This is a magnificent lesson for all levels of player. If you’re struggling with ball striking efficiency and consistency make this your go to video. Apply the drills and you’ll likely fix the the issues. Thanks for the lesson!
LOVE! I have been coming from the inside ALL summer so much so my left arm was bending. No matter how hard I tried to keep it straight it was BENDING! Well it is the right arm that was getting me in trouble. Thank you. It's the best video I have seen for my issue.
Some additional advice for anyone interested: Hold the club with the clubhead at around waist height and take some practice swings as though you’re going to hit a ball off a baseball tee. Focus on the feel of how your trail arm works as you’re taking the swings, taking particular note of the manner in which it folds. Instinctively, you’d never have your trail elbow fly behind you as you take the club back because you can feel how little power you’d have as you return the club to impact, at least without some serious compensating moves (actively having to thrust your elbow back in front of your ribcage). Gradually repeat these baseball tee practice swings at progressively lower heights (more in golf posture) while retaining the same trail arm fold mechanics / feels. Finally, try hitting some shots with that same feeling. You’ll notice on video that the club should shallow out pretty naturally and that you’ll find yourself almost needing to rotate more open through impact.
I could not have said it better myself. This, quite literally, took me from around 100 to 80...and it is sooo simple. My wife is in this process-doing very much what is outlined here.
Yes, very much like a baseball swing, concentrates the power on keeping the trail arm inside close to the body, not casting the golf club. Now if you have been golfing for years it's going to take a long time to change your swing habits, because it's all muscle memory just like a pitcher or hitter in baseball.
Excellent video with great explanation and tips. Exactly where I am in my lessons, which is a massive switch from my old swing and your tips and tricks will help a lot!
This looks very interesting. Just tried it with a few practice swings and it feels different, but somehow more powerful. Combine this with your knuckles to the ground (motorcycle rev drill) and this could be quite a combo. Cannot wait to take these to the range and try them out. Thanks for sharing.
Great content JC, how do you defeat the overwhelming urge during the backswing sequence to refrain from over reaching for a little more extra width which ultimately leads to this chicken wing/ across the line habit look and feel. Whenever I subconsciously try to think about a specific body part to stay back or down in this case elbow it feels so disconnected and mechanical in nature in the joints vice like a Matt wolf flying elbow then springs back to shallow via opposite tension reaction on the downswing seems more naturally flowing. Maybe not ideal or pretty but definitely feels more easier to accomplish. Golf is hard 😂. Thanks for great content…
Great video thanks. Trying to keep the elbows a similar distance apart in the backswing has really helped me get back to good ball striking again. As you said, once this happens in the backswing, the downswing is almost automatic.
Watched it all. Very very informative. Telling point for me was inside right arm facing forward not at target, at address. Watch it ALL, drills are easy but very relevant.
Great lesson. I have somewhat limited external shoulder rotation and pull my elbow behind me while separating the elbows. My swing looks great using the Tour Striker and TRS ball. Makes me realize the excess movement in my swing. However, I can only make about 3/4 swings (likely due to broad shoulders and thick chest) and lose all power. Assuming more practice reps will eventually bring power back. Also, while it makes the swing look good, I find that trying to keep the ball between arms at setup causes right arm to straighten too much and l lose the soft bend in my right arm..
If you’ve got a shoulder injury especially with internal Rotation. You can’t get the elbow into this position. It would be better to play with half a backswing. Loved the video Thank You
I'd love your opinion and input about my shoulders as they relate to this subject: both of mine have been reconstructed, but notably the external rotation (after a frozen shoulder) of my lead/left arm/shoulder is exactly 0°. As a right-handed golfer with a left shoulder/arm that will not externally rotate; 1.) what kind of miss pattern should I expect this will create the conditions for, and; 2.) what are some ways I can deal with this limitation, outside of working with a physio, etc.? Great and trustworthy content, mate; cheers and thank you!
Good stuff! I can't wait to go out to the course tomorrow and give this a go. In the meantime I am going to go out into the garage and do some rehersal swings and try to get comfortable with what I have to do outside (when I inevitably will want to swing harder).
