This Backswing Mistake is Killing Your Timing and Speed 😱

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  • Опубліковано 7 тра 2023
  • In this video, Mike Granato and Shaun Webb of Athletic Motion Gof address the common misconception of trying to take timing out of your golf swing. Great players understand the importance of timing and know that you can't take it out of the swing without making it worse. The guys show you exactly what timing is in the golf swing and how to train it so you can have perfect timing and speed in your golf swing.
    They discuss what happens at the start of the backswing, going into the top of the backswing, and, most importantly, what happens in the downswing. Timing in the golf swing is when things happen in the swing, and you can relate this to other sports. Just like shooting a basketball free throw, the timing and sequence of movements are crucial.
    Mike and Shaun explain the early part of the backswing and the specific speed that professionals have, which amateurs often lack. We'll also show you how to control and swing the mass of the club to your benefit and avoid bouncing off the shoulders, which is a common mistake.
    Lastly, they examine the swings of recent tour winners and show you the similar things they do with regard to timing and speed in their swings, despite their different swing looks.
    If you want to improve your golf swing, you need to understand and train your timing and speed. Watch this video to learn more!
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  • @jamieparlow2713
    @jamieparlow2713 11 місяців тому +16

    All the years I've worked with, "professional" instructors, not one of them could explain this as succinctly as you gentlemen did in this video. I'm truly hoping this helps me return to my 5 hcp. Thank you for saving yet another golf swing. 🖐

  • @3rdmillenniumfuture607
    @3rdmillenniumfuture607 Рік тому +28

    That hairpin turn idea is a great analogy.

  • @booberry6715
    @booberry6715 9 місяців тому +2

    For me, nobody on YT quite gets to the things that really resonate with me like these guys. So much good stuff...

  • @Cali510Livin
    @Cali510Livin Рік тому +3

    ***Alright, I have been meaning to comment on one of your videos and here it is.
    You guys have changed the way I see golf and I have never been better than I am now. I am a victim of going down rabbit holes for years, changing my swing on the course after a bad shot, practicing for hours on the wrong things and grinding and not seeing results.
    The day I committed to ONLY watch instructional videos from you guys I saw immediate results. That was a month ago and my HC has dropped to single digits and will continue to drop.
    Just wanted to give a shout out to you guys for all the work you put in, the live lessons you upload and the way you break down the swing. I bought 4 tee shirts as a thank you for instruction and look forward to seeing your upcoming videos. No more rabbit holes, no more conflicting information and no more questioning my swing every time I hit a bad shot on the course! Having the ability to “swing athletically” has changed my game. 🙏🏻🙌🏻😄.
    P.s if there is ever a time when you guys slow down and offer 2 hour lessons I will be flying from Cali to Florida/GA!

  • @rickc3291
    @rickc3291 Рік тому +7

    Great video guys. Have never seen this information presented in this way before. In a lesson last year, a pro who is a friend of mine told me I needed to increase the speed of my backswing. I understood what he said but implementing it into the whole swing wasn’t easy. The way you integrated the downswing sequence and speed with the backswing was an “aha” moment for me. The step drill you mentioned really helps to increase the backswing speed. Dr. Kwon’s training video’s are excellent for this. Thanks for all the great material!!

  • @rodneywickens4669
    @rodneywickens4669 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for this video and all the other 100s I have watched!!! You two have helped me tremendously over the last two years!!!

  • @KilbyDerek
    @KilbyDerek Рік тому +2

    The information contained in all your videos is amazing. Thank you

  • @frankskyle1
    @frankskyle1 Рік тому +6

    I've never heard the rhythm of the backswing explained so well. And this is something that has been lacking in my swing. Thanks!

  • @BrianH020
    @BrianH020 9 місяців тому

    00.09 on the first try... I had seen your videos recommended by UA-cam, but had never clicked on them until fellow golf instructor Eric Corgonro recommended you. Now a full time watcher. As others have said, your approach to teaching is so different than almost everybody else, yet so understandable. The Gear system showing what actually happens by the pros totally blows up so many misconceptions, such as the low and slow. Wonderful content guys, keep it up!

  • @mchristensen63
    @mchristensen63 Рік тому +1

    Great content and explanation. Such a key concept!

  • @frankskyle1
    @frankskyle1 5 місяців тому

    I get something from everyone of your vidios, but this one is special. Thanks!!

