WARRANTY DENIED! 2022 Audi S5 $30K BILL! Tearing Down Catastrophic Overheat 3.0 TFSI V6 CWGD Engine

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  • @dommerdom
    @dommerdom 7 місяців тому +521

    Not covering a warranty claim caused by a coolant line bursting sounds like a really good way to alienate a customer for life.

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive 7 місяців тому +36

      There's probably a good reason for it. Some suggest an engine re-tune as hinted at early in the video

    • @ThomasF.Cargill
      @ThomasF.Cargill 6 місяців тому +40

      If the owner drove the car with warning lights and probably a real warning to cease driving, Audi was right to refuse the warranty. If the car was in heavy traffic and could not easily be stopped that would be something else. Lack of coolant and/or oil will destroy an engine in a very short amount of time with any type of driving. Need more information. Have an Audi R8 and started having real problems with instrument panel - Audi covered the problem but did take some time. Would buy an Audi again.

    • @boomerzman6148
      @boomerzman6148 5 місяців тому +20

      Driver abuse.

    • @andrewlancefield3730
      @andrewlancefield3730 5 місяців тому +9

      It was messed with doh

    • @CJinSD1
      @CJinSD1 5 місяців тому +13

      Some car manufacturers have far more experience rejecting coverage for catastrophic failures than others. VW is right at the top of the list.

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL 7 місяців тому +1340

    "They don't want you to work on it"
    You just explained the modern automotive industry.....

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth 7 місяців тому +18

      I can't wait until the cam in valve cover becomes widespread. Then no one will want to work on it.

    • @peterpeter5666
      @peterpeter5666 7 місяців тому +35

      so true. its buy a car drive it for 5 years then dispose and buy a new one.

    • @kristensorensen2219
      @kristensorensen2219 7 місяців тому +14

      Lucky those bolts aren't alluminium 😂

    • @kaesden
      @kaesden 7 місяців тому +34

      the modern "anything" industry.

    • @mrpantur7280
      @mrpantur7280 7 місяців тому +14

      this is true on motorcycles aswell. when my 2018 yamaha scooter needed a new top end it was nearly impossible to work on it and they had a spacial tool required for basically every bolt.

  • @maxhugen
    @maxhugen 7 місяців тому +78

    👍I can't believe I just sat through 49 minutes watching that! But I admired both the engineering of the engine, and the skill involved in pulling it apart - without busting everything up. Cool. 😎🇦🇺

    • @mattm3843
      @mattm3843 5 місяців тому

      Must of had a broken ff button lol 😂

  • @nicholas_scott
    @nicholas_scott 7 місяців тому +510

    My wifes 7 year old land rover hit a small rock and it caused a coolant leak. She figured she would keep on driving until I had a chance to look at it. People make bad choices. Expensive repair.

    • @Onewheelordeal
      @Onewheelordeal 7 місяців тому +73

      My wife will pull over and call me after a scary pot hole even when the car is obviously fine, so it can go both ways lol

    • @RadDadisRad
      @RadDadisRad 7 місяців тому +82

      Your bad choice was getting married? I hear ya

    • @Wesleystewart78
      @Wesleystewart78 7 місяців тому +18

      ​ @yeahitskimmel sounds like my wife I have mud tires so they are ruff when it's cold out every winter she freaks out and calls me because it has a bad vibration lol

    • @joshuawest9537
      @joshuawest9537 7 місяців тому +2

      Dude you just reminded me to check my coolant thank you oml

    • @MeaHeaR
      @MeaHeaR 7 місяців тому +4

      ​​@@RadDadisRadHe's M.G.T.O.W, Now 🌞🤠😮🤓

  • @SeeClamp
    @SeeClamp 7 місяців тому +186

    Eric, I just saw a video on Rainman Ray's Repairs that discussed your collaboration with Ray in saving the van for the afflicted family. Hats off to you, brother! God bless you and Ray!! This is why I watch you guys. I am very proud of you both!

    • @peacefrog0521
      @peacefrog0521 7 місяців тому +7

      Link to said video?

    • @BenjaminCronce
      @BenjaminCronce 7 місяців тому

      @@peacefrog0521 ua-cam.com/video/D3rdMzoIjfI/v-deo.html

    • @peacefrog0521
      @peacefrog0521 7 місяців тому

      Found it
      ua-cam.com/video/D3rdMzoIjfI/v-deo.htmlsi=aBPeaNf4fgGzq0dR

    • @bjbosche
      @bjbosche 7 місяців тому

      @@peacefrog0521 ua-cam.com/video/D3rdMzoIjfI/v-deo.html

    • @ginog5037
      @ginog5037 7 місяців тому

      You and Ray are good people, God Bless.

  • @tilerman
    @tilerman 7 місяців тому +23

    I'm not even a car guy and watched the whole video, and coming from someone who can just about tell the difference between a steering wheel and a back bumper, i don't know who you guys get your head around this stuff, gave me the shivers just watching! And 30k, for an engine. Incredible.

  • @alabamared2568
    @alabamared2568 7 місяців тому +117

    Eric as a person that doesn't follow you as much I'm here to say thank you for helping the family in Florida with Rayman ray to get the motor for the Dodge van replacement that is an awesome thing both of you are doing together the family who has medical issues will be forever grateful as am I and the viewers from Rays channel bless you both!!!!❤❤

  • @christopherweise438
    @christopherweise438 7 місяців тому +392

    "This has a 0% chance of working." - Eric
    Proceeds to work perfectly.

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 7 місяців тому +5

      Eric's a humble man 😂

    • @christopherweise438
      @christopherweise438 7 місяців тому +7

      @@samholdsworth420 - Yea.....i always set the bar low for myself. I would've said the same thing had it been me in that situation.

    • @09corvettezr1
      @09corvettezr1 7 місяців тому +7

      Eric pulls the “milkshake pump” gets pristine coolant.
      Eric pulls the “oil pump” gets milkshake.

    • @Duken4evr29
      @Duken4evr29 7 місяців тому +1

      Before giving one's best effort, it is helpful to set low expectations for the outcome of that effort, as they can be exceeded and it isn't a crippling disappointment if they aren't. This sums up my approach to life. Try hard, expect little and be grateful when things occasionally do go my way. Who knew Eric is such a philosophical life coach? 😄

    • @CadexLaw
      @CadexLaw 7 місяців тому

      Yes

  • @AyeCarumba221
    @AyeCarumba221 29 днів тому +6

    As I watch this, I think two different things:
    What a beautiful marvelous piece of engineering.
    And, what a ridiculous huge and pointless waste of money. Expensive to make, expensive to maintain, expensive to replace. I’ll take a nice ‘63 Plymouth 225 Slant Six any day.

  • @EvanHovis
    @EvanHovis 7 місяців тому +156

    After seeing this teardown. It makes me appreciate my honda K20 i adjusted the valves on today. 328,000 miles and it purrs. Had a leaky valve cover gasket so did some adjustments while i had it off

    • @piggy310
      @piggy310 7 місяців тому +11

      Same for my Camry 4cyl 5SFE, 355k miles and only time the engine was touched is a valve cover gasket

    • @dougrobinson8602
      @dougrobinson8602 7 місяців тому +7

      Honda K-series engines are amazing. I plan to get at least 300K on my K24.

    • @andrewdonohue1853
      @andrewdonohue1853 7 місяців тому +10

      my 2003 bonneville SSEi supercharged L67, 21 years old and just runs incredibly well. it only has 125K on it but still it runs like brand new. tons of torque (pulley swap), it's less then halfway through it's lifespan. 3800's, probably GM's best made V6..... ever.

    • @LePedant
      @LePedant 7 місяців тому +4

      SR20 life here, 280k still runs like a champ!

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 7 місяців тому +1

      how much were the valves off of spec?

  • @ps_n_sq5
    @ps_n_sq5 7 місяців тому +55

    I work with these just about every day. Oil filter housings, PCV's, water pumps and thermostats, that valve that brings vacuum to the water pump, oil strainers, turbos, timing covers... I uhhh... Yeet. But thanks for the teardown as always! To anybody that has this engine, the code is CWGD, 8.0 qts. of 0W-20 (T40718 dipstick tool 76 0 14 or 16), 12-point spark plugs that are a 14mm, and these engines are in way too many of our cars. Water pumps are a pain because #serviceposition.

