For All Mankind: The Star Trek Prequel We Need Right Now
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- Опубліковано 18 лют 2021
- Apple TV's For All Mankind, written by Ronald D. Moore, shows us an alternative history that brings us closer to that Star Trek future... but, more importantly, it shows us how we can get from here to there...
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Yes, someone else who's seen the show! I actually liked it for being a good practical example of a lesson no one seems to have learned from the IRL space program: if you get enough smart people and enough resources focused on the same policy objective, we could basically solve every science-based problem humanity is facing within a few years.
I really appreciate this channel.
You are carrying on the spirit of optimism that Star Trek exemplified.
I cannot tell you how disappointing it is to have been born and raised on the hope of the latter half of the 20th century and to have survived into the future that those decades looked at with such optimism only to find that the wonders of the information age have been perverted to the purpose of rebirthing fascism.
This channel is a breath of fresh air and gives me the same feeling I had watching Trek as a kid in the 80s and 90s.
I just discovered this show, and you have expressed it the best I've seen. The perversion of the boom in technology perverted to the rebirth of fascism. Catastrophically disappointing.
Finaly someone else who has seen this show and understands I like how the ERA passes in 72 unlike in our time when it did not EVer pass
I am sad and thankful for this reminder.
Very sad ... and its the one time when ultra conservatives and far left socialists agreed to destroy this ammendment
everyone else with a rational mind was in favor of it ... liberals , centrists , moderats, even most conservatives...
both far ends of the spectrum had to ruin if for everyone ...
Ultra conservatives back then shot it down for sexist abd misogynist reasons , and socialists didnt like how it would destroy their attempts at equality of outcome , because it would make "affirmative action" illegal
I'm the son of a Mexican immigrant and that scene with him and his daughter looking at the rocket almost me cry. :_)
This is why the argurment that representation in media that is "just virtue signaling and forced diversity" is irrelevant. A company sees a push for diversity and realizes that a show with a black lead will do well. Thats cynical, that's not done for a good reason. That's not done because anyone actually cares. But what else it is, is not really important. It doesn't matter why a company pushes for more diversity, it doesn't matter why there's more BIPOC and LGBTQ+ people in media. What matters is that they're there.
It matters in that we shouldn't give the company kudos, but we can and should still be happy about it.
Oh boy, you people are brainwashed.
@@rileykim6068 Exactly!
I must admit, I haven't heard anything about this show yet. But you recommended 'The Expanse' and it was fantastic, so I look forward to what you have to say about this one :)
you might like it. It's Alternate history done right and helps if you lived through the 70's but enough people have or are historians that have picked through all the references to let us know them. Hope you give it a shot.
I wish Ronald D. Moore was in charge of Star Trek!
So many SciFi shows especially these days are all about dystopian and grim futures. It really is heartening to know that the spirit of a positive future is still out there, if we could just make it real.
This show made me cry like absolutely nothing else. I grew up in the greater DC area in the 90s and went to the National Air and Space Museum as often as I could get my parents to take me, I was so obsessed with NASA and the Apollo program. Watching this show felt like watching the world of my childhood come to life. My favorite moment in the first season by far was Molly Cobb wistfully saying "I'm going to the moon!" after several episodes of being this tough-as-nails cynic who never expected anything to come of "Nixon's Women," just thought she was going to get shrugged off and left behind again. But in that moment she finally allowed herself to see the shape of the world changing around her. Really, this whole show is full of moments like that, and season 2 is no exception. I hadn't heard anyone talking about it and found it completely by accident, but I raced through it in just a few days and now it's all I can think about. You really hit the nail on the head here. That sense of hope the show manages to convey, even in its darkest and most contentious moments, is absolutely everything to me.
I absolutely love this show. I'm super stoked they are getting a second season
The Outer Wilds theme overlayed with Kennedy's moon speech over images of the space race hit waaaaay harder than I'd have expected.
Potent content aside, my partner and I just discovered this show a few weeks ago and got instantly obsessed. I've been loving the ever-present digs at how the world of that timeline is, while still flawed, fundamentally better than ours in every regard. It's something they make increasingly evident especially as they get into the second and third seasons.
