I HATE The New DC Animated Universe
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In this video we talk about Superman: Man of Tomorrow, Justice Society: World War II, Batman: The Long Halloween - Part One and Part Two, Green Lantern: Beware My Power, Legion of Super-Heroes and lastly kinda we bring up Justice League: Warworld which comes out soon. And how these movies have been a disappointment. Hope DC can turn it around soon.
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Dare To Entertain, review anime so could review Sailor Moon 90's anime and Sailor Moon Crystal.
Batman The Long Halloween
i am a anime watcher and i start reading comic from dc and they have amazing storyies whih are amazing but they are too much focus on live actoin and don't care that much about animations
Batman under the red hood
Apocolypse war
Unfortunately, we will probably never get a scene again like in Flashpoint where Barry brings Thomas Wayne's letter to the late Kevin Conroy's Batman. It hits even harder for me now that he is gone.
Mate that scene is terrific. It’s slow and paced so well for impact. “This is my fathers handwriting”. We can hope for dc to return to form
Same.
What makes this frustrating is that they HAVE the formula for creating a new animated universe. Its the same arguement of what WB should have done with the DCEU by following the DCAU. They have it right there and yet its like they can't see it.
I have been having this exact conversation since highschool in like 2015-16. The template for a perfect Universe is there. And I genuinely believe Gunn sees that and will use it for his universe. Not souly but he has at least consumed that and knows hey that works.
While also reading all the runs of JLA or any important DC run. Even the badly received ones. I have faith.
@Dare To Entertain I envy you because I've just given up, but hopefully, this new universe can give me hope.
I’ve always found the argument to follow the DCAU to be stupid. So what? A ton of films about only Batman and Superman, then introduce all the other heroes in a single film? Sounds like they already tried that.
@@CommanderSteelTrapwell I feel like it makes sense to an extent. If they are trying for a connected universe the Animated verse is a good template for that. They need to establish what marvel did in the beginning a connection with the characters. Like age of ultron although wasn’t that good the scene with everyone just relaxing and having fun was a great moment in the movie where the characters feel real. Civil war,infinity war,and endgame we felt what some of the characters were going through and would often assume their thoughts on the current situation. Batman,Superman ,and Wonder Woman haven’t had that type of depth in a good while not saying the animated movies did a perfect job but it was something
@@Jhp29000 But that’s not what the DCAU did, not until near the end. It was pretty much just Batman and Superman stuff for ages, maybe the occasional other hero would make an appearance, but then they shoved all of them together in JL. It’s not until JLU where stuff like the heroes just hanging out and doing nothing for a while started becoming actually prominent, now that they actually had more than 7 heroes in the Universe to actually use. And it’s not what the DCAMU or now the Tomorrowverse did either. They pretty much only built up a few characters, while shoving the rest in at the end when they were needed.
Cheap is the right word to use. They are saving money and people are too dumb to notice. Even loudly calling us dumb for liking the old style. The old style, apart from its far more dynamic lighting, was also quick. We are watching the most powerful being imaginable we shouldn't feel like each movement is encumbered or done under tranquilizer.
Tomorrowverse looks like archer ngl
ARCHER is enjoyable though...this, not so much!
DC animation really peaked with under the red hood
Just man... That movie is so good. I rewatch that movie often.
Aw come on, The Death of Superman and Flashpoint Paradox were so good.
Batman shill
@@DaveRedsky Except the movie was actually good and considered one of the best by the fans. At least use shill correctly next time
@@johnsoapmactavish9921 TF are you talking about ? Use shill right ? What's the 1st comment you're commenting on? That's their subject line?
The violent ending of the New52 universe is remaining in the back of my mind as I watch this new Tomorrowverse. Are these characters just fated to suffer horrible torture as shock value entertainment when this continuity ends?
I agree
@@WhatsNextVideosthe whole point of crisis on infinite earths is to bring every earth together this has been their plan from the start like in the comics
Honestly Dcamu was better 😢
@@rileyowen7245 I don't like dcamu very much, but the characters had a weight to them, you were like wow when you saw them, but if Tomorov gave it, they turned it into a children's movie, but I watched the first 5, there is 1 more left, after that, the 3-part animation series continues from where it left off, as you know, dcamu, but I haven't watched it yet in Apokalips War. the last scene was mentioned
1:48 I wasn’t even aware people had problems with the art style of the previous DCAMU. It might just be me but I really liked the character design and animation of that series of films
Facts, it's some of the story lines that are the problem
The fans of the 90's Cartoons hold everything to the standards of those shows and basically expect everything to be like them. They hold those shows up on some high pedestal as if they are the Ten Commandments of DC animation. Those shows are still great, but that mentality is just so toxic and basically why we lost the DCAMU in the first place.
Me I grew up on reruns of the old Bruce Timm shows and loved them, but I still liked the movies. I enjoy shit like Total Drama and Clone High, animation/art style is literally not even a factor for me at all.
Def the best looking one out of all of them we had almost 10 years of this amazing animation style/ similar and now they shift to this…. Only passable one for animation is long Halloween and even that one was shallow
i kinda hated the new52 animation artstyle cause everyone had super beefed up bodies with the faces had the weirdest proportions for me which makes their faces really tiny and it was just unbearable for me to watch.
@@Omochakuma That is literally how beefed up people look in real life! Their heads are always super small relative to their bodies. Do you not see irl people???
The animation for tomorrow verse is terrible. I wish the kept the same animation as the DC verse.
It is actually my favorite.
