I’m looking forward to a revzilla track day with this bike. Really want to know top speed and is it worth have as a track day only bike vs a used super sport.
It’s a good bike for those interested in track days, but will do daily stuff 90% of the time. They don’t have to buy an MT-07 and do all kinds of aftermarket stuff to make it track prepped. In that way it does “make sense.”
@@jameswylie6671 some want a new bike for the track. And in the middle weight class the SV650 are kings. The R7 is basically a SV650 that is track ready
@@wolfgangrembeck Idk I still don't get it. A new bike for the track sounds like you'll just be too scared of scratching it to really push it to its limits
@@jameswylie6671 i totally agree with you. I would even buy the gladius since it's the same bike, just cheaper, and put full fairings on it. But i know some people who can only ride new bikes, even on the track
Just bought an R7, and I love how it's fun and sporty. It feels like a super sport with the clip-ons, but doesn't have insane power which I like. I don't have the opportunity to really use a bike with 100+ horsepower often, and I love the low end torque on this. I also just use it as a good weather commuter and a weekend bike.
As someone who owns an R7 as has put 5k miles in 2 months, here is my take. I am 5’6 215 lbs. I ride it as my daily and I do about 100-200 miles a day for work. When I first got the bike I rode it immediately to Laguna Seca for MotoAmerica from Los Angeles. Came back with about 900miles. I stopped every 100 miles for gas although I could’ve went more. My wrists were killing me on long rides and my left knee is bad and was hurting as well. However, that is on stock setup. Ergonomics is very important. I setup up my suspension the best I can thanks to Dave Moss, and I adjusted the bars and pushed them out a little as to get the weight off my wrists. MUCH better ride now. I can do a 100mile ride and have no pain now. Note that my ass or back have never hurt on a ride. Honestly i believe it is the best sport bike for the street u can get. Has the power u need, fully adjustable suspension which can costs tons of money, blinkers come with emergency lights, slipper clutch, good front brakes and brembo master cylinder. For the value it is pretty damn good. Sure it’s not the most comfortable due to the aggressiveness but if u were gonna get an R6 or other aggressive bike this would be a better option. Looks bitchin, feels nimble and light as hell in the turns and is fun as fuck in canyons. Has the torque to have fun with wheelies. The seat is very large and very comfortable. I also rode to the desert and on my way back I was able to get 160miles non stop to my home on one tank. That’s probably the closest Ill get to Yamahas mpg lol. An amazing bike that people are bashing before they even ride it. Take it from someone who has put in the miles on this bike. It’s worth it and it does make sense.
I don’t understand why they discontinued the r6 as a road bike. I heard it was because it didn’t meet Euro5, but the race version now DOES meet Euro5 meaning the engine is allowed for road use.
My guess would be because it’s probably a lot cheaper for them because they can use the engine, wheels etc. from the MT07, XSR700 and don’t have to design/produce as much specifically for the R7. It’s what most car and also bike manufacturers do nowadays to cut cost
@@Jay-yg8jj God he was an idiot back then. I also stopped watching for a couple years around that time. He's gotten older and less noobish, also has hired some new castmembers/staff that help make it fun. Became a track boi and doesn't street Rossi as badly. Probably the some of the funniest motorcycle content on the interwebs honestly. (If not exactly as enlightened as what you get from, say, a Zach Courts or a Michael Neeves.)
I feel like this is similar to what Nissan did to the S13-S14 240SX in the US. They took a pretty capable chassis and stuck a low revving/low hp engine in it (KA24) while the rest of the world got a higher performance/higher revving engine (SR20) that suits the purpose of the car much more. Just like the 240SX became really popular once they became old enough that people start swapping engines, this bike might be popular in 10 years when there are big bore kits, higher revving cams, and if they cracked the ECU increasing the redline.
I would have like to see the rider triangle split the difference between a R3 and R6. That is now what I would like to see with an R9. Pegs need to be high enough for track use, but the bars should be high enough for reasonably comfortable street use.
I don't understand why Yamaha made the R7, a MT-07 in a track bike package to ride uncomfortably on the street. You're better off just getting a MT-07. I wish Yamaha would redesign the MT-10 already.
Mt07 is ridiculously ugly. R7 will be the next big stuntbike. Extremely reliable, motor has tons of torque, only downside on the MT07 was the garbage fork and tank that was hard to modify (it was plastic tank with shroud). MT07 is the fastest growing stunt bike and this is better in every category. Just need others to wreck them so we can buy them for cheap lol
Zack this is such a awsome series. Would enjoy seeing a close up of the tally board as a final view once you end your daily rider review. Thanks for all your efforts. Damn I'd sure like to ride all those bikes!
I’m so glad Yamaha released this bike. I bought my first bike (ninja 300) about 5yrs ago and I love it but at the track you need more ground clearance and the suspension is definitely built to price point. A little more power wouldn’t hurt either and the R7 solves those issues so I feel like it was built for a buyer like me in mind
you should have gone with something more powerful. trust me you can handle it. right now you are just sacraficing all the comfort for non of the performance
Depends on the usage a lot of People like me whod like to daily it dont need that much power. Also the r7 has really good low end speed and you dont even need the top speed daily
It makes totally sense from an european standpoint , because we don’t get the r6 as a first bike. The problem is, the licence A2 which offers you the chance to ride a bike with only 35kw(47hp) or limited from 70kw (max 94hp). The mt-07 was a very good choice because you were able to buy only the r3 or to limit the mt-07. Now, limiting the r7 is a very very good bike to buy as a starter (sportbike).
FYI I daily ride a R7 and it's awesome. Perfect blend of high torque romp and fuel efficiency. if you don't like the riding position then spend more time in the gym.
I hope Yamaha brings out the R9 in the future with that same aggressive ergonomics package so it can be a Japanese reincarnation of the Daytona. Because the world needs another Daytona!
@@sterlingroberts6240the r7 is there because making euro 5 r6 is more costly and prob will end up like cbr 600 where they make it euro 4 and then change the ruling into euro5 making the bike a loss machine lol
@@sabbathperalta4119 The Daytona 660 is a fine middleweight sports tourer, but when compared to its latest predecessor its a terrible track alternative. Less aggressive ergonomics, non adjustable suspension, notably less power, and all around more budget components. If a person wants a sport touring style bike, its great, but its not a supersport.
Hearing about the ergo's, I'd buy a used R6 over this if I was going to subject myself to the rigors of riding a dedicated sport bike on the road again.
The dude at the Demo Day today told me it's technically less aggressive ergos than the R6 (the fact that he said "technically" made me lol because I was laying down head-first the entire test ride and I am 5'11)
And that right there is the problem with this bike. Too little motor, or too little daily comfort. It needed to be a GSXR750 if Yamaha wants it to stay relevant
I have a MT-07 and love the CP2 engine but Yamaha should have bumped up the power on the R7. I'm sure they were trying to save money and keep this priced as competitively as they can though. This bike paired with a Hordpower intake, exhaust, and tune would probably be pretty fun if the setup on my bike is anything to go by.
I love watching your videos. Both for the pre-learning experience of each bike and the geographical scenery. I grew up on the streets you ride in and I love reminiscing with your videos.
It's pretty amazing how well the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 is holding up against other more high-end bikes. It seems to be the sweet spot in so many ways: price, performance, comfort, and ease of maintenance.
Yea but it just looks ugly as shit...same reason why I dont want to get SV650, one of the best (if not the best) motorcycles in naked category with 650cc, but it just looks old and ugly as shit.
