I’m looking forward to a revzilla track day with this bike. Really want to know top speed and is it worth have as a track day only bike vs a used super sport.
It’s a good bike for those interested in track days, but will do daily stuff 90% of the time. They don’t have to buy an MT-07 and do all kinds of aftermarket stuff to make it track prepped. In that way it does “make sense.”
@@jameswylie6671 some want a new bike for the track. And in the middle weight class the SV650 are kings. The R7 is basically a SV650 that is track ready
@@wolfgangrembeck Idk I still don't get it. A new bike for the track sounds like you'll just be too scared of scratching it to really push it to its limits
@@jameswylie6671 i totally agree with you. I would even buy the gladius since it's the same bike, just cheaper, and put full fairings on it. But i know some people who can only ride new bikes, even on the track
@@Jay-yg8jj God he was an idiot back then. I also stopped watching for a couple years around that time. He's gotten older and less noobish, also has hired some new castmembers/staff that help make it fun. Became a track boi and doesn't street Rossi as badly. Probably the some of the funniest motorcycle content on the interwebs honestly. (If not exactly as enlightened as what you get from, say, a Zach Courts or a Michael Neeves.)
Just bought an R7, and I love how it's fun and sporty. It feels like a super sport with the clip-ons, but doesn't have insane power which I like. I don't have the opportunity to really use a bike with 100+ horsepower often, and I love the low end torque on this. I also just use it as a good weather commuter and a weekend bike.
I feel like this is similar to what Nissan did to the S13-S14 240SX in the US. They took a pretty capable chassis and stuck a low revving/low hp engine in it (KA24) while the rest of the world got a higher performance/higher revving engine (SR20) that suits the purpose of the car much more. Just like the 240SX became really popular once they became old enough that people start swapping engines, this bike might be popular in 10 years when there are big bore kits, higher revving cams, and if they cracked the ECU increasing the redline.
I would have like to see the rider triangle split the difference between a R3 and R6. That is now what I would like to see with an R9. Pegs need to be high enough for track use, but the bars should be high enough for reasonably comfortable street use.
I’m so glad Yamaha released this bike. I bought my first bike (ninja 300) about 5yrs ago and I love it but at the track you need more ground clearance and the suspension is definitely built to price point. A little more power wouldn’t hurt either and the R7 solves those issues so I feel like it was built for a buyer like me in mind
you should have gone with something more powerful. trust me you can handle it. right now you are just sacraficing all the comfort for non of the performance
Depends on the usage a lot of People like me whod like to daily it dont need that much power. Also the r7 has really good low end speed and you dont even need the top speed daily
I don't understand why Yamaha made the R7, a MT-07 in a track bike package to ride uncomfortably on the street. You're better off just getting a MT-07. I wish Yamaha would redesign the MT-10 already.
Mt07 is ridiculously ugly. R7 will be the next big stuntbike. Extremely reliable, motor has tons of torque, only downside on the MT07 was the garbage fork and tank that was hard to modify (it was plastic tank with shroud). MT07 is the fastest growing stunt bike and this is better in every category. Just need others to wreck them so we can buy them for cheap lol
Zack this is such a awsome series. Would enjoy seeing a close up of the tally board as a final view once you end your daily rider review. Thanks for all your efforts. Damn I'd sure like to ride all those bikes!
As someone who owns an R7 as has put 5k miles in 2 months, here is my take. I am 5’6 215 lbs. I ride it as my daily and I do about 100-200 miles a day for work. When I first got the bike I rode it immediately to Laguna Seca for MotoAmerica from Los Angeles. Came back with about 900miles. I stopped every 100 miles for gas although I could’ve went more. My wrists were killing me on long rides and my left knee is bad and was hurting as well. However, that is on stock setup. Ergonomics is very important. I setup up my suspension the best I can thanks to Dave Moss, and I adjusted the bars and pushed them out a little as to get the weight off my wrists. MUCH better ride now. I can do a 100mile ride and have no pain now. Note that my ass or back have never hurt on a ride. Honestly i believe it is the best sport bike for the street u can get. Has the power u need, fully adjustable suspension which can costs tons of money, blinkers come with emergency lights, slipper clutch, good front brakes and brembo master cylinder. For the value it is pretty damn good. Sure it’s not the most comfortable due to the aggressiveness but if u were gonna get an R6 or other aggressive bike this would be a better option. Looks bitchin, feels nimble and light as hell in the turns and is fun as fuck in canyons. Has the torque to have fun with wheelies. The seat is very large and very comfortable. I also rode to the desert and on my way back I was able to get 160miles non stop to my home on one tank. That’s probably the closest Ill get to Yamahas mpg lol. An amazing bike that people are bashing before they even ride it. Take it from someone who has put in the miles on this bike. It’s worth it and it does make sense.
I hope Yamaha brings out the R9 in the future with that same aggressive ergonomics package so it can be a Japanese reincarnation of the Daytona. Because the world needs another Daytona!
@@sterlingroberts6240the r7 is there because making euro 5 r6 is more costly and prob will end up like cbr 600 where they make it euro 4 and then change the ruling into euro5 making the bike a loss machine lol
@@sabbathperalta4119 The Daytona 660 is a fine middleweight sports tourer, but when compared to its latest predecessor its a terrible track alternative. Less aggressive ergonomics, non adjustable suspension, notably less power, and all around more budget components. If a person wants a sport touring style bike, its great, but its not a supersport.
I don’t understand why they discontinued the r6 as a road bike. I heard it was because it didn’t meet Euro5, but the race version now DOES meet Euro5 meaning the engine is allowed for road use.
My guess would be because it’s probably a lot cheaper for them because they can use the engine, wheels etc. from the MT07, XSR700 and don’t have to design/produce as much specifically for the R7. It’s what most car and also bike manufacturers do nowadays to cut cost
It would be great if you guys could include metric conversions. I understand that this would be tricky for the host, maybe just as an on-screen text when he mentions something?
It's pretty amazing how well the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 is holding up against other more high-end bikes. It seems to be the sweet spot in so many ways: price, performance, comfort, and ease of maintenance.
Yea but it just looks ugly as shit...same reason why I dont want to get SV650, one of the best (if not the best) motorcycles in naked category with 650cc, but it just looks old and ugly as shit.
I have a MT-07 and love the CP2 engine but Yamaha should have bumped up the power on the R7. I'm sure they were trying to save money and keep this priced as competitively as they can though. This bike paired with a Hordpower intake, exhaust, and tune would probably be pretty fun if the setup on my bike is anything to go by.
Seems like the cbr650r is a better choice. More relaxed ergos, 4 cylinder for highway, better build quality. This engine is just perfect for a naked, city bike.
Theres nothing wrong with yamaha build quality .... ive never even heard anybody say there is, where did you get that from? I've worked on plenty of yamahas in my garage, and never seen a single issue with their quality.
@@dennisclark9544 Oh no you misunderstood me. Yamaha builds great machines, super reliable. Honda just makes things “nicer” to look at, ya know? Maybe it’s just me…
@@paintup46 honda do make a great bike. But in our experience in the garage, the reputation of "its a honda" has turned out to be a bad thing. Because of their rep for running forever and being bulletproof, we get a lot of hondas that haven't had any maintenance done in years. Credit to honda, they do all still run fine, but for us the worst thing about a honda, has been the owners
@@paintup46 we just had a honda blackbird in a few weeks ago, the owner had done the oil change and not put enough in, it only had just over half what it should have. No surprise, the poor thing was knocking, I drained the oil, it was full of copper from the crank bearings being absolutely worn out from no oil - but, it still ran pretty well considering. You definitely can't knock honda reliability
I'd rather get a Ninja 650 for a more relaxed sportbike commuter, or if I had extra money the RS660. The more people review the R7 the more I realize they should've released the R9 first.
