Much Abrew: Mono-Red Land Destruction (Modern)
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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Match 1: 3:50
Match 2: 11:49
Match 3: 16:52
Match 4: 22:58
Match 5: 33:30
Standard/pioneer: yeah 3 mana is about what most of my cards cost.
Modern: I would rather DIE than pay 3 mana for a spell.
Lol, so true.
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Never realized how gross Trinosphere is against Suspend cards, sheesh. That poor Burn player...
Not as bad as t3f gets suspend cards... and cascade cards... man t3f just ruins everything...
Trinisphere plus Karn minus is my fav way to beat burn
@@LucksackGames which karn
@@Casey-cy6ph Big Karn, or small Karn plus and Liquimetal. If burn cant cast spells they cant kill you. Usually it plays something out like karn wish trini, play trini get karn bolted in response. Their turn maybe a lava spike, a creature if lucky. Big karn minus on a land. Thats if they even had 3 lands. :) brutalized a scapeshift player with two search for tomorrows suspended, and two lands by wishing for trini ❤️
Yeah, that worked out really well :)
I'm confused as to why we're not playing Pillage? Seems strictly better than Stone Rain if we're mono red
If only someone said something in the prior deck tech video...
Yeah, pretty sure Pillage is just better than Stone Rain.
@@MTGEDH at least 10 people did prior to myself saying it, so it was definitely said, lol
@@twoblueuntapped886 *whoosh*
@@MTGGoldfish have you considered asking submitters if you can change their suboptimal garbage into something more reasonable? That sideboard is super awful.
I’d love to see an updated version of this on stream. The obvious complaint of Pillage stands out, but fetches/Cataracts would be another fun add
Fetches would help a ton with boom bust, since you target them and sac it in response
The problem with fetches is that they do ping for life, which can become an issue with Eidolon.
@@Atmapalazzo isnt that just another stonerain that pings you for 1? Indestructible lands seem to work much better than fetches
@@chancestickley9 not quite. You still get the land from the fetch. So it requires 3 lands out, but only requires 2 mana
Blood Moon seems pretty good in this deck considering you can ritual it out early then blow up any basics they get
Yeah, Blood Moon is an interesting option. I normally play it in decks like this, but one of the things out found interesting about this build is that it didn't have Blood Moon.
@@MTGGoldfish I agree, and I feel like boom//bust was a dead draw every time, especially since there aren't any fetchlands in the list. could be blood moon.
edit: in the first two matches, mountain would've been better too. You never were in a position to cast them. It was about as bad as it could be in the rest of the games too.
@@jmage5508 yeah, i think the indestructible lands (Nightsteel citadel and the other colorles one) would be a good add. Blood Moon maybe 2 main 2 side? i dont like eidolon in the deck, seems not to add anything. Maybe Goblin Artifact Tutor Dude? works well with citadel and finds trinisphere and Bridge. maybe some other good lowcost artifact, bubble ore something like that.
This list really needs some work, pillage is modern legal...
As a Legacy Pox players, I agree with the sentiment that denying your opponents the ability to play is truly the finest method.
This is the most Seth deck we've seen in a long time.
I would feel sorry for the Bogles player if he wasn't playing Bogles.
So we're not playing indestructible lands with Boom/Bust... why, exactly? At least one or two copies seems like all upside.
What is a indestructible land?
@@goldinvestments1314 Darksteel citadel or cascading cataracts. Yeah I really wish Seth would fix bad lists like this one if they become the much abrew deck
To cast boom you need red mana. So you would have to run mana rocks. Or SSG it's very good in theory. But it might more often mess you over. Plus the curve is not that high. I like the idea thou. Good idea
@@___ooobodybagooo___ you only need 1 red for boom. Running 2-3 non red lands wouldn't hurt.
@@___ooobodybagooo___ for instance, Merfolk runs 4 mutavault even though they have double U cards. So running 4 citadel wouldn't be out of the question
Wotc should make more playable land destruction cards in standard. Everyone would hate it and it would be awesome.
This is my favorite comment lol
I mean it prevents travesty’s like field of the dead a bit
Ah yes. The agent of chaos
this is like giving cancer cancer to get rid of the cancer, sign me up
I mean, with Kaiju running around Ikoria it would be a perfect time to bring back 3 mana land destruction. Like that seems like a Kaiju thing to do.
I also think that you should have some number of Darksteel Citadel to work with the Boom//Bust could be pretty synergistic.
