Adventure Motorcycle GPS, Garmin ZŪMO XT Install & Review
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- Опубліковано 26 січ 2021
- Do you really need a GPS for your motorcycle? Or can your phone handle it? I installed a Garmin ZŪMO XT to find out. After going on a three day adventure motorcycle trip I found my phone set up wasn't quite up to the task. Will a dedicated motorcycle GPS unit be the answer?
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I needed some motivation to finish my builds. Started watching your videos heavily, and caught lots of inspiration from ya'. Thanks for uploading Jake!
This video dropped at a good time, been looking into one for my KTM on adventure rides 🤘
This is the best review I've seen on this gps. You answered so many of my questions, thank you!!
Great review - thank you! I've just ordered my Zumo XT! Greetings from South Africa!
I have once again fallen into the trap of being inside all day during winter and watching motorcycle vlogs.
Anyways I've sold my Grom and I'm gonna get an adventure bike.
Now I'm super excited for spring.
I had my iPhone XR replaced twice for a bad camera. For sure from the 15k miles mounted on a handlebar. I'm buying one of these come Spring and a new phone so I can take pictures again. Keeping the phone in the pocket and GPS on the handlebar. Thanks for your review. Ride safe all
Hey man! I just installed one of these on my MT-09 and its pretty cool. I also powered it from the same aux plug which is also on the MT-09. I did go with an aftermarket mount to keep it as low profile as possible. It'll definitely come in handy for upcoming trips. I saw a few videos on this unit, but your video sold me on it. Cheers.
Damn that thing is kinda slick...you got me actually considering not using only my phone.
Well done. Interesting tip on the solder connectors. I will check those out (it wont be from amazon. because screw that place) A point I would make is to check the bike schematics, or get some help interpreting them because there might be multiple switched accessory circuits. My bike was actually designed to take the Tom Tom rider...and so I got one. and then I discovered that in a mere 4 years the plug design had changed... Ah well. it works. As for the utility, one thing I found very useful from back in the earliest days is that a GPS permitted me to wander into very odd places and then just tell the GPS to "get me home" and I wouldnt have to deal with backtracking or any nonsense. On modern GPS I really like the motorcycle focused features like filtering roads with a motorcycle trip in mind - paved/unpaved, elevation changes, curves, etc. I havent had a new garmin in a long time, but the Tom Tom really falls down in two key areas: blue tooth blows. in fact phone pairing just to get traffic updates blows. and trip planning away grom the GPS. that site TT makes you use is hot garbage. I ended up using Rever.co to plan a 6000 mile trip and then load the track into the GPS. If I find the garmin at a good discount I will switch to it.
Enjoy your electrical expertise with the relay and fuse. Great video! Thx
Neat install, I really need to redo mine on my Moto Guzzi as I went straight to the battery.
why is Jake like the best teacher that everyone should have.
🤷♂️
Jake coming in with the bike science..
Awesome info. Wanting to get my drz sm set up for dirt this year but need to find some second hand wheels. Been scouring the DFW area for the past few weeks lol.
Heyy! I remembered to come back!!
Something you may want to try in the future is an instant Premier, 1-5 minutes of "wait time" for notification ppl, better interaction b/c we get to be in the live chat with ya, nobody sits for hours and ends up never seeing the video, etc, etc.
You can still do 4-24 hr premiers for videos you don't want many ppl seeing ;P
I scheduled and set them all up the day before, easier that way
@@TheGardenSnake makes sense - mostly just wanted to poke at ya in the B-half of my post.
Didn't know if this would get seen, certainly didn't expect a response! Your videos are the coolest! I've been watching for who knows how long now, and you've inspired me to build & rebuild all my newest bikes. Keep doing what's easiest, man - they have the "set reminder" button there for a reason 😁
Thanks for the video!
J - What size ball mount is included in the kit? Does it fit the 1”, or “B” size Ram ball?
Can you post the part number for the RAM mount you are using in the hand guards? Thank you!
Where do you search for the off road trail you can up load?
