Massive-engined Can-Am monsters take over Goodwood
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2024
- Just like their engines, the anticipation for the Can-Am demo at the 81st Members' Meeting presented by Audrain Motorsport was huge. When they finally hit the Goodwood Motor Circuit, they did not disappoint. With a field of Shadow, McLaren and Porsche, amongst others, and engines up to a whopping 11-litres, the noise was always going to biblical.
We had Jackie Oliver in his title-winning 1974 Shadow DN4 driving alongside Tom Kristensen in the Shadow DN4B. We had the flame-spitting Ford Open Sports prepared by Alan Mann Racing and these weren't even the most eye-catching.
That orange Mk1 Shadow even has a radiator in that massive wing.
What a series. What a time. What a demo. If you managed to see them in person, you'll understand why we were so excited for this. If you didn't manage to see it, here is the full Sunday Can-Am for you all. Sit back and enjoy.
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I couldn't hear the engines over the non-stop prattle of the two commentators 🤷
@@Sajuuk👍👍👍
The staggered trumpets on the injection stack are actually to equalize intake runner length. Big Block Chevrolets have 2 long intake runners and 2 short intake runners per head.
I would rather hear the cars and not hear these two talk nonstop.
Exactly they doing too much
Lol
8:35
Then go down there
It's a common youtube-disease by the name of logo-diarrhea!
props to those who keep these amazing machines running!
Bring back CanAm and I’ll start watching racing again
Ditto
What do you call this? An egg and spoon race?
@@thethirdman225 parading around Goodwood isn’t a race is it, smartass? Take your egg and your spoon and GTFO 👉🏻
@@thethirdman225 I call it a parade, not a race. And these are 50 year old cars. Imagine what modern day CanAm-like race cars could be. 🤗
@@Gardner0871public I think if you saw what modern technology had to offer you may not like it.
How all of that torque didn’t spin the planet is beyond me
During the hay days the engines were all about 494 cubic inches. With the short wheel base they all had and the torque available then they were a handfull. Now with another 3 liters od displacement they must be a real handfull.
The first year of the turbocharged Porsche 917 30K cars I was a corner marshal on turn 1 at the Edmonton International Speedway. Team Penske and Donohue had the 5.4l engines first. Jody Scheckter practiced Friday and Saturday using a 5.0l engine. Saturday evening the Porsche mechanics were switching out engines for the race. Spoke in German but swore in English. Sunday morning they came out for practice and warmup and Jody had a bit of trouble keeping it straight exiting Corner 1. With the increased displacement and the extra torque, he had to feel out where he could get into the throttle. If I remember right he ended up in the wheat field for a bit. About all you could see was the roll bar and wheat getting tossed into the air.
That is why the race course is a loop!
The cars remained stationary, the earth moved instead.
We have to keep them going to make sure the Earth keeps turning!
Humans are Fünny Creatures! 👽
🛸 is way better!
Lets race! 🏁
Golden era. When the lack of rules puts the engineering to an unlimited level. Love these body lines, so sexy.
By the time these Shadows were running the series was not unlimited. In fact it hadn't been unlimited for several seasons.
I grew up in the 60s with American V8 musclecars. The scream of a 19000 rpm F1 car from their glory years is pretty cool, but nothing sounds better to my old ears than a big block Chevy V8 in a CanAm car.
Right on brother! 😁
You should hear the V12s and BRM V8s from the 1960s F1 cars. Wonderful sounds
I remember the sound of the supercharged Lancia 037 and turbocharged Audi Quattro Sport in the forest in the early 1980s. Each has it's own appeal.
Ford and Dodge were no different for sound and power .... Remember Ford is international in the racing world .... Chevy and Dodge stayed in their own backyards..............
F1 of the front engine era where really cool, especially those from the late 1930s, the Mercedes w125 had a 6 liter supercharged engine
Great cars, great sounds. Would be really nice to see the infamous Chaparral 2J "sucker" car. Jim Hall was an innovative genius.
Absolutely!!!! You cant speak of CanAm without talking about Jim
While the sound is terrific it's the guttural roar that you FEEL that makes these puppies stand out. You have to feel them in person.