  • @jenniferjackson5868
    @jenniferjackson5868 4 місяці тому

    Very insightful and delivered in a succinct manner. Really has altered my concept of the golf swing and its elements.

  • @hannesreinhardt1399
    @hannesreinhardt1399 2 місяці тому

    Your vids are really the best. Don't stop posting, please.
    If i lived nearby, i'd really consider booking lessons with you - although i'm completely selftought (best was hdc 3) and actually never ever take lessons. But the big difference is your 3d motion capture, which truly tells how it is (no parallax etc in the way), your deep understanding of this technologie and your ability to teach how to convert desired numbers and angles into a swing"feel".
    Thx!

  • @saucyjack77
    @saucyjack77 Рік тому +1

    This was extremely helpful! Great video as always!

  • @jonwill
    @jonwill 9 місяців тому

    Well presented; thank you for sharing.

  • @toddwmac
    @toddwmac Рік тому

    Thanks guys, this is such an important and often under emphasized topic. Like a lot of people with backgrounds in sports like baseball, basketball, tennis, racquet ball and especially fly fishing, had a golf instructor spent any meaningful time with me connecting golf timing to those other sports, my game would have started improving decades ago. it was not until a teacher eventually (as you guys described) told me to think of literally tossing the head of the club up in the back swing and letting it carry my arms did things start to click. In that moment, the feeling of acceleration, natural deceleration and then direction change with reacceleration became perfectly clear. This connected timing and direction change perfectly to things like casting a fly or hitting a tennis ball. As an ex-motorcycle racer, this video makes that even more clear. Thanks for your content!

  • @geoff376
    @geoff376 Рік тому +1

    Love this explanation. Very clear and chimes with the swing speed devotees too. The arm movement described from the top has virtually eliminated getting stuck with the driver for me. So does the body react to the armswing or does it move to allow the arms to swing?

  • @leftyduffer
    @leftyduffer Рік тому +1

    Good stuff. I've been working tempo/timing a lot the last few months. I have slower swing and I'm finding a longer backswing helps me....taking that extra beat at the top in transition.

  • @lrcofficialmusic
    @lrcofficialmusic Рік тому +3

    You guys have single handedly fixed my golf swing from your videos and I'm extremely grateful! Thanks guys 👍

  • @vegas005
    @vegas005 11 місяців тому

    Incredible information. You guys are the best.

  • @Stan_sprinkle
    @Stan_sprinkle Рік тому +3

    This is a cool video. I’m so pumped to get to the range asap. Multiple light bulbs just went off, like when I think about what it feels like to hit my best shots and my worst, this information makes so much sense now

  • @leemaster611
    @leemaster611 21 день тому

    This is easily the best channel out there to help fix your swing.

  • @gobigreddude
    @gobigreddude Рік тому +1

    Wow, this is amazing. Thank you so much! I'm pretty sure I'm guilty of all 3 reasons why I don't have enough speed in my golf swing. Awareness is probably more than half the battle and now I know the why and what to focus on. I still want to make sure I'm getting to the right place half way down in the downswing with weight shift and re-centering correctly early in the transition and on plane but now I have a clear path of things to work on to add speed. This is huge!

  • @oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656

    Great work as always.

  • @bobfrantz768
    @bobfrantz768 Рік тому +2

    Crazy you posted this video today. I’d been chunking my wedges more than normal and used a more brisk takeaway this weekend and it really helped. Most consistent irons I’ve hit this year. Great stuff.

    • @bobfrantz768
      @bobfrantz768 Рік тому +1

      My arms were breaking down because i was going back too slow, swaying, and the was trying to manually manipulate my wrist angles. Disastrous. More flinging the club up so wrists naturally set and made much better contact. The force of opposites also helped me transfer my weight forward earlier bc it was resisting the speed going back. Watching these videos and explanations has had me go from over the top and casting to a more respectable swing. Thanks fellas.

    • @AthleticMotionGolf
      @AthleticMotionGolf  Рік тому +1

      @@bobfrantz768 Awesome job!

  • @awesomesaucer4128
    @awesomesaucer4128 Рік тому +4

    I also was able to get .11 a couple times, however .13-.15 was far more common over 20 attempts. It aptly puts into perspective how fast the downswing happens, especially the last part of the sequence. I have a tendency to get fast which as you described has unpredictable results because of the chaotic transition. Thank you for putting together this instruction on pro timing, why it's important, and how different timing errors affect impact.