It would be great if you guys could include metric conversions. I understand that this would be tricky for the host, maybe just as an on-screen text when he mentions something?
Why is everyone beating around the fact that this is the R6 replacement and does everything worse. Yamaha said the market didn't support a mid-class sport bike, then release this a year later. We're all here pretending this is an MT-07 variant. R series branding. Aggressive sport bike ergonomics Makes half the power of the outgoing model.
probably because the r7 is cheaper and R6 sales have been pretty slow. the Lower price tag will attract alot of people, especially ones who know nothing about sport bikes besides the looks 🤭 Most people on sport bikes will never go to a track or do much of anything, they just love the look 👀
I fucking hate the hate this bike receives. Its perfect for its intended use. I got down from the R1 into the R7 and yes of course the R1 is a rocket ship. But some day you’ll grow up and mature, realizing that speed will only get you killed. In line 4s: for racing. Twins: for daily riding and commuting (and adv bines) For me, a sport bike (my favorite type of motorcycle) with a relaxed engine is fire!! Love it everyday day
@@250ignacio An inline-4 is the superior engine for a motorcycle. It's benefits are not exclusive to racing. We're being forced to buy twin engines because of emission standards. Not because we want them.
Thanks for showing different riding scenarios. Been trying to found out as much as i can about this bike, and these types of ride along help greatly in determining if its the right kind of bike for me
Seems like the cbr650r is a better choice. More relaxed ergos, 4 cylinder for highway, better build quality. This engine is just perfect for a naked, city bike.
Theres nothing wrong with yamaha build quality .... ive never even heard anybody say there is, where did you get that from? I've worked on plenty of yamahas in my garage, and never seen a single issue with their quality.
@@dennisclark9544 Oh no you misunderstood me. Yamaha builds great machines, super reliable. Honda just makes things “nicer” to look at, ya know? Maybe it’s just me…
@@paintup46 honda do make a great bike. But in our experience in the garage, the reputation of "its a honda" has turned out to be a bad thing. Because of their rep for running forever and being bulletproof, we get a lot of hondas that haven't had any maintenance done in years. Credit to honda, they do all still run fine, but for us the worst thing about a honda, has been the owners
@@paintup46 we just had a honda blackbird in a few weeks ago, the owner had done the oil change and not put enough in, it only had just over half what it should have. No surprise, the poor thing was knocking, I drained the oil, it was full of copper from the crank bearings being absolutely worn out from no oil - but, it still ran pretty well considering. You definitely can't knock honda reliability
Low clipons are great because if you want more comfortable position you just change them for higher clipons with no mods. Other way round and you have to cut fairings and deal with other problems. R3 to be a good sport bike need a lot investment (front and rear suspension, brakes, clipons, rear sets). On other side you can buy R7, change rear shock and have much better performance and fun in similare price. Questions I have in mind is: -Stock rear shock is so bad as MT07 -Do you hit your hand on faring or tank in full lock -Gearing is different then in MT07?
The last question was spot on and my answer would be the same - Does it make sense: No. I tried it in my dealership but I dont get it. If I want commute on "wanna be" sportbike I take ninja 650 and if I want more from it I buy RS660. Why would I buy bike which is so much lean forward and has cp2 680cc. I dont get this bike and its missed chance from yamaha for me. Nice thinking from yamaha - "lets make low horse power bike with power downlow for cummuting and sometimes trackday but make it that way noone can sit on it more than 40mins"
You buy this bike for a good, affordable, beginner/entry level track bike. No complicated electronics and capable of competing in the twin cup. Personally I'm waiting for the R9 but this is a great bike.
It is much better spec then the very heavy ninja. It also has much better suspension and sounds better. It is a bit cheaper then the RS660 with a very proven engine in terms of reliability. The engine is also much better for in town (power hits super low) compared to the RS (although the rider triangle is much worse). I think it slots in nicely and I personally would take it over any 600 supersport. Unfortunately I ride a literbike and they are basically the best of both worlds. Great low end power and high end power.
@@deathwish8339 I dont say you are not right but you cannot ride this as commuter...and ninja is maybe heavier but I would choose ninja over this everyday if I ride just to work. Look again at that 180 turn...it was almost 3 parking spaces. And if I want something for track I am already spending a lot money on bikes/track/gear and I would rather take RS660 which has more power. And RS660 has power downlow too...not the same but enough. And you can take it for trip no problem with cruise control and more relaxed ergo.
Hit the canyons and it will make sense. I own an SV650N and the power and performance is a great balance for spirited riding on twisty roads. You get the torque to blast out of corners without having so much power you have to tip toe around the throttle to avoid breaking the rear loose. Also the ~70 hp means you aren't hitting 130mph between turns. Another thing, these bikes are flickable and easy to handle. Even though they aren't much lighter than a 600 supersport, they have narrower tires. The R7 is meant to be an affordable sport bike for the street. Yeah you could buy an rs660 but it's $2500 more. If you don't need all the technowizardry (which to be honest, you don't on bikes like these) the R7 is the bike to get.
In my country, a 600CC supersport is not just a vanity package. It is actually CHEAPER in the long run. Insurance here don't examine power output. They look at 1. Displacement Size, 2. Type of bike (e.g. Sport, naked). The R7 is going to demand a higher premium than the R6.
That's how it is in the US with my insurance company. My 600cc bandit costs half as much to insure as my 40 year old suzuki GS850 because the 850cc motor puts it into a different bike category, even though the bandit makes slightly more HP.
the thing that most or some people aren't getting is that it is designed for racing on the tracks, but can also be used for daily commute. I have a 2017 FZ07 for my daily and a 2006 YZF R1 for tracks, so I use them for what I intend to. I am getting that R7 thoughbecause it is much lighter than the R1 (obviously)
As a CBR 650R daily rider it does everything incredibly well - short of tours and distances you would be looking at a sports tourer/adventure anyways. 45mpg only city, 55mpg B-roads two up. Filters through traffic like nothing, puts a smile on your face every time. Ergos I'd consider good/comfortable for what is still a sports bike, pillion will complain an hour in. I'm 5'10 for comparison
I do wonder how this bike does on the market. I'd personally rather go for a CBR650R or an RS660 (if I had more money) because I'm more about daily and weekend rides then doing 2+ track days a year. On a sidenote, looking at the board I think you undervalued your KTM a bit.
I have no need for a sport bike being 51 yr old. My Duke 790 is amazing. My Honda ST1300 is plenty comfortable. My Harley has the sound and look. BUT! When I seen the R7 60th anniversary and with Mt07 motor I was like I have to have one. To me it's absolutely stunning. So mine is on order. CANT WAIT!! Just in time for my trip to the smokey mountains.
I'd rather get a Ninja 650 for a more relaxed sportbike commuter, or if I had extra money the RS660. The more people review the R7 the more I realize they should've released the R9 first.
I was thinking this would be more relaxed. After test driving one today at a Yamaha Demo Day I can tell you that you are going to be laying down forward on it haha at least I am 5'11 and I was TUCKED!
I know what you mean. However I think because of reliability/ dealership availability I would still choose the R7 over the RS660. I would personally go for the ninja but it’s such a different bike, it doesn’t really compare.
