Do We Need a Wet Closet?
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2020
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The boat refit continues with another project, though this one is much easier than last week's Destroying Our Nav Station. When we were thinking of how to make the boat comfortable to live in, we realized that turning this hanging closet into one with shelves would help us a lot. We're not sure how often we'll be using this area as a wet locker, so we figured by putting in removable shelves we now have the option to store more items here when conditions were dry.
We still have a lot to learn and are figuring it out as we go. Luckily this solution is very flexible, so we will keep you updated with how it works once we're on the water :)
Thanks for all your love, tips, concerns, and advice!
Big hugs,
Dana
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You might consider adding a strip of fabric over all the slats to “tie” them together in case you actually do remove a shelf you could roll it up to stow it, without having to figure out where and how to stow individual slats. We hang our foulies all the time so we always know where they are and they are easy to put on quickly without having to dig for them in some locker. Storage is an issue on just about every boat.
On our Rasmus 35 we hang our foulies as well, although I have tried it both ways. We have the same exact boat and we use a small fraction of this very hanging locker which they modified in this video to hang them in, as well as hanging a couple of shore excursion jackets. The boat also has a similar hanging locker in the aft cabin for other crew. The rest of our locker is filled with latching sealed containers from the container store stacked in like Tetris with very little wasted space all the way to the top. The tiny bits of wasted space that a Tetris Master cant fill with these containers due to the curved & slanted hull are filled-in with rubber foul weather boots. As I mentioned in a earlier post, this locker has a ventilation issue and water tends to drip in from condensation forming on the window above and on the cold chainplates bolted inside and going up to the cold outside through the deck. Mold is always an issue so anything stored in here mist be sealed, plastic, or mold resistant. We usually keep the aft door off and stored elsewhere to allow air circulation otherwise the foulies will get nasty. We have a dry boat with no leaks, but humidity and condensation is always a problem
Rolling foulies and securing the roll with a sized bungie band is a quick and easy way to store and secure them if they have a "place" where they can be always found. When I did a lot of crewing on different boats I always had a backpack that I would being with me on gigs. Foulies, clothes, layers, PFD, and all my gear all fit into one large backpack.
When foulie season comes it seems they are used practically every day for weeks on end -especially when travelling every day when migrating. The ICW and coastal East Coast in October, November, December going South is one of those times. Hanging them. Even after they are dry saves constantly rolling and unrolling them no matter how efficient and slick your ditty bag packing system is.
I think the slats are the same width
Upholstery webbing stapled to the boards would work well.
Interesting turn in comment-style on wild we roam videos since boat stuff started happening.
More critiques and criticism than van-life videos. Also interesting how you are seemingly changing your videos a bit to adjust to these comments. In this video you ask for our input (do we need this?) instead of posing a conclusion (we demolished the Nav station!). The adjustable shelves also seems to stem from comments suggesting to do projects only once you've been sailing for a while.
I know nothing of sailing, but i'm a social scientists so i can't help but observe. Anyway. You're doing great Lou & Dana! I salute your way of creating space for the wild we roam community! : )
I noticed this, too. I think the difference is that "boat life" is more niche/specialised than van life, as it's harder to get your hands on a boat than a van, from resources, to money, to safety, to geography. It's more high stakes to be in a boat (especially open water) than in a van, so I think the experienced sailors (probably almost all new viewers) are chiming in out of a genuine sense of duty of care and a moral obligation to speak up if they fear for someone's safety, or even just a mistake that will make life hard/uncomfortable down the road. I know nothing of van life or boat life, but I love the film making/storytelling/music selections, so I would probably be here even if they were filming the meticulous removal of carpet tacks for 20 minutes :)
@@AbroadonaBudget Haha same! Give me 10 hours of DIY-multiplex-footage and I'm good. :)
#1 Sailors are an opinionated lot. They also hate to see people make the same mistakes they have made or observed others make, especially if it puts a person’s life in danger. #2 smart sailors listen to and consider more experienced sailors opinions. There is nothing like experience on the water. I have seen and heard people with thousands of miles under their keel defer to a local sailor with local knowledge many times, experience is the rule of the day.