    • @patrickbigras5232
      @patrickbigras5232 Рік тому

      Same here , between 0,13 and 0,15 with a best of 0,10 😃

  • @VDEP2727
    @VDEP2727 10 місяців тому

    This is incredible information 💯💯💯

  • @roadtoscratchgolf3481
    @roadtoscratchgolf3481 Рік тому +1

    This is great information. Never thought about the speed slowing down as it approaches the top of the backswing, and never thought about the downswing speeding up as it comes around that arc like a race car driver. Thanks for the info. Didn’t know the swing from start to impact was about 3/4 of a second, and had no idea that from waist high in the downswing it takes .08 seconds. I pulled out y stopwatch and was only able to get to start and stop 0.17 seconds. Cheers.

  • @LucNguyen-lv7kq
    @LucNguyen-lv7kq Рік тому +3

    .07 was my best..... This video made me realize how slow my hand speed was at the beginning of the backswing. Once I started speeding up my hands earlier, I felt like I had way more time going into the down swing. Hitting the ball a lot further! Thank you, guys!

    • @chetranqui
      @chetranqui 9 місяців тому

      Same, .07! ..and that's doing something that we don't even have to think about..

  • @russdaley5333
    @russdaley5333 Рік тому +2

    .15 seconds was my standard on stopwatch test. Got a .10 one time. Crazy how fast that part of the swing is. Appreciate the reminder to let go of multiple swing thoughts during this tiny amount of time! Nostalgic to see the old warehouse in the video. Can't wait to see some from your new place in Winter Garden.

    • @AthleticMotionGolf
      @AthleticMotionGolf  Рік тому +1

      The warehouse is such a cool place. Scott's added a bunch of memorabilia from his work on the road... it's even cooler now! The new place is pretty darn cool too 😎

    • @gwmgolf-wo1wp
      @gwmgolf-wo1wp Рік тому

      @@AthleticMotionGolf thanks for your latest podcast…..man that really hit home trying to swing at 50% effort. If you can’t make the changes at that effort it’s impossible to do it at full speed! That’s 💰💰💰 funny story…..I’ve discovered that my 50% should be my new 100%. 🤯
      I’ve spent all winter trying to revamp my swing and don’t take more than 2 swings without watching it on video. That’s been game changer!!! With this extra bit of info I’m pumped for this year on the course! Thanks again for all the great content!

  • @joyoon
    @joyoon 9 місяців тому

    Great video. Great to see these concepts explained. I got .08 several time and even .02, .01. I play video games so..

  • @jonathananderson6634
    @jonathananderson6634 Рік тому +1

    Love the videos guys, the scientifically backed data on the golf swing is different level. In the takeaway you often talk about swinging the arms back and a lot of the drills you do for the takeaway involve swinging your arms in some way. But to reach the perfect position at the top of the backswing, you talk about it being a combination of a wrist hinge, raising the arms, and a rotation of all the major parts of the body. Im confused by how much "swing" there is in the golf swing, hope you can shed some light!

  • @ze_ma1965
    @ze_ma1965 Рік тому

    Great video! Thanks a lot! Could you show two or three slo-mo video of pros and show exactly the timing/max speed of the hands? Isn't it that you should start the first foot of the backswing slow??

  • @ScottCorey-zl7je
    @ScottCorey-zl7je Рік тому +5

    .11 was my best. Insane how fast that transition is. Appreciate how well you guys deconstruct all of this and will try working on meeting the high speed points earlier. Cheers!

  • @bodynfocus
    @bodynfocus 8 місяців тому

    Few .07s, couple .08s ...
    Similar to a couple other comments, I have just found your channel within the last 2 weeks. Fantastic videos. The 3d is terrific. Keep up the great work.

  • @mariorivero5246
    @mariorivero5246 Рік тому

    Great video guys! Question: Is this hand speed measurement from rotation (indirect speed of hands) in the backswing? Then from top (at 10 mins 15 secs of video) it stated when you pull on the club from the top, is that a weight shift/sitting into left side pull??? Or the Sergio Garcia analogy of pulling on a rope from the top, there again using hands to actively pull or does the mass of the body/arms create the pull?

