Brian Jones Difficult years with The Rolling Stones

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  • @filmretrospective5334
    @filmretrospective5334  8 місяців тому +14

    The other Brian Joens Documentary
    ua-cam.com/video/JAsDqfmguGg/v-deo.html

    • @jonn.6325
      @jonn.6325 8 місяців тому

      Joens? 😄

    • @jackb4344
      @jackb4344 8 місяців тому

      😊😅

    • @Charles-h1x
      @Charles-h1x 7 місяців тому

      They are from tribe of Joena,later they incorporated Joeda,after busing got rolling.

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  7 місяців тому +3

      Sorry i meant Joen Brians.

    • @Charles-h1x
      @Charles-h1x 7 місяців тому

      Mr. Its a good doc if thats the worst u do u r ok.think on this:as a retired agent of the death business,(funeral home),getting a name of dang near anyone in an obit was very hazardous for a southern director,if u did u best correct it asap!

  • @johnke7
    @johnke7 8 місяців тому +156

    When Keith Richards thinks you need to cut down on your consumption of drink and drugs, you know you're in trouble.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 8 місяців тому +11

      That was before it happened to Keith. Marianne Faithfull said she felt that's how Keith coped with Brian's death.

    • @garyreece5172
      @garyreece5172 7 місяців тому +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @pena.3302
      @pena.3302 7 місяців тому +1

      When Keef.Writes A great book.he should.Call.it.Life.Then you mr last 1.to Realise anyone.dont knead this.Ul go wth it.right.Like yhat dude harrising.Sonic Yoof."Hey its Mr..😂"..The yr punk.broke.91Hey.You should.Do one on The Butthole Serfers.or G.G
      Allens.antics.See ya Mr Im the Man..gawd the way Youve Drawled "ANITA PPAALLLIINGBURG.'..She spoke 76.lingo's bet she nva sounded lole u 'MR MIC ROW PHONY.Steve McQueen.says
      .

    • @scottbrower9052
      @scottbrower9052 7 місяців тому

      🎯

    • @AstroJenkins
      @AstroJenkins 4 місяці тому

      @@TheaterPupPretty sure in Keith’s book, he says he went full junky around 69-70, so it adds up. I could be off by a year or two.

  • @princegroove
    @princegroove 7 місяців тому +37

    Brian will always be my favorite Stone, and generally a fashion reference and pop icon.

  • @TheaterPup
    @TheaterPup 7 місяців тому +20

    "In 1966, I witnessed, on numerous occasions, the remarkable spell Brian would cast while working in the recording studio. Mick and Keith would bring songs in, Brian would listen and effectively take charge, and everyone was in awe of him. He was a real perfectionist. While recording the recorder part in Ruby Tuesday he explained to me that he had to do it over again as he had been a quarter tone off tune."--Prince Stash Klossowski de Rola (artist and friend of the Stones) in Brian Jones: Butterfly in the Park.

  • @wildmanmountainjack3725
    @wildmanmountainjack3725 8 місяців тому +27

    Those early Stones albums are so good. Sticky Fingers and Exile are my favorites but I still throw on the early stuff almost as much. I wish it had worked out for Brian.

  • @Ocelot1962
    @Ocelot1962 8 місяців тому +40

    With an enlarged heart and liver, Brian wouldn't have lived much longer even if he hadn't drowned. I'd even say he still wouldn't have made it to thirty. It's a shame because he was such a talented man. This is a great documentary, by the way. Please keep making them.

    • @michaelpacinus242
      @michaelpacinus242 8 місяців тому

      I imagine most people would live quite a bit longer were they not to drown

    • @Ocelot1962
      @Ocelot1962 8 місяців тому +5

      @@michaelpacinus242 Not with an enlarged heart and an alcohol-damaged liver like his.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 8 місяців тому +1

      I think that's likely. It sounds like he was trying to do better, but the damage to the body had been done. At least he did get to live at Cotchford for awhile. And Charlie says he did visit him.

    • @elenikorkodelaki2695
      @elenikorkodelaki2695 7 місяців тому

      @@TheaterPup Du you believe that Brian's health was so bad, and he wouldn't have made it to thirty.. ???

