How Star Trek Voyager Defeated Conspiracy Theories With Empathy
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Conspiracy theories, from QANON to flatearthers, seem to have taken hold today. And with these conspiracies become more and more influential in our political landscape, Star Trek Voyager may show us a path forward through the character of Seven of Nine. Captain Janeway and Seven show us how to heal from conspiracy theories with empathy and caring.
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Of course Kubrick filmed the moon landing! But he was such a perfectionist that he made them film on location
Do you realise what that means? The first people on the moon were the camera crew.
@@AndreDeLimburger Oh shiiiit! We must dig deeper!
Jessie, this was fantastic! 😍🖖🏻
@@AndreDeLimburger No, the first humans on the moon were an English crackpot inventor and his neighbor Mister Bedford
@@AndreDeLimburger nope, first the location scouts, then the production crew to set up the lights, place the trailers for the actor and build the sets etc. there's actually an entire secret moon base up there used by the film crews! :')
CBS copyright claiming this video on its initial release is absolutely shameful. This is transformative work in the clearest way possible.
Jessies empathy and willingness to listen are just some of her many strengths.
True! But at the same time, it makes me feel very protective of her, because there are so many people out there who would take advantage of those wonderful qualities and exploit them...yeah, bit paranoid, I know, but, as we say in Germany: A burned child is wary of fire.
I just love her.
This got to me. I lost a dear friend to conspiracy theories, he was my housemate in college and we used to watch Voyager together. He was kind of the Ron Swanson to my Leslie Knope, but the conspiracy stuff ruined it and made him turn Islamaphobic and though I'm an atheist, I'm still Middle Eastern and I didn't feel safe. That was a couple of years ago and I don't know how much further down the rabbit hole he went. Sometimes I wonder if I could have reached him, but like I said, I didn't feel safe so I made the self-care choice. I hope others are in a better position to reach him and those who are reachable.
Sending love ❤️
Jessie, your capacity to empathize and to love never ceases to amaze me. You are an inspiration.
... And, "Jessie Gender is the best UA-camr of all time" is NO conspiracy theory, that's just a fact!
I have literally referred to absurd conspiracy theories as "Seven-of-Nine-ing yourself" for years because of this episode...😅
Uh, that “anxiety attack” in the middle. That... that was hard to watch. For a while I couldn’t figure out if it was an act or if you were truly not okay. Whoooo
Truly, hit way too close to home.
I was just listening and I was stressed tf out
I remember talking to my sister about more harmless conspiracy theories and I had told her “but this is just too silly to be true” and she responded “but wouldn’t the world be more interesting if it were?” It really plays on your points of conspiracy playing into making the world make sense.
Part of the fallout of the inundation of information and stimulus, is a lack of being able to focus on a single medium for the requisite amount of time needed for reflection, and all that that implies. We ignore nuance for the quickness and simplicity of information quantity. I have seen this in my home with just my kid and myself. This also has the effect of affecting our cognitive abilities.
This was more than i expected.
It's easy to feel terrified by these people who fall down rabbit holes into dangerous conspiracy territory.
It's even easier to point and laugh and mock from a safe distance.
It takes so much strength of character to remember that they are people and to show them empathy.
I like the relationship between seven and Naomi because they are at similar social and emotional development points. Because Seven is in many ways still just a child
This really put it into great words. I had always noticed how Naomi adapted to Seven’s... Borg-ness? easier than the adults, as kids are wont to do with “weird” people. But you’re right that Seven seems to understand and respect Naomi more easily too. I like little moments like when they talk in the mess hall, or Seven giving her writing advice.
Beautifully said
Seven's arc with Naomi and X-B youths was one of her character's best.
Seven's chronological age of early 20s coupled with stunted social development makes it extra ill-conceived for the Doc (unethical!) and even Chakotay to lust after/romance her
Chakotay was a deeply human, spiritual guy deeply invested in his Indigenous heritage who was also canonically one Ensign Kim OLDER than Seven (21 yrs).
Inappropriate AND incompatible.
Glad the reboots retracted that endgame.
