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Not gonna lie, but I don't think we are not going to see those CGI scenes in mainline Sonic games for a while and I know we are not going to see it again in the next mainline Sonic game. I did asked Morio on Twitter about it but didn't get an answer from him. Oh well.
I would love it if they returned! I mean I'm happy they still do CGI trailers because to he honest, CGI Sonic is my favourite version to watch. I love the Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, Sonic and the Black Knight and Sonic Colours CGI cutscenes, as well as Sonic Unleashed! They are truly incredible. It's a shame that the deadline is the main focus now, or that's what it seems to be, that's what the world has become, consume more content more quickly, more money, and quality is compromised as a result.
We do get a lot of 2D stuff now. Superstars' intro, Dream Team's intro, and The Frontiers Knuckles Prologue. All of these kind of fill the role of what the 3D CGI stuff did. I kind of perfer how sonic looks in 2D compared to 3D but I wouldn't mind bringing back those epic movie quality intro sequences that older games had.
Wait, what? How do you prefer the appearance of 2D Sonic to 3D Sonic? Sonic is way better when he didn't look drawn! All characters are way nicer and cuter in 3D (CGI), there's more depth in their expressions and emotions! It really sounds like a great-animated movie, they sound more real and alive! And it helps to the Shōnen side, it's like a 3D Shōnen! When something in 2D is well transcribed in 3D, it's automatically better in 3D!
The thing about all cutscenes being rendered in game is that modders can change, say, sonic's model into shadow, and have it take effect throughout the entire game. While the cgi is cool, that on the fly versatility is why I think Sega should continue with their current strategy and simply improve on their in-engined cutscene capabilities.
Ngl they shoulve have at least one big cinematic cutscene in sxsg but seeing how good the in game cutscenes look and visuals i think their abandonign such
MARZA is an in-house studio within Sega. They're the ones that made the CGI trailers for Frontiers and the CGI trailer for the Final Horizon update. They're always available to Sega, but I think it may boil down to either not enough budget, poor business decisions like usual, or just laziness.
The CGI cutscenes started with Adventure and ended with Lost World, Lost World for all its faults was the last game to still have something of a budget behind it, ever since then we’ve been getting games with less of a budget. Lost World was special since it was a part of the SEGA X Nintendo deal at the time so it needed a budget. With Sonic Team still being split in half ever since ‘06, the games have been made by two separate teams, so during Lost World’s development, Forces was in production, both games heavily featured the Wisps because they were both games with similar ideas behind them but Forces got the short end of the stick. There is a reason Forces reused a ton of assets from Lost World, and even had it’s new Hedgehog Engine 2 be heavily based off of the Lost World Hedgehog Engine. It was a way to make the money spent on Lost World go further since the game had a small install base compared to Forces the next multiplat game. You can blame the lack of budget and focus on marketing for the loss of CGI cutscenes in modern games. Seeing as SEGA is giving Sonic Team a higher budget and is hiring more people to work on the games, who knows, maybe the next big mainline release will have CGI cutscenes, here’s to hoping. They always set the scene and tone really well, and are perfect rewards for the player for getting as far as they have. Unleashed was the king when it came to CGI cutscenes, Marza Animation Planet really knocked of out of the park with that one.
I think that last games don't have CGI cutscenes because of the new game mechanics in those games: Sonic Forces has an Avatar customization system, which makes hard to make every cutscene fully rendered with every accessory in the game (it's just not worth it, it would take a lot of resources) and Frontiers has a Day-Night cycle that updates evsry second you're in-game, they of course could just ignore the day-night cycle in cutscenes, but Frontiers HAS A LOT of them.
What stumbles me is that WHY does Sega still create cgi cutscenes (such as the ones for frontiers and final horizon) but not use them in game. Really wish cgi cutscenes return, amazing video
sa2 was the first mainline game to have cgi cutscenes outside of the intro, (the saturn version of 3d blast was the very first game to have cgi cutscenes if that counts) colours and lost world were the last games to have cgi cutscenes that wasnt an intro it is odd how forces and especially frontiers didnt have any form of cg animations in the game as pretty much every console sonic game since sa1 had them (sonic 4 saga are the exceptions), even tsr had a cgi opening
Yes making CGI is quite expensive indeed, but I really miss seeing it in Sonic games honestly. Inside the game I mean. I really don't want it to be exclusive in trailers online only. :-(
Heroes was my first exposure to Sonic-y CGI goodness, causing young me to long for a full length film of the same fidelity and cheerfully anticipate the visual stories to come in future games. Adventure's (1998) opening is the earliest example of 'pre-rendered' (prettier-than-game) animation that I know of in the IP. SA2 had instances like the Eclipse Cannon firing and the space shuttle launch. I've noticed the lack of prerendered films since Generations and miss the flair they add to the presentation.
I just wanna see SOMETHING going on. Even if it is just flailing hands again. Fronteirs may have your precious writing but everything just looks like it doesn't wanna be there.
