They say historical Palestine is from the Jordan River to the sea but Palestine was actually a massive area that included Jordan as well but no one ever argues that Jordan shouldn't exist?? It's because Israel is Jewish, they don't want to live near a Jewish state,, they anti Jewish,, a arab that moved to Palestine territory from Egypt in 1940 is considered a native Palestinian, but a Jew from Egypt who did the same thing is considered a occupier ????
It's not because of religious hatreds, everyone interviewed spoke about how there were Muslims, Christians, and Jews all living together peacefully. It's because of the system of oppression and violence. The Arab coming in 1940 comes as an equal, not as a ruler and occupier. He does not make his own ethnostate army that ethnically cleanses more and more land he claims, and he does not impoverish those already there.
@@Borjigin. The partitioned planed state of Israel being a Jewish state didn't mean for it to be Jewish only, they accepted the fact that there were many arab Muslims and Christians living there and were going to give them full rights as citizens if they wished but as history has it, arab nations invaded to destroy Israel and told arab community's to flee for safety while Israel sent messages for them to stay, and 160,000 listened and stayed, that's why there are almost 2 million arab Muslim citizens in Israel today
@@eethkoth4872 That is bad history. The archives of the IDF / Haganah and the archives of Mapam show the intention to ethnically cleanse the whole territory that would become the Jewish state, which was carried out by intimidating the Arab populations, directly attacking them, and, among other things, poisoning the wells in their villages to make them uninhabitable. Authority to deal with these Arab local populations was given to the local commanders, with pressure from the top including Ben-Gurion to fully cleanse the areas. Then, after, they fled for their safety and were forcefully pushed out, the new state of Israel passed laws preventing them from ever returning. They were not told by Arab leaders to leave. The surrounding Arab states did not want a refugee crisis on their hands, and in fact the increasing flood of fleeing refugees in the 6 months of civil war before the unilateral declaration of independence is one of the factors that pushed the Arab states to intervene. That is a myth that has been historically debunked. And even if someone temporarily and voluntarily leaves their home, that gives a state no right to steal their home and land, and no right to deny them the ability to return to the place they were born. 80% of the Arabs who lived in the territory that became Israel were ethnically cleansed. The 20% who remained lived in the areas that the Jewish forces got to last, and that resisted the hardest. The war ended before the ethnic cleansing was complete. 20% is nothing to be proud of. What other group can you think of whose era dication was 100% complete? There are still Tutsis in Rwanda; there are still Armenians in Turkey; there are still minorities all over the Balkans after the 1990s wars there; there are still Jews in Europe. See this video: ua-cam.com/video/ipT1dHU1ya4/v-deo.html
@@Borjigin. Arab nations declared war on Israel right away once they declared independence under the partition plan and Egyptian and Syrian leaders were on record stating that they issued orders for arab communities to flee and not get caught up in the in the actions of the invading arab armies, if Israel really wanted to get rid of all Arabs then they would have just like the arab nations around then, you won't find Jewish communities in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, iraq and so on, they pretty much successfully cleansed their nations of Jews, there are accounts of Israeli Arabs who's grandparents said that they were told to stay by the Israeli government
It hurts me every time someone says that Israelis have to "go back to Europe and wherever they came from". You can't turn back time (BTW this applies to Jews as well). Many new generations of Israelis are of mixed descent, where are they supposed to go? If you really want peace try to find a realistic solution! A few were mature and smart but sadly many were repeating this idea.
@@الراسخونفيالعلم-ل4ط too bad, israelis who lived there now for generations don't have homes to go back to. it doesn't mean israel is justified or palestine cannot have self determination, but mass expulsion of israeli settlers is not a good solution
The Afrikanners left South Africa. The whites left Rhodesia. The French left Algeria. The Spanish left (most of Morroco). They absolutely can leave. Europe and the Anglosphere will be tripping over themselves to virtue signal the hardest over who can get those most refugees.. like ukraine situation but on crack.
Was Palestine not a region like Scandinavia and Balkans until WWII? I’m so confused. All the history I’ve learned in Romania, in USA and researching on my own has showed me that Palestine was never a territory, nation, country, kingdom, colony, empire, etc. It was a cultural region of pilgrims, migrants and others of surrounding regions. It was a region in which The Kingdom of Israel, Assyrians, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, etc ruled. Muslims, Christians and Jews lived together. It wasn’t until WWII that people of the Palestine region wanted autonomy. So how can Palestinians kick Israelis out of a country they never had autonomy in?
'Palestine' is an exonym coined by colonial empires Greek, Roman, British to refer to one of their territories- it never described to local peoples that were there and the names they gave this land. The name was appropriated from the Filistines/ Peleset/ Pleshet- The Greek Island Sea Peoples who invaded the coast from about 3800 years ago- they inhabited 5 cities on the coast and battled with the Egyptians, Canaanites and Israelites until it is recorded in stone that the Neo Babylonian King Nebuchadnezar Ii utterly razed the 5 cities and erazed this people from history in 605 BC. Therefore modern day Arab Palestinians have no particular genetic connection to Filistines. Palestinians are Arabs connected to Egyptians, Israeli Arabs, Jordanians and Syrians who have politically configured a new splinter group of people in 1964 who are defined by their opposition to the State of Israel. The name has been appropriated many times giving a false air of established ancient status- previous to 1964 and 1948 Jews who lived on this land were called Palestinians by the British Empire that was in charge of this so named territory. 'Israel' or 'Judea'l is an endonym 'Palestine' is an exonym Names of countries-From wiki: An endonym (also known as autonym) is a common, native name for a group of people, individual person, geographical place, language or dialect, meaning that it is used inside a particular group or linguistic community to identify or designate themselves, their homeland, or their language. An exonym (also known as xenonym) is an established, non-native name for a group of people, individual person, geographical place, language or dialect, meaning that it is used primarily outside the particular place inhabited by the group or linguistic community.[1]
So you're saying: since the people living there didn't form an official state (even though it DID belong to a state, it wasn't just no-mans land) the people killed and persecuted in the Nakba have no right to get their land back?
You're both right, it feels strange and creepy because your mind is alerting you to the manipulation being employed - smiling in an attempt to look socially acceptable while saying socially unacceptable things. It's much like the typical superficial charm of the psychopath, who is convincing and dangerous.
They always smile when asked, 'what happens to the Israelis?" Either they haven't hought about it or they don't want to tell you what they really think should happen to the Jews.
Andreas Martin 7942: The ordinary Arabs Themselves, NOT at the prodding propaganda of IslamoFascist Jihadist Terrorists,but, They Themselves, want the total annihilation of The Jewish State of Israel and Jews, Christians and moderate Muslims. That's Satanic.
yeah I hate seeing zionists smile when they say "There are no innocent civilians in Gaza," or "we are fighting 'human animals'" when speaking about the genocide the IOF and Isreali state has been committing since 1948. We will look upon the ongoing nakba the same as the german atrocities between 1933-45
What terrible things did they say? Israeli settlers have literally smiled after they said they killed a Palestinian child. One smiles over the idea of freedom, the other smiles over the idea of murdering the oppressed.
They have grown up losing their loveds ones by Israeli bombs, their loved ones murdered, displaced, starvation, poverty. Ofcourse the women will be angry when they lose their children they gave birth to. They are more emotional than men and as mothers you shoudnt expect them to forgive Israel for killing their children and oppressing these people for decades.
Damn...these videos make it look like there is no hope for peace anytime soon. Such different historic narratives. It was weird how some of the people answering the question didn't want to answer it. They either were afraid of the reaction they would get or haven't thought about it.
the differance is that one side is reffering to history of 3000 years and the other takes 1500 years, like the ones before don't matter. The only reason there were Muslims in Israel while Jews came in the last 150 is because of the Arab conquests that were after the Roman conquest exiled the Jews. There is no more Roman empire, there ARE many Arab states, but 1 Jewish state is just too much I guess
she got radicalized by seeing the idf do terrible shit. my position on it is that neither side is even remotely innocent. So many on both sides get off on the idea of murdering each other. My sympathy is with the children and genuinely good innocent adults that are in the crossfire of the warmongering bigots around them. My country (U.S.A.) shouldnt be involved but people got scared of mean tweets so they elected another neocon that love laundering and embezzling public funds through wars.
@Msrojo1004 Of course she smiles. She does, because she knows it will be their problem by then - will the former Israelis accept to live in a democratic state with equal people, will they built another pure Jewish state elsewhere, or will they become terrorists? 🇵🇸 Free Palestine ☮
Sadly , I noticed a particular type of smile enter the faces of most of the folks when asked the secondary question " what will happen to the Israelis " it was a smile that said " They are gone one way or another, sooner or later, either we will military drive them into the sea , and we don't care about the impossible complexity of trying to ' send them back ' because of the vast array of countries they came from ( not to mention the ones that always lived in Israel and have mixed with the newcomers, and the fact that huge numbers of the newcomer Israelis are of multiple mixed nationality heritage, some might have Russian , Iragui, Morrocan, and Polish grandparents and might be married to someone who had a great grandmother who was born in Jerusalem in 1870. Even those offering a democratic state for both peoples know in the back of their mind that the demographics favour them and when in power they will have the whip hand and will act accordingly.What that smile means is simply " fuck them " . Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the situation on each side, nobody seeking a solution can offer annihilation of the other side as a realistic proposition that the other side would accept. The slogan seems to put the principal over any possibility of peace.
The Israeli's do the "whip in hand" thing and the "fuck them" smile these days, and they are the current aggressors (as measured by land captures, evictions, and killings)
the first girl smiling saying where they will go “its their problem” okay then under your prerogative, what is happening to you is YOUR problem, deal with it, have fun with your life.
Most of them are nervous because they can easily get in trouble it was very obvious with this guy 7:27 weird you didn't notice the tension, But you immediately assumed they are hoping for a bigger genocide than the the holocaust which is insane
I am from the same country as Corey - Canada - and some people think Canada is not a legitimate country, that we stole the land from the indigenous people but no First Nations person would ever say that everyone except them should go back where they came from. They've been here 25 times longer than we have but the idea that we all have to go back to Europe or China or Africa is absurd just like it is absurd to expect Jews to return to Europe.
The absurd thing is for you to think that people who have been oppressed, abused and humiliated for 75 years don’t have the right to hate their abusers. And again your analogy to Canada is even more absurd, First nations persons are citizens of Canada with full rights like any other citizen it is not the same with Palestinians
@@ahmedjaad4940 So you think it makes sense to expect all the Jews - even those born in Israel - to just pack up and leave? This is the height of delusion.
@@daveg6839 you totally missed my point, I am telling you you’re in no position to judge people who have been oppressed for generations, you have no idea what they’ve been through you haven’t been in their shoes even for a second. Just so you know I am for a single democratic state where every person has equal rights but I will never judge a Palestinian who want all zionist out of the land, they have every right to hate their occupiers.
@@ahmedjaad4940 I'm afraid it is you that missed the point. This isn't about judging whether or not they have a right to hate their oppressors. This question being asked is what do you mean by "From the river to the Sea Palestine will be free". Most of the answers given here were that Palestine will be free when Palestinians regain control of the land and the Jews leave. My comment was that was absurd because it will never happen. Nothing gets solved with hatred - on either side. Palestinians and Jews have to share the land and live in peace with one another but that will never happen as long as Palestinians hold on to the ridiculous belief that all the Jews have to go back to Europe.
@@daveg6839you’re doing the same thing over and over again, no point in arguing with you, and do you genuinely believe there’s no peace because Palestinians want to jews to go back to their country? I swear I can see your westness right through your comments, you didn’t have to mention you’re from Canada I would have known you were from the “west”
The hate and close mindedness most of all. Peace will only be possible when the Palestinians stop teaching their kids from school and child tv programs to hate Jews. To stop paying families of suicide terrorists monthly salaries higher than that of a doctor. To stop naming streets after killers and handing out sweets to kids when Jews have been murdered. In Israel Jews and Arabs live perfectly fine together in peace. This alone proofs the problem does not lie within Israeli people/society
Let's look at the facts: They speak of a "Historic Palestine", that is a name given by the Roman empire to the actual historic land of Israel that existed much before the Roman empire They speak of the Arab conquest that made many huge Muslim empires without borders But Jews don't have the right to claim their historic home. Jews are not allowed to have a home, they should return to the places they were exiled to and persecuted and slaughtered in. מי נהר ועד הים בלסתין יהיה חינם תמשיכו לחלום
Jews don't have a right to claim their historic home? 😅 These white Caucasian looking ashkenazis and khazarians whose dna has been found to be from Eastern Europe? Go find ur homeland in Bulgaria or Romania or whatever. The middle Eastern Jews (i.e the canaanites belong to that land), not the blonde/ light brown hair folks that are in delusional
Palestine is a region, not a nation.Until the beginning of the 20th century, there was no such thing as a Palestinian people. Thousands of pilgrims visited the land of Israel in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. Not a single one of them saw or met a Palestinian. During the Ottoman Empire, which used to control the region, there were Muslims, Arabs, Bedouins, Christians, Jews, Druze, and Circassians. There was no period of time prior to 1948 that the Arab Palestinian population had control, authority, and ownership over what we know as Israel today. The land of Israel has been a pilgrimage destination for over 3,000 years. The ancestral people of this land are Jewish people. Start digging anywhere in this land and Jewish history is found. Jerusalem was the focal point of Jewish life for close to 1,100 years. Jerusalem was the capital city for more than 400 years during the reign of King David. Jerusalem was the capital city for five and a half centuries of the Jewish people in their land. The land before Israel and Judah was called Canaan. Arab- Israeli wars: 1948-1949, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006, and now 2023. What is going on is the lie that the land at some point in history belonged to them and that they were the rightful owners of it even though there was never a Palestinian king, nation, currency, or archaeology about a Palestinian people.
The difference is, they all had equal rights before Israel. Now they don't. The land the Arab Muslim Palestinians say was theirs was land their family owned and lived on for generations, despite who governed it. They had villages, businesses, orchards and farmland that they were forcibly evicted from against international law. Also, when the Ottomans controlled the territory, they had a millet system, which gave each religious group the authority to make their own local laws according to their religion and culture. Before the Jewish terrorist groups, such as Irgun and Lehi, began massacring Arabs and fighting the British, the people of the land lived in peace and prosperity with a majority Arab Muslim population. The Zionist movement was borne of violence, treachery, and massacre, with Palestinian Jewish terrorist groups becoming part of the foundation of Israeli government, something condemned in an open letter to the editor of New York Times in 1948 with over twenty signatures of prominent Jewish academics, among whose names you'll find Albert Einstein. The letter is long, so I will try to see if it fits in my second comment, below:
TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES: Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine. The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents. Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future. Attack on Arab Village A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9, terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants "240 men, women, and children" and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party. Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute. The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots. Discrepancies Seen The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal. In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin. The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism. (signed) ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ, HANNAH ARENDT, ABRAHAM BRICK, RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO, ALBERT EINSTEIN, HERMAN EISEN, M.D., HAYIM FINEMAN, M. GALLEN, M.D., H.H. HARRIS, ZELIG S. HARRIS, SIDNEY HOOK, FRED KARUSH, BRURIA KAUFMAN, IRMA L. LINDHEIM, NACHMAN MAISEL, SYMOUR MELMAN, MYER D. MENDELSON, M.D., HARRY M. ORLINSKY, SAMUEL PITLICK, FRITZ ROHRLICH, LOUIS P. ROCKER, RUTH SAGER, ITZHAK SANKOWSKY, I.J. SCHOENBERG, SAMUEL SHUMAN, M. ZNGER, IRMA WOLPE, STEFAN WOLPE
In addition...the proof of Israel's ownership of the land is the presence of Samaritans in Israel. During the exile of the Jews in Babylon, a group of them were allowed to stay in order to help the occupiers. These were the ones living in Samaria. In the course of time, however, the Samaritans intermarriage with the non-Jews, and probably adapted practices of the of the colonizers, which resulted in a strained relationship with the Jews. The Christian Bible in the gospel of John, tells a story of Jesus having conversation with a Samaritan woman. "4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon....12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”....25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.” 26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you-I am he.” Gospel of John 4. He told also of the story of the good samaritan -where he taught about the value of compassion to the needy regardless of race and belief. Jesus had a good heart for the Samaritans. The Jews are the descendants of Jacob and are waiting for the promised messiah. The Samaritans have the same belief. I pray that the time will come when the Samaritan-Jews and the Judeans-Israelite Jews will become again ONE people! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Its interesting how many people in the comments fail to recognize the diversity of opinions represented in this video. Somehow, Palestinians are assumed to all secretly hold the most sinister beliefs. Some say it should be a democracy, even with a Jewish majority, but somehow that isn’t good enough. One guy even distanced himself from being someone who says that phrase. People need to remember that no group of people fits into a convenient monolithic caricature.