I related a lot to Naomi as a kid because she was usually the only kid on voyager, she didn't have anyone her age to socialize with just like I didn't, she would use holodeck programs to socialize and entertain herself just like I would just play videogames all day since there was nothing else to do, I learned how to superficially seem human by watching TV.
now I relate a lot to seven, she had her childhood stolen while thinking she was being "protected" and she seemingly flips back and forth between lingering admiration for the Borg, and hatred for taking away something she can never truly get back. I often come off cold but naive just like her... I view seven and naomi almost as 2 sides of the same coin I guess
Glad to see this back. Love matters. Trust matters. Respect matters. Even if none of them are solutions . We have to try. Even knowing our efforts are just drops in the bucket, energy matters. ☮️
This analysis of this episode and how it plays into today, absolutely brilliant. It feels like that's what star trek is all about. These kind of understandings and conversations
Jesse gender being the greatest UA-camr of all time isn’t a conspiracy, it’s a fact
I would agree if not for hbomberguy.
@@renatocorvaro6924 He doesn't post often enough to be the best.
I agree, Jessie is the best!
Wake up, sheeple!
The relationship between 7 and Janeway was so beautiful. It's a shame that Kate Mulgrew seems to have had some resentment towards Jeri Ryan back in the day, although they seem to at least have a mutual respect these days, but from the various stories from the cast members, Kate made life very difficult for Jeri at the time.
Yes, S A M E. 😍😭
Beautifully said. Empathy is often overlooked or written off as 'soft' when it comes to using it as a tactic for unity, but it is incredibly powerful. I love your call to reach for the humanity in all of us, and let that be the unifier. Thank you.
One other reason people fall for conspiracies is that it's exciting. When someone tells you the latest conspiracy, they get mad, or frustrated, or sometimes gleeful at the predicted takedown, but it's all adrenaline.
Q says Jessie Gender is the best UA-camr of all time. (No, he's not Trump's Q)
Now THAT is a Q I can stand with, mate!
I've seen some very compelling evidence!
Can't argue with an omnipotent being!
I can’t decide if Q would be amused or pissed off by these crazy assholes using his name
This made me feel some VISCERAL emotions.
I only recently discovered your content and adore it so much. Wish you the best :>
Thank you for providing much-needed catharsis for dealing with people poisoned by Q-Anon conspiracy theories, which includes my boss.
The episode The Voyager Conspiracy makes me cry every single time, and the (altered) clips you provided had the same effect.
Sometimes, information overload occurs, and we cannot cope with the avalanche. That is when we need friends and family to help with the emotional turmoil that come with that. I am forever grateful to my Dad (also a Star Trek fan) for helping me make sense of everything going on right now.
Great, beautiful video, sis!
Live long and prosper
Peace and long life...
Finally someone refered to it as a terrorist attack
I grew up being told that there's someone watching over us, that there's a plan behind everything, even behind natural catastrophies. I grew to reject that. I embraced chance and human nature as being actually the less scary explanation for bad things happening. And personally I didn't reject one magical scary master mind just to replace it with another. But I see the allure of it: conspiracies are a modern ersatz religion, quite literally.
Thank you so much for bringing a sympathetic and empathic view to people who get absorbed into conspiracy theories. Your advice to leverage emotional connections is wonderful - I love it! I’m a very cognitively-driven person. It’s hard for me to remember that most people need to feel things to connect. Beautifully done, as usual for you.
Yes to everything! Thank you for acknowledging the harm that conspiracy theorists can cause and thank you for mentioning about protecting oneself!
It's exactly as you said in your previous video. Empathy is a finite resource.
I've been trying since 2014, since Gamergate, to pull my very close friend out of that rabbit hole. I am exhausted and every conversation hurts me more than the last.
I still care about him because he's married to my best friend, and I empathise that because of his beliefs he has lost friends...but it's getting harder and harder to pull him back the more he obsessively watches Nazi UA-cam.
I just miss my friend.
7: The Maquis are taking over!
J: Did Chakotay put you up to this?
I love that scene lmao
It's a bit like religion really. Makes you feel like there's a reason for everything.
Yes. But religion itself has no special properties. They're just belief systems. Modern-day suicide bombing for example were pioneered by Marxists groups. Libertarian free-market extremists often put divine-level importance on property rights and regard any attempt by government to address social issue as tyranny/sinful.
Except you can be religious and still a good person, but believing in conspiracy theories will eventually make you a bad person.
