QUICK CORRECTION: When I say "YGOPRO2, which I'm pretty sure was just TDOANE guys," at 4:40 - that's MOSTLY true. YGOPRO2 was a DIFFERENT client built on the YGOPro code whose main selling point was an AI-powered practice bot and card renders when you summoned a monster. THAT software was eventually rolled into YGO Omega, which exists today (and is really good). However, TDOANE ALSO made a SECOND client and CALLED IT YGOPRO2, I guess hoping that people would mistake their client for the Omega teams'? Looks like they got me, too!
Hey Joseph, seeing this about manual simulators reminded me of KCVDS (unless there was other sim with Kaiba Corp in its name), and I got to wondering if you ever used it and if you did, what did you think of it.
Oh yugioh, Minecraft. I loved watching Xylophoney play with his dinosaur deck in the yugioh roleplay series. hated when he used Evosaur because he kept on losing with it. but when he played with his jurrac mixed with his other dino cards he was a beast. I especially loved when he brought out Tyranno Infinity as he made it his ace.
I dont know if its just me, but I remember that dueling network had "Dont you (forget about me)" as their login song sometime in the early xyz era. Am I just hallucinating or did this really happend?
@@petterikippo9863 it might have, I know Dueling Network used to change up their Log-In screen theme quite a bit. I remember one april fools was a rick roll
You missed the best part about DN: being able to play at school. Why risk losing your paper yugioh cards when you and the boys can just hop into a game at the computer lab during lunch.
Desperate or not, playing yugioh on roblox during the toughest time of my life lead me to finding my most precious friends and helped me during those time.
Anyone remember the old battle city on Roblox before it was shut down? Still remember tribute summon Levia-Dragon - Daedalus and normal summoning Giga Gagagigo
Between the DN -> DB gap I just stopped playing YGO. I had a ton of free time to think and reflect on life. Decided to quit my decent job (Paramedic) and pursue Medical School. Currently finalizing my residency specialty preference. Sometimes I wonder if I’d have made the leap without the short YGO absence in my life. I play again now but what a monumental, “What did you do without YGO” moment.
Medschool bro 👊. I nearly didn’t make it into medschool cuz of my online simulator yugioh addiction, I loved playing with friends and going into tourneys I nearly flunked my requirements to get in
@@amanwithaplan3873it’s okay I took the MCAT 3 times before doing good enough to feel confident I’d get in 🥴 can’t say I’m a stranger to failure or struggle in this line of academics
As a kid who lived in a rural area and didn't really have anyone around me who played, The Dueling Network closure was absolutely devastating I remember taking refuge on a Yu-Gi-Oh Roblox world someone made for like a few months before I learned about ygopro lol
BYOND was so fun. My favorite part was when I watching a duel somebody played an anime only card and we all had a 45-minute discussion about rulings for a card that wasn't even in the TCG. Good times
I was in a similar situation in EDOPRO these days. Just casually forgot i put the anime version of both junk warrior and shooting quasar dragon in my deck and neither me or my opponent knew WTF was going on when junk warrior's ATK was skyrocketing mid-combo and quasar wasn't negating anything. When we found out what was happening we had a 20 minute conversation about the funky card text not of the anime, but the manga (and also that anime Quasar kinda sucks).
BYOND MENTIONED BYOND MENTIONED This is how I first got into Yugioh online. Idk if it was DM Genesis or not, but I used to spend time on a server that allowed anime-only cards and got quite a few of them banned >:)
Oh gods, I remember Byond. I played on that. My friends and I just really loved a simulator that allowed us to feel like we were in battle city, dueling over streets and rivers. Didn't care it looked like twice-cooked ass, the important part was that we had our avatars standing opposite one another playing giant cards.
I've been trying to remember the fever dream that is Byond for YEARS!!! Thank you for bringing back core memories of leading newbs to the "Shadow Realm" (unrestricted room) where we Exodia FTK'd and killed them with awful Gravekeeper decks. Or my favorite, the anime style "Deck Master" system and my armor cards deck. XD
Personally, I like dueling nexus. It’s the first yugioh simulator I used, and I still use it to this day, ever since I started playing yugioh in 2020. Sometimes the cards can glitch out and become random looking code, but dueling nexus is functional. Plus I can use it anywhere without having to download anything
Yeah, I use Dueling Nexus for a lot of theory crafting and the like. It’s extremely convenient, and when it got an overhaul a few years ago, it’s actually become quite intuitive. Plus it actually works well on mobile, making it a good way to play the TCG if you don’t have a computer.
BYOND was magical to play back in the day when it comes to roleplaying. They even let you setup summon chants that will automatically be entered in text chat when you summon your ace monster. As a kid, it was the coolest thing
BYOND is still kicking! Whilst it's a relatively small bunch of players overall, there are some small few seriously good games there nowadays, with tight-knit playerbases. Had a feeling BYOND would come up when I heard the video topic, too- I think there's actually been a couple YuGiOh games there over the years, in part thanks to one of BYOND's bigger game makers being a big fan back in the day.
God. I was a top moderator for DevPro. Good times. I remember the fact we shut down because the owner didn't want to pay the 100$ for the server anymore and our primary coder wasn't being paid to code so he did coding for us in his free time so we never were able to get Links working correctly so we just shut down.
BYOND MENTIONED! I loved this because they also included the anime-exclusive cards. Had a blast messing around with the 5D's Meklord decks with the individual pieces. It was goofy to say the least, but man it was fun. Good times with the peeps way back when.
YEEEEEESSS THANK YOU! Byond was how I played yugioh way back in the day and I feel like LITERALLY nobody ever talks about it nowadays. I have so many memories of this, honestly it was pretty cool walking around as your own character and finding others to duel with. I remember I used to play Batteryman OTK in it, good times.
