Why are Aesthetics Bros SO OBSESSED With Anime? (CONTROVERSIAL ANALYSIS!)
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- Aesthetics bros are obsessed with jacked anime dudes. How ironic!
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Guys if I do a HARD leg day, heavy squats and hinges, can I do standing OHP the next day ?
Nah, better do a seated version. Your lower back will probably be killing you due to soreness and your cns might be fried
How did I miss this gem 😂😂 unfortunately, I can't help you. I think we need to ask fitnessfaqs this question
Seated Arnold Press will do it. Trust
You must not do your leg training for 7284 years after doing one set of ohp
Alec woke up and chose violence
And I'm here for it
😂
That's understandable
🤣🤣
Now we just have to wait for a 1 hour long response video by Natural Hypertrophy
may the cope begin
#functionoverasthetics
That's going to be interesting.
Ngl, as soon as NH admitted he can barely jump or sprint for shit I was like "maybe bodybuilding isn't really for me."
Idk why he has to shit on powerbuilding tho. Aren't BOM & Alex Leonidas the ultimate example of a powerbuilder?
@@texasbeaver8188 BOM says that he's naturally strong a lot of times but doesn't seem to care about big 3 numbers unlike Alex who has talked about chasing elite strength numbers, doesn't shit on strength standards and also had a phase where he specifically worked to a 405 bench PR
@@texasbeaver8188Alex and BOM are pinnacle powerbuilders imo, yes
@@backcure3621you can be a powerbuilder without chasing big 3 specifically, as far as I see it
Me (Literally Baki) watching this video: 🤨
I'm Vegeta
Sorry bro, I'm Baki so you can't be Baki😡
Oh! Oh! I wanna be Zodd!
As long as I get to be pickle
I thought I was Baki
Erybody wanna be Goku but don't nobody wanna train in a hyperbolic ass time chamber
absolutely, and that's the big problem with anime bros, they are most of the time disconnected from reality. If i had Saiyan workout's abilities and recovery, i'd fucking love doing a 10 hour long workout on a 30x gravity chamber in my way to Namek, doing HS push ups and shit lol
Legit lol
That’s why Jason Blaha represents peak anime ideology.
He is a member of the Godhand, after all
I'm not into anime personally and I train for size. But my performance is still very high in my opinion and I refuse to believe any big natural doesn't have good performance. They're gonna be pretty darn strong, maybe not as strong as the dude focusing purely on strength, but definitely still up there. And if they wanted to train for sprinting or jumping abilities it's not a major shift.
This guy gets it , that's it u'll have to get "Stronger" as a Natty Bodybuilder but u won't be as Strong as someone who's focusing on strength or as athletic as someone who focuses on power ... The same way they won't be as jacked and aesthetic as someone who focuses more on hypertrophy...
So its all about prioritizing , but he made it out to be as if all the noble natties are Meatheads who can't even walk because of how big their muscles are and only trains fluff and pump with cables only like PED users ..
U'll get Stronger that's inevitable but much *Slower* ..
Even u can look at someone like BasementBodybuilding , if u see him now u'll think he's weak asf in comparison , because he focuses on maximizing the stimulus and getting more out of less but when he was training for Powerlifting he said he had a 1,500 total .. so not weak at all !
Well said man. I think the natty status is definitely relevant here. Any natty that has gotten big knows the work capacity and athleticism it takes.
@@JDirty-w-tha-30 I've played sports all my life and can still jump higher and sprint faster than the average person. Bodybuilding has in no way restricted that.
@@JDirty-w-tha-30 Fair, I stupidly assumed you said something you hadn't.
@@JDirty-w-tha-30 I would say in general learning to train your body in one discipline will carry over to others. For example if you can build a big body naturally then you probably have given yourself the tools to be good at other sports. I would also argue the inverse as well. I would say that building your muscles will make you better at most sports within reason. However obviously it won’t make you as good as specific training for that. I also did athletics and manual labor before lifting weights so maybe my view is skewed a little bit. But most natural lifters I’ve seen are also good athletes.
But if we talk about "function" , isn't it the same also about Powerlifters who gets pretty obese to hit one single every 15min and take a nap afterward and they can't run or jump for sh*t ?
But they fullfil their function tho , its the same for *Natural* bodybuilding they fullfil their goal of being big jacked and somewhat strong .. or is it because it doesn't have hard numbers it doesn't count as being "functional" ?
Alec has a vid called powerlifting is not strength training. So, no, he does not think powerlifting is the ultimate function either
@@cjparkeffaking4551 But it doesn't matter what he think about them (respectfully) i am talking about his argument about Function.. they serve their function and goal .. which is being so damn strong which is one of the functions he talked about in the video ...
And i know he shit on extremes and wants people to be a hybrid athletes which i respect ..
However i am only talking about his argument about Function and being strong .. and could even get to the anime analogy too , if the main character is too heavy to move but he won't be effected by any punches the villain is throwing and he can defeat him with only one punch without having to move a lot because of how strong he is ...
Will it matter then if he can jump and move around and being athletic? , No he served his function and saved the world regardless .. which is his argument...
Can't wait for the NH response. This is gonna be a good discussion!
