The R7 Is A Very CONFUSED Motorcycle (Get Something Else!)

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 585

  • @yammienoob
    @yammienoob  3 роки тому +191

    Guys - in case it wasn't obvious THIS IS NOT ME IN THE VIDEO. IT IS SPITE.
    Second: just because Spite thinks something about the bike doesn't mean we've flip flopped. I still think it's an awesome entry level sportbike offering that handles awesome. He's not a sportbike boi, and it's interesting to hear what someone who isn't a die hard track day guy like me thinks of the bike. So relax lol

    • @austinburley865
      @austinburley865 3 роки тому +5

      Tell em papa yam

    • @manoloorz
      @manoloorz 3 роки тому +3

      just get a duke 890 so you both can love it in equal measure

    • @dubzc5895
      @dubzc5895 3 роки тому +3

      STFU Spite 😘🤣 dam HD fan boi

    • @manoloorz
      @manoloorz 3 роки тому

      or at least rent one please u.u ive been waiting to hear your opinion on the 790/890 duke for decades u.u

    • @manoloorz
      @manoloorz 3 роки тому

      decades...

  • @iamdeancoulstock
    @iamdeancoulstock 3 роки тому +87

    Props to yammie for uploading this video, even if Spite shares an opinion that differs to yours. This is why I keep coming back for more content- the genuine opinions. And the ducatis.

    • @KillaZamii
      @KillaZamii 2 роки тому

      Unless you’re talking about the Svartpilen 401… I’m pretty sure Yammie was payed by them to advertise their bike.

    • @2stroketyson79
      @2stroketyson79 Рік тому

      bro ur taking advice from people who are paid to say what they say!

  • @modularcuriosity
    @modularcuriosity 3 роки тому +256

    "I don't like going super fast on a public road."
    That's not a problem, that's being a responsible rider.

    • @Ja_Mes
      @Ja_Mes 3 роки тому +12

      Y’all are fun at parties I bet

    • @ZSmith-yy4lv
      @ZSmith-yy4lv 3 роки тому +45

      @@Ja_Mes at least we don’t kill the mood with a funeral

    • @Sol-l4i4d
      @Sol-l4i4d 3 роки тому +12

      @@Ja_Mes that's cuz dead people don't go to parties. Ride like a maniac and you will get yourself and others killed.

    • @ganuvien
      @ganuvien 3 роки тому +2

      @@ZSmith-yy4lv it's crazy how some of the fastest riders die from not riding 🙄

    • @ganuvien
      @ganuvien 3 роки тому +3

      @@stevenjackson5541 Weird, all the fast trackday guys here in Texas still ride fast on road 😂. If you only do trackdays you must have a lot of $ and don't enjoy the trips and adventures a motorcycle can take you on the open road.

  • @ethancknight
    @ethancknight 3 роки тому +54

    This seems more about the things you dislike about sport-bike ergonomics more than things you dislike about the R7.

    • @musicjnky1982
      @musicjnky1982 3 роки тому +2

      He liked the Fireblade and Ducati. So you're wrong on that.

    • @ethancknight
      @ethancknight 3 роки тому +9

      @@musicjnky1982 Him liking other bikes doesn't change his many many statements complaining about the ergonomics of the bike. The whole main point centers around the idea that this is the wrong kind of power for this kind of ergonomic package, and I simply don't agree.

    • @callumaltair9806
      @callumaltair9806 3 роки тому +3

      Yamaha ergonomics are not great. The R6 was HORRIBLE to commute on.

    • @svensharpsword9837
      @svensharpsword9837 3 роки тому +3

      @@callumaltair9806 well yeah. The R6 was meant to be a race bike lol

    • @callumaltair9806
      @callumaltair9806 3 роки тому +1

      @@svensharpsword9837 That's sort of the point though. Yamaha marketed as the ultimate sport bike BUT it's really just a track bike that is street legal 😂

  • @peterwilson8039
    @peterwilson8039 3 роки тому +54

    I knew it was Spite when I saw the title. Yammie quite likes the R7.

    • @fb4509
      @fb4509 3 роки тому

      @@pleasedontwatchthese9593 or they're just two different people with differing opinions lol

    • @chalelu
      @chalelu 3 роки тому

      Glad you spoiled me right in the moment yam got into it

    • @hatespacebar4452
      @hatespacebar4452 3 роки тому +2

      @@fb4509 ehhhhh. Spite flip flops on his opinions all the time. Just look at how ridiculously inconsistent he is with his "opinions" on Harley Davidson.

    • @fb4509
      @fb4509 3 роки тому

      @@pleasedontwatchthese9593 quite frankly that's purely idiotic considering all of the work that goes into making about 5 videos a week year round. That's like saying revzilla or ryan with fortnine or motorcycle magazine (should I continue?) should only have one person because they might have conflicting opinions. Lol

    • @fb4509
      @fb4509 3 роки тому

      @@hatespacebar4452 I've never seen spite flip flop on harley as a brand. He clearly loves the brand, but bike to bike I can see why he would think some are better than others.

  • @teddyvabson
    @teddyvabson 3 роки тому +141

    So is the R7 "Confused" or "not the bike for you"? The inability of putting yourself in the shoes of this bikes' prospective buyer makes for a bad review in my opinion. Many mixed messages in this video.

    • @dkompolt1234
      @dkompolt1234 3 роки тому +13

      Perfectly said and applies to a lot of their videos in which they project weird identity questions onto the bikes they're reviewing. Not every bike is "confused" or "trying to be xyz." You can just appreciate a bike for what it is and describe what you enjoy and dislike about it lol. Maybe your feelings about the bike are confused and that's okay, you know

    • @ericwalkr910
      @ericwalkr910 3 роки тому

      @@pleasedontwatchthese9593 agreed all analytics based haha 😄

    • @fb4509
      @fb4509 3 роки тому +6

      I mean, I think he makes valid points of why the bike is confused AND not for him. It's both.

