2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe is Electric When Wanted, Gas When Needed

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024

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  • @miccijrful
    @miccijrful Рік тому +8

    Have the base 4xe and loving it after 2000 miles. It moves! Fun to drive. Great tech.

  • @daves6813
    @daves6813 Рік тому +4

    Flip the phone around so the top is pointing towards the passenger side, seems to work better. Have had my '22 Trailhawk 4xe for about 2 months now and love it!

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel Рік тому +4

    Thanks Team Driven 🙏 HOPE EVERYONE HAS A FUN FILLED TUESDAY ✌️

  • @anydaynow01
    @anydaynow01 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for the metric measurements, like everyone else uses! One of the best things I did a while ago was to change all my tape measures and rulers for metric, home projects have never been easier!

  • @henrybrar
    @henrybrar Рік тому +7

    Just traded a Wrangler 4xe for a Limited Grand Cherokee 4xe, damn this thing is loaded with features especially coming from a Wrangler Sahara 4xe.
    Wrangler used to get 18-19 miles on a charge compared to 28-29 in Cherokee.
    As a family we love how quite this thing is on highways compared to Pilot we had.

    • @02hreblue30
      @02hreblue30 Рік тому +2

      too expensive.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому +1

      @@02hreblue30 You have to pay to play! I would take one of these over a comparable Model Y. Plus if you have a reasonable commute you will almost never have to buy fuel unless you go on a road trip.

    • @plemieux84
      @plemieux84 Рік тому

      @@02hreblue30 The lease is well under $400/mo on these. Lots of incentives.

    • @Snoopy20117
      @Snoopy20117 Рік тому +1

      @@plemieux84 Where can I lease for under $400 a month?

  • @lucastaneda2335
    @lucastaneda2335 Рік тому +1

    I love the smell of Tom Voelk in the morning.

  • @paulbernander7554
    @paulbernander7554 Рік тому +6

    I'm a longtime follower since the NY Times days, and I love your reviews! As for plug-in hybrids, I don't recall if you've reported this factoid, or I may have missed it: The plug-in operation uses up the majority but not all of the battery. Then when the battery on a plug-in shows 0 percent, there is still a couple of "hidden" kW for normal hybrid mode after the say 22 miles from all-electric. The vehicle doesn't rely on only the 4-banger, which would be under-powered, but is in hybrid mode just like a non-plug-in. So, for illustration, use up the 14 kW plug-in portion of the battery obtained from charging from the wall, then operate in typical hybrid mode with the hidden 2 kW of battery. One still has the electric motors and a portion of the battery to supplement the 4-banger for acceleration, etc. And the say 2 kW reserved for hybrid use is about the same size battery as any other typical non-plug-in hybrid, Correct? And I like the red-yellow-green light feature! Thanks for all you do!

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому

      It is also selectable like in a gen 2 Volt. So you can run hybrid on a road trip and save the electric mode for when you're in stop and go traffic and off highway city driving once you get to your destination.

    • @DrivenCarReviews
      @DrivenCarReviews  Рік тому

      This is true. Also, EVs seldom if ever use the full pack. It's why you'll hear 55kWh "usable" pack.

    • @afrika1982
      @afrika1982 Рік тому

      Hey Paul, so you are saying that even after my battery gets depleted I have access to the full 375hp?!? If yes, is there any official source for this or tests maybe? Thanks

    • @paulbernander7554
      @paulbernander7554 Рік тому +1

      ​@@afrika1982 I can't point you to a source. Here's my understanding. You have 1) a plug-in, 2) a Hybrid mode which is the default mode, 3) a 4-cylinder ICE (internal combustion engine), and 4) regenerative braking.
      There is in the media reference to about 15 “usable” kWh of the total 17.3 kWh, as Tom Voelk notes. The 2.3 difference is “hidden” and reserved for hybrid operation after the “usable” is depleted.
      As long as you have “usable” battery remaining, the battery will be used as the primary power source. That’s nice cheap power. The battery will be supplemented by the ICE when additional power is needed for acceleration, up highway grades, or for higher speeds. It may also be used to heat the coolant for the cabin heater, which is what happens in the winter in my non-plug-in Toyota Sienna hybrid.
      When the usable portion of the battery is depleted, showing

    • @afrika1982
      @afrika1982 Рік тому

      @@paulbernander7554 I just picked up my 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve roughly a week ago. So far my experience is that it is basically a $82thousand 4 cylinder engine car. Because in Auto selection ( Hybrid mode ) it uses the 25 mile worth of electricity in, well 25 mile, then that's it...( it uses electricity 90% of the time ) As far as I can tell there is no residual power to provide the promised 375hp. At this point I am like 99% convinced that this PHEV thing is a total ruse, a scam. I am forced to keep the car in Sport selection ( Hybrid mode ) in order to use the gas engine mostly, to preserve the charge to be able to drive a 375hp car.