I was thinking this would be more relaxed. After test driving one today at a Yamaha Demo Day I can tell you that you are going to be laying down forward on it haha at least I am 5'11 and I was TUCKED!
I know what you mean. However I think because of reliability/ dealership availability I would still choose the R7 over the RS660. I would personally go for the ninja but it’s such a different bike, it doesn’t really compare.
@@TheRausing1 That's the problem though, it will be compared, and every reviewer is saying the same thing. The R7 is a fun bike but it's not good enough to replace the R6 so instead it's more of a sporty fun commuter but then it has the aggressive ergos which makes it not so fun for long trips. R9 would've been the better replacement especially since there is the SP version for the MT09 that can go to the R9. R7 should've been the successor to the FZ6R which was Yamaha's equivalent to the Ninja 650 before they discontinued it 5 years ago.
@@TheRausing1 it does compare to the N650 though, it's what it's logically slotted against. This is to the MT07 what the N650 is to the Z650. The R7 is vastly more expensive, less comfortable, and probably not much if any quicker than the ninja. It's too expensive for the power it offers. There are quiet a few more powerful and compelling bikes at or near it's price.
In my country, a 600CC supersport is not just a vanity package. It is actually CHEAPER in the long run. Insurance here don't examine power output. They look at 1. Displacement Size, 2. Type of bike (e.g. Sport, naked). The R7 is going to demand a higher premium than the R6.
That's how it is in the US with my insurance company. My 600cc bandit costs half as much to insure as my 40 year old suzuki GS850 because the 850cc motor puts it into a different bike category, even though the bandit makes slightly more HP.
Hearing about the ergo's, I'd buy a used R6 over this if I was going to subject myself to the rigors of riding a dedicated sport bike on the road again.
The dude at the Demo Day today told me it's technically less aggressive ergos than the R6 (the fact that he said "technically" made me lol because I was laying down head-first the entire test ride and I am 5'11)
And that right there is the problem with this bike. Too little motor, or too little daily comfort. It needed to be a GSXR750 if Yamaha wants it to stay relevant
I love watching your videos. Both for the pre-learning experience of each bike and the geographical scenery. I grew up on the streets you ride in and I love reminiscing with your videos.
The last question was spot on and my answer would be the same - Does it make sense: No. I tried it in my dealership but I dont get it. If I want commute on "wanna be" sportbike I take ninja 650 and if I want more from it I buy RS660. Why would I buy bike which is so much lean forward and has cp2 680cc. I dont get this bike and its missed chance from yamaha for me. Nice thinking from yamaha - "lets make low horse power bike with power downlow for cummuting and sometimes trackday but make it that way noone can sit on it more than 40mins"
You buy this bike for a good, affordable, beginner/entry level track bike. No complicated electronics and capable of competing in the twin cup. Personally I'm waiting for the R9 but this is a great bike.
It is much better spec then the very heavy ninja. It also has much better suspension and sounds better. It is a bit cheaper then the RS660 with a very proven engine in terms of reliability. The engine is also much better for in town (power hits super low) compared to the RS (although the rider triangle is much worse). I think it slots in nicely and I personally would take it over any 600 supersport. Unfortunately I ride a literbike and they are basically the best of both worlds. Great low end power and high end power.
@@deathwish8339 I dont say you are not right but you cannot ride this as commuter...and ninja is maybe heavier but I would choose ninja over this everyday if I ride just to work. Look again at that 180 turn...it was almost 3 parking spaces. And if I want something for track I am already spending a lot money on bikes/track/gear and I would rather take RS660 which has more power. And RS660 has power downlow too...not the same but enough. And you can take it for trip no problem with cruise control and more relaxed ergo.
Hit the canyons and it will make sense. I own an SV650N and the power and performance is a great balance for spirited riding on twisty roads. You get the torque to blast out of corners without having so much power you have to tip toe around the throttle to avoid breaking the rear loose. Also the ~70 hp means you aren't hitting 130mph between turns. Another thing, these bikes are flickable and easy to handle. Even though they aren't much lighter than a 600 supersport, they have narrower tires. The R7 is meant to be an affordable sport bike for the street. Yeah you could buy an rs660 but it's $2500 more. If you don't need all the technowizardry (which to be honest, you don't on bikes like these) the R7 is the bike to get.
A bike for someone that wants the sportbike look and all of the cons with it, but for some reason does not want the performance. I personally don't get it, but to each their own.
Exactly my thoughts but anytime I say something similar people in comments keep saying how this is going to be a “perfect bike” for so many people. Idk, just seems like an odd bike to me.
If everyone thought that way motorcycles would have been dead decades ago. There has always been sporty looking bikes with lower hp. Everyone doesn't need the "performance" especially someone oh just got into riding.
If I could have only one bike it would be a inline 4 sports bike , you can commute, tour , carve through corners/Track days. The engine is so flexible, take it easy keep it under 6k rpm and generally come with better brakes, suspension and wind protection plus front end feel when pushing on. Enjoy your videos.
Thanks for showing different riding scenarios. Been trying to found out as much as i can about this bike, and these types of ride along help greatly in determining if its the right kind of bike for me
Low clipons are great because if you want more comfortable position you just change them for higher clipons with no mods. Other way round and you have to cut fairings and deal with other problems. R3 to be a good sport bike need a lot investment (front and rear suspension, brakes, clipons, rear sets). On other side you can buy R7, change rear shock and have much better performance and fun in similare price. Questions I have in mind is: -Stock rear shock is so bad as MT07 -Do you hit your hand on faring or tank in full lock -Gearing is different then in MT07?
Why is everyone beating around the fact that this is the R6 replacement and does everything worse. Yamaha said the market didn't support a mid-class sport bike, then release this a year later. We're all here pretending this is an MT-07 variant. R series branding. Aggressive sport bike ergonomics Makes half the power of the outgoing model.
probably because the r7 is cheaper and R6 sales have been pretty slow. the Lower price tag will attract alot of people, especially ones who know nothing about sport bikes besides the looks 🤭 Most people on sport bikes will never go to a track or do much of anything, they just love the look 👀
I fucking hate the hate this bike receives. Its perfect for its intended use. I got down from the R1 into the R7 and yes of course the R1 is a rocket ship. But some day you’ll grow up and mature, realizing that speed will only get you killed. In line 4s: for racing. Twins: for daily riding and commuting (and adv bines) For me, a sport bike (my favorite type of motorcycle) with a relaxed engine is fire!! Love it everyday day
@@250ignacio An inline-4 is the superior engine for a motorcycle. It's benefits are not exclusive to racing. We're being forced to buy twin engines because of emission standards. Not because we want them.
It's like all the bad points rolled into one platform. Uncomfortable aggressive ergonomics rolled into an around town powertrain. At least it looks good!
