This is news to me, AND I have a history of heart attacks and kidney stones! I’ve been taking a calcium supplement for many years. I will definitely be talking to my cardiologist about this. Thank you. 💓
I have Osteoporosis as well as Osteoarthritis, and a family history of heart disease, my body doesn't process Vitamin D very well at all, so my main concentration is on taking vitamin D and to avoid heart attacks I don't take calcium supplements and rely on a good diet as my body won't process the supplements anyway. So far I've outlived my father and 3 of his brothers by 13 years.
Keep it up dude. A good diet (as well as exercise and good sleep is the way to go). But a good diet is so difficult - but should actually be easy. This diet and that diet: yikes. As a sample of one I have survived by avoiding sugar and processed food. Best wishes from New Zealand.
@@zogzog1063Zelondronic acid use. Reclast best treatment 6month 1s 3year then also dite important green veg limit protein and hip flexible exercise and if you face back bone hip rotation exercise daily sun light 2hrs partition 6 meals small ok avoid soda coffee don't put pain killer gud byeee
Vitamin D is actually more of a hormone, not a vitamin. It's synthesized by your skin with 40% skin exposure to the sun for 10-20min 3x a week during peak hours. Obviously excess adipose steals D as well.
As a professional that helps people with their lifestyle goals via supplements, I appreciate the analytical, yet common sense approach offered in this video. I look forward to a follow-up at some point about Vitamin K (1 and the 2s).
While trying (and succeeding) to get my good cholesterol up (HDL), I ate a lot of almonds, which unfortunately caused a calcium oxalate kidney stone. Nuts are good for you, but don't overdo it.
Thank you for the informative video. You hear so much in the media about supplements it is hard to know what is good and what is bad. I enjoy the videos and always learn something. 🤔
I was taking calcium for years because of doctors telling me I needed to since I had osteoporosis. However, once I discovered the adverse issues plus the fact that my blood calcium levels are always verging on hypercalcemia (hyperparathyroid? who knows as doctors don't seem to understand the consistent higher (for age) levels or care, I stopped taking calcium. My osteoporosis has not gotten worse over the years since stopping, so, no plan to return to it. I do eat a healthy plant-based diet with some of the fish you mentioned, so maybe that has helped, along with running for 45 years. Thanks for what you do!!
I, too, am plant based, and I take vit d3. I have osteopenia, so my doctor has me taking K2 MK7. Check it out. You may want to talk to your doctor about it.
As always, thank you for the informative video. My Endocrinologist told me not to take Calcium. I think he knows best. This video helped me understand why.
Prunes! Not for calcium, but eating 5 to 6 prunes per day can preserve bone mass & density, especially in post-menopausal women. Prunes are rich in vitamin K and also reduce inflammatory markers associated with bone loss and osteoporosis.
Thank you! I had not heard of this. I Googled what you wrote and ended up on a Harvard health newsletter about nutrition for bone health that recommends prunes for the same reasons you wrote. That was also interesting as I had thought of osteoporosis as mostly age plus diet, and had realized it was also influenced by inflammation.
@@fullc0de Be careful with prunes though. In addition to containing fiber, prunes also contain sorbitol. Sorbitol is a sugar alcohol that can cause bloating, gas, & diarrhea. With some people (like me) it doesn’t take much sorbitol to cause problems.
After a menopause my friends suggested to take calcium ,my pharmacist agreed . My doctor told me to stop taking it seeing the results from my bon density test - in my case calcium could be harmful ! . Since then I never take any supplements without talking to my Dr.
I have been on thyroid meds for 35yrs and have been advised to take calcium supplement with vitamin D. However, I am now postmenopausal and don't like what I am hearing about the supplement. Thank you, I will be changing to more natural sources of calcium.
About 20 years ago, my mother-in-law was diagnosed with osteoporosis and told to take about 1,500 mg of calcium a day. She had some treatments with Fosamax and started an exercise program. She never broke any bones although she had a few bad falls. However, when she had a chest x-ray it was clear that her arteries had a lot of calcium build up. She had angina and dementia so maybe that was related to the calcium. She died of kidney failure. For myself, I do weight bearing exercises to try to keep my bones strong as well as eating a varied diet. I'm 69, so far so good.
Great content! Potential video topic: Is it safe to meal prep for the entire week? More specifically, what's the time limit that meat is safe to warm up from the fridge. This may be obvious to some but not to others.
Was taking calcium per endo doc advice. Became hypercalcemic. Urologist said No Calcium and within months my bloodwork returned to normal values. I have osteoporosis so trying to get enough calcium through diet.
I discontinued calcium/magnesium complex & fish oil recently. The more I read & hear about supplements, I’m no longer convinced the benefits outweigh the risk & expense. I am still taking a multi (for now) to full in the nutritional gaps.
I’ve done the same. My daily multivitamin had 12mg of B6 and blood test showed I had B6 toxicity-6 times the normal level. I now have peripheral neuropathy which the doc says is now recognised as a result of B6 toxicity. Australia now requires a PN warning on products that have 10 or more mg of B6.
Thank you so much for this video. I have osteoporosis and was told to take calcium and vitamin D3. My calcium score is Zero but will it go up if I continue taking calcium ? Could you possibly do a video on Osteoporosis medications ? I do not want to take them because of side effects.
Look at the videos from Optimal Bone Health, Dr. Doug Lucas. He has an incredible amount of information on osteoporosis and things you can do to not take the drugs, but he also evaluates the drugs. I think he changed his UA-cam videos to the Dr. Doug Show.