All of that is of course in addition to fantastic acting, great production value, and stellar writing (lol RDM seems to have learned a few lessons from BSG regarding making serialized, season-spanning plot arcs)
I took forever to watch this but you really nailed it. Thanks for recontexutualizing it for me. Your take on progress being a push and pull between cynicism, representation and optimism is a great way to frame the show.
As a big space race nerd (actually went to space camp, absolutely the best surprise my parents ever gave me) this show has given me the big feels.
I hope Ronald D Moore gets all 7 seasons he has planned. I think this could eclipse Battlestar Galactica as his magnum opus.
I love this show and I’m glad someone else is watching It! I was initially disappointed when they already had shuttles in season 2 but after understanding the timeline it makes sense. Can’t wait for more episodes!
my nitpick about the show is that it's at its best when there is momentum, when they are inventing things, or introducing new people who meaningfully change the program (typically, when the female astronauts are incorporated and struggle to get through the selection process). When the show does time skips instead of showing the lunar base or shuttles being developed, I feel robbed of great moments (although I understand the balance of positive progress moments with darker human drama moments, especially in the second half of the first season).
That said, the last episode to date (S02e06) has that in spades, with the astronauts bonding with the cosmonauts, and the heads of NASA and the soyouz program coming up with the universal docking system. I never thought coming up with a design for a hatch could be so exciting!.
This video moved me. I haven't seen For All Mankind but your take on it, the hope and optimism really touched me. Thank you.
Can't believe it's been a year since TriAngulum Audio Studios' vid about this series (posing it as an unofficial prequel to the Star Trek universe) and I still haven't got around to watching it!
Thanks for the kick in rear end to remind me, Jessie! 😁
I do love this show, glad to see that others have found it too.
21:10
I like how they slowly start understanding each other though
16:45
"there's too many people like me" was a nice line though
Singing in the key of star wars while wearing a star trek uniform... that's a paddlin. 😜 Good work.
I'm so pumped for season 2. It's a great alternative right now somewhat based in our time period. Super excited for this show 📺📡
Thank you for highlighting "For All Mankind" with this video essay! I binged the first season, last year. Like you, I was really taken with the social commentary and the highly believable characters. I'm intrigued by Moore's portrait of how a sustained space race might have affected social change in the United States. In this arena, the U.S. and USSR compete primarily for the "soft power" of global prestige and influence, rather than coercive military force -- even if the military applications and implications of rocket and satellite tech are implicitly understood. And where the superpowers' coercive proxy wars across the global South induced cynicism everywhere, the space race lends at least U.S. politics a more aspirational tone. The early success of women as astronauts lends momentum to 2nd Wave feminism, paving the way toward the ERA passage we're still awaiting. A Black woman emerges as an astronaut, as a new source of cultural inspiration, less than a decade after the civil rights movement suffered the loss of MLK and other promising young leaders. A Queer woman's silence deprives the LGBT+ of similar representation, but she lives to yet tell her story. By the end of the season, the Cold War still bristles with hostility and apocalyptic danger. It's by no means certain how the U.S. and USSR will navigate their ways through the next decades' nuclear meltdowns, religious militancies, economic globalization, and pro-democracy movements --let alone the potential militarization of space. But Moore et al have crafted a gripping, humane, surprisingly hopeful story. I'm anxiously looking forward to the second season.
Yes, yes, all around yes! We got the kernel -- now go make movie and inspire the hell out of us in solving world problem and way into the most inspiring future that we would all love to have.
YESS, OUTER WILDS SOUNDTRACK AS WELL AS AN UPLIFTING VIDEO!!
I am astonished that people don't know about this show. I thought it was just in Greece but I see that it's the same in USA too! Ronald D. Moore is an amazing writer and creator (TNG, DS9, BSG, Outlander, everything he touched it's gold) just brilliant!
Love the ENT inspired top. Also For All Mankind is absolutely second only to Trek. Thanks Jessie!
