Lingsha Kit Analysis for Break/Sustain V1 | Honkai: Star Rail

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  • @yun3_
    @yun3_  Місяць тому +2

    Lingsha PF gameplay. tldr she deletes. ua-cam.com/video/9Kvvj9WOlwg/v-deo.htmlsi=uqEwaZTExKP2Csuf
    nice thread i found going over lingsha
    www.reddit.com/r/LingshaMains/s/UJVCbYa5Wt
    5:25 Sry, i forgot to mention that the ammount of times fuyuan will go is for the 0th cycle. u can check the gameplay from the description if u want further clarification👍

    • @UltimatePollo3495
      @UltimatePollo3495 Місяць тому +1

      One thing to note from watching that vid ennmies hit much harder which is going to make her emergency heal a lot more useful

  • @fawad9407
    @fawad9407 Місяць тому +63

    I'm very satisfied with Gallagher already . Gallagher satisfies me every night actually

  • @polygentle5679
    @polygentle5679 Місяць тому +57

    She's like the "Minor upgrade to Pela" that people say Jiaoqiu is to Acheron, but for Gallagher.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +16

      yah pretty much. only time will tell how much better they are to their 4* counterparts, especially if there are some lingsha buffs

    • @TheeGull0213
      @TheeGull0213 Місяць тому

      Lol true bro. I hope she gets more buff to make it more worth pulling her instead of settling on gallagher.

    • @nickn_myae
      @nickn_myae Місяць тому +3

      Watch Incels come after you because apparently it's only okay when you say that to a male character

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +5

      @@nickn_myae nah everyone has been super chill and many agree actually. its been civil and no doomposting. yet... their reddit had some ppl talking about this but like civilly too. Lotta ppl dont care rn and just like her.

    • @nickn_myae
      @nickn_myae Місяць тому +3

      @@yun3_ that's a good thing, hopefully it stays that way in all versions of the beta, because people comparing limited five stars with fours and calling them a "slightly" upgrade version is so damn annoying

  • @AevyCh
    @AevyCh Місяць тому +17

    The fact that she has full AoE on all of her attacks makes her really good in Pure Fiction.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      this is true, but because super break is reliant on HTB's ult which scaling decreases the more enemies there are, this makes it so to you most likely cannot 1 shot the mobs even if Lingsha breaks. (unless her damage is insane)

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      @@AevyCh nvm, there some gameplay of her in PF rn in my pinned comment. she didnt not care and just deleted the enemies though some enemies had just enough toughness to live

  • @WolfcatcherWolf
    @WolfcatcherWolf Місяць тому +8

    Once again, a very good and detailed analysis, bravo!

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      ty :) I think I got most of my points across and tried to be pretty fair with my critiques(still a bit biased ofc)
      had to be a bit careful to not cause doomposting cuz I don't think it's warranted for her.

  • @Honki.Starbucks
    @Honki.Starbucks Місяць тому +8

    E1 ff has %40 def shred(cavalry set+e1), e1 ruan mei makes it %60. When you add e1 lingsha, def shred reaches %80 which is a huge boost since it is almost %30 more damage. I'm expecting them to release a better hmc in the future with def shred in their kit which will increase total to %100.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      @@Honki.Starbucks yah a 27% def increase a lot. i honestly didnt even consider that to be too important when i made the vid, even though i have e1 ff and e1rm.
      if they give her some more buffs, after seeing this, def may consider

    • @justforfunje
      @justforfunje 24 дні тому

      actually def ignore applied compound effect, so 80% def ignore is like 70-80++% more damage

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  24 дні тому

      @@justforfunje we were just saying the dmg increase from 60 > 80 :) but yah at 80 def shred, it is a 74.8% def shred

  • @myku1182
    @myku1182 Місяць тому +5

    Im debating to myself if lingsha is a must have but after some time, I used my guaranteed to pull huohuo to upgrade my both Jingyuan and Jingliu+Blade team. Ive come to conclusion that my FF doesnt need over upgrading, instead Ill start to focus on my second team

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      smart. i rly hope they get a new support for jingliu soon :)