As a CBR 650R daily rider it does everything incredibly well - short of tours and distances you would be looking at a sports tourer/adventure anyways. 45mpg only city, 55mpg B-roads two up. Filters through traffic like nothing, puts a smile on your face every time. Ergos I'd consider good/comfortable for what is still a sports bike, pillion will complain an hour in. I'm 5'10 for comparison
youre not supposed to have weight on your wrists anyways, thats on your technique and not the bikes fault. thats like saying "man this shifter is hard to reach" meanwhile your toes are on the footpeg. no shit its hard to reach, youre not riding it right.
the thing that most or some people aren't getting is that it is designed for racing on the tracks, but can also be used for daily commute. I have a 2017 FZ07 for my daily and a 2006 YZF R1 for tracks, so I use them for what I intend to. I am getting that R7 thoughbecause it is much lighter than the R1 (obviously)
I have no need for a sport bike being 51 yr old. My Duke 790 is amazing. My Honda ST1300 is plenty comfortable. My Harley has the sound and look. BUT! When I seen the R7 60th anniversary and with Mt07 motor I was like I have to have one. To me it's absolutely stunning. So mine is on order. CANT WAIT!! Just in time for my trip to the smokey mountains.
I commend Yamaha for offering a sport-ish bike with a tractable twin. Not everyone needs a high-strung, 14,000 rpm four-pot for daily use. It sure would be neat to see Zack ride and review a genuine OW-02 R7.
Except it has all of the ergonomic drawbacks of a sport bike without the big power reward. The Ninja 650 is a way better choice if going the p-twin route.
Been riding an R6 for the last decade. This seems like such a travesty. The only thing I don’t like about the R6 is the uncomfortable riding position for longer duration rides. So, this keeps that and it’s 1/6th bigger with the engine and produces half the power. I wish they had created a sport focused line and called this the S7 or something. I would have virtually no complaints about it because it wouldn’t be a dumbed down R bike that cannot keep up with smaller displacement supersport machines.
This is just how bikes are now, they're never gonna go back to the way they was. But there's always gonna be used 600s to buy, it's just a shame that the younger people buying stuff like an R7 have no interest in riding a proper supersport
Excellent review. I enjoyed the Q&A. I tried this bike and I changed my mind 1 mile later. This is not a commuting bike. It’s a weekend-at-the-canyons bike. It is terribly uncomfortable. Very pretty but uncomfortable. I’m getting the MT07.
I test road it too this weekend and found it was extremely aggressive ride. I was all the way leaned over and it got tiresome to ride rather quickly. I don’t get the point of it, it’s a dedicated track bike with its ergos with an engine for the streets.
@@xreed8 idk man. Guess it ain’t for everyone, I have no complaints.. even on rides where it’s 300 plus miles straight. I been good. Hope you find something that fits you tho bro
This bike really should have had ergos more akin to the RS660 or R3. It should be a street focused sport bike, instead the full attack ergos do it a disservice.
This was one of the most honest takes on the R7 I've seen. As an MT07 owner, this bike makes no sense to me but I have seen new owners of the R7 who love them. So yeah, we know the R7 was created to fill the gap the R6 left behind and also to kinda compete with Aprilia's RS660 (Yamaha now has the cheaper and simpler sporty twin). If I was in the used market for a good midsize 600cc sportbike then R7 stands no chance, there are so many good options for low mileage R6, ZX6R, CBR600RR or Gixxer 600. I love my MT07 and I do want a sporty bike one day but it will never be the R7, I would want something less compromised and more committed to racing.
They really should have gone Ninja 650 with this, they'd crushed this niche. But they went only the half way, they took away R6 power and didn't give it the comfort. I bought Ninja 650 just before news about R7 came out, and I was regretting it back then. But after riding the Ninja and watching this video, I don't, Ninja It's so comfortable, I can ride it from dawn till dusk and even longer.
I do wonder how this bike does on the market. I'd personally rather go for a CBR650R or an RS660 (if I had more money) because I'm more about daily and weekend rides then doing 2+ track days a year. On a sidenote, looking at the board I think you undervalued your KTM a bit.
This bike is for a MotoGP lover, a 22 year old guy who lives in Europe and has just got his full licence. You’ll feel like Rossi, you can learn to wheelie, get your knee down. Insurance won’t bankrupt you and is capable of comfortably going on motorways and blazing around. All while not trying to kill you. And can turn into a nice little beast with a full exhaust system and tune one day. This bike will make Yamaha so much money.
"Extremely aggressive" aren't the words I like to hear when describing the ergonomics on a Daily Rider. If I want to be twisted up in knots by the time I get to work in the morning, I'll start dating a plus-sized S&M nymphomaniac. This bike seems to do all the wrong things well, and all the right things poorly, as opposed to the MT-07. It seems to be an answer to a question nobody asked. Apparently Zack never gives a bad review.
To the comment about, if the R7 makes sense. I said similar a while back. Had another commenter mention a great point. The R7 opens up another level for progression. Yamaha might bring out an R9. So you will have four small steps of progression. Instead of the three large steps that we had before. Maybe aimed at the other countries that have the multiple levels of license.
I have to confess Yamaha let me down with the R7, especially when I remember my beloved XJ6 F (or FZ6 R, or Diversion 600). I mean, it looks ridiculously good being so aggressive and sporty, but it's has a not-so-sporty powertrain. I'd certainly go for the MT-07 for a commuter or an R6 for a racer, but I'd still miss a middleweight sport-touring bike like my old XJ6 F. And I think that should be the benchmark: it's delicious around town, it's delicious in the twisties, looks awesome and, for that little extra, has a delicious straight-4 that's happy to sing at 11.000rpm. Thanks for another excellent video, Zack!
@@northofknowhere130 That's what the R7 is all about, but the riding position is way too aggressive. The powerplant is similar to the Ninja 650 and the CBR 650, but the riding position calls for, say, a 750cc straight-4 with about 150bhp. That's where I think Yamaha messed up.
@@andreasbeaufort3594 I completely agree about the ergonomics. They could've easily altered the windscreen/upper fairing and put on the R3 clip-ons, changing the bike completely.
I am sure this is constantly suggested but I would love to see Zach borrow more weird bikes for this series. It is cool to see new bikes reviewed in this way but seeing him break down seat height and wheelbase on a shovelhead chopper with 11 foot forks would be brilliant too.
Thanks for the great review, Zack! I don't understand the measures but it's fine for me, the context matters! Drag race at the end of the video was cool! haha I would like to ask about the headlamps of the motorcycles, because it's a good point to check and compare with other bikes!
Zach and team - laid up after foot surgery for the next 3wks and just wanted to say, really appreciate these Saturday morn vids for daily rides. I can’t get out, but swear I can feel the air pressure in my helmet. Cheers 👍 🏍
I got to ride the R7 at Sonoma last month, and I rode an RS660 at Buttonwillow earlier this year. The agree 100% the bike doesn’t quite make sense. The only way I’d consider this over the Aprilia is reliability. For a street bike the Aprilia is just more desirable. For a track bike I think they’re both too expensive :P
Its sad to see how motorcycle quality and substance is going down instead of up, seems like the whole focus of manufacturers is to cut costs, and I think that is killing motorcycling for me, so I dont see how that could be a strategy for a come back... Maybe nobody else cares but me..
That's why I started looking at kawasaki..best prices by far for what you get..honda is pricing some of their models way too high and Yamaha cant let go of their race wins and price their stuff high thinking everyone will remember those trophies they won
I’ve been waiting on a tiger 900 or tiger 1200 review. Would be nice to have the 900 review and then the 2022 1200 when it’s available. But I do love the reviews so keep on riding!
My choice would be owning the R3 over this R7. I love the R7 looks but I'm not living with that riding position. It's great for the track - not real-world multi-purpose riding.