  • @hermdetector
    @hermdetector Рік тому

    Great video opened my eyes. Any videos that could help with pro timing?

  • @CJBwebvideo
    @CJBwebvideo Рік тому +2

    I really struggle with this and am wondering if keeping the arms more connected to the torso will help versus a more arm-oriented backswing. In other words, it’s a lot harder to control flailing arms versus the much more solid torso. Thoughts? Thank you!!!

  • @jasontell7481
    @jasontell7481 Місяць тому

    What surprised me the most was the stands. Wow. They are not dead center. I realized they do this so they can have a perfect back swing. This stance helps them stop from over extending the backswing move. Priceless. Please talk about that too

  • @mitch3745
    @mitch3745 Рік тому

    Dang, I really can't stop it before .1 that's wild. Great video and analogies boys!

  • @johnk.atchley5079
    @johnk.atchley5079 Рік тому +1

    Useful as always. Will review before my next session in the PGA Super Store hitting bay. But here is a, let's say confusing factor. If you have trouble as I do at 82 this June in getting your weight on to the left side, turning the hips toward the target and getting the right knee up alongside the left knee and the right foot up on the toe, and as a result find your arms and hands getting ahead of the hips and releasing too early, it can make me try to hold the arm swing back and keep the wrists cocked. That conflicts with the correct timing you show where once the hands are back down part way you don't think or try anything and simply allow the weight and momentum of the club head to come through at max speed. Even if you may try to not release early, you can still find yourself doing it if your swing is videoed. What do you suggest?

  • @Frank-yx1np
    @Frank-yx1np Рік тому

    Great info

  • @PXGProto
    @PXGProto Рік тому +1

    In an ideal world, you guys are the brains (mechanics) in my swing, Dr. Kwon the rhythm, and Mike Austin the brawn.

  • @bendgiacoma8619
    @bendgiacoma8619 Рік тому

    Makes perfect sense and certainly we’ll explained and simplified. Love your work gents. 0.10 on the stop watch 😊

  • @xwaleze
    @xwaleze 6 місяців тому

    Muy buen Video.

  • @bamit1515
    @bamit1515 10 місяців тому +1

    I hope people appreciate the quality of your content. Please keep sharing. You guys are are better by miles compared to some other much more popular channels.

  • @Avid2see
    @Avid2see 2 місяці тому

    Wow! Many years of playing and fortunate to be a 2 handicap player but this video was an absolute EUREKA moment. Can't wait to apply at the range tomorrow. Many thanks from the UK 🇬🇧

  • @ExpoProof
    @ExpoProof Рік тому

    Thnx guys. Good stuff again. Did the stopwatch, got the 0,08 but felt like one tap. Indeed no window for thinking 😅

  • @derrickdavis3170
    @derrickdavis3170 2 місяці тому

    Next level stuff!

  • @shamilhassan4229
    @shamilhassan4229 Рік тому

    Hey boys your content is tremendous and you have helped me so much over the years! I really appreciate it
    Tell me this can use this concept for chipping and pitching as well?

  • @michaelrolton7502
    @michaelrolton7502 Рік тому

    Great video. My first stopwatch was .15, then .07. Really need to speed up the first part of my downswing

  • @industrialpalletworx3548
    @industrialpalletworx3548 Рік тому +1

    Great video. This is very close to what I've been working on. I'm working that Harvey Penick magic move trying to get past that "arm wrestling" move coming out of the top. By the way. I got .08 on my first try and .07 on my second try. I have really fast, fast twitch speed. Former pitcher and dabbled in long drive 20 some years ago.

  • @bizbud
    @bizbud 11 місяців тому

    Great video guys. Very helpful. One tip for you if you don’t mind me sharing. I bet if you look at your retention graphs on this video you’ll see a sharp downturn around 12:30 and beyond.
    This happens because the scene changes and the content ends and then it’s you making multiple asks (like, comment subscribe etc). It kind of feels like the video is over so people bounce.
    My suggestion is to have a followup video that makes a lot of sense to this one and then tell people why they should watch it. Don’t say goodbye or ask for subs. Just explain what they’re missing in that next video. It will help retention time and session time metrics.
    I’m off to the range to work on my swing speed now!

  • @jakerdzgames5557
    @jakerdzgames5557 Рік тому

    Somehow .06, great information, really appreciate the content!

