THESE YU-GI-OH CARDS WERE TERRIBLE! (...until they weren't.)
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
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I appreciate the spectrum of answers in the thread.
"This card was bad, but broken later."
"This card was always good, it just took the right deck to break it."
"This card was okay, but it got much better."
"I didn't even read the prompt, here's Sangan and Baronne."
"here's card that was released already on the banlist"
"You know Pot of Greed might be good but im not sure, need to play test more"
“Here’s a card that was good on release, fell off, but then came back”
Wow, what a normal Twitter thread with generally good takes. Now to take a big sip of water and look at how long is left in the video.
Surely there wont be 2 mins of video left after the sponsor screen 😁
@@notkamikaze surely said 2 minutes would be good and productive to the overall point of the video.
That epilogue was hysterical, I'm stunned at the amount of cards people didn't know about and thought were found outta nowhere
Edit: Holy cow 1k likes in less than a day thank you guys
Wasn't Compulse limited for the longest time?
AFD was found out of nowhere. Well more like everyone knew it could be bonkers and were just waiting for it. And had to wait over a decade for it to happen
@@ab2aasd Yes and it was played at 1.
Or trolling
@@JABRIEL251 also possible
That's it, every twitter thread video should just be you reading bad posts from literal fetuses like that ending it's too hilarious
just realised the Tour Guide tweet was from Farfa lol
I like for estelle
@@Kerim9991 Brainworms strikes again
TRUEEEE
it was better than the main part of the vid
"Kashtira Ariseheart wasn't good between it coming off the printers but before being put into packs. We made a real hot discovery with that one."
lol
I wish the post-credits scene was longer than the rest of the video.
Common Dire L not making the video like that tbh (joke)
During the stream it absolutely absolutely was longer, and it was *agonizing*.
God the outtakes at the end are SO good. Motherfuckers exposing the hell outta themselves with some of these replies. Saying Compulse BECAME good with Lab is fucking insanity. Sometimes you can just tell when a person started playing this game on January 18, 2022 exactly.
Lab didn't make CED good, but it was bad when it first came out. It became good on the 2nd of September, 2008.
@@manjackson2772
It was so bad alot of goat decklists play it
Compulse was used in every one of my decks since it came out, I played that shit during peak spiral format in Traptrix and it was good
@@manjackson2772 What are you on? Compulse was good before the banlist existed.
@@manjackson2772 That is just not true in the slightest, card was good day 1
To that one guy:
There’s a reason we still call a bounce effect a compulse after all these years
Surprised no one talked about Neo Spacian Aqua Dolphin. The biggest glow up ever. No only for being a free summon from Connector, but eventually as a Handtrap removal.
Nah, i think there's one or two when i saw the thread. Joseph probably doesn't want this video to be full of handrip cards
@@zawarudogaming3961 I think Joseph had taken too much SAN damage at that point.
I'd ban aqua dolphin today if I could. Fuck that card. Fuck all hand rips actually. The game is already difficult enough going second. Hand rips shouldn't exist in this game.
@@jeanpitre5789 yeah that shit is just nonsense
- from, a Dark World player
@@jugemujugemu4690 I have nightmares of having my whole hand emptied turn 0😭
The people in the epilogue are either really massive trolls or, are genuinely children who weren't around for the majority of the games life span
Been alive since DM season 1.
Wasn't allowed yugioh cards. I had to keep mine hidden from my parents and curtainly wasn't aware of the meta. Only really got into competitive last like 4 years
The later for sure
@@gabrielpatsouris474 I feel you I one time got a harsh scolding as kid about how yugioh was the devil and I was going to hell if I keep playing by my grandma
@@nseekr Did you beat her in a duel and steal her soul?
@@nseekr This was what my godmother would say.
To this day, I do not understand how people get this impression from a children's card game.
Correction: White Dragon Wyverburster and Black Dragon Collapserpent were not in the Dragons Collide structure deck, they came later. They were good immediately, though, because Chaos Dragons was still a decent deck at the time and they were also level 4 extenders during the peak of the rank 4 toolbox era where any deck could be meta if it could put out rank 4s consistently
I use it for Quasar stuff in HAT format.
The fact that he misremembered it being in the structure just shows how literally every Chaos Dragon player put them in their deck the second they released lol they were everywhere and their buddy Eclipse Wyvern is still banned.
Heck, they were also used in one of the Shaddoll variants from DUEA; I played them to use Wyverburster as my Light for Construct.