@@salskars6637 if that's the case then they'd be cannibalizing their tracer 7 sales. I think the perfect bike for what you describe (although you'd probably agree that it doesn't look quite as good as the r7) is the tracer 7, so hopefully they sell them where you live and they'll bring them to the US soon.
@@sparkythewildcat97 - I don't even think, Tracer 7 riders want a sport-bike styled bike. I see your point but you're correct in that - there's no comparison in design/aesthetics. Tracer 7s are horse-riding positions. Great bikes btw. I'd like to see a Yamaha version of the R7 similar to a Honda F4i 3/4 riding position. I'm currently riding my version of a close to perfect bike: 2014 Honda Interceptor 800. 3/4 position.
Nah because the R3s are getting thrown away because people get bored. I owned an R3 and R6 and I loved my R3 until the day I wrecked it. Was my favorite bike. But now that I have an R7 I love it even more and was very much worth the purchase.
To all of you comparing it to an R6 or other 599cc inline 4s, STOP! This bike like what the SV650S is to the standard SV650. A fun economic bike that's sporty.
Ironically this video just sold me on a MT09. I wanted an MT07 with a fairing and better suspension, this is just a R6 with no top end. I guess I will look at the RS 660 too since you said it was more comfortable which to me is important for a bike that will live 100% of its life in the street.
Best all around sportbike is the CBR650R.. Strangely I put the gsxr750 in 2nd place bc although it's a crotch rocket it's actually pretty comfy (I'm still shocked after 3yrs) ..I've done several 225 mile trips with ease.. this bike is great for someone coming from a 300/400cc , I can live with 74hp but aggressive ergos and a 32.9 seat height? I'll pass..
GSXR’s in general are street friendly for being super-sports. The pegs being adjustable makes a big difference. The ZX6R is also more comfortable. Both the GSXR 600/750 and the ZX6R actually have more laid back ergonomics compared to the R7. Lower seat heights, same clip on heights, plus the rear sets are a hair lower on the ZX6R and the GSXR. If I was going to buy a super sport, it would be a ZX6R or a GSXR for those facts alone
I think Yamaha keeps cutting cost on their new bikes to the point of them being undesirable against the competition. This bike has some nice features but it isn't exactly cheap, either. Not for the class. I wouldn't be interested at all in this bike.
God this is old and no one will read this, but I have to point out that one can fundamentally disagree with what Zach said around the 17:00 mark. Motorcycles are intrinsically emotional purchases, and I think there's too much logic being used to justify certain purchases in this segment of sport bikes. There's never a reason to ride or drive something that does a 10sec quarter mile on a daily basis, or has legit chops at the track. It's just because it's fun. I think we're starting to lose a lot of that. If someone's into riding a screaming 600cc four pot every day, despite the obvious discomfort and impractically of it, God bless em. It certainly could mean there's vanity to the pursuit, but damnit if it isn't just because it's fun. Great video as always.
Why can't a sport bike that has an upright seating position and gets 50 mpg while costing a fraction the price of a modern car be a logical and emotional purchase?
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I’m looking forward to a revzilla track day with this bike. Really want to know top speed and is it worth have as a track day only bike vs a used super sport.
That maybe what I want but what I need is your reaction "Zack" 150cc Sportsbike dominating Indian market within competitors
Any plans to review a gsxs1000gt in the near future?
Dude Mungus 🇺🇸🥺👍
It’s a good bike for those interested in track days, but will do daily stuff 90% of the time.
They don’t have to buy an MT-07 and do all kinds of aftermarket stuff to make it track prepped.
In that way it does “make sense.”
Why not just get an mt07 and a used actual track bike tho?
@@jameswylie6671 some want a new bike for the track. And in the middle weight class the SV650 are kings. The R7 is basically a SV650 that is track ready
@@wolfgangrembeck Idk I still don't get it. A new bike for the track sounds like you'll just be too scared of scratching it to really push it to its limits
New mt07 for the road, old sv650 you dont have to worry about lowsiding on track just makes far more sense to me
@@jameswylie6671 i totally agree with you. I would even buy the gladius since it's the same bike, just cheaper, and put full fairings on it. But i know some people who can only ride new bikes, even on the track
One should ALWAYS watch the vids til the end. ZACH CORTS for the win. You cold SMOKED that breakout!
Now we don't have to, you gave us the ending.
Oops...
Looked like Harley to the line first, but it was close so maybe the perspective fooled me
That thud you just heard was Yammie Newb hitting the floor as a Royal Enfield bested an R7 at anything.
People still watch that clown after he smacked into a Porsche doing his Rossi impression? I thought he was irrelevant like 4 years ago.
@@Jay-yg8jj God he was an idiot back then. I also stopped watching for a couple years around that time. He's gotten older and less noobish, also has hired some new castmembers/staff that help make it fun. Became a track boi and doesn't street Rossi as badly. Probably the some of the funniest motorcycle content on the interwebs honestly. (If not exactly as enlightened as what you get from, say, a Zach Courts or a Michael Neeves.)
I've never seen a thing from that guy just because of the comments 🤣
Yammie "tool"...
1 minute of real footage and 10 minutes of stock google images and videos glued together..Guys a joke.
Now we just need you and Ari to take alllll the bikes from Daily Rider and make a Track Rider version of the show. ;)
Daily racer?
The outro is hilarious! "He doesn't even know we're racing but I won!" 😂 Zack would be a cool riding buddy! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
every rider does that at some point at the traffic light, whahaha
Just bought an R7, and I love how it's fun and sporty. It feels like a super sport with the clip-ons, but doesn't have insane power which I like. I don't have the opportunity to really use a bike with 100+ horsepower often, and I love the low end torque on this. I also just use it as a good weather commuter and a weekend bike.
I feel like this is similar to what Nissan did to the S13-S14 240SX in the US. They took a pretty capable chassis and stuck a low revving/low hp engine in it (KA24) while the rest of the world got a higher performance/higher revving engine (SR20) that suits the purpose of the car much more. Just like the 240SX became really popular once they became old enough that people start swapping engines, this bike might be popular in 10 years when there are big bore kits, higher revving cams, and if they cracked the ECU increasing the redline.
There's already turbo kits for this engine. It will be incredibly popular to build once people get off the R6's dick.
I would have like to see the rider triangle split the difference between a R3 and R6. That is now what I would like to see with an R9. Pegs need to be high enough for track use, but the bars should be high enough for reasonably comfortable street use.
I’m so glad Yamaha released this bike. I bought my first bike (ninja 300) about 5yrs ago and I love it but at the track you need more ground clearance and the suspension is definitely built to price point. A little more power wouldn’t hurt either and the R7 solves those issues so I feel like it was built for a buyer like me in mind
you should have gone with something more powerful. trust me you can handle it. right now you are just sacraficing all the comfort for non of the performance
Depends on the usage a lot of People like me whod like to daily it dont need that much power. Also the r7 has really good low end speed and you dont even need the top speed daily
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I don't understand why Yamaha made the R7, a MT-07 in a track bike package to ride uncomfortably on the street. You're better off just getting a MT-07. I wish Yamaha would redesign the MT-10 already.
Mt07 is ridiculously ugly. R7 will be the next big stuntbike. Extremely reliable, motor has tons of torque, only downside on the MT07 was the garbage fork and tank that was hard to modify (it was plastic tank with shroud). MT07 is the fastest growing stunt bike and this is better in every category. Just need others to wreck them so we can buy them for cheap lol
You underestimate the vanity of a large part of motorcyclists who care too much about image.
