The Plug-In Jeep Grand Cherokee Promises Efficiency, Does It Deliver? | 2022 Grand Cherokee 4xe
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- In case you're wondering, it's "Four-By-Eee", you know, like four-by-four? Whatever you want to call, it'll give you around 25 miles of electric range and middling fuel economy after the battery has been depleted. Assuming you're the average American driver and you plug it in every day, the combination will consume less gasoline and extend your range, but as with all PHEVs, fail to plug it in and you might spend more on gas than just going with the base engine.
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When I only have time to watch 1 review this is the reviewer I choose
Alex provides best detailed/technical reviews 👍
One thing to emphasize is that the top trims have a super nice and beautiful interior. The lower trims (of the regular GC/GC L at least) have rental car interiors. It’s kind of a night and day difference.
There is also a huge price difference so its fine that the base models have cheaper interiors.
Holy crap, the thumbnail for this video was hilarious Alex. Great job, as always. 🤣
I missed that, thanks! 😋
Yeehaw!
Man you guys are cranking out the content this week 👍
All depends on what you need the vehicle for. I live in the country and where the winters are horrible. I have driven and owned lots of different vehicles. The grand Cherokee has been the best in the snow never as of yet been stuck
Same here, 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk has been a dream. I adapted Openpilot for truly hands-free autopilot on long boring roads, too, back in 2018, Openpilot has been great for over 4 years.
PHEV is a great step forward. It’s time for even better incentives to make these
its a step, but worst of both worlds.
They make sense as commuter vehicles, but something this huge is not very logical for commuting unless you only have one vehicle that you need to do evergthing. Something like the Prius Prime makes a lot more sense as a PHEV.
Allow free markets to decide what consumers want. Government incentives always distort markets and transfer wealth for EVs from taxpayers to buyers (usually upper class who can actually afford EVs these days).
All the piano black plastic kills it for me!
I just ordered a 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve 4xe. I think it has the best mix of features for a premium mid-sized off road capable US made SUV, plug-in or not.
I ordered (as a lease) the Summit (High Altitude Package) yesterday to get it in under 80k to ensure I get the gov $7500 tax credit. 👍🏿
Good job with the :) Brian is becoming more natural in front of the camera. Always loved Alex's review: having 2 voices enhances the reviews.
Alex “wrangling” that Jeep is the best! 😆
The drive train makes a lot of sense to me. Very economical & green for around town. No range anxiety for long trips, especially to wilderness. XRoad needs low-range torque: not huge HP # and the electric engines deliver that. It would be more choice, except I would never raise the hood to showoff the tiny I4 in the huge engine bay.
The 4Xe is a great option if you are in a warm or moderate climate. There are a lot of reported problems with the power plant in cold climates. I was going to buy a GC with the 4Xe until I started hearing about all of the problems, and beings that I am in Alaska I can not take the chance.
Also, a not for those that want to buy a 23 with a Hemi. Even though you can build them on the website, you can not order a GC with a V8 any more!! Only the Waganeer and trucks.
the 23mpg is horrible. especially when it comes from a 4 cylinder hybrid mode.
Great review. I like your new Robin, Batman!
LOVE the thumbnail
I am really enjoying the two of you working together like this. Great review! Even though this will probably be the most expensive engine option (or will the hurricane ever be an option in the GC(L)) I think the 4XE would be the one I would probably want. Hopefully, it makes its way to the GCL by the time I'm ready to buy. Also, every week the MSRP on the jeep build site goes up by several hundred dollars. Before long the X5 might become the value option when compared to the GC.
Great camera angles on the off-roading part.
The repair costs of the BMW will kill you unless you know a good mechanic. That doesn't work at a dealership.
Love the thumbnail Alex! Good to see your kiddo with you as well
thank goodness you let him not tuck his shirt in
Great job filming and narrating the action!
What surprises me is that the Range Rover Sport Plug-In Hybrid is only Half a Second Faster to 60Mph then the Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe (5.5 seconds vs 6).
Nice to see a taste of the future and about time the big 3 tackle EV tech and get their act together to provide alternatives to gas guzzling full size SUVs, we are sorely lacking in options aside from Teslas and Rivians.
Wait for EV9.
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I hope the ho 6 cyl is put in the gc that will be my choice,you can keep that ev crap!!
Do you know if you’ll be able to get the tow package on the base 4*E Grand Cherokee? The online configurator makes it seem like you have to bump up to the Trailhawk or above to get it, yet they say all the 4*E trims are rated to tow 6,000 pounds.
rotary gear selector is a big thumbs down,
Needs at least 50 miles of ev range, not interested 👎. Please some manufacturer bring out a suv and/or pickup phev with at LEAST 50 epa ev miles
Expecially for 70G+
In countries with subsidies such plugins are relatively popular. If it had a diesel you'd have to pay 35,000 euros extra in CO2 tax here in The Netherlands. Because the plugin theoretically is very frugal it has a low CO2 tax of just 4,500 euros.