@@Nocturne989 Man I love chaos dragons. I am going to go play some chaos dragons in MD. Too bad the Lil guys are banned...
I still miss my Eclipse Wyverns.
The Barrier Statues, released on the same set as Instant Fusion. Back then special summoning was actually special. All it takes is one good deck that can search them and summon them consistently in the modern game.
Throw a dart at a random card from Cyberdark Impact and odds are it belongs in the thread.
Or you hit some shit like Cyber Ogre
Vanity's Fiend and Vanity's Ruler were also there, but those people did try to break not too long after because they were beefy 2400+ atk monsters, unlike the barrier statues.
@jakesteel4916 CyberDarknImpact, for years memed as the worst set in the history of Yugioh, and now you look back at about half of it being awful and half being the most degenerate crap ever. It's GXs LOB
Think it's also due to 1 battle phase not being so valuable to lose and that decks back then consistently had enough main deck removal/monsters with >1000 atk
he said it! The thing!!
That ending bit was rough. So many people confusing "card *I* thought weren't good at the time" with how well they actually performed.
I'll submit Cold Wave, as a card that locks both players out of S/T for a turn was in an entirely different dimension of use in early Yugioh vs how impossibly busted it would be now. It had to be kicked to the forbidden list as soon as they seriously started increasing the game's complexity.
Cold wave was printed at a time that the best cards in the game were all spells and traps. The game being slower didn't make cold wave bad either as it allowed you to set up for two turn kills any time you won the board.
it locks you out of backrow too so unless you were so up on card advantage that you'd basically already won it wasn't that good. It was played don't get me wrong, but not amazing. Once it was easier to set up boards of powerful monsters they limited it and it was very strong in like. Edison.
I would like to see it unbanned just to see if it would be broken as people suggest. I believe it wouldn't see significant play.
@@nnnp634 Games too fast now. It's not searchable and even if you can't search and activate it because it has to be the first thing in Main Phase 1. IF you draw it turn 1 tho you are gonna win.
cold wave was never bad though, and was heavily used since release, it just wasnt an absolute shoe in it would be today, it required specific decks, but those decks preformed well throughout its entire existance
When I saw how quick it took to circle back to the original tweet I knew what was coming next
Dire was genuinely worried the thread wouldn't offer 8 minutes of content. She was right!
you KNOW this is comedy GOLD when it finishes early and the after credits clips are BETTER THAN THE VIDEO xD
had me in tears laughing. loved every second of it.
Next time, make a Twitter Thread about clueless opinions. I'm always complaining to Stevie "watch until the end, there's post credits" and that leech still skips it. Watch until the end, people.
Woah woah woah lets not get all revisionist history up in here, the reason why appointer wasn't played sooner wasn't just that people didn't realize the power of seeing and ripping a card out of your opponents hand, it was because mind crush was pretty objectively the better card.
Take a card from your opponents grip 90% of the time, see their hand, and in the worst case you still get the info without having to pay 2k or revealing your hand. Sure it went to grave instead of banish, but usually thats still good enough
Problem is that because of a rule change making it so you no longer have to verify hand or decks for effects like mind crush, it became unplayable.
Mind crush some times takes a card out of hand if you already know one or can just guess. Red lotus take out any card any time it is used.
Red lotus says: Yea you don't need that board breaker
That’s true, but appointer didn’t start seeing play for a long time after Mind Crush got nerfed into the ground. As far as I’m aware at least.
I’ve been playing since around 2012, but only actually got into more competitive Yugioh at the end of 2019. I started seeing Appointer everywhere during Adamancipator format, but it may have been played beforehand.
@@astercat49 It saw play in Zoodiac format as a sidedeck choice for going first. Mind Crush wasn't nerfed until 2018.
That's still the dumbest rule change they've made. It actively encourages people to cheat, it's wild.
_All_ if the takes at the end remind me that this is in-fact a children's card game, and basically all of them were like children who didn't know the game existed before 2012 lol
OCG might've had mystic mine banned faster than TCG, but that format also has this 2:05 card until 2020 for some reason
Tenpai Dragon had us "asking a friend" for Trident Dragion
This has the same energy as a similar one of these threads in the past about powerful cards that never saw meta play. People were listing off Trickstar. You know, the deck THAT WON WORLDS.
Respect for the fucking Airman ga Taosenai bit. Yet another Common Dire W.