@@TheRausing1 That's the problem though, it will be compared, and every reviewer is saying the same thing. The R7 is a fun bike but it's not good enough to replace the R6 so instead it's more of a sporty fun commuter but then it has the aggressive ergos which makes it not so fun for long trips. R9 would've been the better replacement especially since there is the SP version for the MT09 that can go to the R9. R7 should've been the successor to the FZ6R which was Yamaha's equivalent to the Ninja 650 before they discontinued it 5 years ago.
@@TheRausing1 it does compare to the N650 though, it's what it's logically slotted against. This is to the MT07 what the N650 is to the Z650. The R7 is vastly more expensive, less comfortable, and probably not much if any quicker than the ninja. It's too expensive for the power it offers. There are quiet a few more powerful and compelling bikes at or near it's price.
A bike for someone that wants the sportbike look and all of the cons with it, but for some reason does not want the performance. I personally don't get it, but to each their own.
Exactly my thoughts but anytime I say something similar people in comments keep saying how this is going to be a “perfect bike” for so many people. Idk, just seems like an odd bike to me.
If everyone thought that way motorcycles would have been dead decades ago. There has always been sporty looking bikes with lower hp. Everyone doesn't need the "performance" especially someone oh just got into riding.
It's like all the bad points rolled into one platform. Uncomfortable aggressive ergonomics rolled into an around town powertrain. At least it looks good!
Yes it makes sense, they already have the MT07. They were free to make this track aggressive. Less work to make track ready! This would be a great step up from the Ninja 400. Check out the MotoAmerica Twins class. RS660 and R7 and SV650s, where it makes the most sense
youre not supposed to have weight on your wrists anyways, thats on your technique and not the bikes fault. thats like saying "man this shifter is hard to reach" meanwhile your toes are on the footpeg. no shit its hard to reach, youre not riding it right.
Thanks for the great review, Zack! I don't understand the measures but it's fine for me, the context matters! Drag race at the end of the video was cool! haha I would like to ask about the headlamps of the motorcycles, because it's a good point to check and compare with other bikes!
If I could have only one bike it would be a inline 4 sports bike , you can commute, tour , carve through corners/Track days. The engine is so flexible, take it easy keep it under 6k rpm and generally come with better brakes, suspension and wind protection plus front end feel when pushing on. Enjoy your videos.
I’ll be interested to see how the new gsx-s1000gt goes. I’ve been looking at a MT-09 but loving sportbike look more. Mainly riding around town in Taiwan this R6 is a contender, but after riding an MT07 I feel it would not be exciting enough when you want it to be. Also rs660 vs new gsx-s1000gt. They are around the same price.
If comfort is at all I priority or if you want to carry things then I think the new gsx-s1000gt pretty much automatically wins that comparison. We'll have to wait for ride reviews, but it seems like it should have more than enough power to win/tie this comparison in speed and the only think the rs660 or R7 could win at would be possibly price or flickability/handling, though I'm sure the 1000gt would be no slouch in the twisties.
@@pauly1k Sports look, tourer vs sports bike. They seem to be just names. Given the really high price of imported motorcycles in Taiwan basically double the US price, I can’t really afford both. Second hand bikes are also not so cheap. Most places don’t give test rides, so since the price is 10-12k USD cross shopping everything. Suzuki and Yamaha have more service shops. Looking to make the best guess.
@@sparkythewildcat97 agreed. Engine sound and quality will probably go to RS660 but it will be interesting to see the Suzuki reviews, it looks like a good bike hopefully not a pig in traffic.
I’ve been waiting on a tiger 900 or tiger 1200 review. Would be nice to have the 900 review and then the 2022 1200 when it’s available. But I do love the reviews so keep on riding!
Excellent review. I enjoyed the Q&A. I tried this bike and I changed my mind 1 mile later. This is not a commuting bike. It’s a weekend-at-the-canyons bike. It is terribly uncomfortable. Very pretty but uncomfortable. I’m getting the MT07.
I test road it too this weekend and found it was extremely aggressive ride. I was all the way leaned over and it got tiresome to ride rather quickly. I don’t get the point of it, it’s a dedicated track bike with its ergos with an engine for the streets.
@@xreed8 idk man. Guess it ain’t for everyone, I have no complaints.. even on rides where it’s 300 plus miles straight. I been good. Hope you find something that fits you tho bro
This bike is for a MotoGP lover, a 22 year old guy who lives in Europe and has just got his full licence. You’ll feel like Rossi, you can learn to wheelie, get your knee down. Insurance won’t bankrupt you and is capable of comfortably going on motorways and blazing around. All while not trying to kill you. And can turn into a nice little beast with a full exhaust system and tune one day. This bike will make Yamaha so much money.
Best all around sportbike is the CBR650R.. Strangely I put the gsxr750 in 2nd place bc although it's a crotch rocket it's actually pretty comfy (I'm still shocked after 3yrs) ..I've done several 225 mile trips with ease.. this bike is great for someone coming from a 300/400cc , I can live with 74hp but aggressive ergos and a 32.9 seat height? I'll pass..
GSXR’s in general are street friendly for being super-sports. The pegs being adjustable makes a big difference. The ZX6R is also more comfortable. Both the GSXR 600/750 and the ZX6R actually have more laid back ergonomics compared to the R7. Lower seat heights, same clip on heights, plus the rear sets are a hair lower on the ZX6R and the GSXR. If I was going to buy a super sport, it would be a ZX6R or a GSXR for those facts alone
This bike really should have had ergos more akin to the RS660 or R3. It should be a street focused sport bike, instead the full attack ergos do it a disservice.
Been riding an R6 for the last decade. This seems like such a travesty. The only thing I don’t like about the R6 is the uncomfortable riding position for longer duration rides. So, this keeps that and it’s 1/6th bigger with the engine and produces half the power. I wish they had created a sport focused line and called this the S7 or something. I would have virtually no complaints about it because it wouldn’t be a dumbed down R bike that cannot keep up with smaller displacement supersport machines.
This is just how bikes are now, they're never gonna go back to the way they was. But there's always gonna be used 600s to buy, it's just a shame that the younger people buying stuff like an R7 have no interest in riding a proper supersport
I have to confess Yamaha let me down with the R7, especially when I remember my beloved XJ6 F (or FZ6 R, or Diversion 600). I mean, it looks ridiculously good being so aggressive and sporty, but it's has a not-so-sporty powertrain. I'd certainly go for the MT-07 for a commuter or an R6 for a racer, but I'd still miss a middleweight sport-touring bike like my old XJ6 F. And I think that should be the benchmark: it's delicious around town, it's delicious in the twisties, looks awesome and, for that little extra, has a delicious straight-4 that's happy to sing at 11.000rpm. Thanks for another excellent video, Zack!
@@northofknowhere130 That's what the R7 is all about, but the riding position is way too aggressive. The powerplant is similar to the Ninja 650 and the CBR 650, but the riding position calls for, say, a 750cc straight-4 with about 150bhp. That's where I think Yamaha messed up.
@@andreasbeaufort3594 I completely agree about the ergonomics. They could've easily altered the windscreen/upper fairing and put on the R3 clip-ons, changing the bike completely.
I commend Yamaha for offering a sport-ish bike with a tractable twin. Not everyone needs a high-strung, 14,000 rpm four-pot for daily use. It sure would be neat to see Zack ride and review a genuine OW-02 R7.
Except it has all of the ergonomic drawbacks of a sport bike without the big power reward. The Ninja 650 is a way better choice if going the p-twin route.
