Great tip on the “once over” policy! I learned this the hard way when I got into large scale cars. A couple loose hexes or nuts can cause a shitload of damage. And on a plane or a boat you could REALLY be screwed!
Absolutely. It really applies to anything mechanical. I cannot tell you how many times I saw as a mechanic things that cost people thousands of dollars which would have been either a cheap or free fix if they had just been paying attention to it.
I’m definitely getting one of these!! This is an awesome truck in my opinion for building up from stock, especially for the price. Awesome video as always!!! 🤘🏻
Pretty funny The Eco power servo you're using I think is the exact same Eco power servo I'm using I went to my local hobby shop and picked up a new servo rather than waiting for a week for a new one to come in. Now I'll have 2
I have been learning about these red cat $300 trucks and they seem ti be a great platform..i like the blue truggy version..i think they are basically the same ,just different wheels and body...great tear down review.
Yes they are essentially the same vehicle underneath. These are definitely good trucks but like I said in the video they aren't precision bashers or anything like that. They're great for banging around but don't handle the best. Overall for the price I think they're really good though.
I wouldn't say it's a fully new idea. I take a lot of inspiration from the old ultimate RC videos with my own twist of course. I do like to be able to provide information that no one else is though :)
@DoRC be humble all you want, I watched Jang since the beginning, you're a whole new thing. And largely why I started a channel myself. Doesn't compare.
@DoRC thats funny! I told you several times that you're one of the best rc tubers out there and now you mention jang who had the best rc content period. I think his aproach is still the template for a very successful channel. Very unfortunate that he will never come back to rc! I still watch his videos occasionally for old times sake.
@@AsurasWrath164I do too. I just had a binge session a couple weeks ago. Anytime I feel like I'm straying away from how I want the channel to be I go back and watch some of his videos. I don't think his style would work exactly anymore just because of the way things have changed but he definitely made good content.
I got mine today. Already ran 3packs thru it. Front shocks seem to be a little heavy. Doesn’t really rebound back the way it should. Other than that I beat the hell out of mine out in *100+ temps. She held up really nicely. I should probably see which ones came on mine. Man U we’re getting crazy rotation with those bigger tires there. I need to post some videos.
I think it has less to do with the shocks and more to do with things binding. The suspension isn't super free and it tends to bind up if it gets a little dirt in it. It'll probably loosen up over time as things kind of wear in though.
What a difference 6s makes. It reminds me of what I did to my Team corally skeeter. It was fun on 4s but put a 150a 6s esc in it and it's a totally different animal! But unlike the skeeter this truck seems pretty decent on 4s power. 6s might be a bit overkill but still looked like fun!
About those shocks ,if your in a pinch or just dont want to buy new shocks ,you can rough up the shaft on the end and use urethane adhesive such as 3m 5200 its a marine adhesive, get the fast dry its got a red band but still takes 3 days I think to fully dry ,the standard 5200 takes a week , also window weld only 1-2 days or even construction polyurethane selant for roofs etc. You will likely never get the shock back apart without cutting it or soaking it in aceatone. You might even get away with shoo goo temporarily but not sure it will hold long term also must dry 24 hrs
I did try epoxying one of them on the wov racing truck and it didn't last very long. Even roughing it up there just isn't a lot of surface area and it's hard to find an epoxy that works well with both steel and nylon.
Hey bro. I appreciate the effort you put into this. I saw your losi losernut review and that was so good and realistic. Then I checked out more and you know what, compared to the other guys who may praise or may not a particular brand. You are very realistic about it. And your indepth videos suit someone like me who has to source rc by paying possibly 100% of what you guys pay retail.
Thanks I'm glad you enjoy. I try to be as objective and realistic as possible with my reviews and information. Of course we all have our biases but I try to not let mine color my opinion too much
Out of the box Yeah it probably would be but the DOA ESC is not a problem with the car so not really something I'm worried about. I've had dozens of hobbywing ESCs over the years and I think this is maybe the second one I've had that was DOA. It's just not that common of a thing.
@HolyCannolis I'm not sure. To be fair just plugging it in and turning it on would not have shown the problem. It only happened as soon as you tried to accelerate with the motor connected. So they might have done a power on test.