Kevin tewart’s theme circa 2013-2018
Hey guys I missed the twitter thread but I just discovered this neat card called Nibiru the Primal Being and i think it might be good in the future
the epilogue was the best part of the video, we need more of that
That ending destroyed me, I haven't been an active yugioh player for some years but I never thought the day I'd see cards like Level eater or Dandylion considered as BAD????
THESE THINGS WERE ALWAYS BROKEN
If you started in like dino rabbit format you basically didn't see these cards, so it isn't a crazy mistake
I hate that I understood what the thumbnail was referencing
Ah, it's the Ultimate Slayer incident all over again
true!
Yugiboomer here - wyverburster and collapserpent were NOT in the chaos dragon structure deck, they came out as commons in one of the booster packs
Aqua dolphin was irrelevant for years, then a gouki player who teched it got seated in table 1
I need a full video of the outtakes, time to check the vods
Yu-Gi-Oh, where cards power up like an anime
I think the best example is Destiny Hero Dark Law, it came out in Legend Of Blue Eyes and sat unused for years, finally Konami lent it a hand with another card that was Terrible™ on release: Elemental Hero Stratos. Eventually those two became stong Tech options in Clownblade, leading to them being banned until this day
almost got me.
@@maxinesenior596 thx for this bc i was abt to start genuinely tweaking
When a twitter thread rolls credits with 2 minutes left on the video you KNOW you're in for a banger
He's right, downerd was what made me not top nationals in nekroz format. My opponent made Dante into it and put up secret village after tributing a floated scarm for majesty fiend. My tournament was OVER.
0:07 The reference 6:31 the montage of cards people thought were bad, but actually saw a lot of play
Good to know I was not the only person going fucking insane reading through that thread going no this was good you are just wrong
I lost every single brain cell I had during that outro I cannot imagine what it must have been live. I respect this man's iron will not to abandon the whole game.
I was watching this live and could not believe the sheer amount of “I started playing yugioh when master duel came out” ahh answers in this thread 💀
Alongside smoke grenade is Rod of Silence Kay’est. a purely defensive guardian equip that wasn’t a master of playground formats (like ceal or tryce), or an infinite loop enabler (like Elma). But then people made Vylon combos with it. And *then* it became Smoke Grenade’s partner in crime alongside Power Tool Braver Dragon.
Even now it’s a lynchpin in Elemental Hero Visas builds.
It actually see play on MD with Adamancipator Vernusylph build
Excuse me, Elemental Hero Visas? Can you hook me up with some of that?
@@santiviera it’s more of a joke really. In one of MBT’s dueltaining videos, someone performed a combo where he equipped Elemental Hero Wildheart with Rod of Silence. This made his stats exactly 1500/2100, which made him a valid fusion material for Vicious Astraloud.
@@enlongjones2394 Ah.
A recent one I’ve seen in the Duel Links space is Vengeful Servant. Upon equip, it does nothing until control of the monster is switched, then it does damage equal to half the original attack. Even in a gimmick strategy, that’s -2 or 3 for some burn damage that you can’t even pump up. Then Duel Links made it into an FTK.
Last time I was this early I was playing p.a.c.m.a.n.
the " are you fucking kidding me" outro was almost as long as the video!! ... " yeh, uuhhhhh... Dandylion bad mmmmkay!"
Watching the VoD with the full, unedited version is incredible. Watching Joseph's sanity degrade in real time is just so good.
I had that stream playing as background sound while I was working from home and half of the responses were terrible. I am so glad some of them made it into the post-credits bit.
I feel like we've done this before
6:30 I think Tour Guide was "bad" the first few months of its release because she was released in the Synchro era and 1 or 2 sets before XYZs summoning was a thing....afterwards she became an instant staple
It was used as a get sangan pass at the time and it was really really good since Set Ryko was like a play at that point in time
Yes it was overshadowed by when it become 1 card Leviair/Leviath/Wind Up Fort or infamously the Tewart incident but its always great
Black and white did not come to us in the structure. They were released in bosh, and tbf they were pretty good just didn't have a real home.
breakers of shadow was like 2016 though, p sure wyver and collapserpent were being played wayyyy earlker than that
SHADOW SPECTERS. THEY WERE PLAYED IN DOLLS THEY WERE ALWAYS GOOD
Shadow spectors and they were support for and heavly played in Chaos Dragons from day one. They stayed good as tech cards up till Dragon Link got them and wyvern hit.