They really should have gone Ninja 650 with this, they'd crushed this niche. But they went only the half way, they took away R6 power and didn't give it the comfort. I bought Ninja 650 just before news about R7 came out, and I was regretting it back then. But after riding the Ninja and watching this video, I don't, Ninja It's so comfortable, I can ride it from dawn till dusk and even longer.
God this is old and no one will read this, but I have to point out that one can fundamentally disagree with what Zach said around the 17:00 mark. Motorcycles are intrinsically emotional purchases, and I think there's too much logic being used to justify certain purchases in this segment of sport bikes. There's never a reason to ride or drive something that does a 10sec quarter mile on a daily basis, or has legit chops at the track. It's just because it's fun. I think we're starting to lose a lot of that. If someone's into riding a screaming 600cc four pot every day, despite the obvious discomfort and impractically of it, God bless em. It certainly could mean there's vanity to the pursuit, but damnit if it isn't just because it's fun. Great video as always.
Why can't a sport bike that has an upright seating position and gets 50 mpg while costing a fraction the price of a modern car be a logical and emotional purchase?
I love the Daily Rider vids with Zack. Great info and presentation. I was wondering if the R7's ergos would be good enough for a casual rider, sounds like maybe not. I'm after something with decent ergonomics, some wind protection, that's not 600lbs nor made for someone with a 35" inseam. I regret selling my 2007 FZ6, they don't really make them like that anymore.
@Kattrap Nice bike you've got yourself there! I ended up buying a new model Tracer 7 this year, partly as I found the Tenere to be slightly too tall for my short legs.
@Kattrap The Tenere is a likely candidate for me. I just wish it was shorter. I'm just not as flexible as I was back when I rode a 1990 kick start DR650. Swinging a leg over is a chore. Great bike otherwise though.
Consider Ninja 650 or CBR650R. I personally picked Ninja 650 and not regretting it. I am comfortable riding it for the whole day and all that plastic and OEM taller wind screen give good wind protection, It's a bliss riding it after riding a naked bike. Also because of different engine composition, they managed to make bike lower and it should be comfortable for you.
Does it make sense, I'd say yes, if u want to learn on a motorcycle with less cc's/better mileage, but u want to learn on a platform that will prepare you for the kind of stance that you'll get for when u upgrade to a bigger bike, I'd say it's perfect for that, it's a better bike to learn with than any 300cc and ninja 650 if u plan to upgrade
The question is always in the context of a daily rider and at i think your answer begs the follow up of does an uncomfortable bike with a bigger engine make sense as a daily rider and if that is a no, then neither is the R7
This bike is designed for riders to grow up from 250- 400cc bikes. Filling the gap between beginner bike and super sport. Not for daily, or experienced rider but for those like to take go fast in a steady pace. If you already riding same or bigger bike or believe you can handle super sport than clearly it is not for you. From industry/business perspective it make perfect sense. The sales number does not lie - R7 is selling like hot cake.
Can you guys add in rolling hill estate palos verde drive east doing a review? It's right off 710 and 110. Not too long but good amount of small twisties and view of rolling hills showing bike's leaning potential.
I got to ride the R7 at Sonoma last month, and I rode an RS660 at Buttonwillow earlier this year. The agree 100% the bike doesn’t quite make sense. The only way I’d consider this over the Aprilia is reliability. For a street bike the Aprilia is just more desirable. For a track bike I think they’re both too expensive :P
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I’m looking forward to a revzilla track day with this bike. Really want to know top speed and is it worth have as a track day only bike vs a used super sport.
That maybe what I want but what I need is your reaction "Zack" 150cc Sportsbike dominating Indian market within competitors
Any plans to review a gsxs1000gt in the near future?
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It’s a good bike for those interested in track days, but will do daily stuff 90% of the time.
They don’t have to buy an MT-07 and do all kinds of aftermarket stuff to make it track prepped.
In that way it does “make sense.”
Why not just get an mt07 and a used actual track bike tho?
@@jameswylie6671 some want a new bike for the track. And in the middle weight class the SV650 are kings. The R7 is basically a SV650 that is track ready
@@wolfgangrembeck Idk I still don't get it. A new bike for the track sounds like you'll just be too scared of scratching it to really push it to its limits
New mt07 for the road, old sv650 you dont have to worry about lowsiding on track just makes far more sense to me
@@jameswylie6671 i totally agree with you. I would even buy the gladius since it's the same bike, just cheaper, and put full fairings on it. But i know some people who can only ride new bikes, even on the track
One should ALWAYS watch the vids til the end. ZACH CORTS for the win. You cold SMOKED that breakout!
Now we don't have to, you gave us the ending.
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Looked like Harley to the line first, but it was close so maybe the perspective fooled me
Just bought an R7, and I love how it's fun and sporty. It feels like a super sport with the clip-ons, but doesn't have insane power which I like. I don't have the opportunity to really use a bike with 100+ horsepower often, and I love the low end torque on this. I also just use it as a good weather commuter and a weekend bike.
As someone who owns an R7 as has put 5k miles in 2 months, here is my take. I am 5’6 215 lbs. I ride it as my daily and I do about 100-200 miles a day for work. When I first got the bike I rode it immediately to Laguna Seca for MotoAmerica from Los Angeles. Came back with about 900miles. I stopped every 100 miles for gas although I could’ve went more. My wrists were killing me on long rides and my left knee is bad and was hurting as well. However, that is on stock setup. Ergonomics is very important. I setup up my suspension the best I can thanks to Dave Moss, and I adjusted the bars and pushed them out a little as to get the weight off my wrists. MUCH better ride now. I can do a 100mile ride and have no pain now. Note that my ass or back have never hurt on a ride. Honestly i believe it is the best sport bike for the street u can get. Has the power u need, fully adjustable suspension which can costs tons of money, blinkers come with emergency lights, slipper clutch, good front brakes and brembo master cylinder. For the value it is pretty damn good. Sure it’s not the most comfortable due to the aggressiveness but if u were gonna get an R6 or other aggressive bike this would be a better option. Looks bitchin, feels nimble and light as hell in the turns and is fun as fuck in canyons. Has the torque to have fun with wheelies. The seat is very large and very comfortable. I also rode to the desert and on my way back I was able to get 160miles non stop to my home on one tank. That’s probably the closest Ill get to Yamahas mpg lol. An amazing bike that people are bashing before they even ride it. Take it from someone who has put in the miles on this bike. It’s worth it and it does make sense.
When you say you adjusted the bars what do you mean by that?
I gave a thumbs up for the drag race at the end
Just FYI if you point a finger at someone there are at least 3 fingers pointing back at you.
When the other guy doesn’t even know you’re racing lol. Kinda like me in my E550 so much power.
That ending will have me smiling the rest of the day! HAHA
Did he say Wobbly-Davidson, LOL
I don’t understand why they discontinued the r6 as a road bike. I heard it was because it didn’t meet Euro5, but the race version now DOES meet Euro5 meaning the engine is allowed for road use.
My guess would be because it’s probably a lot cheaper for them because they can use the engine, wheels etc. from the MT07, XSR700 and don’t have to design/produce as much specifically for the R7. It’s what most car and also bike manufacturers do nowadays to cut cost
Now we just need you and Ari to take alllll the bikes from Daily Rider and make a Track Rider version of the show. ;)
Daily racer?
That thud you just heard was Yammie Newb hitting the floor as a Royal Enfield bested an R7 at anything.
People still watch that clown after he smacked into a Porsche doing his Rossi impression? I thought he was irrelevant like 4 years ago.
