Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro & Plus: 250mm/s high speed printing, stock Marlin VS Creality Sonic pad Klipper
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- 00:00 Intro
01:55 Setup
03:21 Eryone PLA calibration cube, benchy and big ben
06:05 Eryone TPU lizard
06:47 Eryone ABS screw box
08:09 Overtune Nylon wrench (dry with FIXDRY filament dryer @70C for 6hrs)
09:13 VOXELPLA PRO printing trashcan w/0.8mm and 1.2mm diameter nozzle
11:36 Eryone PETG printing trashcan w/0.8mm diameter nozzle
12:29 Klipper firmware installation and Sonic pad setup
16:10 Speed test with Klipper: 120mm/s 150mm/s 200mm/s benchy
17:40 Adding an extra fan to improve part cooling and retry 200mm/s and 250mm/s at 0.25 layer height
18:35 Pros and Cons
Welcome back to Aurora Tech Channel. Today, I am going to review the latest Neptune 3 Pro and Plus printers. These two machines are pretty much identical. The print volume of the Pro is 225x225x280, and the retail price is $230. The Plus has a larger print volume of 320x320x400 and is priced at $350. There is also a MAX version, which has a print volume of 420x420x500 and is priced at $470.
This pricing seems pretty aggressive, so let's take a look at the hardware of these printers. First, they use a direct drive extruder. In terms of the extruder design, it's pretty similar to the Ender-3 S1 series and uses a bond tech clone dual-gear extruder. They have a dual Z-axis with a timing belt and use an inductive auto bed leveling sensor. The print surface is a textured PEI spring steel sheet. They come with a 4.3" capacitive touch screen, as well as all of the mid-range printer upgrades, such as LED lights, belt tensioners, filament sensors, 32-bit boards with STM chips, silent stepper drivers on all axes, and clean cable management. With all this hardware for a super low price, the price value is amazing.
In addition to testing the normal printing speed, I will also experiment with increased print speeds, ranging from 120 to 250mm/s, and also increasing the acceleration to 3000mm/s². Furthermore, I will also compare the performance and print quality of the Klipper firmware with the stock Marlin firmware by connecting the machines to a Creality Sonic pad. I am very excited to explore these features and share my results in this video. I would like to thank Elegoo for sending me these machines to review and Creality for supplying the Sonic pad to me in this video, and with that, let's get started.
Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro ($230):
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Elegoo Neptune 3 Plus ($350):
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Creality Sonic Pad ($164, using $5 coupon code CLB5):
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My printer.cfg and Klipper firmware for Neptune 3 Pro and Plus,
:( Use it at your own risk :)
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Other filaments and accessories in this video:
Eryone filament (PLA, PETG, ABS, ASA, TPU as low as $10 per roll, min 10 rolls):
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$16.99 VOXELPLA Pro:
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DRYFIX filament dryer (up to 70C):
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Comgrow Smoke Purifier:
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Useful Klipper resources I used for reference in this video:
TheFeralEngineer Github page:
github.com/TheFeralEngineer/K...
3D Models:
3D Benchy:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:763622
Big Ben by miniworld 3d:
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Trash can:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:472...
Eiffel tower:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:912478
Screw box:
www.printables.com/model/3972...
Comgrow Smoke Purifier (I use it for printing ABS or other toxic materials):
bit.ly/3BWBkls
Super cheap used Creality Printers ($69):
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Maybe in bad condition, but if you know how to fix some common issues of a 3D printer and have spare parts to replace by yourself, that could be an amazing deal:
Refurbished Creality Printers (SAVE UP TO 50%):
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As an experienced 3D printer, I am subbed. Your professional reviews cover all I want to know, in a very easy format. Excellent work !!
What printer do you recommend for s beginner? I've done a lot of resin printing but want to get into fdm. What filament do you recommend as well?
@@BabyJesus66 It really depends on a lot of factors. I suggest Teaching Tech UA-cam channel for finding out which is right for you. I like modifying, so I bought an Ender 3 and just keep upgrading.
@@BabyJesus66 i had the Ender 3 Pro. Hot garbage. Avoid Creality, their customer service is nonexistent and the Ender 3 is OLD tech. By the time you have upgraded everything to the specs of this Neptune 3 Pro, you're spending WAY more than even the Creality S1 Pro. I repurposed the 5 year E3P to recycle soda bottles into filament (Recreator 3D). The Neptune 3 Plus I have now is leaps better. I upgraded to an all metal hotend, CHT clone nozzle, copper heat block, higher temp thermistor for less than $20 bucks. Elegoo is an AMAZING printer. Bambu Lab was on my radar but still too new. This N3+ and Klipper upgrade delay the purchase even longer untill more Bambu competition show up. Hopefully Elegoo is working on one too.