A slide rack for the steering is an unusual choice for any off-road vehicle, I remember when they used to be common on 1/10th onroad race cars and they were a pain as any stone jammed could and did sometimes ruin your race
Yeah I haven't had any problems with stones getting jammed in there but it definitely gets bound up with any kind of dirt and grit. I suspect over time as things wear in it'll probably get better but the only reason I can think they would have gone with this option to begin with is cost
How to hell do you get the pin off the driveshaft after removing that .5 grub.?? I couldn’t get it to budge. Mine was shimmed way too tight on the rear diff.. Drivetrain was super loud.
@@brsrc759 in my experience at least there's no good way to do that. Maybe if you were bashing and gravel but the type of sand I bashing gets pretty much everywhere no matter what you do.
No I don't think so. It's not really a problem with the servo. The servo's plenty powerful enough until stuff gets caught up in the rack. Once that happens though it just doesn't have the jam. The Eco power 120 is a pretty powerful servo.
10:13 That shock shaft just not going to last. I don't understand why just not replace them with threaded ones before shipping the RC. Cos after those breaks it will be a warranty issue with a part replacement.
Such a great video, thank you! I think I'll just keep playing with my +$40 Rival MT10, and let Redcat sort out their poor suspension design choices for now.
The MT-10 definitely is a proven platform but I wouldn't necessarily say the two are in competition with each other. This is a fair amount bigger and is more like the Traxxas Max or Arrma Kraton outcast 4s
Its the same with the Maxx... they sell it as 4s "beginner model" but its heavy and on 6s it starts to get 10x better than on 6s... get yourself a Max8 G2 2250Kv, run 23/50 Stock gearing... you will not regret it❤
I think it depends on what your goals are. The 4S max is pretty decently powerful right out of the box. I think if you're used to insane power it might feel weak but especially for beginners I think it's got plenty of power without upgrading.
So the issue with dirt build up on the steering rack, do you think a dry lubricant would help? Also like you showed the ball end on the shock too with dirt build up, some dry lubricant might help? I don’t know. Just asking.
Not sure. If it's a true dry lubricant that does not attract any additional debris then I don't see why it would hurt but I don't really think the problem is a lack of lubrication the problem is that the debris gets in there and physically binds things up so I'm not sure it would help either. That being said give it a try and let me know!
@@DoRC man, your by far the best informative rc channel. You and kev talbot that are the only channels that I watch every video uploaded, keep up the good work DoRc :)
It is possible but I'm usually pretty careful and I've been doing this for over 20 years so generally speaking I don't think any of the things that I find are things that I have caused. In this particular vehicle the steering got jammed up before I took the front end apart, the ESC was dead the from the very first time I turned it on and the shock issue is a known problem from the Wov racing cars. Definitely is something to consider though.
Not sure. I got one that was threaded and I've had a report of one other person saying that all four of theirs were threaded. I doubt I'm the only one that got the press in shocks on mine so it's probably going to be a mixed bag at least in the beginning.
@@DoRC well once i have it i will report back to you about mine have you contacted redcat or have you looked at the parts list to see if they offer one or the other or both styles
@@RC4us I looked at the parts list and they only show one part number for the shocks and shock shafts. I did email my contact at redcat about it but haven't heard anything back.
@@DoRC i was just looking i didnt realize front and rear shocks were the same length but being 130mm theirs so in my opinion good options id say the armma 4s and even some 6s will work.... also saw part# RER32504 looks like you can use any hex instead of that splined one it comes with....
Can’t believe they threw in the 3 crappy shocks 🤦🏼♂️ Guess they had to get rid of them some how 🤷🏼♂️ I’d think it would be pretty easy for them to fix the defective rod ends?
So, um, yup. @RedcatRacing I got both the Valkyries yesterday and I took the shocks apart. Only the left rear were threaded, the other three being clip style. While I am not the hardest basher at the park, it does however concern me.
I was thinking about getting one, but the steering might be a deal breaker. Not the scrub but all the dirt getting in there and on the rack. And I don't see an upgrade for it.
I'm not sure. I think the Wov servo is stronger So it is able to overcome the problem more easily. After installing the Eco power servo I didn't really notice the problem during bashing though it does feel crunchy when moving it by hand.
Not quite. The bullets on the motor are 4 mm and they are 6.5 mm on the ESC. You will either need to change the bullets on the motor or get some adapters.
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Just a better servo. The Amazon special $25 35 kg servo is not 35 kg. It's not the weakest servo in the world but it's far from the strongest. Put a power hobby 729 in there and bask in the goodness :-)
From what I understand they all should be but the manufacturer messed up. My guess is that they originally made the shocks the clip-on style like the Wov racing but changed it for the same reason it was changed on the wov cars. Sounds like they had a bunch of stock of the other ones and just either decided to use them or uses them on accident.