    • @JRico831
      @JRico831 3 роки тому +4

      I think it’s confused too. It’s a slow engine, in a fast looking bike, made for the street, that’s uncomfortable… Kawasaki put a fast engine, in a fast looking bike, and made it more comfortable for the street. Beyond that what beginner pays 11+ grand after fees and registration for a beginner bike you’re all but guaranteed to drop.

    • @trashpanda5356
      @trashpanda5356 Рік тому +2

      you should always buy what you want not what others tell you to buy your not getting a motorcycle for others enjoyment your getting it for your enjoyment so if you like the bike and it works for you then get it

  • @josebellorin3419
    @josebellorin3419 3 роки тому +69

    Love this channel but guys, there’s like 5 videos already talking about the same thing

    • @m1a1abrams3
      @m1a1abrams3 3 роки тому +9

      atleast it isnt like chase with 6 videos

    • @kg3Mali
      @kg3Mali 3 роки тому +3

      Well they are letting you know that if you get it they told you five or six times

    • @musicjnky1982
      @musicjnky1982 3 роки тому +4

      @@m1a1abrams3 I didn't realize how fat Chase had gotten. Watched a video the other day after not watching for 2 years.

    • @Losangelesmotorcycles
      @Losangelesmotorcycles 3 роки тому +2

      that what I just said!! they running out of ideas damn

    • @m1a1abrams3
      @m1a1abrams3 3 роки тому +4

      @@musicjnky1982 radical democrats will call you a fatphobic for making that statement. i, however, agree that chase should probs lose a little w8

  • @jbdoublewide8757
    @jbdoublewide8757 3 роки тому +39

    spites way to big for an R7 thats why it doesnt do it for you. the bike prolly is screaming for mercy

  • @brianpoklay7075
    @brianpoklay7075 3 роки тому +16

    At this point, I don't think you guys know what you like in certain motorcycles. Lots of mixed messages in your videos.

    • @brianpoklay7075
      @brianpoklay7075 3 роки тому +2

      @@pleasedontwatchthese9593 definitely not inexperienced, but the issues they have with one bike, they don't seem to say for other bikes with similar characteristics. It makes it hard to judge whether what they consider a fault is valid, or is it just minor nitpicking.

    • @ChrisWolf75
      @ChrisWolf75 2 роки тому

      They're just hard up for content they praise a bike as perfect one video then pick it apart in another it's starting to be very confusing 🙄

  • @jbdoublewide8757
    @jbdoublewide8757 3 роки тому +45

    i dont watch spite specific videos becuase he reminds me of a vegan aunt doing bike reviews

  • @suti211
    @suti211 3 роки тому +23

    What the heck? Two weeks ago it was the perfect beginner bike :D

    • @iamwritingrightnow8217
      @iamwritingrightnow8217 3 роки тому +5

      yeah they couldn‘t stop trashing the R6 for like 10 minutes.

    • @stanpotter7071
      @stanpotter7071 3 роки тому +1

      @@iamwritingrightnow8217 so, go somewhere else.

    • @colbyd.5044
      @colbyd.5044 3 роки тому

      Yeah he did

    • @ChrisWolf75
      @ChrisWolf75 2 роки тому +4

      Stan Potter no he's correct Yam and Spite do this all the time the bike's perfect one minute and then crap two videos later. The inconsistencies on this channel are starting to become ridiculous.

    • @WildBikerBill
      @WildBikerBill 2 роки тому

      Same channel, two different riders, two different perspectives on what works for them. So your problem is?

  • @darkherosolidox
    @darkherosolidox 3 роки тому +13

    I am not surprised that spite doesn't like the r7, since he doesn't like sport bikes period.

  • @drewthedogman9
    @drewthedogman9 3 роки тому +55

    So basically if you wanted mto7 that handles well, get an R7 and some handlebar risers

    • @b5thomas7
      @b5thomas7 3 роки тому +5

      You have a point. Or buy a used MT-07 on the cheap and upgrade it.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому +1

      Should not have to spend $8500 and then all the expenses of changing the top yolk, handle bars, levers, master cylinder. Switch gear.

    • @drewthedogman9
      @drewthedogman9 2 роки тому +2

      @@chrishart8548 30 years ago I installed a set of helibars on my CBR 600 F2 and transformed it into a sport tourer in about 20 minutes. Do they still make these?

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 роки тому

      @@drewthedogman9 I hope so I'm never having clip on style handle bars of any sort. I want a top yolk with clamps for handle bars every time.

  • @bob8086
    @bob8086 3 роки тому +28

    I think it’s a prefect beginner bike for someone who wants a “supersport” class bike, r6 was a little much for a first bike and r3 will be grown out of. You could have an r7 for a couple years on the street and not get bored of it as a first bike

    • @domtoretto3280
      @domtoretto3280 3 роки тому

      R3 is perfect for city driving. Newb or not.
      Burbs or country. Get the r7.

    • @2stroketyson79
      @2stroketyson79 Рік тому +2

      I dont think its a beginner bike at all & I think people should be held responsible who keep saying it is

  • @bk83082
    @bk83082 3 роки тому +56

    The bike is not confused at all. One only need browse their local track bike sales forum to see how many SV650s have been retrofitted with USD forks, clip-ons and full fairings.

    • @seeul8rwaynekerr
      @seeul8rwaynekerr 3 роки тому +5

      The sv650 simply beat the r7 to this trophy but 20 years previously.

    • @bowhunter6431
      @bowhunter6431 3 роки тому

      It is , it is an sv, wearing shitty clothes 👍

    • @lolwhat6193
      @lolwhat6193 Рік тому

      ​@@seeul8rwaynekerrthe R7 is the SV everyone wanted.

    • @seeul8rwaynekerr
      @seeul8rwaynekerr Рік тому

      @@lolwhat6193 no thankyou I'll take the vee twin any day. Much better balance off that engine.