Maybe it'll get a Jaxblade response (deadass Jaxblade is way less cringe)
@@uexkeru *way more cringe
I can handle 2011 brony banners on a page better than some guy who watches Berserk to understand Marcus Aurelius and takes himself seriously @@pissy4476
@@uexkeruIm not a fan of both since i think theyre both cringe but youre lying to yourself if you think Jaxblade is less any cringe. That guy knows what audience he caters to(anime fans who dont wanna look like theyre into gym culture)
Jax doesn't transfer as well to bodybuilders, but he's mostly spot on for his target audience who are a mix of couch potatoes, cosplayers and amateur athletes. He also has a decent grounding in athletics, although some of his older content sucked.@@epicotakugamer4930
It's human nature to like aesthetics given the countless amounts of visual arts and heroic stories from many cultures across the world. So there's nothing wrong with pursuing the look of characters you like.
There's nothing right about it either
@@kennethg9277Nah, it's totally fine. As long as you have realistic expectations
By his logic why is he strong like a dbz character gets to be able to fight INSTEAD of actually learning to fight?
Anime, Cartoons, comics, ancient myths and legends. Why do guys who want to improve their bodies idolize physical fantasy characters who do amazing feats? It’s been that way no matter the medium.
Anime has no cultural links to ancient myths ffs...Stop coping
@@ThePitPony OP didn't suggest that there was a cultural link between them?? The point was drawing inspiration from fantasy characters
@@ThePitPony jeez dude lighten up 🤣🤣
@@Madchris8828don’t mind him he is emotionally immature
@@ThePitPony the kind of anime I came across had soft, skinny guys
I see your point but this is a much more similar argument to bodybuilders than you’d think. It’s easy to have these types of opinions when coming from the other side. A lot of bodybuilders don’t care about “function” because it’s not all that useful in day to day life. If bodybuilding improves the way you look and makes you more fit than 99% of people why would it matter? Being able to lift decent weight for many reps is also useful, and being bigger is also useful in life. You command more respect etc. In normal life you never really have to exert maximal strength in anything, same goes for speed, agility etc. so having above average to middle of the pack stats in those categories isn’t bad. It’s just not specialized. But as a human you don’t have to be great at any one thing, all goals are somewhat equal to the people that enjoy them.
And the same goes for people like you (which I’d count myself as tbh). It’s cool to be able to move like a superhero but is it a more noble goal than bodybuilding? Well if you think it is then yeah. But the goal of building muscle simply to live longer and look better isn’t vain or stupid. It’s just another goal. Why is building muscle to look better a worse goal than building athleticism and power to move better? When do we ever jump a hurdle in real life. Or better asked when have you ever jumped one in your day to day life? When have you had to lift something over 300 pounds? A lot of what we do in the fitness world is arbitrary and above and beyond. We’re all nerds doing much more than we have to because we’re obsessed. So I get your point but everyone that loves what they do have things to say about opposite but similar goals. We can respect all sides 🖤
Good comment.
@@SaturnReturns ty brother. Just tryna stay rational. Both sides have good points
@@JDirty-w-tha-30 yeah I agree, it is possible to train for a sport or general performance and get jacked because of it. It’s just not as direct a path. But the important thing to know is that you won’t be superior if you choose to get aesthetics as a byproduct. We’re all on the journey to self improvement. Btw have a nice day man 😊
@@JDirty-w-tha-30It's not really a two for one thing though, pursuing both rarely gets you amazing at one, let alone focusing on something else. I know a lot of people that train for powerlifting and for performance, can put up high totals and still look lackluster. And that is with 5+ years of training. Most of the aesthetic "functional" lifters have to get far more advanced to look as good as when they would focus on bodybuilding. Look at the progress people like Alex Leonidas and Bald Omni Man are making once they started focusing on appearance. It's very noticeable compared to someone like Omar Isuf who hasn't really made all that much gains over the same time frame. Even Alan Thrall is making noticeable gains in less than half a year of training and it would take him much longer to get the same progress by training for function. That is assuming he would even get there.
This entire thread is a bunch of insecure guys crying about another community of guys that's more obsessed with their appearance than strength
First, this youtuber is pretty dumb, whether you like anime or not men have been doing things to attract woman since ever.
In the 80s it was about dressing like a woman ffs.
The biggest losers are the ones looking for imperfections in other men.
Why do you think everybody outside of this community thinks everyone here is kinda sus?
I mean look at yourself "bigger size means you command more respect" until you cross the line with a martial artist who
Unlike you actually knows how to use his body.
Which leads me to my next point, are you always looking at a builder when you see a strong athlete?
Bodybuilders aren't even very strong. You ain't lifting any big rocks.
I can't imagine how you disrespect different sports,
Seriously the dumbest thing of all is the fact that you don't even know what "anime" looks like
Every endurance athlete on the planet can be considered "anime build"
Because they actually have cardio 😂
Bodybuilding is bodybuilding, and I respect the sport and understand it well.
But the community 😂 especially all of you non competitive talkative toxic wannabes, the bodybuilding community is by far the lamest to interact with
Like, I looooove sports, and every community I've been in is great
Body builders don't have much to talk about other than argue about nutrition.
Who doesn’t wanna look like Goku?
0:25 i feel called out
1. I would say that we aspire to have the physique of anime characters rather than the abilities because the physiques (while insane) are way more achievable than the abilities (the physique of goku vs his strength 💀) therefore we can have something somewhat human to shoot for.
2. Training for pure aesthetics makes you pretty damn strong anyway, maybe not at specific lifts due to lack of neurological adaptation, but all that muscle still makes you brutally strong in a general “real world” sense. Top strength athletes do A TON of bodybuilding work as im sure you know.
3. 9:20 “the spolier itself has nothing to do with the car’s ability to go fast” I think this is a pretty bad analogy as the amount of muscle you have has a lot to do with strength. The main predictor of bench press strength is the amount of muscle in the chest, for example.