John this is probably my biggest problem. I used a very well known setup idea from another coach. I imagine my right arm is giving blood in my set up, I just then rotate my wrist onto the club at address without moving my arm. Brilliant 👍
@@jerezettelmann841 I tried both and then just my trail arm. Trail arm only for me works best but I would mess about with it and eliminate what doesn’t work
@@jerezettelmann841I think you want to keep the lead elbow more pointed to the target. I got tennis elbow when my lead elbow was pointing more towards me.
@middletonfinance9983 If you're still having issues, it might be due to excess hip rotation. I've made improvements just by keeping the flex in my trail knee, naturally restricting my hips from overturning. Just a thought. It's worked well for me.
Justin rose has been using this striker ball since it's come out. FYI that's what motivated me and then i used it for the girls golf team yrs. ago. comes with lanyard so u don't have to pick it up
Great video! Should you apply this for driver too or mainly only irons? + Rory or scheffler seem to have their elbow really far out in their swing. Why isnt it an issue for them?
Thanks bud! Absolutely, same for driver. Take another look at their right arm in relation to their seam line, also their elbow direction. Both exactly what I discuss in the video. This isn’t the same topic as tucking the arm in 👍🏼
@@jchowngolf Well said. Elbow away from the body creates arc width. Totally different thing. You’re describing the orientation of the right arm. 90* of bend, and 90* elbow pointed down towards the ground. Only scratch players, and pros get this correct. Everyone else looks like they’re trying to push the club to the ball, with their right arm. Good players understand how to SLING the club out at the ball. This is such an AHA moment in golf. This video is GOLD, my friend. I actually saved it, because you explained it so well.
It took me an hour of hitting 94% crap and a few pga quality shots at top golf haha to figure out maybe I should keep my right elbow in. But the two I launched felt so amazing. Once I figured out the elbow thing I was able to hit the ball ( I was literally hitting grounders) so I’m excited to build on this lol
i need this because i know i pull my right elbow behind me although i wish i could actually see my own swing in action when i do it. it almost feels like the right tricep pulling back is causing it. gonna try to turn that off if i can but it almost feels like the instinctive thing to do and it's wrong i guess, probably stems from shooting too many hockey pucks as a lad. thnx for the help.
Look at ludvig åberg. His elbow is pointing almost straight back. Trying to keep the elbow down in the back swing will not only limit your power but also your control and precision of the club. The key is to lead with the elbow down into the release as you would do in any sport where you holding something in your hands
Ludvig isn’t in a ton of internal shoulder rotation. You’re misinterpreting trail shoulder internal rotation (elbow pointing behind) and trail arm separation. You can separate your trail arm from your side without going into a ton of internal shoulder rotation, which is where we see ludvig.
@@jchowngolf his elbow is definitely behind him by a large margin. Maybe his shoulder works different than normal. But the big point here is that trying to keep your elbow down in the back swing is not good in any way
Ludwig does not have his trail elbow pointing behind, it's pointing down. But because he is young supple and has a big turn it appears like it's behind him.
No...Ludvig's elbow points down. Keeping the elbow down will help almost all golfers - as the video says just makes the entire swing more functional and helps the eliminate the problems that a steep shaft on the downswing creates.
If you can move the right shoulder into external rotation quickly like Jack, then it’s not an issue. It’s extremely rare to see an amateur get to Jack’s top of the backswing position and externally rotate the right shoulder. They normally stay internal and have steep shaft issues 👍🏼
Yep. Not to mention Jack in his day was one of the best athletes in the world. He figured it out at a very early age and had lots of help. For almost everyone else things happen too fast from the top for most players to make the large corrections before impact.
Second part of the drill is out for me 😞 no attached labrum tissue in my right shoulder so I can't stretch it like that. But the rest is excellent :) I can't get in the position, just can't exaggerate the stretch or my shoulder pops out
As a typical amateur with lots of arms involved and limited rotation with a non-stable blade through impact - keeping the elbows together - when I now try it - limits my clubhead speed, makes me feel more restricted and less free… but I guess I should continue and make the body the engine and start to build speed from the chest rotation…. comments?