  • @Fyeenix
    @Fyeenix Місяць тому +2

    Probably should have been shown in the video that lingshas single target break is only 70 compared to gallaghers 132.
    Even with e1, its only a 33% increase since they both will always be with ruan meis 50% efficiency anyway.
    That makes gallaghers break 198 and lingsha is 105/140 at e1. Gallagher is 89%/40% better at breaking the most important target than lingsha

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      oh gotchu. I know that lingsha can gets bursts of toughness dmg when she goes skill, bunny, ult, bunny. I also know that gallagher can potentially fall off inregards to breaking if he doesnt get hit/has to heal cuz potentially not enough energy to burst > enhanced basic. we really just gotta see how v3 changes her

  • @manuelhenriqu3
    @manuelhenriqu3 21 день тому +1

    something that is worth noting is that she works much better than gallagher if you're running her with topaz, because her talent advances numby

  • @isac9465
    @isac9465 Місяць тому +4

    Right now she is exactly like jiaoqiu, overall the new best option in the teams they were designed for and a sidegrade to another more worth it 5 star in another team

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      yah a slight but nice upgrade for those who dont mind spending a lil extra. now we just gotta see if they do any changes with Lingsha

  • @lightningdragon555
    @lightningdragon555 Місяць тому +5

    great vid! lingsha is definitely overall a decent upgrade over gallagher, but definitely nothing major like some overhype her to be. even in a FF team, getting eidolons/ lightcones for FF or RM would be a better investment for ur team then getting genderswap gallagher lol.
    i might go for her to to free up gallagher for acheron but I'll see if they buff her later on. i hope they add universal toughness reduction for her in later version cuz outside of ff teams, she's just a good healer/ cleanser.
    (also hoyo, plz add 5 energy for her summon and stop gatekeeping summon energy behind eidolons)

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      great take 😎

    • @zhoxnq6776
      @zhoxnq6776 Місяць тому +1

      what if you have rm e1/ff e2s1 already? 🤔
      the only choices then are saving for e6 or going for e1 lingsha

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      @@zhoxnq6776 Another comment mentioned "E1 ff has %40 def shred(cavalry set+e1), e1 ruan mei makes it %60. When you add e1 lingsha, def shred reaches %80 which is a huge boost since it is almost %30 more damage." so I think e1 lingsha would be much cheaper and better to go for. unless u love FF that much. I love ff, but my wallet sure as heck dont ;-;

  • @fartfacedrenzyy513
    @fartfacedrenzyy513 Місяць тому +8

    I was really looking forward for her the moment she was teased. Reading her kit yesterday, i was really disappointed. It could be because e6 gallagher is just so good, he makes lingsha not that good. Like the gap between them aint huge

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      that is pretty true. gallagher is just rly solid. I think my main issue is that she doesnt really do too well against bosses/enemies with high toughness without e1. thats what break rn needs, bc spending a turn not doing break/super break for FF/boothill = 0 dmg

  • @ngm6541
    @ngm6541 Місяць тому +2

    Shes really good for Feixiao since the general scales on teammates who hit multiples times a turn. GG is already really enough for FF

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      I have seem gameplay and she def looks pretty solid with her, but she isn't an aventurine. That guy is crazy in a feixiao team from the leaks ive seen

  • @carolinaferreira5890
    @carolinaferreira5890 Місяць тому +2

    Honestly, as someone who uses both Boothill and Firefly, I was looking forward to Lingsha as a way to free up some supports for one another, especially since earlier leaks were mentioning she would have toughness break enhance, which is probably the most crucial part of Ruan Mei’s kit for Boothill. So I was pretty disappointed to find out that it was only for herself, exclusive to fire weakness and it’s eidolon locked. If I was Hoyo and wanted to make her more appealing to people who are already satisfied with Gallagher as a break sustain, that’s the aspect I’d work on. Hell, make it 35% instead of 50% like Ruan Mei and also tied to her ult for all I care. Her LC seems good at least tho.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      Yah I feel the same way and hope they can move the break efficiency to the base kit somehow. Im tight on jades rn after firefly and I think FF's paint point rn is single target break. Though she deletes the bar, that 1-2 turns they arent broken means no damage. If they gave her break efficiency, itd def help, cuz rn, I dont think FF needs help aoe