  • @jonfoster6626
    @jonfoster6626 Рік тому

    Great lesson today! My fastest time on the stopwatch was .11 but most attempts were .13 to .15.

  • @johnsahhar7599
    @johnsahhar7599 Рік тому +1

    I understand the start of the backswing to be like a heave, where the purpose of initial speed is to give the club the momentum needed to coast to the top. I love the way you explained it. Thank you.
    Do you, in your way of thinking, define the downswing as the movement from the top of the backswing to the end of follow through? If so, then is it true that between the top of the backswing through to the end of the follow through, the fasted hand speed the pros reach is in that tiny window? If so, does that mean that even though the body continues to rotate through to the end of the follow through -- the hands continue to slow down at a consistent rate from the above fastest speed until they stop at the top of the follow through?? Thank you. I would love an answer on this. Seems like you are describing centrifugal force.

  • @JeffSG71
    @JeffSG71 Рік тому +2

    Great instruction as always. I took 4 tries started with a.14 finished with .09 . Crazy fast. Couldn’t get .08

  • @kennethgrinspun521
    @kennethgrinspun521 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! Incredibly simple. I always felt something important Happened at the place of max handspeed but couldn’t figure it out. A few hits with this thought and My swing improved immediately.
    Please take it down before my friends see it.

  • @filfalcongolf
    @filfalcongolf Місяць тому

    Great video as always! For the viewers... If you have trouble understanding this concept you can see this in action with Cameron Young, Ernie Else and Fred Couple very clearly. An exaggeration would be Matsuyama, in his case it was a drill that was incorporated into his swing.

  • @djhunt77
    @djhunt77 7 місяців тому

    I would love for you to put what you talked about in this video into perspective with shaft flex during the downswing. If the hands reach max speed a bit too early or too late, how much does that actually affect the club getting square at impact? I presume a stiffer shaft provides a larger margin for error in this regard? Thx!!

  • @michaelparsons541
    @michaelparsons541 Рік тому

    Hey Shaun (sp) & Mike,
    Do you have a video on backswing hip turn? I see some guys seem to have minimal hip rotation in the backswing, while others have what seems to be a lot more. Thx

  • @legend9018
    @legend9018 Рік тому

    Awesome video. The clubhead has to out race the hands to the ball as you whip it through the hitting area

  • @johnmalpass-ty4vu
    @johnmalpass-ty4vu Рік тому

    Another great video.

  • @leonberkowitz8769
    @leonberkowitz8769 9 місяців тому

    Hi guys starting to really follow you now and enjoying your videos immensely. My question is can you feel a pause at the top before transitioning into the downswing? I find I’m fairly quick into the backswing but sometimes fail to complete it before coming down . Cheers Leon

  • @babutler83
    @babutler83 Рік тому

    I got 0.13 petty consistently... Might have been my stopwatch app not making lower numbers available though.
    I had a question about wrist angles at address that I couldn't find being addressed in a previous video... Specifically the amount of radial or ulnar deviation that you guys see amongst elite players. I'd like to know what trends you guys see as a result of being near either end of the spectrum in terms of how it might affect wrist positions throughout the swing... How it might affect arm structure throughout the swing... and if you have it available, whether any particular ball flight tendencies resulted from starting at address closer to either end of that spectrum.
    As always, I appreciate the content you guys develop for us.
    Thanks in advance.

  • @codyhoskins5167
    @codyhoskins5167 Рік тому

    Great video. Was surprised I got .08 first try but the speed is unreal.

  • @trxe420
    @trxe420 Рік тому

    I tried it 3 times. Got .11, .14, .07. This was an eye opener, I just realized that I have proper timing with my wedge shots from around 50 yards and that is probably it, but that is also my best shot and that makes sense now. I remember watching a series from Jack Nicklaus called like golf my way or something and he was saying something about releasing from the top of the back swing and how you really can't do it early enough. I think he was saying you have to add speed in the transition immediately, pretty much as you have described here. My question is, are you trying to "hit the brakes" at around P5? How do you decelerate through impact or do I have that wrong? Thanks to this video I now have something to work on, subscribing for more!

  • @duanemartin1383
    @duanemartin1383 Рік тому +4

    I actually hit .08 a couple times.
    And just like golf, it happened when I was relaxed, no tension and not trying to rush to be fast.
    Great video guys, love the computer view of the pro’s swings for the varied comparisons on positions.