Ppl seem to forget that guys like olympic weight lifters do "bodybuilding" work to build muscle/strength, just lift explosively.
Chest size is not the main predictor of bench strength when the triceps are the main mover of bench the chest is there to stabilize along with the rotator cuffs and lats. Main predictor would probably be triceps but then again muscle size doesn’t equate to muscle strength nor does having muscles in general equate to have effective you for GPP (general physical preparedness) in the real world
@@SupaFlyBall bro what how the fuck is the chest not the main mover in the bench press. The triceps is highly involved as well as the shoulders but its no way the main mover, its a bench not a pushown. A bigger muscle is a stronger muscle so yes it does equate to strength and a bigger muscle is often a more endurant muscle so more muscle will mean greater GPP in most cases
@@columodonnell9202 w pfp
Natural Hypertrophy: "Ahhhhh sheeeeit. Here we go again"
I dont think this was a direct shot at him, NH promotes getting strong on heavy compounds just as much lol
@@flaffa4837only as a means to an end though
@@flaffa4837he mention people putting anime in the thumbnail of the video, there is 2 people that do that NH and bald omni man so of caurse he was talking about them.
@@argent087 he refers to aesthetic bros lol. if NH is so sensitive that he actually feels addressed by this, than that's his own problem. I don't see BOM making a hour long response about pure nonsense. They're both promoting strenght training across a variety of compound exercises in order to get bigger and stronger. There's no reason for argument
I'd rather be jacked and deadlift 315 than small and deadlift 500+
Good thing you can get jacked and deadlift 230 kg+
It's funny you say this, I actually got inspired to train functionally because of Anime and Cartoons. I remember seeing Power Rangers as a kid and wanting to jump and do back flips like the characters. Or seeing Goku train with master Roshi and wanting to do similar things. Or just fight like Batman.
Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome to look like these characters, but I primarily wanted to move like them first foremost.
Before anyone says anything, I know Power Rangers is not an Anime or a Cartoon.
No one was going to say anything@@shonenspiritbeast1563
I agree man! Dragon ball and Baki are so inspiring!
I can see what you are attempting. But it honestly just sounds like a bodybuilding vs powerlifting argument that’s been condensed to sound different.
This seems like such pointless discussion to have
Damn bruh😂why you have to go so hard😂bodybuilding is a specialty, that's all there is to it. And im pretty sure this only applies to enhanced guys, cause if your natural and you get pretty jacked, your almost certainly pretty strong, can probably run pretty fast, and depending on whether or not your serious about training, you probably have a decent gas tank from doing consistently long cardio. When most people think of bodybuilding they just think of juiced up freaks that lift 5 pounds for a gazzilion reps😂but that is no way the majority of people who like to bodybuild. And whats wrong with just looking like something? Like a lot of professions in this world, they don't really form any benefit to society, like artists and authors, do they really contribute much in terms of progress? Not really unless your a nonfiction author, so I think the argument that sense it serves no purpose means its useless just diminishes a lot of peoples entertainment and joy in life.
(Hopefully I don't get clowned in the comments😅😭)
You are not wrong and I do agree to an extent, but I do think you overrate how many people do cardio. There is a reason cardio is clowned on so much, and why so many people recommend going on ellipticals and things. Most people definitely cannot run a good kilometre, especially not weighted. There are exceptions, obviously, but I feel like even most naturals take cardio very non-seriously. Having a decent run compared to the average person because the average person is fat and has never done exercise in their life is not a good indicator, but it is better than nothing.
This. I think you and I basically said the same thing in our comments. The spirit of it is the same anyways. Many things held in regard in our society could be construed as meaningless. Bodybuilding in contrast seems rather meaningful if you dig under the surface. But that's just my pov.
Completely rational and from where I sit correct opinion. Btw don’t worry about getting clowned man, you have your stance on the topic so who cares what someone else would think. You made more sense than a lot of people in this comment section blinded by hate, jealousy, and bias
im always torn between whether I care more about asthetics or function tbh. i try to stay functional in the ways i care about like ring work(dips, pushups, pullups, front and back lever pulls), climbing rope, and being able to do coordination/mobility stuff like pistol squats.
i think my main gripe with bodybuilding is the stressing about working certain muscles with certain frequencies of certain volume and fitting that into a program that fits my schedule. it kinda makes it unfun tbh. Id rather just hit some OHP/dips and pullups and call it a day.
I mean you can do every single lift that you mentioned in a hypertrophy context. All of youtube's naturals use all the lifts that you said, with possibly the exception of pistol Squats because they're not a very good exercise
I would argue that the physical appearances of strongman and sumo, while not appealing to the traditional sense of aesthetics, are still integral to the success of the sport. There's reason its called "Giants Live" and why Mark Felix's hands or Tom Stoltman's feet are in the booklets they give out at shows. Mass Monsters like Shaw, Eddie, Thor, Z etc. are an attraction in their own right simply for how freaky they are. And then you have guys like Pudz and Wide Pavlo, whose aesthetics are crucial to their popularity alongside their insane performances. Aesthetics doesnt just mean shredded
@@JDirty-w-tha-30 Explain to me how pursuing a world record deadlift or a title or a belt for their own sake is any less vain than bodybuilding. If anything, bodybuilding is less vain if its what makes truly makes you happy and you only strength train for the approval of others. Both aesthetic bros and functional bros are reaching for an idealized goal that, if you live in a first world country with a low crime rate and safe infrastructure, is only of marginal utility in everyday life. The guy who got a deadlift of 400lbs by bodybuilding is just as useful at moving furniture around as the guy who focused on strength to get a 600lb deadlift. The nature of the world is social, so if anything, by looking better than the functional guy, the aesthetic guy, on average, might have more connections and social resources at his disposal to help others than the functional bro, making him more useful to others and thus less selfish and vain in his pursuit.