@@Jay-yg8jj God he was an idiot back then. I also stopped watching for a couple years around that time. He's gotten older and less noobish, also has hired some new castmembers/staff that help make it fun. Became a track boi and doesn't street Rossi as badly. Probably the some of the funniest motorcycle content on the interwebs honestly. (If not exactly as enlightened as what you get from, say, a Zach Courts or a Michael Neeves.)
I've never seen a thing from that guy just because of the comments 🤣
Yammie "tool"...
1 minute of real footage and 10 minutes of stock google images and videos glued together..Guys a joke.
I feel like this is similar to what Nissan did to the S13-S14 240SX in the US. They took a pretty capable chassis and stuck a low revving/low hp engine in it (KA24) while the rest of the world got a higher performance/higher revving engine (SR20) that suits the purpose of the car much more. Just like the 240SX became really popular once they became old enough that people start swapping engines, this bike might be popular in 10 years when there are big bore kits, higher revving cams, and if they cracked the ECU increasing the redline.
There's already turbo kits for this engine. It will be incredibly popular to build once people get off the R6's dick.
The outro is hilarious! "He doesn't even know we're racing but I won!" 😂 Zack would be a cool riding buddy! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
every rider does that at some point at the traffic light, whahaha
I would have like to see the rider triangle split the difference between a R3 and R6. That is now what I would like to see with an R9. Pegs need to be high enough for track use, but the bars should be high enough for reasonably comfortable street use.
I don't understand why Yamaha made the R7, a MT-07 in a track bike package to ride uncomfortably on the street. You're better off just getting a MT-07. I wish Yamaha would redesign the MT-10 already.
Mt07 is ridiculously ugly. R7 will be the next big stuntbike. Extremely reliable, motor has tons of torque, only downside on the MT07 was the garbage fork and tank that was hard to modify (it was plastic tank with shroud). MT07 is the fastest growing stunt bike and this is better in every category. Just need others to wreck them so we can buy them for cheap lol
You underestimate the vanity of a large part of motorcyclists who care too much about image.
Yamaha needed a R bike to fill the gap between the R3 and R6.
Zack this is such a awsome series. Would enjoy seeing a close up of the tally board as a final view once you end your daily rider review. Thanks for all your efforts. Damn I'd sure like to ride all those bikes!
Yea id rather save the cash and get the mt if i want a true sportbike o want the engine to back the looks
I’m so glad Yamaha released this bike. I bought my first bike (ninja 300) about 5yrs ago and I love it but at the track you need more ground clearance and the suspension is definitely built to price point. A little more power wouldn’t hurt either and the R7 solves those issues so I feel like it was built for a buyer like me in mind
you should have gone with something more powerful. trust me you can handle it. right now you are just sacraficing all the comfort for non of the performance
Depends on the usage a lot of People like me whod like to daily it dont need that much power. Also the r7 has really good low end speed and you dont even need the top speed daily
It makes totally sense from an european standpoint , because we don’t get the r6 as a first bike. The problem is, the licence A2 which offers you the chance to ride a bike with only 35kw(47hp) or limited from 70kw (max 94hp). The mt-07 was a very good choice because you were able to buy only the r3 or to limit the mt-07. Now, limiting the r7 is a very very good bike to buy as a starter (sportbike).
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FYI I daily ride a R7 and it's awesome. Perfect blend of high torque romp and fuel efficiency. if you don't like the riding position then spend more time in the gym.
I hope Yamaha brings out the R9 in the future with that same aggressive ergonomics package so it can be a Japanese reincarnation of the Daytona. Because the world needs another Daytona!
I’m cool with that. The R7 doesn’t make sense to me, but that works.
@@sterlingroberts6240the r7 is there because making euro 5 r6 is more costly and prob will end up like cbr 600 where they make it euro 4 and then change the ruling into euro5 making the bike a loss machine lol
The Daytona 660 is here now
@@sabbathperalta4119 The Daytona 660 is a fine middleweight sports tourer, but when compared to its latest predecessor its a terrible track alternative. Less aggressive ergonomics, non adjustable suspension, notably less power, and all around more budget components.
If a person wants a sport touring style bike, its great, but its not a supersport.
What a craftsman is Zack , master of evaluating, demonstrating, articulating and entertaining riders like me! Thank you, RevZilla!
"Are we drag racing.. I won hahaha" Awesome, just awesome! Thanks for the laughs
Hearing about the ergo's, I'd buy a used R6 over this if I was going to subject myself to the rigors of riding a dedicated sport bike on the road again.
The dude at the Demo Day today told me it's technically less aggressive ergos than the R6 (the fact that he said "technically" made me lol because I was laying down head-first the entire test ride and I am 5'11)
And that right there is the problem with this bike. Too little motor, or too little daily comfort. It needed to be a GSXR750 if Yamaha wants it to stay relevant
@@MoswenMedia They should have used the MT09 engine..
@@beingsolo80 I can agree with that.
I'll just keep my 636
My heart says “YES” my hips, my ass, my shoulders and wrists say wake up old man 👴🏻 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mt10 is an extremely comfortable compromise for my size anyway
I'm right with ya!
I have a MT-07 and love the CP2 engine but Yamaha should have bumped up the power on the R7. I'm sure they were trying to save money and keep this priced as competitively as they can though. This bike paired with a Hordpower intake, exhaust, and tune would probably be pretty fun if the setup on my bike is anything to go by.
Isn't it about time to get the KTM 890 Adventure R on this here program?
I have a fz6r and the cross plane 4 cylinder makes beautiful noises like an f1 race car. R7 not so much.
I love watching your videos. Both for the pre-learning experience of each bike and the geographical scenery. I grew up on the streets you ride in and I love reminiscing with your videos.
It's pretty amazing how well the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 is holding up against other more high-end bikes. It seems to be the sweet spot in so many ways: price, performance, comfort, and ease of maintenance.
Interceptor 650 looks ugly
Yea but it just looks ugly as shit...same reason why I dont want to get SV650, one of the best (if not the best) motorcycles in naked category with 650cc, but it just looks old and ugly as shit.
Royal enfield makes rubbish motorcycles
@@rayhan4502 The Continental GT looks amazing though - basically the same bike with more aggressive ergonomics and much better styling.
Where did Royal Enfield fit into this vid
It would be great if you guys could include metric conversions. I understand that this would be tricky for the host, maybe just as an on-screen text when he mentions something?
I agree with you! Even if its numbers on the screen! Thanks for sharing your point!
They are included in the description
It's a good idea. Doug DeMuro does it and it's really helpful.
It’s not too hard really. 100kmh is 62mph, 400lbs is 181kg, 200hp is 147kw
Why is everyone beating around the fact that this is the R6 replacement and does everything worse. Yamaha said the market didn't support a mid-class sport bike, then release this a year later. We're all here pretending this is an MT-07 variant.
R series branding.
Aggressive sport bike ergonomics
Makes half the power of the outgoing model.
probably because the r7 is cheaper and R6 sales have been pretty slow. the Lower price tag will attract alot of people, especially ones who know nothing about sport bikes besides the looks 🤭 Most people on sport bikes will never go to a track or do much of anything, they just love the look 👀
@@DefZen343 But those people will also hate the aggressive ergos that really have no place outside of homologation for track use.