    • @OzarkMountain
      @OzarkMountain Рік тому

      True. When I tensed up I got.1 and up. Relaxed I could get. 7

  • @NeverLag222
    @NeverLag222 11 місяців тому

    Always like the 'data wins' perspective of AMG.
    Really interesting....apparently I can move quickly...0.05 repeatedly, got to 0.04...but the idea that you had to begin to decelerate linearly at about hip high on way down was a revelation (I agree with earlier comments that Kwon has clued us in the need for backswing decel). Would like to see the other great speed video (Rory split hand drill or yo-yo throw) that seems to indicate this move goes lower integrated with the downswing speed timing in this. I have been working to get hand speed out of the top for what now appears to be too long.
    Related, been spending more time on Scott Lynn (Swing Catalyst) vids. This AMG appears to connect with his vertical force vector (amplitude and direction) focus - up and back off the front foot REALLY early (Drew Cooper reference). Appreciate your perspective on the cause/effect intersection between these.
    Thanks guys.

  • @mikewilliams1479
    @mikewilliams1479 Рік тому +1

    .09 was my best but mostly settled at .12. Interesting video makes me wonder at how some of the pro golfers swing compare to amateur but it also make me notice that some of the guys who do long drive do the same a bit sooner than pros

  • @jpkeating8059
    @jpkeating8059 Рік тому

    Awesome information as ever gentlemen !, Could you guys do a drill to illustrate how to achieve max hand speed in the correct spot in the downswing ? It would be much appreciated ! Thanks again 👏

    • @AthleticMotionGolf
      @AthleticMotionGolf  Рік тому +1

      We did a video on that a couple videos back 👊

    • @jpkeating8059
      @jpkeating8059 Рік тому

      @@AthleticMotionGolf great I’ll have a look thanks for that chaps and all that you do ! 🙏

    • @andycrummey6317
      @andycrummey6317 Рік тому

      You say a couple of videos back - what was the title of the video? Thanks

  • @JW-mt5mo
    @JW-mt5mo Місяць тому

    Great & helpful information. Surprising myself I actually got .08 seconds on my phone. I took a picture because I doubt I can do it again. Wish my swing was that fast.

  • @jimadams7828
    @jimadams7828 11 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @MD20-20
    @MD20-20 Рік тому +1

    Great vid as usual. I know it’s tough and time consuming but would love more longer vids. I know in the past you guys tested some on course playing vids but you may not had gotten the views to justify. Your channel has gotten a lot bigger since then. Any interest in giving it another go?

    • @AthleticMotionGolf
      @AthleticMotionGolf  Рік тому

      what would you like to see? Mike and I playing matches? Would llove to hear your thoughts

    • @MD20-20
      @MD20-20 Рік тому

      What I enjoy is a team format like 2 V 2 with some skin in the game for the winners or for the losers. Scramble, best ball, alternate shot, shamble, etc. Would be interesting is to see some of the folks behind AMG that we don’t see in vids. Maybe some subscribers could play (sorry, shameless plug). Plus there are some amazing courses around the Atlanta area. Have to have shot tracer. I know that is a ton of work for a side gig. But who knows…

  • @johnferenchak2496
    @johnferenchak2496 7 місяців тому

    I think all that you have said is true and very helpful to us, amateurs, I’m just curious how do you explain Matsuyama and Morika’s swings, seems slower than ever almost stopping at the top good subject for another video perhaps.

  • @OSP_Nonchalant
    @OSP_Nonchalant Рік тому

    hey mike and sean, long time follower of the channel here. thanks for everything you guys do!
    this video is super helpful as I’m guilty of being of the low and slow camp, so deff have something new to work on. one thing I’m curious of is, how does this apply to re-centering and the lateral bump to get stacked onto the left side? right now I feel like I separate the two, thinking “okay, now re-center THEN bump” and it’s making my timing late I think. the pro’s seem to integrate it all as one fluid motion. with that said, do they re-center slowly then bump fast? do they shift slow until they get stacked then pressure/turn fast? would be curious what the data says…
    amg all day baby!!!