They really do pound the ground
My Dad took an 11 yr. Old me to Laguna Seca to see these things raced in anger.
71'or 72.
Ah...
"Addiction Day."
Mine was May 16, 1966 at Indianapolis.
I was there than I was a Junor in high school in 72 and I just got my driver license. Those were the days I wish I could relive those times again.
I drove my friends Moms station wagon full of my two brothers and a few others to Riverside. First in 67 and then again in 68. I was just 16 the first go. Thank you Mrs. Barett for trusting me with your car. If she only knew what we got up to. I would have loved to have seen them at Laguna Seca which is one of my favorite tracks in America.
Saw Mark Donahue in the Porsche at Mid-Ohio in 1973. The sounds of this race are indescribable, the memory moreso.
The closest thing to “no rules” racing we ever had. It spurred incredible innovation and laid the groundwork for many technologies later made common in F1 and many other categories.
F1 and Can Am were my motor racing favorites and the Indy 500 a distant third. Mark Donahue, Peter Revson, McLaren and Porsche and the upstart Shadow effort were amazing. Thanks for sharing.
I am a big Jim Hall/Chaparral fan....those guys were engineering geniuses
@@JK-js2td Jim Hall, Carroll Shelby and Smokey Yunick made racing interesting.
Those were my fondest days of racing.
The 50th anniversary of Can-Am celebration at Road America a few years back where they had FIFTY of these very monsters piling down into T5 at RA during the Sunday race was amazing. The sound pounded you in the chest and filled your skull with sound of "Merica!!!!
Road Atlanta is my home track...im sure the CanAm cars did not disappoint
Do you realize what Can-Am stands for? It's short for Canadian American. Which is funny because Canada is in North America as well. Anyway, just a reminder as to what car was the fastest. It was a air cooled Porsche 917 not a Chev based aftermarket block and head and crank ect Murican car.
Imagine how wild CAN-AM would be with modern developments and powerplants? Wild.
Not the point at all.
Looks like DEI has finally reached the field of commentating
can-am was insane. one of greatest series ever.
Truly a no-holds barred experience, salute to the folks who preserved and being able to drive them considering the amount of power in such a lightweight chassis from the 60-70s.
I recall being at the FOS in either 2003, or 2005, and seeing a Cam Am car place very high in the timed shootout. As I recall, it had a 9.7 litre Chevy V8 with Hilborn mechanical fuel injection & the crossing over intake trumpets. I think it was around 900bhp.
I was at the 1973 Mosport Can-Am season opener. Penske showed up with the 917-30 driven by Donohue, and Vasek Polak showed up with a 917-10 driven by Scheckter. There were about 5-6 other privately entered 917-10s driven by well known drivers, but Donohue and Scheckter were the class of the field and were on the front row.
At the start, Donohue and Scheckter just up and disappeared. It was fantastic to watch. Unfortunately, they were so much faster than everyone else that they caught a backmarker during the 4th lap (of a 2.5 mile course). There was a collision and Donohue got the worst of it, but still made it back to the pits and then continue on. It was among my favourite memories despite my beloved McLarens not being there anymore.
The shame was , Porsche ending the Can Am era . Not blaming them , they just followed the rules , which were almost non existent . If only turbo had been banned , the rest of it coud have gone on for a long time . The sound of thunderous atmo V8s was a glory to behold .
amen
Donahue could be considered the best driver to have ever lived
@@JK-js2td
Donohue was a great driver, but he didn't have the record of Andretti or Graham Hill.
@@kyle381000 idc if he didnt have the records of Hill or Andretti...he was an engineer....extremely smart...and not only could outdrive nearly everyone...but had the skillsets to engineer/set up the cars to his style. I cant think of other drivers who were on that level...and as quick as he.
I know very little about can -am racing , but I know enough from this video that I like it 👌
......and they make for some incredible slot-car replicas :)
Beautiful turnout. Love seeing all those Shadows. You can't talk about CanAm without talking about how McLaren really showed how to go about building a racing car to dominate a series. Having said that you can't talk about the open design freedom and aerodynamics without talking about Chaparral.
Indeed, I get the impression CanAm was a dream for McLaren and a natural evolution for someone seemingly born at the right time to succeed when car racing was not so exclusive.