Speaking of things getting into wheel hex area and shredding bearings up, i had that happen when i ran over some jewelry wire. Speaking of shocks, i broke my first one last night. Stupid hidden plastic access grates hidden in stupid grass. Stupid me driving at night through said stupid grass.
Great video.....but that is not your advantage. Your main advantage Messier DO RC is the knowledge that you display, such as the " scrub radius ??????" - for which by the way I would personally like to see a small video about the whole distance.....thing and what defects does it have on the rc e.t.c. Also the video that you made on legal maters regarding patents and companies. So that really makes your channel stand out. Keep it up. P.S: Please don't forget to make an explanatory video regarding that ...radius !!!!!
That’s what I liked about wov rigs , the diffs were robust could get power to ground without worrying. 50 mph is perfect with power in reserve , just control and handling need to be addressed
I would say it depends on your budget. The max is a better car but it's obviously far more expensive. A good middle ground could be the outcast 4s V 2.5.
Can you make a video where you drive Awesome the whole way through the video? I wreck a lot with my RC cars like one out of every 10 jumps. I’ll do something crazy it’s not landing . I’m a little new to the channel. So at this point, I’m wondering like can this dude actually drive? You understand I’m sure this isn’t the first time you got this.👻👍🏼
It is far from the first time that I've been told I'm a bad driver. I'm not the best driver in the world but I have been bashing yearly every day for the last 20 years So when I want to land to jump I can. You're seeing a minute of about 30 minutes of bashing usually so you're kind of seeing what I want you to and usually I want people to see how these things handle crashes pretty much any modern RC can land jumps perfectly and survive It's what happens when they don't land perfectly that matters. Because of this I intentionally crash a lot. I do have a few videos I've done fairly recently where I only showed good landings just to prove to people that I can :-)
I'll tell you what though from experience if you reach out to redcat they will already have you new ones ship before they even reply to your email they are that good at customer service I had a problem with my servo on my machete first the servo one went out and the servo itself went out at the same time I just am too new to know it so they replaced my servo horn I emailed them about the servo and before they even replied they had already shipped me a new servo and then replied with the hey I'm shipping you a new servo they are really good
I agree. In my experience redcat has the best customer service in the industry right now. It's not that Traxxas or Horizon are bad it's just that red cat goes the extra mile
Same thing happens in my machete steering rack little rocks and debris get up in there and locks up really do not like this style of steering on these cars
Yeah I'm not really sure why they have it. It doesn't really provide any advantage over the standard style other than maybe cost for them and it gets bound up pretty easily. It's not a huge deal and with a strong enough servo you can kind of power through it but it is an inferior design in my opinion
@@DoRC I think so too.i have a high torque/volt servo on my machete and it's powers through it most of the time👍a least they didn't put that set up on the vigilante
Those wav tires, I think that's the name. Anyways those tires look like they really suck. MayB better on the vehicle thay came on. But on the RC looked like thay don't work.
Yeah they're okay. Honestly it's not really the tires that are to blame. The truck just doesn't handle that well. It's cheap pretty durable and fun but definitely not a precise instrument.
2:17 What a terrible design…🤦♂️ Plus how can the bearings turn ????? They are in contact on both opposite sides so……… The steering rack is just sliding on them without letting them rotating….. Plus the superior side of the steering rack is directly sliding against these 2 plastic bits….. What an overall terrible steering design 😑😑😑
I think the idea is that there is enough play between the bearings and the rack that they will either bear on one side or the other. Unfortunately when debris gets in there it kind of binds everything up. It still works but I don't think it's the best design.
@@DoRC Thank you A LOT for your great work, you’re the best American channel that I know, your testing protocol is very constant and professional (checking everything before testing the cars, disassembling the main parts to see how it’s made etc.) Plus always interesting upgrade videos too, following the review videos, this is perfect…👍 I’m very grateful. Big salut 🫡 from southeast coast France 🇫🇷 ViNZ.
Man, your videos are so good. Extremely well presented, with great breakdowns, great bashing footage, and pros and cons.
That's what I try to do! Glad you're enjoying :-)
Great tip on the “once over” policy! I learned this the hard way when I got into large scale cars. A couple loose hexes or nuts can cause a shitload of damage. And on a plane or a boat you could REALLY be screwed!