If/when doing the correct movement yet it feels wrong (restricted, etc), it often means there's another swing problem as well. When having problem with a drill like this, perhaps you are not getting a good shoulder/spine rotation on the backswing. Try starting the backswing with your arms, shoulder and torso rotating back toward P1 where clubshaft is parallel to the ground. Good luck!
Isn't it amusing looking back after all these at Butch using Tiger's right elbow at the top to get him more laid off vs Hank's more one-plane approach in backswing to get to him to the same position...Tiger asked for that unprecedented punishment/swing overhaul but it must've really messed with his mind for a long time!! Anyway former high handicapper who can vouch for these drills, because they help eliminate many other variables that plague that skill level. But once you get to a certain point with Hogan's so-called magic elbow you'll discover that the *lead arm* is what really matters. And its entire path. Once you really figure the lead arm out it makes no difference whatsoever what that trail elbow is doing. For example, Jack Nicklaus. And so many others that let that elbow fly. Austin, Player, Couples, Bubba etc etc etc. Mr. Hogan, who i still think wrote the definitive holy grail on golf instruction was really emphasizing the *hips and lead arm* when discussing his magic elbow. This context seems to have been lost over the years. In easence he was saying because my *hips* are doing this and my lead arm is doing this, my right elbow is naturally delivered to its ideal position. That is the passive aspect of the swing, but only because the hips and lead arm are very active in a proper swing. Now, high handicappers do have overactive arms leading to OTT, and reducing their activity is absolutely beneficial, but turning off the lead arm and just maintaining Hogan's magic elbow will not ultimately take you to golf's promised land. I can speak from experience. The breakthrough is when you figure out how to keep your lead arm (and hand) from rotating too soon in downswing. Some disassociation of the two arms like in Jack's swing will ultimately prove liberating and rewarding. Passive arms and a focus solely on the trail elbow will trap you in a frustrating world of early release, a mysterious affliction usually unbeknownst to high handicappers, because there are soo many other compensations that are keeping it from being fully revealed...but i digress. The man to really ask is Tiger. In 2002 he was soo frustrated at having his coach alter his destination rather than his path that he did the unprecedented and fired him and completely overhauled his to arrive at a more laid off position. This game is crazy! The only common element bw the greats I've identified is head and arms at impact. Cheers!
@@josephwirtz8352 no, but I suppose I could if I truly made that part of thought process. The legend, Ben Hogan's key point is the trail elbow's position in the pre-impact P6 slot is of paramount importance *however this postion is Not produced by actively/consciously manipulating the trail arm whatsoever, but rather produced completely by the proper lower body action in the backswing and then particularly in the transition* . As a result at no point do great hitters think about that trail elbow. Hence the reason its position more than any other body part varies so much among legends of this game. It does not however vary in its p6 position. All great hitters do have trail elbows in same pre-impact slot position. But again not because they are actively putting it there. It is a secondary motion that naturally/passively goes where the primary body parts send it. *The lower body and lead arm creates the plane at which the trail elbow arrives* . The trail arm barely needs to do anything except act as a trigger and force multiplier from the top. I use my thumb for this action. Any significant use of the trail arm merely prevents the all-important lead arm from stabley releasing all the potential energy a proper swing created. The trail arm is typically the dominant arm and is the source of most of what plagues high handicappers. The more passive and relaxed you can make it the sooner you will figure out how to really compress the ball.
It can be easy but it takes a ton of hard work and dedication to make it easy. And there are so many bad golfers bc they aren't taught when they start playing golf, so then the swing has to be "fixed" and for an amateur that never plans to try to make golf more than a fun habit, they won't spend the money or time it takes to make it easy.