  • @cjhoffmn
    @cjhoffmn 4 місяці тому

    @athleticmotiongolf - do you have any videos that detail hand speed all the way through the downswing? I’m curious where the hands start to slow down in the downswing- do they accelerate all the way to the finish position? Do they stop accelerating and maintain the achieved speed? Do the hands slow down at the bottom? I’ve tried to find an AMG video on that - but I can’t seem to find one…

    • @AthleticMotionGolf
      @AthleticMotionGolf  4 місяці тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/JdEmOgWn0do/v-deo.htmlsi=XMxwdKCYFOmvd-fn 🙂

  • @957X99
    @957X99 Рік тому

    0.08 third try!
    Besides Gears are there any other launch monitors that measure instantaneous hand and club head speed at various points of the down swing? Maybe you could show several pros' hand and club speeds at P5, P6, P7, P8. Also movement of the handle P6 to P7 would be interesting. Thanks for the great videos!

  • @stevepryor8586
    @stevepryor8586 Рік тому

    After a bit of practice I was able to do 0.10 secs repeatedly, with best 0.08. Love the video thanks

  • @xarevok
    @xarevok Рік тому +1

    Not sure if I missed it but what's mental process for starting decelarating in the backswing/downswing?
    Is it just removing all your effort and let inertia do its thing? Or do you put effort to actively decelerate your hands in either back or down swing to allow for the clubhead to accelerate/deccelerate faster?
    Thank you!

  • @user-om8gi1th5o
    @user-om8gi1th5o 8 місяців тому

    Best tip from Shaun in a "short" where he shows on the downswing the club seems like it's going to hit the right foot. It worked for me right away, but now I can't find the short.

  • @robertclary5187
    @robertclary5187 Рік тому

    I would like to know what the club head speed is at these varius locations. The speed from address to left arm parallel can't be all that fast compared with the speed coming down. In the transition after the club has slowed down, is it a left hand pulling down that creates the speed and when it reaches max hand speed does the hand speed slow down into impact.and what about the follow through

  • @rackum44
    @rackum44 Рік тому

    I have a video for you guys to do. When you watch pros in a face on swing I've noticed how defined the reverse K is in their setup and at impact,maybe you guys can do a video on that Thanks.

  • @jonchadwick1171
    @jonchadwick1171 6 місяців тому

    I've found I can swing better like what you're showing when I'm swinging a D2 swingweight as opposed to a C9. Because I can better feel the club head thru the backswing.

  • @geobrownell4945
    @geobrownell4945 11 місяців тому +1

    When the hands are at the top of the backswing what is the process to create shaft speed moving towards the ball? Most information says not to pull the hands. Could you please clarify?
    Thank you

  • @chachichochacorta8577
    @chachichochacorta8577 Рік тому

    Great video, gentlemen, as usual. I tried the stopwatch thing, but mostly got .14.
    It would be great to see you do videos about how to handle on-course trouble. For example, videos about how hit a low fade from under some trees. But, don't hit low fades from a practice mat, hit it from underneath actual trees on the course. Or how about hitting 150-yard shots from fairway bunkers. Perhaps you could ask viewers to send in their own personal worst situations they have on a course and you could replicate those situations.

    • @ag358
      @ag358 6 місяців тому

      If you bought Bobby Jones video package How i play golf, its 18 short lessons with Hollywood stars of the time. He has a segment of having to hit a weekend golfer's tee shot. He's in all sort of trouble even having to extract a ball in shallow creek water with a club that was basically a nine iron. Entertaining and informative plus one of the greatest players in history. O.b. keeler said in the entire series every shot was done in one take including chipping the ball in the cup because of the stymy rule( you couldn't lift,clean and place your ball on the green).

    • @chachichochacorta8577
      @chachichochacorta8577 6 місяців тому

      @@ag358 Yes, I've seen the entire series back when the Golf Channel actually put up really good content in the early 2000's.
      Nonetheless, you should consider doing such videos, as a type of revival of the Bobby Jones videos. You could even dress up in knickers and a Scottish bonnet.

    • @ag358
      @ag358 6 місяців тому

      @chachichochacorta8577 Bobby jones doesn't need a revival, his place in history is sound but they do have an annual hickory tournament and many wear the outfits of yesteryear.

    • @chachichochacorta8577
      @chachichochacorta8577 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ag358 Correct. Bobby Jones' videos are well established. My point is that AMG could possibly benefit from going out into the trenches and show how these shots are produced. I've seen way too many great golf professionals teach from the studio or practice range rather than from the course.
      Addendum: I must apologize to you for insinuating in my first reply that "you should consider doing such videos." I was under the impression that you were either Mike or Shaun, or a representative from AMG.