These movies are monotonous and bland. I can't get into them like I could with Under The Red Hood and Superman versus The Elite.
Other good ones are Superman/Batman Public Enemies and Apocalypse. Also Peak DC.
@marxvargas7697 i would add Justice League: Crisis on Two Earth's as well, it is one of favorite DC movies of all time.
The animation is so lifeless and dull, the stories aren't terrible but i can't get over how bad the animation is. Literally no passion in it whatsoever.
I miss the old universe, it had such a better art style and didn't look too clean, the costumes looked like they had some sort of armour or weight to them. The death of superman was my favourite movie from that universe and I find this new universe to be kinda boring
Eh I liked it but it was directionless
@@kwayneboy1524 The new universe introduced Brainiac only for two scenes in one movie, and then offed him at the end. That was the full extent of Brainiac's appearance in the Tomorrowverse since it's ending with Warworld/Crisis on Infinite Earths. Yeah.
I'm arguing that the Tomorrowverse is just as, if not more, directionless.
@@kwayneboy1524directionless? Bruh it was the only good shared universe
@@Loboo869 remember all the films it was setting up before they decided to kill it off?
Agreed, now that the new52 movies are done, I look back and enjoyed a few of them quite a bit. Perhaps I was too harsh on them compared to what we currently have. And yes Death of Superman was by far the best movie in that universe (omitting Flashpoint because it kicked off the new52 but is not part of it).
I have 2 top favorite DC animated movies, being “Flashpoint Paradox” and “Batman: Under the Red Hood” definitely the best movies, Flashpoint is what made The Flash specifically the Barry Allen Flash and I was already a big Jason Todd fan and seeing Jason go from Robin to the Red Hood and seeing all the pain and torment he’s been through that movie is just fuckin amazing and MY FAVORITE VOICE FOR JASON TODD (that guy from supernatural whatever tf his name is)
Jensen Ackles' Jason Todd is literally always showing up in my tik tok. His voice is just a part of batman culture and Jason. That single role. Him and Troy Baker both do amazing Jason Todd's.
@@DareToEntertainwhat do you think about how jensen has been voicing Batman
yes these rule so fucking hard. maybe Doom as 3 but I agree there's a clear delineation. I always had the dream of adapting avengers disassembled - dark avengers - siege for marvel when iw as a kid and would always use those movies as the reference point.
edit: obviously dark night returns 1 and 2 I consider real movies and not in this category but more in line with the godfather
@@DareToEntertainNaaaah troy voice wasn’t right n lame he sound too angry for me Jensen will always b my definitive red hood not Troy he should just stick to voicing joker from now on
The best part about the different movies and stories in the DC animated universe, was how different they looked and felt. Batman/Superman Apocalypse, Justice League Crisis On Two Earths, Year One, maaaan they were all fire
They were off to a good start too. Man of Tomorrow was okay, Justice Society was fun, then they gave us Long Halloween which I thoroughly enjoyed.
I still personally thing Long Halloween didn't need to be in a shared universe though. Like why can't I just enjoy this iconic story on it's own, without having to watch the rest of this new shared universe thing? Plus the movies seem so disconnected from the other movies anyway, the shared universe stuff seems so randomly tacked on. I keep hearing good things about Long Halloween but knowing it's in a shared universe makes me unwilling to watch it cuz if they just pull another Universe ending reboot then everything that happens in that movie is pointless/meaningless anyway.
@@diamondinthesky4771I disagree here, these movies can be contained stories but still fit in a universe with other heroes. If they want the heroes to meet up in futures movies then then can.
@anigerianninja4577 you should watch long halloween. It's so good
@@Mineticagreed/exactly.
It’s not amazing, but it’s so much better than the new 52 universe
Hate the fact I can never get attached to a series without DC just breaking it down and stacking it all back again. The DCAU was and still probably is my favorite interpretation of all the characters, they could've had two universes co exist in a different series, or simply ended the DCAU on a soft note. But nah, kill em all off because haha funny time.
It’s all economic driven. They reboot everything because they see that the old universe has “ran it’s course,” so to speak. So they start all over again with catchy catchphrase as NEW, EXCITING, ALL NEW, ALL DIFFERENT, etc. They do this to boost up their sales once again. You can’t get attached because the company themselves are not driven by artistic integrity. It’s all about money. The reason for this is because we live in a money driven capitalistic society. You can’t expect to make a livable living wage with a small group of customers. So you have to expand with things that boost up your market sales. Even if it means throwing artistic integrity out the window.
The DCAMU sucked a$$ bro wtf are you talking about. Movies were either garbage or incredibly subpar at best, the fake-anime art style was ugly and boring, very unfaithful to the comics, Damian Wayne was overused, unnecessary amounts of violence and sex appeal because edgy is cool right? and most importantly a lot of character weren't given a proper introduction and screentime; they just randomly appear for a glorified cameo without any cool fight scene or dialogue and are just used as cannon fodder (John Stewart, Hawkman, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern Corps the Teen Titans, Legion of Doom and the list goes on).
That universe was cheap and hollow edgyness, it fits that it ended in that same way in Apokolips War.
@@TheBatman39the movies weren't the greatest but they aren't that bad as they do have great character moments that get to the heart of these characters.
JLD:AW literally did the opposite of what the movies are supposed to do for me, it made me never want to read any of the comics. It made me actually want to avoid DC content as much as possible. It killed my enjoyment in DC.
Curiously, I find that the people who like that movie tend to either be purist fans of the Timmverse shows, or they are big fans of the Tomorrowverse.