Fantastic opener, finally someone said aloud what I've been thinking: "Is this the mirror universe? ...Or have I binged watched 1 too many episodes of Discovery?"
Oof. So beautiful... until that last speech. The wagon trains heading west, the ships to the new world, those journeys of hope brought despair for many. Really not what you're going for here.
Binge watched this entire series during my last COVID bout. Great show, didn’t want to turn it off.
Didnt regret watching Season 1 and am stoked for Season 2! Didnt see it in the context of being a trek prequel.
great video, Jessie. Was looking for a review without getting too much into spoilers: finding of optimism (something new ST seemed to have lost) was all that I needed to hear!
I just saw the final credits for the most recent episode, and I noticed something: the Okudas are the design supervisors on For All Mankind.
Agreed with everything you said about FAM; really looking forward to watching S2- probably start this weekend.
Bless you for making this. I needed this positivity today. I so appreciate how you can see the positive and the good without being blind to the darkness in the world.
I think you nailed it. Excellent essay.
Jesse, thank you for a moving, beautiful paean to the hope and optimism that is both Trek and FAM. Both of these shows, along with your videos and other uplifting media, have been a real boon to helping my sanity survive the last several years. Love what you are doing, keep up the good work!
Also, consider this a vote for a weekly episode review of For All Mankind. (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
I needed this right now, thanks jessie
i *love* your take on this, and i'm going to have to watch it now. ty for sharing. 🧡
Awesome vid Jessie. I had thought of watching it because of Ron Moore, but it passed me by. Now I will watch for sure.
What do you think about the contrast between this incremental and collaborative way of approaching a better future, and Star Trek's canon story about things getting much worse before they kind of accidentally get better, as a result of Zephram Cochrane's technological discovery earning humanity a modicum of status in the eyes of the Vulcans?
So I'm definitely going to check this out. It looks like there's 3 seasons now... And I could use a little optimism in 2022... Thank you Jessie. 😎
Another series that passed me by. Thanks for flagging it up Jessie!
And out of all of your uniforms, definitely top marks for the ENT jumpsuit (maybe it's a blue thing?)
You made me cry....
Thank you.
Glad you love it too - and thank you for reminding me about season 2 starting :)
In-universe for the show, I hope that the Mars arc for season 3 includes the Mars landing missions are called ARIES. would sit nicely with that Voyager ep some years ago.
Music starting at 2:33 is "Main Title" by Andrew Prahlow from the Outer Wilds
Yeah... I was needing this kind of talk, latelly.
Thank you for the tip. Sounds like exactly the show I need right now. 🧡💛🧡
Wonderful video ❤
I am so thankful for you to have put all the work into this optimistic video. But I still cannot get over the fact, how much an aged Ronald D. Moore resembles an Episode-1-aged George Lucas... I think that was the biggest shock I've had to deal with today ... :D
I wish there were a way to watch this that didn't involve adding yet another streaming service to my already overcrowded list of streaming services. I can't justify adding another. I already have too many.
I thought the show was a rehash of 'From the Earth to the Moon'.. I didn't realize it was an alternative history.. I shall have to check it out.
Thank you ❤️
Another wonderful recommendation
Beautiful
Great video 👏👏👏👏👏👏
I like the reference to Star Trek Enrerprise
its how i got in the series and call me crazy , its my favourite star trek ... my second favourite is TNG
Ok... I had to press pause on 2:35 and take my time to watch this series because your brief one sentence synopsis totally sold me. BRB Jessie. See you again after I watch it all! xD
I paused the video halfway through and watched the show. You sold me on it, lol
DAMN THAT WAS GOOD and I'm in the edge of my seat after the first episode of season two
I've been wanting to start TOS for a few years now,. but I think I'll watch For All Mankind first and then TOS. ^_~
My best friend when I was 12 was a Trekkie and I a Star Wars fan, and I've really wanted to get into the show since even back then, but it always seemed so daunting and like there was too much for me to ever absorb it all. This is the week I finally get into Star Trek. Thanks for being my favorite person on UA-cam!