  • @isac9465
    @isac9465 Місяць тому +1

    3/4 things you mentioned in the “what I wanted from lingsha” section were exactly what I wanted and was honestly expecting, but you wanted action advance? That would be dope to have but action advance is something that a future limited 5* superbreak harmony would have not really a sustain

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      yah thats pretty true but seeing how roles are now being more compressed, especially our sustains, I thought it'd be cool. Imagine everytime that the Fuyuan acted, everyone was advanced like 10%. that'd be cool af

  • @starkiller2615
    @starkiller2615 Місяць тому +5

    I think all the "minor upgrade to Gallagher' chatter will subside once hoyo makes more content that counters Gallagher i.e. more debuffs from enemies which makes Gallagher way less sp positive.
    Plus i see Lingsha getting more buffs.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      yah that’s pretty true. though i must say unless it’s like cc, i honestly don’t bother cleansing with gallagher. but as soon as they add enemies with -atk debuff 😞

    • @TheeGull0213
      @TheeGull0213 Місяць тому +1

      True the AoE cleanse is really good and she has emergency healing too.

    • @unbromomento6338
      @unbromomento6338 Місяць тому +1

      Nah, i see both getting powercreeped im a future

    • @X10Z24
      @X10Z24 20 днів тому +1

      hoyo will always make content that revolves around the current limited 5 star on banner and making the cheaper counterpart worse somehow, much like the current moc 12 where clara just doesnt work as well compared to yunli

  • @Yuki_Ika7
    @Yuki_Ika7 Місяць тому +1

    i think i will likely at least try to get Lingsha as not only for break effect teams but she seems like she can be a Charge generator for hunt March, her basic, skill and ult are all attacks and she has a follow-up that she can advance with her skill and ult, considering i have a skill point positive team right now (i have e1 Firefly, Harmony Trailblazer with Ruan Mei's LC, Hunt March and e6 Gallagher, i am still able to clear everything with full rewards, Ruan Mei is in my DoT team) i should be able to more-or-less spam Lingsha's skill to get the follow up attack as often as possible to generate charge points for March on top of the other benefits of having Lingsha on the team.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      how is march in ur current team? i haven’t unlocked her yet so idk how gud itll be

    • @Yuki_Ika7
      @Yuki_Ika7 Місяць тому +1

      @@yun3_ She is pretty good, I am still able to complete MoC 12 and AS 4 and get all the rewards with her in the team, it may not be optimal but it works, she is good at reducing toughness if you have her Shifu be a support or Nihility character, especially with her enhanced basic after you ult with her, and I don't even run a break build on her, she shreds through toughness bars with her enhanced basic attack really well as she ignores 50% of the weakness type of the Shifu's element if you have a support or Nihility character as it on top of being able to break toughness of that element normally thanks to one of her traces
      Edit: also her e2 gives her a follow up attack
      edit 2: she also gives other buffs to whoever she designates as Shifu, basically she his a Hunt and Harmony Hybrid character, i highly recommend trying her out

  • @leimatzunkyo5586
    @leimatzunkyo5586 Місяць тому +1

    It doesn't really matter. It means there are 2 break healers for two sides in the AS now and that's gonna push Huohuo and other healer down a tier.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      i feel huohuo will stay where she's at due to how important energy is for certain teams. But having 2 break sustains will def be useful for those who actually do have 2 break teams

    • @leimatzunkyo5586
      @leimatzunkyo5586 Місяць тому +2

      @@yun3_ The thing is the healer being able to break and heal independently are more treasured in Shadows. Huohuo suffers from having a non-reliable emergency healing...Which makes her a niche pick if you don't have E2 gallagher.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      @@leimatzunkyo5586
      gallagher def performs well in apoc shadows, But huohuo is also so good in the other 2 modes. I personally never have an issue with sustain cuz my supports are tanky. But god dang are nihility units like paper thin.
      If honkai switches from the break meta, which im sure it will, gallagher can lose quite a bit of value if ur not running like a robin team or break. Huohuo's energy is just always nice :)

  • @ganyuluvr5594
    @ganyuluvr5594 Місяць тому +2

    before watching fully i would like to say i hate break meta and dont have ff but I NEED LINGSHAAAAAA SHES SO PRETTY

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      imma say i hate fua. they keep winning and i didnt invest. first aventurine, then robin, and finally feixiao. topaz stonks to the moon 😭