    • @lolwhat6193
      @lolwhat6193 Рік тому

      @@seeul8rwaynekerr okay, you can see the R7 is better on paper and in the flesh. CP2 is some of the best twin power. And that engine is totally handicapped from factory. Just upgrading the head almost puts you at 100whp. That platform has potential for BIG gains

  • @gp8721
    @gp8721 Рік тому +9

    I’m 6’3” and so it’s quite difficult to find a sport bike that fits me well. I had a ninja 650 before my current R7 which was insanely comfortable, but it’s more of a sport touring bike and lacked the torque and power I wanted. The R7 is the most comfortable bike I’ve been on that has a true sport riding position. The speed isn’t much more than the 650 but the torque is really nice to have, making wheelies super easy. The gas mileage isn’t bad and the sound is amazing once you remove the stock cat/muffler system. For the price range, I think the R7 is one of the best options out there for someone who wants a sport bike that isn’t overkill but is still quick enough to be fun for a long time. But just like all bikes to ever exist, first and most importantly you just need to sit on it and see how it fits you personally. Other than things that come down to just personal preference, this bike is damn near perfect for its class imo. It’s also super light and easy to corner

    • @nbatalk4577
      @nbatalk4577 Рік тому

      Hows does it feel on a longer ride? I'm 6'3 as well and I'm looking at this bike as my first. But I feel like I'll be too hunched over on it.

  • @Shadowfex
    @Shadowfex 3 роки тому +69

    “As someone who’s wanting to go away from sport bikes, I’m gonna ride this sport bike and tell you why I don’t like this sport bike.”
    I get y’all need content. But please have it make sense to exist.

    • @iamwritingrightnow8217
      @iamwritingrightnow8217 3 роки тому +11

      The quality of this channel is really hit or miss. Especially sprite‘s content.

    • @stanpotter7071
      @stanpotter7071 3 роки тому +5

      @@iamwritingrightnow8217 then go somewhere else where someone cares.

    • @durim187
      @durim187 3 роки тому +1

      SPITE is the one who is confused lol

    • @Chestwolf
      @Chestwolf 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, Yammie, why don't you guys live in an echo chamber where you all agree on everything like a hive-mind. God forbid we hear different opinions from people who have different bike preferences. I personally enjoy the contrast of opinions between riders in case their personality/riding style doesn't cover an aspect I'm interested in.

    • @durim187
      @durim187 3 роки тому +2

      @@Chestwolf so you are going to listen to advice for a sport bike from someone who doesnt like sports bikes? That makes fucken sense.

  • @austinburley865
    @austinburley865 3 роки тому +35

    Let's all remember that spite also is a Harley boy at heart

  • @killerdeviant
    @killerdeviant 3 роки тому +9

    More like “confusing”. They put fairings and clip-ons on a mt-07 and want us to figure it out.

    • @jordanJohnn
      @jordanJohnn 3 роки тому +3

      not everyone wants a naked bike. they may however love/limited to the 700cc platform. this is a good option

  • @Chattahoche
    @Chattahoche 3 роки тому +10

    I would not call this expert bias or that the bike is confused, and instead say that you are just confused about what this bike was made for and why. You keep contradicting yourself all the way through the video.

  • @brextonridgdell8564
    @brextonridgdell8564 2 роки тому +3

    Every time I see the front end I just imagine a MT07 found a R6 front end and is wearing it as a hat saying “hi. I wanna go fast” lol

  • @rocketrollsvlogs7625
    @rocketrollsvlogs7625 3 роки тому +5

    I come to this channel for entertainment and it's consistency. The reviews don't work for me. The R7 is a nice step up in sport from a R3. The R3 is the buy for beginners. He knew he was invalid of the jump but didn't understand why.

  • @kinggodflow
    @kinggodflow 3 роки тому +12

    didn’t they just post a video praising this bike?

    • @stuartdavis5287
      @stuartdavis5287 3 роки тому +5

      yes, yes they did...

    • @jeffbrownme2
      @jeffbrownme2 3 роки тому +5

      I mean the whole channel makes a lot of it's money on raffling out these bikes. They're not going to completely dog a bike they just purchased and want to basically sell to us via the raffles. If I were to guess I would bet Yammi privately holds a lot of these viewpoints on the R7, but Spikes their punching bag for all negative things sport bike related. It's hard to take all of what they say seriously on any bike they sell off.

    • @daveshultz3789
      @daveshultz3789 3 роки тому +5

      @@jeffbrownme2 I was wondering if I’m the only one…good to know I’m not. I still watch because it’s entertaining and I like to see other bikes but it’s hard to push through all the waffling on stances lately.

    • @jeffbrownme2
      @jeffbrownme2 3 роки тому +2

      @@daveshultz3789 Yea def still entertaining and even on their reviews of the bikes they're selling you can parse through the BS most of the time and tell what they really like. But it's hard to find legit reviews anywhere in the motorcycle world. Most can't afford to straight up shit on a bike even if they aren't buying them. Big motorcycle companies fly these people out for launch events and it's a lot of pressure to stay in those good graces.

    • @fb4509
      @fb4509 3 роки тому +1

      @@Bugside because they didnt get their confirmation bias in one of the videos. Lol

  • @strategic_confusion6670
    @strategic_confusion6670 3 роки тому +17

    Bruh someone hook spite up on a metal record with how he said “suck”

  • @stuartdavis5287
    @stuartdavis5287 3 роки тому +15

    This bike is not confused at all. It's a sportbike that was designed for street riders, and that's exactly what it is... The ergos are for someone who goes to the track on occasion and they probably only have one bike to do it all with.

    • @pauls1814
      @pauls1814 3 роки тому +1

      I know a lot of street riders and idk anyone who says "I wish I had 80 hp." Looks like they were targeting a rookie street rider... most ppl will outgrow this after their first 1-2 yrs it just doesn't have enough

    • @stuartdavis5287
      @stuartdavis5287 3 роки тому +1

      @@pauls1814 yeah it’s a beginner bike

  • @itsme_Dio
    @itsme_Dio 3 роки тому +7

    The R7, the bike for people scared of getting an R6 lol jkjk

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому +5

      It's an R6 with a lawnmower engine!