My heart dr. told me not to take calcium ,,my ENT told me to not take it ,polyps in my nose,,, Blocked Saliva glands, so I just get all I need from my food, thanks dr,s 👍
You two are the ONLY reason I would ever consider moving (from Miami, FL) to Canada…specifically your city/town!!! It’s SO refreshing, educational & entertaining to listen to both of you!!! ❤ ❤your channel! God bless you both & your families!🙋🏼♀️🙏🏼🙏🏼
I take calcium along with K2. Ive read that K2 and D3 act as a catalyst in getting calcium to your bones and not collecting in your arteries. Any feedback on this?
I used to be prescribed Calcium Channel Blockers for High Blood Pressure. Recently on a blood test I noticed my Calcium was high. I haven't been taking Calcium supplements anymore because I've changed my diet to try to lower my glucose. There just doesn't seem to be a balance once I got to be 80 years old. I bought an iodine supplement and intend to use one drop on butter, once I finish up the Cabbage, and other cruciferous vegetables I have loaded in my fridge. I also started eating shrimp because it is high in iodine. I wish there was an app I could use to test my urine and my blood or something like that in a constant blood glucose or insulin monitoring or ketone levels test. I see my doctor every 6 months but my chemistry changes daily with the foods I eat. Getting instant results would be so damn helpful for me and those who care about their health.
Getting instant or near instant results on what is resulting in problematic body reactions - is the holy grail. It's not real at this point but you know we have used nose swabs of saliva swabs. I'm not like Trump who believes in drinking bleach or ammonia to disinfect the covid 19 virus. I still laugh at that brain fog. @@TalkingWithDocs
“Conclusion: Calcium citrate is better absorbed than calcium carbonate by approximately 22% to 27%, either on an empty stomach or co-administered with meals.”
My almond milk has calcium carbonate. The nutrition facts say 450 mg of calcium per serving. I don’t drink it every day, but now I am wondering, should I avoid that as well?
Back in December I fell and broke my right collarbone and my Dr.told me on my last visit I should start taking calcium but he forgot to mention what dosage I should take.I am a 77 year old male.
I’ve been watching your videos for years & really enjoy your approach on topics. I have researched so many calcium supplements throughout the years when I found out on a DEXA I had osteoporosis. I am against taking medication so I exercise and have a very healthy diet. However, I do take a plant-based calcium NOT chalk or rock that can harm my arteries. I weigh 100 pounds and never broken a bone. Do you feel this is a safe alternative? Also, calcium is needed for so many oxalates in food.!! How to balance it all? Thanks again for all your humor. :-)
Oh dear. Well I take it that this is meant as a joke. A joke right?? I suppose the dairy in ice cream is a 'natural' source, but the downside is that ice cream is a junk food and you will lose more on the swings than you gain on the roundabouts.
My orthopedic surgeon had me take Vitamin D so i would process calcium properly and heal my fractured avulsion fifth metatarsal fracture . It’s been a tremendous success 💪 love your videos boyz!!!😎😎 🇨🇦
Love your videos.So true eat a whole food plantbased diet and you’ll be sorted yes kale bokchoy watercress almonds soy beans and soy milk.Yes get some time in the sun ☀️ to get the vitamin d as well skip the calcium pills and get from the food and you’ll feel on top of the word too.Yes avoid the sugar and too much salt try to keep the body alkaline I’m 70 and very small frame and this works for me and do weights for bone health as well .
Great informative video. I'm on PPIs for hiatal hernia which is the only thing that works for me, but these caused early osteoporosis age 50. In the UK the guidance is for PPI patients to take 600mg calcium supplement plus 25mcg vit D daily. My Dr did explain to me that 600mg is the max dose that the body can process without deposition in the wrong places such as blood vessels due to PTH hormone. Anything higher than this is potentially dangerous as you explain.
Very interesting thanks! I am a kale hater but I remember hearing that weight bearing exercise helps bone density and id love to hear what kind and how much would help
Look up plyometric exercises, which include lots of jumping and lunges. It's the impact that helps to improve bone density (not sure how, but you can easily research it).
Sorry about the kale. Worth a second look. As for weight bearing exercise walking and jogging. Weighted vests are a good idea. Also resistance training. Almost anything really.
I've never taken calcium. Recent labs show my calcium level was high. I don't eat kale but I grew up drinking milk. The only broken bone was when I was 5. I still drink milk, not every day. I must be getting calcium from my diet but it hasn't been on purpose. The doctor who told me that my level was high has never told me to do anything different. I love raw spinach and never eat it cooked. I also don't eat spinach every day. I had no intention of taking calcium, especially after the doctor said my calcium level was high. It almost makes you wonder why calcium isn't available by prescription only.🤔 Sometimes we shouldn't be in charge of our own supplements. I know people on a ton of different vitamins, whether they need them or not. Thank goodness for you two! Thanks for sharing another great video!👍
My BMD T score up -2.5 from -1.6. Dr. Gave me to take Alendronate tab 70mg and also to take calcium with D3. I don't want to take calcium. Is it ok to take only Alendronate? I will eat calcium rich food.
Your opinion on NAC? I wear sunglasses 😎 24/7. To watch TV and even at night. I was put on steroids for 2 weeks. For about 60/90 days it helped. I'm back to where i started. Helppppp
I take a multivitamin and fish oil only now, was taking calcium for a long time, I've noticed that when I stopped my back pain was much better, and when I started again the joint pains came back, also be careful with too much vitamin d as this can increase your calcium and cause even more issues
I suffered a fractured vertebrae at work a couple of years ago. My doctor sent me for a Dexa scan which came back with low bone density (osteopenia). He didn’t seem to concerned but 6 months ago I saw another doc and they put me on calcium tablets. Now I’m conflicted, I’m leaning towards stopping but don’t know whether I should. I am 59 and other than taking bp medication I’m pretty fit and I have just taken up running.