I dont know why they keep the cgi in trailers and not put them in the games since forces. Forces and Frontiers have great cgi trailers that they could’ve put in the game, even if they arent much
Oh, I would be so happy to see CGI cutscenes, it always shows when things get serious and epic! And even I noticed Frontiers brought much expressiveness in in-game characters (yes, we see them chaning expressions many times in any shot), it would never be as deep as CGI cutscenes! Those CGI were like saying "You're going to see something epic", and it was! Oh and don't be afraid to say "perfect" for those cutscenes, the word it totally for them, I don't see how could we do something better than that! Too bad Marza and Blur waste their talent on useless and shitty live-action movies... I hope they'll be back.
“We don’t get cgi cutscenes anymore Now all we get are these pre rendered animated cutscenes” that’s what a cgi cutscene is not trying to be rude I just found it funny (the cutscenes we actually get now are real time animated cutscenes (pre rendered means they rendered the cutscene beforehand and it’s a video, real time means it’s being rendered by your device in real time))
@finngomezgamer Yeah that was a mistake on my part, I just assumed the cutscenes we get now are "pre-rendered" because they look like they haven't been fully finished. But thank you for pointing that out, and thank you for the subscription! 😊
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This is something I've been wondering for a while, what do you think though, will we ever see cinematic cutscenes like we did in Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic 06 and Sonic Unleashed? Let me know below! Also, thanks for 600 subscribers!
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Not to mention the first two Sonic riders games (even Sonic Colors (some cutscenes featured CGI) & free riders (only opening.))
@@AbdelkaderSokkah Yeah, looking back on the video, I can't believe I forgot the Riders games. 😂
I think what they've done is to only have cgi for trailers only. For example frontiers, the only cgi we see are in trailers of the game.
@@SpeedstersUniteddoes prime count since it's canon and is maraza quality animation
Not gonna lie, but I don't think we are not going to see those CGI scenes in mainline Sonic games for a while and I know we are not going to see it again in the next mainline Sonic game. I did asked Morio on Twitter about it but didn't get an answer from him. Oh well.
YES! Someone that misses the CGI cutscenes as much as I do!
Most people do.
me too😊
either barely be on the Internet or I've been looking in the wrong places cuz a majority of people if not everyone is sad they're gone
I really really really miss the CGI cutscenes. they added so much to the games
I would love it if they returned! I mean I'm happy they still do CGI trailers because to he honest, CGI Sonic is my favourite version to watch. I love the Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, Sonic and the Black Knight and Sonic Colours CGI cutscenes, as well as Sonic Unleashed! They are truly incredible. It's a shame that the deadline is the main focus now, or that's what it seems to be, that's what the world has become, consume more content more quickly, more money, and quality is compromised as a result.
I think sonic heroes has the best cgi cutscenes (in my opinion). I’m also a biased but they are still incredible and have the best lines!
We do get a lot of 2D stuff now. Superstars' intro, Dream Team's intro, and The Frontiers Knuckles Prologue. All of these kind of fill the role of what the 3D CGI stuff did. I kind of perfer how sonic looks in 2D compared to 3D but I wouldn't mind bringing back those epic movie quality intro sequences that older games had.
Wait, what? How do you prefer the appearance of 2D Sonic to 3D Sonic? Sonic is way better when he didn't look drawn! All characters are way nicer and cuter in 3D (CGI), there's more depth in their expressions and emotions! It really sounds like a great-animated movie, they sound more real and alive! And it helps to the Shōnen side, it's like a 3D Shōnen! When something in 2D is well transcribed in 3D, it's automatically better in 3D!
The thing about all cutscenes being rendered in game is that modders can change, say, sonic's model into shadow, and have it take effect throughout the entire game. While the cgi is cool, that on the fly versatility is why I think Sega should continue with their current strategy and simply improve on their in-engined cutscene capabilities.
Ngl they shoulve have at least one big cinematic cutscene in sxsg but seeing how good the in game cutscenes look and visuals i think their abandonign such
Can’t wait for more great content!!!
MARZA is an in-house studio within Sega. They're the ones that made the CGI trailers for Frontiers and the CGI trailer for the Final Horizon update. They're always available to Sega, but I think it may boil down to either not enough budget, poor business decisions like usual, or just laziness.
Why laziness?
The CGI cutscenes started with Adventure and ended with Lost World, Lost World for all its faults was the last game to still have something of a budget behind it, ever since then we’ve been getting games with less of a budget. Lost World was special since it was a part of the SEGA X Nintendo deal at the time so it needed a budget. With Sonic Team still being split in half ever since ‘06, the games have been made by two separate teams, so during Lost World’s development, Forces was in production, both games heavily featured the Wisps because they were both games with similar ideas behind them but Forces got the short end of the stick.
