Brian JONES: MiCK & KEiTH Were Writing SH*T Song..!
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2024
- The Rolling Stones
Brian Jones, the enigmatic founder of The Rolling Stones, versus Mick Jagger, the swaggering frontman whose vocal cords were a loaded revolver. The battleground: not the stage, but the sacred space of songwriting. Brian Jones, the musician who couldn't write the song, may not have penned the hits, but his story is a haunting melody - a ballad of unfulfilled talent, of whispered regrets, and of the bittersweet beauty of a soul forever lost in the echoes of what could have been.
Zouzou, a French enigma. No ordinary girlfriend, she was a whirlwind herself - a singer, model, and free spirit who embodied the era's bohemian spirit. Her real name was Danièle Ciarlet, but Zouzou, chosen by the Parisian magazine "Paris Match", fit her perfectly. With her gamine haircut, infectious laugh, and a gaze that held both mischief and melancholy, she captivated Brian. The enigmatic Zouzou fades back into the tapestry of the sixties, leaving behind a whisper of what could have been, a testament to the fleeting beauty of love and the enduring power of music. And Brian Jones, the Rolling Stone with wings, continues to soar in the hearts of fans, his music echoing with the faintest trace of a French muse.
Brian Jones, the enigmatic founder of The Rolling Stones, was a man of contradictions. A musical innovator with a restless spirit, he possessed a soulful gaze that whispered ancient secrets and a smile that could charm the birds from the trees. But lurking beneath the veneer of stardust, a darkness resided - a thirst that clawed at his insides, forever seeking solace in the amber embrace of alcohol. But even within the darkness, flickers of brilliance remained. His mastery of instruments, his unorthodox arrangements, continued to push the boundaries of rock. He became a reluctant muse, inspiring his bandmates while slowly becoming lost in the fumes of self-destruction.
Sources & References:
- Brian Jones and The Stones 2023 (BBC Two)
- Wikipedia
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If only Brian had been around to tell his side of the Stones story and what had inspired him. Maybe one day, something of that will come to light. Brian R.I.P🙏🏽
It really takes cajones (not) to rip a dead man, there's no possibility of being called out for lying. Where would the four surviving Stones be today without Brian's musical genius? No Jones No Stones!
To be fair, journalist and friend Don Short said Brian once told him, "It's not that I dislike their music. It's great. But there must be a fair crack of the whip. As a group, we've got to consider all channels of music. Mine included."
Awesome to hear Brian sing -- a very good singer, sounds nice. Too bad he didn't write and sing his own stuff. The song fragments sounded quite good indeed.
..as a backup vocalist ,maybe.His voice certainly wasn't lead singer quality.And when he drank too much and used too many drugs, then he really couldn't sing or really play that well. And near the end he didn't put any real effort into contributing much to the band. I've always wondered why he didnt even try to write his own stuff on the side and put those ideas in a notebook.,regardless of who were the songwriters for the group. He had almost nine years to do something... Sad ,really.
@@thaismatsumoto I think Brian was a fragile person who was very insecure and afraid of rejection. To write songs means having to be open to criticism and exposing oneself. He wasn't comfortable with that. But some of that insecurity can probably be traced to how Andrew created the power structure of the band. Brian was subsided early for Mick and Keith’s writing talents when it should have been more inclusive. He was more or less usurped from his own band. I would probably be a little insecure and secretly jealous, as well. Brian gave a lot of Mick/Keith ditties texture, and while that might not attain authorship, many of the songs would not be the same without Brian’s contribution.
@@fuchsiaswing8545 The "power struggle" was very simple. Brian couldn't write orr improvise , so he didn't have any "power " at all.
He was a petulant poser.
I will say, I do think Mick and Keith were wrong to just declare Brian or Bill "couldn't write good songs." As though every song the Twins wrote were gold? No. By all accounts, Brian was their George Martin, he helped make their songs hits. He and Bill had the right to demand more of a creative outlet in the group.
Wo says every song by J and R was gold? Certainly not Richards who slates many of them in his auto biography
@@Kinuklon Then they shouldn’t have been control freaks about it.