    • @Edengoldengardens
      @Edengoldengardens Місяць тому +2

      @@yun3_ im the complete opposite lmao e1s1 topaz and winning. i am considering lingsha as an alt follow up sustainer but that’ll depend on 2.6 characters

    • @Draconian.
      @Draconian. Місяць тому +3

      ​@@yun3_ you should have known that investing in victory means playing the long game

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      @@Edengoldengardens topaz will go super crazy with feixiao from the leaks ive seen. its a stupid team ☺🔫

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +3

      @@Draconian. im am praying that all IPC mains suffer and get dook dook relics

  • @drayceregulus
    @drayceregulus 24 дні тому +2

    I understand what you are saying but to me it sounds like you just want another harmony or a nihility unit for break teams at least that is what it is sounds like to me.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  24 дні тому +1

      I wouldve really wanted a hybrid sustain for break bc as most ppl, including myself, dont even need more sustain on a break team tbh, as the enemies cant even play the game already. more dmg amping/ support capabilities wouldve been rly nice

    • @drayceregulus
      @drayceregulus 24 дні тому +1

      @@yun3_ Hmm I see. I understand your point and your way of thinking. I honestly agree as I believe break would love a good nihility unit so that’s understandable

  • @ChucklinHSR
    @ChucklinHSR Місяць тому +1

    The fact that she will be +⅓ sp per turn (skill every 3 turns) is a turn off for me while Gallagher is +4/3 sp per turn (3 turn ult advance included). Gallagher would have to skill every other turn to maintain the SP generation that lingsha does. Firefly would need to find someone else to eat sp from if using lingsha or E1.
    if break amount is comparable Gallagher would be better since he can concentrate break effect into the broken window while lingsha can not.
    I think the only condolence to lingsha is cleansing, consistency, and attack frequency (with rabbit). The prior two can be addressed by more resets. When a unit comes out that depends on attack frequency it would be good (aside from sp) but even lingsha's attack frequency is about ~2 to 2 ⅓ per turn while Gallagher is 1 ⅔ per turn.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      good analysis. I think a big issue is that lingsha might not even be positive sp wise(depending how how u want to use her) due to how fuyuan works. its quite slow rn imo and as such ur gonna really be tempted to skill to get that action advance

    • @ChucklinHSR
      @ChucklinHSR Місяць тому +1

      I thought the pull ups from skill will be like topaz but it way less. If sp neutral that is a disapointing. Unless content gets harder to need the sustain one would be hard pressed to pull. If sustain content does get hard it would likely invalidate luocha lynx natash Bailu and Gepard as well.

  • @hadeserebus5006
    @hadeserebus5006 Місяць тому +2

    We'll see how the beta goes but probably skip even if she's pretty, the only reason I would pull for her is if she has Moze on her banner lolz I wanted her at first because, again, pretty and even prettier in game but since I don't prioritize break team, I have a really good Gallagher, she's not a husbando, and all of my extra pulls are going to Feixiao after pulling Jiaoqiu... Yeah, most likely skip (please let Moze be in Feixiao banner).
    Honestly I have no real reason to pull abundance units now because I got lucky enough to get E1 Huohuo in a single 10 pull during her initial release (currently 7k HP, 143 SPD outside her buff, 124% ERR, stupidly insane with Robin, Tingyun, Sparkle btw) who gives out 12% SPD buff, Atk Buff whenever she does her ult, getting an extra turn for her talent, and she's just super comfy to use especially for CC heavy enemies, her passive healing is also a major life saver for a lot of my runs since her passive heals the entire team when using any character's ults (this is how she single handedly saved my Sparkle and Tingyun during my first and only run against Aventurine pre-nerf).
    If they don't give Lingsha an insane buff, then she'd be in a similar situation as Jiaoqiu. I think this is actually good if they do make her a slight upgrade to Gallagher instead of being his powercrept because the devs are basically proving that every new unit is not a must pull (this is me coping cuz I'm too broke to whale). But then again, only time will tell.
    Good video btw. Keep up the good work!