@@diamondinthesky4771
Exactly. If they fish in with the promise of showing you what you can get by watching and keeping in touch with their content, and then pull the bait up just as you're hooked, it don't look too good at all.
I prefer the animation from Justice League animated I just love that feel of animation it has
Bro thanks. I literally thought i was going crazy cause i couldn't find anyone else talk about the style. The animation is honestly good but the style just look off especially compared to the previous universe.
seems like dc animation needs to hire some people with passion
From memory and some research there seems to be some real talent in the bones of these projects. But for some reason the just make the same movie over and over again. Like... why? The fomula is the exact same. Wouldnt that get boring as a filmmaker to continue doing over and over?
You also have to remember who are their customers. If the consumer isn’t smart, then you can get away with doing the bare minimum over and over again.
@@DareToEntertain it seems you've glossed two major points in your video, the fact that the animators, directors and producers of these same movies are operating on a deadline of an average of 6 months between each new release a year and a little something that's called cost effective budget, if memory serves me correctly it was an average of 2 mil for each project, so instead of wishing to be a better man for next year why don't you stand up and applaud every time a movie like this is made because every filmmaker or youtuber in the world would rightfully tell you that it is for most of the time a nightmare to produce a movie or short video respectively.
@@DareToEntertain Please, the new 52 movies are all the same.
Don’t remember saying otherwise? When did I say they were unique? I say In this thread multiple times that it’s a rinse and repeat type beat.
Something that I think would help is if DC even tried to cover some of their less used heroes. Like we don't have a specific movie for Martian Manhunter, Vixen, etc.
Also, in terms of art direction, I HATE the true form they gave J'onn. Like, Martians are supposed to be a humanoid species and they made him look way too Lovecraftian, imo.
That's what I am saying . It has become boring using the same characters
@@diazcastro7331tbf they haven't paid attention to green lantern in awhile
I mean Adam stranger is pretty under used
But they have dialogues and some relevance, instead of the pngs with one line in the dcamu
I agree and disagree with some sentiments here.
I think the animation is actually quite nice. The thick lines and coloring makes it feel like a literal comic book come to life. It feels classic. Like you compared anime to this (which is never a good idea), but you did so by putting cinematic parkour… next to three characters walking through a door?? That’s a very poor argument to make, as if characters walking through a door have to be as epic as hunters zip lining across the air. Literally all the great animated scenes in the Tomorrowverse that COULD compare to anime or atleast be considered nice to look at:
•Superman Vs Lobo
•Batman chasing Catwoman
•Batman Vs the mafia in that alleyway in Part 1
•WonderWoman vs Aquaman
•John Stewart and Arrow Vs Hal Jordan
•Supergirl vs Grundy
•Superman and Flash Vs Brainiac.
Like if you’re gonna make the claim that the animation is bad or inferior to anime, don’t compare an intentionally average scene to one that a lot of people put time and effort into to make thrilling. Fair on both sides. I’m not saying that the Tommorowverse is as slick and inventive as anime, but it’s not trying to be and that’s okay.
That said, I think the movies play it too safe. Story wise. Nobody is making any bold strides, and there isn’t much hype for continuing stories. Even when characters get sick power ups, they resort back shortly afterwards. It doesn’t feel like a universe is building, but rather that it’s teasing a potential build up.
They also skip way more than what’s necessary. Why give us a Batman, Superman, Flash, and Green Lantern origin/early years movies if we’re not even gonna see them get together for the first time? We don’t even know what or who this team consists of yet, which is a damn shame. There’s just not enough patience.
But to land on a good note? All the characters actually feel like who they’re supposed to be, which is more than what recent previous and even current iterations can say.
Superman is shamelessly hopeful and has a good soul, but also human and without a god complex.
Batman is an actual detective and not just a high tech ninja.
Flash is the heart still, but also struggles to stay in the moment.
Supergirl is bubbly and actually fun to see on screen but with her own story and setting and arc that separates her from her more popular cousin.
In a way, you can see what they’re going for. Even if they aren’t hitting the mark and hugging too close to source material for safety instead of telling original and groundbreaking stories, it’s atleast a solid effort.
"Like if you’re gonna make the claim that the animation is bad or inferior to anime, don’t compare an intentionally average scene to one that a lot of people put time and effort into to make thrilling. Fair on both sides. I’m not saying that the Tommorowverse is as slick and inventive as anime, but it’s not trying to be and that’s okay."
Just to quickly address this. This was a miscommunication between me and my editor. He has never watched anime so I assume he grabbed the easiest thing to showcase rather then something that was a fair comparison. Thats on me so I am sorry. To give further context to why I wrote that in the script.
The reason I dislike the overall look of the tomorrow verse isn't for those WIT style one take shots that are stunning. Its even just the smaller talking scenes. Where shows like Vinland saga is able to articulate such small details in emotion that I just get nowhere near here.
Comparing overall to anime is yeah not fair. Its why I only a few times dare go near that. Its more so I have covered quite a bit of anime on the channel and wanted to showcase the whiplash of coming from that space back to western media where Animation like this. Is yeah more so rushed out the door under tough time constraints were talented artists arent able to flourish their skills.
As for the scenes you mentioned they all just dont work for me from an entertainment engaging viewpoint. For me. Others here have shown that yes it does work. But to be clear, the DCAMU films also struggled in this regard and films like Injustice were 10x worse. I actively hated my time with that film.