@@nunyabusiness896 they will hate it and wont admit it, i know 3 people like that, guess it will make their back muscles stronger atleast 😹
I fucking hate the hate this bike receives. Its perfect for its intended use. I got down from the R1 into the R7 and yes of course the R1 is a rocket ship. But some day you’ll grow up and mature, realizing that speed will only get you killed.
In line 4s: for racing.
Twins: for daily riding and commuting (and adv bines)
For me, a sport bike (my favorite type of motorcycle) with a relaxed engine is fire!! Love it everyday day
@@250ignacio
An inline-4 is the superior engine for a motorcycle. It's benefits are not exclusive to racing.
We're being forced to buy twin engines because of emission standards. Not because we want them.
Thanks for showing different riding scenarios. Been trying to found out as much as i can about this bike, and these types of ride along help greatly in determining if its the right kind of bike for me
Seems like the cbr650r is a better choice. More relaxed ergos, 4 cylinder for highway, better build quality. This engine is just perfect for a naked, city bike.
Theres nothing wrong with yamaha build quality .... ive never even heard anybody say there is, where did you get that from? I've worked on plenty of yamahas in my garage, and never seen a single issue with their quality.
@@dennisclark9544 Oh no you misunderstood me. Yamaha builds great machines, super reliable. Honda just makes things “nicer” to look at, ya know? Maybe it’s just me…
@@paintup46 honda do make a great bike. But in our experience in the garage, the reputation of "its a honda" has turned out to be a bad thing. Because of their rep for running forever and being bulletproof, we get a lot of hondas that haven't had any maintenance done in years. Credit to honda, they do all still run fine, but for us the worst thing about a honda, has been the owners
@@dennisclark9544 Makes sense.
@@paintup46 we just had a honda blackbird in a few weeks ago, the owner had done the oil change and not put enough in, it only had just over half what it should have. No surprise, the poor thing was knocking, I drained the oil, it was full of copper from the crank bearings being absolutely worn out from no oil - but, it still ran pretty well considering. You definitely can't knock honda reliability
The drag race at the end of the video was absolutely hilarious 🤣 , another enjoyable daily rider onto the next adventure
Low clipons are great because if you want more comfortable position you just change them for higher clipons with no mods. Other way round and you have to cut fairings and deal with other problems. R3 to be a good sport bike need a lot investment (front and rear suspension, brakes, clipons, rear sets). On other side you can buy R7, change rear shock and have much better performance and fun in similare price.
Questions I have in mind is:
-Stock rear shock is so bad as MT07
-Do you hit your hand on faring or tank in full lock
-Gearing is different then in MT07?
17:00 I think there’s a valid point for each engine. I like to have the option of both in the market.
The last question was spot on and my answer would be the same - Does it make sense: No. I tried it in my dealership but I dont get it. If I want commute on "wanna be" sportbike I take ninja 650 and if I want more from it I buy RS660.
Why would I buy bike which is so much lean forward and has cp2 680cc. I dont get this bike and its missed chance from yamaha for me. Nice thinking from yamaha - "lets make low horse power bike with power downlow for cummuting and sometimes trackday but make it that way noone can sit on it more than 40mins"
You buy this bike for a good, affordable, beginner/entry level track bike.
No complicated electronics and capable of competing in the twin cup.
Personally I'm waiting for the R9 but this is a great bike.
@@IDontKnow-bb6mt Maybe but tbh thats small % of riders...I expected something cool for everyday riding when its based on mt07 engine.
It is much better spec then the very heavy ninja. It also has much better suspension and sounds better.
It is a bit cheaper then the RS660 with a very proven engine in terms of reliability. The engine is also much better for in town (power hits super low) compared to the RS (although the rider triangle is much worse).
I think it slots in nicely and I personally would take it over any 600 supersport. Unfortunately I ride a literbike and they are basically the best of both worlds. Great low end power and high end power.
@@deathwish8339 I dont say you are not right but you cannot ride this as commuter...and ninja is maybe heavier but I would choose ninja over this everyday if I ride just to work. Look again at that 180 turn...it was almost 3 parking spaces.
And if I want something for track I am already spending a lot money on bikes/track/gear and I would rather take RS660 which has more power. And RS660 has power downlow too...not the same but enough. And you can take it for trip no problem with cruise control and more relaxed ergo.
Hit the canyons and it will make sense. I own an SV650N and the power and performance is a great balance for spirited riding on twisty roads. You get the torque to blast out of corners without having so much power you have to tip toe around the throttle to avoid breaking the rear loose. Also the ~70 hp means you aren't hitting 130mph between turns. Another thing, these bikes are flickable and easy to handle. Even though they aren't much lighter than a 600 supersport, they have narrower tires. The R7 is meant to be an affordable sport bike for the street. Yeah you could buy an rs660 but it's $2500 more. If you don't need all the technowizardry (which to be honest, you don't on bikes like these) the R7 is the bike to get.
I know it’s 2 grand more but I would pony up and get the RS660
You get a much more polished and powerful motorcycle definitely Worth the extra cash if you're buying a new bike anyways
Only caveat would be, not if it's your first bike. Rs660 is too nice to drop and parts are pricey and scarce.
@@chillpengeru that's true. But in reality you're first bike should never be a dealer bike in the first place 🤷
Aprilia’s dealer network in the u.s is terrible, and reliability is spotty.. yet I would still not buy the R7.
@@HKvsGlock I’m with ya man, I wouldn’t buy one either. Just get the better daily rider in the MT 07 and save 1400 dollars.
In my country, a 600CC supersport is not just a vanity package. It is actually CHEAPER in the long run. Insurance here don't examine power output. They look at 1. Displacement Size, 2. Type of bike (e.g. Sport, naked). The R7 is going to demand a higher premium than the R6.
That's how it is in the US with my insurance company. My 600cc bandit costs half as much to insure as my 40 year old suzuki GS850 because the 850cc motor puts it into a different bike category, even though the bandit makes slightly more HP.
Idk what spurg pays you but you deserve more zack
Love your reviews, Zack. You are down to earth, and give your honest opinions.
the thing that most or some people aren't getting is that it is designed for racing on the tracks, but can also be used for daily commute. I have a 2017 FZ07 for my daily and a 2006 YZF R1 for tracks, so I use them for what I intend to. I am getting that R7 thoughbecause it is much lighter than the R1 (obviously)
I would love to see what you think to the hondas Cbr650r as a daily rider.
As a CBR 650R daily rider it does everything incredibly well - short of tours and distances you would be looking at a sports tourer/adventure anyways.
45mpg only city, 55mpg B-roads two up. Filters through traffic like nothing, puts a smile on your face every time. Ergos I'd consider good/comfortable for what is still a sports bike, pillion will complain an hour in. I'm 5'10 for comparison
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3:04 Side of a vehicle, side of a vehicle, SIDE OF A VEHICLE!
I do wonder how this bike does on the market.
I'd personally rather go for a CBR650R or an RS660 (if I had more money) because I'm more about daily and weekend rides then doing 2+ track days a year.
On a sidenote, looking at the board I think you undervalued your KTM a bit.
I have no need for a sport bike being 51 yr old. My Duke 790 is amazing. My Honda ST1300 is plenty comfortable. My Harley has the sound and look. BUT! When I seen the R7 60th anniversary and with Mt07 motor I was like I have to have one. To me it's absolutely stunning. So mine is on order. CANT WAIT!! Just in time for my trip to the smokey mountains.
I'd rather get a Ninja 650 for a more relaxed sportbike commuter, or if I had extra money the RS660. The more people review the R7 the more I realize they should've released the R9 first.