  • @DevPack
    @DevPack Рік тому +2

    BMW did also did the axels through the oil pan in bmw X3 from 2013 on wards.

  • @madlucio70
    @madlucio70 Рік тому +3

    I hear you with the PHEV mentality! I plug mine in every night and run full EV when I am in the city. I can then leverage my Atkinson's cycle boxer to do my weekly long highway roundtrip of 500+ km's. I really love it :)

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому +1

      Not to mention the ICE portion so underutilized longevity just isn't an issue. Like my '17 Volt has over 110k km on it and the ICE is just barely broken in from the occasional road trip and battery health is still over 95%, and I didn't need to hoard 4x as many batteries as I needed to cure range anxiety like if I were to have bought a full BEV.

  • @johnborges5938
    @johnborges5938 Рік тому +4

    I'm increasingly convinced plug-in hybrids are the technology that will make EVs accessible for the majority of buyers. No question they're more complex, but complexity has been increasing fore ICE vehicles for over 50 years and that truly doesn't seem to deter buyers. I would be surprised if the PHEVs don't show improved longevity over their ICE-based equivalents (something Jeep should certainly be hoping for). And you can build 6-10 PHEVs with the same total battery capacity that would yield only 1 pure EV (which would be widely panned for it's uninspiring range, no doubt).
    As a Jeep owner I've been worried about the company's direction lately, but this model along with some of their recent announcements give me hope that they may find their way. Love the physical controls for key functions and the overall lack of features that look like they were borrowed from an old Jetson's episode.

    • @ShonTolliverMusic
      @ShonTolliverMusic Рік тому

      as the battery degrades, the 4 cylinder will have to pick up the slack and carry the batteries extra weight. This will wear the 4 cylinder turbo down even more. I just don't see the resale value of these keep up. And with them costing 70k, there'll need to be a robust 2ndary market available to keep these things viable. In short.. I dunno yogi.

  • @marcusbrutus1999
    @marcusbrutus1999 Рік тому +3

    Another good Tom review. I don't know if you get to read these comments Tom, but i was told with PHEV's it is okay to tip some gas preserver into the tank like you do a lawn mower. If your Volt only gets 2 tanks a year, that could be worth checking out. One request, I already pay UA-cam to have no commercials, but now we are getting sponsors like Carmigo in the middle of the car test. I get you need to earn, but can we have all the sponsor etc at the beginning, so we can have an uninterrupted review? Thanks mate.

    • @DrivenCarReviews
      @DrivenCarReviews  Рік тому +1

      Talking to petroleum experts, they say that gas in the tank for a year is perfectly fine but not to push it past that. No additives needed. And sorry, no can do on the Carmigo placement. Putting it first KILLs my SEO. I put chapter markers in the videos FYI. Thanks for your support.

  • @cbatiau2528
    @cbatiau2528 Рік тому +3

    just a comment on "real-world" mileage in a PHEV, from a seasoned owner of three PHEVs: PHEVs are meant to drive in all-electric mode at non-highway speeds chiefly (or at highway speeds for 2-5 miles at a time). Thus, "real-world" all-electric range for a PHEV for most dedicated PHEV owners is driving locally at < 45 mph. At > 45 mph, PHEV owners usually switch to "hybrid" mode, where the engine is used mostly. So I'd like to hear "real-world" mileage of this vehicle (and all PHEVs that you review) based on this practical definition. Thus, I have an XC60 T8 ER that gets 45-50 miles of real-world all-electric miles at < 45 mph ("around town"/urban driving), with EPA rated at 36 miles, and realistic highway 70-mph all-electric mileage being closer to 20 miles. ICE is better than electric motors for driving > 50 mph, full stop. But we are able to routinely go 1000-1200 miles in all-electric mode in our PHEVs when not doing long road trips, and that's key.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому

      Yeah I'm lucky to get 50 km running my '17 Volt on the freeway in winter before hybrid mode kicks on, even then it still gets great fuel economy. It's easily at least double that EV range running it in mostly city driving in the spring/fall.