Absolutely. It really applies to anything mechanical. I cannot tell you how many times I saw as a mechanic things that cost people thousands of dollars which would have been either a cheap or free fix if they had just been paying attention to it.
I’m definitely getting one of these!! This is an awesome truck in my opinion for building up from stock, especially for the price. Awesome video as always!!! 🤘🏻
Glad you enjoy!
Pretty funny The Eco power servo you're using I think is the exact same Eco power servo I'm using I went to my local hobby shop and picked up a new servo rather than waiting for a week for a new one to come in. Now I'll have 2
It's a decent servo.
All mine are threaded, i really are enjoying this truck a lot . Cool content brother 😉👍🏽💯
Interesting! I wonder how many of the non-threaded ones made it out of the factory.
Interesting you have a red cat logo for your image😂
@@rcsmith5909 😜👍🏽
I have been learning about these red cat $300 trucks and they seem ti be a great platform..i like the blue truggy version..i think they are basically the same ,just different wheels and body...great tear down review.
Yes they are essentially the same vehicle underneath. These are definitely good trucks but like I said in the video they aren't precision bashers or anything like that. They're great for banging around but don't handle the best. Overall for the price I think they're really good though.
You're really creating a whole new type of rc UA-cam channel and I'm here for it! Can you share the OD of those wov tires? Thanks!
I wouldn't say it's a fully new idea. I take a lot of inspiration from the old ultimate RC videos with my own twist of course. I do like to be able to provide information that no one else is though :)
@DoRC be humble all you want, I watched Jang since the beginning, you're a whole new thing. And largely why I started a channel myself. Doesn't compare.
My favorite channel
@DoRC thats funny! I told you several times that you're one of the best rc tubers out there and now you mention jang who had the best rc content period. I think his aproach is still the template for a very successful channel.
Very unfortunate that he will never come back to rc! I still watch his videos occasionally for old times sake.
@@AsurasWrath164I do too. I just had a binge session a couple weeks ago. Anytime I feel like I'm straying away from how I want the channel to be I go back and watch some of his videos. I don't think his style would work exactly anymore just because of the way things have changed but he definitely made good content.
These vids are awesome . Thanks for taking the time to take them apart and do what ya do 👍👏
Thanks for watching :-)
I got mine today. Already ran 3packs thru it. Front shocks seem to be a little heavy. Doesn’t really rebound back the way it should. Other than that I beat the hell out of mine out in *100+ temps. She held up really nicely. I should probably see which ones came on mine. Man U we’re getting crazy rotation with those bigger tires there. I need to post some videos.
I think it has less to do with the shocks and more to do with things binding. The suspension isn't super free and it tends to bind up if it gets a little dirt in it. It'll probably loosen up over time as things kind of wear in though.
What a difference 6s makes. It reminds me of what I did to my Team corally skeeter. It was fun on 4s but put a 150a 6s esc in it and it's a totally different animal! But unlike the skeeter this truck seems pretty decent on 4s power. 6s might be a bit overkill but still looked like fun!
Yeah for most people 6S will definitely be overkill but it is fun :-)
About those shocks ,if your in a pinch or just dont want to buy new shocks ,you can rough up the shaft on the end and use urethane adhesive such as 3m 5200 its a marine adhesive, get the fast dry its got a red band but still takes 3 days I think to fully dry ,the standard 5200 takes a week , also window weld only 1-2 days or even construction polyurethane selant for roofs etc. You will likely never get the shock back apart without cutting it or soaking it in aceatone. You might even get away with shoo goo temporarily but not sure it will hold long term also must dry 24 hrs
I did try epoxying one of them on the wov racing truck and it didn't last very long. Even roughing it up there just isn't a lot of surface area and it's hard to find an epoxy that works well with both steel and nylon.
this is the most informative RC channel. Subbed!
Glad you enjoy and thanks for the sub :)
Very strange shock situation 🤔 Seems like Redcat has a winner here. Cheap, durable truck 👍
Yeah I've heard they're working on the shock situation. Other than that for the price it's a lot of truck
The original tires remind me of the Proline Gladiator tire. I actually like that truck. Nice video.
If you look at the proline Badland MX tires you can see that the tread on them is essentially identical.