The UA-cam algorithm is getting scary good…i commented on a couple other channels videos how i was working on keeping my elbow(s) in and down the other day …this morning a video on keeping elbows in and down pops up at top of my feed 😮🤷🏼♂️✌️
I definitely wouldn’t advise trying to do that. The arms will be moving fast in the downswings, but that’s a byproduct of how the body moves, not so much trying to move the arms fast
Both comments are wrong. Mo Norman is recognised by the hall of fame as being the best ball striker in the history of golf. In excess of 30 holes in one and numerous other records.
I’ll answer that with another question. Do you have their skill level to make their move work? As I mentioned in a previous comment, if you can make an internally rotated shoulder at the top work and move into external in transition then great, but it’s incredibly difficult for pretty much everyone to achieve. Even for me as a professional, I would 100% not be able to achieve that. There are always gonna be outliers to everything
Everyone has different feelings through motion. If you want the simplest move in general, the elbow pointing down, helps with getting the right arm in front.
Both make a flying elbow work great. But for amateur golfers not so much. If amateurs already have a flying elbow and play (very low single digit handicap or better) then they should carry on doing what they’re doing, but if they don’t, this video outlays a far easier way to move the right elbow.
Tiger Woods wasn't the best golfer in the history of mankind, that accolade goes to Jack Nicholas! Too many millennials have their facts wrong! Do your homework before making bold claims!
Yes sir! And since we're on the subject of trail elbows interesting to note Jack has perhaps the best example of a flying right elbow. He and so many other great ball strikers for that matter paid very little attention to their trail elbow, because the lead arm is what really matters!
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This is a magnificent lesson for all levels of player. If you’re struggling with ball striking efficiency and consistency make this your go to video. Apply the drills and you’ll likely fix the the issues. Thanks for the lesson!
Butch/Tiger photo is priceless. Nunchuck drill may help my ext. rotation. Thanks.
LOVE! I have been coming from the inside ALL summer so much so my left arm was bending. No matter how hard I tried to keep it straight it was BENDING! Well it is the right arm that was getting me in trouble. Thank you. It's the best video I have seen for my issue.
Excellent vid. clearly defines the right arms role in the swing. Thanks.
Some additional advice for anyone interested:
Hold the club with the clubhead at around waist height and take some practice swings as though you’re going to hit a ball off a baseball tee. Focus on the feel of how your trail arm works as you’re taking the swings, taking particular note of the manner in which it folds.
Instinctively, you’d never have your trail elbow fly behind you as you take the club back because you can feel how little power you’d have as you return the club to impact, at least without some serious compensating moves (actively having to thrust your elbow back in front of your ribcage).
Gradually repeat these baseball tee practice swings at progressively lower heights (more in golf posture) while retaining the same trail arm fold mechanics / feels. Finally, try hitting some shots with that same feeling. You’ll notice on video that the club should shallow out pretty naturally and that you’ll find yourself almost needing to rotate more open through impact.
I could not have said it better myself. This, quite literally, took me from around 100 to 80...and it is sooo simple. My wife is in this process-doing very much what is outlined here.
Yes, very much like a baseball swing, concentrates the power on keeping the trail arm inside close to the body, not casting the golf club. Now if you have been golfing for years it's going to take a long time to change your swing habits, because it's all muscle memory just like a pitcher or hitter in baseball.
Excellent video with great explanation and tips. Exactly where I am in my lessons, which is a massive switch from my old swing and your tips and tricks will help a lot!
Excellent lesson. Applies to drivers, woods too or only irons?
I watched this and then looked at some recent videos of my swing and Wow. Can't wait to work these drills. Thank you JC
This looks very interesting. Just tried it with a few practice swings and it feels different, but somehow more powerful. Combine this with your knuckles to the ground (motorcycle rev drill) and this could be quite a combo. Cannot wait to take these to the range and try them out. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent tip.
Well outlined.
Keep up your stellar work!
