DEMOLISHING OUR BOAT'S NAV STATION!
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
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One of the major lessons we learned about living in tiny spaces during our time experiencing van life in Europe, is that you need a comfortable place to work. And for Lou, that means a standing desk. After much debate, we realized the best place to create a workstation for him would be where the original Nav Station was on the boat. We needed more storage for our computer/camera gear and decided that this would be the best place to build that.
Building a desk from scratch in a boatyard with minimal tools was definitely a challenge, but David and Lou rose to the occasion. I am so happy with how the final product turned out and I know it's going to be mission-critical for us once we get the boat on the water full time.
Would you have considered taking out the traditional nav station? Do you think our plan to use digital maps is a good one or should we have stuck with paper charts?
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I truly admire your young enthusiam. The nav station looks very good, and you've finished it off to look really good. The way you put it together doesn't bode well in the long run though. OK, I know I'll get complaints that this is another negative comment and I'm prepared to take critism for it, but I do have years and years of experience. So here's my advice for projects for the future: 1) Never, never use steel screws and fasteners. Most of what you used is going to rust. Rust is next to impoossible to clean and remove. Plain or plated steel anything should not be carried onto the boat under any circumstances. When rust bleeds into fiberglass or paint, it's ruined. 2) Use epoxy paint or at least marine grade paint. Varnish, if it isn't formulated for marine use with UV resistant additives won't last a year unless it's buried deeper into the boat. 3) Look for other UA-cam channels to see how it's done. "Sail Life" is a good example. 4) Go sailing. Stop all your projects. You have a lot to learn and you won't get that in the boatyeard. Don't do another project until you have your first year crusing. I'm looking forward to following your progress.
Agree. Should always go sailing first to see what works and what does not. Those drawers are going to go ballistic during a rough passage. The fabric will rip out. You need locking mechanisms. My boat, the drawers are heavy and require lifting upwards to open them.
Not sure if you butted wood against the hull (which is a no no without some material to allow flex and movement - generally if support will be glassed in with spacing without 90 degree corners) otherwise during flexing the hull will stress against it and cause future problems you really do not want to deal with at sea.
Boats and vans are not the same.
I wish you guys the best but please do your homework.
A couple of naive idiots is what they are.THEY know best,but time will show them they dont
@ Is it really neccessary to be THAT rude?
@ No, they're not idiots and it's unfair to characterize them in that way. They should be encouraged to do research before beginning a project, considering the amount of available instructional material. One thing I like about the channel Sail Life is that he's constantly asking advice from his TouTube followers. Other excellent channels are "Project Atticus" and "Sailing Uma". One last thing .. Vans are two dimensional, Boats are violently three dimensional. I think other than your personal relationships, there is little that you can translate from van to boat. One more last thing from a sailor who has lost partial vision in one eye ... don't do anything without wraparound safety glasses. See Amazon Dewalt $10.
@@MerleNicholson In My opinion Mads from Sail Life is in general sparring with his youtube folowers on worked through Ideas. Where he has 2 or 3 good solutions, which are worked throgh and want's an impression for esthetics or for practicality.
WELCOME TO THE SAILING COMMUNITY! ❤
Everyone has an opinion and loves to share (probably a lot like van life), the majority have positive intent (despite the capslock or multiple exclamation points). Nothing hurts more than seeing a fellow sailor learn lessons the hard way! That being said, your learning attitude and commitment to action is just a speck of the mindset you'll need to succeed at sea ❤
Keep going, keep learning! Love from NZ.
always love your videos! would love to see a "get to know" type of video with David since he is now part of this channel
I’m really digging being part of you guy’s boat life journey, it’s going to be so amazing
Agree! I am looking forward to it too.
I can’t wait until we ALL SET SAIL! ❤️⛴
I’ve see a lot of comments saying it will be hard to stand at the desk, maybe get a stool that you can suction to the floor somehow and that store away easily? Maybe that can fix your problem there? I do love that you got so much more storage! You definitely need it! It’s crazy how much bigger this boat is than your van! 😊
One of my favorite parts of your videos (if I had to pick one) is Dana's reaction to things. Her genuine joy is so rare now a days, and I love when you capture it on film. Really excited to see where this journey takes you!
It should be OK. Lots of sailboats don't even have a nav station. Basically they wanted more storage and a standing desk for when at anchor or in a marina, which is where a boat spends 90+%of its time.
Plus, for everyone complaining, the galley has no seat either. Do you say it will be impossible to cook while sailing? No. Just like I can cook a stew while sailing without a seat, they'll be able to look at a chart while sailing without a seat. If it's really pitching, you wedge yourself into a settee with your laptop /chart and do your work.