You said the right words! I agree with you 💯..
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 Thank you. have you read his autobiography LIFE ? - or should I say Ευχαριστω πολύ - ακούς στα ελληνικά μουσική εδω επίσης ? εχει πολυ καλο παλιό τραγοθδια εδω
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"Fame doesn't rest easily on anyone's head, but on some people its an entirely wrong fit" - Mick Jagger on Brian Jones.
Unfair to say that!
"Jones was perhaps more of a Rolling Stone than any of the others. What the Stones as a group sang about, what Jagger and Richard wrote about, Jones did, and he did it right out in public, and he got caught, and he looked the part. He wasn’t acting out the Stones’ music, he just happened to be the Stones’ music."--Rolling Stone magazine, 1969
Wow, you wrote my mind on one of my favourite subjects. B.Jones and Stones. Cheers from Vancouver!
Thank you...Glad you like it! Hope you'd like to watch the Full Documentary: ua-cam.com/video/cBCQfawM4m0/v-deo.html
Cheers and have a nice day!
And the ultimate irony?
Allen Klein owns all these songs from about '63 to '71.
I think that it is inherent in most bands that there is an element of that sort of behaviour. In my experience, there is always someone who thinks he's superior than anyone else.
Even if that's the case, everyone has there part to contribute and very often have other skills to offer. You should in fact, all work together for the good of the band. As a matter of fact, Brian Jones was extremely talented, he became more and more frustrated at being edged out and ignored. Some of which he brought on himself through his own behaviour. I remember and have supported the Stones right from the beginning. Every member of the band, past and present, has greatly contributed to it's phenomenal success. Even with the very sad episode with Brian.
Great work on this piece !
Thanks...Glad you like it! 💯🎶👌🙌🤗
Sounds like Brian wanted to be the 5th Beatle (George Martin gets that credit) he was a sitar, mellow Tron(damn spell check) guy. Who knows if it would have worked. John, Paul, George, Brian, and Ringo(Richard Starkey). Ringo’s revenge he is alive and appears happy, Joe Walsh’s brother-in-law.
Quite a combination and a big snub to the rest of the Stones who rejected his ideas.
Seems strange there was no mention of "The Dragon Lady", Anita Pallenberg. Losing her to Keith really accelerated his decline into drugs and booze.
Thanks for watching! Stay tuned for next Episode! 👌😊
Which is ironic considering how much he cheated on and dumped his girlfriends over his lifetime. He certainly didn't put the effort in to make any of his relationships work..Five children by five different women who he dumped when they became pregnant isn't anything to be proud of.
@@thaismatsumoto Karma, it's a bitch
Neither Anita or Keith seemed to care about Brian after they got together. There must have been something sincere and kind they could have done if they had genuinely loved him in the first place. Admittedly Keith did let him stay at Redlands in '68 for a while but not much else- no 'let's write a good song together' or find other musicians for him to set up a band with..etc
Without Brian, the Stones would have been just another garage band from the Sixties. He made Stones songs different from anything that was sounding in those days
No matter the PR smear campaign, the carefully selected quotes from people that probably had an axe to grind, the responses that may have been forced by the manager, the thing that Brian’s adversaries will never be able to hide is that you can HEAR Brian’s influence in the music and it’s absence when it’s gone. Lyrically and musically the work of a higher mind. His home studio was stripped bare by Rolling Stones management during his funeral of which Mick and Keith did not attend. Why would anyone’s ex *employers* have any right to their ex *employee*’s PRIVATE property? Only his parents had right to his property. Where did Brian’s home recordings go? On the next few albums - ‘Sticky Fingers’? What a joke.
Team Brian forever. The world was robbed by his death.
........but he did have the best hair
Wilde Zeit und tolle Musik...💯
Fascinating but so sad . . .
I don't believe Brian was jealous of anyone , why would he ? He had more talent in is pinky finger than all the rest of them put together , he started everything with the Rolling Stones and could play any insrument that was put infront of him .
amen!
actually it all boils down to oldham was in love with mick and hated brian.