I had completely forgot! Byond was the goat! It had tag duels, duels on motorcycles, custom sounds for specific cards… Heck! The seal of Orichalcos and the Earthbound Immortals’ signs used to appear around the duelists when you played the cards! Some people in the server had the millenium items and could use them to cheat! Those were the days!
I still remember logging in the dueling network that one fatal fall day and seeing the message that it wouldn't be up and running anymore, such a sad day
The good thing about Dueling Nexus is that it's one of the few auto-sims to have mobile support. EDOPro is still in beta for mobile, and I don't think Omega is touching it with a 10ft pole. It's also one of the few autosims useable by people who can't run either EDO or Omega because of OS or firewall restrictions (read: students and Chromebooks) as well, and between the choice of "play YGO" or "don't play YGO" there were/are plenty who choose the former. Also, shoutouts BYOND for hosting a YGO simulator and SS13 in the SAME GAME BROWSER, bet more than a few kids learned what the word "murr" meant from some of the more unsavory servers
omega's definitely on mobile (android at least), its kind of ass to try to use though, the buttons are way too small alao yeah holy shit shoutouts to byond i mostly know it from ss13, hearing it mentioned in a yugioh video caught me so off guard lmao
You know this video was fun, but with the yugioh mincraft guy in the thumb I thought you where going to talk about the Minecraft yugioh role play videos that where around like 10 years ago, they are literally the things that got me to play the game lol
Ill always remember my first game on DN way back in 2012. I was on Inzektor practicing for a saturday locals, and my opponent was playing Dark World. I'll never forget him just blatantly calling me several slurs after I told him he couldn't special SIlva and Goldd after pitching them to Hand Destruction. Good times.
I learned to play yugioh on a roblox game known was yugioh dimension duels. I played duel links before but this was my first introduction into the full format. Luckly it was a mix if power level, so somehow I managed to get into the game by building up from playing a monster pile to knowing what an archityoe is. It was a fun place to learn manually, though not everyone knew rulings so I'm sure I cheated in plenty of duels. It had different formats and even action duels. They have a new one now and it's fun to play occasionally with friends. I like going on and seeing all the jank decks people are playing.
7:00 It's a shame what happened to BYOND! As the current Lord of BYOND, I had to leave a comment and let everyone know that BYOND is indeed extremely outdated and our community has moved on to using and teaching Godot. There are only a few stragglers left on the already sunken BYOND ship.
@@superourico5551 Indeed! We tried our best to help and save BYOND but they have too many shady business practices on an old engine that the developer won't even let others touch. A lot of security issues as well. It's a shame. But Godot is so much better as an engine for both single player and online games. We even have some community members that are working on an MMO in Godot that is going quite well!
"We will play on bootleg clients, simulators pulled directly from the Dark Web, and even Minecraft to play Yu-Gi-Oh!" "What about Legacy of the Duelist?" "WHOA! Even we have standards!"
I feel like yugioh really needs some sort of mmo style setting where it's more difficult to build something that looks like a constructed list and most decks end up looking more like a sealed or drafted list, and also where there's more going on in the background than just actual dueling. Like imagine playing a game where you can go around and actually find and collect yugioh cards to build a deck and duel against other people. And maybe even send someone to (or end up in yourself) the shadow realm. Just seems like an untapped market. Maybe we need a palworld dev to come and make it real.
Just making it difficult to build constructed lists would only prompt a pay-to-win mindset. I'd say it would be better to have three options for challenging other players: - "Constructed Duel" would be just like Master Duel's systems, taking on all the pressure of the Meta. - The second is "Draft Duel", with both players voting on which pack they both draft (possibly both picking 1 secret pack?) and construct their decks from their pulls. - Third is "Campaign Duel" where you start with a selecting a Precon and then opening a number of packs containing all cards in the game to improve it over time, getting new packs as you progress through the MMO's campaigns/sidequests/raids/etc. Maybe some have specific rewards, most having a general rewards of new packs to open. Effectively, this is Masochist but you start with a really basic precon. Number of packs opened is listed next to your name, so you can roughly guess if someone's on a similar level of power to you. In order to keep them all honed in on their specific feels, the cards you get for Constructed are not available in Campaign and vice versa, Campaign probably lacks a Craft system, and Draft resets to blank at the end of every duel. This is just a preliminary eyeballing done over like 10 minutes, but it feels like the most competitive would drift towards the Constructed Duel, the more casual would drift towards Campaign Duel, and in the case of there being a large level difference but people don't want to play Constructed, there's Draft Duel.
@@ee822 I'm not sure you saw my point, the entire idea of this is that you play yugioh in an entirely different way. It seems like, just based on the shows, that the "yu-gi-oh ideal" is actually where you find these cards, essentially relics, throughout the world, and you construct a deck using cards that you have found. Picture a traditional mmo to a certain extent, except the combat is dueling, just like in the shows. There isn't really any sort of mmo card collecting game out there (as far as I know, at least none from the major IP's. I do know that WOTC is working on an MTG mmo but I don't believe that it's going to be card-related). On the "pay-to-win" argument: Any game becoming pay to win would be unrelated to the initial design of the of game, theoretically you design it with no microtransactions at all, then maybe say during alpha you attempt to work the monetization in. At least that's what I would do in order to make sure the game stays true to the original design. In other words it's not really a sound argument for an inherent design flaw, it would be a result of balancing failures or monetization problems.
It’s kind of bitterly nostalgic that YVD usually gets left out of these stories. It was a thriving community until Dueling Network completely crushed it 😅
@@hailsaturn it crushed the software but not the community. We still existed as like, dgz lite. It was a small community of us but we played together on DN, discussed stuff and then eventually just, all moved on.
