@@redtarget5275 well, in my knowledge you get an achievement for finishing the mission without using it once... So, I suppose penalty is lack of achievement?
In my opinion,trigger being pinned for killing harling is quite justifiable, the osean needs someone to blame in all those chaos. Additionally the people invovled in the mission are pretty much angry and frustrated that they failed this very important mission. Reasoning with them is no question since everyone is acting upon emotion. So you being acquited will hit there morale.
Uh, blame drones? I mean, it was established drones were hacked by Erusea.. and blaming Erusea for political assasination would probably make Osean more... rightgeous..?
@@StrvB-ng8kb to be fair by this point everyone is against osea already so they could just assume osea is lying also trigger was the closest and the f 18 drone’s mission was to kill harling and make it look like another osean pilot did it so to everyone else it could definitely look as though it was trigger who shot the missile
Great review! Also, one more foreshadow that Belka was behind everything: In Mission 2, an Erusean officer complains about the instruction manual being written by some “war merchants” in an unknown language. Belka has been known to have used the German languages, particularly in some squadrons in Ace Combat 0, and that they were the pioneers behind the drone tech, particularly ZOE.
25:26 This is gonna be weird, but I need to put this comment somewhere before my mind forgets. I might be wrong, but I always had the thought that Osea High Command knew Trigger didn't off Harling to begin with, and instead reassigned him to 444 for mission 6-9 because of his experience with drones. So they made him a deal. Help with this penal unit and you still get to fly. The "court martial" was a formality. Trigger already agreed with immediate compliance; not out of fear or insistence for his innocence, but because he already knew he was innocent and just wanted to fly. He knew the way higher-ups work. The reason I thought of for that is a little far-fetched, but they may have seen his disposition (possibly a calm personality and not a raving hothead) and love in flying at the time as something to be considered. To Osean High Command, Trigger's still loyal. So they thought, "Let's use that." So they put him in the 444, knew he wouldn't talk (mainly because he doesn't talk much, but also why would he, he stays in the air), and crossed their fingers. Everyone kept calling Trigger "murderer", but I don't think Trigger was bothered. He got to fly, and that's all that mattered to him. Edit: Either that, or Osea was hit with the idiot beam again lol
I still remember when I saw the Drag Racer intro for the first time, before the release of AC7. Played the series since AC3, but ended on Zero since I didn't had PSP or Xbox. And when I saw this intro, when Avril was taking off, familiar Keiki Kobayashi style melody slowly kicked in, she takes off and goes higher and higher, just like the music did, and It was the first time I cried by seeing a game trailer. *We're finally back in the skies.*
@@davidsquire1278 Wow you're so manly, unike me a baby that still manages to feel something, get excited about things, you have to hear often how masculine you are for not sheding a single tear in your life, not even when you stub your toe!
Actually this is my first ac game. The first time i played 444 i failed a few times on my first playthrough, later i realized i can rush the bombers like mission 1 so im used to the funny 444 mission failed script hahahha Excellent vid. Inust finished your ac7 review and now i cant wait for part 2.
Neat! I've always wondered how AC7 was seen as someone's first Ace Combat game. How was it for you overall as your first one? Ah, gotcha lol. At least there's some catharsis hearing Bandog upset each time :P Glad to hear that you liked it!
@@ThunderousFolf i had to "git gud" but practice makes perfect afterall there are some missions that i still despise like second half of pipeline destruction, second half of mission20, yinshi valley of course. And even operation werewolf. Im still playing casually from time to time while i beat other games on my backlog like bluenreflection second light, ac4 black flag, and upcoming would be either bloodborne or doom eternal.
I found this level to be almost to easy if you pick a mid level aircraft (like a SU-35) and use sp weapon long range high velocity missiles. Put extra speed and homing on them during mission set up for parts and it’s cake from there. Side note, don’t bother with long range lock on parts as these missile already lock on pretty far out.
it was my first, honestly shocked me when i looked more into the lore (AC3, AC0) honestly very interesting for if we ever get an AC8 and where/when it'll be set.
@@ThunderousFolfc7 was my first. I started with novice controls on the beginner easy (below easy) and have been playing through the campaign one playthrough at a time. I switched to "expert" controls, got a Nintendo switch pro controller, and started on regular easy. I'm on my 4th playthrough on the fleet destruction mission on Hard. Trying to unlock all the planes and parts and the single player achievements before dipping into multi-player. I imagine if I can't S rank all the missions on Ace difficulty that multi-player will just be an exercise in frustration and getting my shit pushed in repeatedly by AC veterans with HOTAS and PSM everywhere. Stuff like S ranking on Ace, doing a gun run, a no damage run, a warthog run etc are all interesting and appealing. I've got an entry level HOTAS now and I'm looking into rudder pedals to go with it. Also got Project Wingman and Star Wars Squadrons. I want to fly fast and kick ass.
so thats the big project you mentioned earlier. thank you, i was actually searching for just this and was surprised no one did it yet. but you know you opened pandora's box, now you'r expected tomake a similar vid for AC 2,3,4,5,6 and X. good luck
I had a hunch I'd be opening up pandora's box with this video lol. In due time I plan on doing this kind of video with the other Ace Combat games, for sure! For as painful as it was at times to work on this video (*glances to my editing software*), it also feels so good to see this project completed and posted! Makes me imagine how good it will feel to complete this kind of video for the other Ace Combat games too.