    • @THEREALZENFORCE
      @THEREALZENFORCE 3 роки тому +3

      The R6, the bike for people scared of getting a 2006 GSXR-1000 lol

  • @j.moto3435
    @j.moto3435 3 роки тому +30

    The R7 is not confused. It has a much steeper rake in the front, a shorter trail in the rear, and the riders weight over the front tire. This bike was made to destroy corners and be stable doing it.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому +8

      The riding position is too focused for road use. Would make sense on a track. But then the engine doesn't make sense on the track. It's literally a sports bike without the engine.

    • @j.moto3435
      @j.moto3435 3 роки тому +4

      @@chrishart8548 it's a Moto America twins cup race bike which is a potent machine. The MT-07 twins cup bike is good enough for the professional racer so it's good enough for me. I'm not a professional.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому +2

      @@j.moto3435 how much hp does it make? I guess if its on track and they have the same power it's all fair. The cb500 Cup was good. But then again that was a great road bike. And even the S version with the half fairing was no worse.

    • @Rreptillian
      @Rreptillian 2 роки тому

      @@j.moto3435 I think it just needs a new camshaft and maybe airbox. Just moving the torque peak up in the rev range would increase power output and probably get much closer to the competition in the RS660

    • @leanit5756
      @leanit5756 2 роки тому +1

      Yep, if a rider is slow on twisty roads on this bike, it isn't the bike or its power output.

  • @jasong546
    @jasong546 3 роки тому +6

    I like this review spite, cool to be straight about whether it’s right for you.

  • @JRico831
    @JRico831 3 роки тому +2

    My 21 zx6 was 10k…9 grand isn’t reasonable for a plain bike like this. I feel like the biggest draw for the r7 is that cagers will think you have bad ass in-line 4 and you can go stupid fast, even though you don’t and you can’t.

  • @icsohan4269
    @icsohan4269 3 роки тому +9

    I have 2 R7's in my garage the ride immaculate it's an amazing bike and it matches your riding style for whoever you are. But my question is why are you in six gear on the interstate no wonder it's not taking off???

    • @KpopNiDontStop
      @KpopNiDontStop Рік тому

      Yeah I notice in many vids he is never in the right gear's LOL.

  • @malcadorthesigillite2541
    @malcadorthesigillite2541 3 роки тому +7

    Discontinueing the R6 & offering the pretender R7 was a dumb move.

    • @skippypeanutbutter9136
      @skippypeanutbutter9136 3 роки тому +2

      thanks global elite for using fear porn to ensure votes for leftists who force these things to happen

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      A lot cheaper to make the R7 half the engine steel frame etc. Getting so expensive to make bikes everything will be parallel twin's soon! No v-twins no triples no fours no V4's

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      @@adolfshitler don't expect any brand new design ktm bikes to have a v-twin. Honda have already cancelled the v4 bikes . Let's hope ducati & harley Davidson . Can keep it going. Suzuki already make a 250 v-strom without the v-twin engine.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому +1

      @@adolfshitler the crank degree thing is absolute nonsense. 270° crankshaft has been around forever and they market it like your getting a v-twin. I bet without the sound know one would ever know the difference.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      The Tdm850 changed to a 270° crankshaft partway through production before it became a tdm900 did it really make any difference.

  • @NA-nc5dg
    @NA-nc5dg 3 роки тому +36

    I think his personal bias is apparent. It doesn't fit his personal goals and therefore is not what he wants. Fair. It's an opinion article (Video). It would make more sense for him to take a look into the Tenere 700 if he wants to give us a valid opinion on the platform as it relates to his goals.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      Sounded like the engine is not up to his standards. Having to change down to many gear and to many rpm's

    • @ganuvien
      @ganuvien 3 роки тому

      @@chrishart8548 He's a big dude so I bet sportbikes aren't his forte like me. The CP2 in my XSR700 prefers 6k-9k rpms for max torque and a tune made it smoother and don't need to shift as much with how torquey it is. He doesn't ride it how it's meant to be and shifts too early.

    • @NA-nc5dg
      @NA-nc5dg 3 роки тому

      @@ganuvien no doubt

  • @jtaylorb88
    @jtaylorb88 3 роки тому +5

    My insurance for the MT-07 $41 to add a R7 brought it up to $189 a month! Screw that

    • @garavonhoiwkenzoiber
      @garavonhoiwkenzoiber 3 роки тому +2

      Naked bikes are often cheaper, less plastic to break. It's why I'm planning to get a CB650F rather than a CBR650R for my first bike

    • @MrKillervincent
      @MrKillervincent 3 роки тому +1

      Sports riders ride sporty bikes so insurance companies charge more

    • @garavonhoiwkenzoiber
      @garavonhoiwkenzoiber 3 роки тому +1

      @@MrKillervincent that too, no doubt. Which is silly because a lot of these naked bikes are literally the same frame, engine, etc just naked.
      Like, I can't be a hooligan because I'm on a naked? Lol

    • @nihonkokusai
      @nihonkokusai 2 роки тому

      @@garavonhoiwkenzoiber I guess thanks to thid channel even the insurance is hyped.

  • @HariShankar-dw2pn
    @HariShankar-dw2pn 3 роки тому +4

    Its like elephant riding a horse and complaining about it, get a harley, but damn yamaha really must have given it like 95hp

  • @unkindguy88
    @unkindguy88 3 роки тому +6

    Do not board the hype train, you'll regret it.