Hey bro. I appreciate the effort you put into this. I saw your losi losernut review and that was so good and realistic. Then I checked out more and you know what, compared to the other guys who may praise or may not a particular brand. You are very realistic about it. And your indepth videos suit someone like me who has to source rc by paying possibly 100% of what you guys pay retail.
Thanks I'm glad you enjoy. I try to be as objective and realistic as possible with my reviews and information. Of course we all have our biases but I try to not let mine color my opinion too much
I’d say the DOA esc is a bigger bummer than iffy shocks 🤷♂️ Amazing how that shock broke right on cue proving the weakness. Great review as always!!
Out of the box Yeah it probably would be but the DOA ESC is not a problem with the car so not really something I'm worried about. I've had dozens of hobbywing ESCs over the years and I think this is maybe the second one I've had that was DOA. It's just not that common of a thing.
@@DoRCThanks for the response!! I just thought they might plug a battery in at Redcat factory to check but maybe not 🤔
@HolyCannolis I'm not sure. To be fair just plugging it in and turning it on would not have shown the problem. It only happened as soon as you tried to accelerate with the motor connected. So they might have done a power on test.
the value is pretty great, even including the price of a set of shocks its still cheaper than a 3s stampede
Yeah it's hard to argue with the price.
A slide rack for the steering is an unusual choice for any off-road vehicle, I remember when they used to be common on 1/10th onroad race cars and they were a pain as any stone jammed could and did sometimes ruin your race
Yeah I haven't had any problems with stones getting jammed in there but it definitely gets bound up with any kind of dirt and grit. I suspect over time as things wear in it'll probably get better but the only reason I can think they would have gone with this option to begin with is cost
@@DoRC is there any upgrade that can resolve the issue?
This probably stupid but would rub it with sand paper to make it smoother help?
How to hell do you get the pin off the driveshaft after removing that
.5 grub.??
I couldn’t get it to budge.
Mine was shimmed way too tight on the rear diff..
Drivetrain was super loud.
I had to push mine out with a punch and hammer. The thread lock seized the pins together.
Your breakdowns are very useful to see in depth warnings and details on the car. Also, if you dont stand in front of the ramp, u dont have to dodge 🤕
Yeah but if I don't stand in front of the ramp I can't get the cool shots :-)
You could use graphite dust on the steering rack to keep it smooth. Unless of course actual rocks get jammed in it. But it should help.
Unfortunately It's debris actually jamming up the mechanism. I'm not sure that lubrication would help much.
@@DoRC ahhhh bummer. Maybe there's some way you can fill the gaps with felt or something else non-restrictive that won't let in debris?
@@brsrc759 in my experience at least there's no good way to do that. Maybe if you were bashing and gravel but the type of sand I bashing gets pretty much everywhere no matter what you do.
Wondering if the faulty ESC caused the servo to have issues? You can also turn up the BEC Voltage on the Hobbywing as well.
No I don't think so. It's not really a problem with the servo. The servo's plenty powerful enough until stuff gets caught up in the rack. Once that happens though it just doesn't have the jam. The Eco power 120 is a pretty powerful servo.
10:13 That shock shaft just not going to last. I don't understand why just not replace them with threaded ones before shipping the RC. Cos after those breaks it will be a warranty issue with a part replacement.
I don't have any actual answers but I suspect that they intended to ship them all with threaded shocks but it just didn't happen.
For $299, I can fix that shock issue easily! Awesome truck!
Yeah it's hard to beat for the price.
Awesome vid. I'm liking the redcat everyday, But still a little skeptical. thanks again, Have Fun
For the price I'd say give it a try. They're pretty decent and their customer support is on point if you have any problems.
Amazing it held up with your driving on 6s lol. Shock wise, Arrma 4s shocks try. Looks great it's a mini Kaiju!
If I had a set I would definitely give it a shot but I don't have a 4S arrma right now. I'm sure someone else will try it :-)
Another great review thanks 👍🤙
Glad you enjoyed thanks for watching!
Hehe! Your transitions are always very good! 👌😛
Thanks Glad you enjoy :-)
Great content as usual 👍🏻
Thank glad you enjoyed :-)
Such a great video, thank you! I think I'll just keep playing with my +$40 Rival MT10, and let Redcat sort out their poor suspension design choices for now.