I think they filmed these in advance so they'd have to record something seperately to talk about the comments from last time. maybe they should make a QandA :)
I think a lot stems from the change of environments. Boats have the specific problem of being a constantly hostile place, from carbon monoxide buildup in lockers, leaks and the salt that seeks to destroy you and everything you own. In a lot of ways I think people are just trying to guide them in a direction less likely to cost a fortune or a life in the long run.
You could attach all the slats together with canvas and just roll them up when you want to remove them instead of having to do it one by one. Fun watching you guys. What a life!!
Great idea to make them with slates, helps with clothes to breath.....and removable, simply brilliant!
I am loving the attention to detail you are putting in to the build, but I can't help thinking that the first time you launch Odi-ma-boati, will be the last time those shelves will ever be level.
Using velcro is such a smart idea! That’s a great way of using all the space accessible on a boat. Keep up the good work!
I am in genuine awe of your craftsmen-ship and your simple get up and do it. I don't know where that particular closet was (is) located but ... What you absolutely will need is a place near the steps/doorway to the rear cockpit where you can hang wet weather gear because at some stage you will absolutely need to dash out into the rain, spray, cold or wind. (And) having a hanging place for that gear is so handy (and for footwear too) And no these moments don't always come at sea or offshore..you might even experience this need on dry dock. A sudden storm, a realisation something is out on deck that shouldn't be (camera!) and you need to go and quick. A handy jacket and boots near the exit is so handy.
I watched your van build in Spain fairly recently. The contrast with these videos is pretty stark. Those videos show immense joy and discovery, while these seem so workmanlike. Maybe you need a dog or something.
Great well put together content so far. Well done! Just a comment though on your build style. Although you all seem to be well versed in putting together a road going camper van, an ocean going vessel is quite a bit different. There is a reason boat builders use expensive hardwoods like teak and mahogany along with stainless steel hardware and fasteners. Also epoxy coating instead of just household paint. In the long term the expensive materials hold up longer under the constant forces of the sea and the saltwater environment. Just my opinion as a marine technician and boat owner for the past 30 years but I am thinking you might have wanted to sail your new Rasmus for awhile before making some of the modifications.
I agree....
You may want to invest in some vacuum bags to compress clothes and keep them mold-free while storing long-term!
Yes. Definitely.
Trust your gut and do it your way ❤️
Some people would take the boat out for some miles before doing adjustments, and some do certain adjustments before the trip.
Neither of both is right, or wrong.
So trust your intuition and I am sure it will be one heck of a boat.
I love the new spirit in the cruisers community with that van life flare ☺️
I can tell you from experience that this locker is NOT a wet locker. It is tough enough keeping the mold out of here as it is.
The port is going to leak a little, but also it is going to sweat like crazy in colder weather as moisture condenses on it and drips down into the locker. We keep one of the doors off almost all of the time because if both are left on it'll be mold city in there.
Wet foulies hang in the cockpit under the soft top. You'll eventually want at least a partial enclosure, if not a full one. Now your cockpit is your wet locker too -as well as your shower and screened-in porch outside.
We find that all if our non-foulie clothes fit rolled up and placed onto the shelves above the berths. We strung shelf-to-ceiling netting in front of this shelf area on both sides of the V-berth to keep everything in, yet still breathe. Hanging mini-hammock nets are below the shelf for more storage. If you need more clothes storage than this then boat life may not be for you.
We used containers from the container store for compartmentalizing the hanging locker. They have tight-sealing lids to keep moisture out and fit tightly into the space like a Tetris Master if you shop for the right ones that fit just so. Way more stuff can be jammed into a plastic container with a locking lid than can ever be put onto shelves.