Who wrote the Old Testament? Moses a Jew. They want modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. The way the Zionism jews believe is their god told them he would give them all of the land of Canaan. read Gen 12: This also is the way the so call evangelical Christians believe, WHO BACK THE ZIONISM. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. The boundaries of the Promised Land were from the River of Egypt (the Nile) to the Euphrates (Exodus 23:31). By the time Israel was ready to take the land, hundreds of years after Abraham, it was inhabited by pagan nations: Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites (Exodus 33:2). When it was time for the Israelites to inherit the Promised Land, God raised up Moses to bring His people out of slavery in Egypt and used Joshua to lead a military conquest of Canaan. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
These people are speaking about history when they clearly lack knowledge of the history of the land they are living in. And definitely no knowledge of biblical times. They speak from very limited knowledge base. This type of ignorance breeds hate
Don’t use a religious book to justify genocide, no one cares who owned that land 2000 years ago, what matters is who legally owned it. They are the Palestinians.
My grandparents was born in Begdad and Sidon. They were expelled by Arab Governments just because they were jews and run away to Israel only with their clothes. Israel has always strived for peace, and for peace Israelis could put the past behind. Unfortunately, i'm not sure the Palestines are able to do the same. If you look for the core issue , I think it's a moral issue - what do we teach the future generations ?
Your grandparents still lived 1500 years in iraq under Muslims without being expelled. They were only expelled after creation of israel,because they were supporting this zionism
@@Ahreman_egy all arab / muslim nations that exited their jews, most of whom were their for millenia, should give their land bank also. But since they wont, ever. They landed in another arab land and will stay there, I guess. If palestinians say its not their problem. Then their problem isnt any of the arab nations problem either. You should plead with every country from Morocco to Afghanistan to give the jewish who left by force their lands back. The two go hand in hand.
@@blayzertrayl8929 no they don't, f off with your lame Israeli arguments, as an Egyptian I with Jewish Egyptians come back from Europe and get compensation if they lost any property in the 40 and 50s, u know why? Coz Im not hypocrite like the Israelis and pro Israel Westerners, I put myself in Palestinians shoes and I know they have the right to defend their homes that Israeli illegal settlers coming from US AND UKRAINE still steal daily, paladtinians should not pay for the Europeans and arabs mistakes against their Jewish populations
Your grandparents were probably expelled after the ethnic cleansing of palestinian by zionist occured. I think after the creation of Israel, jews are seen as zionist not just in middle east, but throughout the islamic world
The woman in The pink scarf is terrifying, the glee in her eye when she describes what she wants- the death of Israel-and states exactly the truth of what the Palestinians want.
No, I thought it’s very accurate!! Especially that lady translator from the West Bank... she’s very precise in her interpreting and it’s evident she does this as a profession.
Palestine was the name used to describe a geographic area. It was never a country with citizens or leaders with Palestinian nationality. Just like we use the name European to identify people from Europe. That does not mean it is nationality or a country.
The area was first called Palestine by the Romans. The name comes from the Philistines, enemies of the Jews. They were also called Pelishti. The Romans gave this province, where the Jews lived, a new name and it was no longer called Judea, but Palestine. The Romans named it after the enemies of the Jews in order to humiliate them.
Just wanted to highlight something there is an inaccurate interpretation of your question at 2:12. You questioned is it going to be a democratic state or ISLAMIC STATE. the interpreter asked is it going to be a democratic state or RACIST state, the man answered it is going to be RACIST, racism will continue either ways.
So many of the people I have seen interviewed in Gaza are freaking experts at Double speak. They don't say what they mean with their mouths but their eyes certainly do. So does the laughter when you ask what will happen to the Israelis. And for all of those who are younger than my generation of Gen X and have never read the novel "1984" by George Orwell..... Double speak is basically lying through both sides of your mouth in every way possible.
It is very clear & I'm glad people notice; I see it too. You know exactly what they mean, but it's not a brand friendly statement so it lingers just beneath the surface. It's a shame because the Israelis aren't stupid, and so these youngsters don't even know they are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy ensuring there is no peace to be had, all the while getting to play the victim in a giant tragedy unfolding before all our eyes.
This isnt in Gaza. What youre afraid the Palestinians might do in a hypothetical impossioble situation is what Israelis are actively doing to the Palestinians yet all you care about is this scary hypothetical oyuve conjured, and thats because youre a dumb racist
It’s effing disgusting. It’s bad enough that Islam commands that Muslims genocide the Jews - which is exactly what Arab Muslims have been trying to do to the Jews of Israel for over a century - but Islam also promotes and encourages LYING to get what you want, i.e., Muslims always lie to make Islam appear better and more attractive to the naive Westerner. And then they learned from the KGB how to successfully lie to a western audience.
I wish the girl at the end understood that Jews were Canaanites. Judah and Israel were the first united kingdoms in historic Palestine. Canaanites were not a united people. Phoenicians, Israelites, Moabites, Ammonites were all Canaanites. Canaanite culture comprised of many city-states, such as Greeks had many city-states that operated independently. These people did not consider themselves to be Canaanites and those Greeks in city-states did not think of themselves as Greek; but rather Athenian or of any various city-state. Historically, at the beginning of the 10th century BCE the Canaanite territories included Judah, Israel, Damascus, Edom, Philistia, Moab, Phoenicia, and Ammon. Modern day Israel is generally within the borders of historical Judea and Israel. Philistia was within the current day borders of Gaza, and the rest of the civilizations were in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. The only Canaanites that have maintained their identity are the Jews and Samaritans. There is no mention of the Jews before the Canaanites because the Canaanites were the cultures that filled the vacuum of death and famine following the Bronze Age Collapse, nobody knows who came directly before the Canaanites, but we do know that Jews are the only ethnic Canaanites who remain tied to a culture from the Canaanite period. Palestinians are most likely also Canaanites, but do not retain memory of their ancient culture due to many circumstances. Modern genealogy has shown that a large statistic of Palestinians have Jewish ancestry -- with nothing other than that information to back a claim, I would assume that Native Palestinians were Jews who did not want to be exiled, die or pay Jizya.
Maltese are also considered to be ancestors of ancient Canaanites. They speak also a semitic language. They considered to be what is left from Carthagen's canaanites
Most Palestinians were just arabs immigrants from other neighboring countries since Ottoman and British Mandate of Palestine included modern day Jordan, part of Saudi, Syria, Iraq etc.
@@cristiano7ronaldoTHEGOAT there was intermixing but the average Palestinian Muslim is towards the same percentage Cannanite as an Ashkenazi genealogically. Between 40-60%. Palestinian Christians on the other hand are upwards of 85-90% Canaanite. Samaritans, as they don’t marry outside of the ethnicity are 100% Canaanite.
I have a lot of respect for the Palestinians who decided to do this interview. I can understand their position, given their circumstances. However, Israel is an absolutely thriving state, and it's not going away. It just isn't.
@@theastronomer5800 How can Gaza be anything when it's food and water is raioned, it's sea and land borders are under blockade. Israel is not doing them a favour with food and water, according to the UN if you are occupying, you provide . Israelis are rationing their food and water, Israel wants Hamas to be in power so they will claim they have no one to negociate with.
They want to rule all but can't even rule a tiny strip.What did the president do for them?They in serious poverty. Plus one thing they must know is jews respect their religion even though it contradicts theirs,so why can't they do the same?God of the Bible has clearly said The land is there's forever and even has prophecies after 1948,proving everything we need to know.
Free from what, is what I don't understand. Free from Hamas, for example? Free from tyranny? Free of your corrupt Pal leaders? Now that would make more sense.
Free from the shame of being defeated by Jews. I think thats why some of them smile at the idea of Jews being kicked out. Because thats what they really want. Once the Jews are out, no one will really care about Palestine.
I have a question to interview: After all the Jews have left the new Palestinian state, who will maintain the countries' present prosperity, the research institutes, hi-tech industry, hi-tech agrcultue, industrial structure - in order to make sure the country won't deteriorate into something like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq etc?
I assume Palestine will rise to a golden era like all the other countries with similar government and social structure, and it will be the new economic powerhouse the Middle East is waiting for. Although those are bad examples as Syria, Lebanon, Iraq have been recently bombed into stone age by the West. So better look at the country that didn't just get rich because of oil and might be considered as the best performing country: Turkey... that continuously restricts freedom of press and people and has inflation of >60% (September 2023) ... but its army is impressive.
@naalsocomment9449 You're assumption is not realistic. Palestine will most likely deteriorate into a broken state, like others in the region. Most certainly not a democracy with democratic values.
Moslems usually do not see it that way, so in their perspective your question is based on wrong assumptions. They believe the West is profoundly corrupt and therefore western people ar so obsessed about their well-being. They have actually forgot about the way of God. From moslem perspective God is not sort of backup player or non-existent entity from a church but main or even the only player in the ground. All moslems have to do is to submit their will to God (Islam actually mean submission, not peace like some people think) and He will do the rest. If destroyed Israel they call Palestine will flourish, fine, God is great. If it remains a pile of a rubbish, God is still great, He knows what is good for His servants and they will get their reward in paradise. Back to your question. They couldn't care less. There is no place for the enemies of Islam in this or any other land. That's the only think they care about.
I am a Yemenite Jew and a large percentage of these Palestians admit that they also originate in Yemen and the rest of the Arabian Peninusla....so I will go back if they go back too!
Arab are spread in 22 Arab countries including Yemen. They are free to go wherever they want and you may feel free to leave to Europe or any place in the world as your a Yemenite jew (not a Palestinian).
Palestine are Arabs. They speak Arabic, the religion is Islam and the culture is the same like in other Arabic countries. Why don't they go in one of these countries and live there. They are just Arabic people nothing something special about them.
Liar..if that's true, then all the world is mixed anyways. So go back.and we will have peace. Plus Arab Jew Yemeni came back after 1948, any body before lived under Palestine was free to come and live but not to invade and kill..killers and criminals and thieves need to be punished and kicked out..plus do a genetic test to see how many Palestinians are originally Arabs!! Same thing we will go for the Jews..this is insane to come after 2 thousands years to steal when Palestine existed before you came from Egypt.
I would have liked to hear the last girl finish..I also felt that the interviewer dropped his veil of impartiality and went on the defence instead of just listening.
Hi Stefani, same, I also felt that the interviewer really just wanted to hear the Palestinian people say death to all Jews, I thought Jews and Palestinians cohabited peacefully together before 1945. Thank-you and peace.
@@surality The rivalry did not begin in in 1945, but when nationalism (in the original meaning of the word) began to rise in Europe and the rest of the world. Nationalism caused all the conflicts mentioned in the video (of course the nationalism on both sides). Before the rise of Nationalism nobody thought about vague connections to ancient people in order to legitimate where they live (By the way, there is not a single reliable source that sees a connection between the modern Arabs and the Canaanite people). The recent ancestors of the people who call themselves Palestinians today just saw themselves as Arabs living in the Ottoman Empire and not as Palestinians. In the times of the Ottoman Empire Jews and Arabs could live peacefully together because neither the Arabs nor the Jews thought of themselves as "nations" or nationalities. The term "Palestine" popped up again when the region was given this name again by the British who were referring to the name of a Roman province.
@@jogav Thank-you for the insight, I hope I didn't cause offence, atleast I have a better understanding and further research based on information you've provided, peace.
CE. Hebrew is the only living Canaanite language today, having remained in continuous use by many Jews well into the Middle Ages as a liturgical language, a literary language and for commerce. It was then revived as an everyday spoken language in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and became the main language of the Jews of Palestine and later the State of Israel.
Syriac is also alive thanks to Christianity just like Hebrew is alive thanks to Judaism. In addition, the existence of the original language does not make a nation any more indigenous than others. People in the Levant where Arabized, which is why Syriac is going extent.
Ummm. An American here. Your comment seems very arrogant. So if I misread it from my cultural ignorance, please forgive me. But, why do you think the Arab people are so amazing and credit just THEM with reviving Hebrew. So sick of your arrogance. But forgive me if I'm misjudging you. @@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273
Hamas was voted in to rule the Gaza zone. Hamas used to be PLO. Palestinians voted to have terrorists rule over them, so what happened? Hamas immediately started firing rockets into Israel. Hamas did nothing for the residents, but build military installations under hospitals, and create underground tunnels to move, and hide, arms and bombs. Palestinians should not complain for being attacked now, and are hypocrites.... Now Palestinians are to blame for Israel entering Gaza not Israel. Fight fire with fire. From the river to the sea, Palestinians will always be a terrorist-based population. The two state will never work, in my opinion, unless they go back to the 1967 map to separate the two peoples. None of the surrounding countries want to house any Palestinians, due to the violence that Hamas bring with them. I am not from that area, and may be ignorant, BUT I AM VERY WELL INFORMED.
They literally started a civil war in Jordan when Jordan let them in (for the purpose of attacking Isreal) they tried to overthrow the government Black September
@@itaytal6628 in 1929 was after the 1917 Balfour decaleration when the British signed over the land to Mr Rothschild and his fellow Zionist. What's your point
It's important to know history, but it's also important to not be stuck in it. So many people just carry this baggage with them which prevents things from moving forward to a peaceful realistic solution. Talking about both sides but the way. You cant just argue over who had this land first. If that was the case we could go all the way back and fight over Africa.
Exactly people really need to learn from history rather then dwell in it. They need to start living in the here and now and focus on the reality of the situation and work to better the circumstances. 2 states is the only logical solution the deradicalization is the only way it can happen. Isreal is a nuclear armed nation with one of the most sophisticated militaries on the planet. They're not going to let their state go anywhere this "from the river to the sea" is just causing bloodshed
It truly is funny when some Palestinians tell Jews to go back home. They are home, they came back home. Jews are not from Europe or America, they are from Judea, the land where they are today. It’s Palestinians that came from other places in the Middle East and settled in this land.
If you had to kick people from their land to create your own country, then you’re in the wrong. It doesn’t matter if your ancestors lived there thousands of years ago
Im jew ,my famely from my father side 300 years lived in Tiberia of israel , from the time of Dona gracia nasi bought tiberia from the utmanins" , my famly from my mother side is 500 years in jerusalem in the jewish quarter. SINCE the expeltion of spain. So ISRAEL IS OUR HOME FOR EVER! For all the arabs I say. God bless he took the land from us and gave to you, Now he took it from you and return it go us. This is God work, you cant undone what happed. Deal with it! Every day pass more jews from all the worled came back to our fathers land.
Omar Abdullah well yeah since they theatened genocide on us were they to be successful in 1948. Isreal was legally established by the UN and expelling people that are an open clear threat to your country is totally legal under international law. That's how every country are able to voke citizenship and not allow people that they deem as a threat to national security
Omar Abdullah the mizrachi Jews on the other hand were of absolutely no threat to the Arab regime's they lived under but were still badly mistreated pillaged and then expelled with all their possessions confiscated. In Israel it's usually the mizrachi Jews and especially the older generation that dislike Palestinians more than their Ashkenazi counterpart
Palestinian nationalism is AGAINST THE QURAN: And [mention, O Muhammad], when Moses said to his people, "O my people, remember the favor of Allah [God] upon you when He appointed among you prophets and made you possessors and gave you that which He had not given anyone among the worlds. O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back and [thus] become losers." - Quran, Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:20-21.
@@sweetmelon3365 Nope, zionism only gave the jews the right for a state in the area, those lands were occupied because the arab countries attacked Israel in an attempt to destroy it
@@DemonGodAsura you need to learn history. palestinian people existed before the britishers bough in more jews, who then formed najisrael on top of palestine. According to history my ancestors used to live in spain and they were kicked out while the others butchered. imma go back and form my own country on top of spain and i expect your support
@@sweetmelon3365 Before the british there were no "palestinians" they were native arabs that were formed from tribes that came to that area called "palestine" by the romans who conquered the area and wanted to antagonize the jews who were living there, cuz palestine is derived from the word "plishtim" which were the enemies of the jewish at the time. But all this doesn't matter, the brits promised a state on british mandated palestine to both people, both israeli and palestinian, the jews respected it even tho they got 40% of the area and mainly desert, the palestinian revolted and started a war they lost thus taking full responsibility for the loss. I guess you need some history lessons my friend.