Im surprised that the yugioh vr didn't come up. It gained some super weird lore because one guy that sounds like an actual popular UA-camr yelled "Pot of greed allows me to draw 3 more cards"
@@LtLabcoat if I remember the actual dev added a large number of cards/decks to work with but it definitely was playable. I remember there was a different UA-camr Sumatto that went hard on it with some scripted stuff and it was pretty entertaining. But I think more of the issue was the cost of the VR stuff even moreso than the build of the game
For real tho. Nexus players will either run a Blue-Eyes Structure Deck or you’ll meet someone named something like “TheGreatestWaterKing” and get absolutely cooked by a fish combo you’ve never seen before lol.
Dueling nexus was my first online yugioh experience. It really got me into the game again. I don't have a computer or laptop, so the browser based system let me use it the Library, my school chrome book, and eventually my smartphone. It'll always be nostalgic to me even if I switched to Edopro's mobile version
In addition to the dueling mod, there was also a Minecraft server that ran yugioh in vanilla Minecraft! Was active in it for a few years and still don’t understand how it was made
6:57 I cannot stress how much of a jump scare this was, theres no way my streamer knows BYOND! I play a lot of SS13 and holy shit this gave me a heart attack, I was not ready for these communities to be connected in my head
Yooooo BYOND mentioned! Something that you really should've touched on is just how... hard it is to do a lot of stuff with byond. The engine itself is starting to age slowly, so the fact that any game on it is still getting regular updates is astounding. Dream Maker is an incredibly dated program that makes development difficult, so much so that the biggest game on BYOND, Space Station 13, has almost entirely eschewed from using DM code. The fact that anything resembling working Yu-Gi-Oh has been made in BYOND is crazy! Since Yu-Gi-Oh is such a complex game to adapt to anything digital, especially when even slightly automated, it's impressive that people have managed to do it in BYOND of all things! Honestly, I'd love to see you try out Space Station 13 at some point! Even if not on stream, just, on your own time. It's an impressively large game for the BYOND engine, with multiple different versions of it available.
I played A LOT of Duel Monsters Genesis back then Due to its limited resources it has EVERYTHING, it's open world, you can be literally any character of the show in the game, it's a manual simulator, it had anime cards, tcg cards, turbo duels, d-wheels, sound effects from the anime, duel platforms, you could even write custom chants for your monsters. If an actual konami sponsored game was made with all these features would be hands down the best yugioh game of all time
I was spending way too much time running experiments on Edopro back in the day. I remember building a deck with Gale Dogra and Telekinetic Charging Cell and a bunch of reborn cards to dump my whole extra deck and resurrect it. "Why doesn't it work?!" as I learned the hard truth of proper summons. Also playing the first wave of Ghostrick cards pre-release, with Swords of Concealing Light and Spirit Barrier. Fun times.
Genuinely suprised we didn’t talk about the Roblox game that works similarly to beyond, but with its own custom banlist and fully updated cardpool and playerbase
I don't get to go to locals very often, so whenever I get the itch to play Yugioh and not have to deal with the Level 2 Earth Insect in MD, there's a VRChat world I can hop into and play people in. it's never super crowded, but it's fun. though most people that go to that VRChat world in public instances are playing casual/anime decks. the world's owner does run monthly tournaments though, which is neat. I know people play meta during that.
Playing Roblox Yugioh simulators is honestly kind of... (How should I describe this...?) an _experience._ On one hand you can chat with many people. Even with those who are not currently dueling you which is amazing when it comes to interacting with other players from around the globe. However on the other hand, you are playing with arguably one of the worst online communities to have ever existed. It's basically a dice roll of whether you will interact with a genuinely chill dude/dudette, an anime roleplayer, someone who complains about every single little action you do, your average yugiboomer, a furry, or one of the most ugly slender-emo-edgy avatar-wearing 12 year old covered head-to-toe in User Generated Content accessories who might as well wear a t-shirt that says "Avoid at all costs".
What a cool video! I’m extremely new to the competitive YGO scene (about 1-2 years now), and hearing about these odd pieces of history is fascinating. I may just have to check out that mc mod at some point now.
dire, please, if you're going to put a title card before every chapter of a video: 1. make them different, at the very least in audio 2. don't put one literally 5 seconds after the previous one 3. try and match the tone of the visuals to the tone of the audio (ie. don't make sleek, slightly edgy visuals and pair it up with Mario 64 music) Signed, an aspiring visual effects artist
The people who really got me into the tcg had started playing on dueling nexus after the fall of network and so I've pretty much always used nexus as my auto sim of choice, especially because for a long time it was the only one that could be used from a cell phone. Also, I currently use the yugioh dueling mod and even though it hasnt been updated in a while it is one of the most enjoyable ways to play and experience older formats and I highly recommend it to anyone considering doing something roughly in the style of progression with their friends.
When he started getting into the various fan-made clients I was thinking "Ah but surely he'd never talk about BYOND, does anybody even know about that shit anymore?" and wouldn't you know it I flipped my FUCKING lid when it came up. Real ones know.
BYOND reminds me a lot of Cardfight Area. An honorable mention should also go to the funny Roblox simulators. You could probably make an entire video about those.
I think this was excellent. This quick lil stop-by-stop of YuGiOh Community History is FASCINATING in a way that appeals both to the game nerd and YGO fan inside me. Really great video Mr. Bussy T.
I remember coming home from school, finishing my homework, and getting ready to spend my computer time, I went to dueling network....and was gutted. I was so confused as I was a kiddy who didn't read the news about it. I was so frustrated i nearly gave up yugioh.