Great content JC, how do you defeat the overwhelming urge during the backswing sequence to refrain from over reaching for a little more extra width which ultimately leads to this chicken wing/ across the line habit look and feel. Whenever I subconsciously try to think about a specific body part to stay back or down in this case elbow it feels so disconnected and mechanical in nature in the joints vice like a Matt wolf flying elbow then springs back to shallow via opposite tension reaction on the downswing seems more naturally flowing. Maybe not ideal or pretty but definitely feels more easier to accomplish. Golf is hard 😂. Thanks for great content…
Great video thanks. Trying to keep the elbows a similar distance apart in the backswing has really helped me get back to good ball striking again. As you said, once this happens in the backswing, the downswing is almost automatic.
Excellent explanations in simple language and great drills.
Top notch coaching
Great presentation. Easy to understand, good explanation on why and how to learn this movement.
Watched it all. Very very informative. Telling point for me was inside right arm facing forward not at target, at address. Watch it ALL, drills are easy but very relevant.
Great lesson. I have somewhat limited external shoulder rotation and pull my elbow behind me while separating the elbows. My swing looks great using the Tour Striker and TRS ball. Makes me realize the excess movement in my swing. However, I can only make about 3/4 swings (likely due to broad shoulders and thick chest) and lose all power. Assuming more practice reps will eventually bring power back. Also, while it makes the swing look good, I find that trying to keep the ball between arms at setup causes right arm to straighten too much and l lose the soft bend in my right arm..
If you’ve got a shoulder injury especially with internal Rotation. You can’t get the elbow into this position. It would be better to play with half a backswing. Loved the video Thank You
I'd love your opinion and input about my shoulders as they relate to this subject: both of mine have been reconstructed, but notably the external rotation (after a frozen shoulder) of my lead/left arm/shoulder is exactly 0°. As a right-handed golfer with a left shoulder/arm that will not externally rotate; 1.) what kind of miss pattern should I expect this will create the conditions for, and; 2.) what are some ways I can deal with this limitation, outside of working with a physio, etc.? Great and trustworthy content, mate; cheers and thank you!
Good stuff! I can't wait to go out to the course tomorrow and give this a go. In the meantime I am going to go out into the garage and do some rehersal swings and try to get comfortable with what I have to do outside (when I inevitably will want to swing harder).
Well said, similar to the towel drill. It looks like you have a decent landing area beyond the wall. Why not loose the net?
John this is probably my biggest problem. I used a very well known setup idea from another coach. I imagine my right arm is giving blood in my set up, I just then rotate my wrist onto the club at address without moving my arm. Brilliant 👍
Great thought. I am wondering if its only the right arm giving blood or both arms?
@@jerezettelmann841 I tried both and then just my trail arm. Trail arm only for me works best but I would mess about with it and eliminate what doesn’t work
@@jerezettelmann841I think you want to keep the lead elbow more pointed to the target. I got tennis elbow when my lead elbow was pointing more towards me.
This is a magical move. Made wonders to my swing
100% my problem. Not easy to fix bad habits, I will work on these. Thanks!
Best tip I've seen in 2024!
Good video. Where does the left elbow point at address? Down as well?
Love this tip John, brilliant. Will this help with me crossing the line at the top of my backswing?
Absolutely, this will great for your across the line shaft!
Will try it on the range later, tried everything to stop it crossing at the top.
@middletonfinance9983 If you're still having issues, it might be due to excess hip rotation. I've made improvements just by keeping the flex in my trail knee, naturally restricting my hips from overturning. Just a thought. It's worked well for me.
To be clear, I'm talking about the backswing.
This was it for me, great video! Thank you very much!
Great tips👈👍. Where can I buy that golf net? that looks really good to practice in my backyard.
what hitting net is this? Thanks!
thank you, that help me. more fun playing golf now.
Justin rose has been using this striker ball since it's come out. FYI that's what motivated me and then i used it for the girls golf team yrs. ago. comes with lanyard so u don't have to pick it up
Great video! Should you apply this for driver too or mainly only irons?
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Rory or scheffler seem to have their elbow really far out in their swing. Why isnt it an issue for them?
Thanks bud! Absolutely, same for driver.