And I hear you on the writing. its nice to see these heroes actually being themselves. But the voice acting and writing just feels so undercooked like no one was giving the time to truly just cook. Thank you for taking the time to comment mate. I appreciate the care you have for these films to have this much to say.
Bro still dont get what tommoverse is meant for . Judging from the art style, character designs and story wise you can easily tell this is a toned down of the new 52, making it less complex, simple and straight, but it focuses on character contained stories emphasizing the symbols of every hero. Which the new 52 hasn't fairly done, dont get me wrong there are alot of DCAMU movies that have have character development stories but its more intended to lesser know characters like the "son of batman" clearly focuses on damian's development, this time it brings back the OG justice league animated character vibes trying to fit in modern times. So basically tomorrowverse is more on emphasizing self contained stories intended on showing true personalities of each heroes in a simple way.
So its safe to say the character designs, etc. matches the universe
The animation is bad
Who ask?
@@DareToEntertain I have been a fan for 20 years plus. This is my favorite animation style. Excited they went with it and am sad it is probably over.
Notice most of the DC animated movies you liked were really old? DC animated movies have been shit for a long time now. Yet, I always hear people say "Why can't the live action movies be as good as the animated movies? Those are ALWAYS amazing!" No. No, they're not. Most of them are garbage.
The Dark Knight Returns part 2 was the last of that era I would say. Or at least Justice League Doom which was around the same time. And yeah I hate hearing the old quote "Why can't the live action movies..." just yeah. Hopefully James Gunn's animated stuff is better.
I wanted to see the new ones but turned them off literally only because of the art style.
I remember like a year ago I put on Superman: Man of Tomorrow and turned it off halfway through because I was bored out of my mind 💀💀💀
I am so sorry for making you watch and flick through all 5-6 movies for this edit. Must have been so bloody boring to do hahaha
Yeah, that flick was dull as dishwater.
@@DareToEntertain it almost killed me, but I reckon I’ll pull through
Passionate fans could've probably done much better.
It was really not that bad, you guys are just too weird
I actually really like these movies… coming out of the DC animated universe into the tomorrowverse, you can see the tonal differences. The animated universe was dark and griddy, and… Snyder-esk. But the Tomorrowverse feels hopeful. My biggest issue with the old universe was Superman. Superman is supposed to be the poster child for “hope”. And in the old universe he felt bloody thirsty, inhuman, and a punch first talk later guy, which just isn’t Superman, that’s Batman. In the tomorrowverse, Superman has been that symbol of hope. I agree that it hasn’t been super engaging in terms of connectivity, but I enjoy the art style, and the animation feels fluid.
you never watched the death of superman clearly. rewatch that movie then come back to this comment.
DCAMU Superman changed completely in Death of Superman. They did a complete 180 on his characterization.
@@jhill17 Oop you told him first lol
John Stewart is one of my faves and I was really disappointed how much they phoned it in and did not even try to get him.
He isn't Rambo lite. Their powers are shaped by not just their will but the way they think. Hal is the paragon of will and the standard of GL heroism. John Stewart is a creative architect, not some half arsed genius or just better chosen one. If he can beat Parallax it should be because of Hal losing his best qualities despite being more powerful than the Corps combined and John having a 3d way of thinking and creativity with the ring that lets him create things no other GL would think of.
The writing and characterization was atrotious.
I didn´t notice that, for me the worst green lanterns are simon baz and Jessica Cruz and the worst movie is Batman Harley Quinn. Sorry, I know it was the Bruce Timm's baby but it really suckeed.
@@brunodelacruz06why are they the worst lanterns?
They mainly or partly phoned it in by casting Aldis Hodge to play John Stewart. Aldis Hodge has never, ever, stood out in anything he's played in. In fact, one thing I noticed about Aldis Hodge is he's easily upstaged by every actor he's in a movie with.
Guess what happened in this movie? Hodge's Green Lantern John Stewart gets upstaged and outshone by other characters. It's like clockwork, without fail, with him. I also wouldn't put it past the writers, unfortunately, to misinterpret John, but casting Hodge does you no favors.
The JL/JLU Jon Stewart (voiced by the brilliant Phil Lamarr) is my all-time fave animated version of Green Lantern. I wasn’t watching much TV at all in the mid/late ‘90s through the early ‘00s so was only superficially aware of the DCAU until I got Netflix & stumbled across Justice League & Justice League Unlimited. Man I love that show!
(BTW: For a series that was definitely directed at kids JL is pretty darn sophisticated. I’ve watched most of the post JLU DCAU movies & a few of them are quite good. Others…not so much. I’m also not a big fan of the new animation style. And seeing as how I was in my early 30s when I caught up with Justice League, & the Batman & Superman TAS shows I don’t think anyone can accuse me of excessive childhood nostalgia. 😉)
@@icqpimp Hodge def was a standout as Hawkman in Black Adam and nearly every review of that movie may have bashed the movie but pointed out how amazing Dr. Fate and Hawkman were in the movie.
For me I do really like the Tomorrow verse,, I think that is a very interesting take of DC,, and it's taking about non famous stories which is good,, and really like the animation style.
I know u did not ask but my rating:
Superman Man of Tomorrow: Not that bad
Justice Society WWII: Pretty Good
Green Lantern: Actually not bad, enjoyable
Batman Long Halloween1-2: OOHH DAMN
Legion of Super-heros: Its ok I guess
Mate I am always curious to peoples ratings. ( I Know my joke at the end implies I don't) I am happy that most of these were at least enjoyable for you. I guess that means your hyped af for Justice League: Warworld then right?!