Oh yugioh Minecraft. I loved watching Xylophoney play with his dinosaur deck in the yugioh roleplay series. hated when he used Evosaur because he kept on losing with it. but when he played with his jurrac mixed with his other dino cards he was a beast. I especially loved when he brought out tyranno infinity as he made it his ace.
God this vid takes me back. I had no locals in my area back then and my mom didnt want to burn gas to go two towns down. Dueling network, more so the forums i didnt like manual play, and percy were key to having any Yu-Gi-Oh games at that time. My heart broke when they were both shut down and wasnt aware of alternatives at the time. Nowadays i still play online only, the local situation is better but nowYu-Gi-Oh is expensive and im not dumping my old cards to get a budget deck rolling. I now use YGO omega for my client. Edo is great but i like the more polished ui and deck editor that omega packs. I havent tried the multiplayer functions because snake eyes meta is scary and none of my preffered decks could even hit that power. I feel like i would waste others time.
another thing about nexus is that it worked on mobile. my friends didnt have computers in highschool due to monetary situations out of their control, but they did have decent enough phones to run nexus, so thats how we played yugioh digitally. i believe it also works on xbox one? which is funny
I played on byond because they had cool items that would mimic the anime effects. Like a orichalcos stone that when you won the duel would close the seal on your opponent and then force them to log out of the server when the animation finished. If you had the anime slifer card you could use the strings skin to summon it without being struck by lightning. Was cool.
Dude, I got such a nostalgia high when I saw the Nexus segment and how the website used to look back in the day. I would use Nexus all the time during middle and high school on my school Chromebooks (It was the only automatic sim option I had). I still use the website to this day, but I don't use it as often as I used to. Thank you Nexus for carrying me through the boring days of middle school and high school.
I remember skipping classes to play with a friend in Dueling Network during the rise of the pendulum era. We did a lot of challenges and stuff using that site. It was gold
I remember DN. Everyone at my locals uses it to build and test decks. I recall days when my friends and I would spend a whole Saturday dueling at the library
QUICK CORRECTION: When I say "YGOPRO2, which I'm pretty sure was just TDOANE guys," at 4:40 - that's MOSTLY true.
YGOPRO2 was a DIFFERENT client built on the YGOPro code whose main selling point was an AI-powered practice bot and card renders when you summoned a monster. THAT software was eventually rolled into YGO Omega, which exists today (and is really good).
However, TDOANE ALSO made a SECOND client and CALLED IT YGOPRO2, I guess hoping that people would mistake their client for the Omega teams'? Looks like they got me, too!
Hey Joseph, seeing this about manual simulators reminded me of KCVDS (unless there was other sim with Kaiba Corp in its name), and I got to wondering if you ever used it and if you did, what did you think of it.
Oh yugioh, Minecraft. I loved watching Xylophoney play with his dinosaur deck in the yugioh roleplay series. hated when he used Evosaur because he kept on losing with it. but when he played with his jurrac mixed with his other dino cards he was a beast. I especially loved when he brought out Tyranno Infinity as he made it his ace.
Nothing will ever hit harder than sitting on the Log-In screen of Dueling Network late at night while GX op 3 Teardrop plays in the background.
Welp, you just opened a floodgate of nostalgia...
Yugioh Boomer core memory
TRUEEE they don't know how good they have it
I dont know if its just me, but I remember that dueling network had "Dont you (forget about me)" as their login song sometime in the early xyz era. Am I just hallucinating or did this really happend?
@@petterikippo9863 it might have, I know Dueling Network used to change up their Log-In screen theme quite a bit. I remember one april fools was a rick roll
You missed the best part about DN: being able to play at school. Why risk losing your paper yugioh cards when you and the boys can just hop into a game at the computer lab during lunch.
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You could play games in the computer lab during lunch?
That probably was more due to the lack of security on computers in 2011 than DN over DB
@@J3Puffin yeah we could go to the library/computer lab instead of lunch.
Desperate or not, playing yugioh on roblox during the toughest time of my life lead me to finding my most precious friends and helped me during those time.
And when I tried it I found some nasty rule sharks, and an entire echo chambered group of them
Anyone remember the old battle city on Roblox before it was shut down? Still remember tribute summon Levia-Dragon - Daedalus and normal summoning Giga Gagagigo
Shoutout to godly sinner for making that
Can relate,I found really great friends by playing Roblox yugioh
Oh hey! My old Minecraft server getting a mention! :D
Its literally the thumbnail also great work! I didn't play it but still great work!
You made a great thing. Be proud.
i miss the server 😔
@@menaatefadly thank you!
@@createrz8433 I appreciate it! It wasn't so great, but it felt like Duelingbook but more sociable. Very chill!
Between the DN -> DB gap I just stopped playing YGO. I had a ton of free time to think and reflect on life. Decided to quit my decent job (Paramedic) and pursue Medical School. Currently finalizing my residency specialty preference. Sometimes I wonder if I’d have made the leap without the short YGO absence in my life. I play again now but what a monumental, “What did you do without YGO” moment.
Medschool bro 👊. I nearly didn’t make it into medschool cuz of my online simulator yugioh addiction, I loved playing with friends and going into tourneys I nearly flunked my requirements to get in
@@amanwithaplan3873it’s okay I took the MCAT 3 times before doing good enough to feel confident I’d get in 🥴 can’t say I’m a stranger to failure or struggle in this line of academics
yugioh in minecraft doesn't seem real in the least and yet i can believe it without a shred of skepticism
Minecraft is the most popular game in the world by a far margin, it likely has mods supporting every fandom
Dueling Nexus software so good they (almost) named a core set after it
Lmaoo yea
As a kid who lived in a rural area and didn't really have anyone around me who played, The Dueling Network closure was absolutely devastating
I remember taking refuge on a Yu-Gi-Oh Roblox world someone made for like a few months before I learned about ygopro lol
Not everyday I hear BYOND mentioned. I still love Space Station 13.