@@mrandrossguy9871 I plan to do an Everything Great About video for those too. A nice way to see how the series started and all. It's gonna be a loooooong while before I get to those games though.
Flying through it and catching the SAMs off guard is always so fun to me. Feels like something that'd make Pops proud if he was still alive in the game.
I didn't see it, but in the first opening cutscene, it shows a quick shot of a propeller engine. A really big one, and if I'm right, it's the EXACT same one put in the B-28 Super Fortress... or... the A-1 Skyraider. the_fat_electrician has a video on the A-1 skyraider. I feel like if they managed to get prop planes into Ace Combat, that it should be featured. The A-1 went up against MiG-17s and WON. That plane was Old Age And Treachery: The Airplane.
I liked transfer orders for the freedom to go where you wanted and kill the sam sites, usually escort missions on videogames allow you to be near the target. Oh and for me the least mission i liked was pieline destructions second half as well as going inside space elevator on mission 20.
In that aspect, I see what you mean. I'm also familiar with a game that has an escort mission or objective punishing you or outright giving you a mission fail if you stray too far. I still feel like it could have been done a little better, more so for the first time players. If you have the SAM site positions memorized, then it isn't as much of an issue. I'm not too fond of the sand storm in the second half of Pipeline Destruction either. I've also heard that's a common part of the campaign that has bugged a lot of people. Fun fact about the Space Elevator tunnel run, the first time I completed the campaign, I crashed a good number of times before nailing it down. I wasn't expecting the tunnel doors to be closing, so I would hastily fly to a different tunnel in an awkward angle which would cause me to crash the first few times I tried that part out. Let's just say it almost caused me to throw the controller to the ground lol
Favorite level is Farbanti for me. It’s a sandbox of air/sea/ground attacks you can choose to focus on either 3 more or less. Then the final battle in this mission is great.
I defeated Mihaly with the F-15C faster than i did with the X-02 somehow. I was like "COME BACK HERE MIHALY! IM NOT DONE WITH YOU!" And I really felt like I was in the Eagle chasing him down esp when Bandog said *"Get in with that monster Spare 15! Or we're gonna lose more friendlies!"*
I'd add one more win - "444" soundtrack is perfectly synched to narration of the mission. It's not adaptive music, it's the entire music piece is written to be timed perfectly with the in mission timer along with dialogues, to change tone from crazy acoustic guitar solo, to euphoric strings at just the moment your weapons get unlocked. Same went for "Faceless Soldier" during Spare squadron making formation for the first time, and some other missions.
I knew about the 444 mission fail dialog, I didn't know about the crash line. That's hilarious All of the Spare Squadron missions are just so good. The team has character, the missions are fun and challenging, and Bandog is really well written.
Another interesting point about the cutscene where Harling gets shot down: the drone you were presumably aiming at gets shot down on screen, confirming that you didn’t miss
I'm really looking forward for the day when project aces releases an ace combat 3 remaster with the Japanese storyline or something along those lines. I loved the futuristic/dystopian setting AC3 had. Going to the stratosphere, space (twice, and firing energy weapons), geofront and then the electrosphere for the first time where unique experiences that are planted into my memory.
I'm way late to the discussion here but Osea's stupid criminal system could match up with real life. Trigger was just the donkey the tail got pinned on because the military would rather blame someone else than admit failure.
17:25 I'm still having nightmares because of that (Yeah Yeah I know I know I know I know.....) Oh and Uh... your video was great, however the joke was respectfully sour and funny in the same time all thanks to WomanSlayer69 for sponsoring my comment lol😂😂😂😂😂
Oh, so Liberty and Justice are the two arsenal birds... I thought it was a directive... Since Erusia claims to be fighting to free the continent from Osea... The "Liberty" directive aims to archeive victory at all cost (including Harling's murder). "Justice" would be the paragon approach. Yeah, that's far fetched. I dunno what made me think that. However... The frontCam of the F22 would have confirmed that Trigger shot down the president indeed ! His IFF was hacked. The f18 flying past you is just a wingman who witnessed the shot. Still, Trigger must have had a bad lawyer anyway... Can a pilot manually override his IFF to lock on a friendly ?... Well Pixy managed that when he shot Cypher after the nukes. But that's far less likely than a malfunction.
So did I until recently before I learned the names of both Arsenal birds. I remember thinking it was weird that they just gave a quick nod to their strategic AI deciding the fate of the war basically. I always figured when they said strategic AI decided “liberty”it meant that Erusia went the route of deciding that freedom of conquest and control of the space elevator and its resource capacities was the “smarter” decision over preventing unjust actions to preserve continental peace, that they would implement actions that may seem unjust, actions such as killing president Harding before letting OSEA get him back, like the ends justify the means. I think most of us were in the same thought line as you on our initial play through.
@@nathanstice8456 nice to hear that !😄 Thing is, you don't need an IA to decide which bird is the closest to intervene. Besides it's uav's got there within minutes.