Volvo XC60/90 Phev? Let’s be honest, most will not be used for serious off road use.
I think I’d stick with the V6 for the improved reliability, lower cost, and negligible difference in fuel efficiency. I don’t do a lot of city driving so the electrification wouldn’t affect me too much.
I drive all highway (73mph-77mph) in my wrangler 4xe. 44 miles round trip. I charge at home over night (Level 1 120V) I am very fortunate to have chargers at work (Level 2 240V) when I get off work I have a full battery.
Also since I'm plugged into 240v charger at work. I can schedule the AC to come on about 20 minuets or so before I get off work to come to a cooled interior. I still haven't burned any gas. That's a life saver here in Phoenix. I have driven about 4000 miles and burned no gas. I have been very diligent to stay in EV mode as much as possible, as to not pay for gas as long as possible. The last time I got gas. it was under $3.00 a gallon.
Yeah, hybrids don't do much for Highway mileage, in fact all the extra weight probably works against you.
@@onlyajeep97 Being able to run the AC with the engine turned off is awesome for dog owners.
@@jeffk464 definitely
keep the kid.... he makes information more fun
I prefer the rear end of the two row. The three row look very generic. I saw the two row on the highway and had to jump behind it to get a closer look. That bar for some reason looks more upscale to me
Yes, please review the 2023 Range Rover Sport PHEV, with 32 kWh battery and Level 3 DC Fast Charging capability.
800 pounds more for a range of 25 miles? Ridiculous. Americans are as biased about the Jeep as British are about the Land Rover.
Fantastic review as always, didn't know this even existed before your vid. That thumbnail is also hilarious!!
What time and effort went into that thumbnail pic...was well worth it. Lol..excellent
Do we know if the Jeep grand cherokee L is getting this power train? The cherokee's trunk is big, but I don't think it would fit my hockey bag length-wise. 74k is way too rich for a jeep for me. And even at $4 gas, this is a hard pass for me.
Beautiful SUV. Now THIS is a real luxury suv.
Not sure I would trust Stellantis to develop a drivetrain this complex.
On the bright side, most of it is ZF, so identical to BMW's PHEVs
So I love everything that jeep does the only thing I will say is the fact that the screen size inside of the vehicles is way too small this is a Grand Cherokee the Grand Cherokee should have no less than 12 inch display
"For final scores, hit the subscribe button, coming soon!"
Never happens.
The black bar looks better, but, judging by your T&E model, its fit and finish could be better.
Gloss black everywhere ruined the new JGC for me. I absolutely hate it. Picked up a ‘22 WK instead.
BMW also used "electric avenue" for their iX commercial 🙂
The only question that matters is how well does the drivetrain handle water and mud it's a jeep they do a lot more than crawl around moab
When keeping in mind that this version of the Summit Reserve would be cheaper than the V6 when factoring in the tax credit, it isn't that terrible of a buy.
How is it 25mpg in electric mode ? It goes about 30 miles in eclectic mode -which cost 7$ to charge at the DCfast charger so that’s paying 7$ for the ,,1 gallon “ of electricity it consumes to go that distance!
You should buy hybrid for tax credit
Hmm should have Cleaned up the Jeep Exterior b4 video taping to show off the Jeep
0:40 "25 mpg of full electric range"
If your commute is short that could be very helpful.
Yeah. I caught that too. Gallon of what? Haha
This also loosely competes with the hyundai santa fe plugin hybrid.
Wtf is "25 miles per gallon of pure electric range"??
Too much complexity, too expensive for poor fuel economy. Not very practical or (likely) reliable.
I do like the DUO review but is that Alex son he looks like it
I'm a bit late to this plugin world, so I'd really appreciate it if anyone would educate me on this.
First, what does it mean with "electric only range" of 25 miles? With hybrid vehicles, isn't the electric range blended with the gasoline range to get overall mpg?
Or does it mean you choose to drive on electric mode on battery only for 25 miles? Once the battery runs out, you'll use gasoline.
For me, 25 miles range is nothing. It's my one way commute. That means the battery will be out by the time I reach my destination?
Second, related to first question, if you can choose to drive exclusively on electric only for 25 miles and then the battery runs out, I thought hybrid cars self charge during the drive?
Or is it only applicable with regular hybrid and it's different with plugin?
I'm really confused
Wanting to get a version if hybrid, but should I get the regular or plugin hybrid?
I've always wanted to learn how to do that wit a rope lol cowboy stuff 😂
Thanks Good Stuff .