I can't wait for you guys to get on the water and start your journey
You guys are definitely my weekly source of inspiration! Best of luck with this exciting new journey! Greetings from Portugal :)
Great job guys! Watching your videos is like therapy, your calming nature really is amazing! Thank you from across the ocean 😊 Thanks for sharing your journey x
“Teamwork makes the dream work” 💕 such a sweet couple.
i am just so happy for y'all. you truly live your dreams and it is so inspiring. have been following you two for a long time and I just love every video you create. Keep up the amazing job and chasing your dream!
Yay, I am so glad you guys are back doing tiny! I find your videos so wholesome and interesting. I always look forward to your weekly updates. Take care and enjoy your exciting new adventure!!
Just tonight discovered your folks and watched some videos and see that you are giving up van life ,which I can certainly understand, will keep watching and enjoying and wishing you well!
What beautiful souls- creating and living out their dreams.
It is so exciting to see your boat journey! Can't wait for the sailing vlogs ✨ You guys are so ambitious and I commend your DIY attitude 🙌 x
Was having an ok day but just became so much happier after seeing you posted 😊
I love the slats idea. I started watching van life videos to find creative space ideas for my horse trailer.
Wow amazing how you rebuild the boat, its so inspiring!!!
Excellent guys.We have the same boat and plan on doing the same thing. Your chain plates will almost definitely be leaking in the back of that of that cupboard and on the other side too. We have to seal them up regularly. Good luck with the rest of your adventures.
Glad to see it’s all coming together great stuff
Great Projekt. Wish u a real good time on the boat.
We love watching you guys tackle these projects! You've inspired us to try and make our very own dog crate and if it turns out anywhere near as good as your projects have turned out then we'd be over the moon! Looking forward to next week's video! :)
i’ve never been this early for a video but i’m so excited to see the progress to your new home
Hey :) Love the boat videos, how you make every project it's own video :) It makes everything that's going on really easy to comprehend and it's just the right amount of input :)
Lou looks so healthy. I hope he feels as good as he looks.
Lovely video guys. You are inspired us to film our life on the boat, although we live on a canal boat in the UK. Lots of love!
I just looked at your videos and they seem really intresting! You definetly earned a new subscriber ❤❤
@@lild4769 Awww thank you Lily, that's so cool! So glad to have you! 💜
Aww I just found you! I didn't realize these guys were your inspiration! How cool x
Absolutely love you guys. I've watched most of your van videos (shed a tear when selling..), and I'm happy to see you continue. It's nice to also see Lou more on video, he seems like a very nice person.
Don't know where you are, but if you are in the NL, we'd be very happy to pass by :) (not with our van yet though... That's not in the state of driving..)
You should post more often!!! I always look forward for your weekly video🎈
You guys have the best ideas!
Spirit level on a boat ! Hope it's straight 🤞
Would have been easier and better to use a 90-degree framing square and strike a line out on the bulkhead at 90-degrees from the door panel which is already plumb. A cheap framing square should be a tool on any boat for doing any basic carpentry, or perhaps a more advanced compound one if you know how to use it.
Nice refit on the closet. It seems it will be so much more versatile. Keep up the great work. Until our adventures cross, fair winds and full sails ⛵
I’m not kidding when I thought you were going to butcher that hanging closet I was going to have to quit watching. I was that upset about the nav station but I do believe you as two caring creative people with good hearts. Really smart to wait. Also was so good to see you Lou.
U guys are amazing. So happy for u
i love these video keep up the good work
This is an awesome idea I like it I'll be building my own spiritual retreat get away in the next week it's nothing spectacular it will feel alot like home that much I do know keep up with the inspirational videos beautiful souls we need more people like you in this world
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Good to see things coming together on the yacht. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us that watch your channel my friends.
I really appreciate the muting or quieting of the drilling and construction noise - during Ody's built it was hard to watch because it was so much that it gave me a headache lol.