I've never even heard of this show but damn it sounds really interesting! I need to watch this ASAP.
Minor detail I noticed is how in 1992 there is a post-apartheid South African flag in the antarctica meaning apartheid ended sooner .Also wonder how many African states adopt socialism .
You give good optimism Jessie.
I did not know this show, you have convinced me to watch it.
Just discovered and watch For all mankind, what a gem. Can't believe that it's not more known. Really hope it will go beyond season 3.
Gotta say, that use of The Outer Wilds theme in the opening combined with the Apollo footage had me almost crying!
God I love this show and I think everyone should watch it. Thank you for covering it!
I love what you're saying, Jessie Gender....please keep up the great work!
Excellent analysis. I am among those who grew up in the 1960s and was very much caught up in the zeitgeist of the space race. I had all the Project Gemini and Apollo mission press kits (my father was a newspaper journalist) and mission patches, and I didn't miss a launch from 1963 to 1972. I don't know how younger people look at 2001: A Space Odyssey. For me, and I think for a lot of people, the movie seemed completely realistic. Following the trajectory of the space race, it seemed inevitable we would have large, working space stations and moon bases by the 1990s. If you had told me at the time that none of this would happen, I would have laughed at you. Despite all the turmoil of the 1960s, especially 1968, it was a very optimistic time, and especially in regard to space exploration. Kennedy to Roddenberry to Kubrick Armstrong to James T. Kirk born in Riverside, Iowa, seemed not only a natural progression, but an inevitable trajectory.
Just binge watch the show, and I loved it.
I LOVE this show, for all of these reasons, and appreciate the threading together of Roddenberry-eque optimism and what Ronald D. Moore is doing. (Pointing out that he has written for both the most utopian show, and the gritty reboot that launched a thousand gritty reboot jokes, was a nice bit of nuance.)
My one quibble is that the discussion about how women were left out of the formal educational opportunities went too quickly to point out what the show did: that many women (like Tracy) had pilot's licenses but were discouraged from continuing those careers, and that Molly Cobb was an amalgam of actual women from the Mercury 13 parallel program.
I hadn't known anything about that before For All Mankind, but because they mentioned it in-show, I watched the documentary "Mercury 13" about the unofficial program testing women through the same program the all-male Mercury astronauts went through. Even though it was not a formal NASA program, the women were qualified pilots, and of the 13 who passed, some had scores better than the official astronauts, showing that, if the jobs hadn't been reserved for men, the pool would have been more diverse in gender terms.
Never heard of this show, Sounds interesting! Another show I need to check out.
Can’t wait to finally binge this after my bar exam is over! 😁
Interesting watching this review now. I just got apple TV+ and started watching this series. I feel mixed feelings watching this review and not just cause of it being a sample of some of your early review styles, but I feel like this was a more optimistic hopeful Jessie reviewing a show she was impressed with. But it makes me sad as well because as much as you still clearly love reviewing and geeking out, I do feel like some of the light you had here has taken some hits along the way. Even though you still remain awesome and positive and wonderful and one of my favorite most insightful reviewers.
when at first you dont succeed, move the goalpost, move it again and again, and only when you at last get the one up, call it quits and get yourself a medal
FAN*Fucking*TASTIC! There should be a warning preceding this video that it will inspire hope and good feelings for the rest of your day. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Outher wilds, cool.
Interesting..the Soviet Cosmonaut from Mankind Season 1 is the same actor playing a Russian Cosmonaut in 'Away" (2019) now i believe in my head, they're the same person...
This made me cry! Damn it!
This has me wondering "What if the Star Trek Universe was an extrapolation of Ron Moore's For All Mankind timeline, and the 'Mirror Universe' is actually an extrapolation of our OWN toxic timeline?" 🤔
I for one cant wait for humanity to achieve the humanitarian utopia depicted in star trek discovery and picard... doesnt feel like we're too far away from that...
Good video. I do wish you had credited the Outer Wilds music.