Take another look at their right arm in relation to their seam line, also their elbow direction. Both exactly what I discuss in the video. This isn’t the same topic as tucking the arm in 👍🏼
@@jchowngolf Well said. Elbow away from the body creates arc width. Totally different thing. You’re describing the orientation of the right arm. 90* of bend, and 90* elbow pointed down towards the ground. Only scratch players, and pros get this correct. Everyone else looks like they’re trying to push the club to the ball, with their right arm. Good players understand how to SLING the club out at the ball. This is such an AHA moment in golf. This video is GOLD, my friend. I actually saved it, because you explained it so well.
Your videos are great! Watched a bunch. Subscribed. Thanks!
Hey mate, what is the net you are using?
It took me an hour of hitting 94% crap and a few pga quality shots at top golf haha to figure out maybe I should keep my right elbow in. But the two I launched felt so amazing.
Once I figured out the elbow thing I was able to hit the ball ( I was literally hitting grounders) so I’m excited to build on this lol
...one minute 7 seconds in and you have just described my swing - I'm watching on!!
when do u bend your right arm in the backswing? can u get the club to parallel in the backswing?
It doesn’t look that you do a full turn ( pointing the back at the target), is that intended ? Thank you.
i need this because i know i pull my right elbow behind me although i wish i could actually see my own swing in action when i do it. it almost feels like the right tricep pulling back is causing it. gonna try to turn that off if i can but it almost feels like the instinctive thing to do and it's wrong i guess, probably stems from shooting too many hockey pucks as a lad. thnx for the help.
Chown! Loving the new setup, man! ⛳️
Thanks man!
@@jchowngolf What's the new net? I like it.
Would keeping that right elbow tight into your ribs have the desired result as well?
Thank you so much John, this is exactly what i needed🙏🙏🙏
Brilliant!! You rock! New level unlocked
Well done ❤
Having the trail elbow pointing slightly forward seems impossible to do with a fairly strong grip. Any thoughts?
Definitely more than possible with all grip types. I personally do not have a strong grip and can do the movement 👍🏼
I just did the nunchuck drill and dislocated my shoulder. Is that just part of getting better? 😂
Thanks . Good video , golf season back, new year , play better.
Look at ludvig åberg. His elbow is pointing almost straight back. Trying to keep the elbow down in the back swing will not only limit your power but also your control and precision of the club. The key is to lead with the elbow down into the release as you would do in any sport where you holding something in your hands
Ludvig isn’t in a ton of internal shoulder rotation. You’re misinterpreting trail shoulder internal rotation (elbow pointing behind) and trail arm separation. You can separate your trail arm from your side without going into a ton of internal shoulder rotation, which is where we see ludvig.
@@jchowngolf his elbow is definitely behind him by a large margin. Maybe his shoulder works different than normal. But the big point here is that trying to keep your elbow down in the back swing is not good in any way
Ludwig does not have his trail elbow pointing behind, it's pointing down. But because he is young supple and has a big turn it appears like it's behind him.
@@rm00k LoL. Just do a quick search on Ludvig Åberg driver swing in slow motion and you will see the truth.
No...Ludvig's elbow points down. Keeping the elbow down will help almost all golfers - as the video says just makes the entire swing more functional and helps the eliminate the problems that a steep shaft on the downswing creates.
Great session, JC.
Excellent drills to do this move.
Cheers Ron!
Over 18 holes nobody was better than Johnny Miller, a master shotmaker
Used to be at the foundry golf club
I think that will help me but how come Jack Nicklaus used to play so well with a flying right elbow and if I recall used to encourage it
If you can move the right shoulder into external rotation quickly like Jack, then it’s not an issue. It’s extremely rare to see an amateur get to Jack’s top of the backswing position and externally rotate the right shoulder. They normally stay internal and have steep shaft issues 👍🏼
Yep. Not to mention Jack in his day was one of the best athletes in the world. He figured it out at a very early age and had lots of help. For almost everyone else things happen too fast from the top for most players to make the large corrections before impact.
Yeah, this is just what I needed thanks JC.
Second part of the drill is out for me 😞 no attached labrum tissue in my right shoulder so I can't stretch it like that. But the rest is excellent :) I can't get in the position, just can't exaggerate the stretch or my shoulder pops out
Makes sense. Great video!