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      when Jq first was announced. i was like, finally, i can go “sustainless” with Jingliu. well clearly thats not happening anymore. then i saw pretty lady for break and a 5*??? good bye old man. ur time is joever. turns out also not to be the case too.
      moze def looks cool and i would assume he’ll be on the feixiao banner unless they pull a genshin. lets put ur support… on the next banner lol
      i friken wish i had huohuo. i bet than energy go hard 😞
      she def in a precarious spot rn and hoping she gets buffed, even though my and most other FF do not need help.
      ty and i will try :)

    • @hadeserebus5006
      @hadeserebus5006 Місяць тому +2

      @@yun3_ Hope she does get buffed because honestly there's more hype around Moze compared to Lingsha.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      hopefully, im not 100% sure but ive heard there may not be any changes in v2

    • @xuk6042
      @xuk6042 24 дні тому

      ​@@yun3_you could equip lingsha with the lc that gives energy on skill use 😂 you don't have to run her in a break team especially if you don't have huo/adv

  • @excuseuEw
    @excuseuEw Місяць тому +1

    I like them both and I wish they can run in the same team idk I'm not a huge firefly or boothill fan and I am f2p hahaha it would be a wild dream to get 7 copies in one ten pull

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      u just gotta pray to the hoyo gods. 🎰

  • @martin.0827
    @martin.0827 Місяць тому +1

    As a gallagher haver, I’m on the fence between
    1. Let’s pull Lingsha and make our Firefly team to its peak performance
    2. Just save your stellar jades, Firefly is already too strong

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      do 1 10 pull and see what fate decides.

    • @sadgeplatinum19
      @sadgeplatinum19 Місяць тому +1

      That's what I'm also telling myself. Firefly doesn't need a buff, she's already best DPS tied with Acheron, arguably better.

  • @rosseancollins1823
    @rosseancollins1823 Місяць тому +1

    Will you make a video regarding Feixiao and whether she needs Robin?

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      yah i can make a feixiao video next and focus more on teamates👍 in the process making a jingliu rn

    • @rosseancollins1823
      @rosseancollins1823 Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@yun3_ thanks man🫡

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      ua-cam.com/video/PR81FgYvk4E/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AcheronLeaks here's a good showcase with a premium FUA team
      ua-cam.com/video/uq0CRu46ZPc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=HSReak and here's one that's more ftp
      hope this helps till I make a vid :)

  • @JoDPeoplePower
    @JoDPeoplePower Місяць тому

    Gala can give FF one turn ult after first stance by using QPQ
    Lingsha can't
    So easy skip
    If ult will forward Ling instead of summon, she will be awesome
    There are no offensive buffs that can overcome the ability to go to the second stance with FF just with 1 skill
    Better spend this 1 5Star to pull for E1 Ruan Mei

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      hey who knows, maybe v3 changes completely change her kit and make her the next abundance aventurine

    • @JoDPeoplePower
      @JoDPeoplePower Місяць тому +1

      @@yun3_ true, gala is just too good. Even outside of break Gala+QPQ is a perfect Robin partner because of given her a lot of energy. So hard to compete with him

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      @@JoDPeoplePower yah 100%. that gala robin combo is stupidly op. So I really hope they change her kit in a way to make her more unique so she doesnt have to compete directly with gallagher.

  • @joezacjosephsunil38
    @joezacjosephsunil38 Місяць тому +3

    LOL the yangqing would win XD

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      he solos verse xd, no team needed

  • @rjlhee3781
    @rjlhee3781 Місяць тому

    I am waiting for another Harmony superbreak enabler.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      it wonder how long till hmc can get replaced sidegraded

  • @desupair
    @desupair Місяць тому

    will her sig LC be the best for Gallagher?

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      yah it is a really gud lc. compared to his current options which really doesnt help the team, this is potentially a straight 18% dmg increase

    • @desupair
      @desupair Місяць тому +1

      ​@@yun3_thanks. I hope she comes after Feixiao so i can get her first than Lingsha's LC.

  • @jason.c8730
    @jason.c8730 Місяць тому

    Everyone compare with e6 galaghar, i only have e2😂

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому +1

      e6 is pretty nice but ur not missing out on too much :)

  • @nilo1178
    @nilo1178 Місяць тому +1

    so basically dont pull.

    • @yun3_
      @yun3_  Місяць тому

      itll just depend on the player, but i dont think many players who wanted a gallagher upgrade may pull unless she is much much better