I am a 72 year old, 220 pound male (that's about 100 kilograms to you , my Canadian friends), and in the U.S., 1200 mgs. is the recommended daily dose for my age. I get 220 mgs in my Centrum Senior multivitamin. Then, I take an additional Citracal for 200mgs. more, for a total supplement of 420 mgs. of Calcium. Does this seem to be overdoing it? Since I am well below 1200 in my supplements, and I think 1200 mgs. from food alone might be difficult? (On Days that I eat a lot of Pizza, yum-yum, I skip the extra Citracal)
Thanks, I was hoping you would discuss this. I'd like to add though that some foods have added calcium--should this be considered a supplement? Also what amount of calcium is considered too much at one time? 500mg? 1000?
That's a very good question. Whether or not, it was dangerous, would likely depend on the amount of calcium that is added, which is likely less than 500 mg it'll be hard to comment on the exact amount of a supplement in this form but is likely better tolerated than a pill
Thank you docs.. The problem I have is my GI tract. Calcium Carbonate is in antacids. I can't take PPI's or H inhibitors.. So I'm left with high doses of Calcium Carbonate, which I don't want to take, but with Barretts, Gastritis, Duodenitis, i have chest pain (note: I've been to the ER multiple times and my heart is fine every time)-probably due to aspirin therapy. I also have CV issues. So, it is darned if I do darned if I dont.
It depend on your diet, any medical conditions, that compromise absorption, and the path of your osteopenia and osteoporosis. This is a discussion for you and your doctor have.
Docs, you need to talk about D3 with vit K2 MK7 for osteoporosis. Puts calcium in the bones, rather than the blood vessels. I am in the US, and doctors are starting to do this because they don't like the side effects of osteoporosis drugs.
I meant to tell you yesterday in my comment I take the K2 MK-7, 100 mcg. with 4000 IU of Vitamin D3. I’m glad people are becoming more aware of K2 MK-7.
What do u do if u have Ibs and dairy is not good for you? I can't eat kale every day. What else is there for me to use. I currently have osteopenia and take a chewable calcium
Ok, you've discussed the "average person". How about people who are post joint replacement surgery? It is pretty traumatic to the bones in that area. Wouldn't it be prudent to take (balanced) calcium/D/K/magnesium supplements for at least a period of time post-surgery (say, 6-12 weeks)?
@@TalkingWithDocs Hmm. Ok, that is interesting! I'm 60 and I would have thought it would be indicated. Thanks! I'm in the middle of an infected (c-acne) reverse joint replacement (~3.5 years old, started to show up at about the 2.5 year mark), temp replacement (antibiotic infused, with IV antibiotics, completed last week), with about a 10% bone loss in the infected area. I'm getting a fluid draw on Thursday and should know the results if the culture about 2 weeks after that. Then, hopefully, I'll get a new permanent reverse shoulder (I only have the teres minor rotator cuff muscle left at this point). It was really frustrating because I'd just regained full mobility about 6 months earlier (equivalent to my other shoulder). Sigh! Anyway, thanks for the info!
Impossible to achieve 800mg calcium from food. Morning 1 cup milk, 2 eggs, bread. Afternoon 1 bowl cauliflower (if can finished) + salmon + orange juice. Night potato + chicken + vege. Is this 800mg? And sometime skip breakfast, sometime no appetite eating.
Hi Norah. Sorry to hear that you're going through treatment. Your oncologist is very specific reason for ordering all of your supplementation, and for those reasons it should be continued. It is not unreasonable to have a discussion with them though.
Very interesting and informative, I personally do not take calcium. Perhaps in the future could you talk about Magnesium? I do take (2) 100mg Chelated Magnesium tablets a day to bring my Magnesium to 1.8 mg/dL. PS: I have a pacemaker and two stents, (72 years old and overweight) my heart doctor is fine with this.
You might of mentioned the role of K2 in keeping calcium out of your arteries. I assume you did a video on K2 but it does correlate to processing of calcium in that it should help to keep the calcium in your bones where it belongs along with vitamin D3.
So it's in the works. But it doesn't totally prevent the spike in calcium seen with supplements. The research is not quite as convincing as the internet or the K2 salespeople would have you believe
@@TalkingWithDocs I don't ever rely on talking points or the advice from the myriad of Chiropractors hocking their wears on UA-cam. I mostly rely on peer reviewed clinical studies like those presented on Dr. Gil Carvalho's channel "Nutrition Made Simple" and Dr. Brad Stanfield's channel. Dr. Carvalho did a comprehensive video about K2 in regards to removing atherosclerotic plaque using K2 and ultimately I believe he basically said, that the plaque was actually preventing heart failure so that wasn't a reason to remove nor was K2 necessarily going to remove it to lower a CAC score. Dr. Stanfield did and interesting video about evidence based studies why you should take K2 supplements and why he takes it himself. Here is a link to that video, it may help when you make yours. ua-cam.com/video/uxaiw3tVOiM/v-deo.htmlsi=wEXMtpW7c2XzB0_P
I've been using shakes made with casein protein, skim milk, and a little bit of plain greek yogurt to thicken the shake in order to help meet my calcium goals via my diet (rather than supplements) without eating a lot of saturated fat. Casein has much more calcium than whey protein. But I've been wondering if the concentrated calcium in casein (1 scoop of casein protein protein powder typically has 40-50% of my daily needs, per the Cronometer app) acts like and has similar risks to the supplement forms of calcium (as opposed to the calcium in less processed dairy products like milk, cheese, and yogurt).
It's hard to say, but certainly plausible. The other issue with CASEIN is that has been linked to cancer and who knows, maybe that is related to the calcium content as well.