And if he's bodybuilding because he likes it and the other guy is "functional training" because some random dude on the internet told him that he has to or else he is somehow failing at life and is a miserable weeb loser, then he is better off. He's also probably got fewer aches and pains that come part and parcel with high level strength/ performance training and definitely is a better person to be around, not just because they look better but because they're attaining self-actualisation and the other is not.
To be clear, I'm not trying to shit on functional bros, but man, they just need to let natural bodybuilders to do their thing and stop coping about (consciously or unconsciously) not liking how they look in the mirror by embracing either bodybuilding itself or embracing the fact that the body they see is a result of their pursuit of functional performance and stop caring about how others train. At the end of the day, we're all lifters, we're all hell-bent on self-improvement and we're both a lot more aesthetic and functional than the average joe. There is absolutely no need to critique the values or character of other archetypes of natural lifters.
@@JDirty-w-tha-30How tf is bodybuilding useless? It is one of the most useful things you can do and arguably much more useful than training for function.
I trruuuly love anime, and I do train primarily for looks, but strength is a close second, and I also train flexibility because being able to kick super high is extremely cool imo. I train mainly because of aesthetics, but I do care about strength and fighting capacity to a lesser degree, and chasing size made me extremely stronger than the average men, also because I love going to failure with heavy barbell stuff, I rarely go beyond 10 reps and half the stuff that I do are compound lifts
Form is function. How you look matters (to yourself and those around you). The fact is I don’t need anymore muscle than I had two years ago, there is nothing in even a really demanding day that I couldn’t do. But I like the idea of the physique that I am aiming for, and the benefits that come along with it are an additional nice to have. Whether you’re inspired by anime a sportsperson or anything else, any aim that will directly or indirectly improve your physical health or strength should be applauded by the community.
Great video brother❤
I have hit the like button. I cant wait to watch this one after work lol
Lmao we were literally talking about this in the dms!! Gonna spend the whole day now watching NHs twelve part unedited video series response after this lol
Honestly, I suspect a lot of anime fans who lift also prioritize strength. You might not notice them comparing your strength to anime characters though, because strength is about the numbers you can lift/move and has little relation to any single character, while your physique can look more similar to one anime character than another making physique comparisons more likely. Personally, I've been a big anime fan and strength is my biggest priority for training, even if I train bodybuilding-style to build mass.
What’s your thoughts on Geoffrey verity schoffield saying he doesn’t lift heavy or doesn’t try to keep putting more and more weight on the bar since he can make great muscular gains at lower weights?
Your content is absolutely fantastic.
I did start to really watch your channel recently. AND DUDE! The knowledge you share is working even for me that do only calisthenics.
Keep up with the good work
Thanks man!
I've seen a few people missing the point.
He's clear (4.00 onwards) that he's addressing a very specific crowd: "aesthetic bro culture" where "looking good is the ONLY (emphasis mine) thing that matters, any physical capabilities attained are attained as a side effect... many of these guys seem to pride themselves on being weak for their size". He notes the irony of people within this culture being 'obsessed with anime (the topic of this video), suggesting "it's their performance attributes which make [them] want to acquire their aesthetic attributes in the first place", and that the characters wouldn't be "nearly as fucking cool" if they weren't physically capable.
He THEN goes on to cite bodybuilding's popularity relative to other sports (including crossfit and strongman), as evidence of this assertion, suggesting humanity (in general) has an 'inherent distaste' for people (especially men) putting form over function. And I think it's a fair point, male underwear models aren't being paid the mega bucks like their female counterparts, and they're often even a point of ridicule.
He's not saying you have to become Baki to "become physically superior in some way", nor is he saying you need to neglect, side-line, or even deprioritise aesthetics when doing so. He's pointing out the incongruence between being motivated by these characters WHILE simultaneously not caring at all about performance, if not outright celebrating a relative lack of it.
Pro bodybuilders make way more money than pro strongman. Earning your pro-card as a bodybuilder is enough to guarantee mega-bucks, you dont even need to compete that often. In strongman however, only the top 5 or so in the world can afford to actually do it full time if they want to actually accumulate wealth. And that's only in the last 10 or so years, whereas bodybuilding has been mainstream since Arnold, before the modern sport of strongman even existed in the form we recognise today.
I think all the people I follow that love anime are powerlifters… then again I don’t follow any “aesthetic bros” lol
Not a bad video, you make some good points. Personally, I have very long limbs with a short torso, with terrible levers for strength, and I'm naturally lean, so it's a much better choice to play to to my strengths and train for aesthetics when I've always sucked at strength/performance. I'd rather do what I'm good at than swim upstream and struggle to keep up with something that I am bad at and also have no interest in, but I can't speak for everyone as this is my own personal experience.
Good video though, I like it when people start discussion and debate over controversial or heated topics.
Long limbs are good for other athletic endeavors.
Isn't that body type good for alot of martial arts?