And like religion, it is based on a foundation of lies, misrepresentations, and a desire to manipulate people using fear, in order to enslave their minds and then their bodies. That's why every religion promises peace and delivers bloodshed instead. "Reason, logic, self-reflection are the human traits that help us moderate overwhelming emotion so that our feelings instruct us through intuition but do not become our "masters", reducing us to reactionary products of our environment.... " Surak, "Quotes and Ideas An English Transliteration From the Vulcan" Remulan Ischthenovic, 2436 Earth yr.
This is why we love you, Jessie. You're compassion for everyone. Thanks fir reminding me people I sometimes hate are people too. ❤️
Episodes like this one makes me so impressed by Kate and Jeris acting when you have heard of their relationship behind the scenes.
The space fleas were really EVERYWHERE in this episode huh
It got really annoying.
@@frankwolftown blame cbs
Commander Jessie. Promotion to Captain incoming soon!
Vi La Bianca suggested this video. I'm glad she did. She introduced me to you and your way of seeing things through empathy. I look forward to watching many more of your videos!
Very moving video. I loved that episode of VOY when it aired and this video has brought a whole new layer of understanding and meaning to reflect on so thank you for making it!
The Seven clips are now making me remember one of my favourite scenes with her and Icheb:
Icheb - "So you think I need to learn to rely on other people?"
Seven - "Yes!"
Icheb - "What about you? You've refused to rely on a single member of this crew. You hid your condition from the rest of us. You deactivated the Doctor and now you're rejecting my help. You're the one who needs to rely on others. Isn't that what people on this ship do? Help each other?"
Janeway - "Whenever we can"
Hot take: Isn`t religion ultimately a form of conspiracy theory?... Trying to explain a frightening complex and chaotic universe with supernatual rules and attributing awful and heartbreaking but ultimately random brutal incidents in the world with the presence of a literal, single evil entity (like the devil)?
Also I would tend to cal conspiracy theories "conspiracy beliefs".
Religion is just another nerd fandom. Why get in the middle of a kirk v picard debate? We all know janeway is best...
@@remiscott9843 Haha funny thing is that the modern idea of the devil is practically fan fiction from the middle ages...
Forking hell. I almost cried watching this. Thank you.
Conspiracy theories involve inductive reasoning instead of deductive reasoning. That means conclusions are drawn first and information second.
Yup. Hammering the facts into the mold of the conclusion, rather than piecing the facts together to see the picture they make on their own.
No one has ever explained the allure of conspiracy theories with more empathy and clarity to me. Thank you so much for this :)
Thank you Jessie, this I think has been one of my favourite videos in recent days. I have been giving a lot of thought about deprogramming people on the alt-right, in the Q-Anon world, and Trump supporters so this topic has been on my mind. You laid out some really good answers and a few paths forward.
I am a LGBTQ Anglican priest in Toronto, so I may pilfer one or two of your thoughts for future sermons...
My mom believes dinosaurs never existed and the bones found are just scams, but I still love her.
Yeah that's right UA-cam, you'd better sit back down.
PERIODT!
So happy to seee this re-uploaded after the "Attack of the 50ft copyright-holders"
Oh was it just a CR strike? I assumed something happend in the chat, I left the room for 5 mins and suddenly it went off to private ☹
I was wondering why it went 'Private'.
@@karl810 Nah, the chat was well-behaved, it was the rabid bloodhounds of CBS.
@@gozerthegozarian9500 Ah im glad of that atleast, I thought it was maybe some rabid "fans" commenting because I made the mistake of popping over to some "critique" videos of discovery yesterday too and the vitrol in those comments made me ashamed to be human. I tried polite replies but I shan't be going back after that experience, im a "cbs shill" apparently, we don't even have CBS over here 😂
@@gozerthegozarian9500 well, she IS talking about their stuff in a positive tone.
Can't be havin that
This made me cry. Happy? Sad? I’m part of that Q survivor subreddit. This video was much needed for me.
This is one of the best videos youve done. Also, stop making me want to watch voyager again. I just watched it not long ago and had to watch DS9 right after. I need a break lol.
Absolutely brilliant. We need more videos like this. I love the use of of Star Trek to talk about real life issues. I myself was getting really frustrated with some of my friends who are obsessed with conspiracy theories.
Good god, I love Janeway. I think I can attribute a lot of my initial moral growth as a person was watching Voyager as a young kid in the 90s. What a badass.
I like your analysis and conclusions here. I like to listen to all ideas, even the out there ones. Buuut afterward's, I apply Occam's Razor and know when to step away. Those last two things there keep me from falling down the rabbit hole.