Thanks bud!
Great drill. Loving it😊
This is the main flaw in my golf swing. My elbow, always gets caught in my side/stomach. Pretty positive that I have a flying elbow.
Great video thank you
Excellent. Thanks.
As a typical amateur with lots of arms involved and limited rotation with a non-stable blade through impact - keeping the elbows together - when I now try it - limits my clubhead speed, makes me feel more restricted and less free… but I guess I should continue and make the body the engine and start to build speed from the chest rotation…. comments?
If/when doing the correct movement yet it feels wrong (restricted, etc), it often means there's another swing problem as well. When having problem with a drill like this, perhaps you are not getting a good shoulder/spine rotation on the backswing. Try starting the backswing with your arms, shoulder and torso rotating back toward P1 where clubshaft is parallel to the ground. Good luck!
Isn't it amusing looking back after all these at Butch using Tiger's right elbow at the top to get him more laid off vs Hank's more one-plane approach in backswing to get to him to the same position...Tiger asked for that unprecedented punishment/swing overhaul but it must've really messed with his mind for a long time!!
Anyway former high handicapper who can vouch for these drills, because they help eliminate many other variables that plague that skill level. But once you get to a certain point with Hogan's so-called magic elbow you'll discover that the *lead arm* is what really matters. And its entire path. Once you really figure the lead arm out it makes no difference whatsoever what that trail elbow is doing. For example, Jack Nicklaus. And so many others that let that elbow fly. Austin, Player, Couples, Bubba etc etc etc.
Mr. Hogan, who i still think wrote the definitive holy grail on golf instruction was really emphasizing the *hips and lead arm* when discussing his magic elbow. This context seems to have been lost over the years. In easence he was saying because my *hips* are doing this and my lead arm is doing this, my right elbow is naturally delivered to its ideal position. That is the passive aspect of the swing, but only because the hips and lead arm are very active in a proper swing. Now, high handicappers do have overactive arms leading to OTT, and reducing their activity is absolutely beneficial, but turning off the lead arm and just maintaining Hogan's magic elbow will not ultimately take you to golf's promised land. I can speak from experience. The breakthrough is when you figure out how to keep your lead arm (and hand) from rotating too soon in downswing. Some disassociation of the two arms like in Jack's swing will ultimately prove liberating and rewarding. Passive arms and a focus solely on the trail elbow will trap you in a frustrating world of early release, a mysterious affliction usually unbeknownst to high handicappers, because there are soo many other compensations that are keeping it from being fully revealed...but i digress. The man to really ask is Tiger. In 2002 he was soo frustrated at having his coach alter his destination rather than his path that he did the unprecedented and fired him and completely overhauled his to arrive at a more laid off position. This game is crazy! The only common element bw the greats I've identified is head and arms at impact. Cheers!
Are you saying you hit extremely high shots when solely focused on the trail elbow?
@@josephwirtz8352 no, but I suppose I could if I truly made that part of thought process. The legend, Ben Hogan's key point is the trail elbow's position in the pre-impact P6 slot is of paramount importance *however this postion is Not produced by actively/consciously manipulating the trail arm whatsoever, but rather produced completely by the proper lower body action in the backswing and then particularly in the transition* . As a result at no point do great hitters think about that trail elbow. Hence the reason its position more than any other body part varies so much among legends of this game. It does not however vary in its p6 position. All great hitters do have trail elbows in same pre-impact slot position. But again not because they are actively putting it there. It is a secondary motion that naturally/passively goes where the primary body parts send it. *The lower body and lead arm creates the plane at which the trail elbow arrives* . The trail arm barely needs to do anything except act as a trigger and force multiplier from the top. I use my thumb for this action. Any significant use of the trail arm merely prevents the all-important lead arm from stabley releasing all the potential energy a proper swing created. The trail arm is typically the dominant arm and is the source of most of what plagues high handicappers. The more passive and relaxed you can make it the sooner you will figure out how to really compress the ball.