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Your review and testing was absolutely excellent, thank you for making this video and showing all of the different tests + the Klipper implementation with Sonic Pad. Incredible work, thank you again!
I had been hoping you would review these machines. Thank you for another detailed review.
Nice detailed straight forward review, just what was needed, thank you.
Great presentation. Simple explanations, without the 'hype'. Thank you.
Great review. Thank you for testing the Neptune 3 Pro with the Sonic Pad and Klipper.
Awesome review. I am continually blow away by your professionalism and presentation skills. I wish you all the best and I'm sure you have a bright future!
You have the best printer reviews in the biz. Thanks for the content!
Very nice video! My compliments on the structure, quality of presentation and the video recordings themselves. Happy to subscribe to your channel for future video's!
Fabulous video! I very much enjoy your videos and the level of professionalism and detail is exceptional.
Great review. I really like how you present the information in a clear way.
Like everyone else, I love your reviews because you cut to the chase and are easy to follow and understand
Right to the point people need to see, without 1 second of distracting stuff, thank you for your content
I agree with earlier commenters, i love your reviews and videos. Super professionally made and very educational! Keep up the great work! ❤️
very good review, especially thanks for testing with klipper
I ordered one of these a few days ago, and it’ll arrive in another few days. This is the best review I ever could’ve found for this printer, and am now feeling very secure in my purchase, especially since this will be the second elegoo I’m adding to my collection.
My far the best review channel. Not too long, everything went over. Never any mistakes. Straight to the point. Well done guys!
Very good review a lot of info to take in on these great priced models, Well Done. D
Great review as usual. Love your channel
This video blew myind! I had no idea my Elegoo Neptune 3 could go this fast. I've been running a Max and found this while trying to squeeze some additional speed out of it. I was expecting like 80mm/s, and you're over here showing off 250mm/s. Thanks for showing s what is possible!
Thank you very much for this video. I just the Max as my very first printer (silly I know) and I'm going to keep coming back to this video whenever I try different materials. Excellent review and fantastic information
Hi Aurora and Helios. Wow! You two have a great channel. Just what I was looking for. I'm over 70 and thinking about using 3D printing to support some other hobbies. I've a lot tot to learn and you look like very good teachers. Sub'd.
I recently got the 3 plus and I love it. I am very new to printing, so I am sure there are many optimizations I can make to get better prints faster, but it has been so easy to get into with this printer
Thanks for the vid. I'm a noob and just ordered the pro and now figuring out all the reasons I need it
So glad you have added the 3 Pro and 3 Plus to your reviews. I totally agree that Elegoo has done an amazing job. I started with a 3 but quickly shifted to a 3 Pro and have not looked back. My existing 3Pro is a star as are your reviews all of "star quality" about which I frequently comment.
I have to wait for stock to return for both a 3 Pro (donating it to local maker space group) and a 3 Plus which I will convert to either a Volcano hot end or the multi-cavity nozzle to up printing speed. I hope you tackle an improved hot end approach to aid others in this work using the 3 Plus as the printer. Thanks for the addition of the Klipper - Creality Sonic Pad in your review - A must addition for my plans for a fast 3 Plus.
You guys always do a Great job !!!
Your tutorial and your prepared Software finally helped me to get the Sonic Pad running with my NE3+. Thank you very much. You are doing a great Job. Greetings from Germany!
Hi, have do you touch anything else in the software config? I cant print withouth problems in my EN3+ with this archive, many thanks!
Thanks a lot, I learned quite a bit - as usual! For example that you can get pretty impressive high speed prints with Klipper on a delrin wheel printer if you have enough part cooling power and you calibrate for vibration first. That's no something I've seen elsewhere. Elegoo looks nice.
Well done, thank you. I bought a N3+ partly based on your very thorough review. I'll do the Sonicpad Klipper setup as you have done. Thank you.
Update: I recently installed part cooling 5015 fans (bigger than the 4010 stock fans) which provide far more cooling.
Your channel is great, very informative.
As a Brit congratulations on getting the correct name of the tower on the House of Parliament, I bet a lot of Brits don't know the real name.
Keep up the great work.
Wonderful review miss. I may have to get the pad and put Klipper on my pro version.
love your informative reviews.
Amazing source of info thanks a lot :)
Great video as always
Great video as usual. I would really appreciate it if you guys could do one about setting up Klipper on the Sovol SV06
@aurora tech, I really enjoy your reviews. I would love to see you expand your scope of videos. Print projects, slicer settings, printer upgrades, even news and so on.