HE COULDNT TOUCH MICK TAYLOR ON GUITAR
@@charlessteenburgen mick taylor's style was completely off to it's self in the stones sound. it did not fit. yes, taylor was/is a great guitar player. have you EVER read what taylor said about the stones???
@@charlessteenburgen it was a coup d'etat within the band and from management. oldham was in love with jagger and hated brian. jagger and richards had THEIR own interests in mind.
At 18:40 ,how do we know it's Brian singing or Mike Aldred? The voice does sound like Brian's but I don't know what Mike Aldrid sounds like.
Neither Anita or Keith seemed to care about Brian after they got together. There must have been something sincere and kind they could have done if they had genuinely loved him in the first place. Admittedly, Keith did let him stay at Redlands in '68 for a while but not much else- no 'let's write a good song together' or find other musicians for him to set up a band with..etc
Didn't Brian compose the third verse of Ruby Tuesday? I read that Keith offered him writing credit, but Brian declined. True story?
Well that matches the story Gene Clark said, that he offered to give Brian co credit on Eight Miles High, and Brian declined. The Stones' accountant also said he told Brian he was giving away credit to Mick and Keith.
Stop it. Jones was too busy beating women and leaving fatherless children all over Britain to "write" a damn thing.
Can't imagine Brian being offered a songwriting credit by Keith or Mick because it would mean a whole bag of credits for other songs. Yet he should have been offered for his due. Brian 🙏🏽R.I.P
"Lose your dreams and you will lose your mind. Ain't life unkind." If Brian didn't write it he certainly lived it.
@@atlasking6110Get lost, troll.
Kieth is still here,,,,cuz he wasn't murdered in his own pool.
What band is this?
Did Keith have ANY lyrics when he woke up or just the one line or just the opening notes? Did Mick take over and write it all from that point?
I believe he just came up with the riff and possibly the chord progression (E, A, and B7...as simple as it gets).
They mostly worked that way. A riff, a catchy phrase from Keith, then Jagger wrote out loose lyrics while Keith and the band worked out the rest of the tune. Mick and the producer would of course be in on that as well. Keith came up with so much great music. Had such a great drummer and bass to work with. Poor brilliant Brian should have left them in '66.
@@glynjones7158 No Stones = No Money
No Stones, no money !
I’d read that it was Keith who came up with the lyrics and certainly had a hand in the music though Brian came up with the initial recorder melody which he played on record plus piano. Marianne Faithful who sat in during the recordings said it ought to have been credited as a Brian / Keith song. Mick just came in and sang the song. Normally I’d have expected a jagged Richards songs as Mick lyrics and Keith music though in reality Brian contributed to and reshaped the music.
enjoy 🎉
Mick and Keith wrote better songs that "Satisfaction", like "Heart Of Stone" and "Blue Turns To Grey".
Like Honky Tonk.Women..and BROWN Sugar
I like Satisfaction soooo much! But I like so much Brian Jones too❤❤🤷🙆
“Blue Turns to Grey” is a beautiful song.
@@fuchsiaswing8545 Angie is better
@@charlessteenburgen “Angie” is rubbish. From Goats Head Soup, songs like “Winter” are much better ballads.
Jealous. But talent in his way
Muss es mir morgen anhören..seid ihr alle gut ins neue Jahr gekommen? Ich leider so 🤒...pünktlich zu Silvester eine Grippe...kann nur noch besser werden...🙋
lekas sehat yes
Happy New Year 2024! Thanks, I had a great start to the new year. I hope you recover quickly and have a fantastic year ahead...Keep it Rolling!
@@ayana3269 Danke...🍀..🌻..
@@RockinRollinOne Ebenfalls ein gutes Jahr 2024...bin ein Optimist.....Danke...🌻...
@@wilmabaumann4499 Met plezier
That's a fucked up thing to say.