It’s so simple! Vertical Drop, Horizontal Tug!
Thanks JC 👍🏼
If the golf swing was shockingly easy, there wouldn’t be so many bad golfers. It’s not easy. Good tips though.
I think alot of it is large egos that won’t let golf become a little more predictable
It can be easy but it takes a ton of hard work and dedication to make it easy. And there are so many bad golfers bc they aren't taught when they start playing golf, so then the swing has to be "fixed" and for an amateur that never plans to try to make golf more than a fun habit, they won't spend the money or time it takes to make it easy.
The trick is old school
Driving a car is easy, still a very high number of terrible drivers
Good stuff, thanks.
Well done
The UA-cam algorithm is getting scary good…i commented on a couple other channels videos how i was working on keeping my elbow(s) in and down the other day …this morning a video on keeping elbows in and down pops up at top of my feed 😮🤷🏼♂️✌️
Or maybe we have all seen your elbow on the golf course and wrote into UA-cam for help 😂
@@reddymi oh I have no doubt my chicken wing (of the past 😜) would be recognized , causing many to simply shake their heads with disbelief 🤦♂️😬✌🏻
Comment on winning the lottery a couple times and wait for the magic to happen 😂
@@strisrobith4782 nah this,power cant be used for personal gain 😜
Brilliant
Thanks Gregg!
Nicklaus is the GOAT.
Excuse me, what about Jack?😮😮😮
In my view he played is best in his early days. His back problems and bad play only came when he tried to change his swing.
"The bad golf you've been playing" ow! that hurts!
Why do we always here that the arms move their fastest at the beginning of the downswing?
I definitely wouldn’t advise trying to do that. The arms will be moving fast in the downswings, but that’s a byproduct of how the body moves, not so much trying to move the arms fast
Both comments are wrong. Mo Norman is recognised by the hall of fame as being the best ball striker in the history of golf. In excess of 30 holes in one and numerous other records.
Maybe keep a towel under your right armpit
That’s a great drill
Peter Kostis, says towel drill, is a bad idea. Read: The Inside Path To Better Golf. It's down and around.
Nice swing bro. If you know how to score it and can handle tournament pressure, you’d be able to win with that swing.
It makes the golf swing easy for you maybe.
Humm....bubba Watson, scott Scheffler, Jack Nicklaus....are you really 100% certain that this is a must know for every one ?
I’ll answer that with another question. Do you have their skill level to make their move work? As I mentioned in a previous comment, if you can make an internally rotated shoulder at the top work and move into external in transition then great, but it’s incredibly difficult for pretty much everyone to achieve. Even for me as a professional, I would 100% not be able to achieve that. There are always gonna be outliers to everything
Everyone has different feelings through motion. If you want the simplest move in general, the elbow pointing down, helps with getting the right arm in front.
Nicklaus....Daly....
Jack Nicklaus and Fred Couples called
Both make a flying elbow work great. But for amateur golfers not so much. If amateurs already have a flying elbow and play (very low single digit handicap or better) then they should carry on doing what they’re doing, but if they don’t, this video outlays a far easier way to move the right elbow.
The best was Johnny Miller over 18 holes, nobody played better
Butch Harmon ruined Tiger's swing and back. His swing was better before butch.
Creates insane lag
Hmm. Interesting. 2000 Tiger? And Jack? Hmm 🤔 you lost me on this one.
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Thanks bud!
1:41 what you say ? Lol jk
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Tiger Woods wasn't the best golfer in the history of mankind, that accolade goes to Jack Nicholas! Too many millennials have their facts wrong! Do your homework before making bold claims!
Jack has 18 major wins to tigers 15 but, tiger has 82 wins over Jack's 73
This argument will never be settled
Tiger did it against more competition. Maybe you should use your brain more that being so reductive.
Yes sir! And since we're on the subject of trail elbows interesting to note Jack has perhaps the best example of a flying right elbow. He and so many other great ball strikers for that matter paid very little attention to their trail elbow, because the lead arm is what really matters!
Ok Boomer...
Sorry you tee'd that up 😅