So excited to be along for this next journey
LoL I need to add a light shelf in the camper and this looks perfect! Thanks!
love you guys!!!! but please make longer videos I can't get enough!!!
Boats are wet closets.
Big fan of ur channel Arya from India... Alllll the best for ocean travel s
Such a great idea!
Love the changes on your new Home! So you guys planning to take a course on how to Sail a boat? I wonder what that will be like?
Just a thought. If you attach nylon or cotton webbing to the top of the slats along the ends they will roll up into a neat compact bundle for easy storage when you need to expand the space.
Going to get started doing this myself tomorrow
Vlog It!
i would happily watch your process you should record it
Exciting!
Looking forward to seeing your world cruise.
..... laughing ..... a thought just crossed my mind, is the boat going to be the same level when it is in the water as opposed to being on the hard .... what a great redo of the closet, did you think of possibly doing a divider down the middle, so if need be as you mentioned wanting a hanging wet locker, that you could convert just half ...... thx for sharing a peek into your refit adventure .... never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .... have fun be safe, save our oceans .....
Hooray! So much less capslock this time 🥳
6:44 - You have about 30-60 seconds of pliability. Don't get you skin stuck to it or you're losing the skin off your fingers.
I like how this mod lets you back out if you have to. Bear in mind: velcro bonds get stronger with time and vibration. If it's very secure right now, it will be hard to remove later after the boat has rocked a lot and you have loaded and unloaded it and the wood has swelled and contracted with moisture.
New viewer here, got interested when you bought a boat :D Great videos, it's really fun to follow your new adventure! A thought to consider might be using stuff that holds up well to the harsh and salty conditions aboard. One question - I see you are using a water ruler a lot. I take it you've made sure that the boat itself is aligned precisely on the ground? Then I guess all one can do is hoping it's not biased to either port or starbord when it gets in the water :)
Ребята вы очень крутые !)Удачи вам .Я один с России кто вас смотрит !?))))) You guys are really cool !)Good luck to you.I am the only one from Russia who watches you !?)))))
Idk why you chose velcro but there are shelves supports that are little round things that you can insert wherever you want just by making a little hole. Then you can use shelves with indents on them and mount them on the supports. Super removable, super practical.
I was wondering if they didn't want solid shelves because they would be more difficult to store if all needed to be removed at once.
Similar to kitchen units? Would likely rattle much more during passage and harder to stow after conversion
I love that your boat project is going so well!! Just wondering why you guys chose to get a boat? Have you guys been sailors your whole lives or are you just getting into it? ⛵️
Are those silver bags you have in your new closet waterproof?
Do you have some kind of lighting for inside the closet? Perhaps something LED so it will be bright and the batteries might last longer.
Could you recommend some skillshare courses to teach me colour grading? You’ve come so far (your videos are looking sooooo professional) and I’d love to learn too!
'if everything got wet or something' it's sailing, it's a matter of when, not if. Please keep some of the useful sailing spaces, there's nothing worse than overcomplicated stowage when it's cold wet and you want to take your wet weather gear off without drenching the rest of the boat.
Yayyyyy!!!!!
I have a question, why did you peeps use wooden planks instead of 1 slat? I love your channel!💛🛥😁
Nice job. Labise.
Ok, I am only trying to help. But unless that boat is sitting 100% level. Bow to Stern, Port to Starboard. That level is giving you a wrong reading. You really should be measuring off a benchmark. Just trying to help.
Hehe, i was thinking the same! But to be honest, it‘s a locker, if the shelfs are not leveled 100%, who cares?! There will be only clothes in it...
Theresa Kober the desk drawers on the other hand ?
Yeah, when it comes to the desk drawer, that‘s another story! You are absolutly right!! But still, it is a boat and will be floating on the water some day. So it will never be leveled 100% in the water. So where is the point in leveling it totally correct? You know what i mean?