@@DareToEntertain I'm pretty hype because I wanna actually see these characters react to ech other. Idk why they just skip through character development in between vids. Like u said
Overall, not good because the others could've been better. The real question is why they didn't.
Batman Long Halloween1-2 is great better than Batman Hush.
Too bad, because I LOVE this new animated universe.
Nobody asked dawg
@@shido_rimru_Well, you're rude. I was just giving my own opinion. What, you just watched this video because you want this guy to say that he hates it because you do too? Also, no one is going to take you seriously if you use words like dawg.
@@Hewylewisbro I’m sorry but if you can watch beware my power and warworld and think that it’s good your a moron
I don't love it, but it's enjoyable, there's much unnecessary hate, like a Korra syndrome
@@josef.ramoss.8457 Correction, I loved this new universe...up until the Green Lantern movie, and then it just went completely downhill.
I miss old dc animated universe with btas, justice league unlimited and etc
So Do I. 😔
The moment I saw what they did to Hal I stopped caring.
You do realize that Hal does actually become Parallax in the comics, right?
Two things. Because it’s in the comics doesn’t mean it’s automatically good. (Spider-Man: One more day)
Secondly execution makes all the difference. And a lot it seems didn’t like how they did it in these movies for Hal.
@@BigAl2-u7e I am aware of hal becoming Parallax in the 90s yes. However I expected other arcs first in regards to Hal. Imagine if this new universe starts with Batman in Gotham with the Riddler & Joker going at war with each other or Bane killing Alfred in front of damien, It's too damn soon. Plus the way in which it happened just didn't fit right.
If you're gonna do Hal Parallax then you better do 2 things.
1). Have everything else established with hal. Sinestro being kicked out of the core, Show John & Guy gardner, Blackest Night Prophecy(not the event), Coast city's destruction, Etc.
2). Give it justice. Don't screw it up.
That's it's.
@@nicknight1728Smallville did this same story but better they didn't give an origin to this crap as they just told you want they were and who this character is as it's more to develop the characters and make a unique story instead of making the same story.
as let's be real everyone knows who the Green Lantern Corp is along sinestro's origin can just be said as it's not essential to the plot.
The prophecy isn't really that important to the story depending on how you want parallax to be.
It's important to make a good characterization for Hal as the parasite manipulates his fear and anger into corrupting him this is why Beware My Power failed when it came to Hal.
The Long Halloween was the peak of the Tomorrowverse imo. Sadly the universe completely collapsed once Legion, Beware my Power and Warworld came around
The previous one was much more better the story, lore, and even animation
No, is just Batman movies.
@@mayotango1317 nah hated some of the batman movies, also why did they have to make so many, the gl in that was great could definitely have swapped some of those movies for a gl movie
It was improvised, there were a lot of set up and characters who ended up left or killed on apokolips wars like Wonder Girl, Aquaman and shazam after the first movies, Batgirl, the post credits of WW bloodlines.
Just animation, most of the story were mediocre and never developed coming out of nowhere as it's resolutions. The Tomorrowverse has a diverse lore, a "futuristic" city like Metropolis, a dark city like Gotham, thanagarians and rann lore, a team in the future, a warworld planet.
I thought I was the only one who didn't like the new art style that much
The characters have no presence, same goes for the New 52. Superman doesn’t feel like Superman. Batman and other heroes hold no presence. They feel like small and weak schmucks that aren’t ’bigger than life’
Same goes for their Live Action TV division too. CW Superman and other Heroes fall flat. They don’t feel like the real Thing.
One of the the many things the DCEU succeeded in, Main Character actually hold weight. Maybe it’s a budget thing? Then again, the same problem appears in Superman returns.
Lois & Superman is the best show.
Finally someone that hates that art style and muddy colors, remembers me when they changed colors in comics to appeal to girls, is repulsive and i don't know why! And all the movies are useless and bland, without personality or emotion! Warworld is the less horrible, but is lazy and cheap, i only remember it to hate what they did to the only good thing that DC produced on screen in the last years!
I love this new art style actually. It's funny you mentioned muted colors because that was an issue with the new 52 art style not so much in this. This artsyke allows for more flexibility it allows for both serious and light hearted. The other style just had serious.
I dont see how the colors in the dcamu are more muted than the tommorowverse. The color is much more muted in the new universe for sure
Gonna tell you now...JUSTICE LEAGUE WARWORLD is BORING as fu**...I fell asleep on it.
Only seeing this now... That was the worst out of all of them. New video about it live on the channel now.
Man of tomorrow was so good as was the Long Halloween and Justice Society and I didn’t even mind Green Lantern Beware my Power. Warworld was a large disappointment.
Under the red hood has to be up there as one of the better adaptations of the books. Return of the Joker unrated best original story. There's also a Batman anthology movie animated by highly respected Anime artists with their interpretation of the character called Batman Gotham Knight. I hope if they are going to do more adaptations like Kingdom Come fingers crossed it will be high quality CGI like some fan animations using unreal 5. Hell hire the guy who did Superman Awakens CGI film.
So let me get this straight: you’re upset because you went from one franchise with one style of animation to a DIFFERENT franchise with a DIFFERENT style of animation…and the latter isn’t the former.
I’m sorry, but that is dumb.
Literally no. That’s not the case at all. I dislike both.
Batman the long Halloween is the only one that feels necessary to exist because it was actually good.
I miss the old standalone animated DC films and the style of Justice League: Unlimited. I even miss the animated style of Green Lantern: TAS. That was fresh and nice.