  • @MrKillervincent
    @MrKillervincent 3 роки тому +4

    For £100 less in most countries other than America you can get yourself a cbr650r then this really makes no sense 😂 never thought it would work when they cancelled the r6 tbh

  • @alphaomega4563
    @alphaomega4563 3 роки тому +7

    Oh Spite, just buy a new Gen manual 6 speed goldwing with out the grandpa trunk and put some knobies on it when you wanna go off road 😋

  • @LunringNassar
    @LunringNassar 3 роки тому +10

    Man hypes up the R7, tells you to get something else.
    ok

    • @R1___
      @R1___ 3 роки тому +5

      😆 man just get whatever u love dont listen to anyone

  • @MiggyDLegend
    @MiggyDLegend 3 роки тому +4

    I feel this is a Ninja 650 with sport fairings; to me not worth it at all. For a beginner bike, instead of going into an R6 and have an accident on it because it is more aggressive, the R7 is more forgiven in that aspect.

  • @hommuside
    @hommuside 3 роки тому +4

    You said it Spike, your someone getting into ADV and off road riding - course you’re not gonna get the R7

  • @jonathonblom
    @jonathonblom 3 роки тому +8

    the honda cbr 650r is the best compromise for track and street riding, i think it beats the r7 easy mostly because the r7 is just a slow boy

  • @gunnygoesel626
    @gunnygoesel626 3 роки тому +17

    Awesome Video again
    I feel like the cp2 engine feels good in the t7 and mt07 so I get your opinion
    Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

    • @benyaeast4741
      @benyaeast4741 3 роки тому +2

      man ive been trying to get my A licence and this dekra is taking way too long here in berlin to give me a test time, only 2 weeks before they close for winter 😅😅

    • @gunnygoesel626
      @gunnygoesel626 3 роки тому

      @@benyaeast4741 👌 I’ve got mine about three month ago

  • @婆婆-l6f
    @婆婆-l6f 3 роки тому +5

    I am very confused didnt u say the R7 is really good in an older video

    • @stuartdavis5287
      @stuartdavis5287 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah but they are milking the bike for clicks

  • @Drip-Soup
    @Drip-Soup Рік тому +1

    I love how this guy doesn't just shit on the bike because it's not his style of bike. Props to him for real. It is different than what he likes, and he is clear about stating his opinions from the opinion of someone who wants to change the style of riding they do.

  • @jordanJohnn
    @jordanJohnn 3 роки тому +4

    the r7 is just a cool supersport looking mt07 for people who just don't like naked bikes....yet. which is so much more common then you guys like to think in the beginner community. let them have there cool looking bikes. it's a different flavour for a great platform engine and I think it will sell exceptionally well in places like Australia where we are limited to bike options for our first couple years of riding.

  • @Nebrophonus93
    @Nebrophonus93 3 роки тому +2

    Considering its more expensive then a CBR650R and barely cheaper than a RS660 in Germany i dont know what Yamaha is thinking

  • @ryancraig2795
    @ryancraig2795 3 роки тому +13

    I don't think it's confused, just narrowly focused like most sport bikes.

    • @ryancraig2795
      @ryancraig2795 3 роки тому +1

      Having said that, if I was going to buy something this narrowly focused, I'd probably prefer something with a little higher power to weight ratio. Just for grins - I'm sure I couldn't ride this to its limits in the twisties or on the track

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому +2

      @@ryancraig2795 I bet you could. It's narrowly focused on two different things. It's like putting a 1.3 engine In a lambo it would make a lot of sense for normal use, but the design itself is hugely impractical. Solved the fuel cost and servicing issues though.

  • @ollihook
    @ollihook 3 роки тому +27

    Would be interesting to see cbr650r against therse two bikes (r7 and rs660)

    • @Villani_AV
      @Villani_AV 3 роки тому +5

      @@adolfshitler I mean the Aprilia is probably faster than the cbr650r, I have a cbr650r, but the cbr is most likely more comfortable. I did 900 miles in 3 days on my cbr, I don't think I could pull that off an any Aprilia but then again I'm 6'3

    • @Villani_AV
      @Villani_AV 3 роки тому

      @@adolfshitler good thing I said Aprilia and not triumph

    • @Villani_AV
      @Villani_AV 3 роки тому +3

      @@adolfshitler the ergos on that old Daytona are more similar to the cbr650r, I road one and a sprint st before deciding to go new with the Honda. Love those older triumphs though, so good

    • @NinjaKid1985
      @NinjaKid1985 3 роки тому +3

      Objective of these three the Aprilia wins it hands down! I've riden it and will buy one when I come across a good deal. The electronics work great. The quickshifter with bliper works like butter, feels great and the bike is not only beautyfull looking but also very comfortable. Forks and shock are adjustable. The Sound is amazing. Sounds very similar to older Ducatis. Eventhough it's only a 660. But when you look at it subjective, if you don't like 2cyl. But 4cyl. or if you have concerns in reliability and you are not interested in all the electfonics + adjustability in your suspension than maybe the CBR650R is the bike for you. The R7 is just to underpowerd, I stand to my opinion that they should have build a R9 instead of the R7. The step from R3 to R7 is just to small, eventhough I understand that it makes more sense buisness wise with all the regulations for new and or beginer riders and in Europe with the A2 regulations...

    • @Motoboo_Marine
      @Motoboo_Marine 3 роки тому

      @@NinjaKid1985 Yamaha *is* building an R9 though. Every MT bike will have an R counterpart.

  • @burt101welly6
    @burt101welly6 2 роки тому +1

    Love the honesty on this review

  • @miket3taylor
    @miket3taylor 3 роки тому +1

    You are going wayyyy too deep with it bro. The bike isn't confused, you are. There are plenty of wannabe sport bikes out there. This is just another one of them. Looks and kinda feels like a sportbike. But it's not. It's for the person who wants to look the part, not actually play it. For the brand out of the big 4 that's the most expensive almost every year to be using the same equipment on different is BS honestly. They are all horrible for it now. I just bought 2021 zx6r, and at a glance on the showroom floor, all there sport styled bikes look the same. They use the same equipment. They all use the exact same taillight.