    • @KAZALO9
      @KAZALO9 3 місяці тому

      7.8 quarts of oil and 0 w 20 is way to thin only used for emissions reasons . MAYBE in the 30 below 0 I'd run 0 w 20 in the B9. I run 5 w 30 in my stage 2 B9 .. 90k on it changed oil every 3k spark plugs every 20 and trans fluid pan and 40 and 80 . 10 w 50 with an oil cooler if you drive it like it's stolen .... these cars with an APR tune are crazy reliable .. 034 is awful . I'll bet my job at Audi it had an 034 tune ..

    • @sigmamale4147
      @sigmamale4147 Місяць тому

      Lol you need a special tool to check the oil level ? No way

  • @m4rvelous23
    @m4rvelous23 7 місяців тому +13

    Love tuning in to 45 minutes of a sarcastic mechanic. Brightens my day!

  • @davidclark3304
    @davidclark3304 7 місяців тому +295

    I often think about the irony of this. The engineers spend years developing this exotic technology, the advertisers flaunt it, the dealers brag, and the owners are all proud to own such machinery. And then in a few years it goes to the scrap yard.

    • @rewing4880
      @rewing4880 7 місяців тому +3

      Tell my 2015 VW 1.8 turbo that. At 55k miles and it runs perfect.

    • @andrewnajarian5994
      @andrewnajarian5994 7 місяців тому +19

      They should save everyone the trouble and just ship them straight to the scrap yards! 😂

    • @dil6969
      @dil6969 7 місяців тому +28

      I don't think we'll ever see better built or longer lasting luxury cars than the Lexus LS400 and the Mercedes W124. The sort of customers that buy luxury cars nowadays do not care about longevity outside of the warranty period. They can afford to replace them every few years, and it's clear the design priorities have shifted to match customer preference.

    • @MrWilburlandaverde
      @MrWilburlandaverde 7 місяців тому +11

      Over a decade later and the 3.2 vr6 in my audi is still running and still wanted.
      Saying they end up in a scrap yard is delusional

    • @EBK_iN_MY_DNA
      @EBK_iN_MY_DNA 7 місяців тому +4

      @@rewing4880don’t worry, you’ll have plenty of problems, that is if it makes it to 100k
      Source: master Audi/vw mechanic

  • @Bears58
    @Bears58 7 місяців тому +14

    Eric this is the first time I've watched your video. I watch Ray,s Repairs and I saw how fantastic it is that you and Ray are helping out the family with the Chrysler van blown engine. It's really nice of you both to lend a helping hand to a family that is going through such a hard time. Thank you for being so kind with your time and donating a engine to the cause. Bless you and Ray

  • @busterellis7188
    @busterellis7188 7 місяців тому +88

    I rented this exact car a few weeks ago. I got my first speeding ticket in 25 years. Never driven a car that goes from 80 to a 110 like this one did. This engine has some serious power in that little car.

    • @teleguy5699
      @teleguy5699 7 місяців тому +12

      S5 is no joke.

    • @Dave5843-d9m
      @Dave5843-d9m 6 місяців тому +3

      In 2002, I had a new Audi A4 1.9 TDi 140bhp. It was one very quick car. The 2.( V6 only came in 4x4 with 200bjp it didn’t hang about.

    • @firstjohn3123
      @firstjohn3123 6 місяців тому

      😂 I like mine....

    • @Railroad1204
      @Railroad1204 5 місяців тому +3

      I have the same engine in my Q8 with just a filter intake and 93 octane and I promise you it’s such a joy to drive on the highway

    • @AmericanThunder
      @AmericanThunder 5 місяців тому +1

      @@teleguy5699 Doesn't it weigh in around 4000 lbs, and only has 350 hp? How fast can it be?

  • @Mattthewanderer
    @Mattthewanderer 7 місяців тому +351

    Just once I want to hear a Wilhelm scream when you throw a perfectly reusable chain guide.

    • @daewooparts
      @daewooparts 7 місяців тому +18

      Or the water pump & electronic thermostat 😆

    • @goldenboi7685
      @goldenboi7685 7 місяців тому +3

      And get him sued by Disney?

    • @emgriffiths9743
      @emgriffiths9743 7 місяців тому +3

      Should mount a bunch of those in an epoxy table

    • @Kingsoupturbo
      @Kingsoupturbo 7 місяців тому +4

      Those audi guides are so expensive, and chains, and many of them there is no aftermarket. Kind of makes buying any rear timing chain engine car, not a real prospect.

    • @MistrX44444
      @MistrX44444 7 місяців тому +2

      @@goldenboi7685 I think Wilhelm was a Warner efx.

  • @otakujhp
    @otakujhp 7 місяців тому +308

    That 100% deserves a rebuild.

    • @heathharry8424
      @heathharry8424 7 місяців тому +18

      yup, deck the heads and block, crack test, if ok, new bearings, new rings, pistons looks reasonable, but likely replace as it clearly overheated, re-assemble and away you go...it looks like in reasonably good condition...

    • @peterpeter5666
      @peterpeter5666 7 місяців тому +22

      Can't rebuilt German engines. Every time I've seen someone try ,they never lasted. Plus they don't have any tolerance for machine work to be done on them

    • @joskd8491
      @joskd8491 7 місяців тому +29

      @@peterpeter5666 an almost new Audi engine, overheated on both cilinderbanks, plastic waterpumpimpeller. Variable camshaft timing, electronic thermosthat, built-in failure points in my opinion. No good sign of engineering and building quality here. Throw-away engines, that's what they are

    • @jonmallard2176
      @jonmallard2176 7 місяців тому +44

      As an Audi tech who has worked on these engines, there's pretty much a 0% chance of rebuilding these without the factory tools required to do so. I know there's guys out there that would say "yeah, you could just rig something up to make it work" but you really can't on this engine. The timing alone requires cam locks, crank lock and locking pins for the zero lash pulley that you see removed at 14:15.

    • @peterpeter5666
      @peterpeter5666 7 місяців тому

      @@jonmallard2176 MY EXPERIENCE WITH German cars as a tech for 40 years is , what ever you do to these engines, after they fail is a bandage and they will eventually fail again in a short time. Pretty sure as a tech at audi when every you had engine issues , 99% of the time it was a new engine in a crate.

  • @Dereck-k2l
    @Dereck-k2l 7 місяців тому +64

    Former Audi tech here... These are actually a whole lot easier to tear down than the older engines. The stand and adapters from Audi for the V6 was like 20k. The table the pull them out was another 10k.

    • @JOutterbridge
      @JOutterbridge 7 місяців тому +5

      Can you do full timing and major repairs with the engine still in the car?

    • @Dead_Fighter_Pilots
      @Dead_Fighter_Pilots 7 місяців тому +2

      very curious how the dual cam lobes are operated at the different rpm ranges.

    • @quademasters249
      @quademasters249 7 місяців тому +5

      @@Dead_Fighter_Pilots Same. I suspect the lobes move from left to right on the shaft. The solenoid engages ramps on the lobes so when they turn the "lobes" follow. You can just barely see some splines under the cam lobes when he does a close up on the shafts.

    • @gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807
      @gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@Dead_Fighter_Pilotsit's called Miller Cycle, or in VW/Audi jargon, Budack Cycle. At low loads, it engages the low profile cam, that has low lift and closes the intake valves very early, before bottom dead center. It does this to get lower pumping losses. It's effective, Mercedes has this too on the 2.0 turbo, and gets very good fuel consumption out of a very powerful engine.

    • @egonieser
      @egonieser 6 місяців тому +5

      Fun, that you need a entirely seperate station for just one engine. Easier to just... not bother

  • @someguywithaphone5921
    @someguywithaphone5921 7 місяців тому +146

    "Many feeler gauges of thickness". Yes Eric, Yes it is.

    • @Spookkoe
      @Spookkoe 7 місяців тому +14

      Americans will use any measuring system rather than the metric system ;)

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 16 днів тому

      "I don't wanna break this guide" unbelievably Eric lol

  • @vuiceman
    @vuiceman 7 місяців тому +192

    Omg! Yes!!!! I actually have this engine in my SQ5 and cannot wait to watch this video!
    Well, 2 minutes in and no, no one has tuned them to 450/600 with just a simple flash tune…
    Nope no one ever

    • @rleger123
      @rleger123 7 місяців тому +3

      Have a SQ5, should I be nervous now?