  • @ktpinnacle
    @ktpinnacle Рік тому +3

    Unlike some other larger SUVs, I've found that Jeep is heavily discounting these. As a (very) longtime GM truck driver (two K-Blazers and a Yukon since 1981), the fact that I can get this much cheaper than a new Yukon/Tahoe with the Duramax may make me a Jeep driver in the near future. GM seems still have a tough time getting chips and they aren't building up to their market demands to encourage a competitive market. But their dealerships love it.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому +1

      Yep I'm overdue for a new track day car hauler, over 500k km and counting on the original drivetrain in the old '99 Silverado (Redline fluids ftw, well I did have to replace the cracked rocker arms, quick four hour job in the driveway)! Looks like I will have to wait a few more years before inventory gets to the point where I can get a decent price on a used late model truck. Probably going to go for a 3/4 ton diesel this time around.

    • @EveryPriceGougingStealership
      @EveryPriceGougingStealership Рік тому +1

      i'm not even close to discounting these, been selling them 40k to 60k over sticker to Karen McTwaten and Chad McLimpstick. not in Van Nuys we aren't.

  • @tonywong9105
    @tonywong9105 Рік тому +4

    I am a car enthusiast so I changed my primary vehicle every two to three years, but I love my latest Kia Sorento PHEV so much (probably due to its useful size, the great feelings of few gas stops while saving $$$) that I may hold it for more than three years which will be a new record for me haha. Job well done, Tom, please review the Mazda CX90 PHEV as soon as you can get a hold of it..... as it may be my next primary vehicle haha.

    • @paulbernander7554
      @paulbernander7554 Рік тому

      Hmmm.

    • @mowcowbell
      @mowcowbell Рік тому

      Thanks for the comment that has nothing to do with the subject of the video.

  • @jjames2162
    @jjames2162 Рік тому

    Really well done Tom. I enjoyed the personal touches. Share more of your story etc it’s bring a personal touch. Be well

  • @1Jbeats
    @1Jbeats Рік тому +2

    Tom, I absolutely love your videos. While watching this one with my son today he's wondering if you have talked to your doctor yet about your excessive toilet paper use, and how much do you spend each year on toilet paper? 😂

  • @smilingsatan
    @smilingsatan Рік тому

    At around 2:50, that voiceover was on point. 👍🏼

  • @LlyleHunter
    @LlyleHunter Рік тому

    The MacIntosh system is brilliant.

  • @jjakkad
    @jjakkad Рік тому +1

    Overpriced should def be in red light section, Tom have some more opinions about cars man, you are way too nice to these reviews.

  • @icare7151
    @icare7151 Рік тому +1

    Well done! Thank you.

  • @ned8249
    @ned8249 Рік тому

    It’s Driven Tuesday! 😊❤️

  • @pguy316
    @pguy316 Рік тому +4

    I always enjoy watching your videos. Have a coffee on me !

  • @Cedricmaker
    @Cedricmaker Рік тому

    I laugh at "that should get kids to daycare" every time I watch it 😂

  • @RyanBlockb5
    @RyanBlockb5 Рік тому +2

    As Jeep's first true plug in, I'm concerned about quality. It us a Stellantis product.

    • @jean-louislonne7033
      @jean-louislonne7033 Рік тому +1

      Stellantis = Jeep; Jeep=Stellantis; the fusion of Fiat and Peugeot; both family owned companies. Family owned companies in general do well in the long run; better than shareholder owned. Jeep is a very popular brand world wide. I'm in Serbia where the word for a Jeep like car is 'Jeep'; one can say, 'I just bought a Jeep Land Rover'. I'd worry more about it being overpriced.

  • @williamdrijver4141
    @williamdrijver4141 Рік тому +1

    The previous generation as a diesel was quite efficient. The new one looks excellent, inside and out. Low theoretical CO2 emission is a must in many EU countries. The plugin version is the only Grand Cherokee officially sold in Europe.

    • @DrivenCarReviews
      @DrivenCarReviews  Рік тому

      True, diesel is efficient. The fuel usually costs more though and keeping them environmentally friendly is a task.