I hope they bring back Raven and Damain in the New timeline.
I want to see Reign of the Supermen Superboy back to life again but is literally never going to fucking happen. I would prefer if he was the Superboy in YJ but no nobody wants that but me.
Bruh dark apokolypse war was my favorite animated dc movie.
Um… don’t look at the other videos on my channel. You might not like what you see hahahahahah
@@DareToEntertain don't worry, I didn't and don't plan to.
One of my favorites too.
I’ve liked each film less than the last, until the most recent one. I adored Man Of Tomorrow, I think it’s in my top ten DC animated films, up there with Flashpoint Paradox, Superman Vs The Elite, The Batman Vs Dracula, JL Doom, and Crisis On Two Earths. I thought JSA was pretty good, the Long Halloween films were fine, I despise Beware My Power, then LOSH was ok. For context, I’ve watched every DC film, live action and animated, and so far I’d say this Universe is overall just ok.
Justice League War World sucked don't waste your time!!
lol too late. Saw it. Video coming soon
Jl apocalypse war should have never been made
I just watched Warworld. Wow. What a disaster of a movie. No rhyme or reason to it, disjointed, boring. I have to admit, I could not have cared less about the characters by the end of it, even though I think the green/white martian genetic issue stuff is vastly underused in DC.
Video coming soon. I saw it last night.
@@DareToEntertain crysis on infinite eartths will be last in tomorrowverse and it came out in 2024
Most definitely content on that aswell
@@prixodiydacha8114 Y'all, for real. Imagine Crisis on Infinite Earths as a single 70 minute movie. DC is fucking insane. lol
They traded styles like what we saw in high-grade movies like Flashpoint, The Dark Knight Returns, Under the Red Hood and Crisis on Two Earths for the garbage we're now exposed to? All they have to do is bring back the same formula they used for the Timm-verse and they'll start winning again!
This look like the Tim-verse.
You said at the end you wanted to be more happy with content and superhero wise I’d LOVE to see you cover invincible! (Literally as I typed invincible you said it)
Season 1 I feel is talked to death. And I have nothing to add. However season 2 you bet imma jump on to talk. Invincible is legit one of my fav shows
@@DareToEntertain fair enough! You should read the comic if you don’t care about spoilers. It’s my favorite superhero story ever
I find the Tommorowverse to be quite lackluster. The art style appears subpar, resembling a blend of Archer and comic books, and overall, I consider the Tommorowverse to be rather unimpressive.
am i the only one who likes the new animated universe's style?
No, the animation is dope
Nah i like it too
Me too
Despite flashpoint having a rather odd putting art style and designs, the animation was at its absolute peak and looked beautiful, sadly, I never get that feeling again with these new animated films that look so cheap.
I'd add the universe feels empty. The films barely hold together as a shared universe, aside from the characters dropping a random line acknowledging another film. Kinda peeved the each film starts by showing us a crapton of interesting stuff happened between films but we'll never get to see it (why would you skip the formation of the JL?). Its making the same mistakes as the DCEU but worse. Jump around and make a universe without putting in effort (they literally skip Man of Tomorrow 2 the way DC skipped Man of Steel 2, which would be a great way to expand on Superman characters, like Lex, while introducing characters like Flash, which would make the transition to Justice Society work better). Definitely needed movies to connect the dots better because in the end it feels like there's 5-10 years of content and we only got to see about 20 hours (2 hours per movie) of what it had to offer. If I had to guess, many of these were already planned before DCAMU was canceled and they just wrote in stuff to say it was a different shared universe...
The Jl formation already explained on Crisis 1.
This universe is well connected with shorts and movies, and many limitations came from WB, the creative team told WB to make 20 movies but WB said 10 "take or leave it"
Finally I come across a dc animated movie analysis video that
1. Isn’t just a plot summary
2. Doesn’t think slop like Injustice is good
3. Acknowledges the element of translating artstyles to film
and so on.
I quite like the tomorrowverse but damn i miss the New52
While I hate Tomorrowverse, I miss the DCAMU too. I think calling it The New 52 is part of the problem though. When it started, the New 52 just simply was the comics at the time so what else were they going to adapt. They did what everyone wants, and adapted the then current comics. But then they outlived the New 52 comics...and started doing their own thing a little. Too bad nobody let them drop the New 52 stigma.
I wish WB would start paying much more attention DC animated universe!
Deathstroke(cap)
Lex Luthor(stark)
Black Adam(Thor)
Bring back the DCAMU
I prefer tomorrow verse animation artstyle much better than previous animation of dcau
The character looks way good in tomorrow verse and animation consistent
But in previous dcau animation character design isn't great at all n Superman design sucks the most including his suit colour and the animation is very inconsistent
2:05 while I don't disagree with you, you're comparing a fight scene to a scene of people walking. In anime, fight scenes, especially major ones tend to have extra care and effort put into them, so they'll look better animated than most of the rest of the series. The clip you showed of the one with Supergirl is how the majority of animation in anime look like (not in artstyle obviously)
This was a communication error between me and my editor. We have joked about this clip because in hindsight you are absolutely right. It’s so unfair. It was meant to be two scenes of equivalent importance. This is my bad. I stand by the point AoT and shows like demon slayer in idol standing shots still have vibrancy or contrast in their still images. But yeah. Unfair.
No particular order
1. Batman: Under The Red Hood
2. Batman: Year One
3. Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths
4. Justice League: Doom
5. Wonder Woman: Bloodlines
Edit: I forgot All-Star Superman. 🤦🏻♂️😄
Love this list.