@@DemonGodAsura mann i feel sorry for you what do we call people who live in america? americans what do we cal people who live in finland? finnish what do we call people who live in turkey? turkish since you said there was a palestine before the britishers invaded, there we palestinians Thanks for accepting it . and no, i dont get to give away 40% of my neighbour's property to some homeless fellow. the brits didnt have any right to give away a land that wasnt theirs to some other people As biden proudly acclaimed, "if there want an israel, we would have to make an israel to maintain the interests of america in the middle east" , which goes to show the real reason for israel's existance and its support by nato countries
They are delusional with extremist ideology in the end if extremist in both sides fight Israel has more firepower they will end without any land bacause i want peace with 2 states but Netanyahu don´t, he only wants a Jewish state as this people
Corey, you need to be aware that translation is actually an interpretation of meaning, and therefore can really affect the answers you get. Work with translators you trust, and better yet - learn Arabic.
Yes the translation was horrible! For example, when the second person was saying that they will keep fighting until the end of the world because according to Islam the destruction of Israel will happen in the end of the world, and the translator saying they will stay connected until the end of the world because the Israelis will stay! Then he translate racist state to non-democratic state!
Yes. .. I thought that translator was not wholly neutral! She became a bit frustrated towards Corey, in my opinion. To learn the language would be a distinct advantage.
@@OmarAli-zk5my i just watched it and i heard the guy you're referring to translated as saying, more than once (i think twice) that the quoran says at the end of the world, the Jews would be eliminated, suddenly , violently, totally and fast, the translation didn't sound to me like this happened as the result of a long fought out war, but more a sudden act of allah. i would have to listen to it again but i definitely heard what you said you didn't hear. i'm not saying the translation was good, i can't judge that, i speak only English. i'm just saying, i heard the English translation saying what you said it did say.
@@OmarAli-zk5my the Quran says the final battle will be between jews and muslims and the trees and rocks will say "muslim, theres a jew behind me, come kill him..except a certain olive tree, cause that tree is a jew tree" (editorialization is mine lol )
people really need to watch what they are saying before they say it. Far too many people (especailly from western culture) are saying "free palestine" without even knowing exactly what they are supporting.
Saying "free Palestine" doesn't mean an end to Israel. Most western people who say it mean to establish a sovereign Palestine state as proposed in the original two state plan. The main reason this plan failed was that while Israel had a lot of support from the West, Palestine had no support at all from the Arab neighbours - all the Arabs who invaded Israel had their own territorial or political ambitions and opposed the creation of a sovereign Palestine state. And the Palestinian people at the time were never united enough nor had the foreign support to stand up for themselves.
as always pro palestinian suppoert knowledge of history is zero. first of all, it does, when they Palestine they mean west bank Gaza+ all of Israel. the people are saying it themselves, are you not listening?.secondly, its the jews that accpted the plan and the arabs rejected the partition plan. then all surrounding arab countries attacked israel. Israel had 0 support from the west in 1948, Israel fought its own war against Egypt, Suria, Lebanon, Transjordan and a a bunch of other arab militias and won, without a single western soldier , thank you. as 80 years ago they start a war and then cry of the results. why are you commenting not knowing the facts ffs @@pallandoromestamo8861
But the historic region of Palestine is already free, it was decolonized (Arab conquests stole it from the Jewish people) and Israel was founded. The Arabs (you call Palestinians) obviously need to be treated better, there shouldn't be any room for discrimination but... those are the people that would have let Jews be slaughtered when the surrounding Arab countries attacked the newly-formed Israel. The ones who weren't against the Jews are full citizens of Israel already. If Palestinians want to live in Arab-led nation, they can go to Jordan. It's Palestine, too.
I like these videos, thanks Corey! Something is lost in translation therefore if the person can speak English let them and get better translators for the ones who don't. Other than that, great job💜
Better you continue to keep the eye on them, and here they really don’t explain the total concept (only the first lady and she didn’t tell that means the annihilation of the jews) you can see that in many other videos in this channel. Peace
Jews fought against the Roman occupation of Judea and had their capital in Jerusalem. . Where were the Palestinians when the Romans were occupying Palestinian land and which Palestinian ruler ruled in Jerusalem?
They were also Jewish at that time, therefore they were also fighting against Roman colonizaiton. Since most Palestinians are former Jewish converts to once Orthodox Christianity and then to Sunni Islam, if you think abut it, they are actually the same ethnic group as Jews! :)
@@azulamazigh2789 no it was the international community that called Palestine the national home of the jewish people. And even if they were all converts its still their land.
Anyhow, my whole point is that Jews and Palestinians have close blood and ethnic connections, as well as the same origins. Thus, it is truly sad to see both siblings fighting each other because of human greed and insecurity!
the most Palestinians have a canaanian DNA but the most of jews are not israelis why people don't understand that judaism is a religion not nationality . what if i was a american and invented a religion and then said i want a country for my religion
Palestine should be returned to the Romans who actually built and settled it. There would be so many nice gardens, Italian food, clean streets, good coffee. Just to clarify: I don't give a dam# about either side of this conflict.
Everybody goes back to their historical homes says the woman in Arabic the language that came from Saudi Arabia not in Hebrew the language that comes from.... help me out..... Hebrew comes from where? Paris? London? Moscow? New York?
Also they claim to be Palestinians (which comes from the Hebrew word for invaders -- Greek invaders) and now they claim to be the original Canaanites but Arabs wouldn't have known of the Canananites if it wasnt for Jewish texts.
@@psalux18963 yes if they're that anti Jewish to deny the connection between all the Jewish languages (Yiddish, Ladino etc.) and Jewish names, to the Hebrew language....maybe they should move to the Caspian and only go into the Black Sea to defecate and bathe.
@@nidalomar1532 Anti-Zionism is classical anti-Semitism. Look how you're blindly accusing the Zionists of stealing land. What's next? Accusing Zionists of wars and controlling the world economy? Give me a break. And what do I expect of Palestinians? I expect the Palestinians to behave like human beings, not like Nazis. I expect the Palestinians to stand up against their antisemitic leaders. I expect the Palestinians to work with Israel not against Israel. It seems to me that you either know very little or not at all. Did you know Jews returned to Israel before Zionism was coined? In 1200 and in 1492. Did you know that the land was LEGALLY purchased by Jewish investors including the Rothchild family? Did you know that Arabs that chose to stay safely receiced Israeli citizenship? The Arabs that left did so because they were told they would return after the Jews would be wiped off after the war of Independence. How is that not antisemitism? Did you know that the Mandate of Palestine included Trans-Jordan (today's Jordan) yet no one makes a fuss to replace Jordan with Palestine. Why? Did you know about the anti-Jewish pogroms in Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon and Lybia? Classical Anti-Jewish Hate! Find a Jew from Jerusalem that wasnt for the state of Israel! I dare you. The only Jews that are against the State are a tiny group of extremists that speak Yiddish and came from Europe. Did you know that, in contrast, there are MORE Muslim Zionists than Naurei Karta? Did you know that all Druze from the Galillee, most Bedouins and plenty of Israeli Arabs join the Israeli Army to defend their country?
Im glad that this interviews are out in the open, showing the average ‚Palestinian‘ Worldview. sadly most of the world is trying to infantilize or excuse this people’s terrible thoughts. I don’t see how anyone in a free and civilized society would accept to have them as neighbors… there needs to be extensive and deep educational programs and deradicalization (similar to Germany after WW2) to change this mentality of violence and prejudice against the Israeli population.
Palestinian state: 1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state 2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
If you had to kick people from their land to create your own country, then you’re in the wrong. It doesn’t matter if your ancestors lived there thousands of years ago, or if there was ever a palestinian state.
@austin4768 The point is no Palestinian state ever existed. Firstly it is an insult to Jewish nation and entire humanity that people use such derogatory word to describe their own identity. Secondly these people need to realize that either they move away from this land, maybe time comes that some Islamic country will give them place to live, the lands into Saudi desert are vast. Or learn to live in peace within the country. If they follow hamas and terrorism path, keep self inflicting pain and own suffering to point of extinction, they will become extinct, unfortunately no other option will be given.
For everyone who gets the warm fuzzy feeling of hope from the guy at 4:25, Don't be fooled... Bethlehem (a Biblical Hebrew name btw) is the most touristic city in Judea and Samaria, as many Christians come to the city for its rich Biblical and Christian history. The livelihood of many of the residents depends upon tourism and they know exactly what to say and not to say to naive Westerners. You could see his discomfort with the question, he was practicing political correctness. Every "Palestinian" knows what "free palestine" actually means...
Well he was trying to show that not all Palestinians are extremists as there are extremists from the Zionists side who think that Isreal should take the whole land, I think the more important question is what will happen to the people and if both can live together in peace in a democratic one or two country it doesn’t really matter what you call it, the problem is that Isreal now is still making the situation worse for Palestinians and they hate it because of that, so the first thing is Isreal has to find a way to integrate the Palestinians, to give them rights and stop treatingthem differently and give them hope for freedom and future solution and after that support the peaceful movement to build a new secular society where religion doesn’t matter
It is possible he was trying to be PC but interviewer asked what it means and he gave a well thought out answer without giving his own opinion so I dont think its fair to put him in either camp based on this short interview
Why didn't you ask that last girl; What her friend's name was who was allegedly "killed for wearing a niqab" and when that supposedly happened to be able to verify her claim?
Caananites were palestines? The word palesine didn´t exist in that era.... Lots of "Palestines" are recent immigrants of a few generations from arabs countries. Arafat was born in Egypt. And lots of jews had to escape from arabs countries to save theirs lifes. So, the conflict is more arabs-jews, than palestines- israelies. It is clear that "From River to Sea, Palestine will be Free" implies that the Jews of Israel disappear, although it does not say how, it is a dangerous ideal.
I think you've mistaken the illegal self-proclaimed ''Jewish'' illegal immigrants coming from Poland, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania etc for Palestinians. You don't belong to the region, you're intruders, colonists that were dumped into the region by British colonialism. Keep lying.
@perakole Well, then you must be very happy to know that each year more and more French Jews have to flee from France thanks to growing muslim population in France and the increasing Islamic anti-semetism hst comes with it. Nothing has changed since Mohamed started killing Jews has it? Muslims even collaborated with sHitler, hence the sHitler clothing stores in Gaza. I hope you're not a hypocrite and won't complain about islamophobia when people have a problem with your attitude?
CALL IT THE DIRTY WORD IT IS GENOCIDE FUNNY OVER THE CENTURIES MANY HAVE TRIED BUT THE ARE ALL DUST NOW BUT ISRAEL STILL STANDS AND THE G-D OF ISRAEL IS KEEPING HIS WORD...
There is NO hope for a realistic resolution. One of the two populations must leave. The land is too small for both and there is too much enmity between the two.
Mark Simons Ain't that the truth. What's sad is that the Arabs have indeed suffered and continue to but they process that suffering in a very distorted way. Listening to that girl talking you can feel the pain coming through....but....she has NO concept of how to properly think of an Islamic solution. An Islamic solution would not be to eject people settled in an area. That would actually be contrary to Islamics law if I'm correct. So that was just fantasy and emotion on her part. The Arabs are not realistic as a result. They indulge in a lot of emotionalism and magical thinking but some are actually pretty pragmatic. Same as Israelis I suppose. There are Israelis who imagine they will eventually rid the land of Arabs. Ain't happening. They will fight you and die before they are made to leave.
@Son of Mountain actually jorden is also "palestine". Jordan sits on 80 percent of mandatory "palestine" which was established as a national home for the jewish people (read the mandate for "palestine"). Also the majority population of jordan are "palestinians". And most importantly the word "palestine" or "palestinians" comes from hebrew, the meaning of the word is invaders, those who have no connection to the land.
@@AereForst Nationalism is actually prohibited under Islam. If a Islamic State was established in the land we now call Israel,there wouldn't be any Palestinian or Jewish nation. It would be mixed.
Tasin Al-Hassan Except that most Arabs don't view it that way. They claim sovereignty over the land just as Jews do. Jews invoke religion to justify their claims which in and of itself, in this age, is preposterous. Arabs invoke their being settled there prior to 1948, which in modern political terms, is the more legitimate claim. Nonetheless force and power dictate everything and the winners write history so the American empire and it's Middle-Eastern proxy state continue to act as though that force will be perpetual whereas the truth is that America is a bankrupt entity wholly beholden to a cabal of powerful interests and Israel is a state that can only survive for so long before it's protector involutes under the strain of its own arrogance and corruption (that of its ruling aristocracy) and before it too has to face the karma of its actions. Better it choose wisely and act humbly yet with dignity. It has a right to exist but so does the native population. The only feasible answer is the answer none dare mention: one of these two populations must leave the area and whichever one it is to be needs to be handsomely compensated.
@@cloudofthought And Hamas had it in their founding charter. And Islam has it in their holy handbook straight from their false god's mouth. I did say *usually*, but sometimes, the hatred just can't be held inside.
This girl should realize that palestine is literally the western name for the region, it was our political territory of the roman empire. Before that it was greek. Its kaffir land, and more to the point, its western land.
That last young woman who said(paraphrasing) if this happened to anyone else, they would be in jail. Well, what she is basically describing is history. Countries are formed over and over again because some other won over the other country. BTW there are endless conflicts in the word in which those suffering in those countries have suffered way way more casualties than either the Palestinians or Israelis, yet it seems the world treats the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as the most important conflict of them all.
How come the Palestinians didn't want to be independent when they were occupied by the Turks ,so according with these people ,Jews have to claim Tokyo as their OWN capital😄,the Jews were there since Abraham ,not before '48 or after.... That land was Jewish land,They were pushed out by other nations, and Finally in 48 they managed to get back part of that land,this not theory, dreams and etc. This is the reality ,some people are saying that they were helped by the British, Americans and so on,well if they were so smart to convince America and Britain to help them that means they are smart, dont cry ,try to be smarter than them if you can,Otherwise it's NONSENSE, just question yourself, how come was possible after 2000 years being pushed away and exterminated to became alive as a state, probably its God's plan . At least this is what the Bible says, regardless of what you BELIVE, the fact and reality matches the actuality on the ground. Everything works according with GOD'S plan,regardless if we are aware or not of that.
@@mosheshadi6722 good thing the paragraph above does not represent facts. It easy to pick and chose information, go to certain sources that you know will support your agenda and disguise them as facts. No worries though time will tell. It's funny how he throws around "God's Plan". Is that a fact too? The things that Israel (so called Jews) and it's allies have done throughout history seems to be closer to the devil's plan. Hatred, greed, racism, filthy and destructive ideologies, pornography, corruption, no regard for any other humans life but your inner circle of "Jews". I'll give y'all one thing, definitely smart and cunning and able to infiltrate and manipulate. People will wise up though. I ask you to be objective, put aside your diehard programming for a little and really try to understand the diferrence between right and wrong, good and evil, God and the devil.
@@freemanrewired after that comment I understand that you full of hate that it's roots is in anti-Semitic propaganda all what you wrote is pure bullshit and I cant counter any single argument that you wrote. and please tell me the difference?
7:10 as an Israeli I can confirm that claim : I heard some religious guys talking about a famous event in the Torah where God says to Moses while he is on some mountain before he dies "Here is the Land I promised to you, from the sea to the river" (or something like that) and the religious guys were saying "yeah it's the Jordan river but it may be Euphrates, it makes sense, a lot of people understand it as Euphrates and not Jordan river". BTW it doesn't make any sense since the Euphrates is on the North in Iraq so "from the river to the sea" just makes a West and North border and the rest is free for interpretation.
Who wrote the Old Testament first 5 books? Moses a Jew. They want modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. The way the Zionism jews believe is their god told them he would give them all of the land of Canaan. read Gen 12: This also is the way the so call evangelical Christians believe, WHO BACK THE ZIONISM. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. The boundaries of the Promised Land were from the River of Egypt (the Nile) to the Euphrates (Exodus 23:31). By the time Israel was ready to take the land, hundreds of years after Abraham, it was inhabited by pagan nations: Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites (Exodus 33:2). When it was time for the Israelites to inherit the Promised Land, God raised up Moses to bring His people out of slavery in Egypt and used Joshua to lead a military conquest of Canaan. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
Exodus 23: 30By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land. 31And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee.
4:15 “It’s their problem.” No, actually it’s YOUR problem. These same people now want sympathy. Unfortunately there are too many in the West who don’t see this for what it is.
5:06: the guy distances himself from the chant and accepts a 2 State Solution. These are the voices that need to be heard. Not the wokey repeating the chant from the river to the sea
Stop saying "From River to Sea, Palestine will be Free." Say the real translation "From water to water, Palestine will be Arab." Way more accurate and transparent.