I was thinking this would be more relaxed. After test driving one today at a Yamaha Demo Day I can tell you that you are going to be laying down forward on it haha at least I am 5'11 and I was TUCKED!
I know what you mean. However I think because of reliability/ dealership availability I would still choose the R7 over the RS660. I would personally go for the ninja but it’s such a different bike, it doesn’t really compare.
@@TheRausing1 That's the problem though, it will be compared, and every reviewer is saying the same thing. The R7 is a fun bike but it's not good enough to replace the R6 so instead it's more of a sporty fun commuter but then it has the aggressive ergos which makes it not so fun for long trips. R9 would've been the better replacement especially since there is the SP version for the MT09 that can go to the R9. R7 should've been the successor to the FZ6R which was Yamaha's equivalent to the Ninja 650 before they discontinued it 5 years ago.
@@TheRausing1 it does compare to the N650 though, it's what it's logically slotted against. This is to the MT07 what the N650 is to the Z650. The R7 is vastly more expensive, less comfortable, and probably not much if any quicker than the ninja. It's too expensive for the power it offers. There are quiet a few more powerful and compelling bikes at or near it's price.
These bikes look amazing in the 60th anniversary paint scheme.
Just searched it up..Wow didnt even hear about this. Beautiful!
Holy crap. That's a good lookin bike right there.
A bike for someone that wants the sportbike look and all of the cons with it, but for some reason does not want the performance. I personally don't get it, but to each their own.
Agree, shouldn't exist in the way it does...
Exactly my thoughts but anytime I say something similar people in comments keep saying how this is going to be a “perfect bike” for so many people. Idk, just seems like an odd bike to me.
@Вероника Заглотова From my understanding, its the MT07 engine in an R6 chasis.
If everyone thought that way motorcycles would have been dead decades ago.
There has always been sporty looking bikes with lower hp. Everyone doesn't need the "performance" especially someone oh just got into riding.
@@UvidCo Yes, but that was decades ago when there was a lot less selection. Now you can have the best of both worlds.
It's like all the bad points rolled into one platform. Uncomfortable aggressive ergonomics rolled into an around town powertrain. At least it looks good!
2:24 very warm in the sun... and it's almost winter here. sure enjoyed our 3.7 months of riding weather, though
I love this dude
I always look forward to Daily Rider episodes. Always chock full of well presented info!!
I still demand the Moto Guzzi V85tt episode. ;)
As boring as a 600cc I-4 is on the street, the pure drug of taking it to 14K rpms is not vanity. It is real and unavailable in a parallel twin.
Drugs are vanity
Zack is always sooo polite. I think he really hated riding this motorcycle.
Yes it makes sense, they already have the MT07. They were free to make this track aggressive. Less work to make track ready! This would be a great step up from the Ninja 400. Check out the MotoAmerica Twins class. RS660 and R7 and SV650s, where it makes the most sense
Great review as always.. "Doesn't make sense" I agree..and yes as an older rider, I'm not comfortable with putting weight on my wrists anymore!
I'm fairly young and I find the reward for the ergos is mediocre power and for 9000 there's better bikes
youre not supposed to have weight on your wrists anyways, thats on your technique and not the bikes fault. thats like saying "man this shifter is hard to reach" meanwhile your toes are on the footpeg. no shit its hard to reach, youre not riding it right.
Thanks for the great review, Zack! I don't understand the measures but it's fine for me, the context matters! Drag race at the end of the video was cool! haha I would like to ask about the headlamps of the motorcycles, because it's a good point to check and compare with other bikes!
Love the little race at the end
Great review, awesome bike. I appreciate your input, it helped me realize I'm defintely going for the 636.
On camera the dash is hard to see, dark and cables in the way.
The biggest question I have is; what is that guy protesting out front of your office? haha
Probably corvette guy
If I could have only one bike it would be a inline 4 sports bike , you can commute, tour , carve through corners/Track days. The engine is so flexible, take it easy keep it under 6k rpm and generally come with better brakes, suspension and wind protection plus front end feel when pushing on. Enjoy your videos.
I’ll be interested to see how the new gsx-s1000gt goes. I’ve been looking at a MT-09 but loving sportbike look more. Mainly riding around town in Taiwan this R6 is a contender, but after riding an MT07 I feel it would not be exciting enough when you want it to be. Also rs660 vs new gsx-s1000gt. They are around the same price.
The gsxs is a sport tourer. The r7 and rs660 are sport bikes. Not really comparable.
Weird cross shop, but ok.
If comfort is at all I priority or if you want to carry things then I think the new gsx-s1000gt pretty much automatically wins that comparison. We'll have to wait for ride reviews, but it seems like it should have more than enough power to win/tie this comparison in speed and the only think the rs660 or R7 could win at would be possibly price or flickability/handling, though I'm sure the 1000gt would be no slouch in the twisties.
@@pauly1k Sports look, tourer vs sports bike. They seem to be just names. Given the really high price of imported motorcycles in Taiwan basically double the US price, I can’t really afford both. Second hand bikes are also not so cheap. Most places don’t give test rides, so since the price is 10-12k USD cross shopping everything. Suzuki and Yamaha have more service shops. Looking to make the best guess.
@@sparkythewildcat97 agreed. Engine sound and quality will probably go to RS660 but it will be interesting to see the Suzuki reviews, it looks like a good bike hopefully not a pig in traffic.
I think Yamaha was focusing on the Twins cup and making an affordable track bike.
I’m 6’2 and was worried it would be a little small for me, glad to see you didn’t have a problem!
I’ve been waiting on a tiger 900 or tiger 1200 review. Would be nice to have the 900 review and then the 2022 1200 when it’s available. But I do love the reviews so keep on riding!
Love the intro. I think that's exactly how I'd welcome aliens to Earth.
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Excellent review. I enjoyed the Q&A. I tried this bike and I changed my mind 1 mile later. This is not a commuting bike. It’s a weekend-at-the-canyons bike. It is terribly uncomfortable. Very pretty but uncomfortable. I’m getting the MT07.
I ride this bike daily, 6 ft 150 lbs. extremely comfortable for me and perfect for being in Jacksonville. Mix of regular roads and interstate. Love it
I test road it too this weekend and found it was extremely aggressive ride. I was all the way leaned over and it got tiresome to ride rather quickly. I don’t get the point of it, it’s a dedicated track bike with its ergos with an engine for the streets.
@@xreed8 idk man. Guess it ain’t for everyone, I have no complaints.. even on rides where it’s 300 plus miles straight. I been good. Hope you find something that fits you tho bro
@@seanreade7283 Loved the look of it though! It was a 2022 anniversary edition, was definitely turning heads during the Yamaha test ride
@@xreed8 that’s the one i have. Ain’t seen another in Jacksonville yet, hope I got only one 🤣🤣
CBR650R when!?
This bike is for a MotoGP lover, a 22 year old guy who lives in Europe and has just got his full licence. You’ll feel like Rossi, you can learn to wheelie, get your knee down. Insurance won’t bankrupt you and is capable of comfortably going on motorways and blazing around. All while not trying to kill you. And can turn into a nice little beast with a full exhaust system and tune one day. This bike will make Yamaha so much money.
Been waiting for this
Best all around sportbike is the CBR650R.. Strangely I put the gsxr750 in 2nd place bc although it's a crotch rocket it's actually pretty comfy (I'm still shocked after 3yrs) ..I've done several 225 mile trips with ease.. this bike is great for someone coming from a 300/400cc , I can live with 74hp but aggressive ergos and a 32.9 seat height? I'll pass..