@@DareToEntertain Thanks 😊
@@CosmicPsychonauts in no particular order 1.batman supes public enemies
2. jl war 3. the first ww animated movie everyone hates 4. death of superman 5. hush 6. all star superman 7. shazam animated movie 8. under the red hood 9.crisis on 2 earths 10. son of batman
HEY! I know the audio isnt as good as usual I am sorry. Just moved house. Will get better over time as I move things into this room.
For me this universe started off well, nailing down the characters of Clark/Superman and Bruce/Batman in their early careers but then fumbled really hard with Green Lantern, Supergirl, and especially War World.
Gonna give a chance still because I felt like the new52 movies got better toward the end of its life, but I’m not holding my breath.
The multiverse will eventually return. It always has. I am not okay with the "New direction."
Lore of I HATE The New DC Animated Universe momentum 100
Man of Tomorrow was a masterpiece, but after that, the quality really started dropping off
Warworld is a Snooze fest. Only good story in here was the 1950s black and white sci Fi segment in there. Felt something from the 70s/80s with those classic horror/sci Fi films. Other than that nothing really made a whole lot of sense just looking at this from a stand alone. Didn't connect with other films in this new timeline, didn't explain what (the key is really) just some code locked in DNA of martians for no reason as to why🤷 and Mongol is atrocious in design. Old and withered should be his name... Lobo was just a throw away didn't even need to be there. And did they rio off the final act in Aladin with snake Jafar fight😂😂😂🤭🤭 if this is where animated films are going, this is the end for DC in film of any sort
Implicitly Pretentious did a video on Man Of Tomorrow and he considered it pretty good. What are your thoughts?
I love him. We are mutuals on twitter and talk every now and then. However we have very different opinions DC animated films. He also loves Justice League Dark: AW, which is one of my least favourite comic book films ever period. I may heavily dislike these movies. But if you like them and find UA-camrs who like them then it’s all chill. (Genuinely he is an insane youtuber who we all envy his ability to work as fast as he does as such high quality)
I hate DC animated original movie universe since 2007, because it's too much dark, too much violence, not so family-friendly, I hate warner bros & DC
so far this movie universe has just been bland and basically about nothing. Every movie now there's a villain twist and it never works
I like the art style of the Tomorrowverse. Kinda feels like old school animation but the writing sucks.
I hear you on the art style. It's just not for me.
And phases 1-3 is kang
Phases 4-6 is Annihilus
Phases 7-9 is Galactus yeh
And phase 10 focused on the last phase after this it’s over yeh yeah
My favorite DC animated movie is Batman vs Superman. That team up with Lex Luthor being the the central villain made for a great movie to me. I also like Justice League New Frontier. I am still a fan of the DX animated universe. I will admit that they are struggling as of late. I really loked the New52 universe but felt they ended it too early and some of the stories ahould have been 2 parters. But i still favor DC animated movies over Marvel. I am not a fan so far of the new director of the DC movie universe. But i am willing to give him a chance before making any judgements. But if DC starts taking their time with the animated universe movies like they did with Batman Under the Red Hood, the Flashpoint Paradox, and the 2 part Death of Superman I think the could really make their fan base happy and put out a really good product.
In my opinion the superhero genre peaked with the original DCAU nothing has been that good since well until Into the Spider-Verse came out
I don't even blame you Justice League Dark (war) pissed....me.....off so many dump decisions made that was unlike the characters, missing unanswered reasons why it was a set up to that movie it was terrible bro. They were better off making a whole series than cutting it and using better story telling.
You nailed it on the head. "They were better off making a whole series than cutting it and using better story telling." Why arent these movies longer? I know budget is the boring answer but far out. We always have to MOVE QUICKLY onto the next thing and characters arent able to just exist without plot moving them ahead. There arent set pieces in these movies. Just quick roadblock action scenes that get you to the final fight. Just so sad.
Exactly like imagine the same budget used to make the DCAU movies could have been used to make a series but nope instead they gave us the newest young justice maaaaaaan.
I couldnt even finish season 4. I REALLY need to get back into it. I was even thinking of doing a video on it but just fell off of it.
My question was why in the old verse they only had damian and Dick? No mention of Jason, Tim, Barbara or others
I call 🧢🎓🧢🎓 . This is why we can't enjoy anything new and refreshing. Fickle people who think they know what is best. We all can list things wrong with cinema 📽️😅. But enjoy the moment all. "Life is dangerous shouldn't stop us from living it". The animation is strong. The background details are phenomenal. Fight scenes are on par with anime and Invincible😂(Starwars,JL,Ben Ten, Attack On Titan). Storytelling is world building ("I've never seen this many heroes together")i see the vision why can't y'all. Because its not campy and pandering to today. Stop 🛑 the backlash and be happy DC still is trying to please their animation fans. Unlike Marvel whom never had it😮. Unless we speak of tv shows and even those were few. I appreciate a Green latern movie. A supergirl future movie. A Flash movie y'all bigging up Flashpoint way too much. It's always Batman(My fav) & Superman. Same with DBZ always Goku and Vegeta. When will Goten and Trunks get their shine and take over the series. Heck Picoluo could have another egg out before he dies. And boom a new kid born at same ages of Goten and Trunks rivalry reborn and start from there like HXH. Opinions do matter but when it snuffs out good stuff. Before it starts (Power Rangers 2017) then we are to blame. Otherwise put in the work, try and get hired and submit your high quality work of art. Or do what DBZ heros does and put it on the web. Appreciate the video watched it all in its totally. Hope you fully understand my message if you read it. Also if you can reach Implicitly Pretentiously ask that guy to a video on Gargoyles love to hear that shit✌🏿❤
Yeah. The animation style has definitely regressed since the releases of TDKR and Year One.