Impressed with the montage editing (TOS!!) moreso by the homily. You've leveled up Jessie! This goes beyond pop commentary to what used to be called moral leadership or public speaking before those became corrupted and cynically discredited. Tears (again) watching the lesbian astronaut and hearing from you that optimism can spead as easily as cynicism. Going to sharpie that on my damn wall. I'll give Apple TV a chance to break my ancient computer. Keep singing, it works, plus you aren't weird to me at all.
I see someone has played the Outer Wilds...
Sounds like a great show, will have to find out how to watch it in Australia
If you have a Fire TV stick or android phone to cast, try Morpheus TV or Titanium TV app
I'd like to get Amy of Vintage Space's take on this.
4:45 ME1 music! I knew you had good taste :)
BTW Your video has now been posted on "alternatehistorydotcom" both because of the take on Star Trek and Alternate History :)
Episode 1 of Season 2 is already out and it seems to be far better than season 1, at least this first episode was fucking awesome. Though that alternate history montage at the beginning of the show was a little forced and rushed, it was like they just reversed some events from the late 70s and early 80s. for example, they had "Israel and Egypt failing to reach a deal in camp David, hostilities grow" while "Anwar Sadat survived the assassination attempt" the whole reason for Anwar Sadat being assassinated was his peace treaty with Israel, it would be like making an alternate history where the civil war has never happened but Lincoln is still assassinated. 😂
But other than some parts of that montage, it was pretty great.
I love For All Mankind and my favourite character is Danielle Poole
I do love this show, I only found it while trialing Apple TV to watch Defending Jacob, I've yet to find anyone who's heard of it let alone seen it though, the Apple TV app is a pain and I haven't seen it advertised at all, so i hope it does well enough over there to keep it going.
Oh God what is some of this music.... Mass effect?? Very curious about this show, I've literally never even heard of it. Thanks for the rec
Didn't even know about this! Thanks. Was in my 20s and I was all optimistic and excited. I knew WHY there was a space race, but didn't really care that much. I was caught up in it. BTW, there were women astronauts--they did VERY well on every one of the tests. And yes, there was enormous prejudice which seems like they captured realistically.
Watching S3 now! I'm kind of glad they don't drop each season all at once. The suspence is delicious and it also allows me to process each episode, like savoring a nice meal instead of just stuffing my face all at once. I don't want to spoil things (I'm about to watch e4 tonight), but things get a little..."out there"... 😉 WATCH THIS SHOW! Thanks for posting this video, Jess! Peace! 😎🤘❤️🌈☮️
Great review, I'll give this a watch. Although I don't believe space exploration ended after Apollo IRL - whilst budgets dropped, there was more freedom to pursue scientific aims rather than political ones - it's just that robots are generally better at that than people, which removes the human interest. Think of everything learned from Voyager, Hubble and Pathfinder, just recently there's been Juno, New Horizons and Perseverance just last week, plus the James Webb space telescope next year which will may actually tell us if life exists elsewhere in the cosmos. In my view, these modern missions, and others, like the ISS, with their international crews and long term scientific missions are much closer to the vision of the Enterprise than anything from the space race era.
I think that the perfect ending for this series would be an omage to the first episode of Star Trek
Me too!!
I love this show. So glad they bought it back. I wished they would release 3 eps a week like they did for the first season.
I've really enjoyed your feature on this series. Thank you very much!
I will follow the episode guide "for all Mankind" on Wikipedia ...
I'm currently watching the "Legend of Korra" after finishing the "Avatar"(-series). I like both very much.
Nice outfit Jessie. Very cool
Looking forward to what you have to say, hope season 2 doesn't head into the direction it's been teasing.
Also I love Wayne and Molly cobe as a gender non conforming characters, especially as a hetrosexual cupple , Wayne is a really good representation of the gender liberated man - they could of easily make him the generic soiboy simp with a feminist bossy girlfriend but instead his a cool emotional hippie and their relationship dynamic is super chill and friendly.
Started season one this week and im really digging it!
Great Nixon impersonation!