  • @rapidfire3914
    @rapidfire3914 Рік тому

    Might as well watch cable with all the ads and a commercial in the video

  • @paulfazi
    @paulfazi Рік тому +2

    Stopped watching after the price tag - 75k?!?

  • @tommihelich2613
    @tommihelich2613 Рік тому

    Nice review Tom. Let’s see, $25K more than my loaded Prime. But far more luxurious and a better 4wd system. Quieter and more room. However, far worse electric range, bigger and slightly slower. I get 55 miles electric in the summer. 38 in the winter. And after credits mine cost 40K.

    • @mowcowbell
      @mowcowbell Рік тому

      How is a Prius Prime in the same category as a GC 4xe? At least in the GC you won't feel like you have to wear a sack over your head.

  • @drewyager4020
    @drewyager4020 7 місяців тому

    Does carmigo work for motorcycles?

  • @Smeagol0857
    @Smeagol0857 Рік тому

    Care to share what is the unique quality GoPro 7 has that the newer models don't have?

  • @Marius26-73
    @Marius26-73 Рік тому +2

    Eventually, first like!

  • @Hollyrock712
    @Hollyrock712 Рік тому

    How come you never do the Summit Reserve Tom ?

  • @tedneanderthal7373
    @tedneanderthal7373 Рік тому

    The price is more Chrysler than JEEP. Would Stellantis sell more Wagoneers if they were branded Chryslers (with better looking sheetmetal)?

  • @betsygiddins6553
    @betsygiddins6553 6 місяців тому

    We have a 2015 Grand Cherokee and prior to that a Jeep Liberty. Over the life of both vehicles we have had multiple oil leaks and air conditioning issues. Has Jeep somehow sorted out these problems with the 4xe?

  • @jamesfrancois1727
    @jamesfrancois1727 Рік тому

    Magnificent....

  • @MarioDallaRiva
    @MarioDallaRiva Рік тому

    Happy to see Martin didn’t shoot the underbelly while lying on his back! Phew

  • @kenc2257
    @kenc2257 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @stevengrey4528
    @stevengrey4528 Рік тому +2

    You mentioned fuel aging out - do you add stabilizer when you gas up, just in case?

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому +1

      I do with my Volt, but there is a feature with the GM PHEVs where it calculates the average fuel age and will run the engine until that average is brought back down (run the engine for a bit then add a splash of fresh fuel), this happens very infrequently though. I had fuel sitting in the tank for almost a year during the pandemic when this feature tripped on for me one day, so I went on a mini road trip to see a friend. On top of that I only fill with top tier 93 octane since it has better stabilizers in it even though my gen of Volt can run on anything (well except diesel and E85, an E85 option would have been nice for road trips).
      Then there is the maintenance mode where the ICE will idle for a few minutes to circulate oil and coolant to keep the seals fresh. This happens after a couple months of not running it. The gen 2 Voltec technology was actually the most advanced tech GM put in a car until they started developing the hybrid system for the C8 Corvette.

    • @DrivenCarReviews
      @DrivenCarReviews  Рік тому +1

      Nope. I've been assured by petroleum experts that it's not needed if it's 9-12 months.

    • @stevengrey4528
      @stevengrey4528 Рік тому

      @@anydaynow01 Thanks for the detailed response - helpful info!

    • @stevengrey4528
      @stevengrey4528 Рік тому

      @@DrivenCarReviews Thanks for responding Tom. I've been wary because I've seen the problems that stale fuel can inflict on motorcycle engines - and I'm talking about gas that is less than a year old.

    • @jean-louislonne7033
      @jean-louislonne7033 Рік тому +1

      @@stevengrey4528 I've had carburettor gum up with old gas; never with electronic systems.

  • @michaelmathers6361
    @michaelmathers6361 Рік тому

    does this qualify as a 'heavy car'?

  • @user-cj7dv2kc6d
    @user-cj7dv2kc6d Рік тому

    Course there's always an assumption that people have a space to charge the vehicle. Lots of people don't have garages or ability to run electricity.

    • @DrivenCarReviews
      @DrivenCarReviews  Рік тому

      Over half of people in the US have easy access to AC power where they park for the night. So there's that. Buy the car that works for you.