It's so overbearingly generic now.
I understand your points, but I have to disagree. I find the Tomorrowverse more interesting than the DCAMU. The art style is more comic-booky (something that I personally prefer), and the the story is more character centered ( something that was missed from DCAMU). Although, I can admit that the plot of the Tomorrowverse 's movies is not as good as DCAMU' s movies.
"New things are bad because I can't accept change."
Or maybe the quality of the new thing is highly questionnable
I quite liked Apokolyps war, call me basic or whatever but i really felt that killing most of your characters and putting the earth in such a point that nothing can be done it's a really good justification on why the universe needs to change so i came to the new DCAU hopeful... Just to see Justice Society and be so dissapointed and irked by it... The animation it's like you said, bland, soulless and as someone that has watched pretty old series i can say that i consider it even worse than them (series like He-man, Thundercats, etc.) i turned it off before the 10 minute mark because i just could'nt watch it
DCAU animation was one of the best I’ve seen. Tomorrowverse killed that light
So infinite crisis killed the tomorrowverse(right ?)
@@tbphillips9649well yeah but no
1. Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Pt. 1 & 2
2. Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox
3. Justice League: War
4. Planet Hulk
5. Spider-Man: Across the Spiderverse
6. Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
7. All-Star Superman
8. Batman: Under the Red Hood
9. Ultimate Avengers 2: Rise of the Panther
10. Ultimate Avengers: The Movie
Just watched Justice league Warworld, what a complete waste of time it was like 3 short stories throughout, then set up for a fuckinh sequel in the last 20mins.
Video coming soon. I hope to see it soon
I don't hate the new universe. I just don't love it. I wished the old universe Was still going...
Okay i thought it was just me, i absolutely hated that they changed the art style, everything looks stiff as hell
Can it possibly be due to an over reliance on Computer generated imaging, Just asking ?
Bruh they killed hal jordan. I Won't Watch it
While it's true that the Tomorrowverse isn't completely perfect, I'd argue it isn't as bad as you think it is.
The Man of Tomorrow movie was a weak start to jumpstart the new animated universe, but Justice Society WW2 and The Long Halloween Part 1 and 2 have been really great additions to this new universe.
It's also pretty debatable if people think the animation and art style is bad, because it honestly isn't. The New52 only have a few movies with good animation and those are Son of Batman, Batman VS. Robin, Batman Bad Blood, Teen Titans The Judas Contract, and The Death of Superman. The rest have been serviceable. I can understand why it's not everyone's cup of tea though, because a lot of people have been so used with the New52 DCAMU Art style.
The New52 artsyle for me got old quick. I do think the death of superman has some good sequences but man... the art style for me just seriously looked so flat to these new movies. The problem really lies with how similar they all are to each other. A superman movie with a massive monster shouldnt look the same as a mystery thriller batman movie.
The really funny part is I have seen so much praise for these movies (the tomorrowverse) on twitter. I was actually kinda worried this would be a Justice League: DAW situation where everyone disagreed and I somehow had a huge hot take.
Thanks for watching the video. I hope to have more as soon as I can.
@Dare To Entertain
That’s why I never buy into the hype of anything. Most hype is manufactured anyways.
They could have gone full Attack on Titan with the stories and full Demon Slayer with the animation... but they didn't.
The two animes I referred to are obviously even more successful and popular than DC's recent animated movies.
Nuff said... Time to get the Japanese to get some actual shit done.
I thought it was me that felt like man of tomorrow was bad, it different feel like man of steel bad, maybe it's superman returns bad but with action.
@marx vargas The DCAMU does use Japanese animators, genius.
i hate the new dcau as well but me personally, i think the young justice universe is the post apokolips war universe
Not sure if its because there are just more dcamu movies but there are far more I just skip on rewatches. But there hasnt been a tomorrowverse movie yet that I would skip
They should have left it like it was before the art and animation went down
Its gonna confuse people
You are totally wrong, the new Dc Animated Universe is also very great and very exciting
For me tomorrowverse didn't even existed
I hate the new DC Universe !! I was just telling someone I cant get pass the new drawing because it looks so bad and much cheaper than the first universe. Superman of tomorrow is the only one I could deal with in the new DC Universe. The last 2 movies Batman : The Doom That Came To Gotham and Justice League: RWBY were too painful to watch the drawn was just extremely terrible.
The first DC animated universe films were good overall. My opinion Batman: Under the red hood is by far the best ever then Batman: Suicide Squad Arkham and Flashpoint is the next best. Those might be debatable to some but I Iove majority of the first DC animated universe.
Im so close to being done with these DC new film’s completely. I dont even know when they are coming out. The first DC universe I knew every movie that was coming out for the year. I watched every preview and anticipated them coming out bit honestly Dc is losing a fan. Now DC need to fix the live version movies and the animated version.
RWBY and DTCTG aren't part of the tomorrow verse dumbass its so obvious it isn't but your tiny little brain can't comprehend things without being spoon fed
I hate it. New dc animated is trash.
Dc animated peaked at justice league apokolips war
But that movie sucks
Flashpoint*
Tomorrowverse not great but better cohesive universe
I actually like the modern sleek style of that last timeline, I was very into the dc animated movies at that time. Can't wait for the flash to give us a new one