Unless you're actually seriously deformed, you're totally wrong about your "i have terrible leverages" shtick. It's just odd.
long limbs and short torso are good for deadlift and unless you look like cartoon character you can probably tweak your form on squat and bench
Oh boy this will be spicy
I think this guy is just using anime as way to attack dudes who want to focus on aesthetics more than strength. People just post jacked anime characters because there fans of the show and like the character, it’s not that deep. And I don’t know where he’s getting this mindset that jacked dudes are not strong or can’t perform. Most jacked guys I know (natural) are pretty fucking strong, obviously not as much as a power lifter or strength athlete, but can still lift a decent amount of weight.
Hey man, I've been following you for quite some time but it's my first time noticing the tattoo on your left forearm! What does it say?
I’m watching Vinland saga right now and thorfinn is incredibly jacked in season 2, it’s excellent motivation. In a story about how violence and using your superior strength to hurt others only makes the world hell, I’d say the more impressive thing thorfinn has honed is his mind, just like his father said “a real warrior needs no sword.” The mental benefits of lifting will always be more substantial day to day than the physical, you and the bodybuilders are both looking for side effects of the most important result. Hypertrophy training is grueling and painful, just as much as strength training, both are great avenues for honing the mind. If you want something there will be sacrifice and the greatest of any field always have the mindset that pain and fear are no object in it’s pursuit.
Alec I tend to flex my lower back on deadlift and squat, obviously it’s a matter of bracing
But I want to strength my lower back, I’m waiting for a video on bulletproof the lower back
Bro have you seen Anatoly? I would love for you to do something like this, I have been watching you for a long long time I know how strong you are it would be awesome 💪
Say the wrong thing here and Bald Omniman will teleport behind you and slice you in half
Alec’s opinion good or bad doesn’t bother me at all. That type of dialogue doesn’t contribute to 20 inch arms
@@BaldOmniMan I was just making a joke I love both of you, plz don't cut me in half with a sword so big and dull it can hardly be called a sword
@@harleyzethoh I know lol no sword chopping will occur
I love your channel!
3:29: alec a dbz fan confirmed
I was just waiting for you to reference what Cell said to Trunks that bigger is not better LOL
Hey Alec, I wanted to ask, what happened to the forest of wolves branding? I remember you used to have that at the beginning of every video.
That was before I started Enkiri Elite Fitness!
I’m waiting for the response videos 😂
This isn't an "controversial analysis" this is just clickbait garbage for bigger channels to get worked up and talk about you.
You of all people, should be psyched that many young men are being inspired to train.
But no...because it's anime, you have to whine and cry about why people should just train for "functionality" even though training as a whole....IS training for functionalities.
At least these people are inspired to train. If you're against that, you have no bussiness being a coach. Straight up.
You are entitled to your opinions, but this is one that you should've just kept inside. You messed up.
Imagine how full of yourself you have to be for bashing somebodies inspiration to be better 💀 . This is S tier bait for sure , and after he has his little pop he’ll go back to being unknown and unwatched .
Man what are your thoughts on the recent SSF and Hersovyac situation?
The discussion is just pointless and is trying to put a style of training above the other. Train for what you want and train how you like as long as it is honest and makes you healthier and happier.
If you don't care about a certain goal or training style don't feel forced to do something you don't appreciate. And if you see some one else training different just be happy he is bettering himself focus on you and stop putting down others just to validate your training choice.
As a natural trainee, aside from some exception, whether your goal is strength/performance or size/aesthetics, by prioritising one you'll get like 80% of the benefits of the other.
I havent met a big natural who's focus is bodybuilding that isn't the strongest guy in most rooms he walks into. Likewise, powerlifters (caveat here; up to around 100kg in weight) are often the most jacked person in the room.
Pro bodybuilding is a different thing entirely. While I do respect their work ethic, at the pro level its just a contest to see who has the best generics
Insecure guy spouting delusional statements
Short asnwer: because looking jacked and stacked is hella cool
I am one of the ones who was inspired to train my physical “performance” because of animes/cartoons. It’s mostly the younger guys who train to match anime aesthetics. Characters like Goku inspired me to take on physical challenges which I believe is the basis of his character, not his appearance.
My takeaway: our boy Spongebob had it right all along - anchor arms for life! 💪😎
Keep up the great content man 🥂
spongebob has stick legs though
Typical leg day skipper@@backcure3621
Was your injury in 2014-2015 a hip labral tear?
There is no point for this video existing man, and you know it! Just making fun of dudes who care more about looks than strenght.
What are your thoughts on training to failure and reps in reserve?
There is still a huge social factor to aesthetics and it’s that other people will respect you more for having a good physique regardless of your physical capability
Most natural bodybuilders are still very healthy in daily life, especially with a bit of cardio, they’ve warded off sarcopenia, they’re far stronger than the average person, and more. Now me I want to be extra capable which is why I watch your videos but I’ll do a nasty drop set of behind the head skull crushers just to build the long head so I can look bigger.
Still, I want to be at “peak physical performance” and I know there’s more to it than that
did you jump the fence at 2:18? damn
But cartoon characters are not real.
It’s that unrealistic expectations and a setup of self-sabotage to failure?
Based on this video I would love to see your response to some of the charming nonsense that happens in the Baki series 😂
That's one thing I don't like it shouldn't all be about looks. I have the muscle I do because I got strong for reps in a variety of exercises. I once had a gym buddy ask if I would rather look like I could bench 500, or be able to bench 500. I said I would rather be able to lift it.
That's an extreme case. I haven't done either, at one time I had a 285 pound bench and was lean.
I was told I look like thragg from invincible earlier this week. Pretty cool compliment
Gotta get strong and swole like Baki 💪🏼😤
Well i guess im an exception cuz i have an anime pfp but i do train compounds and i want to be strong/explosive for mma/kickboxing.