Great video dude
What are you using to hear the commands from the Garmin to inside your helmet since it is blue tooth?
Garmin manual says to install direct to the battery with no inline fuse in the harness. I’ve never seen a manufacturer of a motorcycle or auto accessory that doesn’t have an inline fuse.
Hey Jake just wonder where you able to fix your phone camera from vibrating? The same thing happened to me using my ram mount.
The hardware back for the Ram ball mount backing came with some rubber inserts. Where do those go?
If you wire your Zumo on key switched power then every time you stop at a gas station and turn the bike off, you will be shutting off the Zumo to power, what if you are in the middle of a route and the Zumo turns off?
As one comment below states, the manual indicates that the electrical connection should be made straight to the battery. Is the black box on the power wire perhaps an electronic fuse/relay of some sort? Seems most simple to connect straight to the battery on my bike (CRF300L) as I am already using the accessory connection under the headlight for a USB socket. Yes, I know I could just power the GPS from there, but since the mounting cradle has the power, prefer to use that if possible. Jake, based on manufacturer instructions, are you still recommending against wiring straight to the battery?
And here I am trying to figure out how I am going to mount this to my 09' Suzuki burgman 650
LoL ive been debating between this unit or the Trail Tech voyager pro for a week now ................ i am not tech savvy but cant it be plugged into the cig light type outlet ?
I prefer to have my GPS use constant power, and then I put a toggle switch in the circuit that will allow me to turn off power to the unit when I want to. That's partly because I use GPS most often on snowmobile, which means that without external power it will often shut off despite having a battery, because of the cold. Secondly, depending on the GPS unit, it might prompt you every time it loses power to know whether it should stay on or not. The GPS shutting off can make a mess of your tracks and trip data, as it take time to power up and re-aquire satellites every time.
Better to power it on all the time. When you stop to get gas and shut off your bike, if you have it through the accessory circuit, it will power down. That's a pain. I want it to stay on all the time. I'm going to take it off the bike if I am leaving the bike to get lunch or camp or whatever. Just my 2 cents. I have my Zumo mounted on my Goldwing and on my CRF450L. Love it. Thanks for the video.
MR JawMaster I have mine working fine hard wired with the fuse straight to battery. This is ok if I never intend to leave it on the bike when not riding or for more than a fuel stop, right?
@@Garagecouchofjohnnyyz you bet, only time its drawing power is when it's attached. Nothing more irritating than stopping to get gas or whenever you shut off your bike like on a trail to talk to someone and your gps shuts off and restarts.
what gloves are you using in this video?
I own four Garmin's, this is the best!
I've just bought a Zumo XT and could not figure out the internal battery charging. Turning on the Zumo the internal battery symbol was way down to just slice of yellow. The USB cable seems to be able to operate the Zumo but I could not see any evidence of adding a battery charge. The little battery symbol didn't change with the Zumo XT turned on or off on USB wall charger. Then I thought the Zumo XT was defective and sent it back to Garmin. Well, the replacement acted the same way. Just great! That means more information was needed. So, what I found was the Garmin will not charge the internal battery with any USB attempt (cables/chargers). It needs the motorcycle mount attached to the back with a 12vdc power source AND the Garmin must remain turned on to charge the internal battery. That is nuts. MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH - Power from the rear mount and Garmin must kept ON to charge the internal battery. TIP- to see the detail about what is happening with the internal battery using your finger touch the little battery symbol on the main screen for about 5 seconds and the unit goes into diagnostic mode and shows a Ka-billion bit of data on the battery. Percent charge is useful and current (milliamps) going into the battery when on the 12 vdc source. Any USB cable/charger shows ZERO milliamps going int the battery to confirm everything I've said. To get out of the diagnostics press EXIT at the left most bottom button and the unit will flash twice and reboot. There are more lessons on the interaction between the Basecamp and Garmin Express computer programs is confusing. Also, the intuitiveness of the Basecamp is a FAIL. Give yourself many hours to figure out even the basics of the Basecamp. And that is on top of linking the PC programs to the Zumo and the Zumo to your phone with another app (Garmin Drive) and your helmet com. It's been a long road and I haven't even got the Zumo on the bike yet. Yee- Hawww !