  • @jamesgreen1819
    @jamesgreen1819 3 роки тому +5

    You may as well get an R6 for the track.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely right or an old cbr600rr

  • @Monkeyboy2457
    @Monkeyboy2457 Рік тому +1

    It should have been called an MT - R7 and not a YZF - R7 so that customers are not confused about it being a superbike.

  • @antoniof.7421
    @antoniof.7421 3 роки тому +2

    Key word here is Experience: people buying the R7 just don't care about the fact that the MT-07 is more comfortable, they just want the experience of riding a sport bike, and the R7 is perfect for that.

  • @thingsyouhavemissedoutonti8185
    @thingsyouhavemissedoutonti8185 3 роки тому +3

    3:30
    Spite: "I want to say something really fast."
    - Carried on to talk slowly.
    LOL! Just kidding! ✌🏼😂
    We love you, dude! We want to see you giving tips on how to ride cruisers again. 😅

  • @JA-zh5xi
    @JA-zh5xi 3 роки тому +4

    I’m surprised by your conclusions, but it makes sense. I was sure you guys would have lived the thing.

    • @AimedGalaxy
      @AimedGalaxy 3 роки тому

      That’s the thing, yam loves it, spite doesnt

  • @offthebooksmusic
    @offthebooksmusic 3 роки тому +2

    i’ve yet to ride one but since it’s basically an mt07 with plastics and clip-ons, i can definitely vibe with that. probably gonna buy one next year!

  • @DakuJTenshi
    @DakuJTenshi 3 роки тому +2

    You either hate or love this bike. My guy. You can't give this bike away saying you love it. But also hate it? Make up your minds

  • @leanit5756
    @leanit5756 2 роки тому +1

    Sport bike ergos aren't for everyone. Despite being deep in my 50s, I am in good physical shape and am fine with them. Haha, "no punch in 6th gear on the highway"? My R1s had no punch in 6th gear on the highway... I would shift them down too... well actually I would also cruise in 4th or 5th since they are geared so high.

  • @dhowting
    @dhowting 3 роки тому +2

    Oh.......so me saying to take the Aprilia RS660 all along despite of its higher price tag?.....yeah 🤪

  • @Ph0enix7373
    @Ph0enix7373 3 роки тому +14

    Its an mt07 that looks cool, all i could ask for is comfy seating position on an amazing lookin bike like the r7

    • @sterman7632
      @sterman7632 3 роки тому +1

      it's sport bike if you want comfy amazing looking bike go with mt07 if you want to chase corners go with r7 it's that easy you can't have both

    • @Ja_Mes
      @Ja_Mes 3 роки тому +1

      Get an RS660

    • @wargolemx102
      @wargolemx102 3 роки тому

      @@sterman7632 How come he can't? They can raise the handle bars and that's it - a bike that's a lot more comfortable than the R7.

    • @sterman7632
      @sterman7632 3 роки тому

      @@wargolemx102 wut?

    • @NA-nc5dg
      @NA-nc5dg 3 роки тому +2

      @@Ja_Mes To many electronics for me. Tracking my two R7's means the less electronic interference the better. Bet I still smoke some RS660's.

  • @andycochrane4131
    @andycochrane4131 2 роки тому +2

    In Australia, learner limit is 660cc. Makes perfect sense for new riders who want a simple, sports feeling bike. Don’t see the rationale for other countries.

  • @apexriders_
    @apexriders_ 3 роки тому +1

    Replace this guy. He’s so passive. The bike gets offended when he rode it.

  • @jdamage68
    @jdamage68 3 роки тому +1

    If this is a "Beginner Bike" shouldn't you have a beginner rating it? Expert riders can't experience beginner anymore.. You guys should have a beginner rate what they like about it. To me it's like a person that knows how to cook a steak and what it's supposed to taste like, compared to a person that can't cook but is learning and burnt steak actually taste fine to them.

  • @englishsteel-nz6im
    @englishsteel-nz6im 3 роки тому +11

    It's just underpowered--- and before anybody comes in and says "well for the street rah rah...." -- sure, but the CBR650 is pushing 95HP? Rs660 via Aprilia 100-- that's what we're asking for. The sweet spot is a linear, torque-y, road oriented 100-115 HP range for an ideal road oriented sport bike. Ducati nailed it with the SuperSport S but the price of course is much more.
    The R7 at 100HP would sell amazingly.

    • @danmidg7673
      @danmidg7673 3 роки тому

      Both bikes are more expensive want more power spend more money it cost a lot to build a new engine for Yamaha

    • @sirtrizzle6272
      @sirtrizzle6272 3 роки тому

      The R7 has been selling out around my area.

    • @englishsteel-nz6im
      @englishsteel-nz6im 3 роки тому +2

      @@adolfshitler I have several bikes including an SV650--- I have the SV for just zipping around town or a local twisty and it's great for that. For a proper faired sportbike tho you will want more power-- that is if you're intermediate and up in skill level.

  • @CBRRR-sz9xv
    @CBRRR-sz9xv 3 роки тому +2

    I can respect your opinion and can understand where your coming from I'm 35 and have road all kinds of bikes and to me the best street bike to ride is the 07-08 cbr600rr it's light, has linear power handles like a dream better then any 1000cc or 600cc I've ridden and I can sit up decently comfy when I want too but still get the power for straight aways,wheelies and awesome fun on the twisties without the overkill of power that the liter bikes give and don't have any of those rider adds it's just all you controlling the bike those 2 years honda made something special before the bullshit emissions changes if anyone is thinking of getting a R7 I'd recommend looking at the 07-08 cbr600rr that bike is better in almost every way and cheaper but probably won't be as cheap in the next couple years since they don't make cbr600rr here anymore in the US it'll probably go up in value eventually

  • @pdutube
    @pdutube 3 роки тому +4

    I love the R7. I'm not going to get one because I'm a Kawasaki simp but I think it's really cool.