A great video, really enjoyed it, but just one issue - I know when it comes to discussing the soundtrack in the community, all the praise goes to Keiki Kobayashi and it may seem like he's the sole composer responsible for these games, but there are others, and some songs thet got wins in this video were credited incorrectly: Two-Pronged strategy and Tail Man by Hiroshi Okubo 444 by Mitsuhiro Kitadani Long Day and Pipeline Destruction by Junichi Nakatsuru For future reference, this info can be found on soundtracks' pages on Ace Combat wiki Besides that, nice work, I liked the humor and agreed with most of the points. Keep up the good work!
When I was playing the rescue Harling mission for the first time, I wasn't paying much attention when I shot the missile at the last drone. and when the cut scene played, I was genuinely in doubt whether it was me who killed Harling
I think in reality Trigger could still be court martialed. Truth often doesn't matter. The beloved president of Osean citizens has been killed, and they have to blame someone. Since Trigger got accused first, I'm sure media did the rest. So what mattered more was to punish trigger just to set an example.
A nice thing I've noticed with the music wins is the playing of the song afterwards, which I don't actually see in many of these "everything wrong/great with ___"
the rowdy and honest spare squadron pilots are the best. Kinda makes me wish instead of joining strider we became one of the rebel spare squad pilots, or joined up with Erusea like you said. Maybe combine the two and have Erusea turn Spare Squadron into a real Squadron, there still the "suicide squad" if you would, but now there taking on dangerous missions to make sue there new Allies, the Eruseans, have as few losses as possible, and unlike when they were a Penal unite, they get treated fairly and with respect.
25:51 easy way to fix it. Make it trigger that did kill him instead of a drone by having the IFF be spoofed. A lot harder to argue you didn’t kill harling if the camera shows clearly you did
You misses one win. During Long Day mission, if you fly into the tunnel there's a chance that Bandog thinks that you crash and die and he will call you a fool only to be told by other Spare squadron pilot that you're flying through the tunnel
9:25 I think it was a missed opportunity to give Erusea allies here. The Northern half of Usea historically is mistrustful of Osea and I could see them work with their historic ally against what they see as Osean imperialism. Would help explain their success too. Even Osea would struggle against half of Usea against them.
uhhh when High Roller kicks the bucket Tabloid will attempt to glue himself close to your plane... I'm not sure how he can keep up in say if you use... something liek the darkstar... but the THOUGHT COUNTS HE CAN
Like imagine if you could have one campaign where it’s you and spare kicking ass for Osea and another where you join up with Sol and Mihay? I could even see it being a situation where Mihay and Dr Schroeder offer you freedom to come with them during a mission and have you betray your allies
31:25 say what you will, I loved all of AC4's missions, minus Safe Return where you have to shoot down tiny balloons with no radar, just a hassle with a very short fight at the end and is the least fun in my opinion. But missions like Tango Line, Whiskey Corridor are some of my favorite missions from that game just cause of how much stuff you get to blow up and Tango Line is even better because of the feeling you get when AWACS tells you that you completely destroyed a specific part of Istas Fortress and that nothing is left for you to destroy save for some towers and small turrets.
11:50 the arsenal birds alone are a far better justification for war when you think about it. Imagine you are say, the US during the Cold War and Russia puts super weapons right next to- OH WAIT!
11:10 don't you take off from one at the start of the mission where you "kill" Harling? At least when you take the navy plane (ie. F14, F/A18) And I always thought Kestrel 2 is the one you take off from at the last mission
Honestly, taking away a point on Osea's asinine legal system shouldn't be done. Considering that Osea is the Strangereal parody of the USA... I think its pretty accurate regarding the legal system...
Mihai taking out brownie like that made me lose any respect and sympathy i wouldve probably had for him. Very dishonorable and cowardly. Didnt seem badass just a B move.
Every thing your loving about this game is basically what's wrong with it imo It's kinda sad that what ever AceCombat one started with is their Favorite blindly ? But one can learn with what's great about all other titles which I'm trying to learn ; and I know that goes against what I just said personally about this particular title but it is the Latest title which has been overrated since the beginning only highest sold because of the hype and targeted demographic ?
I wouldn't say that everyone's first Ace Combat game is their favorite. They may be able to look over some of the issues more with that game having a special place in their heart since it's the game that got them introduced to the series, but I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed occurrence for people to blindly say their first AC game is their favorite. Hype definitely had a role in the game's success given that AC7 was a new numbered title in the series in such a long time, but I think another part of it has to do with the gameplay being so smooth and the other aspects of the game like the cutscenes, music, etc., being excellently well done. Like I said in my reply to the other comment you left on this video, the game was in development hell because Project Aces really wanted to get this game right, having started over on this project multiple times before finally being satisfied with what we have now.
@@ThunderousFolf Yes I have read the Tweet thank you, but still it stinks how much limited resources they had with this one Or how much they allow the mods to compensate for the lack of Raw complete content and features Which is a whole other story imo
@@ThunderousFolf I did not look at it that way that not everyone's first AceCombat is there absolute fav though Nostalgia is a hell of a drug and that can be a problem? Thanks for pointing that out though
@@mrandrossguy9871 Ooohhh, I think I see what you're saying now. You're saying that whichever Ace Combat game is the first that really appeals to someone, even if it is not their first one they have ever played, tends to get the benefit of the doubt a lot through nostalgia? I can see what you mean since people can more easily look over some bad aspects of a title if they're particularly fond of it, but I don't think that erases anyone's ability to point out flaws if they see it. Like if someone re-visits an older game and they remember bad aspects about it, I feel that nostalgia can more so give them more patience rather than ignore those bad aspects. That person experiencing nostalgia can still look at a bad mechanic in a game and say "That mechanic is bad", but nostalgia may allow that person to have a higher level of patience or tolerance, or the player may otherwise not be bothered by something as much. That all being said, I do know that sometimes people can let nostalgia get the better of them in something like a review where they may not address a bad aspect or two about it as much for instance.