My husband was told to take calcium supplements after an ankle replacement 9 years ago, but he was never told to stop them. Should that have been for short term use only?
I am not a physician, but I would think that any where from several weeks to several months would cover the healing. I also would check with whomever did the procedure, or a similar doctor.
I take them if I don't then I have extreme abnormal gait probably cause of a history of eating disorder my best friend was on it too please pray for her as she needs to stay healthy for her patients even though she saids doctors have trouble eating when seeing sick people everyday
Worry about your heart first! Carnivore diet is a quack fad diet that causes atherosclerotic heart disease. Stop watching Ken berry and other quacks! What's your ldl and tryglyceride levels? My god. Yes I am a doctor
Great infos! I know so many ppl take supplements just because they think they need to and end up developed complications they could have been avoided .
I have osteo arthritis and was told years ago to take the supplements if not in my diet, by a previous doctor. Won't eat kale, not too keen on fish. Will eat some canned salmon and tuna. Now I take 375 mg of calcium every second day. I eat cheese, yogurt as well. Hope that's ok?
When I was younger I got I was going to the gym one day my knee started hurting and I had a open it my leg and knee I bought calcium and started taking I was happy it built the whole in no problem I'm 56 now I can walk a long way no pian I thank God Almighty 👑 👐🙌🔥🤲 🙏
Vitamin D certainly still plays a role however, some recent research does question it overall significant. Terms for bones is likely just a source of calcium.
Love Rhubarb, but the gallons of sugar you need to go with it is the kicker. 🙂 I did my own research 10 years ago...no calcium supplements for me. I did however start taking vit D back then, thank goodness. I also got my folks to start taking it (both 84 then) At the start of covid my dad beat double pneumonia (aged 90) and neither got covid. Maybe their immune systems were well boosted, I believe so anyway! My mom will be 94 next month and is in great health.
i have mild osteopenia and a doctor told me to take calcium. I somehow knew from the net that I shouldn't. I'm doing more resistance training and I'm taking more euthyrox, because the bone health depends on a good cholesterol. i eat a lot of raw and cooked vegetables.
This is news to me, AND I have a history of heart attacks and kidney stones! I’ve been taking a calcium supplement for many years. I will definitely be talking to my cardiologist about this. Thank you. 💓
Yes definitely worth a chat with the cardiologist!
What was the update
I have Osteoporosis as well as Osteoarthritis, and a family history of heart disease, my body doesn't process Vitamin D very well at all, so my main concentration is on taking vitamin D and to avoid heart attacks I don't take calcium supplements and rely on a good diet as my body won't process the supplements anyway. So far I've outlived my father and 3 of his brothers by 13 years.
Keep it up dude. A good diet (as well as exercise and good sleep is the way to go). But a good diet is so difficult - but should actually be easy. This diet and that diet: yikes. As a sample of one I have survived by avoiding sugar and processed food. Best wishes from New Zealand.
@@zogzog1063Zelondronic acid use. Reclast best treatment 6month 1s 3year then also dite important green veg limit protein and hip flexible exercise and if you face back bone hip rotation exercise daily sun light 2hrs partition 6 meals small ok avoid soda coffee don't put pain killer gud byeee
Vitamin D is actually more of a hormone, not a vitamin. It's synthesized by your skin with 40% skin exposure to the sun for 10-20min 3x a week during peak hours. Obviously excess adipose steals D as well.
D3 with k2
I’ve been taking a calcium supplement and now I’ll stop. Thanks for this video!
As a professional that helps people with their lifestyle goals via supplements, I appreciate the analytical, yet common sense approach offered in this video. I look forward to a follow-up at some point about Vitamin K (1 and the 2s).
Yes it's coming!
While trying (and succeeding) to get my good cholesterol up (HDL), I ate a lot of almonds, which unfortunately caused a calcium oxalate kidney stone. Nuts are good for you, but don't overdo it.
Everything in moderation John. Sorry about the stone. Ouch.
Thank you for the informative video. You hear so much in the media about supplements it is hard to know what is good and what is bad. I enjoy the videos and always learn something. 🤔
You guys rock. Please follow this one up with the new data on vit k and magnesium supplementation!❤
Yes. Seems conflicting information on the topic. For example, there appears to be no statistical survival benefit of Vit K.
Thanks for the suggestion. We will definitely take a look.
I was taking calcium for years because of doctors telling me I needed to since I had osteoporosis. However, once I discovered the adverse issues plus the fact that my blood calcium levels are always verging on hypercalcemia (hyperparathyroid? who knows as doctors don't seem to understand the consistent higher (for age) levels or care, I stopped taking calcium. My osteoporosis has not gotten worse over the years since stopping, so, no plan to return to it. I do eat a healthy plant-based diet with some of the fish you mentioned, so maybe that has helped, along with running for 45 years. Thanks for what you do!!
I, too, am plant based, and I take vit d3. I have osteopenia, so my doctor has me taking K2 MK7. Check it out. You may want to talk to your doctor about it.
@@chrisstepleton4761 I have been taking vit d3 and K2 for years. Definitely a believer.
@@mad8298Do you do dairy?
@@LunethAkumajo no
@@chrisstepleton4761 what daily dosage u take for d3 and k2m7?
As always, thank you for the informative video. My Endocrinologist told me not to take Calcium. I think he knows best. This video helped me understand why.
He does know best 😉
Same here. I took the supplement for years. Who knew?
Prunes! Not for calcium, but eating 5 to 6 prunes per day can preserve bone mass & density, especially in post-menopausal women. Prunes are rich in vitamin K and also reduce inflammatory markers associated with bone loss and osteoporosis.