Oh so you say for 10% of time when sailboats are under sails, safety should be sacrificed lol. I don't take chances when sailing, neither does any serious sailor.
@@HenryA798 I'm saying your safety won't be sacrificed. Read the end of my comment.
@@JakeHolman78 we are talking here about a Bluewater boat. It's of course a safety issue. When sailing you have to be able to know exactly where you are and where you are heading to, under any whether condition with or without electronical equipment. A chart table ensures that you can do that. Do you think or these kids know it better than a yacht designer like Hallberg Rassy or Amel? Never take chances when sailing
@@HenryA798 You can use a chart at the salon table while sitting at the settee. I never even had a nav station and I navigated the Caribbean fine. It'll be fine.
The video is so well edited and produced, and your personalities are so fantastic. Lovely people. It's difficult to see some of the build choices on here, because things like steel fasteners are rookie mistakes that are easily avoidable with just a little research. Usually a group of naysayers are just noise to be ignored -- but in this case listen to the crowd. This build was substandard. A mistake, but then again, what is life without making some mistakes? That's how we learn. Subscribed, and looking forward to all future videos.
Beautiful attention to detail on those drawers and storage space! I love how much care you give to every detail. This boat loves you guys!!
Just got tuned in to your channel because of the sailing aspect. You guys do a great job with the videos and I really appreciate your presentation. A couple of boat things I’d like to point out. A level is almost useless on a boat unless you have done a bunch of work to set up level lines etc. while your project may be level, unless you took great pains to make the boat level.....I’m sure you can see where I’m headed. Also it looked like you used regular construction screws. Think about all of the boats you looked at with various rot and corrosion. You need to use stainless fasteners, even in the interior. What worked on your van, probably won’t always work on the boat. I hope you accept my comments in the spirit of wishing you great success and long years of sailing this beautiful boat.
As usual another wonderful video. And the build is beautiful such a great job you guys did! I have to beg you Lou, please wear eye protection when you're using the tools! I'm a retired surgical scrub nurse and every time I see you without I protection and you're using tools I freak out because I've seen so many accidents!!!! I worked trauma for over 40 years and I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy but it just makes sense to wear eye protection...... Plus I care about you guys💖💖💖⛵ you're awesome
It might have been prudent to sail her for a year before removing the nav station. But here's hoping you prove a bunch of old salts wrong
Agreed with this. Really great build though! Looks like a ton of work.
Yeah HR is one of the premier boat builders and it hurts me to see all that mahogany and teak be destroyed. Standing at that desk underway is gonna suck.
If they don’t plan on sailing much it won’t be a big deal though.
I guess it depends on their goals
Plenty of new boats don't include a dedicated nav station, it's not necessary. But yeah GL using a standing desk while underway.
@@777arc2 Thought the same thing about the galley layout.
@@777arc2 well in my experience it really depends on the type of sailing you do, I personally would never sail a boat without a nav station. When all your electronics get drowned and fail you are thankful to have a place where you can sit safely and work with a map
on your dravers, rub some candle wax on the surfaces that the dravers glide on :) that will make it move much smoother and not grip
Bar soap works too.
Yeah... I hope they've accounted for swelling of the wood in humid conditions.
wow thank you for this
Or bees wax! Works great.
My second video
You guys have tackled 2 of my major questions
1. Office space 2. Closet space
Excellent job on both
Leveling on a boat can be done pretty easily using a Bevel Box. Its a small device often used for table saws, that measures an angle and crucially has an adjustable 0° Angle. So you can zero it on a surface you want everything to be level to.
If you get tired of that support rope you could swap it out for a pair toy box mechanical hinges. They are dead easy to install. That would hold the Nav Station big lid open safely. Most of those type of hinges will also allow a soft close to help keep the wood from getting banged up on closing. Just a thought for the future. Cheers!
Well done you have tried your best,as you did with your van ,it looks fine ,and if like a lot of others who have done it,in a few sea- sons ,it might be all change around and a refit . The world belongs to the young ,most of us are to far over the hill now to even contemplate it, keep it up really enjoy your videos and you brought a good make of yacht, enjoy
Don't mind the negativity. It's your boat, your life, and your build. If you find it doesn't work for you, change it again. I think what you guys are doing brings out the beauty in being 'new to something' -- there's no prior knowledge holding you back and anything is possible at this point! Enjoy it. It's like being a kids again! Discovery is the best part of living.
I’m loving this so much! I highly recommend the channel, SV Delos! Goes back 10 years and the content and knowledge shared is amazing!!!!