    • @MiggyDLegend
      @MiggyDLegend 3 роки тому +1

      If you are a Kawasaki simp like me, then might as well get the 650 which is almost the same in my opinion.

    • @pdutube
      @pdutube 3 роки тому

      @@MiggyDLegend Got one.

  • @AllTheRamenOnTheSky
    @AllTheRamenOnTheSky 3 роки тому +10

    Looked at thumbnail, "huh, must be a Spite video"
    Plays video, Spite starts talking
    *Stops video*
    No thanks. I'm sorry, but I find your opinions on sport bikes to be goofy. I have no plans of getting something else 'cause you say the BIKE is confused and you don't like it.
    I will say this, even though opinions on this channel seem to flip / flop more than a fish out of water, at least you guys are honest. You don't just shill something even if it is a give away bike. I see that as being objective which is a respectable trait to have

    • @oon3laststando
      @oon3laststando 3 роки тому

      not a sport bike

    • @AllTheRamenOnTheSky
      @AllTheRamenOnTheSky 3 роки тому +1

      @@oon3laststando My bad, you're right. It's clearly a scooter. Had to watch it again with my glasses on.

  • @phatphobic
    @phatphobic 3 роки тому +4

    No spite no

  • @Akkus_stuff
    @Akkus_stuff 3 роки тому +2

    So your saying this bike is bad because of it's a aggressive ergonomics and you can't control yourself

  • @random_cocaine4667
    @random_cocaine4667 3 роки тому +44

    spite logic: ride a sport bike
    complain: its a sportsbike not a comfortable ADV
    its same as eating eating a STEAK and complaining its not a chocolate cake
    although what he says makes sense but aren't all 650cc SS bikes are like this? (exception Ducati SS950 & ninja650)

    • @Nickvdb93
      @Nickvdb93 3 роки тому +8

      I think first of all Spite is confused

    • @BSBBandFitness
      @BSBBandFitness 3 роки тому +2

      How is the Ducati a 650 cc? The number itself proves it’s not a 650. That like me saying my Ducati monster 1200 is like my Vstrom 650

    • @random_cocaine4667
      @random_cocaine4667 3 роки тому

      @@BSBBandFitness i said ducati SS950
      beacuse
      1. spite wants to ride "sports tourer" & not an alllout sportsbike.
      2. Ducati's sports tourer was SS950 since they don't make 650cc class bikes.

    • @random_cocaine4667
      @random_cocaine4667 3 роки тому

      ​@@Nickvdb93 he's not confused, he's right about the engine configuration being not suitable for the type of bike, essentially making the point of the video MT07 > R7 in terms of practicality
      but since Spite is more touring biased hes expecting too much comfort from what is essentially a sportsbike , instead he should not have this as a "Problem" in the video that its not a sports tourer comfortable like BMW R1250RT or Kawasaki ninja 650/1000.
      but his perspective still is valuable to people, since alot of touring guys want to buy a sportsbike but can't since they know they will be uncomfortable on them.

  • @jonathanrodela1024
    @jonathanrodela1024 3 роки тому +4

    Just spend your money on a used R6 or something similar. Why do you have to buy a new bike? Talking to new riders here.

    • @ericphillips955
      @ericphillips955 3 роки тому +2

      Personally, someone can easily trick you into buying a clapped out bike by making it look good. I trust the dealership for quality . It is more expensive but it’s more likely you’ll get a bike with no issues. Plus you get a warranty . Buying a used r6 and it has blown forks or some other mechanical issue is the fear for me

  • @Rusorak
    @Rusorak 3 роки тому +5

    You're right, Spite. Things like RS660 and CBR650R makes more sense for road oriented sportbike. Yamaha with R7 was trying to fill the hole in their portfolio with minimum effort. I think that Ninja 650 makes more sense than that I-want-to-be-a-sportbike-thing because Kawi has sport-touring ergo, feeling and powerband - it just don't pretend to be a sportbike. (And now I'm counted as Kawi fanboi 😅) CP2 is a good engine but I don't feel it in sportbike package. That's what makes this bike wrong. It will be not enough for rest of the package in long run. It will make you frustrated because you will sit on the bike and feel that sportiness but engine will never have that feeling. I think that Yamaha made poor trick to take our money. If I were looking for midrange sportbike I will look for a Honda or pay more for Aprilia. Sorry Yamaha, you failed with this bike. But it doesn't matter because Yamaha fanbois will glorify this bike forever, even if it not deserves it.

  • @dalerr18
    @dalerr18 3 роки тому +4

    CBR650R comparison plz

  • @randomzzzz5765
    @randomzzzz5765 3 роки тому +5

    Pheww i thought yammie who said this 😂😂

  • @rudivn1
    @rudivn1 3 роки тому +1

    Geez I hate the sound of a twin. In line 4 (not crossplane) for life.

  • @Second_Opinion_2
    @Second_Opinion_2 3 роки тому +3

    There was zero percent objective information presented here, in a nutshell your review is equivalent to *_I don't like the color_*

  • @NorthernMigrationTravel
    @NorthernMigrationTravel 3 роки тому +2

    Some of those sand spots on that road look super dangerous!

  • @motojuve8673
    @motojuve8673 3 роки тому +2

    Also with an air filter in an exhaust it’s a whole different ball game the crackles and pops it sounds like a mixture of an r1 and a Harley

  • @Sphinx681
    @Sphinx681 2 роки тому +1

    IMO fits me great!! This bike is badass to me … everyone has their own opinion … Yammie just might he be too tall or big for this bike … but for me this bike fits perfect… enough power for me … like you constantly hit 100 mph everyday .. this bike is smooth and quick enough …

  • @awesomeerr8765
    @awesomeerr8765 3 роки тому

    This bike isn't confused. Youre just not the intended customer.