The MT-10 definitely is a proven platform but I wouldn't necessarily say the two are in competition with each other. This is a fair amount bigger and is more like the Traxxas Max or Arrma Kraton outcast 4s
Dude, that was epic! 6s? seriously tho, your review is very informative
Got to push the limit :-)
Its the same with the Maxx... they sell it as 4s "beginner model" but its heavy and on 6s it starts to get 10x better than on 6s... get yourself a Max8 G2 2250Kv, run 23/50 Stock gearing... you will not regret it❤
I think it depends on what your goals are. The 4S max is pretty decently powerful right out of the box. I think if you're used to insane power it might feel weak but especially for beginners I think it's got plenty of power without upgrading.
So the issue with dirt build up on the steering rack, do you think a dry lubricant would help? Also like you showed the ball end on the shock too with dirt build up, some dry lubricant might help? I don’t know. Just asking.
Not sure. If it's a true dry lubricant that does not attract any additional debris then I don't see why it would hurt but I don't really think the problem is a lack of lubrication the problem is that the debris gets in there and physically binds things up so I'm not sure it would help either. That being said give it a try and let me know!
Dunno how many will get what im on about but what i got is after all that foolery you made a V1 Corally Dementor 😅
Pretty much :-)
Another excellent review👌
Thanks Glad you enjoyed :-)
I really want one of these cars. They seem amazing
Agreed and especially for the price they're selling for currently It's hard to beat
@@DoRC man, your by far the best informative rc channel. You and kev talbot that are the only channels that I watch every video uploaded, keep up the good work DoRc :)
In the end , can i know wich one is the best for durability for shocks? Treathed? Or clip?
The threaded shocks are far superior
Hello sir, is it possible that when you take things apart before you run the car that you could be causing it to be flawed when you drive it?
It is possible but I'm usually pretty careful and I've been doing this for over 20 years so generally speaking I don't think any of the things that I find are things that I have caused. In this particular vehicle the steering got jammed up before I took the front end apart, the ESC was dead the from the very first time I turned it on and the shock issue is a known problem from the Wov racing cars.
Definitely is something to consider though.
Once you put bigger tires eventually the diff’s are going to fail I had to learn the hard way😐But overall cool upgrades
How did yours fail specifically? Which tires are you using?
Im curious. Does the WOV Racing rc have the same steering binding issues as the Redcat?
I haven't really noticed it but the Wov servo is pretty powerful so it might just be overpowering the issue.
You do such a great job covering the details. It's always a pleasure to watch. 👍🏆
Thanks glad you enjoy it :-)
i got one of these coming im curious to these shocks really i wonder if all these will have mixed up like yours if they will all 4 be threaded
Not sure. I got one that was threaded and I've had a report of one other person saying that all four of theirs were threaded. I doubt I'm the only one that got the press in shocks on mine so it's probably going to be a mixed bag at least in the beginning.
@@DoRC well once i have it i will report back to you about mine have you contacted redcat or have you looked at the parts list to see if they offer one or the other or both styles
@@RC4us I looked at the parts list and they only show one part number for the shocks and shock shafts. I did email my contact at redcat about it but haven't heard anything back.
@@DoRC i was just looking i didnt realize front and rear shocks were the same length but being 130mm theirs so in my opinion good options id say the armma 4s and even some 6s will work.... also saw part# RER32504 looks like you can use any hex instead of that splined one it comes with....
@@RC4us I could be wrong but I think that number is for the differential outputs not for replacement stub axles.
can you fit a ezrun max 8 combo in 4s kraton without any triming?
I believe so yes.
Can’t believe they threw in the 3 crappy shocks 🤦🏼♂️ Guess they had to get rid of them some how 🤷🏼♂️ I’d think it would be pretty easy for them to fix the defective rod ends?
I got an email from redcat yesterday. They're sending out four brand new shocks of the proper type to everyone that bought one
@@DoRC That’s good to know 👍
So, um, yup. @RedcatRacing I got both the Valkyries yesterday and I took the shocks apart. Only the left rear were threaded, the other three being clip style. While I am not the hardest basher at the park, it does however concern me.
It'll probably be okay for normal stuff and I've heard they are working it.
Will you be able to get the replacement for the other shocks which are clip style?
I was thinking about getting one, but the steering might be a deal breaker. Not the scrub but all the dirt getting in there and on the rack. And I don't see an upgrade for it.
Yeah this is definitely a tractor of and RC car. It is cheap and fun but not very precise.
Great vid!
Thanks for watching!
Curious why the steering rack issue never came up on the WOV when they’re the same.