*_ NO, rather go watch a PROFESIONAL sailor like Patrick Childress (Who sadly passed away the other day from Covid19) who takes you STEP BY STEP in boat Renos. His channel : _* ua-cam.com/channels/C7DRvfDAoFn5eMyfTnaA8w.htmlvideos
Fun to watch for inspiration to get out there and cross oceans, but not the channel to watch for DIY on a boat. there are a few good DIY channels out there, like Sail Life.
What I like to say is this ; one never put a gas bottle at the bottom of the boat compartment or in side.The gas bottles should be on deck compartment. Two battery's also must be placed in deck compartments ,or lockers, this is due to all gas leaks will stay in the bottom of the floor and can explode,.
My concern is the hole in the side of the boat. Above waterline not good enough.
Wow Lou really is good at building. The new storage area looks beautiful. Can’t wait to see it in use on the ocean.
you guys editing was always phenomenal but this video was one of the greatest examples of how well thought out it is. its so calming
You guys seem not only very talented, you also have the right attitude to tackle this gigantic project :) You inspire me a lot!
wow that canvas to keep the drawers closed is GENIUS. the desk looks fantastic!!
There’s obviously a lot looking at you taking out the nav station thinking “noooo” but it’s your boat! Worse case if your struggling to read charts on the go attach a strap of some sort to the nav so you can lean back against the strap and hook yourself in or out etc
Also I have the same arm for my Mac, be careful as it doesn’t like too much weight I had the 27” one and it struggled, I’d find a way to secure the arm on voyage as that could be expensive if it slams about. Even a simple bungee cord !
I have and I am watching many channels like yours in YT but for some reason, I am really loving your channel. Have to say I almost cried when you got rid of your Nav station...Please prove us we are wrong.
The new Nav station looks very well thought out and should give you some secure storage for many things.
Though I miss the van rides and stories , i look forward to the boat sails and IT'S stories. As far as the build today is concerned , you guys are amazing. yall got it as close to familiar as possible. Great job!
So nice to see such youthful enthusism. Looking forward to following your travels.
Your videos are sooo aesthetically pleasing, no matter what they're about! Destroying, repairing and building stuff never looked so good ❤
This was easier to watchs after already seeing it worked out. It looks beautiful and functional
This is so exciting! I love the illustrative graphics in this video, the videography that keeps me enthralled and never bored, and the ways you are reusing parts of the boat that you take out. I am excited to follow along with your renovation!
Be careful of monitor arms, unless it can hold it's position PERFECTLY still, it will wiggle and bounce with the boats movement, even at anchor.
We can't wait to see where this boat takes you on your adventures! Living in the van was one thing but this is next level and then some. Absolutely love watching you guys and your journey. ❤️😊🚌⛵
excited to see you guys learn on this journey! I believe in you!
Wow beautiful transformation, well done guys, so looking forward to more of the renovations. Cheers from Australia.
Listening carefully, I noticed they bought the boat in Feb. Given it's now almost July, I guess advice like, don't change the nav station, is going to come a bit late. Oh well. I guess we can still predict what will happen. I predict a standing desk on a 30 degree incline will not be good to use.
But I'd like to add, they did a very good job on the carpentry and I like the production quality and style of the video, particularly the music.
At sea nothing is level anyway, not even on moorings.
@@Verdigris. their creativity content filming editing& music is and has been epic. They are young.
Linda Mon they are. I’m keen to watch this epic next stage.but I have not seen nor am I very interested to see their van life period. What does surprise me is that they appear not to read or respond to these comments.
Good job guys...can't wait to follow your travels.
You and Lou are so genuine... stay humble. 😍
Wow there is SO much negativity here in the comments! I am so excited for the two of your guys and your new adventure. This is a learning experience and you should do what you thinks best to YOUR boat!
Adagio Borntrager I don’t honk it’s about being negative. This couple and her brother seem like really nice people and I think most want to really see them succeed. The issue is one of experience. Halberg Rassy is a fantastic boat builder. Experience is a great teacher. If you’ve never been on a sailboat even in calm water, you can’t understand what living on a boat is like. There is a reason there are grab rails everywhere on that boat.
I’m not even saying they shouldn’t have converted the Nav station. I’m just saying that until you have some experience with the boat, making drastic changes is not a recipe for success, It is a prolog to regret. Just having to move the companion way stairs to get in some of those drawers is going to get really old really quickly, I hate having to do it on my boat just to check the engine oil.
Ahh! I didn't realise the steps were moveable and spent the whole video worrying how you'd access the righ side drawers. Doh...! Such amazing synchronicity though...we are at the very beginning of our home renovation/homesteading journey and I've driven myself mad all day looking at power tool combo kits and I was just wondering whether I really need a planer or not. Now I see it can come in really useful. So exciting to watch your progress in this new adventure :)
Somewhere in the middle I just thought to myself how grateful I am to have found such a wholesome and entertaining channel.