Yamaha needed a R bike to fill the gap between the R3 and R6.
Zack this is such a awsome series. Would enjoy seeing a close up of the tally board as a final view once you end your daily rider review. Thanks for all your efforts. Damn I'd sure like to ride all those bikes!
Yea id rather save the cash and get the mt if i want a true sportbike o want the engine to back the looks
As someone who owns an R7 as has put 5k miles in 2 months, here is my take. I am 5’6 215 lbs. I ride it as my daily and I do about 100-200 miles a day for work. When I first got the bike I rode it immediately to Laguna Seca for MotoAmerica from Los Angeles. Came back with about 900miles. I stopped every 100 miles for gas although I could’ve went more. My wrists were killing me on long rides and my left knee is bad and was hurting as well. However, that is on stock setup. Ergonomics is very important. I setup up my suspension the best I can thanks to Dave Moss, and I adjusted the bars and pushed them out a little as to get the weight off my wrists. MUCH better ride now. I can do a 100mile ride and have no pain now. Note that my ass or back have never hurt on a ride. Honestly i believe it is the best sport bike for the street u can get. Has the power u need, fully adjustable suspension which can costs tons of money, blinkers come with emergency lights, slipper clutch, good front brakes and brembo master cylinder. For the value it is pretty damn good. Sure it’s not the most comfortable due to the aggressiveness but if u were gonna get an R6 or other aggressive bike this would be a better option. Looks bitchin, feels nimble and light as hell in the turns and is fun as fuck in canyons. Has the torque to have fun with wheelies. The seat is very large and very comfortable. I also rode to the desert and on my way back I was able to get 160miles non stop to my home on one tank. That’s probably the closest Ill get to Yamahas mpg lol. An amazing bike that people are bashing before they even ride it. Take it from someone who has put in the miles on this bike. It’s worth it and it does make sense.
I hope Yamaha brings out the R9 in the future with that same aggressive ergonomics package so it can be a Japanese reincarnation of the Daytona. Because the world needs another Daytona!
I’m cool with that. The R7 doesn’t make sense to me, but that works.
@@sterlingroberts6240the r7 is there because making euro 5 r6 is more costly and prob will end up like cbr 600 where they make it euro 4 and then change the ruling into euro5 making the bike a loss machine lol
The Daytona 660 is here now
@@sabbathperalta4119 The Daytona 660 is a fine middleweight sports tourer, but when compared to its latest predecessor its a terrible track alternative. Less aggressive ergonomics, non adjustable suspension, notably less power, and all around more budget components.
If a person wants a sport touring style bike, its great, but its not a supersport.
I don’t understand why they discontinued the r6 as a road bike. I heard it was because it didn’t meet Euro5, but the race version now DOES meet Euro5 meaning the engine is allowed for road use.
My guess would be because it’s probably a lot cheaper for them because they can use the engine, wheels etc. from the MT07, XSR700 and don’t have to design/produce as much specifically for the R7. It’s what most car and also bike manufacturers do nowadays to cut cost
It would be great if you guys could include metric conversions. I understand that this would be tricky for the host, maybe just as an on-screen text when he mentions something?
I agree with you! Even if its numbers on the screen! Thanks for sharing your point!
They are included in the description
It's a good idea. Doug DeMuro does it and it's really helpful.
It’s not too hard really. 100kmh is 62mph, 400lbs is 181kg, 200hp is 147kw
It's pretty amazing how well the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 is holding up against other more high-end bikes. It seems to be the sweet spot in so many ways: price, performance, comfort, and ease of maintenance.
Interceptor 650 looks ugly
Yea but it just looks ugly as shit...same reason why I dont want to get SV650, one of the best (if not the best) motorcycles in naked category with 650cc, but it just looks old and ugly as shit.
Royal enfield makes rubbish motorcycles
@@rayhan4502 The Continental GT looks amazing though - basically the same bike with more aggressive ergonomics and much better styling.
Where did Royal Enfield fit into this vid
I gave a thumbs up for the drag race at the end
Just FYI if you point a finger at someone there are at least 3 fingers pointing back at you.
When the other guy doesn’t even know you’re racing lol. Kinda like me in my E550 so much power.
That ending will have me smiling the rest of the day! HAHA
Did he say Wobbly-Davidson, LOL
My heart says “YES” my hips, my ass, my shoulders and wrists say wake up old man 👴🏻 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mt10 is an extremely comfortable compromise for my size anyway
I'm right with ya!
What a craftsman is Zack , master of evaluating, demonstrating, articulating and entertaining riders like me! Thank you, RevZilla!
These bikes look amazing in the 60th anniversary paint scheme.
Just searched it up..Wow didnt even hear about this. Beautiful!
Holy crap. That's a good lookin bike right there.
I have a MT-07 and love the CP2 engine but Yamaha should have bumped up the power on the R7. I'm sure they were trying to save money and keep this priced as competitively as they can though. This bike paired with a Hordpower intake, exhaust, and tune would probably be pretty fun if the setup on my bike is anything to go by.
Isn't it about time to get the KTM 890 Adventure R on this here program?
I have a fz6r and the cross plane 4 cylinder makes beautiful noises like an f1 race car. R7 not so much.
"Are we drag racing.. I won hahaha" Awesome, just awesome! Thanks for the laughs
I know it’s 2 grand more but I would pony up and get the RS660
You get a much more polished and powerful motorcycle definitely Worth the extra cash if you're buying a new bike anyways
Only caveat would be, not if it's your first bike. Rs660 is too nice to drop and parts are pricey and scarce.
@@chillpengeru that's true. But in reality you're first bike should never be a dealer bike in the first place 🤷
Aprilia’s dealer network in the u.s is terrible, and reliability is spotty.. yet I would still not buy the R7.
@@HKvsGlock I’m with ya man, I wouldn’t buy one either. Just get the better daily rider in the MT 07 and save 1400 dollars.
The drag race at the end of the video was absolutely hilarious 🤣 , another enjoyable daily rider onto the next adventure
Seems like the cbr650r is a better choice. More relaxed ergos, 4 cylinder for highway, better build quality. This engine is just perfect for a naked, city bike.
Theres nothing wrong with yamaha build quality .... ive never even heard anybody say there is, where did you get that from? I've worked on plenty of yamahas in my garage, and never seen a single issue with their quality.
@@dennisclark9544 Oh no you misunderstood me. Yamaha builds great machines, super reliable. Honda just makes things “nicer” to look at, ya know? Maybe it’s just me…
@@paintup46 honda do make a great bike. But in our experience in the garage, the reputation of "its a honda" has turned out to be a bad thing. Because of their rep for running forever and being bulletproof, we get a lot of hondas that haven't had any maintenance done in years. Credit to honda, they do all still run fine, but for us the worst thing about a honda, has been the owners
@@dennisclark9544 Makes sense.
@@paintup46 we just had a honda blackbird in a few weeks ago, the owner had done the oil change and not put enough in, it only had just over half what it should have. No surprise, the poor thing was knocking, I drained the oil, it was full of copper from the crank bearings being absolutely worn out from no oil - but, it still ran pretty well considering. You definitely can't knock honda reliability
I'd rather get a Ninja 650 for a more relaxed sportbike commuter, or if I had extra money the RS660. The more people review the R7 the more I realize they should've released the R9 first.