Why? I dont know, I dont care 🗿
I didn’t agree with you when you first posted this but I kind of do now ngl
Its all good either way. Bodybuilding still can use "heavy enough" of lifting
6:50 'Look good but can't do shit'?
Sounds like Yamcha to me.
Or maybe all the other DBZ characters that got nerfed & nobody gave a shit after. Like future Trunks & Gohan
This just feels weird. Some of the people you are making fun of in the community seem to be people that have respect you for what you do drspite having different goals. People like BOM, NH, alex leonidas, and even gvs. Like why
Triggered anime fan
YOO Man what’s your best front squat I want to beat you we’re the same weight LETS GO
NANI????? Lol excellent clickbaity title and also totally accurate.
so you're telling me that to literally be baki (a fighter), I'll have to learn how to fight 😲
Why do you correlate bodybuilding with wheel chairs and lack of strength? That seems like an outdated Blaha sentiment. Bodybuilders tend to be very strong and if you utilize hypertrophy training properly, it will not hinder your mobility. I myself do sprints and plyometrics but I find the “bodybuilding” training I do in the weight room drastically reduces the risk of injuring myself training for speed. You have a very constrained outlook on bodybuilding that is influenced by the extremes that you see on social media. In reality most people who train for hypertrophy are not on anabolics and do not blow up to 220 lb mass monsters. This is very ill-conceived and not well thought out. Also how do you know that a hypertrophy phase where you specialize in further growing muscles that are important to your favorite lifts wouldn’t benefit you?
This. Someone who trains to build muscle will inevitably gain general strength and muscular endurance. Even if they aren't as strong as a powerlifter training to peak three specific lifts once a year, it doesn't mean they're weak.
"Outdated Blaha sentiment" sums this up. Rippetoe as well. Two fat old DYEL farts.
I grew up playing and watching sports, watching pro wrestling, and watching World's Strongest Man. I don't understand the weeb culture at all, though plenty of people my age are big into anime and such. I'm kind of on the cusp as an elder millennial.
I think it's more common in those who discovered fitness later and grew up as dorky kids, didn't get into the sports culture when young. I wasn't a great athlete and was def a nerd growing up, but never idolized fictional characters (unless you count Stone Cold Steve Austin, in which case lemme grab a can of whoop ass).
FWIW I'm 38, and the only people I knew growing up who liked anime were the computer and gamer focused kids who hadn't played sports since elementary school, if at all. I did have one friend in college who was an all-state athlete but also loved DBZ, but he was literally the only one I knew at the time.
The thing with the drawings is Goku is only supposed to be like 145 at 5'9. He wouldn't look the way he does at that weight in actual life. I think baki is like 5'7 and he weighs 155. Same deal. I think it's suspension of disbelief.
Hi Alec how much should i front squat to be considered decent ? Is double bodyweight a good goal?
generally would be considered solid
@@EnkiriElite Jesus u always respond to all the comments! ty so much from an og fan. Really close tò hit double bw squat thx to your teachings
I find the opposite to be true around here so i think overall these cartoons just influence a great number of male lifters
I just knew i was too skinny to not have abs so i hsd to lift...and then i learned i could train to get better at basketball.
Love to see a response from NH or Basement bodybuilding etc
Well Alec, I have to say i don't agree or disagree with you. My problem is more in the fact that you seem to worry so much about why people train.
Trust me, I get it! I just anawered a poll asking if peeps would rather be strong or look strong. Overwhelmingly the majority pick to look strong. And I was a bit shocked.
But at the end of the day what is most important is that they are training. Modality be damned!
You don't seem to like bodybuilding. That's fine. Others do. There is nothing noble about being more performance interested. It's just a hobby.
Yes, and I am allowed to explain why I dislike one thing and like the other. Which is all I did here and all I ever do.
some food for thought:
- before entirely pissing on bodybuilding, i would bring up those with high-level processes to the point that they could be considered an ability (eg. being able to keep as much tension of a squat onto the quads versus hinging or actually being able to figure out how to use the goddamn rear delts in isolation) (which is why there is the notion of the thinking man’s bodybuilder ie dorian or maybe mike israetel etc versus the branch warren’s)
- the “people are drawn to function” argument: are cbum, arnold, ronnie etc not at least comparable fame to those such as eddie hall, hafthor, insert top crossfitter? additionally for the uneducated do you think that “its all steroids bro” is just that much more visually obvious for bb versus strength sports even if the usage is the same leading to skewed and negative first impressions?
- again re: the “inherent appeal” of performance leading to the popularity of crossfit etc: would you think that john from accounting, 180lbs of skinnyfat, cares more about his performance on wods or just wants to look better naked for his wife to love him again? and is there not the possibility that he wouldn’t admit the latter because of the stigma of “its vanity” and justify using performance as a roundabout way to get there?
Even tho I prefer appearance over performance, I don't understand exclusive aesthetics training either. If ur physique goal is lofty enough, the pursuit is worthwhile.
But once u have a modicum of muscularity, I believe exploring performance is too. Why would you want a good body but have zero athletic ability? Sounds _"vain",_ as the normies say. (Didn't wanna do it, but I had to.)
Doesn't help that powerbuilding gets shit on. Even tho Alex Leonidas & Bald Omni-Man exist.
Calisthenics bodybuilders are the biggest offenders. You take an endeavor with multiple feats of strength -- handstand pushups, front lever(FL), one-arm FL, one-arm pushups & pullups, muscleups, planche -- but u only train for aesthetics? Calisthenics is fairly easy to recover from too so hybrid training is even more feasible.