Only a fool with a brainwashed mind speaks like that. She even get confused and said the Ottoman is ancient history.. She also gets confused with the "Canaanite ", which is like 3000 years ago and actually Hebrew is the only Canaanite language in todays world. Only dumb people will buy her lies. Really? The IDF shot her friend for her "mask"? Come to Israel and walk the streets of Jaffa, you will see plenty of women in traditional arab clothing, and they dont get shot. The fact is that she deny any relations of the jews for this land, which is actually written in the Quran that "God gave this land to the Jews", But, unlike jewish people, its easier for the pals to make propaganda then to admit the sad truth - The jewish people belong to the land. Sad girl, probably learned from a very poor History book.
She was very knowledgeable?! She blathered on about human rights then said she supports ethnically cleansing the land from millions of Jewish men, women, and children and expelling them from their homes to lands soaked with their blood! That's who you want to have a coffee with?!
@@santalofty4917 The fast is that i dont hate you, and wont talk like you and your mates. Our wish is to end the suffer and end the war, the reason the palestinian people still suffering is only because of their poor leaders and poor choices. But for you its probably easier to say "JACOB" then face the truth - that the Jewish people are back for their homeland and that they have success in every single thing that the WHOLE ARAB WORLD FAILED TO DO.
22:24 "Most people don't even know what Palestine is" - um, you sure about that? There are hardly any other small countries on earth that are as universally known as Israel and Palestine... Anywhere on Earth you go people know about your conflict.
@@Ziad3195 fair point, though I certainly see a lot of people acknowledging and supporting the Palestinian struggle, too (myself included 🇦🇲🤝🇵🇸). It’s just frustrating for me, as an Armenian, since Israel’s close partner and ally, Azerbaijan, ethnically cleansed Nagorno Karabakh of indigenous ethnic Armenians with Israeli weapons and help just two months ago and there was hardly a reaction in the rest of the world. Yasser Arafat once said “we and the Armenians are one people” - I still believe that, and it’s even more true now. Hopefully all the action across the globe for Palestine will also shed some light on these other recent victims of Israeli drones and bombs.
@@Ziad3195 Yes, it's shameful. Below is some info for you. The Azeri regime has even strengthened relations with Israel over the past week. "Azerbaijan and Israel are close military partners. According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), more than 60% of Azerbaijani weapons imports came from Israel between 2017 and 2020, making up 13% of Israeli exports during the same period." [1] "In the aftermath of the October 7 Hamas mega-terrorist attack on Israel and the ensuing Gaza war, which jeopardizes the Abraham Accords, a groundbreaking energy deal between Azerbaijan, a secular Shia-Muslim majority nation, and Israel just took place. Azerbaijan’s state-owned SOCAR company will explore the area in the Mediterranean north of the giant Leviathan field." [2] [1] : edition.cnn.com/2023/10/04/middleeast/azerbaijan-israel-weapons-mime-intl/index.html [2] : www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2023/11/13/israel-azerbaijan-energy-deal-strengthens-strategic-partnership/?sh=61aa205b64ee
Palestine is the region of the area, it is historical homeland of the Jews. Arabs in the region you have appropriated "Palestinian" to (remember Jews of that time were called Palestinias) is already free, but not under Arab control nor under the Islamic Sharia-law state Hamas wants for it.
israelites were already living in canaan thousands of years before christianity or islam was born. girl in purple dont know the real history. the last muslim empire that conquered jews were the ottoman. then the brits defeated the ottoman so it is now theirs to rule and decided to give a portion of the land to the jews who have historic and ancestral rights to that land. the israelis agreed with the small land they were given but arab muslims waged war. they lost so they also lost land.
the last girl said the land is for canaanites. so good. we should sack everyone and leave it to the canaanites and if there is no canaanites left then its free land now occupied by israel. america is not going to leave for the indigenous. almost every country now is living on lands previously not theirs. too late. we moved on from fighting for land. leave in peace is what matters now.
@Ronie Lavon as i stated. almost every country in this world took land previously not thiers. too late, there is no returning of lands. every other country now lives in peace with the indegenous. so peace is what matters. i cant verify your claims for current lands. .. also fighting wouldnt solve since israel is stronger and has all the west support. if palestine had agree on the lands of the 90s the world would have moved on.
@Ronie Lavon hahah. you guys have been fighting israel since the 90s and they keep evacuating you. its impossible my friend. just stay peacefully with israel.
I think the solution would be to have a democratic government in which no religion is involved, like we do in western countries. Religions and politic should be separated. This is the only way all religions can live together without conflict.
Yes, and pigs will fly and donkeys' will sing. show me one "democratic" country that resembles the utopian nonsense you are professing. it's a pipe dream. islam is not a religion but an ideology of rape, pillage, terrorism, subjugation and does not live in peace with any others that don't submit to islam.
Western countries are now suffering from this secular liberalism. Because they respect religious freedom, they gave the opportunity to these extremists Muslims to enter their countries. That is a big mistake. It will be very bloody in the future.
Israel isn’t a religious country. It’s a secular state. They have gay prides there. We western countries are also Christian like Israel is Jewish. Meaning our holidays are based upon Christianity and our basic laws are/were from the principles of Christianity. That’s the same in Israel. It’s in no way a religious state. That’s why the extreme Orthodox Jews live in seperate towns where they DO apply their religion into daily life (like no driving on shabat, religious clothes etc)
@@Anthony_Gx It depends what ''religious country" means to you. If you have a country that bases its existence on the promises made by a divine real estate agent, then I beg to differ. If your leader mentions God forto justify his actions then we should think harder on the nature of this state. Most interviews in the street show people who justify their Apartheid regime by stating their higher purpose as Jews. Its a fairly superstitious state if you ask me even if it tries to show to the world that it isn't.
That is NOT the solution. The goal you want to achieve can NOT be the solution. You need to find the cause that doesn't allow you to arrive to the solution. The problem is the USA. Its the single player that has boycotted all UN rulings against the Apartheid regime of Israel. US finances and sells all the weapons to Israel so neighboring Arab countries can not invade and put an end to this crime. Its the US....always.
If “river to sea” means different things to different Palestinians then they’ll never achieve that. However, it means one thing to antisemites outside of the land and that is to terrorize Jews.
It seems like Palestinians have problems with education... the last girl is pretty open to conversation, but her history knowledge isn’t good enough. The ignorance sometimes is the biggest problem.
20:49 So Palestinians are actually Canaanites that predated the Jews? But the Israelites took over Canaan in 1200 BC. Canaan and it's various peoples, like the Philistines, stopped existing as sovereign civilizations. They were absorbed by other civilizations through exile into the Babylonian Empire and then the Persian Empire. The Israelites were almost absorbed but were allowed back to rebuild. So the only unique civilization that survived with its religion intact from that area is the Jewish civilization. All the rest melded into others. The Romans conquered Judea in 63 AD. They renamed it to Palestine in 136 AD because of the Jewish Bar Kokhba revolt. Then the Muslim Arabs took over in 636, the Crusaders in 1099, the Muslim Mamluks in 1291, the Ottomans in 1517, and the British in 1918 There were skirmishes between the scattered Jewish and Arab settlements in Palestine. So there is no such thing as a Palestinian civilization or nation, only Jews, Arabs, and other nationalities living in Palestine. Arab Palestinians are a people-group created in the 1900s to counter Zionist activities in Palestine and to destroy the state of Israel which was unilaterally created by the Jews after the Arabs rejected the UNs partition plan which Jewish leaders had accepted. The whole Muslim world joined forces with the Palestinians to eradicate the Jews but were defeated in 1948, which should have been the end of the Muslim Palestinian project. Now 1.8 million non-Jews live and work within Israel's borders and, those who identify as Palestinians should learn to live in peace so they can regain the trust of their benevolent host so Israel can gradually remove security measures rightfully imposed on them. As we see from these interviews, it still seems necessary because of the racist indoctrination they receive from their Hamas brothers in Gaza.
@thisispeace101 Exactly! And that is why the Israeli gov is making sure Israel isn't only for Jews. 21% living in Israel are "Arabs", 6% "others". Please inform me of any Muslim country that even comes close. Non-Muslims have been pushed out of all of them.
If you look at the British mandate map of the middle east at the beginning of the 20th century, which was the result of the ( Sykes & Picot ) agreement for the division of the Ottoman vilayet into regions they'll colonize, you can see Palestine right there. And if you read the official Balfour letter, the British administration promised the zionist organization, that they would establish in PALESTINE (black on white) a home for Jewish people. All the negotiations that took place before and after that were based on a map that contained PALESTINE as a land with borders for Palestinians with different religious backgrounds (Jewish, Muslim, and Christian); So, before the name of Israel came up, Palestine as an entity and land were there. If you don't believe Palestinians at least believe the British, they record everything. You can find maps dating to early 19th century describing palestine. There is also a known ferman map of palestine from 1588.
@@chaymaeb373 Like I said, the Romans renamed Judea to Palestine in 136 AD so no surprise in what you're saying. Before 1100 BC, the Egyptian Merneptah Stele and earlier evidence establishes an area called Israel, north of the area called Judea which was called Judah in those days. The stele is not "black and white", it is written in stone! You know, archaeology.
@@alm5682 so a Palestinian population existed for the longest time and a kingdom called Judah existed like a thousand years ago BC, so one does not eliminate the other. There is also evidence of a population called Hyksos (related to Canaanites) in Egypt, who were exiled by a king, and those were the founders of Judah. There are other theories depending on the archeological findings. Before that, there were Phoenicians (some say, it is another name for Canaanites). And when you say Phoenicians, you need to go back to ancient Greeks. So now, Greeks should come back, exile everyone, and claim the land as theirs because they conquered it or lived in it once upon a time? If you want to base a conflict on history, you need to bring back all the players of that time, not one or two, all of them, and surely you won't be happy with the end result. You Can go back to the past endlessly, but this isn't what is going to cut it. I don't think also that denying a whole population with it is 20th generation, to prove the existence of another one is going to cut it either. This is a unique part of the earth, with a rich history of diversity, and has seen the movement of people and influences from different parts of the world. It is the crosspoint of monotheistic religions. Till 100 years ago, it was like that . and one religion can't be entitled to it alone. And whoever would like to reside in that land, should be able to respect its uniqueness.
@@chaymaeb373 You spoke truth >> "one religion can't be entitled to it alone. " Are we agreeing here? I'm not sure you realize that Israel is a multicultural, multi-religious country that you speak of. The Israeli government is trying to keep the peace between that whole variety of religions and peoples, and keep peace with their neighbors who are uni-religion countries including two Palestinian "areas" who want to genocide all Jews in Israel. 1.8 million Arabs and/or Palestinians live peacefully in their own homes in Israel. Despite certain security precautions or checkpoints, they do not want to leave Israel because their quality of life is equal or better than in any other Arab or Palestinian places outside of Israel. They are 21% of Israel's total population. A further 6% are non-Jewish. >> "Greeks should exile everyone..?" Do you mean Jews in the UN partition plan areas, should not have defended themselves from the Palestinians and the whole Arab world who crossed in to slaughter them in 1948, 1967, and 1973? The Jews won and gained the land, and then gave back huge amounts of land to secure peace and to have separation buffers against the surviving genocidal maniacs: "You go live your hate over there, away from my family and away from peace-loving Arabs and/or Palestinians and everyone here living their lives without violence inside Israel." Your narrative about exile omits facts. Palestinian leaders have always forfeited and lost their people's own homes because of hate and warmongering. A majority of the Palestinians joined in the attempted genocides and so lost everything for everyone, even for the other Palestinians who did not want to participate, but how to distinguish between the two? Very difficult.
I find it interesting that Muslim women with their hair covered are always more brutal than the men. She basically said, that Israelis must leave and worry about themselves. Not her problem. Her smile is sickening. No mercy in the situation. The men seem reasonable.
They say historical Palestine is from the Jordan River to the sea but Palestine was actually a massive area that included Jordan as well but no one ever argues that Jordan shouldn't exist?? It's because Israel is Jewish, they don't want to live near a Jewish state,, they anti Jewish,, a arab that moved to Palestine territory from Egypt in 1940 is considered a native Palestinian, but a Jew from Egypt who did the same thing is considered a occupier ????
Muslims are anti semitic. They dont like Jews to be there, only Muslim "arabs".
It's not because of religious hatreds, everyone interviewed spoke about how there were Muslims, Christians, and Jews all living together peacefully. It's because of the system of oppression and violence. The Arab coming in 1940 comes as an equal, not as a ruler and occupier. He does not make his own ethnostate army that ethnically cleanses more and more land he claims, and he does not impoverish those already there.
@@Borjigin. The partitioned planed state of Israel being a Jewish state didn't mean for it to be Jewish only, they accepted the fact that there were many arab Muslims and Christians living there and were going to give them full rights as citizens if they wished but as history has it, arab nations invaded to destroy Israel and told arab community's to flee for safety while Israel sent messages for them to stay, and 160,000 listened and stayed, that's why there are almost 2 million arab Muslim citizens in Israel today
@@eethkoth4872 That is bad history. The archives of the IDF / Haganah and the archives of Mapam show the intention to ethnically cleanse the whole territory that would become the Jewish state, which was carried out by intimidating the Arab populations, directly attacking them, and, among other things, poisoning the wells in their villages to make them uninhabitable. Authority to deal with these Arab local populations was given to the local commanders, with pressure from the top including Ben-Gurion to fully cleanse the areas. Then, after, they fled for their safety and were forcefully pushed out, the new state of Israel passed laws preventing them from ever returning.
They were not told by Arab leaders to leave. The surrounding Arab states did not want a refugee crisis on their hands, and in fact the increasing flood of fleeing refugees in the 6 months of civil war before the unilateral declaration of independence is one of the factors that pushed the Arab states to intervene. That is a myth that has been historically debunked. And even if someone temporarily and voluntarily leaves their home, that gives a state no right to steal their home and land, and no right to deny them the ability to return to the place they were born.
80% of the Arabs who lived in the territory that became Israel were ethnically cleansed. The 20% who remained lived in the areas that the Jewish forces got to last, and that resisted the hardest. The war ended before the ethnic cleansing was complete. 20% is nothing to be proud of. What other group can you think of whose era dication was 100% complete? There are still Tutsis in Rwanda; there are still Armenians in Turkey; there are still minorities all over the Balkans after the 1990s wars there; there are still Jews in Europe.
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@@Borjigin. Arab nations declared war on Israel right away once they declared independence under the partition plan and Egyptian and Syrian leaders were on record stating that they issued orders for arab communities to flee and not get caught up in the in the actions of the invading arab armies, if Israel really wanted to get rid of all Arabs then they would have just like the arab nations around then, you won't find Jewish communities in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, iraq and so on, they pretty much successfully cleansed their nations of Jews, there are accounts of Israeli Arabs who's grandparents said that they were told to stay by the Israeli government
It hurts me every time someone says that Israelis have to "go back to Europe and wherever they came from". You can't turn back time (BTW this applies to Jews as well). Many new generations of Israelis are of mixed descent, where are they supposed to go?
If you really want peace try to find a realistic solution!
A few were mature and smart but sadly many were repeating this idea.
If you were them, lived what they suffered and still getting worse..will you forgive and will you accept living with your killer?
@@chopchop2281 Lies upon lies
@@الراسخونفيالعلم-ل4ط too bad, israelis who lived there now for generations don't have homes to go back to. it doesn't mean israel is justified or palestine cannot have self determination, but mass expulsion of israeli settlers is not a good solution
The Afrikanners left South Africa. The whites left Rhodesia. The French left Algeria. The Spanish left (most of Morroco). They absolutely can leave. Europe and the Anglosphere will be tripping over themselves to virtue signal the hardest over who can get those most refugees.. like ukraine situation but on crack.
I don't think they mean go back where they came from. I think Hamas quite clearly shows what the plan is
Was Palestine not a region like Scandinavia and Balkans until WWII? I’m so confused. All the history I’ve learned in Romania, in USA and researching on my own has showed me that Palestine was never a territory, nation, country, kingdom, colony, empire, etc. It was a cultural region of pilgrims, migrants and others of surrounding regions. It was a region in which The Kingdom of Israel, Assyrians, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, etc ruled. Muslims, Christians and Jews lived together. It wasn’t until WWII that people of the Palestine region wanted autonomy. So how can Palestinians kick Israelis out of a country they never had autonomy in?
Brain wash ed
Exactly
Facts and very well formulated
'Palestine' is an exonym coined by colonial empires Greek, Roman, British to refer to one of their territories- it never described to local peoples that were there and the names they gave this land.
The name was appropriated from the Filistines/ Peleset/ Pleshet- The Greek Island Sea Peoples who invaded the coast from about 3800 years ago- they inhabited 5 cities on the coast and battled with the Egyptians, Canaanites and Israelites until it is recorded in stone that the Neo Babylonian King Nebuchadnezar Ii utterly razed the 5 cities and erazed this people from history in 605 BC. Therefore modern day Arab Palestinians have no particular genetic connection to Filistines. Palestinians are Arabs connected to Egyptians, Israeli Arabs, Jordanians and Syrians who have politically configured a new splinter group of people in 1964 who are defined by their opposition to the State of Israel. The name has been appropriated many times giving a false air of established ancient status- previous to 1964 and 1948 Jews who lived on this land were called Palestinians by the British Empire that was in charge of this so named territory.