@@mrandrossguy9871 I agree with that. It stinks that the game was put into off-shore development for so long. I do wish it was considered as a main project to be worked on from the start, and that would have allowed for more resources to be distributed to that game. That being said, I'm still personally happy with what we got. And Project Aces has been doing a great job with the post launch content they've been delivering to the game. Part of me does think every now and then how the game would have turned out if it wasn't given the off-shore development treatment for so long though, I will admit.
3 things i hate about Ace Combat 7: 1: Wheater Effects 2: Allied AI is dumb AF... not even giving half or a quarter of points if they manage to destroy a target... 3: The worst offender... Enemie AI Missiles are litteral Long Range QAAM...
Ace04 my first Ace Combat and Ace7 is as disappointing as Assault Horizon and evening Assault Horizon has more to give What about everything great with Ace Combat General ? I just don't see the enjoyment of this limited entry they've had 3 more than 3 years in development and still it was rushed ?
Idk how you find AC7 as disappointing as AH tbh. Assault Horizon was the worst. Awful level design. You are forced to use DFM to kill enemy Aces. Scripted Events. Generic USA Good, Russia Bad Story. Seriously the end has a press triangle or Y to Fistbump and you find Ace Combat 7 disappointing? And It really was in a development hell. You can find tons of cut content from the game and It was almost canceled at one point. You should be glad this game sold really well. We wouldn’t have another Ace Combat.
@@motorsporttj1689 way I see it they should have gave this Entry All they had since all the Hype they were putting out, so Yeah all or nothing, but they had such Trouble trying to please every one that they pleased only the Gullible ?
I'm curious, what about AC7 makes you say that it's as disappointing as Assault Horizon to you? A video talking about everything great about Ace Combat in general could be good! If I did a video like that though, it would follow the usual video essay format that I normally do rather than the CinemaWins parody like in this video. Like Motorsport TJ said, AC7 was in development hell. To keep it a long story short, Project Aces really wanted to get this game right since it would have high expectations being a new numbered title in so long. There were periods where they would start up the project only to start all over again because the team lost their vision with that particular version of the game, and they didn't want to continue with something they didn't have full confidence with. I recommend reading this twitter thread if you haven't done so, where this person translated Kazutoki Kono's tweets regarding the development of the game. It gives a better insight as to the development hell the game went through: twitter.com/Task_Force23/status/1103448806216093696?s=20&t=OQPRhmrQNnoHTdCrBQO47w
Something small you missed is the neat detail in Long Day in the tunnel the Gripens are already there and you can destroy them before they even take off to reenforce
Lol, in Long Day, I didn’t even know there was a supply line you could actually use. I thought bandog said “But this is NOT for you guys”…
With some of the later game and DLC planes the return line is pointless because they have weapons that have massive areas of effect
Same. I thought there would be a penalty for using the resupply. Don't think I've ever used it.
@@redtarget5275 well, in my knowledge you get an achievement for finishing the mission without using it once... So, I suppose penalty is lack of achievement?
laughs in ADMM with ammo mods
In my opinion,trigger being pinned for killing harling is quite justifiable, the osean needs someone to blame in all those chaos. Additionally the people invovled in the mission are pretty much angry and frustrated that they failed this very important mission. Reasoning with them is no question since everyone is acting upon emotion. So you being acquited will hit there morale.
Uh, blame drones? I mean, it was established drones were hacked by Erusea.. and blaming Erusea for political assasination would probably make Osean more... rightgeous..?
@@StrvB-ng8kb to be fair by this point everyone is against osea already so they could just assume osea is lying also trigger was the closest and the f 18 drone’s mission was to kill harling and make it look like another osean pilot did it so to everyone else it could definitely look as though it was trigger who shot the missile
Everyone is so fed up that even Yukes, their enemies since the war... 13 years ago, came to their help right as the war ended.
The thing is, military jets are built with a camera on the nose, if they looked at that, it's likely that Trigger would be declared innocent.
Laughed out loud at “forgot he was an Ace Combat protagonist and therefore can’t speak” 😂🤣🤣
Great review!
Also, one more foreshadow that Belka was behind everything: In Mission 2, an Erusean officer complains about the instruction manual being written by some “war merchants” in an unknown language. Belka has been known to have used the German languages, particularly in some squadrons in Ace Combat 0, and that they were the pioneers behind the drone tech, particularly ZOE.
The scene where Arsenal bird appears from the cloud and a bunch of flamingos flies by is a guaranteed reference to Mobile Suit Gundam.
Flamingoes are extremophiles so its also sort of thematic way of saying "This bird doesnt die easily"
25:26 This is gonna be weird, but I need to put this comment somewhere before my mind forgets.