As to the fixes of the video.I like the filter combinations used to avoid c issues. It looks really nice and accomplishes the goal without particularly being bad. Definitely clear its altered footage but doesnt give the original and doesn't go the crappy route. Nice work.
Hi Jessie. As someone who recently lost a friend to conspiracy theories this video hit home. Thanks for your thoughts and ideas on this subject.
This could have been an excellent "Sacred Treks" episode. I mean it was an excellent video as it. But it does have similar elements of as that series.
There's power in empathy and patience. I've seen it countless times. Feelings matter
Good video on this. I also recommend reading a Medium article where QAnon is looked at from a game designer's perspective.
That conspiracy stuff can be so nasty, I nearly lost someone in my close circle due to that garbage. Fighting, 'facts' and paranoia were a given in every interaction. There is normal contact between us now, but it still feels weird and uncomfortable. Even though they dont subscribe to all those crazy ideas anymore, I am worried about the terrible ithey still have and if there will be fights again.
Anyway, great work connecting Trek to this tough topic!
This vid hit me in the feels and had me crying by the end. Finding patterns of love in the chaos. Well done. 💜👊🏼🤟🏻🖖🏼🫂
Wow, this video was worth the fight to get it back up. Incredible work, Jessie... This video has the ability to really change people
It's funny, maybe if Kate Mulgrew had appealed emotionally to Jeri Ryan they might have had a better working relationship, but Mulgrew insisted on seeing what Jeri represented to her instead of who she is as a person.
I do kind of regret not doing anything with this episode when I did my big Voyager fic a few years ago, 'cause there's no doubt that the Seven of Nine/Samantha Wildman relationship would've had an impact on the plot. I just couldn't figure out what. So instead I just had the next chapter start just after the end of this episode with Seven admitting that downloading all that information at once was a bad idea and Samantha saying that this whole mess could've been avoided if she'd talked to her first before doing it because Sam would've told her it was a bad idea.
Though-provoking and heartfelt video. Only been watching this channel for a couple of months. Came here for Start Trek coverage, but this channel is way more than that. So awesome.
Glad you worked so hard to get this video out! I know you had a lot to go through to get it out and it really was a great one filled with compassion, empathy and love. Great work!
I found one of your videos in my UA-cam suggestions and I'm so glad I did. Your thoughtful and hopeful analysis is a rare find nowadays. Thank you.
This really does hit hard. I've really been struggling with sense of loss, on both a personal and national scale. These are people who are lost. Our people. I feel so powerless. The Borg really is an apt analogy for what we are seeing. It's really an alagory about cults, and technology anxiety, and that is a fitting mirror to what we are dealing with.
It's easy to forget just how new the internet is, and how new social media is. The rapid evolution we are enduring has consequences when we soar so high, we can lose touch with the natural boundaries that would otherwise insulate us from such nasty consequences. In other words, it's like giving a toddler a keyboard that could control-alt-delete human civilization.
I share your belief empathy is the cure. It's the vast, terrible lack of it that got us in this mess to begin with.
I love your content Jesse. Thank you. 👏👏❤💐
Yes. I am going to defend Nelix. We should have a "Measure of a Man" style trial!
This video was beautiful and hit me in all the feels. Thank you for this.
Just found your channel and as a trans man with adhd who loves Star Trek, I'm gonna have so much fun delving into your content. :) I always related so much to Seven, seeing myself in her as someone who grew up in a cult. Her PTSD and struggles with pre and post Borg identity, and the Escher shift of how people outside her former in-group see things, are so relatable to things I've struggled with.
This is pretty amazing. At the end of the day, this is basically just a review of a single episode of Voyager, with a purpose. But somehow Jessie's approach, and her leaning into the compassion of Janeway for Seven as the over-riding centre of the issue, nearly brought me to tears.
I mean, it helps that Voyager happen to have made an episode directly about conspiracy theories a couple of decades before they became such a big thing. But this is excellent from Jessie to use that episode to make an appeal about a way forward in deprogramming people from these theories.
Great message and very moving. Best message in here is to remind yourself that these are all people. Not others, not crazies, not brainwashed drones, but people.
I am glad you finally made to post it.
I like how you always choose right topics and show them trough Star Trek prism...