    • @HappyHarryHardon
      @HappyHarryHardon 7 місяців тому +3

      @@rleger123have you turned yours up?

    • @raoulrr
      @raoulrr 7 місяців тому +36

      I think a flash tune might've been the reason for the warranty denial. Also the case of failure if it was a particularly aggressive tune, putting a ton more boost without the proper supporting mods (upgraded intercooler, radiator etc.) will mean a lot more heat, so heads start warping and more boost will 'help' compression go past the head gaskets.

    • @JohnSmith-pl2bk
      @JohnSmith-pl2bk 7 місяців тому +13

      @@raoulrr
      Don't forget the "hot V"....all that heat going out into the V...
      oh wait.....
      that's the 'side" of the head/block that got really really hot
      right where the unitary exhaust goes out to the turbo?

    • @TheMiseryIndex
      @TheMiseryIndex 7 місяців тому +1

      Do an oil change 😂😂

  • @damonwright8328
    @damonwright8328 5 місяців тому +5

    If you don't have the appropriate tool, you can make a slide hammer to get the caps off. You can use x2 dynabolt.
    Tighten the dynabolted up in the boss on both sides on the caps and then make a slide hammer to suit
    Add a plate across the two Dynabolts, and then you can attach a slide hammer to the plate and then slide hammer off

  • @spyderlogan4992
    @spyderlogan4992 7 місяців тому +106

    The machine work on that engine is state of the art. Just beautiful to look at. Thanks Eric.

    • @johnarnold893
      @johnarnold893 7 місяців тому +11

      And totally over engineered for what it is.

    • @Thegonagle
      @Thegonagle 7 місяців тому +28

      For what it is? I mean, it’s compact, and the casting is obviously designed to be very strong but as lightweight as possible. I was prepared for yet another truly over-engineered positively infuriating German engine, and I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong. In my opinion, this might be one of the least “over engineered” engines I’ve seen in the modern era. It’s refreshingly free of gratuitous parts, moving and otherwise, and it’s refreshingly free of plastic and other cut-cost parts. Everything you see makes sense, like it was done for good reason. There’s a lack of unnecessary timing chains, idlers, tensioners, or guides, and the water pump isn’t buried under there. The cam chains counterrotate using the geared balance shaft to drive them reducing chain length and weight. The hot Vee is all the better to feed the turbos. The timing chains being on the “wrong” end makes it more compact. The unique camshaft/valve cover assembly is also simple, compact, and leads to shorter engine height. In addition to timing phasers on the intake and exhaust sprockets, the assembly also incorporates a simple mechanism equivalent to Honda V-TEC (specifically, V-TEC’s selectable cam profiles) without stepping on Honda’s toes. It’s no Ford 300, but those days are over and they aren’t coming back. For its feature set, I’ll dare say it, this Audi is almost minimalist.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 7 місяців тому +18

      @@johnarnold893 _" totally over engineered for what it is."_
      And how would you have achieved the same power, torque, weight and fuel economy/emissions with less engineering?

    • @knight2425
      @knight2425 7 місяців тому +5

      These things are over engineered hence why they can take so much horsepower with relatively little work.

    • @normala3227
      @normala3227 7 місяців тому +5

      @@ferrumignis With a V8 LS, pushrods and compactness at fraction of the cost - $10k. LS may be a little less fuel efficient, but the difference in cost makes up for that. Audi engines are ridiculous complex and so expensive at over $30k for a V6 and $40K for a V8. Further, LS engines do not require replacement of cheap valve guides at 60 to 80 k miles.

  • @Smakheed
    @Smakheed 7 місяців тому +90

    Checked my book, I've done 6 of these engines which had multiple head gasket breaches as you found, every single one was warrantied as soon as we found the head gasket issue, meaning new replacements were fitted (£32K/job). Each removed one was a complete teardown, wash and rebuild with head and block skims AND new shells, timing gear all round. Total cost £4Kper engine, majority being labour.

    • @Redshift-
      @Redshift- 7 місяців тому +8

      Madness 🙄 a, they don't have the ability or b, the Labour costs per hour are Laughable, c, I would demand a new Car with the new Engine if it was just months old like his Engine looked !!!
      Simple repair for a real Mechanic - By the way that residue coolant in the oil would mostly evaporate off with a 10 mile drive, So the Engine did not need a full strip down if the Block was Flat, Just a couple of oil changes.

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 7 місяців тому +2

      “… with a dose of M.M.O. to help clean things out?”

    • @cornishcat11
      @cornishcat11 7 місяців тому +6

      @@dennisyoung4631 snake oil

    • @townhall05446
      @townhall05446 7 місяців тому +4

      Were those head gaskets faulty or did something else go wrong and the person kept driving anyhow - CAUSING the more serious engine damage? People are dumb and they'll take a chance rather than take a walk.

    • @desmondharney1185
      @desmondharney1185 7 місяців тому +3

      It had a water pipe burst loosing its coolant..causing head gasket failure

  • @pepsifester
    @pepsifester 5 місяців тому +72

    I am a nurse. When you pulled off the oil pump chain cover, I had flashbacks to the worst things I have seen when I have taken a diaper off my patients.

    • @stevenweiss2148
      @stevenweiss2148 5 місяців тому +2

      Pepsifester. It does stink
      But a different stink

    • @natelove187
      @natelove187 5 місяців тому +1

      🙈

    • @Dani-it5sy
      @Dani-it5sy 4 місяці тому +1

      🤣🤣

    • @coronaphone710
      @coronaphone710 4 місяці тому

      What was his/her name? 😂
      That's funny.
      So we can make fun of your patients.
      Some laughter might help the recovery.

    • @old_dan
      @old_dan 3 місяці тому

      Any parent would have seen that as well, lol. I don't miss changing diapers.

  • @Jdmorris143
    @Jdmorris143 7 місяців тому +24

    I used to come here to learn about engine tear downs. I now come here to see what you do with the chain tensioners. This time was 10 out of 10!

  • @sumners26red
    @sumners26red 7 місяців тому +21

    I requested this engine a while back and never thought you’d ever get one! How cool. Too bad the intakes and turbo didn’t come with.

  • @EShirako
    @EShirako 5 місяців тому +9

    I think the engine DID die quickly...the oil cooler seemed like it had normal oil on one side and 'forbidden milkshake' on the other, so it didn't seem to get to purge the whole oil cooler of actual-oil before it gave up/was shut down.
    This engine's engineering is really looking pretty amazing, honestly. I like it a lot. I'd love to find out what that engine had happen to it.

  • @kylerobertson9546
    @kylerobertson9546 7 місяців тому +185

    That S5 thermostat was worth about $550 & $480 to install. Should have kept it ! Lol

    • @JohnSmith-pl2bk
      @JohnSmith-pl2bk 7 місяців тому

      It's been bathed in super hot coolant or steam........
      not reliable any more??
      Eric won't even consider selling it.....

    • @wino99999
      @wino99999 7 місяців тому +4

      I saw something get thrown into the waste bin, but was it the thermostat from this engine.....

    • @JohnSmith-pl2bk
      @JohnSmith-pl2bk 7 місяців тому +18

      @@wino99999
      Yes.
      The chances of it being overheated were too great to allow Eric to ethically sell it...
      and anyway he always throws thermostats away....

    • @1djbecker
      @1djbecker 7 місяців тому +18

      I'm not sure how these are designed, but an overheat could easily have subtly ruined the thermostat. Traditional 'wax pellet' thermostats use a wax that only significantly expands when it reaches a critical temperature. The wax continues to expand if it gets hotter. The operating spring compensates for some expansion, but when it bottoms out some wax will escape. The missing wax results in a thermostat that still starts opening at the target temperature, but doesn't fully open until a much higher temperature.
      This effect is amplified in an ECU controlled thermostat. Those use a heating element in the wax to allow the ECU adjust the operating temperature while remaining fail-safe as a traditional thermostat if something goes wrong. During an overheat ECU will operate the embedded heater at full force in an attempt to cool the engine, possibly ruining the thermostat in an attempt to save the engine.
      Older ECUs didn't log this as a failure event. Perhaps this Audi does, and also logged how many times it warned the driver that something was wrong.

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 7 місяців тому +19

      I will not modify a new 3000$ engine. Why young people will eagerly modify 30,000$ engine speaks to apathy and stupidity.