I might be wrong, but I always had the thought that Osea High Command knew Trigger didn't off Harling to begin with, and instead reassigned him to 444 for mission 6-9 because of his experience with drones. So they made him a deal. Help with this penal unit and you still get to fly.
The "court martial" was a formality. Trigger already agreed with immediate compliance; not out of fear or insistence for his innocence, but because he already knew he was innocent and just wanted to fly. He knew the way higher-ups work.
The reason I thought of for that is a little far-fetched, but they may have seen his disposition (possibly a calm personality and not a raving hothead) and love in flying at the time as something to be considered.
To Osean High Command, Trigger's still loyal. So they thought, "Let's use that."
So they put him in the 444, knew he wouldn't talk (mainly because he doesn't talk much, but also why would he, he stays in the air), and crossed their fingers.
Everyone kept calling Trigger "murderer", but I don't think Trigger was bothered.
He got to fly, and that's all that mattered to him.
Edit: Either that, or Osea was hit with the idiot beam again lol
I still remember when I saw the Drag Racer intro for the first time, before the release of AC7. Played the series since AC3, but ended on Zero since I didn't had PSP or Xbox. And when I saw this intro, when Avril was taking off, familiar Keiki Kobayashi style melody slowly kicked in, she takes off and goes higher and higher, just like the music did, and It was the first time I cried by seeing a game trailer.
*We're finally back in the skies.*
You fucking cried ? Hahahaha my God y'all are some dramatic babies
@@davidsquire1278 Oh look at you, such a manly man, want me to give you a head to approve your masculinity?
@@davidsquire1278 Wow you're so manly, unike me a baby that still manages to feel something, get excited about things, you have to hear often how masculine you are for not sheding a single tear in your life, not even when you stub your toe!
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AWACS Sky Keeper: ''Golem 2 status report''
Brownie: *grunting* // *getting* *hurt*
AWACS Sky Keeper: ''Just talk to me ''
Goddamn Sky Keeper doesn't know how to chill 🤔🤔🤔
+1 for an actual dog fight script scene between Brownie and Mihaly and not just audio story off the distance.
Actually this is my first ac game.
The first time i played 444 i failed a few times on my first playthrough, later i realized i can rush the bombers like mission 1 so im used to the funny 444 mission failed script hahahha
Excellent vid. Inust finished your ac7 review and now i cant wait for part 2.
Neat! I've always wondered how AC7 was seen as someone's first Ace Combat game. How was it for you overall as your first one?
Ah, gotcha lol. At least there's some catharsis hearing Bandog upset each time :P
Glad to hear that you liked it!
@@ThunderousFolf i had to "git gud" but practice makes perfect afterall there are some missions that i still despise like second half of pipeline destruction, second half of mission20, yinshi valley of course. And even operation werewolf.
Im still playing casually from time to time while i beat other games on my backlog like bluenreflection second light, ac4 black flag, and upcoming would be either bloodborne or doom eternal.
I found this level to be almost to easy if you pick a mid level aircraft (like a SU-35) and use sp weapon long range high velocity missiles. Put extra speed and homing on them during mission set up for parts and it’s cake from there. Side note, don’t bother with long range lock on parts as these missile already lock on pretty far out.
it was my first, honestly shocked me when i looked more into the lore (AC3, AC0) honestly very interesting for if we ever get an AC8 and where/when it'll be set.
@@ThunderousFolfc7 was my first. I started with novice controls on the beginner easy (below easy) and have been playing through the campaign one playthrough at a time. I switched to "expert" controls, got a Nintendo switch pro controller, and started on regular easy.
I'm on my 4th playthrough on the fleet destruction mission on Hard. Trying to unlock all the planes and parts and the single player achievements before dipping into multi-player. I imagine if I can't S rank all the missions on Ace difficulty that multi-player will just be an exercise in frustration and getting my shit pushed in repeatedly by AC veterans with HOTAS and PSM everywhere.
Stuff like S ranking on Ace, doing a gun run, a no damage run, a warthog run etc are all interesting and appealing.
I've got an entry level HOTAS now and I'm looking into rudder pedals to go with it.
Also got Project Wingman and Star Wars Squadrons. I want to fly fast and kick ass.
so thats the big project you mentioned earlier. thank you, i was actually searching for just this and was surprised no one did it yet. but you know you opened pandora's box, now you'r expected tomake a similar vid for AC 2,3,4,5,6 and X. good luck
I had a hunch I'd be opening up pandora's box with this video lol. In due time I plan on doing this kind of video with the other Ace Combat games, for sure! For as painful as it was at times to work on this video (*glances to my editing software*), it also feels so good to see this project completed and posted! Makes me imagine how good it will feel to complete this kind of video for the other Ace Combat games too.
What about Air Combat and Air Combat 22 ?
@@mrandrossguy9871 I plan to do an Everything Great About video for those too. A nice way to see how the series started and all. It's gonna be a loooooong while before I get to those games though.
@@mrandrossguy9871 you make a compelling case my friend. He needs to do those as well. But not assault horizen, that one needs a sin counter
ADFX drone in Transfer Orders has the Z.O.E. Marking on it. It's a callback to another Ace combat game, I forgot which one.
A fun thing on Long Day is that there’s a tunnel you can fly through and you get unique dialogue for doing it.