I feel people either aren't privy to the niche pursuit of performance/athleticism, or, they simply still struggle with their physique. Only until they're satisfied will they be complacent enough to try something else. But this social media driven society built on comparisons has insecure ppl focusing on the superficial instead.
So, it's not so easy spreading the message of function, even tho it's better long-term...
We think we are the main character but havnt put in the work to reach unattainable cartoon power levels. Its a worse version of trying to look like roided up body builder and defiantly made to sell targeted clicks and likes. Its a different market to target. That being said, the videos can be fun to watch.
I wish Enkiri made videos more frequently 😔
Jacked animals next (where're those mystatin deficient horses at)? 🍿🍿🍿
Where my Belgian blues at
weird thing is that the anime i saw showed pretty soft guys, maybe tall, but very skinny
I can't wait for leanbeefpatty to start flying around in ODM gear like Mikasa Ackerman
Are the qualities developed by any physical sport so detached and different? Obviously, it depends highly on which ones you compare, but let me put it this way. What exactly is muscle? A greater mass to contract, thus a greater ability to produce force, but also a greater amount of energy stored so as to be able to produce force for *longer*. Muscle is directly related to enduring strength. Whilst you can very much focus on extremely ligamental and tendon pounding movements of power, fundamentally, there is a lot of muscular action, and what would directly make you better at producing that power over and over again, is more muscularity. Weakpoints in the body is non-functional, because you never know when you might shift your weight in a certain way, grip something a certain way, need to use your pecs in a certain way. Much like how people who fear dynamically training the spine (such as in Jefferson Curls, with WEIGHT), it is not surprise that the moment you shift outside that tiny range you are used to deadlifting, you snap your shit up. You never trained your erectors dynamically, or properly. Injury is not caused by lifting, it is caused by being irresponsible, in regards to load and fatigue. Being highly endurant in your strength, in pretty much every angle or movement pattern of the body, is extremely functional. But a lot of bodybuilders do not do serious cardio. They treat it as a joke. THere are literally bodybuilders who intentionally neglect parts of themselves, not because it is impractical to target said muscle, or borderline impossible, but because they do not lke the look. As much as I like GVS, for example, he intentionally does not want bigger calves. But, on the plus side, he does run! I think if you are ignorant of any part of health and performance, that is a bad thing, and I am sure that you can minmaxx certain qualities, but you can do so only at the detriment of other qualities. Being neurologically conditioned to use the very most of what you have on you is not necessarily bad, it takes effort, and it takes skill, but fundamentally, having more strength by means of muscle, is simply more functional. I know most bodybuilders do not train for this reason, and I know that most of them do not care, and you are very right in saying that is an issue. But, look at Bald Omni-Man, or even Natural Hypertrophy (his lack of cardiovascular fitness is NOT okay), they are not weak by any stretch. They do some serious deadlifts and things. Sure, it is not record topping, competitive, ball-busting stuff, but in regards to what a human is ultimately capable of, they are very strong. Same with GVS. He even calls himself weak, comparatively, yet he is very strong, if you think about it. I do not think I have seen a single case, except with steroids, or with very specific sports, such as people who only do the big three, where someone was relatively small but very strong. It is almost always pretty equivalent. Muscle = strength. Hafthor is not small in the muscular sense, he is 6'8'', and the volume of his muscles would dwarf most peoples easily. His muscles are actually giant. Big bones means lots of space. I very much agree with hybridisation, and I think if you truly are concerned with function, you have to be a hybrid. You have to run, you have to take complicated, compound movement patterns, you have to do it with intensity and volume, you have to shore up weakpoints with some isolations or more minor compounds, etc., variety to get angles and different stimuluses, you should play sports, learn to fence, learn to wrestle, etc., but I definitely don't think most bodybuilders are weak. A lot of, developed, obviously, bodybuilders can put up serious numbers, if they really want to, and in terms of every day life, I mean, I have gone from barely being able to do Push-Ups, to being able to lift packages that explicitly advise you not to lift it on your own, fairly easily, and repetitively. Think about the military. Is neurological conditioning the most important thing there? Or actually having enduring muscles? Having the ability to march and run, recover, and go again? What is best for that mentality? Doing a few, fairly hard olympic lifts? Or doing five sets, to failure, of higher rep, strict form bench presses? etc. And, as someone else noted, form is functional, too. It is kind of illogical to point at reality and determine that some parts of it are more important than others, when all the importance is fairly arbitrary. Obviously, we can still objectively measure things, reason and so on. But why would someone want to look 'unhealthy', and to look 'not impressive' and so on? It is just true that physical form arouses (at least if they are any good) people. It is the same as being a good chef. Or a good wrestler. Or a good anything. It is beautiful to take on the form of what your functions are, and we all enjoy art, and culture, and expression. Muscularity and physique is the expression of my desire to be helpful, to be healthy, to be capable. There are so many benefits to all of this sort of stuff that people do not imagine, either. You know why big glutes and legs are sexy on a man? Because it is very likely he will be *supraphysiological* in bed. I just think a lot of people have the cart before the horse. They only seek to be aesthetic, to be beautiful, rather than seeking all of it. Much like a hybrid athlete, I think we should be hybridised in our reasons for being passionate, and for striving. Our goals should be multi-factorial. You probably could maximise muscular hypertrophy by doing eccentric, stretched partials, high frequency, pure isolations and no compounds. You could probably get away with it, too. It would just be extremely time consuming, you would learn no movement patterns or balance, and would have very little anaerobic conditioning, etc. You can just focus entirely on olympic lifts, and maximising performance, but you will not be nearly as well rounded, and often, without steroids, somewhat dyel. You could never run, have fun with heart failure, and not being able to do something integral to the human experience. So on and so forth. The jack of all trades is better than a master of one. If I lose 10% of my ability in pretty much every regard, but gain 90% proficiency in pretty much everything, I am more than satisfied. That is just my two cents, anyway.