That’s crazy you had to go through all that. Literally installed it and it’s worked fine the whole time for me. I have seen that of it doesn’t get used for several weeks and it’s in the garage in winter the battery will get really low. But I fire the bike up and it pops right on. And like an hour of riding zaps it all the way up. Sorry you had such a headache with yours.
Adventure biking has changed you Jake. There is a couch at 11:33 that you didn't ride on. Old Jake would have been all over that shit haha.
Haha next time
Lol I got a used garmin nuvi for $25 works amazing they were tripple that on amazon even used 🤘
2 1/2 our drive each way on way back turned on Google maps and was just as good 👍 just bought a mount to put it on my visor
I have the same garmin as you. I had a couple complaints hopefully they fixed on the newer models. But when you start typing the garmin doesnt register it sometimes and just randomly starts typing random letters and then starts searching on its own. Super annoying
Oh that’s annoying. Haven’t seen that with this one some maybe it’s fixed.
Hi Jake just watch video on the Garmin. I just pick up one few weeks ago. Question how hard would it be for someone with no no Mechanical Experience to do this. And are you located in New Jersey.
Shouldn't be too hard, I'm in Texas
That final installation looked OEM from the riders point of view. Great explanation of the issues of using a phone. I get tired of people putting their phone in a Tupperware container and bungieing it to the head stock then announcing that they are winning.
Do a review on a trail tech gps.
Great video! Does having it hardwired effect battery life?
it is hard wired though auxiliary power. That's only when key is on.
pro tip: if you're relying on gravity to get your solder where you want it, you're doing it wrong. when the wire gets hot enough, the melted solder will be attracted to it like a magnet and the wire will soak it up like a sponge.
“Gravity” isn’t really needed. The heat shrink is squeezing it enough that by the time the solder gets hot it’s forced into every crevice. But hear you.
First time I tried to use my phone in my tank bag, it overheated and shut down.
Is that little button hanging off your RSC a clutch switch?
Fog light. But in the build series I did on that bike I did address that. The pass light switch now tricks the bike to thinking the clutch is in. So if I’m in gear and need to start I pull the clutch in and hold the button down.
How are you recording your voice inside the helmet? I don't see any cables connected to the gopro. Thanks!
Zoom H2n in my backpack. Cable runs down the back of the helmet. GoPro audio has been way too unreliable.
@@TheGardenSnake Thanks!
Nobody going to mention the mounting screws in the bracket being backwards? Those little stud nubs sticking out would drive me crazy
Thats how they go
dos the gps need a subscription ?
No
Phones SUCK for motorcycle GPS. on a bright day you can't see it at all. This XT has the brightest screen going in the sunlight from my understanding. I'll be replacing my Zumo 550 dinosaur with this one for sure, retiring my phone for what it was designed to do.....phone stuff. A lot of people bitch about the screen on the XT getting fingerprinted easily but maybe if you get a matt screen protector that will for sure eliminate the fingerprints and cut glare at the same time. You can get a small tablet matt protector and cut-to-fit. I did that with my Zumo550 and it worked great, you may need just a little more pressure on the screen with your finger but not much.....that depends on the protectors thickness so go thin.
yes jake is a wizzard
These are $100 off on amazon right now.
I wish I was a bit handier
Interesting, but i never had any of these problems on my adventures, but that's anecdotal, or maybe it isnt, iphones do be garboge loll
This was a problem for chris too who had an android
Garmin gps works great, as long as you have a signal...same as a phone Lol 😆
Not the case, you don’t need a signal, just be able to see satellites.
Huh? Maybe you should visit the wiki pages for gps and cellular technology...
@@dustinmoilanen7912 the GPS satellites are moving across the sky from north to south and south to north, in a Low Earth Orbit, your GPS just needs to pickup a group of them to work. You don’t need the phone network.