Flying through it and catching the SAMs off guard is always so fun to me. Feels like something that'd make Pops proud if he was still alive in the game.
That's one of my favorite things to do in the whole ace combat 7
No way where?!
I didn't see it, but in the first opening cutscene, it shows a quick shot of a propeller engine. A really big one, and if I'm right, it's the EXACT same one put in the B-28 Super Fortress... or... the A-1 Skyraider. the_fat_electrician has a video on the A-1 skyraider. I feel like if they managed to get prop planes into Ace Combat, that it should be featured. The A-1 went up against MiG-17s and WON. That plane was Old Age And Treachery: The Airplane.
I liked transfer orders for the freedom to go where you wanted and kill the sam sites, usually escort missions on videogames allow you to be near the target.
Oh and for me the least mission i liked was pieline destructions second half as well as going inside space elevator on mission 20.
In that aspect, I see what you mean. I'm also familiar with a game that has an escort mission or objective punishing you or outright giving you a mission fail if you stray too far. I still feel like it could have been done a little better, more so for the first time players. If you have the SAM site positions memorized, then it isn't as much of an issue.
I'm not too fond of the sand storm in the second half of Pipeline Destruction either. I've also heard that's a common part of the campaign that has bugged a lot of people. Fun fact about the Space Elevator tunnel run, the first time I completed the campaign, I crashed a good number of times before nailing it down. I wasn't expecting the tunnel doors to be closing, so I would hastily fly to a different tunnel in an awkward angle which would cause me to crash the first few times I tried that part out. Let's just say it almost caused me to throw the controller to the ground lol
Favorite level is Farbanti for me. It’s a sandbox of air/sea/ground attacks you can choose to focus on either 3 more or less. Then the final battle in this mission is great.
I defeated Mihaly with the F-15C faster than i did with the X-02 somehow. I was like "COME BACK HERE MIHALY! IM NOT DONE WITH YOU!" And I really felt like I was in the Eagle chasing him down esp when Bandog said *"Get in with that monster Spare 15! Or we're gonna lose more friendlies!"*
Okay hear me out:pixy is tabloid father
1: both have something against borders and countries
2: they both belkan
3: both have F/A 16
F-15 sorry
Tabloid flies a Mirage 2000-5 not a Falcon.
THE FUCKING PIXY "Its time" GOT ME SO FUCKING GOOD I DID NOT SEE THAT COMING.
I'd add one more win - "444" soundtrack is perfectly synched to narration of the mission. It's not adaptive music, it's the entire music piece is written to be timed perfectly with the in mission timer along with dialogues, to change tone from crazy acoustic guitar solo, to euphoric strings at just the moment your weapons get unlocked. Same went for "Faceless Soldier" during Spare squadron making formation for the first time, and some other missions.
I knew about the 444 mission fail dialog, I didn't know about the crash line. That's hilarious
All of the Spare Squadron missions are just so good. The team has character, the missions are fun and challenging, and Bandog is really well written.
4:20 the way she looks around to make sure nothing goes wrong is a good touch
Another interesting point about the cutscene where Harling gets shot down: the drone you were presumably aiming at gets shot down on screen, confirming that you didn’t miss
I'm really looking forward for the day when project aces releases an ace combat 3 remaster with the Japanese storyline or something along those lines. I loved the futuristic/dystopian setting AC3 had. Going to the stratosphere, space (twice, and firing energy weapons), geofront and then the electrosphere for the first time where unique experiences that are planted into my memory.
I'm way late to the discussion here but Osea's stupid criminal system could match up with real life. Trigger was just the donkey the tail got pinned on because the military would rather blame someone else than admit failure.
23:00 that is basically the plot of ace combat 3, play it
17:25 I'm still having nightmares because of that (Yeah Yeah I know I know I know I know.....)
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20:10 Ace Combat 3
I’m not sure if you noticed, but in Rescue, the person piloting MG1 is Swordsman, your number 3 in the latter half of AC5
Oh, so Liberty and Justice are the two arsenal birds...
I thought it was a directive... Since Erusia claims to be fighting to free the continent from Osea... The "Liberty" directive aims to archeive victory at all cost (including Harling's murder). "Justice" would be the paragon approach.
Yeah, that's far fetched. I dunno what made me think that.
However... The frontCam of the F22 would have confirmed that Trigger shot down the president indeed ! His IFF was hacked. The f18 flying past you is just a wingman who witnessed the shot. Still, Trigger must have had a bad lawyer anyway... Can a pilot manually override his IFF to lock on a friendly ?... Well Pixy managed that when he shot Cypher after the nukes. But that's far less likely than a malfunction.
So did I until recently before I learned the names of both Arsenal birds. I remember thinking it was weird that they just gave a quick nod to their strategic AI deciding the fate of the war basically. I always figured when they said strategic AI decided “liberty”it meant that Erusia went the route of deciding that freedom of conquest and control of the space elevator and its resource capacities was the “smarter” decision over preventing unjust actions to preserve continental peace, that they would implement actions that may seem unjust, actions such as killing president Harding before letting OSEA get him back, like the ends justify the means. I think most of us were in the same thought line as you on our initial play through.
@@nathanstice8456 nice to hear that !😄
Thing is, you don't need an IA to decide which bird is the closest to intervene. Besides it's uav's got there within minutes.