Long live Jim Hall
@@BlueMoonday19 CanAm was the reason Bruce McLaren became a major constructor. He not only built cars for his own tam but he sold plenty of cars to customers too.
Shame the commentary doesn't match the video. We're getting Tom Kristensen in a black and orange Shadow commentary whilst seeing the number 0 Vaillant Porsche 917k/10k
Two people who obviously know nothing about the cars blabbering on.
Yep, Harry Benjamin did a terrible job with the commentary
They obviously wheeled on some female airhead to fulfill their dei fulfilments. You need expert commentary for vintage motorsport.
They sound like idiots, to not recognize the Porsche is unbelievable and don’t they have a producer in their ear.
@@DrVaticinator Instead of their salaries, hire a talented sound guy. Goodwood sound recordings are generally awful quality.
Wow, watching these cars on this track takes me back! I'm from Southern California, USA. When I was a kid there used to be a racetrack in SoCal called Riverside Raceway, and I got to go see the Can Am's racing one year back in the 60's. I used to watch car racing from Riverside Raceway on television aired by Wide World of Sports in the United States. That racetrack and television show are no longer around, but this video takes me back, thank you.
The designs of these cars are absolutely insane! Basically just massive engines with a wedge shaped shell around it and a massive wing. SO COOL!
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada was a Can Am stop. We could hear these cars from several miles away. The field was completely mixed. Awesome Mclarens sharing the track with Mustangs and Camaros, Alfas and MGs. It was a noisy, joyful chaotic kind of racing, gone forever.
Where (in or out of the city) would they race? Is the track long gone? Genuinely curious.
Re: your thumbnail. I'm not aware of an 11-liter engine that ran in the Can-Am series. The largest displacement engine I ever heard of was 8.0 and 8.3 liter (488 and 506 cubic inches, respectively) engines that McLaren ultimately ran in an attempt to keep pace with the turbocharged Porsches.
Same here. I was like: "whaat?? which car had engine like that?"
Went on googleing, found nothing.
March ran a bigger engine in a 717. It was 540 cubic inches, or 8.8 liters. Biggest engine I’ve ever seen on an entry list was the Corvette GTP that ran with a 10.2 liter V8 at Le Mans in 1985 or 1986 (can’t remember exactly) with Jacques Villeneuve, Sr. as one of the drivers. But that’s still not close to 11 liters
@@mcrichton46 But a GTP car that ran at Le Mans wouldn't belong in a field described here as "Can-Am monsters." Otherwise, why not say cars like these include the Beast of Turin?😆
This would imply cylinders of 1.375 litres each 😂😂😂😂
@@raceyrache8463 well, Beast of Turin has over 7 litres per cylinder :D
You need a commentator who can talk about each car and its history, just over air head talk.
that nasally guy just stating the obvious-big car...trumpets...noise....outlandish
They must be that old they don’t no what they are 😂
And you have to remember just how small these cars were
The March, M8d and the 917/30 among the largest built!
eh??
Gene Crowe built a 1000 turbo big block... in a McLaren, I believe. I met him at Lime Rock. Actually, I was introduced to him by Paul Newman, who was racing Bob Sharp's Z car!!! My GF and I spent the rest of the day watching the races atop Bob Sharp's motorhome along with Bob and his wife, Paul and Gene!! Great memories!!! 😃
Proper Motorsport, minimum regs, pure entertainment.
The greatest wall of sound I've ever experienced was in the 80s at the Zolder track with a standing start of these cars and the sound bouncing of the grandstand I was on.
I saw them all, including the 917-30s at Riverside Raceway as a teen.
The reason for the dollar signs mentioned at 3:06 is not accurate. The dollar signs orginally appeared on the Mk1 that was actually produced for the season, the orange car passing in front at 3:05. The $ signs are a joke that was in reference to when Trevor Harris originally designed the Mk1 car and ended up being over-budget. Internally at Shadown, the Mk1 became known as the "dollar car" after they were painted.
The active aero that some of these cars had is still incredible, even by today's standards. Can-Am really was so far ahead of its time.
The Mclarens had big block Chevys, not a Ford. And most of the Lolas were Chevy powered. Dan Gurney is the only person the get a win in can am using ford power.