@@michaelwilliams3861 dude we are on the same page. I’m pointing out to motorcycle mike that his comment on signal is a bit uninformed and you elaborated the details. Same page.
been rockin a chinese kingkong3 phone for 2 years now... she's bulletproof.. water/dust proof with no case.. 6000mah battery.. I charge it once a week..and built in GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS receiver .. no cell signal needed.. but china can see me taking dic picks... its worth it...lol
😂
Garmin just reduced the price to $399.
...your phone overheats? Dang, iPhone life must suck.
Had the same issues with two different android phones and also broke the cameras in them. LG and a Samsung.
@@TheGardenSnake I still blame the iPhone, lol. Somehow, it's all apple's fault.
the reason offline maps dont work when you are out of celurar coverage is because even thothe map is offline the phone stll needs coverage to know where you are on the map . The offline feature just saves you some mobile data when using GPS .
Oh ok ok, it says it’s saving all the date from that area but clearly it doesn’t save all of it
false - GPS does not use cellular service to get your location. done the BDR all using offline maps on my phone with zero issues. if you can see the sky GPS works, GPS is one way communication your gps/phone just sniffs out the gps signal from the many satellites floating around then uses those to triangulate your location.
GpS hAs DiReCt cOnNeCtIoN tO ReAl TiMe SaTeLlItE.
Yeah when there's no trees or buildings.
I can’t imagine trees breaking up the signal that much
@@TheGardenSnake I've had it happen a few times but they were with cheaper units and while not so much trees as buildings. Houses and smaller buildings are no problem. This might have a better solution for that. I used to have one that had a dome antenna and that thing was impossible to confuse. Not sure where you'd mount the antenna on a bike though. LMAO.
Fuckin piece of shit falls out of the mount from getting hit by branches
Made a whole mounting system after picking this thing up after 3 days after losing it in the bush
Oh no
This is a sad attempt at these companies desperately trying to sell their outdated and unnecessary equipment, at equal cost of a smart phone, which obviously offers much more than simple GPS navigation.
I live in Florida (very hot and humid) and have never once had any serious issues using my phone, not even in the dead of summer. Go ahead and spend hundreds of dollars and take your bike apart, if you want to, but these are new times and this crap is outdated.
I wish you'd stop doing the premier crap. Just upload the video Jake. I always forget to come back and watch it. 👎
1-10 minute "Instant Premier" works extremely well tho, IMO - gives some latency for notifications to go out and be seen, Jake can be in chat a little longer to interact w/ us some, nobody waits for hours on an idle screen / doesn't end up getting to see the video, yatta yatta - I hope, if not a normal upload, we start seeing Instant Premier -type uploads
get an android , u won't have that issue ever again
What a laugh, every person who was given one to demo never actually tell you the bad points, generally because you take them out for 30 minutes and just quote manufacturers blurb... This unit is not worth the 500 dollars or so in euros €435... my value of its worth is €120 tops
Simple facts like the resolution is almost half that of a phone!.... which makes zooming in and out pathetic , you can loose a whole town with one tap on the zoom icon... The battery duration I have found to be approximately 90 minutes, which doesn't matter when connected to bike, planning routes etc it can, then takes four hours to charge from a wall charger because they do not supply a garmin charger which is quicker!!! You don't know how much charge is in battery unless you unplug it!!!!! Goes like every other sat nave in a city, bonkers, voice commands one direction, map says another!!!! Load your own POIs???
Well I'm still trying to figure that one out ..
This technology is old and tired, so they tarted it up with a short skirt and lots of make up....!!!! TOTAL dissapointment
I disagree with you on basically everything and find your complaints to be silly. You phone will turn off from heat in about 5 mins sitting out in Texas. The camera will break from vibrations. The resolution is perfect for what it's meant for, you trying to watch netflix or something my dude? I don't care what the battery duration is, it's powered from the bike. It's a lot more than a car gps, lots of off road adventure features. I've built a number of trails and have ton downloaded now. I've also used this on several trips now where I needed a GPX map. Worked great, those videos are on here. I wish I had this for my first trip, would have saved so many headaches when everyone's "off line maps" decided not to work.