I don't know if i like the video being spoiled in the beginning. The reason why I watch the whole video in the first place is for that exact moment and I feel it kind of takes away from the adventure of watching the video. Guess i'll just skip it for now.
I always skip it. No one on this channel needs to be convinced to watch the episode, we always watch it all the way through. The preview takes away from the experience. Although I always skip it, so the preview might be from a different match that's not in the video.
Same here.
I’ve been saying this since they started doing it. And I’ve commented on almost every video since, asking for them to stop. I don’t understand why they started doing it. I used to watch the preview and the deck tech, but now I skip them both.
33:29 "Trinisphere. So good." sounds like a commercial
I love how much you enjoy playing land distruction
In our LGS one player focuses on Mono Red prison. His deck contains almost the same shell of Chandra TOD, Triniphere, Rituals, Simian and Bridge. The big difference is he has Bloodmoon, Karn Great Creator, Glorybringer and has scrying sheet and skred. Whoever gets matched up with him regrets playing magic and dies.
"Slips McGips" lol!
6:03 why did you ritual? Did I miss something or was that just an accident?
to have fewer cards in hand for ensnaring bridge
Once Trinisphere is out Ritual doesn't do anything (costs three, adds three mana), so just getting it out of our hand for Ensnaring Bridge.
@@MTGGoldfish Ah I see, that makes sense
Turn one Trinisphere with a one-land hand is... certainly a maneuver.
" and that's mono red land destruction for ..... modern" took you a second to remember which of the 300 formats it was in haha
I like a lot of what the deck is doing. I think a Sorcerous Spyglass effect (even MB) would be a good solution to the planeswalker problems you were having that could optionally act as soft land hate instead of boom/bust. Someone already mentioned pillage being an upgrade over Stone Rain.
Pillage and Blood Moon I think would push this deck to a higher tier.
One suggestion for this deck, just a tiny one, but you could put in a couple of Dunes of the Dead. Then when you have Boom//Bust in hand, you at least get a zombie 2/2 out of the deal and your opponent gets nothing.
Darksteel Citadel you donkey! Don't MAKE suggestions when you're bad, TAKE them or at least see if someone had an idea similar to yours. That's what comments are for and given the quality of yours, it stays in 0-like hell until the internet is shut down
Chalice and Karn tGC May be good swaps for boom//bust and eidolon. Especially with the SSG
That game 1 against Bogles was a thing of actual beauty.
Thoughts on no Chalice?
Why not pillage or fulminator mage? They seem to be much better than stone rain
Good call on Ful. Mag. I thought about Pillage not the ladder.
I've seen people use pillage/stone rain instead of fulminator because fulminator loses to veil of summer. But otherwise this deck should really be running pillage and fetchlands/indestructible lands.
Pillage is (although I'd probably play it over Boom // Bust rather than Stone Rain). Fulminator is decent, although only hitting non-basics can be problematic in a deck like this).
@@MTGGoldfish Yeah I wrote the comment before I saw the wrap up. Sorry
I ran a similar Modern deck way back during Return to Ravnica block. Mine was red/white for ajani, flagstones, helix, and a better sideboard (with a single tithe mainboard). Boom / Bust was much better in my deck as I had fetches / flagstones. Even adding 4 fetches to this mono-red deck would make it more playable.
Other big difference was that I included Blood Moon and didn't have Trinisphere. Looking back Trinisphere should have been there, but I also think you're crazy to run land destruction without Blood Moon for all the free wins. I also think Eidolon looks pretty underwhelming in this deck, not really seeing you burn them out quickly.
Creature removal is awesome even without Path (Oust/Condemn much better in this deck). Having Helix/Bolt/Condemn/Oust is so much more than the set of options you have here.
Either way, Wrenn and Six scares me enough by existing I would be scared to run the deck anymore at a GP, etc.
Y’all need to actually watch the wrap-up.
Im not sticking around for the wrap up if the deck is poorly constructed. These videos are longer then full length films.
was a very fun video. i totally would play it with magus of the moon main deck instead of as suggested in the side board.
i think boom bust was a bit underrated but it sounds great with citadel or Flagstones of Trokair (+ sacred foundry). i once had a similar deck in mind when modern horizons came out (wren & six) but it got quickly too expensive.