BYOND was so fun. My favorite part was when I watching a duel somebody played an anime only card and we all had a 45-minute discussion about rulings for a card that wasn't even in the TCG. Good times
The game still exists and I still get into arguments about how anime only cards would work in the tcg
I was in a similar situation in EDOPRO these days.
Just casually forgot i put the anime version of both junk warrior and shooting quasar dragon in my deck and neither me or my opponent knew WTF was going on when junk warrior's ATK was skyrocketing mid-combo and quasar wasn't negating anything. When we found out what was happening we had a 20 minute conversation about the funky card text not of the anime, but the manga (and also that anime Quasar kinda sucks).
Imagine having to argue the ruling for “losing your soul” if someone plays the Seal of Orichalcos.
Yooo yeah it was lol pokemon but yugioh was just vibes
I had no idea BYOND hosted any yugioh sims.
I used to use it for Space Station 13 all the time
Is that THE Marisa Kirisame from the Touhou Project?
Can’t believe MBT shelled out to get a cameo from someone that famous!
Touhou hijack lol
Timestamp?
Haven't even watched the video, I just see "byond" in the description and get thrown back a clean 15+ years, dear god.
I remember using the byond engine to play Cardfight Vangaurd Area via a sketchy russian server in the early 2010s. Great time
oh, this is what he needed the TDOANE clip for
BYOND (Build your own net dream) MENTIONED!? Holy crap. I never thought this day would come.
BYOND MENTIONED BYOND MENTIONED
This is how I first got into Yugioh online. Idk if it was DM Genesis or not, but I used to spend time on a server that allowed anime-only cards and got quite a few of them banned >:)
Oh gods, I remember Byond. I played on that. My friends and I just really loved a simulator that allowed us to feel like we were in battle city, dueling over streets and rivers. Didn't care it looked like twice-cooked ass, the important part was that we had our avatars standing opposite one another playing giant cards.
You said Byond and I immediately knew how bad the community was truely hurting
I've been trying to remember the fever dream that is Byond for YEARS!!! Thank you for bringing back core memories of leading newbs to the "Shadow Realm" (unrestricted room) where we Exodia FTK'd and killed them with awful Gravekeeper decks.
Or my favorite, the anime style "Deck Master" system and my armor cards deck. XD
Mentioning Byond brought back some of the most radioactive memories
Holy SHIT I didn’t think I’d see Byond anywhere this side of Space Station 13
Personally, I like dueling nexus. It’s the first yugioh simulator I used, and I still use it to this day, ever since I started playing yugioh in 2020. Sometimes the cards can glitch out and become random looking code, but dueling nexus is functional. Plus I can use it anywhere without having to download anything
Dueling Nexus is kind of goated ngl.
same, but i could absolutely do without the way it screams at you to turn off adblock (while still spitting 3 ads in your face through it)
Nexus player WILL leave the moment their play get interrupted or sees a combo player
Yeah, I use Dueling Nexus for a lot of theory crafting and the like. It’s extremely convenient, and when it got an overhaul a few years ago, it’s actually become quite intuitive. Plus it actually works well on mobile, making it a good way to play the TCG if you don’t have a computer.
I can't believe BYOND is still a thing. I remember using it as a kid specifically to play Mega Man fan games in like 2009-2010.
space station 13 is like 90% of its traffic in the last decade to be fair
I mean it's got a couple of good games, but yeah most of the population is on SS13 doing degenerate things...
BYOND was magical to play back in the day when it comes to roleplaying. They even let you setup summon chants that will automatically be entered in text chat when you summon your ace monster. As a kid, it was the coolest thing
I lived on Duel Monsters Expert in BYOND as a teenager, man, and when i saw the thumnbail i pogged out of my fuckin mind.
BYOND is still kicking! Whilst it's a relatively small bunch of players overall, there are some small few seriously good games there nowadays, with tight-knit playerbases.
Had a feeling BYOND would come up when I heard the video topic, too- I think there's actually been a couple YuGiOh games there over the years, in part thanks to one of BYOND's bigger game makers being a big fan back in the day.
God. I was a top moderator for DevPro. Good times. I remember the fact we shut down because the owner didn't want to pay the 100$ for the server anymore and our primary coder wasn't being paid to code so he did coding for us in his free time so we never were able to get Links working correctly so we just shut down.
BYOND MENTIONED!
I loved this because they also included the anime-exclusive cards. Had a blast messing around with the 5D's Meklord decks with the individual pieces. It was goofy to say the least, but man it was fun. Good times with the peeps way back when.
That Byond mention unlocked some very fond childhood memories
Real OG's remember having to set up hamachi to play Kaiba Corp Virtual Dueling System
YEEEEEESSS THANK YOU! Byond was how I played yugioh way back in the day and I feel like LITERALLY nobody ever talks about it nowadays. I have so many memories of this, honestly it was pretty cool walking around as your own character and finding others to duel with. I remember I used to play Batteryman OTK in it, good times.
Oh man, Byond!!! I haven't heard that in so long. Me and a few of my friends used to play in it often. Damn, I am old lol
I had completely forgot! Byond was the goat! It had tag duels, duels on motorcycles, custom sounds for specific cards… Heck! The seal of Orichalcos and the Earthbound Immortals’ signs used to appear around the duelists when you played the cards! Some people in the server had the millenium items and could use them to cheat! Those were the days!
I still remember logging in the dueling network that one fatal fall day and seeing the message that it wouldn't be up and running anymore, such a sad day
A stream just going through these in the current day would go CRAZY
The good thing about Dueling Nexus is that it's one of the few auto-sims to have mobile support. EDOPro is still in beta for mobile, and I don't think Omega is touching it with a 10ft pole.