I was thinking this would be more relaxed. After test driving one today at a Yamaha Demo Day I can tell you that you are going to be laying down forward on it haha at least I am 5'11 and I was TUCKED!
I know what you mean. However I think because of reliability/ dealership availability I would still choose the R7 over the RS660. I would personally go for the ninja but it’s such a different bike, it doesn’t really compare.
@@TheRausing1 That's the problem though, it will be compared, and every reviewer is saying the same thing. The R7 is a fun bike but it's not good enough to replace the R6 so instead it's more of a sporty fun commuter but then it has the aggressive ergos which makes it not so fun for long trips. R9 would've been the better replacement especially since there is the SP version for the MT09 that can go to the R9. R7 should've been the successor to the FZ6R which was Yamaha's equivalent to the Ninja 650 before they discontinued it 5 years ago.
@@TheRausing1 it does compare to the N650 though, it's what it's logically slotted against. This is to the MT07 what the N650 is to the Z650. The R7 is vastly more expensive, less comfortable, and probably not much if any quicker than the ninja. It's too expensive for the power it offers. There are quiet a few more powerful and compelling bikes at or near it's price.
In my country, a 600CC supersport is not just a vanity package. It is actually CHEAPER in the long run. Insurance here don't examine power output. They look at 1. Displacement Size, 2. Type of bike (e.g. Sport, naked). The R7 is going to demand a higher premium than the R6.
That's how it is in the US with my insurance company. My 600cc bandit costs half as much to insure as my 40 year old suzuki GS850 because the 850cc motor puts it into a different bike category, even though the bandit makes slightly more HP.
Hearing about the ergo's, I'd buy a used R6 over this if I was going to subject myself to the rigors of riding a dedicated sport bike on the road again.
The dude at the Demo Day today told me it's technically less aggressive ergos than the R6 (the fact that he said "technically" made me lol because I was laying down head-first the entire test ride and I am 5'11)
And that right there is the problem with this bike. Too little motor, or too little daily comfort. It needed to be a GSXR750 if Yamaha wants it to stay relevant
@@MoswenMedia They should have used the MT09 engine..
@@beingsolo80 I can agree with that.
I'll just keep my 636
I love watching your videos. Both for the pre-learning experience of each bike and the geographical scenery. I grew up on the streets you ride in and I love reminiscing with your videos.
As boring as a 600cc I-4 is on the street, the pure drug of taking it to 14K rpms is not vanity. It is real and unavailable in a parallel twin.
Drugs are vanity
The last question was spot on and my answer would be the same - Does it make sense: No. I tried it in my dealership but I dont get it. If I want commute on "wanna be" sportbike I take ninja 650 and if I want more from it I buy RS660.
Why would I buy bike which is so much lean forward and has cp2 680cc. I dont get this bike and its missed chance from yamaha for me. Nice thinking from yamaha - "lets make low horse power bike with power downlow for cummuting and sometimes trackday but make it that way noone can sit on it more than 40mins"
You buy this bike for a good, affordable, beginner/entry level track bike.
No complicated electronics and capable of competing in the twin cup.
Personally I'm waiting for the R9 but this is a great bike.
@@IDontKnow-bb6mt Maybe but tbh thats small % of riders...I expected something cool for everyday riding when its based on mt07 engine.
It is much better spec then the very heavy ninja. It also has much better suspension and sounds better.
It is a bit cheaper then the RS660 with a very proven engine in terms of reliability. The engine is also much better for in town (power hits super low) compared to the RS (although the rider triangle is much worse).
I think it slots in nicely and I personally would take it over any 600 supersport. Unfortunately I ride a literbike and they are basically the best of both worlds. Great low end power and high end power.
@@deathwish8339 I dont say you are not right but you cannot ride this as commuter...and ninja is maybe heavier but I would choose ninja over this everyday if I ride just to work. Look again at that 180 turn...it was almost 3 parking spaces.
And if I want something for track I am already spending a lot money on bikes/track/gear and I would rather take RS660 which has more power. And RS660 has power downlow too...not the same but enough. And you can take it for trip no problem with cruise control and more relaxed ergo.
Hit the canyons and it will make sense. I own an SV650N and the power and performance is a great balance for spirited riding on twisty roads. You get the torque to blast out of corners without having so much power you have to tip toe around the throttle to avoid breaking the rear loose. Also the ~70 hp means you aren't hitting 130mph between turns. Another thing, these bikes are flickable and easy to handle. Even though they aren't much lighter than a 600 supersport, they have narrower tires. The R7 is meant to be an affordable sport bike for the street. Yeah you could buy an rs660 but it's $2500 more. If you don't need all the technowizardry (which to be honest, you don't on bikes like these) the R7 is the bike to get.
Zack is always sooo polite. I think he really hated riding this motorcycle.
A bike for someone that wants the sportbike look and all of the cons with it, but for some reason does not want the performance. I personally don't get it, but to each their own.
Agree, shouldn't exist in the way it does...
Exactly my thoughts but anytime I say something similar people in comments keep saying how this is going to be a “perfect bike” for so many people. Idk, just seems like an odd bike to me.
@Вероника Заглотова From my understanding, its the MT07 engine in an R6 chasis.
If everyone thought that way motorcycles would have been dead decades ago.
There has always been sporty looking bikes with lower hp. Everyone doesn't need the "performance" especially someone oh just got into riding.
@@UvidCo Yes, but that was decades ago when there was a lot less selection. Now you can have the best of both worlds.
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If I could have only one bike it would be a inline 4 sports bike , you can commute, tour , carve through corners/Track days. The engine is so flexible, take it easy keep it under 6k rpm and generally come with better brakes, suspension and wind protection plus front end feel when pushing on. Enjoy your videos.
Thanks for showing different riding scenarios. Been trying to found out as much as i can about this bike, and these types of ride along help greatly in determining if its the right kind of bike for me
Low clipons are great because if you want more comfortable position you just change them for higher clipons with no mods. Other way round and you have to cut fairings and deal with other problems. R3 to be a good sport bike need a lot investment (front and rear suspension, brakes, clipons, rear sets). On other side you can buy R7, change rear shock and have much better performance and fun in similare price.
Questions I have in mind is:
-Stock rear shock is so bad as MT07
-Do you hit your hand on faring or tank in full lock
-Gearing is different then in MT07?
Why is everyone beating around the fact that this is the R6 replacement and does everything worse. Yamaha said the market didn't support a mid-class sport bike, then release this a year later. We're all here pretending this is an MT-07 variant.
R series branding.
Aggressive sport bike ergonomics
Makes half the power of the outgoing model.
probably because the r7 is cheaper and R6 sales have been pretty slow. the Lower price tag will attract alot of people, especially ones who know nothing about sport bikes besides the looks 🤭 Most people on sport bikes will never go to a track or do much of anything, they just love the look 👀
@@DefZen343 But those people will also hate the aggressive ergos that really have no place outside of homologation for track use.
@@nunyabusiness896 they will hate it and wont admit it, i know 3 people like that, guess it will make their back muscles stronger atleast 😹
I fucking hate the hate this bike receives. Its perfect for its intended use. I got down from the R1 into the R7 and yes of course the R1 is a rocket ship. But some day you’ll grow up and mature, realizing that speed will only get you killed.
In line 4s: for racing.
Twins: for daily riding and commuting (and adv bines)
For me, a sport bike (my favorite type of motorcycle) with a relaxed engine is fire!! Love it everyday day
@@250ignacio
An inline-4 is the superior engine for a motorcycle. It's benefits are not exclusive to racing.