Really good review. I have had an Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro for almost half a year and so far I love it. Until a few days back I have only printed at 70mm/s with PrusaSlicer. Decided to try to experiment with 240mm/s. This machine is really solid! Been my work horse with my Ikea Skådis setup. Might actually buy another one to replace my Ender 3 lol.
Hello, what are your speed parameters to get 240 mm/s? I'm new with 3d printing, so far love my Neptune 3 pro, buy I want to try print faster
Very good and in-depth look at both printers, last month got a n3 plus after purchasing the original n3 and the difference is night and day. Just order a 0.6 nozzle to test how it turns out to print faster. But otherwise great printer for beginners and experienced alike, no complaints so far.
Well done, I tried to grab a Neptune 3 Max once they became available. Unfortunately, I was just a bit late even after getting the notification they were available! Good review looks like decent printers. I've not seen that fume extractor before. I mainly print, PLA, PETG, and carbon nylon. I'm investigating ASA and ABS next so fume control will be more important. Thanks for a great video!
Great review. I ordered the Plus over a month ago which should hopefully ship any day now and the Max on Monday when they were back in preorder stock. For the price and features these can’t be beat. I like how they are based on the STM chipset so they can be added to the Sonic Pad easily which I have hooked up to my E3P.
I was considering getting the SV06 Plus also but the build quality on Elegoo seems better.
Elegoo killing it lately!
this is an amazing printer. I bought two at $210 taxes and shipping included, which is an unreal deal.
I'm a complete noob to 3D printers and I have an Flsun SR arriving tomorrow, partly based upon your review. I truly enjoy your informative and professional presentations. I'm very impressed by your knowledge in the tech arena and you've undoubtedly helped many newcomers and professionals alike with their tech issues. I also enjoyed your "bloopers" in a past video and hope to see more of the "behind the scenes" work/bloopers that goes into these awesome videos. Big kudos to your brother for his expertise behind the camera as well as the fantastic editing. Well done to both of you!
I am interested in the SR and the v400.
I have to,add one more aspect: the music. It’s absent, when somebody is talking, and entertaining, when a machine just does it’s job! No annoying 🤬😵💫😫 sounds are disturbing. It’s so well done!
@Jon LaRue from what I understand, the 400 is not only larger, I think it comes with a software and hardware upgrade, as well as costing about 40% more. The larger capacity machines are all very tempting if you have room for them. My shop is already full of machines and tools so I went with the smaller footprint. Best of luck with your new choice.
@@davidconaway2830 I have the V400. It is quite a lot faster than the SR, but the SR is still a very capable machine. You will certainly enjoy it. Just take your time calibrating it, so you won't get frustrated by print failures and weird quality.
@@SuperTrooperC Thank you. Set up and calibration was very easy.....thanks to the many UA-cam videos out there. Retraction distance was the one item that took several prints to figure out. Very happy now......just need to learn more about a CAD pgm. Thanks again!!
That nylon test is really fascinating...I've shied away from printing nylon because I've felt that even a small area where the filament is exposed to atmosphere would be enough to cause moisture problems. You've got a couple feet of the filament path open to air and that wrench prints beautifully. I might need to dust off the various nylon samples I've accumulated over the years and give them a closer look.
Anyway, I can see why so many people are raving about the Neptune 3 Pro - it seems to be the complete package, particularly for people who are on a budget and don't want to spend a lot of time tinkering or troubleshooting. The value of the Plus really stands out, too, as I felt like I got my Artillery Sidewinder X1 for an absolute steal from Gearbest in August 2020 for $359 and the Plus looks to be superior to the X1 in most ways...and sells for $30 less than what I paid for the X1, which was $60 less than what the X1's going rate was on Amazon back then and a whopping $130 less than what the SWX2 is selling for right now.
I also love your auxiliary cooling fan setup. I wonder if these kinds of fans will become more popular among modders or in new printers released over the next year or two, given the success of the aux cooling fan on the Bambu Lab printers. And every video I see with the Creality Sonic Pad makes me want to get one more. Creality's dominance in the budget printer market is certainly being threatened with solid offerings from Sovol and Elegoo, but as long as printer manufacturers shy away from Klipper they will have a chance at getting their products into even more homes and businesses with how easy and powerful the Sonic Pad is.
Great review, as always!
Increadible value for money! Especially when I calculate what it took me to get my two Enders to this level of completeness. Thanks for your excellent review!