A great video, really enjoyed it, but just one issue - I know when it comes to discussing the soundtrack in the community, all the praise goes to Keiki Kobayashi and it may seem like he's the sole composer responsible for these games, but there are others, and some songs thet got wins in this video were credited incorrectly:
Two-Pronged strategy and Tail Man by Hiroshi Okubo
444 by Mitsuhiro Kitadani
Long Day and Pipeline Destruction by Junichi Nakatsuru
For future reference, this info can be found on soundtracks' pages on Ace Combat wiki
Besides that, nice work, I liked the humor and agreed with most of the points. Keep up the good work!
25:21 also, triggers lawyer was awful. How did I get marshaled for a missile shot when I was in a strike wyvern firing an electro magnetic launcher???
Who the fuck is this new guy
Rewatching the cutscenes from AC7 really makes me want AC4 and AC5 remastered
27:54 That's a big chungus ''YEAH!" 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
11:34 oooo oooo, Well, I believed that the Grumman YF-23 was going to be put into service, But My heart broke the second I heard it never happened
When I was playing the rescue Harling mission for the first time, I wasn't paying much attention when I shot the missile at the last drone. and when the cut scene played, I was genuinely in doubt whether it was me who killed Harling
I think in reality Trigger could still be court martialed. Truth often doesn't matter. The beloved president of Osean citizens has been killed, and they have to blame someone. Since Trigger got accused first, I'm sure media did the rest. So what mattered more was to punish trigger just to set an example.
on my first ever playthrough i looked up "how to save rpesident harling AC7" thinking there were multiple endings to that mission
Earned a sub immediately.
i was re-watching this while playing ac and did a psm and dodged at least 8 missiles as the daredevil theme kicked in
A nice thing I've noticed with the music wins is the playing of the song afterwards, which I don't actually see in many of these "everything wrong/great with ___"
However, no soundtrack win for the first Mihaly fight???
the rowdy and honest spare squadron pilots are the best. Kinda makes me wish instead of joining strider we became one of the rebel spare squad pilots, or joined up with Erusea like you said. Maybe combine the two and have Erusea turn Spare Squadron into a real Squadron, there still the "suicide squad" if you would, but now there taking on dangerous missions to make sue there new Allies, the Eruseans, have as few losses as possible, and unlike when they were a Penal unite, they get treated fairly and with respect.
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25:51 easy way to fix it. Make it trigger that did kill him instead of a drone by having the IFF be spoofed. A lot harder to argue you didn’t kill harling if the camera shows clearly you did
I actually did for The Unsung War when I had a afternoon to kill.
the combat chatter of sea goblin was a nod to megalith in AC4
You misses one win. During Long Day mission, if you fly into the tunnel there's a chance that Bandog thinks that you crash and die and he will call you a fool only to be told by other Spare squadron pilot that you're flying through the tunnel
9:25 I think it was a missed opportunity to give Erusea allies here. The Northern half of Usea historically is mistrustful of Osea and I could see them work with their historic ally against what they see as Osean imperialism. Would help explain their success too. Even Osea would struggle against half of Usea against them.
uhhh when High Roller kicks the bucket Tabloid will attempt to glue himself close to your plane... I'm not sure how he can keep up in say if you use... something liek the darkstar... but the THOUGHT COUNTS HE CAN
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Should’ve had an ace combat 3 style story split here in my opinion. One where you stick with Osea and one where you Defect
Like imagine if you could have one campaign where it’s you and spare kicking ass for Osea and another where you join up with Sol and Mihay?
I could even see it being a situation where Mihay and Dr Schroeder offer you freedom to come with them during a mission and have you betray your allies
31:25 say what you will, I loved all of AC4's missions, minus Safe Return where you have to shoot down tiny balloons with no radar, just a hassle with a very short fight at the end and is the least fun in my opinion. But missions like Tango Line, Whiskey Corridor are some of my favorite missions from that game just cause of how much stuff you get to blow up and Tango Line is even better because of the feeling you get when AWACS tells you that you completely destroyed a specific part of Istas Fortress and that nothing is left for you to destroy save for some towers and small turrets.
Bad opening of review, but in a glimpse it gets amazing
11:50 the arsenal birds alone are a far better justification for war when you think about it. Imagine you are say, the US during the Cold War and Russia puts super weapons right next to- OH WAIT!
Kinda surprised you didn't give out a music win for Alicorn and/or Hero of Comberth Harbour, but that could just be me.
How am I not seeing this video til a year after???????
The way i interpreted trigger being court martialed was more Belkan nans.
I got extremely upset watching this video and seeing Keiki Kobayashi get credit for tracks he didn't even compose.
yall know nothin about that doddle diddler I aint talking about diddy im prospecting
Could you please do videos like this about the other Ace Combat games (4, 0, 5, etc.)? Maybe Project Wingman?
Literally one thing great about ass7.
1) it ok’d for more BETTER Ace combats 🤷♂️ Hopefully 🤞
35:45 me: lol nervously😅 right I didn't stay on top of him like stink on garbage.
11:10 don't you take off from one at the start of the mission where you "kill" Harling?
At least when you take the navy plane (ie. F14, F/A18)
And I always thought Kestrel 2 is the one you take off from at the last mission
Nope
Danke!