We're being forced to buy twin engines because of emission standards. Not because we want them.
It's like all the bad points rolled into one platform. Uncomfortable aggressive ergonomics rolled into an around town powertrain. At least it looks good!
Love your reviews, Zack. You are down to earth, and give your honest opinions.
That Wobbly Davidson ending cracked me up .
3:04 Side of a vehicle, side of a vehicle, SIDE OF A VEHICLE!
CBR650R when!?
I would love to see what you think to the hondas Cbr650r as a daily rider.
As a CBR 650R daily rider it does everything incredibly well - short of tours and distances you would be looking at a sports tourer/adventure anyways.
45mpg only city, 55mpg B-roads two up. Filters through traffic like nothing, puts a smile on your face every time. Ergos I'd consider good/comfortable for what is still a sports bike, pillion will complain an hour in. I'm 5'10 for comparison
Great review as always.. "Doesn't make sense" I agree..and yes as an older rider, I'm not comfortable with putting weight on my wrists anymore!
I'm fairly young and I find the reward for the ergos is mediocre power and for 9000 there's better bikes
youre not supposed to have weight on your wrists anyways, thats on your technique and not the bikes fault. thats like saying "man this shifter is hard to reach" meanwhile your toes are on the footpeg. no shit its hard to reach, youre not riding it right.
the thing that most or some people aren't getting is that it is designed for racing on the tracks, but can also be used for daily commute. I have a 2017 FZ07 for my daily and a 2006 YZF R1 for tracks, so I use them for what I intend to. I am getting that R7 thoughbecause it is much lighter than the R1 (obviously)
I have no need for a sport bike being 51 yr old. My Duke 790 is amazing. My Honda ST1300 is plenty comfortable. My Harley has the sound and look. BUT! When I seen the R7 60th anniversary and with Mt07 motor I was like I have to have one. To me it's absolutely stunning. So mine is on order. CANT WAIT!! Just in time for my trip to the smokey mountains.
I commend Yamaha for offering a sport-ish bike with a tractable twin. Not everyone needs a high-strung, 14,000 rpm four-pot for daily use.
It sure would be neat to see Zack ride and review a genuine OW-02 R7.
By God. High strung. Oof. That's sex time.
Except it has all of the ergonomic drawbacks of a sport bike without the big power reward. The Ninja 650 is a way better choice if going the p-twin route.
The biggest question I have is; what is that guy protesting out front of your office? haha
Probably corvette guy
I love this dude
Been riding an R6 for the last decade. This seems like such a travesty. The only thing I don’t like about the R6 is the uncomfortable riding position for longer duration rides.
So, this keeps that and it’s 1/6th bigger with the engine and produces half the power.
I wish they had created a sport focused line and called this the S7 or something. I would have virtually no complaints about it because it wouldn’t be a dumbed down R bike that cannot keep up with smaller displacement supersport machines.
This is just how bikes are now, they're never gonna go back to the way they was. But there's always gonna be used 600s to buy, it's just a shame that the younger people buying stuff like an R7 have no interest in riding a proper supersport
That ending lol
I always look forward to Daily Rider episodes. Always chock full of well presented info!!
I still demand the Moto Guzzi V85tt episode. ;)
Excellent review. I enjoyed the Q&A. I tried this bike and I changed my mind 1 mile later. This is not a commuting bike. It’s a weekend-at-the-canyons bike. It is terribly uncomfortable. Very pretty but uncomfortable. I’m getting the MT07.
I ride this bike daily, 6 ft 150 lbs. extremely comfortable for me and perfect for being in Jacksonville. Mix of regular roads and interstate. Love it
I test road it too this weekend and found it was extremely aggressive ride. I was all the way leaned over and it got tiresome to ride rather quickly. I don’t get the point of it, it’s a dedicated track bike with its ergos with an engine for the streets.
@@xreed8 idk man. Guess it ain’t for everyone, I have no complaints.. even on rides where it’s 300 plus miles straight. I been good. Hope you find something that fits you tho bro
@@seanreade7283 Loved the look of it though! It was a 2022 anniversary edition, was definitely turning heads during the Yamaha test ride
@@xreed8 that’s the one i have. Ain’t seen another in Jacksonville yet, hope I got only one 🤣🤣
This bike really should have had ergos more akin to the RS660 or R3. It should be a street focused sport bike, instead the full attack ergos do it a disservice.
Yeah it has sportbike ergo with an engine made for a hooligans commuting
This was one of the most honest takes on the R7 I've seen. As an MT07 owner, this bike makes no sense to me but I have seen new owners of the R7 who love them. So yeah, we know the R7 was created to fill the gap the R6 left behind and also to kinda compete with Aprilia's RS660 (Yamaha now has the cheaper and simpler sporty twin). If I was in the used market for a good midsize 600cc sportbike then R7 stands no chance, there are so many good options for low mileage R6, ZX6R, CBR600RR or Gixxer 600. I love my MT07 and I do want a sporty bike one day but it will never be the R7, I would want something less compromised and more committed to racing.
They really should have gone Ninja 650 with this, they'd crushed this niche. But they went only the half way, they took away R6 power and didn't give it the comfort. I bought Ninja 650 just before news about R7 came out, and I was regretting it back then. But after riding the Ninja and watching this video, I don't, Ninja It's so comfortable, I can ride it from dawn till dusk and even longer.
Big ups for the jump! Having said that would never consider buying this bike. RIP R6. IL4 all day!
You keep finding ways to convince me to go for the Aprilia
I do wonder how this bike does on the market.
I'd personally rather go for a CBR650R or an RS660 (if I had more money) because I'm more about daily and weekend rides then doing 2+ track days a year.
On a sidenote, looking at the board I think you undervalued your KTM a bit.
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This bike is for a MotoGP lover, a 22 year old guy who lives in Europe and has just got his full licence. You’ll feel like Rossi, you can learn to wheelie, get your knee down. Insurance won’t bankrupt you and is capable of comfortably going on motorways and blazing around. All while not trying to kill you. And can turn into a nice little beast with a full exhaust system and tune one day. This bike will make Yamaha so much money.
Love the intro. I think that's exactly how I'd welcome aliens to Earth.
*Let’s see how many people made it within a hour!*
57min made it by 3min.
"Extremely aggressive" aren't the words I like to hear when describing the ergonomics on a Daily Rider. If I want to be twisted up in knots by the time I get to work in the morning, I'll start dating a plus-sized S&M nymphomaniac. This bike seems to do all the wrong things well, and all the right things poorly, as opposed to the MT-07. It seems to be an answer to a question nobody asked. Apparently Zack never gives a bad review.
Waiting for the R9, this bike will have full sense, the R7 seems to me to be meaningless, outside a mountain road.
It’s very useful for twins cup racing
I think Yamaha was focusing on the Twins cup and making an affordable track bike.
Great review, awesome bike. I appreciate your input, it helped me realize I'm defintely going for the 636.
Love the little race at the end
this is the bike you're looking for to commute but with aggressive look
To the comment about, if the R7 makes sense. I said similar a while back. Had another commenter mention a great point. The R7 opens up another level for progression. Yamaha might bring out an R9. So you will have four small steps of progression. Instead of the three large steps that we had before. Maybe aimed at the other countries that have the multiple levels of license.
I’m 6’2 and was worried it would be a little small for me, glad to see you didn’t have a problem!