It's also one of the few autosims useable by people who can't run either EDO or Omega because of OS or firewall restrictions (read: students and Chromebooks) as well, and between the choice of "play YGO" or "don't play YGO" there were/are plenty who choose the former.
Also, shoutouts BYOND for hosting a YGO simulator and SS13 in the SAME GAME BROWSER, bet more than a few kids learned what the word "murr" meant from some of the more unsavory servers
omega's definitely on mobile (android at least), its kind of ass to try to use though, the buttons are way too small
alao yeah holy shit shoutouts to byond
i mostly know it from ss13, hearing it mentioned in a yugioh video caught me so off guard lmao
You know this video was fun, but with the yugioh mincraft guy in the thumb I thought you where going to talk about the Minecraft yugioh role play videos that where around like 10 years ago, they are literally the things that got me to play the game lol
Are you talking about the xylophone ones ? Because he pretty much retired the Minecraft channel and is just now doing yugioh .
@@thecomradewarda yeah, tbh I could never get behind just there yugioh content, because it was just so standard
Ill always remember my first game on DN way back in 2012. I was on Inzektor practicing for a saturday locals, and my opponent was playing Dark World. I'll never forget him just blatantly calling me several slurs after I told him he couldn't special SIlva and Goldd after pitching them to Hand Destruction. Good times.
Dude im surprised to see BYOND it was so fun i played my crystal beasts so much on there back in the day.
I learned to play yugioh on a roblox game known was yugioh dimension duels. I played duel links before but this was my first introduction into the full format.
Luckly it was a mix if power level, so somehow I managed to get into the game by building up from playing a monster pile to knowing what an archityoe is.
It was a fun place to learn manually, though not everyone knew rulings so I'm sure I cheated in plenty of duels. It had different formats and even action duels.
They have a new one now and it's fun to play occasionally with friends. I like going on and seeing all the jank decks people are playing.
YOOOOO yugioh dimension duels was PEAK!!
7:00 It's a shame what happened to BYOND! As the current Lord of BYOND, I had to leave a comment and let everyone know that BYOND is indeed extremely outdated and our community has moved on to using and teaching Godot. There are only a few stragglers left on the already sunken BYOND ship.
Woah, your channel has a bunch of tutorials!!
@@superourico5551 Indeed! We tried our best to help and save BYOND but they have too many shady business practices on an old engine that the developer won't even let others touch. A lot of security issues as well. It's a shame. But Godot is so much better as an engine for both single player and online games. We even have some community members that are working on an MMO in Godot that is going quite well!
"We will play on bootleg clients, simulators pulled directly from the Dark Web, and even Minecraft to play Yu-Gi-Oh!"
"What about Legacy of the Duelist?"
"WHOA! Even we have standards!"
I feel like yugioh really needs some sort of mmo style setting where it's more difficult to build something that looks like a constructed list and most decks end up looking more like a sealed or drafted list, and also where there's more going on in the background than just actual dueling. Like imagine playing a game where you can go around and actually find and collect yugioh cards to build a deck and duel against other people. And maybe even send someone to (or end up in yourself) the shadow realm.
Just seems like an untapped market. Maybe we need a palworld dev to come and make it real.
Just making it difficult to build constructed lists would only prompt a pay-to-win mindset. I'd say it would be better to have three options for challenging other players:
- "Constructed Duel" would be just like Master Duel's systems, taking on all the pressure of the Meta.
- The second is "Draft Duel", with both players voting on which pack they both draft (possibly both picking 1 secret pack?) and construct their decks from their pulls.
- Third is "Campaign Duel" where you start with a selecting a Precon and then opening a number of packs containing all cards in the game to improve it over time, getting new packs as you progress through the MMO's campaigns/sidequests/raids/etc. Maybe some have specific rewards, most having a general rewards of new packs to open. Effectively, this is Masochist but you start with a really basic precon. Number of packs opened is listed next to your name, so you can roughly guess if someone's on a similar level of power to you.
In order to keep them all honed in on their specific feels, the cards you get for Constructed are not available in Campaign and vice versa, Campaign probably lacks a Craft system, and Draft resets to blank at the end of every duel.
This is just a preliminary eyeballing done over like 10 minutes, but it feels like the most competitive would drift towards the Constructed Duel, the more casual would drift towards Campaign Duel, and in the case of there being a large level difference but people don't want to play Constructed, there's Draft Duel.
@@ee822 I'm not sure you saw my point, the entire idea of this is that you play yugioh in an entirely different way. It seems like, just based on the shows, that the "yu-gi-oh ideal" is actually where you find these cards, essentially relics, throughout the world, and you construct a deck using cards that you have found. Picture a traditional mmo to a certain extent, except the combat is dueling, just like in the shows. There isn't really any sort of mmo card collecting game out there (as far as I know, at least none from the major IP's. I do know that WOTC is working on an MTG mmo but I don't believe that it's going to be card-related).
On the "pay-to-win" argument: Any game becoming pay to win would be unrelated to the initial design of the of game, theoretically you design it with no microtransactions at all, then maybe say during alpha you attempt to work the monetization in. At least that's what I would do in order to make sure the game stays true to the original design. In other words it's not really a sound argument for an inherent design flaw, it would be a result of balancing failures or monetization problems.
God as someone who still plays Byond stuff to this day, its good to see it getting some spotlight of the old Dreammaker engine
"Ha! You young'uns aren't even born yet when I was playing on YVD back in my day!"
YVD was so freaking clunky in the beginning but it was the only way to play YGO online around 2005/2006.