  • @09corvettezr1
    @09corvettezr1 7 місяців тому +11

    Funny Eric that you chose this engine this weekend as it seems it was nearly defective out of the box, just like the new GM fuel pump my coworker bought for his 07 Sierra 1500, which I spent my Saturday helping him install. His old fuel pump still worked but there was this strange wetness and fuel smell from the top of the old pump😉. After we dealt with all rusty straps, removed the fuel line from the old pump and got it all back in the truck we found that when you cycle the key the new pump would only pump for about two seconds and no fuel was getting to the engine.
    We tried plugging in the old pump (which the truck drove in with, and was now oddly missing its fuel outlet fitting) to see if it powered up any differently, it didn’t. We looked for bent pins on connectors, plugged evap lines, etc, before finally dropping the tank again and comparing the pumps, we couldn’t spot any differences between them. It wasn’t until we tried powering up both pumps, while only partially submerged in gas, that we found the problem. The old pump would push fuel out of the broken(and slightly brown) outlet, the new pump was just splashing fuel around inside the lower housing that surrounds the actual pump. This pointed us towards the actual problem with the new GM pump. The actual fuel pump had a broken outlet where it connected to the rest of the plastic pump housing, and was just pumping fuel back into the tank. After a few deals were made over the phone between my coworker and the GM dealer we installed the old pump in the new housing and the truck ran fine.

  • @cgmiller82
    @cgmiller82 7 місяців тому +2

    I ended up finding your channel with the tear down of the Subaru WRX VA engine. Now I'm just binge watching your videos to learn absolutely everything about every engine. I love how the variable cam works in this engine, although you didn't really cover it, there a few parts I watched several times to figure it out. Your humor is on point. I'd to request that you take a bit of time to go over strange/new technologies like variable cam timings... I'm not done the video, so if you cover it, ignore me. Thanks!

  • @bobcarry4820
    @bobcarry4820 7 місяців тому +6

    Had a 70's Datsun 2 ltr 4 cyl truck. Blew a heater hose on the way to work and continued my trip (3 miles). I watch heat gauge and it stayed in the safe zone. Problem is gauge sender is in the block and the head didn't have coolant. Relatively easy to pull head, get it planed and re-installed but a lesson that cost. Thanks for sharing video.

  • @09corvettezr1
    @09corvettezr1 7 місяців тому +10

    Worth mentioning Eric that the balance shaft is spun by that idler gear above the back of the crankshaft, which clearly has a built in counter weight, to oppose the counter weight at the front of the engine.

  • @derekstocker6661
    @derekstocker6661 7 місяців тому +3

    Fascinating tear down, more than impressed with your knowledge and ability to pull these mills apart.
    Great respect and so damned sad for the owner of the car and the expense they must have had. Well done and keep up the amazing work!

  • @peterolsson1470
    @peterolsson1470 7 місяців тому +88

    I actually got Audi commercial breaks in this video. 😂

    • @tomrogers9467
      @tomrogers9467 7 місяців тому +8

      Take that as a warning!

    • @peterolsson1470
      @peterolsson1470 7 місяців тому

      @@tomrogers9467 yeah.

    • @DN-kz7xl
      @DN-kz7xl 7 місяців тому +2

      LOL. No way!

    • @radleysmith7528
      @radleysmith7528 7 місяців тому +1

      I got Peugeot commercial, a simultaneous malfunction occurred within a hydro elastic suspension pipe forcing my butt cheeks backward 45% from level plane forcing me to admire a skilled GF's presence upon the leaky issue

  • @mesolith
    @mesolith 7 місяців тому +19

    I've watched you for a long time and my wife will generally watch. I have to add a little more narrative for her to understand what you are doing. On occasion, I get exhausted watching you because I think, 'Thank the Lord, that is not me trying to work on one of my engines'...which I used to do...before I was 89 with two new knees. I pretend that my engine work went as smoothly as yours while knowing it never did. Right now, my 1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon (5.7 liter) needs a power steering hose. I have someone I will trust to do that. Thanks for the good cheer and hard work that I do not have to do.

  • @jakemalinowski1397
    @jakemalinowski1397 2 місяці тому +3

    I own an S4 with this engine. It is a great car and is reliable as long as you follow ALL maintenance religiously, and perform proper visual checks every week or two. My car is tuned. I do all my own maintenance and work, but I enjoy it. The technology in this engine is awesome. The built in velocity stacks on the intake!!?!? I cannot believe no one has mentioned that in the comments yet. Also, if you didn't notice from the video, this engine has an integral exhaust manifold--meaning the entire exhaust manifold is inside. This is done for better thermal capacity. It helps with the hot V design and also emissions to get the engine up to temp extremely quick. Very cool technology balancing performance with emissions. I would say do not buy a car with a EA839 engine unless you love cars and know how to work on modern engines, or you must have the money to dish out for repairs and proper maintenance. High performance GT sedans with this engine, you must pay to play people--or have the knowledge to know how to service your engine yourself.

    • @AlenMop
      @AlenMop Місяць тому

      Could buy a Tesla and never work on it. Just drive it until 300K-400K miles and if the battery degrades too much, current costs a fraction of an Audi engine and it just keeps getting cheaper.

  • @grantsdad98
    @grantsdad98 7 місяців тому +11

    I suspect the main bearing caps were installed cryogenically. Freeze the caps to a shrinking point, install. At room temperature, they'll fit snuggly.

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 7 місяців тому +1

      Called an 'interference fit.' At room temperature the bearing caps are actually larger than the block. Also used to install bearings on shafts so they stay tight.

  • @krevo6c
    @krevo6c 7 місяців тому +58

    2.45am in Germany 🇩🇪.
    Perfect time to watch a new Taredown 😎.

    • @reubensandwich9249
      @reubensandwich9249 7 місяців тому +3

      Perfrct time, perfect engine

    • @randomsomeguy156
      @randomsomeguy156 7 місяців тому +2

      In the event you don't know the correct spelling is "teardown" I just wanted to leave this comment

    • @Paxmax
      @Paxmax 7 місяців тому

      Also in Germany, 2:26 in the "morning".

  • @chiefordnance
    @chiefordnance 6 місяців тому +47

    Dave's auto center in Utah.Needs that engine for an S5 now for parts or rebuild.

    • @MrJimmy3459
      @MrJimmy3459 5 місяців тому +7

      I just saw that video, customer just bought that Audi too and the engine blew

    • @alexg9727
      @alexg9727 5 місяців тому +8

      @@MrJimmy3459 Dave is trying to say its the oil type when its literally just a crap design

    • @alexg9727
      @alexg9727 5 місяців тому +9

      @@MrJimmy3459 The only car where the dealer tells you " I think Audi says 1qt/lt every 1000mi is acceptable but no customer will ever agree that is normal. My S5 goes through 1qt every 5~6kmi."

    • @iliketakingshowers
      @iliketakingshowers 5 місяців тому

      Just came over from that video. He had it mounted on a stand

    • @EShirako
      @EShirako 5 місяців тому +3

      Even my old Honda Civic has some obscene rating of "One quart per 3000 miles" or something. I mean, I guess that much oil in TOTAL may not be an awful sign in a mechanical sense, but that's losing/burning way too much for my liking. STRICTLY speaking, though, I suppose it's not necessarily a *warrantable* amount of oil loss, so I see what they are saying. Sort-of.

  • @Jakek200
    @Jakek200 7 місяців тому +10

    Those solenoids are for shiftable cams to use the different profiles. GM has been doing the same on their 2.0L "LSY" and the 2.7L "Turbomax" engines from 2019+ on both cams. There's a high lift, low lift, and no lift (AFM) profiles.
    I wonder if in time and high miles those sliding splines will start wearing out and cam lobes start binding when trying to shift. I guess time will tell.
    Also yes those 'cam carrier' gaskets do leak, the 2.0L engine specifically are notorious for it and require retiming the engine but the chain and cams are locked during the repair.

    • @tally5k339
      @tally5k339 7 місяців тому +2

      Audi's used this system (they call it AVS) on a few engines now, going back over a decade, and I haven't heard of it going bad. On my VW GTI's gen 3 EA888 specifically, the main issue is the VVT solenoids (not the lift ones) going bad from being run low on oil consistently

    • @ryandoyle4344
      @ryandoyle4344 7 місяців тому

      Should have a fail-safe, likely low lift, but today who knows, probably fails into afm!

  • @strokermaverick
    @strokermaverick 7 місяців тому +12

    Love to see, machine shop diagnosis of warpage, on heads, block, valve covers and cylinder bore.