I think the 2.0T needs to become the standard engine in the grand cherokee, but I'm gonna assume that will come with the new inline 6 3.0T, or maybe they're waiting until they can make the grand cherokee a standard 2.0T hybrid with an optional PHEV. I am going to take a shot in the dark and say the 3.0T phev will replace the trackhawk with a 500hp gas engine and a 135hp electric motor. But the 400hp version with a phev will probably my favorite 4xe.
Also the overland is honestly the best model. It gets you every offroad goodie from the trailhawk (except for the swaybar disconnect sadly) and all the luxury features of the summit, just not the luxury trim. It really is what makes the GC stand out compared to the competition. Now if you're on a budget then the trailhawk makes more sense, and a base model (V6) makes for an awesome compact and relatively cheap tow rig. This is why the grand cherokee is simply my favorite vehicle
its said the 2.0T is supposed to replace the V6 as the standard motor of many vehicles.
@@TomazHilton well the 3.0T is replacing both the 5.7 and 6.4 hemi, and the 2.0t should replace literally everything with a V6. Just standardize the lineup the same way the Europeans did
Yeah, I'm looking at one of these specifically because of its ability to tow. Not a common feature in the crossover world. Also its kind of cool that its actually somewhat capable of going offroad. Its like halfway in-between a crossover and a 4runner. I heard about the new inline 6 chrysler/fiat is coming out with. Not sure it would fit in these Grand Cherokees though, they tend to be a really long engine. Depends if they designed it with the new engine in mind or not. The 3.0T would probably be overkill for a midsize SUV but some people like that I guess.
@@jeffk464 the 3.0t is replacing the 5.7 and 6.4 hemi across the board. It was designed to fit in all the engine bays that matter. The grand cherokee this gen had its hood lengthened as well
Nice review, enjoyed the on the scene off roading reporting. For one mpg more.... Nope!
It's 75k base up here in Canada. Awful lot of money for a 2 liter 4 cylinder. 60k will get you a wrangler sahara 4xe, not the same class of vehicle I know, but seems like a better bang for the buck to me.
It should be noted there are plenty of vehicles with 2.0L turbos with price tags over $75K...
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Indeed, not sure if I'm willing to put my hard earned dollars towards one though. I think I'd rather the hurricane straight 6 for similar money or less, in a ram 1500, and just dump more fuel in. Just my personal opinion, thanks Alex.
Nice ride.
The back tail light should have went straight across I don't know what jeep was thinking with that that is the only flaw that I can see
"you probably can't see this bar, but I don't like it, let me know what you think" are you kidding me??
Something is definitely wrong when they are patting themselves on the back for getting only 23mpg. Hybrids and plug ins are a complete joke in the US.
The car will have major issues at 45k. I ve already seen multiple 4xe wrangler in the dealership shop.
Love how they all love new cars. Lol
lol that thumbnail
Always hate when I click on an Alex video and there’s someone else. I’m here for alex
23:50 am I the only one hearing some inverter noise in the background?
So, PHEV or no PHEV, how does this compare to the Land Rover Defender?
This should be in the L version as well!
I bet it will be soon. They've just introduced the L version, so give them time.
Why does it say 57 mpg on their site?
Any word on if this type of drivetrain will be coming to Rams full size trucks?
Dash controls seem cramped together
Does it have folding side mirrors, for my garage
The woodgrain interior trim is hideous..like a 70’s throwback lol 😂
So, for anybody out there that has one what is the realistic range if your tank is full of gas and your battery is full of charge how far can you drive also what is the average mpg real life thanks.
The combined mpg is disappointing. Stellantis or any of its predecessors have never been known for reliability.
Are the back wheels not centered?
Looks promising, but quite expensive, it seems.
I am looking forward to the new hurricane engine option...
High output in the Srt ~510 hp and 500 ft/lbs
standard output with ~420 hp and 450ish ft/lbs. From a twin-turbo 3.0L inline 6. Seems like it will be an excellent replacement for the old but tried and true 5.7L V8. Jeeps says the high output is supposed to it a couple of MPGs more than the v8 (which v8 they don't say). But we will see. I do worry about the power vs. displacement, but it should be better than the complexities of the hybrid system., for which you only get 22-24mpg anyways with regular driving, so if the new engine can get 20ish mpg seems like a much better option. with Jeep/FCA/Stellantis (terrible name) you have to pick your poison in terms of questionable reliability, unfortunately.
🤔 was that a latter chassie ? so this thing is body on frame ? if so that's pretty shocking 😮
25MPG electric range. What is that? 😅
It's not great, but the average US driver commutes about 30 miles each day. So it's enough to greatly reduce the fuel used, still fit into the platform, and not require a hugely expensive battery pack. It is also suitable for use in cities in Europe which are requiring EV use within the city.