Thank you! I had not heard of this. I Googled what you wrote and ended up on a Harvard health newsletter about nutrition for bone health that recommends prunes for the same reasons you wrote. That was also interesting as I had thought of osteoporosis as mostly age plus diet, and had realized it was also influenced by inflammation.
Thanks for sharing
@@fullc0de Be careful with prunes though. In addition to containing fiber, prunes also contain sorbitol. Sorbitol is a sugar alcohol that can cause bloating, gas, & diarrhea. With some people (like me) it doesn’t take much sorbitol to cause problems.
I love prunes, thanks for sharing that ❤.
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After a menopause my friends suggested to take calcium ,my pharmacist agreed . My doctor told me to stop taking it seeing the results from my bon density test - in my case calcium could be harmful ! . Since then I never take any supplements without talking to my Dr.
I have been on thyroid meds for 35yrs and have been advised to take calcium supplement with vitamin D.
However, I am now postmenopausal and don't like what I am hearing about the supplement. Thank you, I will be changing to more natural sources of calcium.
Yes my nutritionist suggested I stop taking it because of potential blockages.
About 20 years ago, my mother-in-law was diagnosed with osteoporosis and told to take about 1,500 mg of calcium a day. She had some treatments with Fosamax and started an exercise program. She never broke any bones although she had a few bad falls. However, when she had a chest x-ray it was clear that her arteries had a lot of calcium build up. She had angina and dementia so maybe that was related to the calcium. She died of kidney failure. For myself, I do weight bearing exercises to try to keep my bones strong as well as eating a varied diet. I'm 69, so far so good.
Glad to hear it
Pol@@TalkingWithDocs
Great content! Potential video topic: Is it safe to meal prep for the entire week? More specifically, what's the time limit that meat is safe to warm up from the fridge. This may be obvious to some but not to others.
Thanks for this kind advice. Very useful
Glad it was helpful!
Was taking calcium per endo doc advice. Became hypercalcemic. Urologist said No Calcium and within months my bloodwork returned to normal values. I have osteoporosis so trying to get enough calcium through diet.
Wow. That’s sure news to me. Thank you so much for this information.
Very, very helpful.. thank you so much for making this video!
You're very welcome!
I discontinued calcium/magnesium complex & fish oil recently. The more I read & hear about supplements, I’m no longer convinced the benefits outweigh the risk & expense. I am still taking a multi (for now) to full in the nutritional gaps.
That's a pretty sensible argument, Juli
I’ve done the same. My daily multivitamin had 12mg of B6 and blood test showed I had B6 toxicity-6 times the normal level. I now have peripheral neuropathy which the doc says is now recognised as a result of B6 toxicity. Australia now requires a PN warning on products that have 10 or more mg of B6.
Informative . And entertaining. As usual! Thanks Docs. Good talk👍🏻
Much appreciated
Thank you so much for this video. I have osteoporosis and was told to take calcium and vitamin D3. My calcium score is Zero but will it go up if I continue taking calcium ? Could you possibly do a video on Osteoporosis medications ? I do not want to take them because of side effects.
Look at the videos from Optimal Bone Health, Dr. Doug Lucas. He has an incredible amount of information on osteoporosis and things you can do to not take the drugs, but he also evaluates the drugs. I think he changed his UA-cam videos to the Dr. Doug Show.
My heart dr. told me not to take calcium ,,my ENT told me to not take it ,polyps in my nose,,,
Blocked Saliva glands, so I just get all I need from my food, thanks dr,s 👍
Now you know!
You two are the ONLY reason I would ever consider moving (from Miami, FL) to Canada…specifically your city/town!!! It’s SO refreshing, educational & entertaining to listen to both of you!!! ❤ ❤your channel! God bless you both & your families!🙋🏼♀️🙏🏼🙏🏼
I take calcium along with K2. Ive read that K2 and D3 act as a catalyst in getting calcium to your bones and not collecting in your arteries. Any feedback on this?
So there is some evidence to support this. We are working on a video about this topic. The spike is often still seen though initially
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you. I'll be looking forward to your findings.
I used to be prescribed Calcium Channel Blockers for High Blood Pressure. Recently on a blood test I noticed my Calcium was high. I haven't been taking Calcium supplements anymore because I've changed my diet to try to lower my glucose. There just doesn't seem to be a balance once I got to be 80 years old. I bought an iodine supplement and intend to use one drop on butter, once I finish up the Cabbage, and other cruciferous vegetables I have loaded in my fridge. I also started eating shrimp because it is high in iodine. I wish there was an app I could use to test my urine and my blood or something like that in a constant blood glucose or insulin monitoring or ketone levels test. I see my doctor every 6 months but my chemistry changes daily with the foods I eat. Getting instant results would be so damn helpful for me and those who care about their health.
There are test straps for ketones, if that helps. Drug stores and Amazon carry them.
Thank you@@JudySterling
Very interesting
Getting instant or near instant results on what is resulting in problematic body reactions - is the holy grail. It's not real at this point but you know we have used nose swabs of saliva swabs. I'm not like Trump who believes in drinking bleach or ammonia to disinfect the covid 19 virus. I still laugh at that brain fog. @@TalkingWithDocs
What is the difference between calcium carbonate and calcium citrate? Is the absorption level the same?.
“Conclusion: Calcium citrate is better absorbed than calcium carbonate by approximately 22% to 27%, either on an empty stomach or co-administered with meals.”
Thanks Docs, I stayed clear of calcium supplements and glad I did now.
How about calcium citrate?
My almond milk has calcium carbonate. The nutrition facts say 450 mg of calcium per serving. I don’t drink it every day, but now I am wondering, should I avoid that as well?