  • @ironhorsehero1988
    @ironhorsehero1988 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey Eric, can’t wait for the video of you reassembling that engine, very interesting tear down, hardly surprising they wrote it off seeing all that mess coming out of the oil drain sump but how much could have been saved instead of a new engine and the economics of it.

  • @mydimeisup5103
    @mydimeisup5103 7 місяців тому +20

    Nice! I think I saw an EA837 Supercharged 3.0T from Audi in the background. Would love to see that teardown!

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  7 місяців тому +36

      I promise, one of the three of those that came in will be on the channel soon

    • @harrywalker968
      @harrywalker968 7 місяців тому

      @@I_Do_Cars 2.0 pt pinto. we would mount them by the engine mount. so we could build the whole engine. HINT. make a brkt..pivoting..

    • @harrywalker968
      @harrywalker968 7 місяців тому

      @@I_Do_Cars big ends. proly need a diff spreader, ish..

  • @painmagnet1
    @painmagnet1 7 місяців тому +60

    Makes me wonder if the dealer didn't pull the computer's logs and see a flash tune. Instant warranty denial.

    • @schmo7777
      @schmo7777 7 місяців тому +10

      Easy and likely. Better to under run an engine than blow it. They ain't cheap!

    • @dontimlin4506
      @dontimlin4506 7 місяців тому +4

      Only at first - the burden is still on Audi at that point to prove that the tune caused the damage or failure. A smart customer that now has breakdown evidence could go back and fight this one. This is a clear fault failure there was no damage or evidence to show that any modifications could have caused this damage.

    • @hunterlacy2320
      @hunterlacy2320 7 місяців тому +19

      @@dontimlin4506 I wish thats how it was but its not unfortunately. Most euro brands void the warranty the moment you scan a car that has a tune. As a former BMW tech at a dealer, the moment I hooked a car up with a tune, that was it, the files are remotely uploaded to BMWs server and a record is kept. Once you tune a BMW its recorded forever in the ECMs programming data

    • @melissasmess2773
      @melissasmess2773 7 місяців тому +3

      That's what happened!

    • @justalex6301
      @justalex6301 7 місяців тому +4

      Standard protocol is to scan vehicle to check for aftermarket tune. If the car isn't scanned warranty claim is automatically denied and dealership has to foot the bill.

  • @michaelmowrey9932
    @michaelmowrey9932 3 місяці тому +1

    This was a joy to watch. I tore down and rebuilt a GEN2 4.2 V8. The technology is very similar.

  • @rainmant5724
    @rainmant5724 7 місяців тому +5

    Neat! Thank you for this tear down. Not everyday you get a brand new one to disassemble and see the latest technology/design.

  • @S0SS0L
    @S0SS0L 7 місяців тому +32

    MSRP was $56,395 to $64,495 for the coupe and $64,495 to $72,595 for the convertible. A bill for half the price of the car seems like a replace-the-car scenario to me.

    • @richardcherico2434
      @richardcherico2434 7 місяців тому +2

      That works if you don't have a note on it.

    • @paleghost
      @paleghost 7 місяців тому +3

      Close call. Buy a new one or lightly used one and part out the old one. Hopefully a specialist salvage yard would pay decent money for it.

    • @antcantcook960
      @antcantcook960 7 місяців тому +1

      “the car still had temp tags on it”

    • @francisdoran971
      @francisdoran971 7 місяців тому +2

      I'm laughing because all the EV haters keep going on about the price of a replacement high voltage battery writing off the car.
      ICE engines are just as bad.

    • @Key-z2x
      @Key-z2x 7 місяців тому +2

      I would never understand why anyone would do that. At that point I'd just go ls1 swap for a small fraction of the cost

  • @bigwater52
    @bigwater52 5 місяців тому +9

    This car didn’t overheat and caused the warranty to be voided. Someone got a nice hot tune in it, with to much boost, and it lifted the head! These engines are notorious for lifting the cylinder head, in the center most upright bore. Even with arp studs, it still a gamble under high boost- we see these tend to lift the heads around the 550-600hp area or, if the tuner don’t know what they are doing, and have to much timing/boost and fire slots the head/block

    • @garyandtricia1
      @garyandtricia1 5 місяців тому

      My guess also.

    • @bigwater52
      @bigwater52 4 місяці тому

      @@xzox uh because we can…….. mines been living life at 700whp for the last 3.5 years at 120k miles. It’s fun. Turns heads, blast to drive. To each there own though

  • @AS-fm6iw
    @AS-fm6iw 7 місяців тому +75

    I worked on a vw 10+ years ago and told myself ill never buy anything vw again and dont regret it to this day

    • @allanhope7018
      @allanhope7018 7 місяців тому +11

      Great engineering is accomplishing complicated things done in simple ways. However, VW loves to do simple things in complicated ways. For absolutely no reason. They even do stupid things like make the flywheel bolt holes all the way through the crank shaft so if you don't make sure to seal the bolts completely all the way around with thread locker your actual crank shaft will leak oil and fling it all over your new clutch so that gets destroyed for no reason as well.

    • @dsmith5822
      @dsmith5822 7 місяців тому +12

      The right way, the wrong way, and the German way.

    • @BenState
      @BenState 7 місяців тому +3

      They're fine if you follow Elsawin, keep the oil changes. Pretty basic really. Worked on multiple engines over a period of 15 years. My wifes Octavia has 160K miles, still runs like new due to the fact that I have kept the maintenance up. Only thing replaced was battery and water pump.

    • @nomagic-t1l
      @nomagic-t1l 7 місяців тому +1

      My daily is a '68 beetle. Awesome car, super easy and cheap to work on. Pretty much have done everything which isn't saying much, there really isn't anything to do. Can say I can pull the engine and put it back in, in less time than it takes to change and bleed the brake master cylinder. Geez what a PITA. I know you weren't going all the way back to the date with your comment, but if you want a solid, easy car to maintain, those fit the bill.

    • @AS-fm6iw
      @AS-fm6iw 7 місяців тому

      @@nomagic-t1l old German tech is amazing its all the newer things that went down a steep hill. I recently had a 1992 mercedes 420 and it was a tank with 180k miles all original and running like new

  • @aeroman5239
    @aeroman5239 7 місяців тому +10

    How about a collaboration with @VAG Technic? Just box up the parts and send it to them for a rebuild. It seems they are always tearing-down engines, and this one would a good replacement for anyone that has blown up a 2017+ 3.0 TFSI.

  • @MichealMireles
    @MichealMireles 7 місяців тому +3

    “ I have created a Situation……” my new life motto! I need a T shirt that’s says this…..

  • @Smasher-Devourer
    @Smasher-Devourer 7 місяців тому +33

    It just kills me how people buy a brand new car, rag on it, tune it, and beat on it some more, (and its still in the break in period) and then imagine their surprise when it blows up.
    My first brand new car: 2023 Ford F150 5.0, for the first 2,000 miles, I babied it. I'm at 9,000 miles, 1 oil change in, about to do a 2nd oil change, still haven't tuned it or done any engine mods... Why? Because I like my warranty.

    • @wilson2455
      @wilson2455 7 місяців тому

      car could have been stolen then thrashed? Car thieves tend not to care if a coolant hose blows..

    • @paleghost
      @paleghost 7 місяців тому +11

      @@wilson2455 The insurance company would have totaled it, paid out to the owner and the car would be in COPART lot..

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads 7 місяців тому +5

      Yep. I have a kia cerato GT. Lotta guys do a flash tune, turn up the boost etc. As soon as they get the car new. Like you i like my 7 year new car warranty..

    • @russelbrown6275
      @russelbrown6275 7 місяців тому

      All of my new Ford trucks I have babies until 30k then all the mods come out and no problems.

    • @russelbrown6275
      @russelbrown6275 7 місяців тому

      ⁠police report would have been generated

  • @claudgurr431
    @claudgurr431 7 місяців тому +59

    The more I watch modern engines being torn down, the more I love my Buick 3800.

    • @TheInsultInvestor
      @TheInsultInvestor 7 місяців тому +1

      ok external pil pump boy

    • @knight2425
      @knight2425 7 місяців тому +1

      And then we drive a modern day car and hate the Buick 😂😂😂

    • @melissasmess2773
      @melissasmess2773 7 місяців тому

      I got the Oldsmobile 3.5, most powerful engine used in a W chassis. Very good engine.