'Israel' or 'Judea'l is an endonym
'Palestine' is an exonym
Names of countries-From wiki:
An endonym (also known as autonym) is a common, native name for a group of people, individual person, geographical place, language or dialect, meaning that it is used inside a particular group or linguistic community to identify or designate themselves, their homeland, or their language.
An exonym (also known as xenonym) is an established, non-native name for a group of people, individual person, geographical place, language or dialect, meaning that it is used primarily outside the particular place inhabited by the group or linguistic community.[1]
So you're saying: since the people living there didn't form an official state (even though it DID belong to a state, it wasn't just no-mans land) the people killed and persecuted in the Nakba have no right to get their land back?
It is strange how people smile while they are saying terrible things...
You're both right, it feels strange and creepy because your mind is alerting you to the manipulation being employed - smiling in an attempt to look socially acceptable while saying socially unacceptable things. It's much like the typical superficial charm of the psychopath, who is convincing and dangerous.
They always smile when asked, 'what happens to the Israelis?" Either they haven't hought about it or they don't want to tell you what they really think should happen to the Jews.
Andreas Martin 7942: The ordinary Arabs Themselves, NOT at the prodding propaganda of IslamoFascist Jihadist Terrorists,but, They Themselves, want the total annihilation of The Jewish State of Israel and Jews, Christians and moderate Muslims. That's Satanic.
yeah I hate seeing zionists smile when they say "There are no innocent civilians in Gaza," or "we are fighting 'human animals'" when speaking about the genocide the IOF and Isreali state has been committing since 1948. We will look upon the ongoing nakba the same as the german atrocities between 1933-45
What terrible things did they say? Israeli settlers have literally smiled after they said they killed a Palestinian child. One smiles over the idea of freedom, the other smiles over the idea of murdering the oppressed.
I find it very salient, that in the Palestine issue, the women are often even less compromising then the men. Very worriesome.
The less one knows, the more they insist on it.
@@editfazekas3854 thats so True
That’s likely the way it is in every culture.
they are more abused, thus angrier
They have grown up losing their loveds ones by Israeli bombs, their loved ones murdered, displaced, starvation, poverty. Ofcourse the women will be angry when they lose their children they gave birth to. They are more emotional than men and as mothers you shoudnt expect them to forgive Israel for killing their children and oppressing these people for decades.
Damn...these videos make it look like there is no hope for peace anytime soon. Such different historic narratives.
It was weird how some of the people answering the question didn't want to answer it. They either were afraid of the reaction they would get or haven't thought about it.
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Look at their long history of war. Ever since Arafat invented them.
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Ok psychopath, whatever you say!
@Иосиф Виссарионович Сталин What? I don't understand.
the differance is that one side is reffering to history of 3000 years and the other takes 1500 years, like the ones before don't matter.
The only reason there were Muslims in Israel while Jews came in the last 150 is because of the Arab conquests that were after the Roman conquest exiled the Jews. There is no more Roman empire, there ARE many Arab states, but 1 Jewish state is just too much I guess
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Woman in the pink scarf, - It speaks volumes how she smiles when speaking about getting rid of Israel.
They all do.
why wouldn’t they ?
she got radicalized by seeing the idf do terrible shit.
my position on it is that neither side is even remotely innocent. So many on both sides get off on the idea of murdering each other. My sympathy is with the children and genuinely good innocent adults that are in the crossfire of the warmongering bigots around them. My country (U.S.A.) shouldnt be involved but people got scared of mean tweets so they elected another neocon that love laundering and embezzling public funds through wars.
@Msrojo1004 Of course she smiles. She does, because she knows it will be their problem by then - will the former Israelis accept to live in a democratic state with equal people, will they built another pure Jewish state elsewhere, or will they become terrorists?
🇵🇸 Free Palestine ☮
Now keep the same judgment for the Israelis who praise Israel stealing more land every year and building settlements
Sadly , I noticed a particular type of smile enter the faces of most of the folks when asked the secondary question " what will happen to the Israelis " it was a smile that said " They are gone one way or another, sooner or later, either we will military drive them into the sea , and we don't care about the impossible complexity of trying to ' send them back ' because of the vast array of countries they came from ( not to mention the ones that always lived in Israel and have mixed with the newcomers, and the fact that huge numbers of the newcomer Israelis are of multiple mixed nationality heritage, some might have Russian , Iragui, Morrocan, and Polish grandparents and might be married to someone who had a great grandmother who was born in Jerusalem in 1870. Even those offering a democratic state for both peoples know in the back of their mind that the demographics favour them and when in power they will have the whip hand and will act accordingly.What that smile means is simply " fuck them " . Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the situation on each side, nobody seeking a solution can offer annihilation of the other side as a realistic proposition that the other side would accept. The slogan seems to put the principal over any possibility of peace.
The Israeli's do the "whip in hand" thing and the "fuck them" smile these days, and they are the current aggressors (as measured by land captures, evictions, and killings)
Yep, I noticed the sneering smile too. Sadly it's mostly the younger generation
the first girl smiling saying where they will go “its their problem”
okay then under your prerogative, what is happening to you is YOUR problem, deal with it, have fun with your life.
You're talking about the average people here, but look at the likud party, they have the same slogan and they are opposed to a Palestinian state.
Most of them are nervous because they can easily get in trouble it was very obvious with this guy 7:27 weird you didn't notice the tension, But you immediately assumed they are hoping for a bigger genocide than the the holocaust which is insane
I am from the same country as Corey - Canada - and some people think Canada is not a legitimate country, that we stole the land from the indigenous people but no First Nations person would ever say that everyone except them should go back where they came from. They've been here 25 times longer than we have but the idea that we all have to go back to Europe or China or Africa is absurd just like it is absurd to expect Jews to return to Europe.
The absurd thing is for you to think that people who have been oppressed, abused and humiliated for 75 years don’t have the right to hate their abusers. And again your analogy to Canada is even more absurd, First nations persons are citizens of Canada with full rights like any other citizen it is not the same with Palestinians
@@ahmedjaad4940 So you think it makes sense to expect all the Jews - even those born in Israel - to just pack up and leave? This is the height of delusion.
@@daveg6839 you totally missed my point, I am telling you you’re in no position to judge people who have been oppressed for generations, you have no idea what they’ve been through you haven’t been in their shoes even for a second. Just so you know I am for a single democratic state where every person has equal rights but I will never judge a Palestinian who want all zionist out of the land, they have every right to hate their occupiers.
@@ahmedjaad4940 I'm afraid it is you that missed the point. This isn't about judging whether or not they have a right to hate their oppressors. This question being asked is what do you mean by "From the river to the Sea Palestine will be free". Most of the answers given here were that Palestine will be free when Palestinians regain control of the land and the Jews leave. My comment was that was absurd because it will never happen. Nothing gets solved with hatred - on either side. Palestinians and Jews have to share the land and live in peace with one another but that will never happen as long as Palestinians hold on to the ridiculous belief that all the Jews have to go back to Europe.
@@daveg6839you’re doing the same thing over and over again, no point in arguing with you, and do you genuinely believe there’s no peace because Palestinians want to jews to go back to their country? I swear I can see your westness right through your comments, you didn’t have to mention you’re from Canada I would have known you were from the “west”
Their pride will lead them to their inevitable downfall.
The hate and close mindedness most of all.
Peace will only be possible when the Palestinians stop teaching their kids from school and child tv programs to hate Jews. To stop paying families of suicide terrorists monthly salaries higher than that of a doctor. To stop naming streets after killers and handing out sweets to kids when Jews have been murdered.
In Israel Jews and Arabs live perfectly fine together in peace. This alone proofs the problem does not lie within Israeli people/society
Let's look at the facts:
They speak of a "Historic Palestine", that is a name given by the Roman empire to the actual historic land of Israel that existed much before the Roman empire
They speak of the Arab conquest that made many huge Muslim empires without borders
But Jews don't have the right to claim their historic home. Jews are not allowed to have a home, they should return to the places they were exiled to and persecuted and slaughtered in.
מי נהר ועד הים בלסתין יהיה חינם
תמשיכו לחלום
Didn’t they speak greek?
@@Byteable please tell me you're joking
Am Yisrael Chai 🤍
Jews don't have a right to claim their historic home? 😅 These white Caucasian looking ashkenazis and khazarians whose dna has been found to be from Eastern Europe?
Go find ur homeland in Bulgaria or Romania or whatever. The middle Eastern Jews (i.e the canaanites belong to that land), not the blonde/ light brown hair folks that are in delusional
Ashkenazi are not natives to Middle East.
Palestine is a region, not a nation.Until the beginning of the 20th century, there was no such thing as a Palestinian people. Thousands of pilgrims visited the land of Israel in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. Not a single one of them saw or met a Palestinian. During the Ottoman Empire, which used to control the region, there were Muslims, Arabs, Bedouins, Christians, Jews, Druze, and Circassians.
There was no period of time prior to 1948 that the Arab Palestinian population had control, authority, and ownership over what we know as Israel today. The land of Israel has been a pilgrimage destination for over 3,000 years. The ancestral people of this land are Jewish people. Start digging anywhere in this land and Jewish history is found. Jerusalem was the focal point of Jewish life for close to 1,100 years. Jerusalem was the capital city for more than 400 years during the reign of King David. Jerusalem was the capital city for five and a half centuries of the Jewish people in their land. The land before Israel and Judah was called Canaan. Arab- Israeli wars: 1948-1949, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006, and now 2023. What is going on is the lie that the land at some point in history belonged to them and that they were the rightful owners of it even though there was never a Palestinian king, nation, currency, or archaeology about a Palestinian people.
The difference is, they all had equal rights before Israel. Now they don't. The land the Arab Muslim Palestinians say was theirs was land their family owned and lived on for generations, despite who governed it. They had villages, businesses, orchards and farmland that they were forcibly evicted from against international law. Also, when the Ottomans controlled the territory, they had a millet system, which gave each religious group the authority to make their own local laws according to their religion and culture. Before the Jewish terrorist groups, such as Irgun and Lehi, began massacring Arabs and fighting the British, the people of the land lived in peace and prosperity with a majority Arab Muslim population. The Zionist movement was borne of violence, treachery, and massacre, with Palestinian Jewish terrorist groups becoming part of the foundation of Israeli government, something condemned in an open letter to the editor of New York Times in 1948 with over twenty signatures of prominent Jewish academics, among whose names you'll find Albert Einstein. The letter is long, so I will try to see if it fits in my second comment, below:
TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:
Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.
The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.
Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.
The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.
Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9, terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants "240 men, women, and children" and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.
The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.
Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.
During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.
The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.
Discrepancies Seen
The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.
In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.
The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.
(signed)
ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ, HANNAH ARENDT, ABRAHAM BRICK, RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO, ALBERT EINSTEIN, HERMAN EISEN, M.D., HAYIM FINEMAN, M. GALLEN, M.D., H.H. HARRIS, ZELIG S. HARRIS, SIDNEY HOOK, FRED KARUSH, BRURIA KAUFMAN, IRMA L. LINDHEIM, NACHMAN MAISEL, SYMOUR MELMAN, MYER D. MENDELSON, M.D., HARRY M. ORLINSKY, SAMUEL PITLICK, FRITZ ROHRLICH, LOUIS P. ROCKER, RUTH SAGER, ITZHAK SANKOWSKY, I.J. SCHOENBERG, SAMUEL SHUMAN, M. ZNGER, IRMA WOLPE, STEFAN WOLPE
In addition...the proof of Israel's ownership of the land is the presence of Samaritans in Israel. During the exile of the Jews in Babylon, a group of them were allowed to stay in order to help the occupiers. These were the ones living in Samaria. In the course of time, however, the Samaritans intermarriage with the non-Jews, and probably adapted practices of the of the colonizers, which resulted in a strained relationship with the Jews. The Christian Bible in the gospel of John, tells a story of Jesus having conversation with a Samaritan woman. "4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon....12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”....25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.” 26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you-I am he.” Gospel of John 4. He told also of the story of the good samaritan -where he taught about the value of compassion to the needy regardless of race and belief. Jesus had a good heart for the Samaritans.
The Jews are the descendants of Jacob and are waiting for the promised messiah. The Samaritans have the same belief. I pray that the time will come when the Samaritan-Jews and the Judeans-Israelite Jews will become again ONE people! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Actually not "Until the beginning of the 20th century". The birth of "Palestinian" people is 1964.
They werent just jewish groups doing that the arabs made several progroms to the jews in that time to 1929 to 1938
You want it all, you get nothing
What is it "HistoricalPalestine" ? If there is some historical palestine, the arabs do not have any connection to it.
Its interesting how many people in the comments fail to recognize the diversity of opinions represented in this video. Somehow, Palestinians are assumed to all secretly hold the most sinister beliefs. Some say it should be a democracy, even with a Jewish majority, but somehow that isn’t good enough. One guy even distanced himself from being someone who says that phrase. People need to remember that no group of people fits into a convenient monolithic caricature.
Good point.
And your opinion/insight how?
All opinions still are a one State solution thus will end in war
Well, they did elect hamas, that pulls me over to it being used in sinister way
Who wrote the Old Testament? Moses a Jew. They want modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
The way the Zionism jews believe is their god told them he would give them all of the land of Canaan. read Gen 12: This also is the way the so call evangelical Christians believe, WHO BACK THE ZIONISM. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
The boundaries of the Promised Land were from the River of Egypt (the Nile) to the Euphrates (Exodus 23:31). By the time Israel was ready to take the land, hundreds of years after Abraham, it was inhabited by pagan nations: Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites (Exodus 33:2). When it was time for the Israelites to inherit the Promised Land, God raised up Moses to bring His people out of slavery in Egypt and used Joshua to lead a military conquest of Canaan. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
These people are speaking about history when they clearly lack knowledge of the history of the land they are living in. And definitely no knowledge of biblical times. They speak from very limited knowledge base. This type of ignorance breeds hate
Don’t use a religious book to justify genocide, no one cares who owned that land 2000 years ago, what matters is who legally owned it. They are the Palestinians.
My grandparents was born in Begdad and Sidon. They were expelled by Arab Governments just because they were jews and run away to Israel only with their clothes.
Israel has always strived for peace, and for peace Israelis could put the past behind. Unfortunately, i'm not sure the Palestines are able to do the same.
If you look for the core issue , I think it's a moral issue - what do we teach the future generations ?
israel never strived for peace, you grand parents problems is not the palastinians who lost thier homes.
Your grandparents still lived 1500 years in iraq under Muslims without being expelled. They were only expelled after creation of israel,because they were supporting this zionism
@@Ahreman_egy all arab / muslim nations that exited their jews, most of whom were their for millenia, should give their land bank also. But since they wont, ever. They landed in another arab land and will stay there, I guess. If palestinians say its not their problem. Then their problem isnt any of the arab nations problem either. You should plead with every country from Morocco to Afghanistan to give the jewish who left by force their lands back. The two go hand in hand.
@@blayzertrayl8929 no they don't, f off with your lame Israeli arguments, as an Egyptian I with Jewish Egyptians come back from Europe and get compensation if they lost any property in the 40 and 50s, u know why? Coz Im not hypocrite like the Israelis and pro Israel Westerners, I put myself in Palestinians shoes and I know they have the right to defend their homes that Israeli illegal settlers coming from US AND UKRAINE still steal daily, paladtinians should not pay for the Europeans and arabs mistakes against their Jewish populations
Your grandparents were probably expelled after the ethnic cleansing of palestinian by zionist occured. I think after the creation of Israel, jews are seen as zionist not just in middle east, but throughout the islamic world
The woman in The pink scarf is terrifying, the glee in her eye when she describes what she wants- the death of Israel-and states exactly the truth of what the Palestinians want.
You need true professional translators. I myself notice that the translation isn't accurate and sometimes deceiving.
At this point, I think it's on purpose, it's clear he has an agenda in this
Boycott Israel. Support BDS! Agree. In all his videos he has a different approach and questions towards Israelis.
Give us a few examples where the translation is purposefully misleading? Back up your argument?
Nir Hakimian if you think it’s all about internet and mobile phones then YOU’RE naive
No, I thought it’s very accurate!! Especially that lady translator from the West Bank... she’s very precise in her interpreting and it’s evident she does this as a profession.
“Historical Palestine” means British mandate… a real official colony…
Palestine existed before the British. There’s alot of history.