I'm not sure. I think the Wov servo is stronger So it is able to overcome the problem more easily. After installing the Eco power servo I didn't really notice the problem during bashing though it does feel crunchy when moving it by hand.
@@DoRC interesting. I still don’t get why they bother with this instead of sticking to a traditional bell crank.
@dylanwhite6539 It's got to be cost
So that esc will hook right up to the motor that came in the truck...plug in play?
Not quite. The bullets on the motor are 4 mm and they are 6.5 mm on the ESC. You will either need to change the bullets on the motor or get some adapters.
@@DoRC I'll get adapters what's the link
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Thanks for the feedback!
I think the stock servo can be updated to 7.4 which should give you 35kg or higher. By changing the Voltage in programing.
That definitely could help though I'm pretty familiar with these 35 kg servos and they generally aren't quite as powerful as they say they will be
Mine is otw
Nice!
if that 35kg servo is not strong then i don't know what is
Just a better servo. The Amazon special $25 35 kg servo is not 35 kg. It's not the weakest servo in the world but it's far from the strongest. Put a power hobby 729 in there and bask in the goodness :-)
Wonder how these stock tires would look on 6s typhon?
These are probably going to be awesome for alternative buggy tires.
What’s the shock length ?
About 118 mm extended
I dont understand why only one shock is threaded 🤔
From what I understand they all should be but the manufacturer messed up. My guess is that they originally made the shocks the clip-on style like the Wov racing but changed it for the same reason it was changed on the wov cars. Sounds like they had a bunch of stock of the other ones and just either decided to use them or uses them on accident.
@@DoRCI think it's poor QC....But great video!!
@@andyb9994 Yeah that's pretty much what it boils down to. Somebody didn't do their job at the factory
Interesting!
Glad you found it intriguing!
Where can I find those tires and wheels with that offset?
They come stock on the wov racing monster truck
Speaking of things getting into wheel hex area and shredding bearings up, i had that happen when i ran over some jewelry wire.
Speaking of shocks, i broke my first one last night. Stupid hidden plastic access grates hidden in stupid grass.
Stupid me driving at night through said stupid grass.
Ouch.
What are those tires called?
I don't think they have a specific name they are the stock tires off of the Wov racing blitzkrieg.
@@DoRC cool, thanks!
Great video.....but that is not your advantage. Your main advantage Messier DO RC is the knowledge that you display, such as the " scrub radius ??????" - for which by the way I would personally like to see a small video about the whole distance.....thing and what defects does it have on the rc e.t.c. Also the video that you made on legal maters regarding patents and companies. So that really makes your channel stand out. Keep it up.
P.S: Please don't forget to make an explanatory video regarding that ...radius !!!!!
I'll try to include a better explanation in a future video though I'm not sure it could warrant a whole video of its own. I'm glad you're enjoying!
Can that body fit on a SCT?
I would say definitely maybe. I just tried it on an old TA SCT I have and it actually looks kind of cool.
Is it the stock motor and did you experience a hot motor
Yes it's stock and I didn't experience overheating on 5S but I can't speak for 6S because the shock broke pretty quickly into that session.
How ate u not breaking cvd pins ive broke 8 cv axle pins and only run 3s
Not sure. I haven't heard CV axle pins as a common problem with these. Are you landing jumps on power or anything like that?
@DoRC do landing on power on speed runs not bashing they snap or fallout redcat sent me 8free male and female ends end and I broke all of them.
Did you tell RedCat about the old style shocks? The should hopefully replace them.
I have made them aware. I suspect they already know about it though
You got their last 3 of the old one with one new one. Lol😂
Maybe though I have spoken to a couple other people who have gotten similar setups
lol you the RC man 🧍♂️ they mixed em up ahh only half of the people beat snot out of there trucks 🛻
That’s what I liked about wov rigs , the diffs were robust could get power to ground without worrying. 50 mph is perfect with power in reserve , just control and handling need to be addressed
Yeah a lot of people will never have problems with the press in shocks
These are the same differentials that are in the machete. They're pretty beefy in this car.
Nice , I read that in comments I wasn’t sure if it were true . Makes sense they’re plenty strong for 10 8th size rigs
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw Yeah I think you'd be hard pressed to break a differential in one of these.
I personally think that truck is a bit too small for 6s. For me, it's fast enough on just 4s IMHO 👍. But it's good to know what it can do on 6s 😂
4S is plenty for this truck. I mostly put 6S on it to see what it could handle.
Valkerie vs Maxx?