    • @skeetrix5577
      @skeetrix5577 7 місяців тому +1

      man, I had the 3800 in my first car, a 06 regal. the fucking car fell apart around me, but I was able to drive it to the junkyard under its own power and even the day she went had just as powerful of a motor as ever. I had just hydroplaned into the wall on the highway and fucked the front end, so it was toast even though I still drive it with no front bumper and a bent bumper bar and missing a headlight for 4 or 5 months after that. lol. good times being 16 years old. but that 3800 will always hold a special place in my heart

  • @toptop5229
    @toptop5229 5 місяців тому +2

    I had a dodge dakota 3.9l V6, radiator went while I was on the highway, after getting to a safe spot the engine locked up, it wouldn't even crank when I turned the key. Had it towed, put a new radiator in it, and it was good to go. Ran fine, no lost coolant. Thing was a tank.

  • @jeffreyweinzierl1509
    @jeffreyweinzierl1509 7 місяців тому +97

    When you pulled the oil pump drive cover, it looked like someone gambled on a Taco Bell fart....and lost.

    • @garthmuir6023
      @garthmuir6023 7 місяців тому +2

      😂😂😂😂💩

    • @cyronader
      @cyronader 7 місяців тому +1

      i always lose on that gamble lol

    • @gwhizz44
      @gwhizz44 7 місяців тому

      Bahahaha! Run not the runs from Audi's.

    • @Orcinus1967
      @Orcinus1967 7 місяців тому

      LOLOL

  • @frankdudek6242
    @frankdudek6242 7 місяців тому +87

    You are approaching owning Saturday evening the way the NFL owns Sundays

    • @rleger123
      @rleger123 7 місяців тому +5

      Cause Saturday night's the night I like
      Saturday night's alright alright alright

    • @Jihadbearzwithgunz
      @Jihadbearzwithgunz 7 місяців тому +1

      Even though the nfl is just sports entertainment now days everything planned like wwe and aew wrestling

    • @peacefrog0521
      @peacefrog0521 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Jihadbearzwithgunz
      Friday Night Smackdown…meet Saturday Night Teardown.

    • @KamalasVACANTwomb
      @KamalasVACANTwomb 2 місяці тому

      Or you can get a life instead of watching the nfl who thinks you’re an alcholic mouth breather🤷‍♂️

  • @rakata40
    @rakata40 13 днів тому +1

    I have no idea why UA-cam recommended me this video, oddly satisfying to watch/listen to while I was gaming...
    thanks I guess lol

  • @razter6678
    @razter6678 7 місяців тому +27

    If I had to guess, they probably modded the engine in some way. VAG are very much sticklers about modding and warranties. You mod it, you void it. Could also be what caused the gasket failure.

    • @Confirm_selection
      @Confirm_selection 7 місяців тому +4

      Any dealer would deny if a tune shows up.

    • @greeneyesms
      @greeneyesms 7 місяців тому +7

      @@Confirm_selection I work for a Kia dealer. After the bad publicity from recent engine problems, Kia replaced an engine that was tuned, simply to avoid the arguments. We felt it was just encouraging bad behavior, but it wasn't our decision. We got the warranty income, of course.

    • @Rock-Bottem1982
      @Rock-Bottem1982 7 місяців тому +3

      Lmao. Kia is a far cry from Audi my friend. ​@@greeneyesms

    • @emmexfyv
      @emmexfyv 7 місяців тому

      @@greeneyesms The 2.4L n/a engines are the crappy ones. No chance someone tried tuning one of those--

  • @amblyo2706
    @amblyo2706 7 місяців тому +12

    speaking on mounting the engine to a stand, all cwgd engines taken out are normally held on with chains on an engine hoist. That is the purpose of the black hook receivers on the heads, and is what is used at my dealership. Thank you for the great content and tearing down of this audi engine, I normally see these having sparkles in the oil as little as 5k miles so sooner or later I hoped to see you tear one down.

    • @jaredbawden6707
      @jaredbawden6707 7 місяців тому +1

      You don't really want to be half pulling apart an engine on a hoist, though. That's asking for trouble.

    • @PaulLorenzini-ny2yw
      @PaulLorenzini-ny2yw 7 місяців тому

      Terribly sorry to hear you have to fix things like that.

  • @sameerpandya1947
    @sameerpandya1947 7 місяців тому

    Thanks!

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  7 місяців тому

      Thank you! Hope you enjoyed it!

  • @brettster3331
    @brettster3331 7 місяців тому +6

    Hi Eric, this is so exciting to see, the way the camshafts are mounted etc. I would really like to hear the story on this engine.

  • @richm896
    @richm896 7 місяців тому +11

    "Oh your valve cover is leaking..... We would need to pull the engine because the transmission is in the way of the timing chain that's connected to the cams that are encased in the valve cover.... $7,000 please."
    .

  • @MrSnoots
    @MrSnoots 7 місяців тому +2

    Just bought a souvenir from this one! Something to remind me to take care of my 2024 EA839

  • @bassmanbn
    @bassmanbn 7 місяців тому +18

    Oh my goodness, the engine puke at 35.50 is a thing for horror movies. LOL. Great teardown this week.

    • @Trendyflute
      @Trendyflute 7 місяців тому +1

      I was just a few bites into my dinner when that happened and it nearly put me off my whole meal!!

    • @TheLumberJacked
      @TheLumberJacked 6 місяців тому

      I’m just watching now and just about there. Now I’m really curious!

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 7 місяців тому +8

    Wow, that's a very impressive engine! I've heard they are reliable, but seeing the design, I can understand a bit better why they are good.
    Obviously the owner bought a bad tune. And of course the tuner will take no responsibility for blowing the engine.

  • @greathornedowl3644
    @greathornedowl3644 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the great descriptive review. On the table, with you pointing it out, I recognize things. Under the hood, covered in plastic, not so much. WOW no specialized tools - no Timing Belt Cover Puller for Audi 3.0 (2019-2022)

  • @chuckz28
    @chuckz28 7 місяців тому +50

    Moral of the story. Dont mess with the tune, or boost if you cant afford to replace a 30k dollar engine.

    • @guthrie_1
      @guthrie_1 7 місяців тому +3

      Did he say the failure was a result of modification?

    • @hunterlacy2320
      @hunterlacy2320 7 місяців тому +8

      @@guthrie_1 as a euro tech, warranty kicked it for one of two reasons, one, the car overheated and the customer (ignoring warning lights) drove until the car shut off. or option two, it had an aftermarket tune on the car, either situation would have resulted in audi denying the warranty. saw it happen at bmw with a m340i with a stage one flash tune, car lost compression and bmw kicked the claim, customer paid out of pocket for repairs.

    • @ThorDyrden
      @ThorDyrden 7 місяців тому +1

      @@guthrie_1 in deed tuned turbo-pressure and messing with the ecu also was the first possible reason, which came to my mind seeing the damage and getting the fact, that warranty was denied.

    • @pb7379-j2k
      @pb7379-j2k 7 місяців тому +1

      @@guthrie_1 He said a coolant line burst that was unrelated to a manufacturing defect, so I'm going to go with "yes" unless a squirrel ate through it or something

    • @guthrie_1
      @guthrie_1 7 місяців тому +2

      @@pb7379-j2k yeah I’m not aware of any bolt on modification that causes coolant lines to burst.

  • @CalculatedRiskAK
    @CalculatedRiskAK 7 місяців тому +44

    Honestly the cams/valve cover being an assembly is pretty neat.

    • @buttsexandbananapeels
      @buttsexandbananapeels 7 місяців тому

      Agreed.
      And then they put the timing system in the rear of the engine…
      Germans.

    • @salninethousand2496
      @salninethousand2496 7 місяців тому +2

      Especially no bearings - just using the cap and valve cover housings as the bearing material.

    • @1djbecker
      @1djbecker 7 місяців тому +3

      @@salninethousand2496 Bare aluminum used as cam bearings has been common for decades. It is reliable and long lasting as long as there is at least some oil flow and the oil is well filtered. Anything the oil will chew up the aluminum casting on the way through.
      The difference here is that the larger casting is used to resist the primary forces rather than cam caps. That might result in less flex, which could improve longevity, or a lighter assembly.
      There isn't any argument about wear on the more expensive larger casting vs cam caps. Cam carriers are line bored. Wearing out the bearing surface on either side means that the whole assembly is trash.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 7 місяців тому

      ​@@1djbeckerBut then you can replace just the carrier instead of the whole head.