I will buy one with it can go to 300 degrees C or above. I want direct drive hot ends but this unit may need weight reduction to avoid high inertia. Great review. I have a printer farm that needs upgrading, I already have three of their resin printers.
waiting for your Neptune 4 Pro Review!
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I wish i could buy a Neptune 3 plus but they are still out of stock. Great video as when i eventually get one i want to use the sonic pad with it too.
Merci pour cette vidéo je viens de commander la max je la reçois en Avril
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Thanks. Subbed.
Look who is growing up! You're getting bigger lady! I hope you are considering a job as a news anchor or something you would be great and these videos are excellent experience. Great channel guys.
Fantastic review! I enjoyed how thorough your testing was. Do you have a link to the stl file for the auxiliary fan mounting bracket you used?
I really like your reviews. It's to the point with no fluff.
Just a quick one on this, as I'm looking to get my first printer, am I right to say that klipper can be installed directly without the need of a Pi like some of the older printers? Thanks
What was the acceleration that klipper suggested for X and the Y after the input shaping calibration? BTW, amazing thorough review, congrats!
You do a fantastic job in your studio and help many with their decisions. After seeing your Mingda magician review I ordered a machine……now I wonder if you should have bought an Elegoo instead? 🤔🇸🇪
I appreciate your work Aurora - but was wondering how did you increase the speeds so much without a nozzle change / hot end swap? I am testing my hotend volumetric flow rate with PETG and it seems to be around 7.2mm^3 /s which limits my perimeter print speed to 40/45mm/s
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Great in-depth review! Would you recommend the Neptune 3 pro or the Sovol Sv06?
It would be so cool if you could review the Neptune 4/Pro
The max is awesome for what it is. Looking at hotend upgrades now. I have been printing very large plastic mockup engine blocks on the ender extender and this is a little faster and much easier to use. .8MM /.3mm and it looks like it will do about 50mm.
Thanks for the help. I just picked one of these up yesterday after I just couldn't get a Raspberry Pi up and running. I used your files and it connected. It worked a few times and then the extruder started to go to the back right side of the bed after it laid the first line on the left side of the bed. I don't understand the codes at all. I figured the printer.cfg file was telling the extruder that it need to go there. I looked into the file and finally noticed the measurements were 235, 235, and 280. I fixed it to 225, 225, and 280, which seemed to work. I updated the Sonic pad; this could have been the cause, but I think it was happening before. I can not seem to get the camera to capture video/time lapses. The camera seems to work fine to monitor the printer but I an hoping to figure this out too. Again thanks for the help.
I got an N3P this year and love it. How did you go about printing with ABS? I'm worried about melting a few things if I try.
Much better review great value for the money
Do you have or would you consider a video dedicated to setting up the sonic pad on the Neptune 3 max? I’m unfortunately not able to entirely understand the instruction in this video. Thanks.
Excellent review! I stumbled across your channel while looking for information on a different printer a few months ago and I've been a happy subscriber ever since!
That said, question about your experience with the Neptune 3 Pro. I just picked one up a few weeks ago and absolutely love it but I've been unsure about what nozzles to use when it comes to a 0.6mm or a 8.mm size. Would you mind sharing what nozzles you successfully used? Thank you and keep up the awesome work!
Just regular MK8 nozzles that you can get a box of 24 for less than $10 on amazon:
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You just won an S! printer on the Creality give away on 3/28/2023. I was watching live
Great review. I've been looking at the Neptune 3 Plus & Max as I need a larger print size than my Ender 3 S1 Pro. You have sold me on the Neptune 3 Plus. I have also been thinking about using the Sonic Pad with my printers, I'll give that a try too. Thanks for the review. I was wondering, did you try the Plus at 250mm/s? If so, how did it perform? Also, do these faster speeds work well with PET-G using the Sonic Pad. Anyways, great review. You've given me lots to think about. Thanks
Well done I must say. Can you use the PrusaSlice with these units?
Hello,
Your presentation skills are top notch. Will the Neptune 4 (comes with Klipper) achive the same results presented in your review? Don't know if the Creality screen was adding to the results or just allowed Klipper to be installed. Thanks.
I was told you had a video for a profile of the Neptune 4 but cannot seem to find it.
Can you do a review for neptune 4 pro when you get the chance? Your reviews are the best
One smaller down side,they6are alway out of stock,I got the n3pro last November and I'm loving it never failed me
That is a huge downside. The new ones have never been available in Australia and right now you can't get any models at all, not even a Neptune 2.