I would say it depends on your budget. The max is a better car but it's obviously far more expensive. A good middle ground could be the outcast 4s V 2.5.
If my boss didn't cut my hours I'd definitely buy this, great video
Well hopefully you can soon!
I like this truck but that steering setup looks like it'll just be problems.
It's not too bad. It gets kind of crunchy but still keeps working.
Your the best thank bro 🎉
Glad you enjoyed thanks for watching!
Can you make a video where you drive Awesome the whole way through the video? I wreck a lot with my RC cars like one out of every 10 jumps. I’ll do something crazy it’s not landing . I’m a little new to the channel. So at this point, I’m wondering like can this dude actually drive? You understand I’m sure this isn’t the first time you got this.👻👍🏼
It is far from the first time that I've been told I'm a bad driver. I'm not the best driver in the world but I have been bashing yearly every day for the last 20 years So when I want to land to jump I can. You're seeing a minute of about 30 minutes of bashing usually so you're kind of seeing what I want you to and usually I want people to see how these things handle crashes pretty much any modern RC can land jumps perfectly and survive It's what happens when they don't land perfectly that matters. Because of this I intentionally crash a lot. I do have a few videos I've done fairly recently where I only showed good landings just to prove to people that I can :-)
he said "rack".
:)
I'll tell you what though from experience if you reach out to redcat they will already have you new ones ship before they even reply to your email they are that good at customer service I had a problem with my servo on my machete first the servo one went out and the servo itself went out at the same time I just am too new to know it so they replaced my servo horn I emailed them about the servo and before they even replied they had already shipped me a new servo and then replied with the hey I'm shipping you a new servo they are really good
I agree. In my experience redcat has the best customer service in the industry right now. It's not that Traxxas or Horizon are bad it's just that red cat goes the extra mile
This clipped on shock design looks so bad, it could even be an intended breaking point. But hey, they are at least aware of the problem😂
I find it unlikely they did it on purpose. That would just be setting themselves up for a bad reputation and a lot of warranty claims
Same thing happens in my machete steering rack little rocks and debris get up in there and locks up really do not like this style of steering on these cars
Yeah I'm not really sure why they have it. It doesn't really provide any advantage over the standard style other than maybe cost for them and it gets bound up pretty easily. It's not a huge deal and with a strong enough servo you can kind of power through it but it is an inferior design in my opinion
@@DoRC I think so too.i have a high torque/volt servo on my machete and it's powers through it most of the time👍a least they didn't put that set up on the vigilante
@cannibal666 Yeah the stock servo just doesn't quite have the jam for it but the one I put in there in this video seems to handle it pretty well.
@@DoRC cool I'll do the same when I pick mine up 👍
Those wav tires, I think that's the name. Anyways those tires look like they really suck. MayB better on the vehicle thay came on. But on the RC looked like thay don't work.
Yeah they're okay. Honestly it's not really the tires that are to blame. The truck just doesn't handle that well. It's cheap pretty durable and fun but definitely not a precise instrument.
800 + Dollar vehicle you got to upgrade, maybe I'll pass
800 of what kind of dollars? This is a $300 US vehicle
He thinking it’s the 5th scale guy 😂 never be a perfect RC but can be close . For 300 with HW electronics in this market it’s dam near perfect
Yea I'm thinking it's the one with the blue and white body,never had a red cat
2:17 What a terrible design…🤦♂️
Plus how can the bearings turn ????? They are in contact on both opposite sides so……… The steering rack is just sliding on them without letting them rotating…..
Plus the superior side of the steering rack is directly sliding against these 2 plastic bits….. What an overall terrible steering design 😑😑😑
I think the idea is that there is enough play between the bearings and the rack that they will either bear on one side or the other. Unfortunately when debris gets in there it kind of binds everything up. It still works but I don't think it's the best design.
@@DoRC Thank you A LOT for your great work, you’re the best American channel that I know, your testing protocol is very constant and professional (checking everything before testing the cars, disassembling the main parts to see how it’s made etc.)
Plus always interesting upgrade videos too, following the review videos, this is perfect…👍
I’m very grateful.
Big salut 🫡 from southeast coast France 🇫🇷
ViNZ.
@1980VINZ thanks man I'm really glad you enjoy!
Surprised your endorsing redcat with the situation in Ukraine
What do you mean?
looks like all black out copy of vow racing tyrants buggy and reucks
Yeah they're definitely made by the same OEM.