Love you guys, but I really don’t hi k this was a good decision 😬 that extra seating is really sought after on a bit of your size, and when you’re on passage, sitting down to work on your paper charts is a lot better, especially if conditions are adverse. From one sailor to another
But they still have a table and more seating area?
Lou uses a standing desk bc of his arthritis and the function of the nav station is still there with plenty of chart storage and a large desk and if conditions are that bad they can just sit down at the table behind them 😊
Finding My Place how does he expect to stand and a boat going back and fourth on the ocean to do his work...
Bella Rose the same way you cook standing up when the boat is rocking back and forth, your body is able to adapt to the sways to a certain point and if the boat is rocking terribly I’m sure they are going to be focused on far more that video editing 😅
So far are the replies I’ve got have been fairly on point, one thing I should have included is the position the occupants would be standing in the boat relative to the boat. Say the occupants are standing in the galley facing forward (to the bow of the boat) it is then pretty easy to adapt to the notion of the boat moving side to side or at an angle. With the way the standing chart table is being built, the occupants would be facing the gunhaul (side of the boat) and so adapting tot hat notion would make chart work nearly impossible
I discovered your channel during lockdown and literally binged watched most of your videos. Happy to be part of the beginning of your boat journey now. Amazing videos and editing skills, keep it up!
So many elements of that build that bought me joy haha those cuts!! 🙌🏻
Every inch made with love! You guys are awesome, thank you for sharing your journey.
You guys did an amazing job!!! I'm so excited to see whats next! It's awesome watching how much you've improved since the van build
Looking forward to watching your upcoming adventures on the boat.
This just seems like a really poor location to store electronics, especially when you are in heavy seas. There will be times you have salt water pouring down the companionway. Plywood faces and edges should be sealed with epoxy coatings, wood should be glued up with epoxy, all fasteners should be stainless. Regular screws rust out really fast in a marine environment.
So sad about the nav station, if the boat wasn’t on the hard I think you might of looked for a solution that means you can stay a lill bit more secure while working and navigating, got to factor the waves even at a calm anchorage, tho your right nice to have storage and your defo gonna have strong legs!
Congratulations! you guys have developed some pretty amazing cabinet making skills. And your new nav station is the proof!
Hi! I'm very much enjoying sharing your boat adventure with you especially as I have also recently bought a Rasmus 35 (#235 1974). It is great to be inspired by your modifications and to see what the previous owners have also done. For example, I like the white kitchen tops as I would like to replace mine - can you please tell me what material they are made from? Looking forward to following your progress, and let me know when you're in Denmark so I can give you a tour of my boat!
New here with the boat. Super excited to watch you guys set sail!
Just a thought... perhaps some kind of removable plastic shield (washable) to clip to the new desk between the stove top and the future home of computers/electronics. Grease and food spatter will for sure be landing on that desk otherwise.
Another wonderful video guys! Great to see lots of Lou this week. You've all done a beautiful job on the desk 😍
Probably my favorite video y'all have created yet.
the comments on the last video: omg don't get rid of the nav station
this video: DEMOLISHING OUR BOAT'S NAV STATION!
Haha I mean they probably already did it long before the comments :D
Other ppls kids never listen.lol.
Thomas Alan IK,R?
I KNOOOWWW lol im sure it already happened but omfg 😂
When using level , how can you be sure that the boat itself is in leveled position?
thats what i was thinking. they probs but it on the floor first and accounted for it
Can’t wait to see you guys all done and on the water
you guys are amazing, my favourite channel to watch on youtube, thank you for being so happy and brightening my day 🌞🌈🌻
This is fabulous! Must be so proud of your accomplishments! Well done! Love from Brooklyn NY!
It's a good job that electronics always work. Oh wait! Good luck with that. I have been sailing for 30 years and there is one thing I will tell you now. Paper is more accurate than the electronic and much more reliable. I use both but I always double check everything with the paper. You will learn. Also if you plan on blue water get yourself a sextant and learn how to use it. It is not wort your lives relying on electronics.
I was wondering how those last bank of drawers were going to clear the stairs, had to wait for the last 10 seconds, thank you for including that shot, I would have been up all night!