    • @elenikorkodelaki2695
      @elenikorkodelaki2695 7 місяців тому

      @@michaelpacinus242 i believe the same

  • @steveconn
    @steveconn 8 місяців тому +64

    Slowly pushed out. Should've founded new band in 65 and saved his spirit and dignity.

    • @arricammarques1955
      @arricammarques1955 8 місяців тому +5

      The Who outplayed the Stones. So Jagger shelved the 'Rock & Roll' circus film.

    • @davemish4163
      @davemish4163 8 місяців тому +9

      That's a pipe dream. Brian was in no condition to do that.

    • @JayAr709
      @JayAr709 8 місяців тому

      Brian = Pete Best to jealous Beatles. In a similar way, he = a Don Felder to eagles Henley & Fry

    • @AllofJudea
      @AllofJudea 8 місяців тому +13

      ​@@JayAr709Best was a terrible drummer though. Go back and listen, he's all over the place place. Ringo is like a drum machine, perfect time

    • @AllofJudea
      @AllofJudea 8 місяців тому

      ​@@arricammarques1955Jethro Tull too

  • @Chris-i3p
    @Chris-i3p 7 місяців тому +17

    KEITH was concerned about someone’s drug use………!…….

  • @arricammarques1955
    @arricammarques1955 8 місяців тому +27

    Brain self-medicated with substances. Probably, suffered with bi-polar depression. Dreadful shame he didn't get proper help. His fate would have been different.

    • @carlsaganlives5112
      @carlsaganlives5112 5 місяців тому

      Enough with the psychobabble about drugs...some people just enjoy getting fucked up, no deep mystery. Having a few with yer friends? That's 'self-medicating', lol.

    • @JTRocks4Ever
      @JTRocks4Ever 4 місяці тому

      I totally agree! People had no clue about stuff like that back then. It is a real shame.

    • @PaulFormentos
      @PaulFormentos Місяць тому

      Nah the sacrifice had to be paid in full....

  • @TheaterPup
    @TheaterPup 8 місяців тому +50

    "Brian was a brilliant, fluent multi-instrumentalist, he was the one who founded the Rolling Stones and he had the creative vision that helped them to evolve organically from a mop-top blues-pop group into the mystical rock gods they became--something that many people today might not realise."--Mick Fleetwood

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому +3

      It seem that Mr. Fleetwood reads the same Trynka fiction that Puppy does.
      Jones never founded anything but the 27 club and he was the least creative one in the band.

    • @nihilistlivesmatter
      @nihilistlivesmatter 7 місяців тому +5

      Brian was a jack of all trades master of none...couldn't play any of those instruments beyond beginner level....the myth of Brian's talent is just that, a myth

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 7 місяців тому +7

      @@nihilistlivesmatter Thank goodness for that beginner level, it produced a lot of magic. 😎

    • @nihilistlivesmatter
      @nihilistlivesmatter 7 місяців тому

      @@TheaterPup Sure some of his parts were very pretty...but he was no brilliant & fluent virtuoso

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 7 місяців тому +5

      @@nihilistlivesmatter I’d call him a musical prodigy.

  • @restock_1731
    @restock_1731 8 місяців тому +17

    Brian sounds like he was a very complex person. What a great video, I'm definitely gonna check out the other Brian video.

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 8 місяців тому +15

    This is why nobody else does things as well as you do. Never seen such great information about the stones and Mr Jones I tried telling people about your channel. I hope they start listening some more. Because you got a lot to say and thanks for the hard work.

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you, I appreciate the kind words!

    • @tylersims6937
      @tylersims6937 8 місяців тому +1

      One of the best channels. However,....(LoL!!)
      The Flip SideCT is fuckin definitely not to be ignored either. He/His/That's the channel you wanna make sure you don't miss out on. His documentaries are summa the best, not just on (coincidentally, parallel alongside MY favs! Ain't dat cool?) classic rock, he's...just....fuckin trust me. Everything he touches is, it either is, genius..Or it will be genius when he's finished with it.
      Dood is golden, I put my word onnit.