Yeah, Boom // Bust can be really good, but you do need to build around it a bit (which this deck didn't).
boom/bust is better when you have fetchlands. basically turns into stone rain if you have 1 in play when you cast boom. and pillage over eidolons.
The IQ of that first burn player... Humanity is doomed
I love this... who knew trinisphere is just instant death to a ton of decks in the format lol
Seth: *playing mono-red land destruction deck*
Seth: *plays trinisphere*
Opponents: Well now I'm not gonna do it.
Missed the meaning of the meme almost 100% good job
I say replace boom/bust with either pillage or Cryoclasm. Sunder From Within might also work too since it nets you 2 RR
Mono red trinisphere: As Richard Garfield intended!
3:53 ah, mountain tribal, I've played that before
note to self: slam the bridge. getting cards out of hands is necessary for it to work so exiling the grunts is 100 the call.
Seth after every match loss: "yeah that was our worst matchup" lmao.
This is secretly just Trinosphere the deck.
ready for mono-red land destruction in pioneer
Given that this is burn in a very contained boardstate due to the stax pieces I think this deck should be called The Furnace, or possibly better - Kiln Control. Thoughts?
Mono red vintage land destruction would be so awesome.
First match 3:49
Uh why did you cast Desperate Ritual to cast a Stone Rain at 6:03 ? Did you think it would allow casting a Chandra but then glossed over the punt?
i was wondering this EXACT thing.
It was probably for the bridge since ritual doesn't do anything in this situation anyway
my thoughts was that it was to get empty handed for the bridge
@@CrazyMegaOmega then Seth needs to verbalize this instead of just casting it as though he needed the mana.
It's a totally dead card with trinisphere on board so casting it or not is meaningless. with bridge in the deck it's also probably just better to cast than not.
I would like to see the updated version playing, it was fun hahahaha
Maybe add skirk prospector to it as well? If nothing else, to add more consistency to the second turn aside from the rituals and spirit guides.
Wouldn't it just be better to run Karn over Chandra? You can move one Trinisphere, Ensaring Bridge, and Coating in the SB plus the lifegain dragon for casting red.
You know what? Adapting lands to support Boom/Bust here might be amazing and would justify cutting some rituals for some more lategame power since they won't help cast Boom anyway. Unfortunately, one or two of those rituals getting cut might have to be another Mountain so that the deck has enough of them. The Eidolons are also iffy but still good sideboard tech; hard agree on that.
Now for Mana Vortex, Drownyard Temple, Trinisphere, stay my friend.
Please do more decks with trinisphere 😂 so good!
yay it's modern!!!!!
Didn't know whirzas opener- breaking my hearth Seth
*Meryl Streep shouting gif*
PLAY PILLAAAAGE
Judging by the dumb comments, people don’t watch the wrap up at the end.
Pillage? Pillage. Pillage! Pillage?!
Tbh i comment thru out the vids bc i worry that ill forget about it later in the vid
@@Nrdyco same, though i also dont usually watch the wrap up
@@Atmapalazzo i do tend to watch the wrap up bc Seth is pretty insightful so i always think "lets see what he has to say about it"
@MTGGoldfish How would you update this deck for 2022? This is the one I was thinking of wanting to play. The lack of SSG is tough, but maybe go RW with Cleansing Wildfire and Flagstones and Leyline of Sanctity?
Boom//Bust seems like a weird one in a deck not running lands to mitigate the down side (Fetch lands, Darksteel Citadel, Cascading Cataracts).
Also,this deck looks like it needs Pillage. Initial thought is Pillage over Stone Rain, but with Boom//Bust being so weird, maybe Pillage is its replacement.
Why not play Pillage in the deck? It seems like just a better Stone Rain in the deck since it also adds a main deck artifact destruction spell without removing a land destruction spell. Also why not Blood Moon in the sideboard? I did love the deck though land destruction is one of my all time favorite things in mtg.
Blood Moon is not positioned well in the meta RN, with Astrolabe running wild it does next to nothing...
@@Jonathan-qk5ed I would actually run a couple mainboard, even with Astrolabe. Sure it's not ideal when you play THOSE matchups, but it's so devastating against so many other decks that don't run a lot of basics, i.e. Humans, Tron, Death's Shadow, Amulet Titan, Eldrazi Tron. It's just an easy sideboard out when you play against Snowblade, Uroza, and U/B Whirza. It's not as bad positioned as you think.