  • @Zeroleon
    @Zeroleon 3 роки тому +1

    You are uncomfortable on a sports bike??? What a shocker

  • @rolandoalcala9410
    @rolandoalcala9410 3 роки тому +14

    You guys are just confusing people now😅

  • @Daniel-vu4qu
    @Daniel-vu4qu 3 роки тому +1

    Spite is such a wet blanket.

  • @tarnishedsquid2967
    @tarnishedsquid2967 3 роки тому +4

    I feel you. This would be a better bike with ninja 650 ergos. Just seems silly to have agressive ergos for a 70hp motorcycle.

    • @rem362
      @rem362 3 роки тому +1

      It's not silly it's super fun. I have a SV650s. It is similar to the R7 with sporty ergos and a Vtwin. I feel bored on upright bikes. Something like the R7 or the SV retain the awesome handling and torque of twins but have the fun seating positions of a super sport. Throwing it around twisties is just awesome and you have the perfect amount of usable power

    • @tarnishedsquid2967
      @tarnishedsquid2967 3 роки тому +1

      To each they're own I guess. If I have supersport ergos I want supersport peformance. (screaming I-4)

  • @hellfire08
    @hellfire08 3 роки тому +3

    This is a bad review and you should feel bad.

  • @flip_moto
    @flip_moto 3 роки тому +5

    heard through the grapevine yamaha gonna dump a shit ton of money in moto America to get some R7s on the podium in twins cup. should be an interesting 2022 season and a must watch.

  • @GuakDian
    @GuakDian 2 роки тому +1

    Weekend sport bike rider… that’s me, I’ll take it

  • @chrism6880
    @chrism6880 3 роки тому +3

    I'd like to see them add a built in dash/action cam as an option to replace the little light inside the fake ram air

  • @ransomedavis2208
    @ransomedavis2208 Рік тому

    you can always put risers on the handle bars to gain height making it more comfortable.

  • @hellfire08
    @hellfire08 3 роки тому +2

    What kind of name even is “spite”

  • @coastalhillbilly3419
    @coastalhillbilly3419 3 роки тому +2

    Should of named it the R-CZ
    R-Cubic Zirconia

  • @ridetheapex
    @ridetheapex 3 роки тому +2

    Wait, wait....
    Is this the first time yall are not over hyping a givaway bike?

  • @lance7735
    @lance7735 3 роки тому +9

    Okay, but. WHERE IS THE TURBO BUUUUUUUSAAAA

    • @alfiejones4253
      @alfiejones4253 3 роки тому +2

      It's done. They'll show when they hit 1mil

  • @fortyinthestreets
    @fortyinthestreets 3 роки тому +3

    When you review a sport bike and complain about the seating position, your the one that’s confused

  • @moral974
    @moral974 3 роки тому +3

    This video was made just for the sake of making an another yamaha R7 video i expected better from this channel

  • @jamesking2130
    @jamesking2130 3 роки тому +1

    So you say you want to start transitioning into adventure and off road riding and then start complaining about how you don't like a sport bike? No shit Sherlock obviously you won't be into it

  • @azuma9051
    @azuma9051 3 роки тому +4

    Maybe Tracer7 makes a better sense for Spite? well too bad they’re Europe exclusive though, they’re not even available in Japan

  • @edsweitzer9553
    @edsweitzer9553 3 роки тому +1

    Gsxr 750 from the year 2000
    Earlier to newer I'd like to hear more about this bike again.
    Probably been done to death but I do love the bike that destroyed the 750 class and ran with the big dogs.

  • @inzaneartworks3109
    @inzaneartworks3109 3 роки тому +19

    I've stopped watching most of your videos. I used to love all of them. I understand it's a business and negative headlines and thumbnails get more people to click on the video, which is sad. I love motorcycles, all of them, and I don't care to always hear how terrible they are. Whitney brings a ton of positivity to your channel, more of her please. I hope this is taken as helpful criticism.

    • @Losangelesmotorcycles
      @Losangelesmotorcycles 3 роки тому +3

      thank you, agreed. I think at some point all these channels cross the threshold of homie fun videos ...to its a business and we need click then they turn to shit. the same happened to blockhead channel .

    • @andrer1528
      @andrer1528 3 роки тому

      Same here buddy

    • @My_internet_persona33
      @My_internet_persona33 3 роки тому +2

      They're definitely overly critical, which sucks because people who don't ride don't understand that almost anything on 2 wheels is awesome fun.

    • @inzaneartworks3109
      @inzaneartworks3109 3 роки тому +1

      @@My_internet_persona33 I agree. I have just as much fun on my Svartpilen 701 as I do on my gsxr600 👍🏻

    • @andrer1528
      @andrer1528 3 роки тому

      @@inzaneartworks3109 that I believe! Cool

  • @skippypeanutbutter9136
    @skippypeanutbutter9136 3 роки тому +2

    They need to change cam profiles for the R7 and trick out the valve train for a bit more top end and peak power. Doesn't have to be a 16,000 RPM screamer to accomplish this. You could afford to sacrifice 10-15 ft-lbs of torque in the bottom end for the gain of another ~25 hp in the mid/top end and still have something very streetable. Making this bike a force to compete with multiple platforms including the RS660, the Ninja650 & ZX6R among others.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      Don't think you ment ninja650 maybe ninja-636 ?

    • @skippypeanutbutter9136
      @skippypeanutbutter9136 3 роки тому

      @@chrishart8548 guess you don't read or don't know what a zx6r is? (hint: they're the same bike)

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      @@skippypeanutbutter9136 a ninja 650 (twin cylinder 67hp) is not the same as a zx6R ( 4 cylinder 128hp)

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      @@skippypeanutbutter9136 I was going to buy a ZX6R in 1999 but I crashed my 1989 gpz500s would have been a good upgrade. But I gave up riding for a bit after that the gpz ended up in about 100 pieces and I smashed my leg up. So couldn't ride for ages anyway.

    • @skippypeanutbutter9136
      @skippypeanutbutter9136 3 роки тому

      @@chrishart8548 no shit shirlock? ninja 636 is the same as zx6r