    • @ag358
      @ag358 6 місяців тому

      @chachichochacorta8577 no worries, yes real time golf situations would be great to see. No editing.

  • @jack-hq7gr
    @jack-hq7gr 11 місяців тому +1

    Great ideas- are different systems measuring some variations of data points for back and down speed max? DeWiz data is suggesting around 8 O’clock for max down swing? Could this really matter or is the more broad based concepts more important? Love the name dropping “David always says”… David Toms….

  • @googastic
    @googastic Рік тому

    I would love to see a range session featuring Sean or Mike talking through what they are working on and giving feedback on each shot.

  • @systemoptimizer3542
    @systemoptimizer3542 Рік тому

    We know from other videos you've done (and this one) that the hands have reached Max speed and decelerate from around hip high down to impact (and beyond). Question is from the point you say the hands reach Max speed in the backswing (around abdominal level) do they start immediate deceleration from there as well, or do they maintain more of a constant speed until some point (left arm parallel perhaps) and then go from constant to decelerating to the top?

  • @jwb3034
    @jwb3034 8 місяців тому

    Your triangle coming down from the top of backswing freely by using gravity force all the way thru the ball and finishing at the end of top left if you are a right hand player. Would it be a correct swing thought?

  • @dustinwatson5673
    @dustinwatson5673 11 місяців тому

    Hi guys thanks for the video. I see how this is very applicable to a swing like Cameron Young who gets the club moving as you describe, quickly in the takeaway and slows down at the top. How would you explain the success around Hideki Matsuyama takeaway? I understand there are many ways to swing the club, just curious how he swings it so well doing the exact opposite of what you’re explaining here. Thanks 🙏

    • @AthleticMotionGolf
      @AthleticMotionGolf  10 місяців тому

      You’ll always find outliers in just about any sport.

    • @beniteztheconman
      @beniteztheconman 10 місяців тому

      Matsuyama almost stops at the top....so he does follow the pattern they describe.

  • @3rdmillenniumfuture607
    @3rdmillenniumfuture607 Рік тому

    Does this timing apply in all types of shots?
    At least the core idea of backswing starting fast then slowing then starting fast after transition.
    I experimented just focusing on this when putting and it felt great.

    • @AthleticMotionGolf
      @AthleticMotionGolf  Рік тому

      Could work in all parts of the game. It’s a natural way to swing , putt etc

  • @CoryLancasterYT
    @CoryLancasterYT Рік тому +1

    What do y'all think about the Tour Tempo 3 to 1 beat system?

  • @3dbadboy1
    @3dbadboy1 9 місяців тому

    I can totally see how what you're saying it right but what drills can be done to execute those timings?

  • @Richie3Jack
    @Richie3Jack Рік тому

    It think it should be noted that the Max hand speed in the downswing versus impact plays a big part in how a shaft company like Fujikura fits golfers for shafts using their ENSO machine. It's been years since I've been on ENSO but I remember my max hand speed in the downswing was a hair faster than JB Holmes at the time, but the hand speed was much slower at impact compared to Holmes so it was no wonder he hits it much further than I do and needs a different shaft profile. Without that slowing down of the hand speed from peak to impact shaft fitting would be much easier and more uniform across the board.

  • @diegosuarez6050
    @diegosuarez6050 Рік тому +1

    Im a 5 hcp golfer and i can honestly say I was speeding and slowing my habfd on the opposite spots you are suggesting on this video.
    Going to try this on the range tomorrow, love your channel and content, keep it up 💪.
    Greetings from Bolivia 🇧🇴

  • @mitch3745
    @mitch3745 Рік тому

    Wow really cant get faster than .10 -- great video and analogies boys!

  • @lerytke
    @lerytke 7 місяців тому

    Can you do a video on not over rotating in the back swing. i.e. not being able to see the club head in my left eye

  • @terrycoughlin823
    @terrycoughlin823 11 місяців тому

    .07; excellent info!

  • @paulc7101
    @paulc7101 Рік тому

    What's a good feel for the hands slowing down coming out of max speed in the downswing?

    • @AthleticMotionGolf
      @AthleticMotionGolf  Рік тому +1

      As long as you don't try to leave them up or drive them through impact, you shouldn't ever have to try to slow them down 👊