'That is just my two cents, anyway'. I thought I would mention how a lot of people think that someone like Hafthor is not impressive, or seems less sizeable for his strength. But the dude is 6'8''. The volume he can put on, and still look small, is fucking immense. He looks beefy as fuck despite that, and he has to be, to do what he does. I do not think these qualities are separated, unless you go to extremes, they are complimentary, and to a degree, necessary for each other.
this reminds me of a clip I saw of a Rick Boogz and Jujimufu collab where Boogz coined the term "popcorn muscle"
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What if the fastest and most time efficient way to transform you aesthetic is building building work capacity and strength endurance while leaving other performance attributes in the dust? 😅
I have a theory that this entire video was written to wake up the bear 🐻 (NH).
NH is more of a ferret
7:05 “Because inherently humanity has a distaste for things which focus solely on form over function”
All of Art History: ‘They ask you how you are and you just have to say you’re fine-‘😆
(good vid tho, I’m just saying)
As a 500 lbs bench, I’d happily drop to 400 to look like a 600 haha
I dont agree with the statement that those mainstream anime carry the message of "function over form" its just happend to be that the main characters persue is physical strengh, to become a king of the pirates or save the world, but in reality, the goal is whatever on a simbolical level, but it should be your true passion. You can strive towards whatever you want to become wether its gonna be a decently strong and huge physique, or absurdly strong and decently big one, but wether or not one of those goals will be worth persuing, depends entierly on your individual goals, for different people the right answer will be different. So to me those anime sionens are about persuing your dream and giving it all the efforts and craftiness to achieve it, rather then persuing some arbitrary goal that was enflicted upon you by someone else, that might not fully aline with your true desires, so to me, "anime idiology" would sound something like "life goal first"
I think the problems with the “aesthetics first” mentality is that it is often a mindset for enhanced lifters, or naturals that are not far into their fitness journey. Of course someone who focuses only on form and does not regard function is missing much of the point. They haven’t the experience to put together that the biggest ARE the strongest. Assessing someone like GVS, who is incredibly large, and saying that his one rep maxes are all shit is just silly. Of course his one rep maxes are low. He doesn’t ever do them! But he can move a larger than normal amount of weight for many reps compared to most athletes. If he ever started training to reach the highest weight in one rep that he could achieve, I’m certain he’d be very fucking strong. In order to acquire a truly impressive physique, one must be capable of great strength. Looking at any of the other largest naturals like BOM, Alex, or even the very young Basement Bodybuilding, we can see that strength and size are quite corollary. These three are strong as shit, and use hypertrophic training as well. I think athletes must diversify for the best results, in all honesty. Just not to the point of trying to be a marathon runner and Olympic weight lifter. Great discussion!
I agree, but the reason GVS is so big is that he is focused on training for hypertrophy and his Hulk goal physique. If he began to work towards testing his strength, that would be time taken away from his personal goal. He walks, runs and lifts. You can’t really fault his training style can you? And he’s a bodybuilder not a performance athlete. Bodybuilding provides a fantastic base for performance.
@@richardbramwell8687 that’s exactly what I’m condoning! He trains many facets of his fitness and is an incredible athlete because of it. I was not slandering GVS, I was saying that athletes with what Alec called “spongebob muscles” are totally capable of great strength if they train for it
@@Thadiloth I got that from your comment, which I thought was really well put. That’s why I said I agree with you. I just wanted to add the point that if you take the time to focus specifically on strength, which Alec does, that is time taken away from hypertrophy.
Harry Aikines look like anime character and run 100m 10.19s again after injury .Look strong and fast.
So you're so just gunna ignore the fact there are just as many powerlifter and mma fighters who draw inspiration from anime ?
I don’t completely disagree with you BUT by your same logic no one should weight train and everyone should learn how to fight. Who cares if your 225 and bench 405 if I dude who weighs 155 could break your arm or knock you out? At the end of the day movement and exercise is better than no movement. How ever you come to that conclusion is good.
anime one of my inspirations to train cant lie I don't care about aesthetics i want the strength of one punch man
Speaking specifically on DBZ I think you've missed the mark on this one. I think you need to separate the physique and performance aspect. As both an anime obsessed aesthetics bro and someone who has a black belt I see a clear delineation between the two. To start the physiques in DBZ are often what were awe inspiring to children like me. If you're going to stay natty then to get close to the physique I'd argue you need to almost exclusively focus on hypertrophy. Depending on the character and the saga I'd say this is hard for most people to do even with this being main pursuit. Regardless of the practicality of this it gives people a good goal to aspire to.
In regards to the characters functional utility it is their fighting prowess, not their strength which matters. This is taking out all of the super human things that we will never be able to do. I would argue that hypertrophy done properly with things like calisthenics mixed in does this. Granted I know not all aesthetic bros do this sort of thing. However if someone is doing things properly it will incorporate it. Anyways this is just my 2 cents I figured I'd watch you video before getting too far into NH's.
I recognize a man of culture when he uses SpongeBob references.