Excellent analysis as always, as an student of mathematics hoping to go into data science I know very well that overwhelm that one feels when trying to connect everything, there is this song, from the Macross Plus Soundtrack that I love that is called "Information High", always felt it embodied that feeling of catharsis that brings the knowing... of at the very least thinking you know stuff.
This a good video. I'll admit it comes from a much more hopeful place than I am at, but I appreciate the overall message. Particularly the acknowledgement that you must also care for yourself and are not responsible for talking down everyone and anyone.
Excellent video, Jessie! Glad you could re-upload it!
Jessie, this is a beautiful video. I teared up many times. I appreciate your thoughtful and nuanced approach to this topic and I wholeheartedly agree that we shouldn't abandon people to conspiracy theories if we still have the capacity to reach out and help. I am just barely starting my journey through your back catalog of videos but I'm so excited to hear more from you.
President Biden, at the inauguration, spoke of reunifying the nation after our "uncivil war." It is empathy toward each other that will do just that. Great video, Jessie.
I've always found this fascinating but foreign, this idea that it's better when suffering happens because someone does it to us - because my position is the exact opposite. If it's just the unfeeling universe, not happy but can endure. If it's someone actively doing this to me - much, much worse!
Another thought I had while watching this video: you could liken conspiracy theories (and also cults, some very similar aspects) to a kind of mind cancer. If we let it, it will slowly but surely take over and incorporate the whole mind, until there's nothing left.
First there must be justice, then accountability, then reconciliation, then healing. This is the path of love we must follow.
Awe-inspiring. As in awesome and inspiring! Your openness and sincerity are a shining light. Plus that uniform is fire!
Great video! Love how you connect current events to themes within Start trek.
Outstanding work this week, Jessie - I can see why you wanted to make sure we saw this.
this was so well done, brovo!
I've never cried at the end of a UA-cam video . This one hit harder than most. Keep up the great work jessie
First Jesse video I've seen since the holidays, due to my work schedule. I'd say it was a great pick for me start off with. Great production value.
I enjoy your channel immensely. I appreciate your perspective on the topics you cover and the time and effort you put into your content.
Thank you for making and posting this. This really helped me
The editing on this one is just sublime! Thank you for another wonderful video.
Thank you for this. Your perspectives are truly gifts .
Jesse this video is SUPERB! Seriously, well done.
I really needed to see this thank you speaking as someone who has a loved one believing the whole Q conspiracy theory I will admit at times it's been scary. Thank you so much for creating this video you don't realise how much you've helped me today by watching this video ❤❤
Excellent report. I would have expected no less from your rank, commander. I look forward to your next assignment.
This one got me crying. Thank you Cmdr Jessie 💜
This was such a beautiful video, and such a beautiful message 💖
Well done. Thank you for doing this, it’s a much needed perspective on this topic.
This is the best video I've seen of yours. So very contemporary and on point! Well thought out and expertly expressed. U sound like yr expressing some kind of personal experience of loss 2 people u were once close with (im guessing), but yr empathy and understanding appears intact. Kudos!!!
I loved this episode. I can now understand how something like the "Documentary" "Loose Change" about 9/11 fooled people, and how I felt when I watched it. Thank you Voyager and Jessie for bringing back memories and, even more how Star Trek holds up so well today that I need to watch them all again. (Especially DS9's 2020episode, an episode that always makes me cry)
This is what I needed right now, thank you.
Very compassionate look at those who believe in conspiracy theories.
Yay! It’s here! Thanks for going through all that BS for us!
Great vid as always, Jessie! Thank you for being one of the most empathetic and thoughtful UA-camrs I know.
Also though... Yes, I will defend Neelix to the death he is my bebe and I love him
I stumbled onto your channel, and listened to this while doing chores around the house. I'm very impressed. You're amazing, Jesse!
What excellent editing here. Really great job.
Jessie, Thank you for this. Your empathy and your intelligence have finally convinced me to become a Patreon.
Love what you are doing, started watching your videos with your reviews of Discovery but love where the channel is going and the narrative and videos you are producing.
Wonderful video and oof, so much to think about. That Voyager episode was one of the ones that stuck out to me when I first watched Voyager, I'm really glad you talked about it and made all those connections. Thank you always for the awesome videos and reminders to take care of ourselves
This was well done! This is a fantastic way to show the link between Star Trek and the "real" world. Yes, more please...
Beautiful video Jessie and one close to my heart.