hopefully into detective investigation. I 99% believe this is a homicide case - the bruises and scratches alone point to that and especially the bra and clothing situation! Personally I believe the police did not want to rule this case as a homicide as it would've deterred people from going to the festival and therefore less money for the town. For most officers cases are simply competitions and want to find an easy explanation and I truly find it disgusting. False justice should not be a prize.
I really admire that. Thankyou for aiming to be part of the solution to help bring criminals to justice.
There is no need to apologize taking a break :) if you feel like you need a break then take it. I love watching your channel ♥️
Those three people don`t even deserve to be called her friends. What I find very weird is the fact they continued partying for few more days till the end of festival.
If they killed her accidentally, or even if they didn`t like her they would have at least some kind of emotion or at least feels stressed or scared. But just continue like nothing happened seems to me like it was all planned before and it was calculated cold murder.
Lauren, rest in peace, hope her family will at least get some answers.
wake boarding all day and drinking all night sounds incredibly dangerous. alcohol and water sports do not mix.
sonializbeth true but they weren’t participating they were just watching the festival
Ok but am I the only one that was seriously thrown off because she changed her disclaimer? I'm strangely attached to these stupid disclaimers bUT HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY IT WITH HER NOW
Same here!
Probably for monetisation purposes
SAMEE
@@lilamichelle8964 How would her disclaimer affect her monetisation? Just a genuine question because I never saw a problem with her old disclaimer