It’s kind of bitterly nostalgic that YVD usually gets left out of these stories. It was a thriving community until Dueling Network completely crushed it 😅
The yugioh virtual desktop ah the memories. Pictureless pixelated textbox
ah, YVD, where you had to exchange IP addresses in IRC to play
@@hailsaturn it crushed the software but not the community. We still existed as like, dgz lite. It was a small community of us but we played together on DN, discussed stuff and then eventually just, all moved on.
Anyone remember the tabletop simulators that required you to use Hamachi networks to play?
And then there was *gulp* Yu-Gi-Oh! online...
yoooooooooooo, byond mention!
I'm familiar with the engine mostly because of Space Station 13, which is still chugging along to this day.
Genesis is still one of my favorites because it caters to the anime loving crowd by adding a bunch of anime cards
Im surprised that the yugioh vr didn't come up. It gained some super weird lore because one guy that sounds like an actual popular UA-camr yelled "Pot of greed allows me to draw 3 more cards"
Did that actually go anywhere? I assumed it was functionally just a tech demo prototype, and not actually suitable for playing the game at all.
@@LtLabcoat if I remember the actual dev added a large number of cards/decks to work with but it definitely was playable. I remember there was a different UA-camr Sumatto that went hard on it with some scripted stuff and it was pretty entertaining. But I think more of the issue was the cost of the VR stuff even moreso than the build of the game
...do you mean WayneRadio...???
So you basically made a Twitter thread video but you also gave us the answers? Bravo Joseph.
as a dueling nexus user, i can confirm its horrible to test decks when 9/10 of ur opps are on blue eyes batchest
For real tho. Nexus players will either run a Blue-Eyes Structure Deck or you’ll meet someone named something like “TheGreatestWaterKing” and get absolutely cooked by a fish combo you’ve never seen before lol.
trueee, the amount of times I had to fight Dark Magician/Blue-eyes set 5 pass in ranked is wild
@@Monster_Hunter-rn2dk guess who is the guy who spent literal months labbing a combo with punk gold pride that ends on like 10 inturupts 😭😭
7:02 HOLY SHIT I REMEMBER BYOND
BACK IN THE 5DS ERA THIS SHIT WAS PEAK
Yeah Dawn of the New Era was how I started playing the game.
Then I found DB and never looked back.
same but with percy, edopro/db
Dueling nexus was my first online yugioh experience. It really got me into the game again. I don't have a computer or laptop, so the browser based system let me use it the Library, my school chrome book, and eventually my smartphone. It'll always be nostalgic to me even if I switched to Edopro's mobile version
Very good video. Returning to Yugioh a few years ago and discovering like 17 different simulators that are basically the same thing was confusing.
Super interesting video about a part of Yugioh's history I never would've known about otherwise. Really good stuff.
In addition to the dueling mod, there was also a Minecraft server that ran yugioh in vanilla Minecraft! Was active in it for a few years and still don’t understand how it was made
Yu-Craft right?
@@zyphrous5894 Yep! There’s also still a slightly active modded MC yugioh community called Duelist Academy Network
6:57
I cannot stress how much of a jump scare this was, theres no way my streamer knows BYOND!
I play a lot of SS13 and holy shit this gave me a heart attack, I was not ready for these communities to be connected in my head
Yooooo BYOND mentioned!
Something that you really should've touched on is just how... hard it is to do a lot of stuff with byond. The engine itself is starting to age slowly, so the fact that any game on it is still getting regular updates is astounding. Dream Maker is an incredibly dated program that makes development difficult, so much so that the biggest game on BYOND, Space Station 13, has almost entirely eschewed from using DM code.
The fact that anything resembling working Yu-Gi-Oh has been made in BYOND is crazy! Since Yu-Gi-Oh is such a complex game to adapt to anything digital, especially when even slightly automated, it's impressive that people have managed to do it in BYOND of all things!
Honestly, I'd love to see you try out Space Station 13 at some point! Even if not on stream, just, on your own time. It's an impressively large game for the BYOND engine, with multiple different versions of it available.
I played A LOT of Duel Monsters Genesis back then
Due to its limited resources it has EVERYTHING, it's open world, you can be literally any character of the show in the game, it's a manual simulator, it had anime cards, tcg cards, turbo duels, d-wheels, sound effects from the anime, duel platforms, you could even write custom chants for your monsters.
If an actual konami sponsored game was made with all these features would be hands down the best yugioh game of all time
I was spending way too much time running experiments on Edopro back in the day. I remember building a deck with Gale Dogra and Telekinetic Charging Cell and a bunch of reborn cards to dump my whole extra deck and resurrect it.
"Why doesn't it work?!" as I learned the hard truth of proper summons.
Also playing the first wave of Ghostrick cards pre-release, with Swords of Concealing Light and Spirit Barrier. Fun times.
Damn, the DMG mention hit hard, I still remember the ability of adding a soundtrack to your ace card
Best manual simulator is VRChat Duel Cafe, it's like you're really there. Plus the community is like not that terrible, I swear
seeing all the cafe community members in the comments here has been a nice surprise (:
Genuinely suprised we didn’t talk about the Roblox game that works similarly to beyond, but with its own custom banlist and fully updated cardpool and playerbase
Could you please tell me which game that is? I do play Roblox and I wouldn’t mind starting from scratch and building my way up
@@dakota9399there are a few rn, the only two with a consistent player base are DDX and Academy
I’d personally recommend DDX
@@dakota9399oh hey i rember you from the mc server, the game is called DDX/Dimension duels X
Dimension Duels?