That said, the hybrid fuel economy they achieved is not impressive.
@@M1911jln a range is in miles not mpg ;-)
Save a horse,ride a hybrid?? OK COWBOY 🤠 😉
Correction: at the beginning Brian said “25 mpg full electric” should be the same without “mpg”
I thought he said "25 miles pure electric".
And none of the Range Rover, Grand Cherokee, Aviator is a good buy to keep it option, yeah?
Agreed. This class will all depreciate rapidly. They're seriously overpriced. Buy one if you need it, enjoy it, and keep it a long time until it's worth nothing.
Promise is the key word. Most people do not plug in PHEVs so efficiency suffers.
I hear people claim that, but I doubt it's true. Why would anyone buy one unless they were going to plug it in? The cheaper models would make more sense unless you do plug it in.
@@markmiller3279 T&E research proves it. I also have a neighbor who never plugs in. People are stupid. Such is life.
It depends on the region as well, I don’t believe this is the case in most of the US because even with tax credits there’s often still a price premium comparing PHEVs to HEVs or conventional ICE vehicles. I’ve read that this is a problem in some European countries where PHEVs have been very heavily subsidized, the US subsidies have not been as generous/useful to many car buyers. I personally have religiously plugged in the 2 PHEVs I’ve owned and every PHEV owner I know personally charges their car regularly.
The exception to this would likely be areas with single occupant HOV lane access for PHEVs like CA, I’ve seen a few people in PHEV forums who say they never plug in and only bought the car for the HOV stickers.
@@MylesV since CA PHEV sales make up the majority of US sales (and a lot of people in CA buy them for HOV stickers and CA rebates as well as federal credits ), then this a big problem and the European study is very relevant for the USA.
So expensive and complicated to maintain and repair these plug in hybrid cars. Personally, I'd only get a full-electric or full gas car. If I had to get a hybrid, it'd be a toyota.
If you are gonna keep it forever a Toyota makes sense, but if you change cars every 3-4 years why not buy the Jeep, it'd still be under warranty.
Destination charge.?
I thought it was made in America.?
I think Jeep should have offered it on the lower trims. At this price, I would rather have a BMW
Can't beat a Jeep if you want off road capability.
Thanks for the thorough review, as usual! The $7500 tax credit seems to be the only reason to buy this over the ICE models. I would love to buy a GC but after seeing some glitches in the infotainment system in some reviews I am hesitant. I always loved the styling of the GC.
LMAO 🤣 🤣. Such a silly dump thumbnail 🤣 😂
Love the move from Jeep. Although, with a ZF motor, I'll give it a few years for them to iron out the bugs :) Great video!
What's with that dinky engine cover? Looks like something for a lawnmower.
I don't see the value in this vehicle. Unless you have a very short commute it's really an indulgence. A member of my family bought the Rav4 plugin hybrid. In a year they've bought two tanks of gas...that's it. It gets over 40 miles on a charge. I'm amazed. EV's aren't there yet and these vehicles are ridiculous.
I drove the v6 version. Perfectly competent but lacked character. After 25 years of SUV I bought a pickup. Guess I needed a change.
Are there anyone who’s excited about an FCA product?
By the sales, plenty. It is the best selling mid-size SUV in America and about the only one with 2022 sales on the rise
Nice thumbnail
That was a great click bait photo! Yeee ha!
22.4 mpg in hybrid mode? So all that money you pay for the plug-in feature is strictly for city driving, and for that you would buy a vehicle whose mission in life is luxurious offroading? And of course this virtue-signaling toy for the rich will be tax-subsidized by the working stiffs. Got it.
Pretty much! With all that in mind will likely be mostly sold and bought in Commiefornia by snowflakes.
90% of travel is city travel.
@@sammydavis991 If you live in New York or Silicon Valley, maybe. This is (ostensibly) an offroading SUV, not a mall crawler, but I know (and indicated that in OP) it will be mostly bought by people for virtue signaling while doing their Starbucks runs, and they will never be taken off the paved road. And -- Why TH should people subsidize $75K mall crawlers?
I'm currently averaging 22.7 with the 5.7 Hemi (granted i do limited city driving) but this is not good enough for the hybrid
What about the Jeep Commander?
It’d be interesting to see data on what percentage of Jeep drivers would actually plug the car in regularly, rather than just get in and go. Cool car, but if they’re not plugging in, then it’s just a waste of batteries.
I’ve seen lots of Wrangler 4Xe vehicles charging at stations around me recently. Looking at the fuel economy ratings there isn’t much of a point in buying the 4XE option unless the intention is to plug it in so I’m sure most owners will.
Can't afford to save that much gas.