Klappt wohl doch noch nicht ganz mit vernünftigen Kommentaren von mir, aber bald 🍀🍀🍀
Mick and Keith were never on the same songwriting level as John and Paul--or even ABBA's Björn and Benny. While there are exceptions, e.g., 'Backstreet Girl,' nearly all of their songs are just based on Keith's riffs. Even a song like 'Angie' just monotonously repeats itself throughout. And lyrics have never been their strong point, either. The Beatles far outshine them in that department. Of course, the songs work, they're enjoyable to listen to and they get you stomping your feet, but from a purely compositional standpoint, they're not very sophisticated. Just ask any music teacher or serious musician.
Well according to the new "Stones and Brian Jones" documentary, Brian preferred to listen to the Beatles. ;D
Cole Porter leaves them all standing for lyrical and melodic content - as does Burt Bacharach.
@@TheaterPup Brian lebih suka mengcover musik blues Amerika 🤣🤣🤣
Musisi hebat ialah bisa menciptakan trend sendiri, Stones membuktikan itu,selera musik orang beda2 bos,musik tak bisa di banding2 kan🤣🤣🤣
@@yoanberlianasiregar2325That’s a good thing, not sure why you think it’s a punch line. But it’s also too simplistic and answer, he clearly liked multiple genres.
Brian should have been fired the day he said this.
Keith said about Brian"s Self destrucion but Keith is still here (25:00)
And Charlie said two thngs about Brian, hes not nice and he upset people very easily (21:50)
That's why Frank Thorogood drowned him in the pool, while Keith he's a nice person & don't annoyed anyone that's why he's still here.
It's only Rock n Roll but I like it 🎸 ❤
Your comment is extremely uninformed; I suggest a great deal more research. Btw, it's pretty evil to drown someone just because you don't think they're "nice." Scary that you don't realize that.
@@TheaterPup in Frank Thorogood's obituary said he killed Brian, see the movie stoned is about Frank's confession
@@user-si8qf8nh2j LOL Dude, none of that is evidence. Conspiracy theories and a bad movie. Please learn how to research before commenting next time.
@@user-si8qf8nh2jThe movie was rubbish as was the so called confession.
I love the stones, but they are not even on the same planet as The Beatles in terms of creativity and quality.
Thats true absolutely
It's SITars not SIGHTars.
The narration is made by language software and not a real person
Bullshit!
Stones were shit until they fired Brian! Best move they ever did!! Mick Taylor is a god compared to him!
Get lost, troll.
Stones from 64 through 68 were classic. You don't even know what you're talking about
Brian influence are so overrated. I'm not so fond of the Stones early stuff, sure there are some good songs but mostly it was pretty much just covers and later really shitty attempts to psychedelia, which the Stones never had anything to do with in the first place. For me, the Stones didn't "become" the Stones until the release of Jumping Jack Flash and Beggars Banquet in 1968, and sure, Brian was on these recordings but was already by then "gone" and when Let it bleed was released he was gone for real, just appearing on two tracks.
We all know the story, he couldn't write songs, and he got bored of the guitar and started to play all these weird foreign instruments instead when he actually showed up to the sessions.
The stones got SO MUCH better after Brian was fired.
You clearly know absolutely nothing about 60s Stones or Brian Jones. If you want to talk about the 70s, then go to those videos. Stop spreading ignorance here.
Im 75 today i think The Stones got lucky, watching them in the 60,s now on the Ed Sullivan Show liken them to a school band. Embarrassing
YOURE SO WRONG POPS..
It's called local lads make good. It's not a bad thing.
I prefer The Mick Taylor era..and in my not so humble opinion. That's the best version of the band that existed
Then go to a video about him, and stop trolling this one.
@@TheaterPup Mick Taylor left the Stones to save his marriage and his life from drugs! So I read it from someone.. if it's true, I say Bravo to him.. I believe he had other reasons too..
@@TheaterPup I can.do what I want..your approval is not needed
@@elenikorkodelaki2695he also realized they weren't up to his musical ability and he felt stifled in the band. And they didn't really let anyone else be creative. That had to be frustrating for someone with his talent.
@@thaismatsumoto his guitar virtuosity made them a better band