How far back? Ottoman Empire? Should Turkey control Palestine?
Palestine was the name used to describe a geographic area. It was never a country with citizens or leaders with Palestinian nationality.
Just like we use the name European to identify people from Europe. That does not mean it is nationality or a country.
The area was first called Palestine by the Romans. The name comes from the Philistines, enemies of the Jews. They were also called Pelishti. The Romans gave this province, where the Jews lived, a new name and it was no longer called Judea, but Palestine. The Romans named it after the enemies of the Jews in order to humiliate them.
A "historic Palestine" could mean anything
The guy at 4:25 really has the right mindset. I enjoyed listening to him.
we need more people like him who truly seek peace and not war
He is very eloquent as well.
And when a person like him gets shot - all of a sudden he's Hamas.
I agree!
Yupp
Just wanted to highlight something there is an inaccurate interpretation of your question at 2:12. You questioned is it going to be a democratic state or ISLAMIC STATE. the interpreter asked is it going to be a democratic state or RACIST state, the man answered it is going to be RACIST, racism will continue either ways.
From the river to the sea Palestine will never be.
So many of the people I have seen interviewed in Gaza are freaking experts at Double speak. They don't say what they mean with their mouths but their eyes certainly do. So does the laughter when you ask what will happen to the Israelis. And for all of those who are younger than my generation of Gen X and have never read the novel "1984" by George Orwell..... Double speak is basically lying through both sides of your mouth in every way possible.
They spend way to many years with the Israelis I guess.
It is very clear & I'm glad people notice; I see it too. You know exactly what they mean, but it's not a brand friendly statement so it lingers just beneath the surface.
It's a shame because the Israelis aren't stupid, and so these youngsters don't even know they are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy ensuring there is no peace to be had, all the while getting to play the victim in a giant tragedy unfolding before all our eyes.
This isnt in Gaza. What youre afraid the Palestinians might do in a hypothetical impossioble situation is what Israelis are actively doing to the Palestinians yet all you care about is this scary hypothetical oyuve conjured, and thats because youre a dumb racist
@@hhhahahhhahhaAre you saying that Palestinians wouldn't violently expel all Jews if they had control over the region?
It’s effing disgusting. It’s bad enough that Islam commands that Muslims genocide the Jews - which is exactly what Arab Muslims have been trying to do to the Jews of Israel for over a century - but Islam also promotes and encourages LYING to get what you want, i.e., Muslims always lie to make Islam appear better and more attractive to the naive Westerner. And then they learned from the KGB how to successfully lie to a western audience.
I wish the girl at the end understood that Jews were Canaanites. Judah and Israel were the first united kingdoms in historic Palestine. Canaanites were not a united people. Phoenicians, Israelites, Moabites, Ammonites were all Canaanites. Canaanite culture comprised of many city-states, such as Greeks had many city-states that operated independently. These people did not consider themselves to be Canaanites and those Greeks in city-states did not think of themselves as Greek; but rather Athenian or of any various city-state. Historically, at the beginning of the 10th century BCE the Canaanite territories included Judah, Israel, Damascus, Edom, Philistia, Moab, Phoenicia, and Ammon. Modern day Israel is generally within the borders of historical Judea and Israel. Philistia was within the current day borders of Gaza, and the rest of the civilizations were in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. The only Canaanites that have maintained their identity are the Jews and Samaritans.
There is no mention of the Jews before the Canaanites because the Canaanites were the cultures that filled the vacuum of death and famine following the Bronze Age Collapse, nobody knows who came directly before the Canaanites, but we do know that Jews are the only ethnic Canaanites who remain tied to a culture from the Canaanite period. Palestinians are most likely also Canaanites, but do not retain memory of their ancient culture due to many circumstances.
Modern genealogy has shown that a large statistic of Palestinians have Jewish ancestry -- with nothing other than that information to back a claim, I would assume that Native Palestinians were Jews who did not want to be exiled, die or pay Jizya.
Maltese are also considered to be ancestors of ancient Canaanites. They speak also a semitic language. They considered to be what is left from Carthagen's canaanites
Most Palestinians were just arabs immigrants from other neighboring countries since Ottoman and British Mandate of Palestine included modern day Jordan, part of Saudi, Syria, Iraq etc.
@@cristiano7ronaldoTHEGOAT there was intermixing but the average Palestinian Muslim is towards the same percentage Cannanite as an Ashkenazi genealogically. Between 40-60%. Palestinian Christians on the other hand are upwards of 85-90% Canaanite. Samaritans, as they don’t marry outside of the ethnicity are 100% Canaanite.
@@igbl108 Yes because some Palestinians descended from Jews who were living in Byzantine Holy Land.
@@igbl108 Palestinian christians are Byzantine christians.
there is no palestine anymore. please just accept it. you have been defeated. it is israel now
I have a lot of respect for the Palestinians who decided to do this interview. I can understand their position, given their circumstances. However, Israel is an absolutely thriving state, and it's not going away. It just isn't.
Palestine could have been as well. Gaza for example was give 40 billion USD in international aid over the last 30 years. Hamas took most of it.
@@theastronomer5800 How can Gaza be anything when it's food and water is raioned, it's sea and land borders are under blockade. Israel is not doing them a favour with food and water, according to the UN if you are occupying, you provide . Israelis are rationing their food and water, Israel wants Hamas to be in power so they will claim they have no one to negociate with.
@@antnam4406 Gaza is not blockaded. Hamas is still able to build missiles amass money weapons and power. at the expense of it's own population.
@@LuddyVonBeatIsrael do blocked it. Do some research before you speak
They want to rule all but can't even rule a tiny strip.What did the president do for them?They in serious poverty. Plus one thing they must know is jews respect their religion even though it contradicts theirs,so why can't they do the same?God of the Bible has clearly said The land is there's forever and even has prophecies after 1948,proving everything we need to know.
Free from what, is what I don't understand. Free from Hamas, for example? Free from tyranny? Free of your corrupt Pal leaders? Now that would make more sense.
Free from the shame of being defeated by Jews. I think thats why some of them smile at the idea of Jews being kicked out. Because thats what they really want. Once the Jews are out, no one will really care about Palestine.
From River to Sea Israel is free
I have a question to interview:
After all the Jews have left the new Palestinian state, who will maintain the countries' present prosperity, the research institutes, hi-tech industry, hi-tech agrcultue, industrial structure - in order to make sure the country won't deteriorate into something like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq etc?
I assume Palestine will rise to a golden era like all the other countries with similar government and social structure, and it will be the new economic powerhouse the Middle East is waiting for.
Although those are bad examples as Syria, Lebanon, Iraq have been recently bombed into stone age by the West. So better look at the country that didn't just get rich because of oil and might be considered as the best performing country: Turkey... that continuously restricts freedom of press and people and has inflation of >60% (September 2023) ... but its army is impressive.
@naalsocomment9449 You're assumption is not realistic. Palestine will most likely deteriorate into a broken state, like others in the region. Most certainly not a democracy with democratic values.
@@naalsocomment9449 Jews are very intelligent people unlike the... 🇵🇸
Moslems usually do not see it that way, so in their perspective your question is based on wrong assumptions. They believe the West is profoundly corrupt and therefore western people ar so obsessed about their well-being. They have actually forgot about the way of God. From moslem perspective God is not sort of backup player or non-existent entity from a church but main or even the only player in the ground. All moslems have to do is to submit their will to God (Islam actually mean submission, not peace like some people think) and He will do the rest. If destroyed Israel they call Palestine will flourish, fine, God is great. If it remains a pile of a rubbish, God is still great, He knows what is good for His servants and they will get their reward in paradise. Back to your question. They couldn't care less. There is no place for the enemies of Islam in this or any other land. That's the only think they care about.
I am a Yemenite Jew and a large percentage of these Palestians admit that they also originate in Yemen and the rest of the Arabian Peninusla....so I will go back if they go back too!
Liar!
Arab are spread in 22 Arab countries including Yemen. They are free to go wherever they want and you may feel free to leave to Europe or any place in the world as your a Yemenite jew (not a Palestinian).
As I yemeni I want u far away from my country with respect it’s already bad enough with the houthis
Palestine are Arabs. They speak Arabic, the religion is Islam and the culture is the same like in other Arabic countries. Why don't they go in one of these countries and live there. They are just Arabic people nothing something special about them.
Liar..if that's true, then all the world is mixed anyways. So go back.and we will have peace.
Plus Arab Jew Yemeni came back after 1948, any body before lived under Palestine was free to come and live but not to invade and kill..killers and criminals and thieves need to be punished and kicked out..plus do a genetic test to see how many Palestinians are originally Arabs!! Same thing we will go for the Jews..this is insane to come after 2 thousands years to steal when Palestine existed before you came from Egypt.
I would have liked to hear the last girl finish..I also felt that the interviewer dropped his veil of impartiality and went on the defence instead of just listening.
Hi Stefani, same, I also felt that the interviewer really just wanted to hear the Palestinian people say death to all Jews, I thought Jews and Palestinians cohabited peacefully together before 1945. Thank-you and peace.
@@surality The rivalry did not begin in in 1945, but when nationalism (in the original meaning of the word) began to rise in Europe and the rest of the world. Nationalism caused all the conflicts mentioned in the video (of course the nationalism on both sides). Before the rise of Nationalism nobody thought about vague connections to ancient people in order to legitimate where they live (By the way, there is not a single reliable source that sees a connection between the modern Arabs and the Canaanite people). The recent ancestors of the people who call themselves Palestinians today just saw themselves as Arabs living in the Ottoman Empire and not as Palestinians. In the times of the Ottoman Empire Jews and Arabs could live peacefully together because neither the Arabs nor the Jews thought of themselves as "nations" or nationalities. The term "Palestine" popped up again when the region was given this name again by the British who were referring to the name of a Roman province.
@@jogav Thank-you for the insight, I hope I didn't cause offence, atleast I have a better understanding and further research based on information you've provided, peace.
@@jogav you are spot on akhi!! Very nicely said!
he always does that, he’s an israeli Zionist from USA
CE. Hebrew is the only living Canaanite language today, having remained in continuous use by many Jews well into the Middle Ages as a liturgical language, a literary language and for commerce. It was then revived as an everyday spoken language in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and became the main language of the Jews of Palestine and later the State of Israel.
Syriac is also alive thanks to Christianity just like Hebrew is alive thanks to Judaism. In addition, the existence of the original language does not make a nation any more indigenous than others. People in the Levant where Arabized, which is why Syriac is going extent.
The modern Hebrew language is being revived by Arabic language
It is well documented fact
Ummm. An American here. Your comment seems very arrogant. So if I misread it from my cultural ignorance, please forgive me. But, why do you think the Arab people are so amazing and credit just THEM with reviving Hebrew. So sick of your arrogance. But forgive me if I'm misjudging you. @@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273
I have studied a little of Hebrew and a little of Arabic. I can see how closely related they are, even at that level.@@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273
Didn't the Canaanites speak Palish?
Hamas was voted in to rule the Gaza zone. Hamas used to be PLO.
Palestinians voted to have terrorists rule over them, so what happened?
Hamas immediately started firing rockets into Israel.
Hamas did nothing for the residents, but build military installations under hospitals, and create underground tunnels to move, and hide, arms and bombs.
Palestinians should not complain for being attacked now, and are hypocrites....
Now Palestinians are to blame for Israel entering Gaza not Israel.
Fight fire with fire.
From the river to the sea, Palestinians will always be a terrorist-based population.
The two state will never work, in my opinion, unless they go back to the 1967 map to separate the two peoples.
None of the surrounding countries want to house any Palestinians, due to the violence that Hamas bring with them.
I am not from that area, and may be ignorant, BUT I AM VERY WELL INFORMED.
They literally started a civil war in Jordan when Jordan let them in (for the purpose of attacking Isreal) they tried to overthrow the government
Black September
So then you think a Palestinian child’s life is less important than an Israeli child’s life?
@@1981cvalentine seems like a strawman attack. what is your solution miss sensationalist?
@@1981cvalentine Yes YES YEs aafter october 7 and get a life in tunnel
I don't believe there can ever be peace over there.
When has there ever been peace over there?
Maybe when Solomon was King?
There was peace before Zionists came
^ what he said
Trust me it was very peaceful before the European settlers came and kicked people out of their homes.
@@InfiniteCuriosity1210 no it was not.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
there you go, some light reading
@@itaytal6628 in 1929 was after the 1917 Balfour decaleration when the British signed over the land to Mr Rothschild and his fellow Zionist. What's your point
It's important to know history, but it's also important to not be stuck in it. So many people just carry this baggage with them which prevents things from moving forward to a peaceful realistic solution. Talking about both sides but the way. You cant just argue over who had this land first. If that was the case we could go all the way back and fight over Africa.
Exactly people really need to learn from history rather then dwell in it. They need to start living in the here and now and focus on the reality of the situation and work to better the circumstances.
2 states is the only logical solution the deradicalization is the only way it can happen. Isreal is a nuclear armed nation with one of the most sophisticated militaries on the planet. They're not going to let their state go anywhere this "from the river to the sea" is just causing bloodshed
It truly is funny when some Palestinians tell Jews to go back home. They are home, they came back home. Jews are not from Europe or America, they are from Judea, the land where they are today. It’s Palestinians that came from other places in the Middle East and settled in this land.
If you had to kick people from their land to create your own country, then you’re in the wrong. It doesn’t matter if your ancestors lived there thousands of years ago
Exactly but u never find the jews say this.Just shows what kind god they serve.
At 22 mins 35 sec an accusation of murder.
This needs verifying.
Im jew ,my famely from my father side 300 years lived in Tiberia of israel , from the time of Dona gracia nasi bought tiberia from the utmanins" , my famly from my mother side is 500 years in jerusalem in the jewish quarter. SINCE the expeltion of spain.
So ISRAEL IS OUR HOME FOR EVER!
For all the arabs I say.
God bless he took the land from us and gave to you, Now he took it from you and return it go us.
This is God work, you cant undone what happed. Deal with it!
Every day pass more jews from all the worled came back to our fathers land.
Oh and if they are so nostalgic for the Turikish empire let them welcome the benevolent Erdogan
as their master and start taking lessons in Turkish.
They would be more happy then they are now.
@@withlove6435 they not
Mr picklehead. Do you know why the ottoman empire fell? Check it up and you'll feel very stupid for farting out that comment of yours.
@@withlove6435 lol
@@kingkunta7846 why oh brilliant moallem gul li arjook
"Go back to historical homes" yeah sure like yemen Iraq Iran Libya Egypt Syria etc will be happy to take them back
Nope, you lived under their rule.
Omar Abdullah yeah and they threw us out and stole our property
@@gedalianiasoff4021 You mean like what you did to the palestanians?
Omar Abdullah well yeah since they theatened genocide on us were they to be successful in 1948. Isreal was legally established by the UN and expelling people that are an open clear threat to your country is totally legal under international law. That's how every country are able to voke citizenship and not allow people that they deem as a threat to national security
Omar Abdullah the mizrachi Jews on the other hand were of absolutely no threat to the Arab regime's they lived under but were still badly mistreated pillaged and then expelled with all their possessions confiscated. In Israel it's usually the mizrachi Jews and especially the older generation that dislike Palestinians more than their Ashkenazi counterpart
Palestinian nationalism is AGAINST THE QURAN: And [mention, O Muhammad], when Moses said to his people, "O my people, remember the favor of Allah [God] upon you when He appointed among you prophets and made you possessors and gave you that which He had not given anyone among the worlds. O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back and [thus] become losers." - Quran, Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:20-21.
can you ask them, "what were the events that led to, the occupation by Israel of those contested lands? "
zionism?
@@sweetmelon3365 Nope, zionism only gave the jews the right for a state in the area, those lands were occupied because the arab countries attacked Israel in an attempt to destroy it
@@DemonGodAsura you need to learn history. palestinian people existed before the britishers bough in more jews, who then formed najisrael on top of palestine. According to history my ancestors used to live in spain and they were kicked out while the others butchered. imma go back and form my own country on top of spain and i expect your support
@@sweetmelon3365 Before the british there were no "palestinians" they were native arabs that were formed from tribes that came to that area called "palestine" by the romans who conquered the area and wanted to antagonize the jews who were living there, cuz palestine is derived from the word "plishtim" which were the enemies of the jewish at the time.
But all this doesn't matter, the brits promised a state on british mandated palestine to both people, both israeli and palestinian, the jews respected it even tho they got 40% of the area and mainly desert, the palestinian revolted and started a war they lost thus taking full responsibility for the loss.
I guess you need some history lessons my friend.