There is a reason Forces reused a ton of assets from Lost World, and even had it’s new Hedgehog Engine 2 be heavily based off of the Lost World Hedgehog Engine. It was a way to make the money spent on Lost World go further since the game had a small install base compared to Forces the next multiplat game.
You can blame the lack of budget and focus on marketing for the loss of CGI cutscenes in modern games. Seeing as SEGA is giving Sonic Team a higher budget and is hiring more people to work on the games, who knows, maybe the next big mainline release will have CGI cutscenes, here’s to hoping.
They always set the scene and tone really well, and are perfect rewards for the player for getting as far as they have. Unleashed was the king when it came to CGI cutscenes, Marza Animation Planet really knocked of out of the park with that one.
I think that last games don't have CGI cutscenes because of the new game mechanics in those games: Sonic Forces has an Avatar customization system, which makes hard to make every cutscene fully rendered with every accessory in the game (it's just not worth it, it would take a lot of resources) and Frontiers has a Day-Night cycle that updates evsry second you're in-game, they of course could just ignore the day-night cycle in cutscenes, but Frontiers HAS A LOT of them.
having cgi cutscence made the experience more enaging after you completed the mission
What stumbles me is that WHY does Sega still create cgi cutscenes (such as the ones for frontiers and final horizon) but not use them in game. Really wish cgi cutscenes return, amazing video
sa2 was the first mainline game to have cgi cutscenes outside of the intro, (the saturn version of 3d blast was the very first game to have cgi cutscenes if that counts)
colours and lost world were the last games to have cgi cutscenes that wasnt an intro
it is odd how forces and especially frontiers didnt have any form of cg animations in the game as pretty much every console sonic game since sa1 had them (sonic 4 saga are the exceptions), even tsr had a cgi opening
Didn’t the cg cutscenes stop with Sonic Lost World?
why are these videos so interesting 😭
I don't know, but I'm glad you find them interesting!
@@SpeedstersUnited I love them
Yes making CGI is quite expensive indeed, but I really miss seeing it in Sonic games honestly. Inside the game I mean. I really don't want it to be exclusive in trailers online only. :-(
Saving on expenses is the only think I can think.
If they do come back, it better be packaged with a good game 😤
Heroes was my first exposure to Sonic-y CGI goodness, causing young me to long for a full length film of the same fidelity and cheerfully anticipate the visual stories to come in future games. Adventure's (1998) opening is the earliest example of 'pre-rendered' (prettier-than-game) animation that I know of in the IP. SA2 had instances like the Eclipse Cannon firing and the space shuttle launch. I've noticed the lack of prerendered films since Generations and miss the flair they add to the presentation.
Me too, it was just that vibe of even if the game wasn't too good, you could still find satisfaction and beauty in the CGI cutscenes.
they realized they didn't like putting a lot of effort into their games. including frontiers.
Bullshit.
I'm pretty sure Sonic Colours has some cgi cutscenes like the one that plays before act 2 of terminal velocity. It's pretty quick though
I miss stuff like the generations opening
Sonic should have a tv show or spin off movie animation like this.
They should keep making cgi cutscenes in every 3d sonic game and never retired than rather putting some in trailers but not in some games.
I just wanna see SOMETHING going on. Even if it is just flailing hands again.
Fronteirs may have your precious writing but everything just looks like it doesn't wanna be there.
I dont know why they keep the cgi in trailers and not put them in the games since forces. Forces and Frontiers have great cgi trailers that they could’ve put in the game, even if they arent much
Oh, I would be so happy to see CGI cutscenes, it always shows when things get serious and epic! And even I noticed Frontiers brought much expressiveness in in-game characters (yes, we see them chaning expressions many times in any shot), it would never be as deep as CGI cutscenes! Those CGI were like saying "You're going to see something epic", and it was!
Oh and don't be afraid to say "perfect" for those cutscenes, the word it totally for them, I don't see how could we do something better than that!
Too bad Marza and Blur waste their talent on useless and shitty live-action movies...
I hope they'll be back.
“We don’t get cgi cutscenes anymore Now all we get are these pre rendered animated cutscenes” that’s what a cgi cutscene is not trying to be rude I just found it funny (the cutscenes we actually get now are real time animated cutscenes (pre rendered means they rendered the cutscene beforehand and it’s a video, real time means it’s being rendered by your device in real time))
Also yes I am aware you most likely already know this and you most likely misspoke (either way you have a new subscriber)
@finngomezgamer Yeah that was a mistake on my part, I just assumed the cutscenes we get now are "pre-rendered" because they look like they haven't been fully finished. But thank you for pointing that out, and thank you for the subscription! 😊
0:17 Not true, Black Knight, Colors, and Lost World had CGI cutscenes as well.
But yeah, after that, zilch, nada. :/
i wish if sonic movie was made in cgi reather than being in real life.....
Doesnt every game from colors to lost worlds have a cgi intro?
No? Games as far as Heroes had CGI intros.