Honestly, taking away a point on Osea's asinine legal system shouldn't be done.
Considering that Osea is the Strangereal parody of the USA... I think its pretty accurate regarding the legal system...
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Mihai taking out brownie like that made me lose any respect and sympathy i wouldve probably had for him. Very dishonorable and cowardly. Didnt seem badass just a B move.
Every thing your loving about this game is basically what's wrong with it imo
It's kinda sad that what ever AceCombat one started with is their Favorite blindly ?
But one can learn with what's great about all other titles which I'm trying to learn ; and I know that goes against what I just said personally about this particular title but it is the Latest title which has been overrated since the beginning only highest sold because of the hype and targeted demographic ?
I wouldn't say that everyone's first Ace Combat game is their favorite. They may be able to look over some of the issues more with that game having a special place in their heart since it's the game that got them introduced to the series, but I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed occurrence for people to blindly say their first AC game is their favorite.
Hype definitely had a role in the game's success given that AC7 was a new numbered title in the series in such a long time, but I think another part of it has to do with the gameplay being so smooth and the other aspects of the game like the cutscenes, music, etc., being excellently well done. Like I said in my reply to the other comment you left on this video, the game was in development hell because Project Aces really wanted to get this game right, having started over on this project multiple times before finally being satisfied with what we have now.
@@ThunderousFolf Yes I have read the Tweet thank you, but still it stinks how much limited resources they had with this one Or how much they allow the mods to compensate for the lack of Raw complete content and features
Which is a whole other story imo
@@ThunderousFolf I did not look at it that way that not everyone's first AceCombat is there absolute fav though Nostalgia is a hell of a drug and that can be a problem?
Thanks for pointing that out though
@@mrandrossguy9871 Ooohhh, I think I see what you're saying now. You're saying that whichever Ace Combat game is the first that really appeals to someone, even if it is not their first one they have ever played, tends to get the benefit of the doubt a lot through nostalgia?
I can see what you mean since people can more easily look over some bad aspects of a title if they're particularly fond of it, but I don't think that erases anyone's ability to point out flaws if they see it. Like if someone re-visits an older game and they remember bad aspects about it, I feel that nostalgia can more so give them more patience rather than ignore those bad aspects. That person experiencing nostalgia can still look at a bad mechanic in a game and say "That mechanic is bad", but nostalgia may allow that person to have a higher level of patience or tolerance, or the player may otherwise not be bothered by something as much.
That all being said, I do know that sometimes people can let nostalgia get the better of them in something like a review where they may not address a bad aspect or two about it as much for instance.
@@mrandrossguy9871 I agree with that. It stinks that the game was put into off-shore development for so long. I do wish it was considered as a main project to be worked on from the start, and that would have allowed for more resources to be distributed to that game. That being said, I'm still personally happy with what we got. And Project Aces has been doing a great job with the post launch content they've been delivering to the game. Part of me does think every now and then how the game would have turned out if it wasn't given the off-shore development treatment for so long though, I will admit.
3 things i hate about Ace Combat 7:
1: Wheater Effects
2: Allied AI is dumb AF... not even giving half or a quarter of points if they manage to destroy a target...
3: The worst offender... Enemie AI Missiles are litteral Long Range QAAM...
R U a furry?
I mean ace combat 7 is okay
Ace04 my first Ace Combat and Ace7 is as disappointing as Assault Horizon and evening Assault Horizon has more to give
What about everything great with Ace Combat General ?
I just don't see the enjoyment of this limited entry they've had 3 more than 3 years in development and still it was rushed ?
Idk how you find AC7 as disappointing as AH tbh. Assault Horizon was the worst. Awful level design. You are forced to use DFM to kill enemy Aces. Scripted Events. Generic USA Good, Russia Bad Story. Seriously the end has a press triangle or Y to Fistbump and you find Ace Combat 7 disappointing? And It really was in a development hell. You can find tons of cut content from the game and It was almost canceled at one point. You should be glad this game sold really well. We wouldn’t have another Ace Combat.
@@motorsporttj1689 way I see it they should have gave this Entry All they had since all the Hype they were putting out, so Yeah all or nothing, but they had such Trouble trying to please every one that they pleased only the Gullible ?
I'm curious, what about AC7 makes you say that it's as disappointing as Assault Horizon to you?
A video talking about everything great about Ace Combat in general could be good! If I did a video like that though, it would follow the usual video essay format that I normally do rather than the CinemaWins parody like in this video.
Like Motorsport TJ said, AC7 was in development hell. To keep it a long story short, Project Aces really wanted to get this game right since it would have high expectations being a new numbered title in so long. There were periods where they would start up the project only to start all over again because the team lost their vision with that particular version of the game, and they didn't want to continue with something they didn't have full confidence with.
I recommend reading this twitter thread if you haven't done so, where this person translated Kazutoki Kono's tweets regarding the development of the game. It gives a better insight as to the development hell the game went through: twitter.com/Task_Force23/status/1103448806216093696?s=20&t=OQPRhmrQNnoHTdCrBQO47w
Something small you missed is the neat detail in Long Day
in the tunnel the Gripens are already there and you can destroy them before they even take off to reenforce
31:25 ok shut up I will not take any tango line slander today
I've let Cinemasins know that you are ripping them off