Great videos. Always excited for a new episode to come out. It is sad however, how many people have left comments without researching. We are in the process of purchasing a HR Rasmus 35. There were hundreds made and lots of owners have made alterations to the nav desk, mainly due to the much needed storage or the lack of space for a fridge. It doesn't take a lot to realise that this is a fair swap as you spend more days at anchor than on passage, ask any cruiser. There is also the added benefit that the HR Rasmus 35 has a second nav desk located in the cockpit area where most chart plotters and instruments have been assigned, making the one in the saloon just a glorified storage desk. So why is it not a good idea to change it? We will be doing something similar.
I've only recently started watching your channel and can't wait to see where your boat takes you on your adventures! Looking forward to your future videos!
the construction ASMR content 🙌🏼 but actually your content brings so much peace during my stressful work days ❤️ best of luck on your new adventure!!!
Awesome build and a great boat to get for a sail boat. I don't know where your adventure will be taking you guys, but if you stop in cape Canaveral port let me know I work at a full service marina there. Good luck and looking forward to seeing vids on the water. 🤙
Well done!! Wow :) i appreciate your wonderful videos and the journey (information, authentic, creative living, and inspiration!) you share- from, on land to the water!! 😊🤙
Niiiiiiiice!!! Pro tip : if you want the drawers to slide smoothly (which in a boat...not sure ahah) you can rub a candle on the edges, the wax acts like a lubricant and stays quite long ;)
Can't wait to see more !!
Bar soap works too
How you are getting access to and behind main electrical panel during blackout?
how you are planning to do all measurering on charts with swell and hot pot next to table?
best :)
You are amazing!! And after watching current events, watching YOU is like a mental VACATION!!!❤
Well Done to all 3 of you, this was an awesome video to watch.
Thank You
This is fantastic! Every week I eagerly await your next video. Good luck! Thanks for bringing us along!
i mean... chart table are here for a reason. Even tough the rebuild looks good, will it be practical when you'll have to remove complete pannel to repair some electronics or smth like that (sorry for my english)
wow you did such a great job!!!! so cool!
Great job on the new desk!i look forward to seeing more of your new boat!
You all are so talented. Your videos are a joy to watch.
Ohh, this was so moving to watch. Thank you!
This turned out SO good! You guys always amaze me with the talents you have and how you use them
Wow you guys did an amazing job. So loving following your new journey. 😀
Finally catching up on the boat videos. You guys are incredible.
I admire how hard working and creative you are guys. I really do. :)
great to see the craftsmanship and you defensively gains lots of storage however it does not really tie into place with the rest of the interior and looks a bit home made with the finish. As a boat owner i would say it has devalued the boat and a nav station while yes takes up alot of space is there for a reason.
You guys are so wholesome😍
Earlier Van life...now boat life
This is the relationship i root for..
Best of luck to you guys
More power to you guys🙌💪
Such a wonderful professional job, hats off to you guys💚💚💚✊🏽
So I was wondering, do you plan to take a sailors course to learn how to sail, and how will you combat sea sickness. 5 years and I still get sick going deep sea fishing... lol I have used this band that worked but now I cant find them :(
I love your channel and I am so much looking forward to this next chapter in your adventure! (And don't listen to people giving you unsolicited advice)
Nice to see Lou - I've missed him!
This is so fun and exciting to watch you guys build a boat!! I bet you guys are getting a great leg workout from going up and down that ladder all day haha
Lots of new boats no longer include the nav station, no issues there, but with 3 people on the boat it might have been nice to have 1 seat off to the side so you're not all squished together at the table
Looks like a great job you have done there. You can always add a stool or temporary chair off the steps if you find standing in the boat too difficult in a swell: at least you will get a good core work out standing. Just a tip: If you aren't glueing joints I would get a wax candle and at least rub it along all the joint edges- squeaking on a boat will drive you nuts.. speaking of throw some wax on that lid opening too.
I love the music you guys use! it always fits the vibe of the video so well! i was just wondering if you guys could put the song title and artist in the description? that way it’s just a lil easier to find. can’t wait to see more of your boat adventures!!
I’m inspired to do some DIY I’ve been putting off for ages haha. You guys are beyond awesome.
Your wood will swell due to the natural moisture you'll experience in the boat. That might affect how easily you will be able to pull your drawers. Silicone or wax might help the skids. Marine plywood would be us good product to use.
An excellent job! Well done guys.
I think many of you don't seem to realise that this video was probably recorded and this desk was build before all the comments on the last video. Also... what does it matter if they make mistakes. They're young and they'll learn through experience. It won't be the end of the world.
Great job, guys. And great music.
Looking fab guys!!! Hat's off!!!
Excited to see how this journey goes! I'm so happy for you guys, best of luck xx
Watching you guys do this was so relaxing. Thank you for sharing. Can’t wait to be a part of more adventures with you guys ❤️