I don't get to go to locals very often, so whenever I get the itch to play Yugioh and not have to deal with the Level 2 Earth Insect in MD, there's a VRChat world I can hop into and play people in. it's never super crowded, but it's fun. though most people that go to that VRChat world in public instances are playing casual/anime decks. the world's owner does run monthly tournaments though, which is neat. I know people play meta during that.
omg, Duel Cafe mentioned, huge
There is also a vrchat duel cafe
No way the Dueling Network crisis was 8 years ago
And here's hoping this video causes, indirectly or not, the revival of the minecraft yugioh server-
Playing Roblox Yugioh simulators is honestly kind of... (How should I describe this...?) an _experience._
On one hand you can chat with many people. Even with those who are not currently dueling you which is amazing when it comes to interacting with other players from around the globe.
However on the other hand, you are playing with arguably one of the worst online communities to have ever existed.
It's basically a dice roll of whether you will interact with a genuinely chill dude/dudette, an anime roleplayer, someone who complains about every single little action you do, your average yugiboomer, a furry, or one of the most ugly slender-emo-edgy avatar-wearing 12 year old covered head-to-toe in User Generated Content accessories who might as well wear a t-shirt that says "Avoid at all costs".
You forgot about Yu-Gi-Oh VR duels
What a cool video! I’m extremely new to the competitive YGO scene (about 1-2 years now), and hearing about these odd pieces of history is fascinating. I may just have to check out that mc mod at some point now.
I remember playing black wings on devpro. Good old memories...
dire, please, if you're going to put a title card before every chapter of a video:
1. make them different, at the very least in audio
2. don't put one literally 5 seconds after the previous one
3. try and match the tone of the visuals to the tone of the audio (ie. don't make sleek, slightly edgy visuals and pair it up with Mario 64 music)
Signed, an aspiring visual effects artist
The people who really got me into the tcg had started playing on dueling nexus after the fall of network and so I've pretty much always used nexus as my auto sim of choice, especially because for a long time it was the only one that could be used from a cell phone. Also, I currently use the yugioh dueling mod and even though it hasnt been updated in a while it is one of the most enjoyable ways to play and experience older formats and I highly recommend it to anyone considering doing something roughly in the style of progression with their friends.
For the longest time I have been trying to remember the name byond. I used to play that so much back in the day.
When he started getting into the various fan-made clients I was thinking "Ah but surely he'd never talk about BYOND, does anybody even know about that shit anymore?" and wouldn't you know it I flipped my FUCKING lid when it came up. Real ones know.
The way the people in byond were chatting in the text box is exemplary of the era and brings back bad memories
There's something really charming about some of the simulators framing it like you're in the anime
And yes, we have DDX in Roblox. With some werld format(chaos ruler free for ex)
BYOND reminds me a lot of Cardfight Area.
An honorable mention should also go to the funny Roblox simulators. You could probably make an entire video about those.
Having to explain that we were so down bad for a sim we used Minecraft to new players will never get old
Rest in Peace, Dueling Network. Thanks for filling my highschool with nostalgia :')
I was listening to this video BEGGING Byond was going to get a shout out, so nostalgic for me lol
one day someone will talk about VRChat Duel Cafe 😔
I think this was excellent. This quick lil stop-by-stop of YuGiOh Community History is FASCINATING in a way that appeals both to the game nerd and YGO fan inside me. Really great video Mr. Bussy T.
God I remember being so sad when Network shut down
I’m a huge fan of these smaller type of videos that cover some history. I hope you keep making these
this is peak nostalgia. That blocky duel board with the octagon rainbow phase markers
I remember coming home from school, finishing my homework, and getting ready to spend my computer time, I went to dueling network....and was gutted. I was so confused as I was a kiddy who didn't read the news about it. I was so frustrated i nearly gave up yugioh.
Oh yugioh Minecraft. I loved watching Xylophoney play with his dinosaur deck in the yugioh roleplay series. hated when he used Evosaur because he kept on losing with it. but when he played with his jurrac mixed with his other dino cards he was a beast. I especially loved when he brought out tyranno infinity as he made it his ace.
God this vid takes me back. I had no locals in my area back then and my mom didnt want to burn gas to go two towns down. Dueling network, more so the forums i didnt like manual play, and percy were key to having any Yu-Gi-Oh games at that time. My heart broke when they were both shut down and wasnt aware of alternatives at the time.
Nowadays i still play online only, the local situation is better but nowYu-Gi-Oh is expensive and im not dumping my old cards to get a budget deck rolling. I now use YGO omega for my client. Edo is great but i like the more polished ui and deck editor that omega packs. I havent tried the multiplayer functions because snake eyes meta is scary and none of my preffered decks could even hit that power. I feel like i would waste others time.
And now im playing YuGIOh in VR :P
another thing about nexus is that it worked on mobile. my friends didnt have computers in highschool due to monetary situations out of their control, but they did have decent enough phones to run nexus, so thats how we played yugioh digitally. i believe it also works on xbox one? which is funny
My favourite thing about some simulators is that it let you play the alternative effects of cards and even anime cards
I played on byond because they had cool items that would mimic the anime effects. Like a orichalcos stone that when you won the duel would close the seal on your opponent and then force them to log out of the server when the animation finished. If you had the anime slifer card you could use the strings skin to summon it without being struck by lightning. Was cool.
Dude, I got such a nostalgia high when I saw the Nexus segment and how the website used to look back in the day. I would use Nexus all the time during middle and high school on my school Chromebooks (It was the only automatic sim option I had). I still use the website to this day, but I don't use it as often as I used to. Thank you Nexus for carrying me through the boring days of middle school and high school.
I remember skipping classes to play with a friend in Dueling Network during the rise of the pendulum era. We did a lot of challenges and stuff using that site. It was gold
WOAH, dueling nexus is how I got back into the game during covid, was not expecting it here lol
I remember DN. Everyone at my locals uses it to build and test decks. I recall days when my friends and I would spend a whole Saturday dueling at the library