I have to confess Yamaha let me down with the R7, especially when I remember my beloved XJ6 F (or FZ6 R, or Diversion 600). I mean, it looks ridiculously good being so aggressive and sporty, but it's has a not-so-sporty powertrain. I'd certainly go for the MT-07 for a commuter or an R6 for a racer, but I'd still miss a middleweight sport-touring bike like my old XJ6 F. And I think that should be the benchmark: it's delicious around town, it's delicious in the twisties, looks awesome and, for that little extra, has a delicious straight-4 that's happy to sing at 11.000rpm. Thanks for another excellent video, Zack!
I honestly thought Yamaha was going to make a sport version of the MT07 to compete with the Ninja 650 and CBR 650R.
@@northofknowhere130 That's what the R7 is all about, but the riding position is way too aggressive. The powerplant is similar to the Ninja 650 and the CBR 650, but the riding position calls for, say, a 750cc straight-4 with about 150bhp. That's where I think Yamaha messed up.
@@andreasbeaufort3594 I completely agree about the ergonomics. They could've easily altered the windscreen/upper fairing and put on the R3 clip-ons, changing the bike completely.
I am sure this is constantly suggested but I would love to see Zach borrow more weird bikes for this series. It is cool to see new bikes reviewed in this way but seeing him break down seat height and wheelbase on a shovelhead chopper with 11 foot forks would be brilliant too.
Thanks for the great review, Zack! I don't understand the measures but it's fine for me, the context matters! Drag race at the end of the video was cool! haha I would like to ask about the headlamps of the motorcycles, because it's a good point to check and compare with other bikes!
On camera the dash is hard to see, dark and cables in the way.
As a T7 owner how can you NOT love the CP2 engine? Cool bike.
Should've been named S(port) 7 instead of R(acing) 7.
Port is left. Lol.
Can you guys do a daily rider on the CBR650R?
Zach and team - laid up after foot surgery for the next 3wks and just wanted to say, really appreciate these Saturday morn vids for daily rides. I can’t get out, but swear I can feel the air pressure in my helmet. Cheers 👍 🏍
The cockpit looks super messy and the dash looks super hard to read in bright light. The rest of the bike looks awesome though
"Cockpit" it's not a aircraft nor an enclosed vehicle. Lmao. What is it with you people saying that dumbass shit?
Watching you from France, great video✌️
Wow loved the ranked daily rider board at the end. Very informative thank you! Going to look at and sit on the r7 at the dealer tomorrow wish me luck.
I got to ride the R7 at Sonoma last month, and I rode an RS660 at Buttonwillow earlier this year. The agree 100% the bike doesn’t quite make sense. The only way I’d consider this over the Aprilia is reliability. For a street bike the Aprilia is just more desirable. For a track bike I think they’re both too expensive :P
I hope the R7 exists just to be an option to an R9. That would be insane.
Hey Zach, please do a daily rider on Honda cb650r abs
Its sad to see how motorcycle quality and substance is going down instead of up, seems like the whole focus of manufacturers is to cut costs, and I think that is killing motorcycling for me, so I dont see how that could be a strategy for a come back... Maybe nobody else cares but me..
That's why I started looking at kawasaki..best prices by far for what you get..honda is pricing some of their models way too high and Yamaha cant let go of their race wins and price their stuff high thinking everyone will remember those trophies they won
I’ve been waiting on a tiger 900 or tiger 1200 review. Would be nice to have the 900 review and then the 2022 1200 when it’s available. But I do love the reviews so keep on riding!
I agree, regarding ergos, if this R7 had similar ergos to the R3, it would sale better than the R3.
Nah man
My choice would be owning the R3 over this R7. I love the R7 looks but I'm not living with that riding position. It's great for the track - not real-world multi-purpose riding.
@@salskars6637 if that's the case then they'd be cannibalizing their tracer 7 sales. I think the perfect bike for what you describe (although you'd probably agree that it doesn't look quite as good as the r7) is the tracer 7, so hopefully they sell them where you live and they'll bring them to the US soon.
@@sparkythewildcat97 - I don't even think, Tracer 7 riders want a sport-bike styled bike. I see your point but you're correct in that - there's no comparison in design/aesthetics. Tracer 7s are horse-riding positions. Great bikes btw.
I'd like to see a Yamaha version of the R7 similar to a Honda F4i 3/4 riding position.
I'm currently riding my version of a close to perfect bike: 2014 Honda Interceptor 800. 3/4 position.
Nah because the R3s are getting thrown away because people get bored. I owned an R3 and R6 and I loved my R3 until the day I wrecked it. Was my favorite bike. But now that I have an R7 I love it even more and was very much worth the purchase.
To all of you comparing it to an R6 or other 599cc inline 4s, STOP! This bike like what the SV650S is to the standard SV650. A fun economic bike that's sporty.
Ironically this video just sold me on a MT09. I wanted an MT07 with a fairing and better suspension, this is just a R6 with no top end. I guess I will look at the RS 660 too since you said it was more comfortable which to me is important for a bike that will live 100% of its life in the street.
Yeah quick up is very nice. That said, blipping down quick as you approach a corner is Bellisimo🙌
R7 is better than an R6 for the 2021 marketplace and Yamaha’s gonna sell every single one of them they make
Cheah
yea sure lets convince ourselves that a 70 hp sports bike is better than one with 120.
Haha they will always have "the R6 is faster and handles better" in their heads.
@@Manny32V torque and area under the curve 🧠
@@yammienoob *ITS TORGGGZZ*
Best all around sportbike is the CBR650R.. Strangely I put the gsxr750 in 2nd place bc although it's a crotch rocket it's actually pretty comfy (I'm still shocked after 3yrs) ..I've done several 225 mile trips with ease.. this bike is great for someone coming from a 300/400cc , I can live with 74hp but aggressive ergos and a 32.9 seat height? I'll pass..
GSXR’s in general are street friendly for being super-sports. The pegs being adjustable makes a big difference. The ZX6R is also more comfortable. Both the GSXR 600/750 and the ZX6R actually have more laid back ergonomics compared to the R7. Lower seat heights, same clip on heights, plus the rear sets are a hair lower on the ZX6R and the GSXR. If I was going to buy a super sport, it would be a ZX6R or a GSXR for those facts alone
I think Yamaha keeps cutting cost on their new bikes to the point of them being undesirable against the competition. This bike has some nice features but it isn't exactly cheap, either. Not for the class. I wouldn't be interested at all in this bike.
Pretty sure this has been the best selling bike in its class. Hardly undesirable. And people rave about how cheap it is
I feel the same.....Aprilia RS660 for me!! Or here's to hoping KTM does a bigger RC390 and rebirths the RC8 nameplate!!!
God this is old and no one will read this, but I have to point out that one can fundamentally disagree with what Zach said around the 17:00 mark. Motorcycles are intrinsically emotional purchases, and I think there's too much logic being used to justify certain purchases in this segment of sport bikes. There's never a reason to ride or drive something that does a 10sec quarter mile on a daily basis, or has legit chops at the track. It's just because it's fun. I think we're starting to lose a lot of that. If someone's into riding a screaming 600cc four pot every day, despite the obvious discomfort and impractically of it, God bless em. It certainly could mean there's vanity to the pursuit, but damnit if it isn't just because it's fun.
Great video as always.
Why can't a sport bike that has an upright seating position and gets 50 mpg while costing a fraction the price of a modern car be a logical and emotional purchase?