Fallen of Albaz was a soft-brick who still had utility in hand post structure deck, to a way to ftk Dragon Link even when they ended on their own ftks, to the most central piece of Branded as a deck. Which is really funny when initially, his utility was a bad addition in Dogmtaika decks where you could use him to out some stuff by using his effect to fuse into Titaniklad on turn 5.
Similarly, Visas Starfrost wasn't really great up until Manadium came out. I remember some builds of Scareclaw running him to try to make Baronne and some very experimental Tear builds that tried to use him to also make Baronne, but he just wasn't cutting it in either.
The fact that those 2 lore boys started out as bad before getting their own dedicated deck really puts into perspective how good Diabellstar is as a card, and really puts a divine fear into my soul when I think about what her eventual dedicated deck will be like.
The difference is that Albaz and Visas had a bunch of cards that supported them, while Diabellestar is the support for a bunch of cards.
Albaz and Visas played their perfect role as a protagonist char even in the meta landscape of YGO, started out down and bad and slowly rising up through the power of friendship (meta support)
Wait he shrugged off Ancient Fairy Dragon? I thought that card was considered bad because who cares about popping fields, then fields got good.
AFD was always decent. The issue was at the time of release it was fighting for a spot with BRD.
@@TheForeverRanger Ah okay
It used to be OK, but only because outside black rose generic level 7 synchros were quite bad, then got powercrept because of more options, then field spells became busted and so did AFD.
@@N12015 AFD was also used more for the special summon than the Field Spell pop.
AFD was always a good card but it got better once better synchro climbing options became available and using field spells became more viable as a strategy in general
I lost it when you got to Compulsary
I was wondering why this video had two minutes left in it.
And then In The Hall of the Mountain King started playing.
The ending was better than the main video 😂
My mistake for metaverse guys, force of habit forgetting subterror cards exist
Red lotus with ariseheart and diabolos was insane and I would usually try and synchro into psyframe and Damm It was wild
I remember running Terraforming and Necrovalley as a package with Cat of Ill Omen to tutor either Last Turn, Wall of Revealing Light, or Solemn Judgement if I had both. Necro incidentally turning off certain strats was just bonus.
You should add more like bloopers like what you did at the end of this video in all your other twitter threads video it's really entertaining
I got one that probably was mentioned: prohibition. Though I think it’s only applicable if your name is Jeff Lenard
I actually started tweaking with the Cynet Mining take. Lady Debug was around A YEAR EARLIER and it's top 3 targets for it.
Surprised i didnt see summoner’s art here. Short printed common (i believe) that had the useless effect of adding a level five or higher normal monster and became a moderately pricey staple overnight when qli gave us a level 5 normal monster that also had an effect that powered their deck like a car engine
Ok after watching the epilogue IN FAIRNESS! Some of the cards mentioned like Gofu and Metaverse were playable but not "Not terrible" until something specific happened. for Gofu it was link monsters being invented and for Metaverse it was terraforming being banned and some of the most busted ass field spells being made.
Now the rest of that epilogue is fucking hilarous. Trunade bad? Compuls Bad? BARONNE BAD? Literal children.
I need a full video of Bad twitter takes, that end segment was amazing.
I got to experience how insane Smoke Bomb not too long ago when I found I had the tools to make a deck that loops it 3 times on master duel minus 2 URs. Handripping the opponent for 3 while still retaining 2 monster negates, a quick eff pop, and an end phase pop was just too broken.
How did Aqua Dolphin not show up? It's literally the poster boy for this kind of card, AND a hand rip card!
Also i guess the poster child is Solemn Judgement, which wasn't even bad on release but was considered bad more due to players' game philosophies.
Yes, that one is interesting since in modern play it is one of the most used cards in some of the earliest retro formats.
so it doesn't fit the prompt as it was never bad. We just evaluated it wrong.
I remember playing that alongside actual bad cards. I just liked Guardian Angel Joan. Still Joan backed by Solemn was funny. Bad monster nit so bad when it has protection.
ngl the outro was one of the best things on this channel for a long time
I love how there's more wrong answers than right answers.
unfortunately, the card i submitted (metaverse) was one of the ones in the end clips
thankfully, it was not *my* post that was in the end clips :3
I feel like Judgement is the poster child for this. It went from being only played in burn and stall strategies to a mandatory three of around 2007 and 2008 when cards like DAD, Crush Card, and Return from a Different Dimension could end games on the spot.