  • @stevecowder4774
    @stevecowder4774 8 місяців тому +5

    This is a truly fascinating documentary about the Stones and the mystery of BJ. And there’s so many bizarre stories regarding these guys, but this one really delves deeper into their world. Plus, the slick narration of this episode couldn’t have been any better. Incredible stuff !

  • @baronoflivonia.3512
    @baronoflivonia.3512 8 місяців тому +12

    2000 Light Years is still good. Only Charlie & Bill went to Jones funeral.

    • @markbahouth2713
      @markbahouth2713 8 місяців тому +6

      2000 light years from home is in my opinion the Stones finest song . Brian Jones most likely was the composer .

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 8 місяців тому +1

      Keith said he viewed the Hyde Park concert as the funeral. Mick had to film a movie, he sent a wreath.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому +2

      The Hyde Park free concert was Brian's real funeral.

    • @PaulFormentos
      @PaulFormentos Місяць тому

      In Memoirs, Macca says that tune is a PID clue

  • @myyootube2
    @myyootube2 7 місяців тому +14

    "Keith thought Brian's drug and alcohol consumption were destroying him, and Brian thought Keith had got together with Mick to take over his band". "They were both right".

  • @zachbos5108
    @zachbos5108 8 місяців тому +9

    Lennon's opinion on We Love You is surprising, since he and Paul sang on it...

    • @zachbos5108
      @zachbos5108 8 місяців тому +2

      Also WLY is a rock song with a guitar riff and AYNIL is a fkn circus

    • @neilmclaughlin2347
      @neilmclaughlin2347 8 місяців тому

      Yes, but it does have a guitar solo. Not a very good one, but a sole. Does that elevate it in the ‘Rawk’ stakes for you?

    • @joepermenter7228
      @joepermenter7228 7 місяців тому

      They returned the favor for Mick and Keith being on AYNIL and later regretted it because the stones completely ripped off Pepper in concept in a cash grab.

  • @TheaterPup
    @TheaterPup 8 місяців тому +26

    “Brian Jones was indeed the father of what we now regard as world music…Brian’s championing of ethnic players such as the Moroccan Master Musicians of Joujouka back in 1967 should be regarded as groundbreaking artistic development, portents of the future.”-John Phillpott, Blues in Britain

    • @rbilleaud
      @rbilleaud 8 місяців тому +2

      Such a self-destructive personality. Sometimes you can't stop a train wreck even if you see it coming.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 8 місяців тому

      Do you feel self righteous enough yet? Jog on, troll.@@rbilleaud

    • @normatible9795
      @normatible9795 8 місяців тому +1

      Agreed . I remember that Paul Simon also did similar things fir musical authenticity. He engaged native Peruvians to play for " el condor pasa" then went to Africa for his album Graceland , engaging african musicians and instruments.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому +1

      I defy you or anyone to listen to that annoying claptrap noise for more than two minutes, Puppy.
      I don't know how high you have to be before those horrid sounds begin to sound good to you ...But I know I have never been that f***ed up.

    • @alaincelos476
      @alaincelos476 7 місяців тому +2

      Hé didn't mind about this crap noises !! It was the only short way for him to found easy dope ,that's killed him,hé is my fave Musician ,joujouka IS pretty boring.

  • @CatherinePlant-k6o
    @CatherinePlant-k6o 10 днів тому +1

    Without Brian the Stones wouldn't exist.

  • @nolagospeltracts8264
    @nolagospeltracts8264 8 місяців тому +13

    Brain really added a lot to those early stones records. Too bad he wasn't a high functioning addict like Keith.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 8 місяців тому +6

      Being a "high functioning addict" is nothing to wish to be.

    • @nolagospeltracts8264
      @nolagospeltracts8264 8 місяців тому +5

      @@TheaterPup I'm not saying it is. I was just pointing out the differences between Brian and Keith.

    • @jonathansteadman7935
      @jonathansteadman7935 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@TheaterPupit's better than being just an addict, believe me !