Well he did make Ford famous with the Westlake
@@JK-js2td *Weslake
Thats the real sound a racecar must have
If you have ever seen shadows on track, they are BY FAR the most unusual race cars you will ever seen! The videos on UA-cam will never do the shadows design any justice!
Contrary to the announcer’s claims, Can-Am was NOT replaced by F-5000. F-5000 were open wheeled cars and had been already competing for years before the end of Can-Am.
CanAm _was_ replaced by F5000. But it was F5000 with enclosed bodywork. Most were converted Lola T332s, redesigned T333. The spec was otherwise basically identical.
Look at that gargantuan understeer on that #16 car at 6:17. Driving these monsters needs big balls even today with all the modern safety equipment.
Because it was a display run he just wasn't going fast enough to get the car "working" ... the car would only start to balance out that understeer when given some power!
These things are totally fantastic!
It's a British thing. Same way at any FEI equestrian event!! Drives you NUTS!!!! 😮
Bruce McLaren and Denny Hulme. Kiwi legends.
The contrast between the Porsche and the Shadow #16 is just amazing.
And they LAPPED faster than Formula 1 cars of that era
The cars with almost no regulations were faster than the cars with regulations? Crazy!
@@B__L At half the cost
@@danb.3397 Well yeah... It costs a lot of money to make a car fast while fitting regulations. Compared to no regs where you can do whatever you want. There's hillclimb cars in 2024 making more downforce than modern F1 at a tenth of the cost because they aren't spending millions on simulations trying to make the best parts within regulations.
@@B__L ...simple right. Just look at the torque and 0 to whatever times of a certain brand of EV vs the most iconic brands of ICE Supercars costing two, five or even ten times the cost. Rules will always reduce the rate of performance while increasing cost.
@@danb.3397 In the late 60s and early 70s you could still get a spot on the F1 grid without bankrupting a small country. It was cheaper to go racing in Can-Am, but not hugely so, unless you're comparing it in real terms to present day F1, in which case "half the cost" becomes "100th of the cost"
I remember seeing them at Silverstone. Two 5.3 litre turbo charged, 1,000 BHP Porsches in the hands of Leo Kinnunen and Willie Kauhsen won the two heats. The rear tyres were 2 feet wide and the diff was welded solid so they had to use knobbly tyres in the paddock to get them to turn. I seem to remember the speed at the end oh Hangar Straight was 220mph and they were within a whisker of the F1 lap record. Happy days. The 8 litre McLarens were the loudest.
It'd be cool to have another racing series like this today.
Wooo! Need to see that DN4 one more time
Fascinating machines 🤩🤩🤩
I remember watching these at SIR with my stepdad, fond memories indeed. Can-Am, Trans-Am,
looks like Summit Point-lets go man
IF I HAve to Travel to see these cars -I will
No Substitute for Cubic Inches.Rog.
Twin turbo Porsches defeated that fallacy.
annoying commentators talking all over the car sounds
Annoying posters who keep moaning all the time.
8:35 on the timeline for all you moaning, whingeing V8 tragics.
Did you even watch the whole video?
Some Car! Looks Like on giant Match - Box with 11 litr'e danger meby.
Amazing looking cars 🤩
Got to see McLaren M8C 70-03 on track at Raceway Park of the Midlands in Pacific Junction, Iowa yesterday.
If the spirit of this series had kept on...like if dinosaurs had not gone extinct.
First time I have heard someone calling a Porsche, a Shadow... Come on commentators do some research. That Shadow is in fact a Porsche 917/30
It (car #0) is actually a 917/10. The 917/30 was car #6...but your point is well taken. One of the commentators even said that "most of the cars did run the Chevrolet engines...Ford, y'know, was in the back of the Lola and McLarens."
Yes the #0 Vaillant car is I'm pretty sure the prototype 917/30.
It's running in short wheelbase form as for development and testing Porsche added a spacer to lengthen the wheelbase, the longer wheelbase was chosen for the subsequent 917/30 cars .
You can also identify it as a 917/30 by the nose having rounded corners at its lowest point.