@@Kayametra It's not even that good against Amulet tbh, they get any sort of ramp on the field beforehand (which they will) and they can simply ramp into a Titan naturally while you waste cards in your hand to do what? Slow there ramp down?
Same goes for Eldrazi Tron, okay you turn off their fringe combo finish and slow them down by a turn or two, but they still deploy threat after threat...
You are probably benefited quite well in the Humans match up with Moon, but event then if they mulligan hard for Vial and/or get a Hierarch out early along with a threat on T2 they can easily over come Moon...
Seth, why are you not running pillage as your sideboard artifact destruction, its also three mana, and it can hit lands as well.
No fetch lands for boom//bust? And stone rain over pillage???
I'd want to look into some number of Ramunap Ruins for additional late game damage.
Would Dragon's Claw be better than those Lava Darts for the SB?
Very likely. The sideboard is weird. I've never seen a deck play Smash as its artifact hate before, ever.
Is pillage legal in modern? Would be better than stone rains isn't it?
This deck is my first dive into red how’s young pyromancer over boom//bust?
Can we get an updated version of this in a few weeks using the changes you outlined in the wrap up?
Why are you not playing Fetch for Doom? Target your fetch and opp land, hold priority and Just fetch a basic montain. You keep the land and the opp doesn't
Smash actually makes sense to me. Ideally, you're operating under a Trinisphere, so your artifact destruction costs 3 regardless. And if it's gonna cost three, you may as well get a card out of the deal, which is something this deck can use. You ran out of cards a lot in the video and the deck has no way to catch up against discard or whatever. Having a card replacement on a removal spell helps a little (not a lot or anything, but you're mono-red, take what ya can get I suppose). If there's a cheaper cantrip artifact destruction spell, that makes sense as a replacement, but as it is, I understand why Smash is there. Don't know if it's optimal but I understand it.
Why are we not playing cascading cataracts?
Ist pillage just better then stonerain in this deck?
Why is there no Cascading Cataracts?
In game 5 you could have killed wren and six with the bolt in response of the ability. You wouldn't stop them to recover the land but it would have happened only once
No he couldn't. W6 starts at 3, the opponent maintains priority to activate the +1. W6 goes to 4 as part of the cost to activate its ability, meaning by the time Seth can cast Bolt, W6 is already out of range.
I feel like this deck needs a bit more polishing to tune it up.
Only MTG goldfish vid I've ever seen where the deck was painful to watch. Perhaps give the deck a pro work over and revisit in the future? LD is an awesome type that needs love.
No bloodmoon on sideboard?
With some White this lista would be way better flagstone of trokair and supression field ,wraths of god in the side , maybe ajani vengeant ghostly prision and tectonic Edge x2 wouldnt be bad too
now when do we get trinosphere tribal?
13:18 Why would you tick up for mana?????
I don't like Eidolon of the Great Revel in this deck. Just seems so out of place. Should probably be another finisher.
Game 1 against Bogles, why not play Stone Rain instead of Chandra to leave them with no lands?
Why Stone Rain and not Pillage?
why not using Darksteel Citadel to play alongside Boom // Bust?
Boom/bust is fun with fetchlands :) zero downside
Yeah, wasn't a great Boom // Bust deck for sure.
Looks like Wren and Six is good both with and against Boom//Bust
Isn't Pillage just better than Stone Rain here?
Boom bust needs fetchlands to be good
The previews seem extraneous.
Where is darksteel citadel combo with boom burst?
Fun is a zero sum game and Seth will have all of it.
Why no blood moon on the 75?
I think you should have been more aggressive with the Boom/Busts
Pilhage its must in this deck. I dont see a single reason why it didn't start with pilhage insted of the stone rain.
Dismember should be like... Magmatic Sinkhole? W6 felt really, really bad
Yeah, deck might need Pithing Needle in the sideboard specifically for Wrenn and Six, seems like it just beats us by itself.
Who does all your drawings for the thumbnails?
Adriano Kitani.
I am not a fan of the preview showing the best moment of the videos...I want to be surprised!
Eidolon is a nonbo with Ensnaring Bridge...
Fulminator mage?
Why no pillage? Hits artifacts too
But what about Fulminator Mage?
I think Fulminator Mage is less appealing than the other land destruction spells since it only hits non-basics. Pillage on the other hand seems like a solid addition.
hey lightning bolt isn't janking anyone out, 3 points of damage for one red mana is legit!
pillage is not better?
why no pillage?