@@DemonGodAsura mann i feel sorry for you
what do we call people who live in america? americans
what do we cal people who live in finland? finnish
what do we call people who live in turkey? turkish
since you said there was a palestine before the britishers invaded, there we palestinians
Thanks for accepting it .
and no, i dont get to give away 40% of my neighbour's property to some homeless fellow. the brits didnt have any right to give away a land that wasnt theirs to some other people
As biden proudly acclaimed, "if there want an israel, we would have to make an israel to maintain the interests of america in the middle east" , which goes to show the real reason for israel's existance and its support by nato countries
They don't even talking about 67' borders, but before 48'.
They are delusional with extremist ideology in the end if extremist in both sides fight Israel has more firepower they will end without any land bacause i want peace with 2 states but Netanyahu don´t, he only wants a Jewish state as this people
Corey, you need to be aware that translation is actually an interpretation of meaning, and therefore can really affect the answers you get. Work with translators you trust, and better yet - learn Arabic.
Yes the translation was horrible! For example, when the second person was saying that they will keep fighting until the end of the world because according to Islam the destruction of Israel will happen in the end of the world, and the translator saying they will stay connected until the end of the world because the Israelis will stay!
Then he translate racist state to non-democratic state!
Yes. .. I thought that translator was not wholly neutral! She became a bit frustrated towards Corey, in my opinion.
To learn the language would be a distinct advantage.
@@OmarAli-zk5my i just watched it and i heard the guy you're referring to translated as saying, more than once (i think twice) that the quoran says at the end of the world, the Jews would be eliminated, suddenly , violently, totally and fast, the translation didn't sound to me like this happened as the result of a long fought out war, but more a sudden act of allah. i would have to listen to it again but i definitely heard what you said you didn't hear. i'm not saying the translation was good, i can't judge that, i speak only English. i'm just saying, i heard the English translation saying what you said it did say.
Yes, this! I'm not a native speaker or fluent but even I caught those mistranslations as well.@@OmarAli-zk5my
@@OmarAli-zk5my the Quran says the final battle will be between jews and muslims and the trees and rocks will say "muslim, theres a jew behind me, come kill him..except a certain olive tree, cause that tree is a jew tree" (editorialization is mine lol )
people really need to watch what they are saying before they say it. Far too many people (especailly from western culture) are saying "free palestine" without even knowing exactly what they are supporting.
Saying "free Palestine" doesn't mean an end to Israel. Most western people who say it mean to establish a sovereign Palestine state as proposed in the original two state plan. The main reason this plan failed was that while Israel had a lot of support from the West, Palestine had no support at all from the Arab neighbours - all the Arabs who invaded Israel had their own territorial or political ambitions and opposed the creation of a sovereign Palestine state. And the Palestinian people at the time were never united enough nor had the foreign support to stand up for themselves.
as always pro palestinian suppoert knowledge of history is zero. first of all, it does, when they Palestine they mean west bank Gaza+ all of Israel. the people are saying it themselves, are you not listening?.secondly, its the jews that accpted the plan and the arabs rejected the partition plan. then all surrounding arab countries attacked israel. Israel had 0 support from the west in 1948, Israel fought its own war against Egypt, Suria, Lebanon, Transjordan and a a bunch of other arab militias and won, without a single western soldier , thank you. as 80 years ago they start a war and then cry of the results. why are you commenting not knowing the facts ffs @@pallandoromestamo8861
But the historic region of Palestine is already free, it was decolonized (Arab conquests stole it from the Jewish people) and Israel was founded.
The Arabs (you call Palestinians) obviously need to be treated better, there shouldn't be any room for discrimination but... those are the people that would have let Jews be slaughtered when the surrounding Arab countries attacked the newly-formed Israel.
The ones who weren't against the Jews are full citizens of Israel already.
If Palestinians want to live in Arab-led nation, they can go to Jordan. It's Palestine, too.
Yeah keep draming. From the river to the see Greater Israel will be free. 😊
I like these videos, thanks Corey! Something is lost in translation therefore if the person can speak English let them and get better translators for the ones who don't. Other than that, great job💜
Interesting. Didnt know what this slogan meant before, as I never really kept an eye on these issues before.
Better you continue to keep the eye on them, and here they really don’t explain the total concept (only the first lady and she didn’t tell that means the annihilation of the jews) you can see that in many other videos in this channel. Peace
From the river to the sea Israel will always be free! 🇮🇱❤️🇮🇱❤️
Jews fought against the Roman occupation of Judea and had their capital in Jerusalem.
. Where were the Palestinians when the Romans were occupying Palestinian land and which Palestinian ruler ruled in Jerusalem?
How dare you speaking words of actual history!!!!?
You should be ashamed of this truth!! 😜
They were also Jewish at that time, therefore they were also fighting against Roman colonizaiton. Since most Palestinians are former Jewish converts to once Orthodox Christianity and then to Sunni Islam, if you think abut it, they are actually the same ethnic group as Jews! :)
the European converted to judaisim and they say Palestine is there land.
@@azulamazigh2789 no it was the international community that called Palestine the national home of the jewish people.
And even if they were all converts its still their land.
Anyhow, my whole point is that Jews and Palestinians have close blood and ethnic connections, as well as the same origins. Thus, it is truly sad to see both siblings fighting each other because of human greed and insecurity!
21:00 Jews took origin from Semitic Kanaanites, but they differentiated themselves mainly by the monotheism
the most Palestinians have a canaanian DNA but the most of jews are not israelis why people don't understand that judaism is a religion not nationality . what if i was a american and invented a religion and then said i want a country for my religion
@@VIP1G judeism is natinalty and resligion.
and most jews are cannanites, palis dont
@@SigalDa do your research
@@VIP1G what? haha =))
@@SigalDa man jews said they slaughtered the Canaanites and now you say jew are the Canaanites
Ten minutes into the episode
I can already say these people are disconnected from reality
I don't think there's hope for them unfortunately
If everyone goes back to where they came from then the palestinians need to go back to Egypt and Jordan.
Palestine should be returned to the Romans who actually built and settled it. There would be so many nice gardens, Italian food, clean streets, good coffee. Just to clarify: I don't give a dam# about either side of this conflict.
you should because Jesus your god was a jew
You could give these people 100 years and that entire piece of land and they’d still do nothing with it.
The Arab girls are so strikingly pretty, even if they misguided ❤ Shalom
"Everybody goes back to their historical homes". Batshit craziness. Utter looney tunes nonsense.
Everybody goes back to their historical homes says the woman in Arabic the language that came from Saudi Arabia not in Hebrew the language that comes from.... help me out..... Hebrew comes from where? Paris? London? Moscow? New York?
Also they claim to be Palestinians (which comes from the Hebrew word for invaders -- Greek invaders) and now they claim to be the original Canaanites but Arabs wouldn't have known of the Canananites if it wasnt for Jewish texts.
@@psalux18963 yes if they're that anti Jewish to deny the connection between all the Jewish languages (Yiddish, Ladino etc.) and Jewish names, to the Hebrew language....maybe they should move to the Caspian and only go into the Black Sea to defecate and bathe.
For Zionists, 2000 years of absence trumps 1400 years of presence.....weird?
@@nidalomar1532 Anti-Zionism is classical anti-Semitism. Look how you're blindly accusing the Zionists of stealing land. What's next? Accusing Zionists of wars and controlling the world economy? Give me a break.
And what do I expect of Palestinians? I expect the Palestinians to behave like human beings, not like Nazis. I expect the Palestinians to stand up against their antisemitic leaders. I expect the Palestinians to work with Israel not against Israel.
It seems to me that you either know very little or not at all. Did you know Jews returned to Israel before Zionism was coined? In 1200 and in 1492. Did you know that the land was LEGALLY purchased by Jewish investors including the Rothchild family? Did you know that Arabs that chose to stay safely receiced Israeli citizenship? The Arabs that left did so because they were told they would return after the Jews would be wiped off after the war of Independence. How is that not antisemitism? Did you know that the Mandate of Palestine included Trans-Jordan (today's Jordan) yet no one makes a fuss to replace Jordan with Palestine. Why? Did you know about the anti-Jewish pogroms in Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon and Lybia? Classical Anti-Jewish Hate!
Find a Jew from Jerusalem that wasnt for the state of Israel! I dare you.
The only Jews that are against the State are a tiny group of extremists that speak Yiddish and came from Europe.
Did you know that, in contrast, there are MORE Muslim Zionists than Naurei Karta?
Did you know that all Druze from the Galillee, most Bedouins and plenty of Israeli Arabs join the Israeli Army to defend their country?
Im glad that this interviews are out in the open, showing the average ‚Palestinian‘ Worldview. sadly most of the world is trying to infantilize or excuse this people’s terrible thoughts. I don’t see how anyone in a free and civilized society would accept to have them as neighbors… there needs to be extensive and deep educational programs and deradicalization (similar to Germany after WW2) to change this mentality of violence and prejudice against the Israeli population.
Palestinian state:
1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
What's your point?
Facts 👏🏽👏🏽
@@MaryamofShomal Yes, these are facts. Either of you care to state the conclusion that you believe follows from them?
If you had to kick people from their land to create your own country, then you’re in the wrong. It doesn’t matter if your ancestors lived there thousands of years ago, or if there was ever a palestinian state.
@austin4768 The point is no Palestinian state ever existed. Firstly it is an insult to Jewish nation and entire humanity that people use such derogatory word to describe their own identity. Secondly these people need to realize that either they move away from this land, maybe time comes that some Islamic country will give them place to live, the lands into Saudi desert are vast. Or learn to live in peace within the country. If they follow hamas and terrorism path, keep self inflicting pain and own suffering to point of extinction, they will become extinct, unfortunately no other option will be given.
For everyone who gets the warm fuzzy feeling of hope from the guy at 4:25, Don't be fooled...
Bethlehem (a Biblical Hebrew name btw) is the most touristic city in Judea and Samaria, as many Christians come to the city for its rich Biblical and Christian history.
The livelihood of many of the residents depends upon tourism and they know exactly what to say and not to say to naive Westerners.
You could see his discomfort with the question, he was practicing political correctness.
Every "Palestinian" knows what "free palestine" actually means...
Well he was trying to show that not all Palestinians are extremists as there are extremists from the Zionists side who think that Isreal should take the whole land, I think the more important question is what will happen to the people and if both can live together in peace in a democratic one or two country it doesn’t really matter what you call it, the problem is that Isreal now is still making the situation worse for Palestinians and they hate it because of that, so the first thing is Isreal has to find a way to integrate the Palestinians, to give them rights and stop treatingthem differently and give them hope for freedom and future solution and after that support the peaceful movement to build a new secular society where religion doesn’t matter
It is possible he was trying to be PC but interviewer asked what it means and he gave a well thought out answer without giving his own opinion so I dont think its fair to put him in either camp based on this short interview
Why didn't you ask that last girl; What her friend's name was who was allegedly "killed for wearing a niqab" and when that supposedly happened to be able to verify her claim?
Pfff that was too hilarious
Because that type of shit happens everyday you scmuck on wheels.
@@cielarko6210 they are not "palestinias". Actually jews are.
Do they now claim to be canaanites?
@@smilesmiles389 you will be amused when you will find out what language the canaanites used to speak
"They can figure it out, it's their problem" -- Looks like they've already done that, or are doing that.
😂😂😂😂she is amazing ..and its the truth😕
Caananites were palestines?
The word palesine didn´t exist in that era....
Lots of "Palestines" are recent immigrants of a few generations from arabs countries. Arafat was born in Egypt. And lots of jews had to escape from arabs countries to save theirs lifes.
So, the conflict is more arabs-jews, than palestines- israelies.
It is clear that "From River to Sea, Palestine will be Free" implies that the Jews of Israel disappear, although it does not say how, it is a dangerous ideal.
then who will remain in Israel?
I think you've mistaken the illegal self-proclaimed ''Jewish'' illegal immigrants coming from Poland, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania etc for Palestinians. You don't belong to the region, you're intruders, colonists that were dumped into the region by British colonialism.
Keep lying.
@perakole Well, then you must be very happy to know that each year more and more French Jews have to flee from France thanks to growing muslim population in France and the increasing Islamic anti-semetism hst comes with it. Nothing has changed since Mohamed started killing Jews has it? Muslims even collaborated with sHitler, hence the sHitler clothing stores in Gaza. I hope you're not a hypocrite and won't complain about islamophobia when people have a problem with your attitude?
Palestinian was a word use to describe the jews of that region
CALL IT THE DIRTY WORD IT IS GENOCIDE FUNNY OVER THE CENTURIES MANY HAVE TRIED BUT THE ARE ALL DUST NOW BUT ISRAEL STILL STANDS AND THE G-D OF ISRAEL IS KEEPING HIS WORD...
The last girl is brainwashed
You Are Brainswashed.
i think you are brainwashed, she is just telling the truth buddy, maybe your blind ore just want to turn you head from the truth.
@@wikileaks250000 well she thinks she's a Cannanite so...
There is NO hope for a realistic resolution. One of the two populations must leave. The land is too small for both and there is too much enmity between the two.
_This town ain't big enough for the two of us._
Mark Simons
Ain't that the truth. What's sad is that the Arabs have indeed suffered and continue to but they process that suffering in a very distorted way. Listening to that girl talking you can feel the pain coming through....but....she has NO concept of how to properly think of an Islamic solution. An Islamic solution would not be to eject people settled in an area. That would actually be contrary to Islamics law if I'm correct. So that was just fantasy and emotion on her part. The Arabs are not realistic as a result. They indulge in a lot of emotionalism and magical thinking but some are actually pretty pragmatic. Same as Israelis I suppose. There are Israelis who imagine they will eventually rid the land of Arabs. Ain't happening. They will fight you and die before they are made to leave.
@Son of Mountain actually jorden is also "palestine". Jordan sits on 80 percent of mandatory "palestine" which was established as a national home for the jewish people (read the mandate for "palestine"). Also the majority population of jordan are "palestinians". And most importantly the word "palestine" or "palestinians" comes from hebrew, the meaning of the word is invaders, those who have no connection to the land.
@@AereForst Nationalism is actually prohibited under Islam. If a Islamic State was established in the land we now call Israel,there wouldn't be any Palestinian or Jewish nation. It would be mixed.
Tasin Al-Hassan
Except that most Arabs don't view it that way. They claim sovereignty over the land just as Jews do. Jews invoke religion to justify their claims which in and of itself, in this age, is preposterous. Arabs invoke their being settled there prior to 1948, which in modern political terms, is the more legitimate claim. Nonetheless force and power dictate everything and the winners write history so the American empire and it's Middle-Eastern proxy state continue to act as though that force will be perpetual whereas the truth is that America is a bankrupt entity wholly beholden to a cabal of powerful interests and Israel is a state that can only survive for so long before it's protector involutes under the strain of its own arrogance and corruption (that of its ruling aristocracy) and before it too has to face the karma of its actions. Better it choose wisely and act humbly yet with dignity. It has a right to exist but so does the native population. The only feasible answer is the answer none dare mention: one of these two populations must leave the area and whichever one it is to be needs to be handsomely compensated.
People usually don't like to talk about genocide out loud, especially around those they want to inflict it on.
A lot of the thug "settlers" seem pretty comfortable talking about it.
@@cloudofthought And Hamas had it in their founding charter. And Islam has it in their holy handbook straight from their false god's mouth. I did say *usually*, but sometimes, the hatred just can't be held inside.
Not a single one of them mentioned harming jews, stop making shit up and projecting
@@cloudofthought Settler violence is very few. It only happens in the some hilly part of west bank. You westerners are just ignorant.
This girl should realize that palestine is literally the western name for the region, it was our political territory of the roman empire. Before that it was greek. Its kaffir land, and more to the point, its western land.
That last young woman who said(paraphrasing) if this happened to anyone else, they would be in jail. Well, what she is basically describing is history. Countries are formed over and over again because some other won over the other country. BTW there are endless conflicts in the word in which those suffering in those countries have suffered way way more casualties than either the Palestinians or Israelis, yet it seems the world treats the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as the most important conflict of them all.
PEACE to all. Much respect.
Just find a way to make money in PEACE.
We are all together learning
For me Palestine died on Oct.7th
How come the Palestinians didn't want to be independent when they were occupied by the Turks ,so according with these people ,Jews have to claim Tokyo as their OWN capital😄,the Jews were there since Abraham ,not before '48 or after.... That land was Jewish land,They were pushed out by other nations, and Finally in 48 they managed to get back part of that land,this not theory, dreams and etc. This is the reality ,some people are saying that they were helped by the British, Americans and so on,well if they were so smart to convince America and Britain to help them that means they are smart, dont cry ,try to be smarter than them if you can,Otherwise it's NONSENSE, just question yourself, how come was possible after 2000 years being pushed away and exterminated to became alive as a state, probably its God's plan . At least this is what the Bible says, regardless of what you BELIVE, the fact and reality matches the actuality on the ground. Everything works according with GOD'S plan,regardless if we are aware or not of that.