Some folks called this a 917/20 as it's the link between the 917/10 and 917/30, but that's incorrect as I understand that the 917/20 was the snub nose car that ran at Le Mans in 1971 dubbed the pink pig, this crashed during the race due to brake failure when Reinhold Joest was driving it .
I love these insane creations
What a line up👍
The Can-Am series was an awesome series that died too early. Went to a Can-Am race at Riverside International Raceway. Penske Porsche's won. 1,000 hp was what their engines pumped out. It was a great time.
Fast cars. Not much racing.
This takes me back to my A/FX slot car phase, 1981-1985. The cars were all from the 70's, F1 cars, Muscle cars and my favourite, Can Am cars.
Can-Am bodies were used a lot in model car racing, both slot car racing and radio control.
They just handled better.
Most excellent 👍
Porsche and their badass Twin-Turbo Flat-16 making 2000hp XD
Jrp and the half scale can am cars were fun to drive. Oklahoma.
Elite Lemans and Can Am ... the greatest racing car in auto racing history ............
The uneven trumpets on the Chevy Big Block powered Can Am cars is due to the way that the exhaust ports are arranged and how they are grouped together with one port length being longer than the other, so the trumpets for the longer port are shorter to retain equal length intake tracts
Finally. A daily
I saw Brian Redman wring out the Porsche 917 at Elkhart Lake in 1974 as a little boy, and I suspect it's the loudest sound I've ever heard.
I saw the Shadow's with George Fulmer driving around Mosport international raceway back in the 90's, during a vintage historic race weekend
There were about a dozen of those thunder monsters ripping around the track as they did back in the late 60 and 70's.
Awesome sight
Love every bit of it, but I would not want to put some of those roll bars to the test.I think I've lost the top of my head!
This was actually a test: which Shadow will be the last one to fail
No rules with some of the best drivers can am was something else and we will never see it again. Even back then it only took less than 10 years for the cost and speed to spiral out of control.
Mike we need a trip to Europe
672 ci SBCs
They raced against Porsches and McLarens that put our 1,600hp in qualy trim and 1120 -1180 in race trim.
672ci would have to be big block surely?
@@jockojockoson9995 They got the engine size wrong in their excitement. Maybe 1100hp from the Porsche in qualifying tune. 1973
There are some of us that watched this racing live and not talking about what was!!
Great stuff. Would be even greater with trackside audio.
Bring back Can-Am
If you don't think 11 liters is a lot, consider this, the Dodge Viper has a V10 that is only EIGHT liters. 11 liters is hewg for a V8!
Given that the Can-Am had very few rules, I was always surprised that Colin Chapman never built a car for the series.
Chapman was all about radical innovations, so I would have thought it could have had a field day with new things.
Some of these look like your first attempt at drawing a “race car” when you’re 5
Reading "The unfair advantage" at the moment.
They didn’t turn the cars loose. I would like to see them really go.
Back in 1968 inspired by Can-Am cars my mate Pete put a wing on his old Ford Pop.
It made quite an impression on people and absolutely no difference to the performance of the Ford Pop.
Shame we couldn't hear the cars over the talking...
Sure wish unrestricted racing would make a comeback
Attended Can-Am races at Mosport and Bridgehampton. At the start when the full grid was all together the sound literally made the ground vibrate. The decibel readings must have off the charts. You felt the sound rather than heard it. Rules??? We don't need no stinkin Rules.
Big Block Chevy powered Go-karts are cool.
It seems that everything that people enjoyed seeing race has been taken away.
How sad that everything has changed, and not for the better in my opinion.
There were no '11 liter' engines (671 ci in American money...) The largest big block Chevrolets were 494ci (overbored and overstroked 427ci/454ci). The commentators' lack of knowledge is well covered in many other comments here; somewhat embarrassing really.
There's probably a couple of those cars that got a 670 cu in. In them now.
What’s her fascination with 3 radiators
Who made a 11 ltr v8, I think you may be mistaken the bore/stroke and weight would MASSIVE ?
8:36 have a listen my friends.
Volume to 11 !
Torque steer all day ❤❤❤
So, this is just a parade?
Way too fast to actually race!
The yellow McLaren M6b with the white and red stripe (ex-Jo Bonnier) was still carrying its race numbers from the Mugello Classic the week before.
So yeah, we still race it!