    • @1djbecker
      @1djbecker 7 місяців тому

      @@802Garage There are plenty of engines where the cam carrier is not part of the head casting. The primary reason is usually machining geometry, but it allows using an alloy with improved wear resistance.

  • @jimpeoples7217
    @jimpeoples7217 5 місяців тому +1

    very fun to watch - old aircraft mechanic, worked on metric airplanes half the time USAF the other. an engine i would typically work on is the 4360 engine on the Shakey aircraft. big cargo 4 engine C-124 Globemaster II transport.

  • @cameronworthington800
    @cameronworthington800 7 місяців тому +5

    As someone who drives a '96 Tacoma 2.4L 2wd I'm always looking for parts due to extreme rust. Though I love the fact that my grandpa, who had the truck before me, installed a supercharger kit on it. It is so much fun as I'm still continuing to add different things to it. I would love to see either of the two four cylinder (2.4 2rz-fe or 2.7 3rz-fe) 1st gen Tacoma engines torn down.

  • @MDBenson
    @MDBenson 7 місяців тому +8

    Eric... Eric... how many times have you drained an engine because you didn't want to turn it upside down with all that in it and make a mess. And here you are proving yourself 100% correct. 😂😂
    Thanks for the video, this was a fascinating look into modern engine design. Even the Main caps were lightened. A lot of people will probably have bad things to say about modern VWAG cars and engines but the quality of the parts in that engine were really apparent. Unfortunately, you probably can't see any of it when it's in the car as it's buried under 8 miles of hoses and wiring.

  • @OKHotrodder4u
    @OKHotrodder4u 6 місяців тому +2

    I just replaced a chrysler 3.6 pentastar because the warranty was denied. The '22 Ram sat at the dealer for 2 or 3 months before they said chrysler denied the claim. The 3.6 threw a rod and locked up on the highway. The owner told me the dealer did the oil change the first 30k miles, and then he had receipts for four other oil changes. It had 45k miles on it. Chrysler claims 60k drivetrain warranty. Guess they can deny for whatever reason which they gave "lack of maintenance" as the reason. He ended up buying a salvage 90k mile engine, and it's back on the road.
    The dealer quoted $15k to replace the engine. The supplier I use said $6500 on a new longblock. After the salvage engine and labor, along with new water pump, fluids, etc, it cost him $5300. But, it shouldn't have cost him a thing.

  • @wwjoshdew
    @wwjoshdew 7 місяців тому +14

    43:40 I freaking SNORTED. Loudly. Then rewound, to hear it again. Love your channel bro.

    • @thecatofnineswords
      @thecatofnineswords 7 місяців тому +1

      I expect boring jokes from the machinists, not the mechanics

  • @Charly_Dont_Surf
    @Charly_Dont_Surf 7 місяців тому +162

    You know there’s a german engineer watching this yelling nine ! Nine! Not that way!

    • @andrewstewart2741
      @andrewstewart2741 7 місяців тому

      Oh mein lieber Schweinehund, du hast keinen Respekt vor feinster deutscher Technik! Das war mein bester Entwurf.

    • @GSSurry
      @GSSurry 7 місяців тому +40

      Correction NEIN

    • @dbcooper4375
      @dbcooper4375 7 місяців тому +22

      I'm picturing one of those "Hitler finds out" clips

    • @theboz1419
      @theboz1419 7 місяців тому +15

      It's Nein, Nein, Nein, lol

    • @nissan300ztt
      @nissan300ztt 7 місяців тому +12

      Remember if its German Engineers its over engineered garbage! Just look at German tanks in WW2. Yeah they were awesome, when they werent broke down. German tanks werent designed to be field repaired. Shermans were.

  • @mohammadhayatca3244
    @mohammadhayatca3244 7 місяців тому +1

    First one but not the last. Unfortunately an expensive mistake. A bonanza in parts sales for u. I am happy for u. I have to admire your work ethic. Keep uploading thanks.
    German cars and preventative maintenance go in hand.

  • @user-lr3rn9oi5n
    @user-lr3rn9oi5n 7 місяців тому +13

    Lemon Jam on the top end...I lost it!

  • @briancox2721
    @briancox2721 7 місяців тому +13

    All together now: the forbidden milkshake brings all the engines to the yard...

  • @jovanvidric6279
    @jovanvidric6279 6 місяців тому +1

    How long did it take to make this excellent video. It was worth. I enjoyed every minute of it. Thanks.

  • @MrNoneofthisisreal
    @MrNoneofthisisreal 7 місяців тому +35

    I knew I was outgunned when the service writer at the Porsche/Audi dealership made me feel inadequate for not paying $1,100 for an oil change! Thank you for listening. I feel better now. R

    • @azi6477
      @azi6477 7 місяців тому +10

      Learn how to do a service yourself. A complete service with oil + oil filter, air filter, fuel filter and cabin filter will cost about 450 to 500 on materials. Or find a good mechanic that will do it for a reasonable price. Even the reset after the service can be done without diagnostic tools moost time. These German cars (BMW, Audi, Porsche, Marceders) are critical for service because they have extreme tight tolerances and high power output to displacement. where you can be lazy with air, fuel and cabin filters your oil service should not be neglected, better to soon than to late. Also the engine must be used calmly until it is at temperature (90deg celsius) before you squeeze out all the power. If you do that your engine will not end up on this channel.

    • @Confirm_selection
      @Confirm_selection 7 місяців тому +3

      If you signed the estimate with "R" I'd overcharge you as well 😆

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 7 місяців тому

      jeez what vehicle?

    • @bobcoats2708
      @bobcoats2708 7 місяців тому

      @@azi6477$500 worth of filters? Holy cow!

    • @rewing4880
      @rewing4880 7 місяців тому +2

      Just had a oil changed on my VW at Vavoline. Psst. the 1.8 TSI engine is the same engine as in an Audi TT. Cost $125 which I thought was high. Only thing I get VW to service is Trans fluid changes. Last one I had done cost about $240. Valvoline don't drop the drain plug to drain the oil, , they suck the oil out of the dip stick tube. At least they don't forget to tighten the drain plug that way. Cheers.

  • @cc9z
    @cc9z 7 місяців тому +78

    the days of telling your 16 year old son go fix his car is over

    • @scottgreenway9963
      @scottgreenway9963 7 місяців тому +5

      My 16 year old son's first car would never have been an Audi. It would have been with money he earned.

    • @nissan300ztt
      @nissan300ztt 7 місяців тому +10

      Only if you buy modern. My friend Sam and I can swap out an LS motor from a silverado in 2 hours flat if we wanted. Weve done an LS swap with 4 guys in about 40 minutes. Modern engines are overly complex with BS valve timing. Its all a gimmick.

    • @styx85
      @styx85 7 місяців тому +4

      You don't have to buy your 16 year old son a brand new Audi S5 you know.

    • @Large_Sarge
      @Large_Sarge 7 місяців тому +3

      If you look at the used car market, prices or skyrocketing. I know this has a lot of factors including the economy. Yet, you're going to start seeing more more people keeping older vehicles going. I have a 2005 Yukon that I just put a 60,000 mi 5'3 in. I'm slowly repairing everything on it because they just don't make them like that anymore. I'm sure every generation says this though so I guess we'll see.

    • @TheUweRoss
      @TheUweRoss 7 місяців тому +4

      @@nissan300ztt It's been forced on the manufacturers by emissions & fuel economy regulations.

  • @DamienMalakay
    @DamienMalakay 9 днів тому

    something so satisfying about watching an engine rebuild! you're doing God's work!!!

  • @Pat_Fenis69
    @Pat_Fenis69 7 місяців тому +8

    I’m a tech at Audi and we recently had an S5 in the shop (maybe like three months ago) anyways it had 1800 miles on it and had a bad knock. Low compression in like 4 and 5 or something. Metal in the oil filter. Anyways it was tuned so warranty was denied. I’m kind of wondering if this is the engine. Came from Raleigh, NC.