@@petercallison5765 imagine getting hundreds of thousands of views on TikTok asking you about the printer you like and you have to tell them sorry you can get it , thats whats happening to me which really effected my account m hope they can overcome this huge demand
Thanks for the wonderful tutorial video. My question: Is there anything piece of code/configuration I need to remove from the printer.cfg file if I am not using Sonic Pad?
I can't decide between the Neptune 3 Plus and the Artillery Sidewinder X2... Both videos were great, with great examples, points, summary of pros and cons... I think you make these videos too well :P top tier content.
IMO, Neptune 3 Plus is the best in the same range.
@@AuroraTech Thank you so much for your advice, that's that then :)
You can, if you look around a bit, find a discount code for Artillery x2 which gives you a machine for $245(EU), this and the fact that Artillery can actually be bought makes the choice easier perhaps?
Hi Aurora, great video, do you have any Cura or Prusa Slicer profiles for the Neptune 3 pro and Sonic Pad?
What a great deep review!!! Than you very much. But i want to test ASA filament, so i must to canghe hotend? Any help please...
Hi, I just ordered the 3 plus and was wondering what type of upgrades would you recommend? Would you recommend upgraded hot end, extruder, and heat block or anything else?
wow, this is awesome. I jsut got my elegoo pro and it prints awesome but it's SLOW. if I can up the speed and keep the quality sign me up!
@Aurora Tech without klipper only using the stock firmware can this achieve the 120 mm/s speeds and quality as in your video? (i understand input shaping calibration is not possible with the stock firmware)
Hi, I am looking at the plus as a possible upgrade to my current printer. Can you tell me how wide the printer is without the screen attached on the side? Elegoo says its 533mm wide but is that with or without the screen. Thanks
Will you test the Sovol SV06 Plus? It's just a tad bit smaller than the Neptune Plus but similar price range.
Have you done some on mimaki or hp full color 3d printer review..that will be cool
Onde posso obter o stl para suporte ao ventilador adicional?
Where can I get the stl for the support for the additional fan?
As always - how long extruder ribbon cable will survive? In Kobra Max very quickly you will get NTC abnormal.
I was wondering if one could use the USB port to attach a multi-reader which would accept a USB thumb drive. That way no micro SD card required.
Hello, great video. I've had the Neptune 3 Max for a week and I can't find the settings for TPU. Could you share yours with me? And if you could give me some advice on TPU, I would be immensely grateful
Ok I need to ask, my priint quality isnt great with Neptune 3 max, but I've placed it on the floor now instead of table and it increased, its not perfect, but much less visible layers. 2 questions. 1 how
did you make your desk so sturdy, 2 what else should i check in my n3max
Hello. Please tell me, at 13:00 you insert a flash drive with firmware into the printer. The message "Update Firmware " appears on the screen. Tell me, should the loading bar reach the end? This process takes me a very long time. Is it possible then, in the clipper’s web interface, to understand that the firmware for the printer has been successfully installed?
P.S. Sorry for my English )
Can you also create a printer config for the Elegoo Neptune 3 Max? I can't manage that but I would like to use it with the Sonic Pad.
I have the Max and love it, I am adding the sonic pad to and some other upgrades also, I am wanting to go bigger on the nozzle size but can’t find anything for PETG on cura , any help would be appreciated and you do an awesome job
For PETG, you can use the same settings; just duplicate the PLA profile, change the temperature to 235°C and 85°C for the bed, and adjust the cooling to 40% maximum or completely turn it off depending on what you print. These settings have worked fine for Eryone, Sunlu, Prusa, and many other different PETG filaments I have used.
Hello, I have a Neptune 3 Max and I just purchased the Creality Sonic Pad. Could you share the cura maker profiles so I can have that speed base and test them?
do you have a prusa profile for this printer like you do for the EN4M?
Ok ,please review the privacy policies that go along with these 3d printers, especially the ip, and browser information the companies share with third parties and governments(apon request). Connection to your cell phone also means that you are being tracked.
Your reviews are wonderfully thorough, a criticle review of the "fine print" should also be done on these printers.
Tks.
Aurora, maybe you could give your recommendation for a printer in each price class? Like $200-$300, $300-$500, $500-$800, etc?
How much space does the Neptune 3 Pro take when Y is at max on plus and minus?
What can happen if my hardware on Elegoo Neptune Plus is maybe different from yours and I want to connect it to Sonic Pad using your firmware and cfg file?
So you just turn on the fan or do you have to program it?
Hello, you have beautiful videos and I like them very much, you got subscriber and bell, I was wondering if it is better to buy an Ender 3 v2 neo or S1 printer or this one elegoo neptune 3 pro what would you say? This one is the best for start?❤