  • @mikeg5839
    @mikeg5839 Рік тому

    Steer clear of all electric. Hybrid / plugin and gas only

  • @jazzjokesjalopies
    @jazzjokesjalopies Рік тому

    Do any brands track gas miles vs. total miles, to tell us when the engine really needs service?

    • @DrivenCarReviews
      @DrivenCarReviews  Рік тому +1

      Pretty sure most of not all PHEVs do that. My two both have engine oil life trackers. With synthetic, it's been 2 year intervals or so for ours.

  • @joemartino6976
    @joemartino6976 Рік тому

    Let' hope Jeep is not attempting to mimic Range Rover in the complexity/unreliability department. That driveshaft running through the oil pan is a tip-off.

  • @LlyleHunter
    @LlyleHunter Рік тому

    I’ve seen electricity in the form of lightning and it’s orange. The accents on electric vehicles should be orange.

  • @g600f700
    @g600f700 Рік тому

    thanks for the review, it looks very complicated, double the parts. If some engine lights turn on the dashboard, it's going to cost a lot to repair after warranty expires. hope they can make the full EV version asap.

  • @moehio
    @moehio Рік тому +3

    Over 75k.... sigh.....

  • @jeepcam84
    @jeepcam84 Рік тому

    Too bad they don’t have the three row seats

  • @jenesuispasbavard
    @jenesuispasbavard Рік тому

    Wait 23mpg is efficient?

    • @M1911jln
      @M1911jln Рік тому

      Compared to my 14.5 mpg Land Cruiser? Yes, 23 mpg is efficient.

  • @robertpettigrew3862
    @robertpettigrew3862 Рік тому +2

    Only $75k…will not waste my time watching the rest of review

    • @pbentsonable
      @pbentsonable Рік тому +1

      There is less expensive trims. He was give the top trim as a press car.

    • @02hreblue30
      @02hreblue30 Рік тому +1

      pricing themselves out of legitimacy

    • @chrispnw2547
      @chrispnw2547 Рік тому +1

      With the inflation we have experienced over the last 3-4 years, the perceived value of my home has gone up 😊 along with my home insurance, property taxes , and maintenance costs 😭. A $75K depreciating asset (with a large payment, taxes, high insurance) is no longer a priority for me. My 16 year old paid-for BMW with 33K is a constant reminder how good life can be without dealing with a new car and the attendant worries (damage, theft, etc.).
      All the best to all who can rationalize this expense.

    • @jean-louislonne7033
      @jean-louislonne7033 Рік тому

      @@chrispnw2547 at 73, I've had a few new cars, all leased by my company; never bought one myself; will never understand the value of new car smell; a good used car, knowing some other person has wasted a few thousand for that smell makes me like my used car even more.

  • @ammasihi
    @ammasihi Рік тому

    👍

  • @RE2PECT
    @RE2PECT Рік тому

    Should have 100 miles not 25 miles for electric… too little

  • @M1911jln
    @M1911jln Рік тому

    $75k for a Grand Cherokee? No thank you.

  • @michaelnicola5210
    @michaelnicola5210 Рік тому

    Not even.

  • @Toro-fz9il
    @Toro-fz9il Рік тому

    Voelck is anti-Tesla. This high-priced, gas guzzling beast id a joke. 25 electric miles. Please. And no fast chargers. Quickest, more like least slow. Any Tesla blows by it with the accelerator pedal lightly tapped.

    • @DrivenCarReviews
      @DrivenCarReviews  Рік тому

      Um, this is a PHEV and isn't comparable to any Tesla. So there's that. And off-road, the Jeep is far more capable. Pick the vehicle that's right for you.

  • @BBlackmen
    @BBlackmen Рік тому

    The Jeep Grand Cherokee is also my guilty pleasure as well I have always always loved that SUV is always been my favorite even though I drive a Subaru and I know that the Jeep Grand Cherokee is played with reliability issues it is absolutely gorgeous and I love the summit Reserve it's just up dripping in sauce

  • @evflyguy
    @evflyguy Рік тому +1

    The scratches on that piano black... 😬

  • @EveryPriceGougingStealership

    Prepare for the Mopar markup and the Chad Joneses that will pay double to get one.
    We've been hiding these at a parking lot in Van Nuys and pretending we don't have stock. makes our lot looks empty, and the Mr/Ms Insecurity believes it. Can't believe how much extra we're making on markup. Usually an extra 40k-60k.