So in this form it is not absorbed as quickly as a supplement tab so likely ok
Back in December I fell and broke my right collarbone and my Dr.told me on my last visit I should start taking calcium but he forgot to mention what dosage I should take.I am a 77 year old male.
That would be determined by your daily estimated food intake and your risk of osteopenia or osteoporosis.
I’ve been watching your videos for years & really enjoy your approach on topics. I have researched so many calcium supplements throughout the years when I found out on a DEXA I had osteoporosis. I am against taking medication so I exercise and have a very healthy diet. However, I do take a plant-based calcium NOT chalk or rock that can harm my arteries. I weigh 100 pounds and never broken a bone. Do you feel this is a safe alternative? Also, calcium is needed for so many oxalates in food.!! How to balance it all? Thanks again for all your humor. :-)
I have cervical syndrome 15 years ago. This supplement is suitable for me ? Thanks
I think the best source of calcium is ice cream
And possibly the most delicious source❣️
It's practically medicine. 😉
Oh dear. Well I take it that this is meant as a joke. A joke right?? I suppose the dairy in ice cream is a 'natural' source, but the downside is that ice cream is a junk food and you will lose more on the swings than you gain on the roundabouts.
Ice cream is very good for diabetis and high cholestrol
And in a float, with vodka, has entertainment value.
My doctor told me to take it for osteopenia. D3 too.
Well that's a different story for sure
My orthopedic surgeon had me take Vitamin D so i would process calcium properly and heal my fractured avulsion fifth metatarsal fracture . It’s been a tremendous success 💪 love your videos boyz!!!😎😎 🇨🇦
Love your videos.So true eat a whole food plantbased diet and you’ll be sorted yes kale bokchoy watercress almonds soy beans and soy milk.Yes get some time in the sun ☀️ to get the vitamin d as well skip the calcium pills and get from the food and you’ll feel on top of the word too.Yes avoid the sugar and too much salt try to keep the body alkaline I’m 70 and very small frame and this works for me and do weights for bone health as well .
Great informative video. I'm on PPIs for hiatal hernia which is the only thing that works for me, but these caused early osteoporosis age 50. In the UK the guidance is for PPI patients to take 600mg calcium supplement plus 25mcg vit D daily. My Dr did explain to me that 600mg is the max dose that the body can process without deposition in the wrong places such as blood vessels due to PTH hormone. Anything higher than this is potentially dangerous as you explain.
You guys are fantastic; I watch all your video's !
You rock! Thanks!
What about algae-based calcium supplements?
Very interesting thanks! I am a kale hater but I remember hearing that weight bearing exercise helps bone density and id love to hear what kind and how much would help
Look up plyometric exercises, which include lots of jumping and lunges. It's the impact that helps to improve bone density (not sure how, but you can easily research it).
Sorry about the kale. Worth a second look. As for weight bearing exercise walking and jogging. Weighted vests are a good idea. Also resistance training. Almost anything really.
I've never taken calcium. Recent labs show my calcium level was high.
I don't eat kale but I grew up drinking milk. The only broken bone was when I was 5.
I still drink milk, not every day. I must be getting calcium from my diet but it hasn't been on purpose.
The doctor who told me that my level was high has never told me to do anything different.
I love raw spinach and never eat it cooked. I also don't eat spinach every day.
I had no intention of taking calcium, especially after the doctor said my calcium level was high. It almost makes you wonder why calcium isn't available by prescription only.🤔
Sometimes we shouldn't be in charge of our own supplements. I know people on a ton of different vitamins, whether they need them or not. Thank goodness for you two!
Thanks for sharing another great video!👍
Thanks for sharing Vicki!
My BMD T score up -2.5 from -1.6. Dr. Gave me to take Alendronate tab 70mg and also to take calcium with D3. I don't want to take calcium. Is it ok to take only Alendronate? I will eat calcium rich food.
Your opinion on NAC? I wear sunglasses 😎 24/7. To watch TV and even at night. I was put on steroids for 2 weeks. For about 60/90 days it helped. I'm back to where i started. Helppppp
Can you discuss K2's involvement when increasing the calcium supplement intake because of lactose intolerance?
We can certainly add it to the list. It's a good topic.
So helpful, thank you!
I take a multivitamin and fish oil only now, was taking calcium for a long time, I've noticed that when I stopped my back pain was much better, and when I started again the joint pains came back, also be careful with too much vitamin d as this can increase your calcium and cause even more issues
Thanks doctors, very informative. I had no idea of the side effects of a calcium supplement.
Thank you very much for this information! very interesting!!
Glad it was helpful!
I suffered a fractured vertebrae at work a couple of years ago. My doctor sent me for a Dexa scan which came back with low bone density (osteopenia). He didn’t seem to concerned but 6 months ago I saw another doc and they put me on calcium tablets. Now I’m conflicted, I’m leaning towards stopping but don’t know whether I should. I am 59 and other than taking bp medication I’m pretty fit and I have just taken up running.
Kale, yeah but it is also very high in oxalate, so you definitely want to avoid that and oxalate rich foods if you are prone to getting kidney stones.
Yes lots of foods are. Our bodies also make oxolates as waste products. They are hard to avoid
I am a 72 year old, 220 pound male (that's about 100 kilograms to you , my Canadian friends), and in the U.S., 1200 mgs. is the recommended daily dose for my age. I get 220 mgs in my Centrum Senior multivitamin. Then, I take an additional Citracal for 200mgs. more, for a total supplement of 420 mgs. of Calcium.
Does this seem to be overdoing it? Since I am well below 1200 in my supplements, and I think 1200 mgs. from food alone might be difficult? (On Days that I eat a lot of Pizza, yum-yum, I skip the extra Citracal)
So it really depends on what you eat. Maybe be a little more intentional with your fruits, vegetables and nuts and you can get there
Almond is High in Oxalates right?