  • @WalkiTalki
    @WalkiTalki 7 місяців тому +11

    I had an 01 2.8ltr wagon that had 295K miles. I took it in for all oil changes and maintenance to the dealer I bought it from. They had these weird locking coolant hoses and at the last visit they didn't make sure to push the lower hose all the way on the radiator. After it stalled just a couple of blocks away, I had it towed back to the dealer. They refunded 200 of my 2500 dollar bill and told me I would have to sue to get the rest back because the car had so many miles that it wouldn't have run much longer anyway. The scrapper gave me another 250 for the car and Audi has lost a customer for life. These engines do not survive an overheat.

    • @TheOwlGuy777
      @TheOwlGuy777 7 місяців тому +4

      You SHOULD have sued them. Always call their bluff with three estimates higher than theirs plus legal expenses. They would have lost and you would have gotten paid.

    • @mattbergseid9196
      @mattbergseid9196 7 місяців тому

      Sounds like you blamed the manufacturer for the dealers mistake....

    • @rhyoliteaquacade
      @rhyoliteaquacade 7 місяців тому

      I would have sued. Why else would someone sink $2500 but to enjoy it another 50K miles.

  • @Jeff_Seely
    @Jeff_Seely 6 місяців тому +2

    Wow. I'd be sick to be in that situation and I feel bad for the owner. This motor has to be among the most beautiful factory motors around.

  • @bilphil74
    @bilphil74 7 місяців тому +12

    I would love to see you tear down a 2.4 SRT4 that came in the 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT with the aluminum intake. If you can get your hands on one. Great video as usual.

    • @emmexfyv
      @emmexfyv 7 місяців тому

      Had one brand new and used to smoke unsuspecting Mustangs LOL

  • @ryantornai945
    @ryantornai945 7 місяців тому +20

    I really thought you were gonna leave those guides alone lol

  • @AyeCarumba221
    @AyeCarumba221 29 днів тому +2

    If I may humbly offer, you ought to buy what I call a spatula. A heavy bladed 3” wide super putty knife. I think that would be the ticket for loosening tough gasket sealer. Good for prying loose all kinds of things. Using your crow bar seems like a bad idea.

  • @theprobeius
    @theprobeius 7 місяців тому +11

    Eric: "You guys thought I was gonna throw that?"
    Me: "Yes, 100%, no questions asked, definitely, absolutely."

  • @kitsuneneko2567
    @kitsuneneko2567 7 місяців тому +5

    How do you rupture a coolant line that soon?

    • @cardinaloflannagancr8929
      @cardinaloflannagancr8929 7 місяців тому +4

      Yeah something seems off how could a new car burst a line without it being a manufacturer defect. Sounds like the owner did something wrong and just expected the warranty covered it if within the warranty term.

    • @riccocool
      @riccocool 7 місяців тому

      Drained the coolant and went for a drive.

    • @christopherweise438
      @christopherweise438 7 місяців тому

      Ran over something, flipped it up, and cut the hose would be my guess.

  • @Bob_Adkins
    @Bob_Adkins 7 місяців тому +4

    In other parts of the world, this engine would have been fixed in 2-3 days without changing major parts and been as good as ever.

  • @richardgraham1167
    @richardgraham1167 7 місяців тому +17

    Beautifully engineered modern engine. This was a great teardown! Very leaky mess, though.

    • @PaulLorenzini-ny2yw
      @PaulLorenzini-ny2yw 7 місяців тому +2

      Engineered to be thrown away when it breaks, pure genius.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 7 місяців тому +8

      @@PaulLorenzini-ny2yw Some people are simply unable to accept an engine is good if it isn't some pushrod dinosaur.

    • @knight2425
      @knight2425 7 місяців тому +3

      These aren’t engineered to be thrown away but engineered to take a hammering and be fine, you can track an Audi S or RS engine safely all day unless it’s modified which you wouldn’t want to do with most American engines

    • @johnsmith7676
      @johnsmith7676 7 місяців тому +3

      @@ferrumignis Ask any Audi dealer mechanic about these engines and they'll tell you that they actually fail quite frequently. They are NOT "good" engines. But if you want to pretend all this overcomplicated, absurdly-overpriced garbage somehow actually benefits humanity -- and you, too -- then so be it.
      ...But it won't end well. .. Not for you, nor for anyone else, either.

  • @harrycee656
    @harrycee656 7 місяців тому +13

    That timing system uses only 2 short chains. Audi, you losing your touch. Didn't the last version had 3 or 4 chains with with miles of chain. 😂
    This is a well built engine. Lots of improvements. That bottom end is impressive strong design. One step short of those caps being part of the block.

  • @chetmyers7041
    @chetmyers7041 26 днів тому

    15:50 Why does it need a vacuum pump? To power brake booster? 27:15 Good access to the water pump and T-stat.

  • @Rusty-METAL-J
    @Rusty-METAL-J 7 місяців тому +7

    The cams with the lobes that are grooved is an awesome piece of engineering.

    • @Graham_Langley
      @Graham_Langley 7 місяців тому +1

      I'd have liked a better looh at them - they are clearly slid along the shaft to switch between the two profiles.

  • @jutto64
    @jutto64 7 місяців тому +16

    Surprised the engine management system didn't de-power or stop the engine before it got so hot? Did the driver not read the dash warning information?

    • @Billy97ify
      @Billy97ify 7 місяців тому +2

      Some of the temperature sensors don't read if there is no water in the coolant pipes. Even so, they do have a low coolant sensor too.

    • @drp457
      @drp457 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Billy97ify And they didn't notice the plumes of white smoke out of the exhaust?

    • @Billy97ify
      @Billy97ify 7 місяців тому +2

      @@drp457 Too late then.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 7 місяців тому +2

      This was a tuned engine. Very possible they were on a speed run and at high engine speeds. There was minimal damage so most likely he drove it back hoping it would be ok. lol

    • @knight2425
      @knight2425 7 місяців тому +2

      They have oil temp sensors so it would more than likely have had warning lights on, I suspect it ran in limp mode for a little while and then shut off hence why it looks like it didn’t run for long like that

  • @Nitrox4me
    @Nitrox4me 6 місяців тому +4

    From my 35 years in the imported auto service business, including 20 years in my own shop, I am amazed at the technological changes and efficiencies of today's engines..

    • @williamfied9500
      @williamfied9500 3 місяці тому

      That multi lift cam and cast-in trumpets was cool

  • @patrickgroebner1909
    @patrickgroebner1909 7 місяців тому +5

    I have a 2021 Porsche Macan GTS with a some kind of Audi turbo V6. A couple of months ago I picked a rock that smacked the radiator and broke a coolant line. As soon as I noticed warnings and fume coming out from the hood I stopped and had the car towed in. Lucky nothing bad happened, the radiator was replaced and all is good. And it wasn't covered under warranty just like this guy but my comprehensive part less deductible covered the repair. In these modern high performance cars you have to take fluid leaks seriously.

  • @porscheguy09
    @porscheguy09 7 місяців тому +8

    Glad to see that Audi is still making DIY maintenance as difficult as possible for the owners by doing brilliant things like locating the timing chain at the back of the engine requiring an engine out service/repair. BMW and Mercedes aren’t any better and have their share of messed up designs on what should be simple designs. A $5 gasket costing $1200 in labor to replace at the dealer is something Audi, BMW and Mercedes probably all have in common.

    • @VolodymyrTorkalo
      @VolodymyrTorkalo 4 місяці тому

      So what? Chain anyway is for whole lifetime of engine. On my mazda 6 chain has already 200k km and no problems. Audi is high performance car, of course it's tightly packed under the hood to fit such big and powerfull engine

  • @Lee137able
    @Lee137able 6 місяців тому +2

    Great video. Enjoyed it very much. I spent 18 years working on German cars at both Dealerships and Independents. When customers asked me why they cost so much to repair I remind them they lost the war and are still upset about it.

  • @tally5k339
    @tally5k339 7 місяців тому +13

    It feels weird looking at such a fresh engine being torn down
    Edit: yeah those weird looking intake cams are variable lift. It's called AVS: Audi Valvelift System. Have the same arrangement on the exhaust side in my mk7 GTI

    • @HappyHarryHardon
      @HappyHarryHardon 7 місяців тому +3

      I’m going to miss the DSG in my MkV but I’m stuffing 500hp worth of LS in the front with a 6 speed and making it rear drive. My perfect roller skate.

    • @tally5k339
      @tally5k339 7 місяців тому

      @@HappyHarryHardon as good as the DSG is, an LS swapped rear drive mk5 is gonna be a whole lot cooler. Reminds me of the Artz 928 with the stretched mk1 body