4:35 thats how Doug feels everytime he duels farfa's gusto deck.
I remember trading off my copy of soul charge back in middle school when it was still legal. I later found out that it was without a doubt the best spell card at the time. By the time I realized this, the friend I traded it to had transferred out so it was impossible for me to get it back before hitting the banlist
The outro is a perfect example of why democracy doesn't work in practice
Em... Rescue Cat? It was bad until Airbellum got released. XD
Usually the outro bit will go over 1 funny post, but this video had so many that the bit had to be extended 😂
Airman Ga Taosenai (cover?) sent me back to 2007, holy shit, I love it.
There's so many cards that fit this. But I've got to hand it to Soul Release. That card has been around since the dawn of time and the day I saw it being in the side and main as a Tactics Thrust target to selectively take the key pieces of your opponent's grave out of the game this year, was an interesting day indeed.
No mentioned about dustshooot I'm surprised and didn't figure it out until when I was in college when the first dw structure deck came out
What's the music used in the airblade Turbo segment
The air blade turbo edit killed me 😂. I’m dead in yugioh heaven now, hahahaha.
The entire Orcust Archetype was treated as pack filler on release despite having a wildly consistent combo in Link decks at the time, and the MOMENT Dingirsu and Climax got spoiled the secret rare Orcustrated Return jumped from a $2 bulk Secret Rare to a $15 must have.
In truth the deck was already insanely good, especially the boss monsters that worked wonders in Master Rule 4 due to hitting linked monsters (with aggressive Link Arrows on Orcustrion and Longirsu) with extremely strong removal and negate effects. Dark Warrior Link could very easily full combo when it had all the tools in that narrow window of Grinder Golem, Akashic Magician, Summon Sorc, Isolde, Neo Space Connector and Azathot being legal.
Can someone explain what people were playing AFD in before Field Spell control? I’m actually not familiar with that.
you know it's gonna be a good montage when hall of the mountain king starts playing
to be fair to metaverse, it was never really bad, but it was a worse terraforming until Mystic mine showed up
Damn, that compilation at the end. Either everyone was trolling OR they really are that young.
Alot of Gen-1 Normies released back in the 2000s, which would come up again because they had the right statline necessary to perform/break a combo, as a Garnet. Dark Witch being used as Brilliant Fusion fodder to then be added back to hand with Lazuli for you to tribute over your Seraphanite. This would out a Monarch Domain lock even through Rivalry of Warlords.
Wow, sure seems a lot of people don’t know the viability of older, powerful Yugioh cards! If only there was a series I could watch that brings through the sands of Yu-Gi-Oh’s history that could shed some light on those long forgotten cards.
Every once in a while, it's good to be reminded that the median MBT viewer is eligible to play in dragon duels
Wait, okay I wasn't there for GX was Dandylion actually good on release or didn't it have to wait until Synchros came out to break?
Shoutout to Dire for one of the best epilogues and uses of Hall of the Mountain king I've ever seen. Thanks Dire!
What is the song that plays on the air blade turbo meme
I swear that fucking robot dance at the start of every twitter thread video gives me a brain tumor.
This game predates me, and I only really got into playing a real format a little after TOSS/Gumblar. I know from trying out older formats that it takes a few games for the mindset to go from “how did anyone win any games with these cards” to “oh I see how this card can be useful.” So it makes since for so many posts to say that a card would have been bad because things we use it for/with now didn’t exist then. And then we try our best to post anyway.
Mushroom Man #2 went from a LittleKuriboh punchline to being Kashtira's out in the mirror.
That montage at the end of this video made me feel old man. The amount of people who only started playing post Link summoning is crazy in that twitter threat or they are just joking.
A few of those cards I could understand people getting wrong, but Dandy, Called by, and FUTURE FUSION is just insane.
Yo Planet Earthfall?! I fall asleep to this chill track. Props to Dire for picking some solid Kirby music.
Comments all talking about the epilogue while I'm still here just singing Air Man Ga Taosenai to myself 🙃
Were can I see the uncut vod
The epilogue could have been longer than the actual episode and we could have loved every second. 🤣🤣
this is literally one of my favorite things that happens in yugioh and even in other games. the fans just figure out how to break stuff so that it's too good. it's just always good for a laugh LOL!
4:32 dire with the top shelf deep cut