Thanks, I was hoping you would discuss this. I'd like to add though that some foods have added calcium--should this be considered a supplement? Also what amount of calcium is considered too much at one time? 500mg? 1000?
That's a very good question. Whether or not, it was dangerous, would likely depend on the amount of calcium that is added, which is likely less than 500 mg it'll be hard to comment on the exact amount of a supplement in this form but is likely better tolerated than a pill
can you do a review for Hito calcium supplement?
Thank you thank you! I was going to go to GNC and buy women's 50 plus multi vitamin and wanted one especially with calcium. Do you think that is safe?
So it is likely safe but if you get it from your diet and do not have any diagnosed medical conditions requiring additional calcium likely unnecessary
Thank you docs.. The problem I have is my GI tract. Calcium Carbonate is in antacids. I can't take PPI's or H inhibitors.. So I'm left with high doses of Calcium Carbonate, which I don't want to take, but with Barretts, Gastritis, Duodenitis, i have chest pain (note: I've been to the ER multiple times and my heart is fine every time)-probably due to aspirin therapy. I also have CV issues. So, it is darned if I do darned if I dont.
Sorry to hear that. It's obviously different for you. Best of luck
What are the conditions under which a person with osteopenia or osteoporosis be prescribed to take a calcium supplement ?
It depend on your diet, any medical conditions, that compromise absorption, and the path of your osteopenia and osteoporosis. This is a discussion for you and your doctor have.
Docs, you need to talk about D3 with vit K2 MK7 for osteoporosis. Puts calcium in the bones, rather than the blood vessels. I am in the US, and doctors are starting to do this because they don't like the side effects of osteoporosis drugs.
This is my routine. Actonel, an osteoporotic drug was causing jaw pain so I discontinued. I switched to K2 and Vitamin D3 and very glad I did.
@@jsstar76 you are a very smart person.
We are working on a video about this. The evidence for K2 is not quite as cut and dry as some people would have you believe.
@@TalkingWithDocs Got to be K2 M-K7, not K3 MK4.
I meant to tell you yesterday in my comment I take the K2 MK-7, 100 mcg. with 4000 IU of Vitamin D3. I’m glad people are becoming more aware of K2 MK-7.
What do u do if u have Ibs and dairy is not good for you? I can't eat kale every day. What else is there for me to use. I currently have osteopenia and take a chewable calcium
Well if you have GI issues and osteopenia you often need the supplement. But you actually can eat kale every day 😀
Is it ok to take calcium as long as you’re taking Vit D ( and K2) along with it?
The issues with taking calcium supplement is independent of vitamin D or vitamin K
@@TalkingWithDocs oh i thought that the D made sure the calcium went to your bones and not your blood.😃
Thank you for clarifying this.
You're very welcome
Very informative Dr Zalzal & Dr Kale! 🥬😆
Wings and Kale, MDs..
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Glad it was helpful!
Kind of like Crockett and Tubbs. Maverick and Goose. Batman and Robin.🤣
@@TalkingWithDocs or Smothers Brothers! 😆
Thank you so much Drs for your important & informative information. Always love to see you two.s input. Thank you again ❤😊
Our pleasure!
Another informative video. Thank you.
Our pleasure!
I wish I liked Kale, but I don't. Give me a glass of milk please!
Ok, you've discussed the "average person".
How about people who are post joint replacement surgery? It is pretty traumatic to the bones in that area. Wouldn't it be prudent to take (balanced) calcium/D/K/magnesium supplements for at least a period of time post-surgery (say, 6-12 weeks)?
So we are both joint surgeons. The short answer is no. As long as you have a good vitamin D level and receive adequate calcium from your diet
@@TalkingWithDocs Hmm. Ok, that is interesting! I'm 60 and I would have thought it would be indicated. Thanks!
I'm in the middle of an infected (c-acne) reverse joint replacement (~3.5 years old, started to show up at about the 2.5 year mark), temp replacement (antibiotic infused, with IV antibiotics, completed last week), with about a 10% bone loss in the infected area. I'm getting a fluid draw on Thursday and should know the results if the culture about 2 weeks after that. Then, hopefully, I'll get a new permanent reverse shoulder (I only have the teres minor rotator cuff muscle left at this point).
It was really frustrating because I'd just regained full mobility about 6 months earlier (equivalent to my other shoulder). Sigh!
Anyway, thanks for the info!
Impossible to achieve 800mg calcium from food. Morning 1 cup milk, 2 eggs, bread. Afternoon 1 bowl cauliflower (if can finished) + salmon + orange juice. Night potato + chicken + vege. Is this 800mg? And sometime skip breakfast, sometime no appetite eating.
My oncologist recommends I take calcium, Magnesium and Vit D. Do you see a problem there?
Hi Norah. Sorry to hear that you're going through treatment. Your oncologist is very specific reason for ordering all of your supplementation, and for those reasons it should be continued. It is not unreasonable to have a discussion with them though.
Very interesting and informative, I personally do not take calcium. Perhaps in the future could you talk about Magnesium? I do take (2) 100mg Chelated Magnesium tablets a day to bring my Magnesium to 1.8 mg/dL. PS: I have a pacemaker and two stents, (72 years old and overweight) my heart doctor is fine with this.
They have a couple of videos talking about magnesium already.
I watched it, and will reduce my magnesium and quit my zinc and copper. Thanks so much.
You might of mentioned the role of K2 in keeping calcium out of your arteries. I assume you did a video on K2 but it does correlate to processing of calcium in that it should help to keep the calcium in your bones where it belongs along with vitamin D3.