GSXR’s in general are street friendly for being super-sports. The pegs being adjustable makes a big difference. The ZX6R is also more comfortable. Both the GSXR 600/750 and the ZX6R actually have more laid back ergonomics compared to the R7. Lower seat heights, same clip on heights, plus the rear sets are a hair lower on the ZX6R and the GSXR. If I was going to buy a super sport, it would be a ZX6R or a GSXR for those facts alone
Great review!
Wow loved the ranked daily rider board at the end. Very informative thank you! Going to look at and sit on the r7 at the dealer tomorrow wish me luck.
Hey Zach, please do a daily rider on Honda cb650r abs
This bike really should have had ergos more akin to the RS660 or R3. It should be a street focused sport bike, instead the full attack ergos do it a disservice.
Yeah it has sportbike ergo with an engine made for a hooligans commuting
Watching you from France, great video✌️
the off road section and cheeky wheelie was great. very cool. class review
That Wobbly Davidson ending cracked me up .
Been riding an R6 for the last decade. This seems like such a travesty. The only thing I don’t like about the R6 is the uncomfortable riding position for longer duration rides.
So, this keeps that and it’s 1/6th bigger with the engine and produces half the power.
I wish they had created a sport focused line and called this the S7 or something. I would have virtually no complaints about it because it wouldn’t be a dumbed down R bike that cannot keep up with smaller displacement supersport machines.
This is just how bikes are now, they're never gonna go back to the way they was. But there's always gonna be used 600s to buy, it's just a shame that the younger people buying stuff like an R7 have no interest in riding a proper supersport
I have to confess Yamaha let me down with the R7, especially when I remember my beloved XJ6 F (or FZ6 R, or Diversion 600). I mean, it looks ridiculously good being so aggressive and sporty, but it's has a not-so-sporty powertrain. I'd certainly go for the MT-07 for a commuter or an R6 for a racer, but I'd still miss a middleweight sport-touring bike like my old XJ6 F. And I think that should be the benchmark: it's delicious around town, it's delicious in the twisties, looks awesome and, for that little extra, has a delicious straight-4 that's happy to sing at 11.000rpm. Thanks for another excellent video, Zack!
I honestly thought Yamaha was going to make a sport version of the MT07 to compete with the Ninja 650 and CBR 650R.
@@northofknowhere130 That's what the R7 is all about, but the riding position is way too aggressive. The powerplant is similar to the Ninja 650 and the CBR 650, but the riding position calls for, say, a 750cc straight-4 with about 150bhp. That's where I think Yamaha messed up.
@@andreasbeaufort3594 I completely agree about the ergonomics. They could've easily altered the windscreen/upper fairing and put on the R3 clip-ons, changing the bike completely.
Congratulations on 1 million!
That drag race at the end!! That was fun!
Can you guys do a daily rider on the CBR650R?
I commend Yamaha for offering a sport-ish bike with a tractable twin. Not everyone needs a high-strung, 14,000 rpm four-pot for daily use.
It sure would be neat to see Zack ride and review a genuine OW-02 R7.
By God. High strung. Oof. That's sex time.
Except it has all of the ergonomic drawbacks of a sport bike without the big power reward. The Ninja 650 is a way better choice if going the p-twin route.
Big ups for the jump! Having said that would never consider buying this bike. RIP R6. IL4 all day!
They really should have gone Ninja 650 with this, they'd crushed this niche. But they went only the half way, they took away R6 power and didn't give it the comfort. I bought Ninja 650 just before news about R7 came out, and I was regretting it back then. But after riding the Ninja and watching this video, I don't, Ninja It's so comfortable, I can ride it from dawn till dusk and even longer.
Finally, the review of the bike by the reviewer I've been waiting for!
The cockpit looks super messy and the dash looks super hard to read in bright light. The rest of the bike looks awesome though
"Cockpit" it's not a aircraft nor an enclosed vehicle. Lmao. What is it with you people saying that dumbass shit?
God this is old and no one will read this, but I have to point out that one can fundamentally disagree with what Zach said around the 17:00 mark. Motorcycles are intrinsically emotional purchases, and I think there's too much logic being used to justify certain purchases in this segment of sport bikes. There's never a reason to ride or drive something that does a 10sec quarter mile on a daily basis, or has legit chops at the track. It's just because it's fun. I think we're starting to lose a lot of that. If someone's into riding a screaming 600cc four pot every day, despite the obvious discomfort and impractically of it, God bless em. It certainly could mean there's vanity to the pursuit, but damnit if it isn't just because it's fun.
Great video as always.
Why can't a sport bike that has an upright seating position and gets 50 mpg while costing a fraction the price of a modern car be a logical and emotional purchase?
I love the Daily Rider vids with Zack. Great info and presentation.
I was wondering if the R7's ergos would be good enough for a casual rider, sounds like maybe not. I'm after something with decent ergonomics, some wind protection, that's not 600lbs nor made for someone with a 35" inseam. I regret selling my 2007 FZ6, they don't really make them like that anymore.
It’s a shame the tracer 7 doesn’t make it over to you guys.
@Kattrap Nice bike you've got yourself there! I ended up buying a new model Tracer 7 this year, partly as I found the Tenere to be slightly too tall for my short legs.
@Kattrap The Tenere is a likely candidate for me. I just wish it was shorter. I'm just not as flexible as I was back when I rode a 1990 kick start DR650. Swinging a leg over is a chore. Great bike otherwise though.
Consider Ninja 650 or CBR650R. I personally picked Ninja 650 and not regretting it. I am comfortable riding it for the whole day and all that plastic and OEM taller wind screen give good wind protection, It's a bliss riding it after riding a naked bike. Also because of different engine composition, they managed to make bike lower and it should be comfortable for you.
@@grumpy_cat1337 Good advice. Thanks for the insight. Спасибо
As a T7 owner how can you NOT love the CP2 engine? Cool bike.
Does it make sense, I'd say yes, if u want to learn on a motorcycle with less cc's/better mileage, but u want to learn on a platform that will prepare you for the kind of stance that you'll get for when u upgrade to a bigger bike, I'd say it's perfect for that, it's a better bike to learn with than any 300cc and ninja 650 if u plan to upgrade
The question is always in the context of a daily rider and at i think your answer begs the follow up of does an uncomfortable bike with a bigger engine make sense as a daily rider and if that is a no, then neither is the R7
This bike is designed for riders to grow up from 250- 400cc bikes. Filling the gap between beginner bike and super sport. Not for daily, or experienced rider but for those like to take go fast in a steady pace. If you already riding same or bigger bike or believe you can handle super sport than clearly it is not for you.
From industry/business perspective it make perfect sense. The sales number does not lie - R7 is selling like hot cake.
Can you guys add in rolling hill estate palos verde drive east doing a review? It's right off 710 and 110. Not too long but good amount of small twisties and view of rolling hills showing bike's leaning potential.
You keep finding ways to convince me to go for the Aprilia
Great review as always! Nice looking motorcycle!
I got to ride the R7 at Sonoma last month, and I rode an RS660 at Buttonwillow earlier this year. The agree 100% the bike doesn’t quite make sense. The only way I’d consider this over the Aprilia is reliability. For a street bike the Aprilia is just more desirable. For a track bike I think they’re both too expensive :P