@@theresakober8754 I get what you mean, but I don't entirely agree. By leveling it, they also just make sure that the shelves fit in. In addition; even if it would appear not to be 'levelled' once on water, the shelves align to each other.
Those animations where cool
Once you guys get out on the water it would be cool to see what youre cooking and how your cooking it on the boat, with the space you have, how your storing it, etc!
Open full screen, select 4k, watch the newest Wild We Roam video.
Often said the best day of your life is buying your first boat... the second best? Selling it! Make sure you are as safe as possible in the intervening period. Don’t carry any bananas and don’t leave port on a Friday! Really do think you should look in to gaining some guided sailing experience experience though.
Johnny Frisco her brother is a competitive sailor so they’re a step ahead
@@lisat9013 still think they all need experience together... It's the sensible and responsible thing to do.
How do you know they’re not?
Lisa T because they said so!
When?
Just curious. Maybe i missed or didnt see this. But why didnt you guys paint the whole inside of the closet white? Why just the new stuff?
Wait this was posted one min ago?😍
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Eagarlyy wait for your every vedio lovee you guys frrom india be safee plzzz ❣️🙁
A non nautical comment...We love you both, but it's great to enjoy more viewing time with Lou! 😍🤭😉😄
.....stop giggling in agreement with this comment, Dana!.... LOL
boat life looks like a home
Lol he said “my”clothes once and she doesn’t let go.
Can you add this song to a video? "See The World - Vladkulak"
If you drill and you get water, pull your life jacket on. 🤣🤣🤣
I see you made it into the water
It can also be the naughty cupboard.
if you can , give it a slide-door :) saves space
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I hope that's Marine Grade Velcro 🤭
level... to the point that your boat is level on the hard >
Why is it lous cabinet, does everybody gets a cabinet on the boot!
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I'd normally suggest you actually spend some time sailing on a boat in varied weather before making any changes (other than essential repairs/upgrades) as what you think you need and what you actually need can be very different. You obviously know better.
I thought this too, but I guess you need to consider that their actions are probably heavily influenced by the fact they want to do things that will generate interest, and make interesting videos. I guess they could just produce multiple videos of Dana hauling sheets, or Lou trimming the main, but they have a pre-existing audience who liked watching van living, van modification videos. So I guess you should expect more boat living, boat modification videos.
Oh frick. You did get a boat. I thought you were just joking when you sold you van.
so I have never once thought to put on gloves to use super glue....o how my fingers would have thanked me lol
Do you?
As a sailer, a yachtmaster, I almost did not watch this second video on your boat modifications after you ditched your nav station. I am glad your modifications to the wet locker are removable. If you are really going to do blue water sailing and live on the boat while travelling, a wet locker is critical. You can’t lay the wet clothes on the your bed, your bed will be wet for the whole journey. God help you if your electronics on a 40 year old boat fail.....that nave station will be missed indeed. This is not a van, this is a near perfectly designed blue water boat. Be very careful what you change if your experience is more on the tiny home side rather than the blue water side of things. The consequences of a mistake can escalate quickly to death at sea. I am fan, I love your videos, but some of the stuff you are doing to this Swedish sailing beauty are making me very nervous for you. Be careful. Get good advice from blue water sailers. Never depend 100 percent on the electronics, the fail and fail regularly where you can not get them repaired.....Good luck.
I’m interested to see this crew take to the water, less interested to watch redesigning a cupboard. I think I’ll just look out for a new video called something like “she floats”.
David Maslen bye now! The rest of us are enjoying the process.
Bad move you guys. Wet lockers are ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL on every sailboat. You could have built a boot shelf at the bottom . . . . . . and then called it quits.
I enjoy you guy’s videos !!💘💘 u all seem very nice !
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Imagine they do all of this work, then go sailing and hate it? seems a bit silly imo..
I LIKE BOATS!
glue will fail. paint not varnish not good.
Do we need wet closet?ask your self lol