So it's in the works. But it doesn't totally prevent the spike in calcium seen with supplements. The research is not quite as convincing as the internet or the K2 salespeople would have you believe
@@TalkingWithDocs I don't ever rely on talking points or the advice from the myriad of Chiropractors hocking their wears on UA-cam. I mostly rely on peer reviewed clinical studies like those presented on Dr. Gil Carvalho's channel "Nutrition Made Simple" and Dr. Brad Stanfield's channel. Dr. Carvalho did a comprehensive video about K2 in regards to removing atherosclerotic plaque using K2 and ultimately I believe he basically said, that the plaque was actually preventing heart failure so that wasn't a reason to remove nor was K2 necessarily going to remove it to lower a CAC score. Dr. Stanfield did and interesting video about evidence based studies why you should take K2 supplements and why he takes it himself. Here is a link to that video, it may help when you make yours. ua-cam.com/video/uxaiw3tVOiM/v-deo.htmlsi=wEXMtpW7c2XzB0_P
Hi Docs am on Adcal because of RA but had recent Heart attack should i be concerned about the Adcal content ?
I have been talking calcium for years. And have a lot of health problems. After taking them I get indigestion. Are the bill causing it.
I heard a video explaining that calcium carbonate is difficult to digest
I've been using shakes made with casein protein, skim milk, and a little bit of plain greek yogurt to thicken the shake in order to help meet my calcium goals via my diet (rather than supplements) without eating a lot of saturated fat. Casein has much more calcium than whey protein. But I've been wondering if the concentrated calcium in casein (1 scoop of casein protein protein powder typically has 40-50% of my daily needs, per the Cronometer app) acts like and has similar risks to the supplement forms of calcium (as opposed to the calcium in less processed dairy products like milk, cheese, and yogurt).
It's hard to say, but certainly plausible. The other issue with CASEIN is that has been linked to cancer and who knows, maybe that is related to the calcium content as well.
@@TalkingWithDocs Thanks for answering! I didn't know about the cancer risk. I'll take that into account.
Hey doc doesn't calcium bind with oxylates "form of kidney stones" and helps reduce this type of stone?
It can if you are susceptible
I take half a handful of prescription pills each day. Is the chalk in those giving me extra calcium?
Probably not
I took all kinds of vitamins and herbs for decades. It never made me sick.
Excellent episode
Thanks!
My husband was told to take calcium supplements after an ankle replacement 9 years ago, but he was never told to stop them. Should that have been for short term use only?
I am not a physician, but I would think that any where from several weeks to several months would cover the healing. I also would check with whomever did the procedure, or a similar doctor.
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Thanks for sharing. .
Thanks for watching!
What about taking calcium supplement along K2 and D3 supplement? Shouldn't K2 and D3 direct the calcium straight to the bones, thus making it safe?
I ate Calcium in Roland’s for heart burn. I had kidney stones 4 times.
Many did
Thanks Docs, Perhaps I'll stop taking mine.
Worth a chat with your doctor
I take them if I don't then I have extreme abnormal gait probably cause of a history of eating disorder my best friend was on it too please pray for her as she needs to stay healthy for her patients even though she saids doctors have trouble eating when seeing sick people everyday
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I just learned that I should be taking calcium supplements. I do not drink milk, and I've never bought kale in my life.
I eat a carnivore diet for several reasons, so since I’m not getting calcium from fruits or vegetables, is it ok for me to take a calcium supplement?
Worry about your heart first! Carnivore diet is a quack fad diet that causes atherosclerotic heart disease. Stop watching Ken berry and other quacks! What's your ldl and tryglyceride levels? My god. Yes I am a doctor
Great infos! I know so many ppl take supplements just because they think they need to and end up developed complications they could have been avoided .
I have osteo arthritis and was told years ago to take the supplements if not in my diet, by a previous doctor.
Won't eat kale, not too keen on fish. Will eat some canned salmon and tuna. Now I take 375 mg of calcium every second day. I eat cheese, yogurt as well.
Hope that's ok?
It's hard to say without a full assessment of your medical health and diet. Maybe have a chat with your doctor
Just took some before watching this 15%!!!! What if I don’t make it tonight
When I was younger I got I was going to the gym one day my knee started hurting and I had a open it my leg and knee I bought calcium and started taking I was happy it built the whole in no problem I'm 56 now I can walk a long way no pian I thank God Almighty 👑 👐🙌🔥🤲 🙏
NO, not kale :( .. I’ll do rhubarb, instead :)
OK, good enough for me.. I don’t need calcium.
So what about Vit. D and tums tablet for bone?
Vitamin D certainly still plays a role however, some recent research does question it overall significant. Terms for bones is likely just a source of calcium.
Really great information
How about for teenagers with growth spurts?
Thanks
Welcome!
What about vitamin K2
We have a video about K2 and D3. The evidence is not conclusive at this point despite the claims on many on social media
Love Rhubarb, but the gallons of sugar you need to go with it is the kicker. 🙂
I did my own research 10 years ago...no calcium supplements for me. I did however start taking vit D back then, thank goodness. I also got my folks to start taking it (both 84 then) At the start of covid my dad beat double pneumonia (aged 90) and neither got covid. Maybe their immune systems were well boosted, I believe so anyway! My mom will be 94 next month and is in great health.
Thanks for the info! ❤
Welcome
Rhubarb is extremely high on oxalate.
I had one dr tell me to take calcium bc of bone density tests and one dr tell me not to take bc of blood tests. So what do you do???
i have mild osteopenia and a doctor told me to take calcium. I somehow knew from the net that I shouldn't. I'm doing more resistance training and I'm taking more euthyrox, because the bone health depends on a good cholesterol. i eat a lot of raw and cooked vegetables.