Utterly false lol
@@freemanrewired facts can't be false
@@mosheshadi6722 good thing the paragraph above does not represent facts. It easy to pick and chose information, go to certain sources that you know will support your agenda and disguise them as facts. No worries though time will tell. It's funny how he throws around "God's Plan". Is that a fact too? The things that Israel (so called Jews) and it's allies have done throughout history seems to be closer to the devil's plan. Hatred, greed, racism, filthy and destructive ideologies, pornography, corruption, no regard for any other humans life but your inner circle of "Jews". I'll give y'all one thing, definitely smart and cunning and able to infiltrate and manipulate. People will wise up though. I ask you to be objective, put aside your diehard programming for a little and really try to understand the diferrence between right and wrong, good and evil, God and the devil.
@@freemanrewired after that comment I understand that you full of hate that it's roots is in anti-Semitic propaganda all what you wrote is pure bullshit and I cant counter any single argument that you wrote. and please tell me the difference?
7:10 as an Israeli I can confirm that claim : I heard some religious guys talking about a famous event in the Torah where God says to Moses while he is on some mountain before he dies "Here is the Land I promised to you, from the sea to the river" (or something like that) and the religious guys were saying "yeah it's the Jordan river but it may be Euphrates, it makes sense, a lot of people understand it as Euphrates and not Jordan river". BTW it doesn't make any sense since the Euphrates is on the North in Iraq so "from the river to the sea" just makes a West and North border and the rest is free for interpretation.
Who wrote the Old Testament first 5 books? Moses a Jew. They want modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
The way the Zionism jews believe is their god told them he would give them all of the land of Canaan. read Gen 12: This also is the way the so call evangelical Christians believe, WHO BACK THE ZIONISM. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
The boundaries of the Promised Land were from the River of Egypt (the Nile) to the Euphrates (Exodus 23:31). By the time Israel was ready to take the land, hundreds of years after Abraham, it was inhabited by pagan nations: Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites (Exodus 33:2). When it was time for the Israelites to inherit the Promised Land, God raised up Moses to bring His people out of slavery in Egypt and used Joshua to lead a military conquest of Canaan. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
The biblical land is from the euphrates to the nile not the mediteranean.
Genesis 15.18
@@HusseinRizkana exodus 23-31
Exodus 23: 30By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land. 31And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee.
4:15 “It’s their problem.” No, actually it’s YOUR problem. These same people now want sympathy. Unfortunately there are too many in the West who don’t see this for what it is.
"start teaching the correct history" to these people !!!!!!!!!! .... somebody needs to educate them !!!
5:06: the guy distances himself from the chant and accepts a 2 State Solution. These are the voices that need to be heard. Not the wokey repeating the chant from the river to the sea
I didn’t even talk about the amount of child that died & amount of women that got raped.
What Palestinians have to do with Canaans? =))
nothing
The guy from 4:23 Is our partner!
Stop saying "From River to Sea, Palestine will be Free." Say the real translation "From water to water, Palestine will be Arab." Way more accurate and transparent.
Narrative as a substitution for history.
Wow the girl at the end was very knowledgable I’d love to have a coffee and conversation with her
Only a fool with a brainwashed mind speaks like that. She even get confused and said the Ottoman is ancient history..
She also gets confused with the "Canaanite ", which is like 3000 years ago and actually Hebrew is the only Canaanite language in todays world.
Only dumb people will buy her lies. Really? The IDF shot her friend for her "mask"? Come to Israel and walk the streets of Jaffa, you will see plenty of women in traditional arab clothing, and they dont get shot.
The fact is that she deny any relations of the jews for this land, which is actually written in the Quran that "God gave this land to the Jews", But, unlike jewish people, its easier for the pals to make propaganda then to admit the sad truth - The jewish people belong to the land.
Sad girl, probably learned from a very poor History book.
She was very knowledgeable?! She blathered on about human rights then said she supports ethnically cleansing the land from millions of Jewish men, women, and children and expelling them from their homes to lands soaked with their blood! That's who you want to have a coffee with?!
Knowlegeable??
@@santalofty4917 The fast is that i dont hate you, and wont talk like you and your mates. Our wish is to end the suffer and end the war, the reason the palestinian people still suffering is only because of their poor leaders and poor choices.
But for you its probably easier to say "JACOB" then face the truth - that the Jewish people are back for their homeland and that they have success in every single thing that the WHOLE ARAB WORLD FAILED TO DO.
@@Discoursivist how’s that different to what isreal is doing
22:24 "Most people don't even know what Palestine is" - um, you sure about that? There are hardly any other small countries on earth that are as universally known as Israel and Palestine... Anywhere on Earth you go people know about your conflict.
I think you are not aware of the language difficulty she is having. She means they don't acknowledge our struggle or help us probably.
@@Ziad3195 fair point, though I certainly see a lot of people acknowledging and supporting the Palestinian struggle, too (myself included 🇦🇲🤝🇵🇸). It’s just frustrating for me, as an Armenian, since Israel’s close partner and ally, Azerbaijan, ethnically cleansed Nagorno Karabakh of indigenous ethnic Armenians with Israeli weapons and help just two months ago and there was hardly a reaction in the rest of the world. Yasser Arafat once said “we and the Armenians are one people” - I still believe that, and it’s even more true now. Hopefully all the action across the globe for Palestine will also shed some light on these other recent victims of Israeli drones and bombs.
@@adoberoots Oh my, I didn't know Azerbaijan is related to Israel..
@@Ziad3195 Yes, it's shameful. Below is some info for you. The Azeri regime has even strengthened relations with Israel over the past week.
"Azerbaijan and Israel are close military partners. According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), more than 60% of Azerbaijani weapons imports came from Israel between 2017 and 2020, making up 13% of Israeli exports during the same period." [1]
"In the aftermath of the October 7 Hamas mega-terrorist attack on Israel and the ensuing Gaza war, which jeopardizes the Abraham Accords, a groundbreaking energy deal between Azerbaijan, a secular Shia-Muslim majority nation, and Israel just took place. Azerbaijan’s state-owned SOCAR company will explore the area in the Mediterranean north of the giant Leviathan field." [2]
[1] : edition.cnn.com/2023/10/04/middleeast/azerbaijan-israel-weapons-mime-intl/index.html
[2] : www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2023/11/13/israel-azerbaijan-energy-deal-strengthens-strategic-partnership/?sh=61aa205b64ee
Palestine is the region of the area, it is historical homeland of the Jews. Arabs in the region you have appropriated "Palestinian" to (remember Jews of that time were called Palestinias) is already free, but not under Arab control nor under the Islamic Sharia-law state Hamas wants for it.
The lady from Michigan should watch this.
The smiles on their faces after the question:'' What will happen to the Israelis''
disgusting, we all know what will happen.
The same grin when asked "what happens to the Israelis".
I hope these people are not harmed by being doxed. Thanks for your work Corey, so valuable.
israelites were already living in canaan thousands of years before christianity or islam was born. girl in purple dont know the real history. the last muslim empire that conquered jews were the ottoman. then the brits defeated the ottoman so it is now theirs to rule and decided to give a portion of the land to the jews who have historic and ancestral rights to that land.
the israelis agreed with the small land they were given but arab muslims waged war. they lost so they also lost land.
Interview people In the Golan heights
GH are a long way from Tel Aviv. You'll have to stump up sponsorship $$$$ for Corey to get there.
@@marksimons8861
If you mean that an hour and a half ride is a long way I completely agree. People can't really comprehend how tiny Israel is.
Let truth prevail
@@rumatom1 It's nearly 180 km by my reckoning. That's a long way in my books. I bet it takes more than 90 minutes in by bus/train.
@@qayn7617 Blimey. it's nearly as far away as Scotland!
It’s funny now that these Muslims are going to have to go back from where he came from so Israel could be free from the river to the sea😂
Karma ?😂😂😂
It’s funny that they don’t see the Ottamans as occupiers. And they didn’t want to freedom under Jordanian rule.
the last girl said the land is for canaanites. so good. we should sack everyone and leave it to the canaanites and if there is no canaanites left then its free land now occupied by israel. america is not going to leave for the indigenous. almost every country now is living on lands previously not theirs. too late. we moved on from fighting for land. leave in peace is what matters now.
@Ronie Lavon as i stated. almost every country in this world took land previously not thiers. too late, there is no returning of lands. every other country now lives in peace with the indegenous. so peace is what matters. i cant verify your claims for current lands.
.. also fighting wouldnt solve since israel is stronger and has all the west support. if palestine had agree on the lands of the 90s the world would have moved on.
@Ronie Lavon hahah. you guys have been fighting israel since the 90s and they keep evacuating you. its impossible my friend. just stay peacefully with israel.
I think the solution would be to have a democratic government in which no religion is involved, like we do in western countries. Religions and politic should be separated. This is the only way all religions can live together without conflict.
Yes, and pigs will fly and donkeys' will sing. show me one "democratic" country that resembles the utopian nonsense you are professing. it's a pipe dream. islam is not a religion but an ideology of rape, pillage, terrorism, subjugation and does not live in peace with any others that don't submit to islam.
Western countries are now suffering from this secular liberalism. Because they respect religious freedom, they gave the opportunity to these extremists Muslims to enter their countries. That is a big mistake. It will be very bloody in the future.
Israel isn’t a religious country. It’s a secular state. They have gay prides there. We western countries are also Christian like Israel is Jewish. Meaning our holidays are based upon Christianity and our basic laws are/were from the principles of Christianity. That’s the same in Israel. It’s in no way a religious state. That’s why the extreme Orthodox Jews live in seperate towns where they DO apply their religion into daily life (like no driving on shabat, religious clothes etc)
@@Anthony_Gx It depends what ''religious country" means to you. If you have a country that bases its existence on the promises made by a divine real estate agent, then I beg to differ. If your leader mentions God forto justify his actions then we should think harder on the nature of this state. Most interviews in the street show people who justify their Apartheid regime by stating their higher purpose as Jews. Its a fairly superstitious state if you ask me even if it tries to show to the world that it isn't.
That is NOT the solution. The goal you want to achieve can NOT be the solution. You need to find the cause that doesn't allow you to arrive to the solution.
The problem is the USA. Its the single player that has boycotted all UN rulings against the Apartheid regime of Israel. US finances and sells all the weapons to Israel so neighboring Arab countries can not invade and put an end to this crime.
Its the US....always.
If “river to sea” means different things to different Palestinians then they’ll never achieve that. However, it means one thing to antisemites outside of the land and that is to terrorize Jews.
Every civilised , Democratic country should support Israel against islamic terrorism.
It seems like Palestinians have problems with education... the last girl is pretty open to conversation, but her history knowledge isn’t good enough. The ignorance sometimes is the biggest problem.
It is the result of indoctrinated education, not simple ignorance.
Look at that open air prison …pretty nice
Seems hunny bunny with the big smile living in lala land never going to be back to 1948, she is the one that should go away and find somewhere else
20:49 So Palestinians are actually Canaanites that predated the Jews? But the Israelites took over Canaan in 1200 BC. Canaan and it's various peoples, like the Philistines, stopped existing as sovereign civilizations. They were absorbed by other civilizations through exile into the Babylonian Empire and then the Persian Empire. The Israelites were almost absorbed but were allowed back to rebuild. So the only unique civilization that survived with its religion intact from that area is the Jewish civilization. All the rest melded into others.
The Romans conquered Judea in 63 AD.
They renamed it to Palestine in 136 AD because of the Jewish Bar Kokhba revolt.
Then the Muslim Arabs took over in 636,
the Crusaders in 1099,
the Muslim Mamluks in 1291,
the Ottomans in 1517, and
the British in 1918
There were skirmishes between the scattered Jewish and Arab settlements in Palestine.
So there is no such thing as a Palestinian civilization or nation, only Jews, Arabs, and other nationalities living in Palestine.
Arab Palestinians are a people-group created in the 1900s to counter Zionist activities in Palestine and to destroy the state of Israel which was unilaterally created by the Jews after the Arabs rejected the UNs partition plan which Jewish leaders had accepted.
The whole Muslim world joined forces with the Palestinians to eradicate the Jews but were defeated in 1948, which should have been the end of the Muslim Palestinian project.
Now 1.8 million non-Jews live and work within Israel's borders and, those who identify as Palestinians should learn to live in peace so they can regain the trust of their benevolent host so Israel can gradually remove security measures rightfully imposed on them. As we see from these interviews, it still seems necessary because of the racist indoctrination they receive from their Hamas brothers in Gaza.
@thisispeace101 Exactly! And that is why the Israeli gov is making sure Israel isn't only for Jews. 21% living in Israel are "Arabs", 6% "others". Please inform me of any Muslim country that even comes close. Non-Muslims have been pushed out of all of them.
If you look at the British mandate map of the middle east at the beginning of the 20th century, which was the result of the ( Sykes & Picot ) agreement for the division of the Ottoman vilayet into regions they'll colonize, you can see Palestine right there. And if you read the official Balfour letter, the British administration promised the zionist organization, that they would establish in PALESTINE (black on white) a home for Jewish people. All the negotiations that took place before and after that were based on a map that contained PALESTINE as a land with borders for Palestinians with different religious backgrounds (Jewish, Muslim, and Christian); So, before the name of Israel came up, Palestine as an entity and land were there. If you don't believe Palestinians at least believe the British, they record everything. You can find maps dating to early 19th century describing palestine. There is also a known ferman map of palestine from 1588.
@@chaymaeb373 Like I said, the Romans renamed Judea to Palestine in 136 AD so no surprise in what you're saying. Before 1100 BC, the Egyptian Merneptah Stele and earlier evidence establishes an area called Israel, north of the area called Judea which was called Judah in those days. The stele is not "black and white", it is written in stone! You know, archaeology.
@@alm5682 so a Palestinian population existed for the longest time and a kingdom called Judah existed like a thousand years ago BC, so one does not eliminate the other. There is also evidence of a population called Hyksos (related to Canaanites) in Egypt, who were exiled by a king, and those were the founders of Judah. There are other theories depending on the archeological findings. Before that, there were Phoenicians (some say, it is another name for Canaanites). And when you say Phoenicians, you need to go back to ancient Greeks. So now, Greeks should come back, exile everyone, and claim the land as theirs because they conquered it or lived in it once upon a time? If you want to base a conflict on history, you need to bring back all the players of that time, not one or two, all of them, and surely you won't be happy with the end result. You Can go back to the past endlessly, but this isn't what is going to cut it. I don't think also that denying a whole population with it is 20th generation, to prove the existence of another one is going to cut it either. This is a unique part of the earth, with a rich history of diversity, and has seen the movement of people and influences from different parts of the world. It is the crosspoint of monotheistic religions. Till 100 years ago, it was like that . and one religion can't be entitled to it alone. And whoever would like to reside in that land, should be able to respect its uniqueness.
@@chaymaeb373 You spoke truth >> "one religion can't be entitled to it alone. "
Are we agreeing here? I'm not sure you realize that Israel is a multicultural, multi-religious country that you speak of. The Israeli government is trying to keep the peace between that whole variety of religions and peoples, and keep peace with their neighbors who are uni-religion countries including two Palestinian "areas" who want to genocide all Jews in Israel.
1.8 million Arabs and/or Palestinians live peacefully in their own homes in Israel.
Despite certain security precautions or checkpoints, they do not want to leave Israel because their quality of life is equal or better than in any other Arab or Palestinian places outside of Israel. They are 21% of Israel's total population. A further 6% are non-Jewish.
>> "Greeks should exile everyone..?"
Do you mean Jews in the UN partition plan areas, should not have defended themselves from the Palestinians and the whole Arab world who crossed in to slaughter them in 1948, 1967, and 1973?
The Jews won and gained the land, and then gave back huge amounts of land to secure peace and to have separation buffers against the surviving genocidal maniacs: "You go live your hate over there, away from my family and away from peace-loving Arabs and/or Palestinians and everyone here living their lives without violence inside Israel."
Your narrative about exile omits facts. Palestinian leaders have always forfeited and lost their people's own homes because of hate and warmongering. A majority of the Palestinians joined in the attempted genocides and so lost everything for everyone, even for the other Palestinians who did not want to participate, but how to distinguish between the two? Very difficult.
IT'S NOT YOUR LAND. THERE IS NO "PALISTINE".
I find it interesting that Muslim women with their hair covered are always more brutal than the men. She basically said, that Israelis must leave and worry about themselves. Not her problem. Her smile is sickening. No mercy in the situation. The men seem reasonable.