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 8 місяців тому

      We will disagree on that. @@jonathansteadman7935

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 8 місяців тому

      More like the double standard fans have.@@nolagospeltracts8264

  • @johngore7744
    @johngore7744 8 місяців тому +7

    John and Paul sang back up on we love you. I don’t know what Johnny moondog was saying. God bless him anyhow. Also Mick and Keith were in the recoding of All you Need Is Love. The video is on You tube. I’m 63 and was pretty young when all this went down but m older siblings were into it so I’ve heard it all since I ad like 6. Lol cheers from Montreal

    • @Revolver1981
      @Revolver1981 8 місяців тому

      The Stones were fantastique. But The Beatles were on another level man.👍🏻

  • @elmolewis9123
    @elmolewis9123 8 місяців тому +4

    This video was so well done, I'll be watching it again. I'm in the Beatle's camp but appreciate the Stones' contribution to music history.

  • @willdenham
    @willdenham 7 місяців тому +3

    The reason Keith had passed out the second time on stage was that he got electrocuted by the mic stand.

  • @taylorbond6071
    @taylorbond6071 3 місяці тому +3

    “Manic highs and devastating lows”. I’m no doctor but he may have had bipolar disorder exacerbated by drug use.

  • @johnchestnutt6892
    @johnchestnutt6892 7 місяців тому +2

    The Stones and Floyd-my 2 favorite bands for 50 years though Brian Jones/Syd Barrett sadly melted their brain cells.

  • @phillipanderson7398
    @phillipanderson7398 8 місяців тому +2

    In 1965, Oldham hired Allen Klein as his business manager. Andrew Loog Oldham remained their manager until 1967.

  • @michealcurrie8272
    @michealcurrie8272 8 місяців тому +15

    Stole his band, stole his girlfriend then ostracised him completely. Too much for a young vulnerable guy. Obviously.

    • @jayhpaq
      @jayhpaq 8 місяців тому +7

      It was as much his own fault. He could’ve written songs for the band and remained a force, but he either was unable to or was afraid to. He was jealous of both Mick and Keith’s songwriting and Mick’s status as lead singer and focal point of the band (not much he could do about that one). These factors were his undoing as he was unable to accept this and instead of trying to assert himself he withdrew snd became difficult to be around. As for Anita, he was abusing her and so she left that fated Moroccan trip with Keith.

    • @michealcurrie8272
      @michealcurrie8272 8 місяців тому

      Excuses are like ass holes they all stink.
      Who gives a monkeys that he couldn't write a songs who knows what he could have achieved. Sadly we will never know.
      But for sure him and Jimi could have been a powerhouse of something great monumental even.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 7 місяців тому +1

      Brian clearly did try to assert himself, and succeeded in many ways. Multiple sources have described Brian taking charge in the studio and arranging the songs they'd bring in. It's his touches that made so many of their songs hits. @@jayhpaq

    • @PaulFormentos
      @PaulFormentos 2 місяці тому

      And stole his soul in the sacrifice of July 69

  • @FrankTobin-no4io
    @FrankTobin-no4io 7 місяців тому +22

    When the Stones lost Brian Jones,they lost a lot of their musical iimagery and intellectualism.

    • @PaulFormentos
      @PaulFormentos 2 місяці тому

      Funny then that they would go on quite the run of great albums, from Let it Bleed to exile

  • @monkeyboy4746
    @monkeyboy4746 7 місяців тому +2

    I love the tone of this, the thinly veiled level of disgust in his voice is fantastic.

  • @andypoehlman6395
    @andypoehlman6395 8 місяців тому +5

    You narration is outstanding. Thank you for all you work.

  • @GCDayer
    @GCDayer 8 місяців тому +2

    I always enjoy watching your videos! Thanks for all your efforts!

  • @danielhamby9448
    @danielhamby9448 4 місяці тому +2

    This is great! I’d love to see a video on Syd Barrett and the early Pink Floyd days

  • @Seth-b6i
    @Seth-b6i 8 місяців тому +3

    "Satanic Majesties" and "Beggar's Banquet" may well be their greatest albums. Just MHO.

  • @stephenedgecock
    @stephenedgecock 8 місяців тому +4

    Allen Klein owns all of the Rolling Stones publishing rights to everything recorded by the Stones from 1963-1970

    • @neilmclaughlin2347
      @neilmclaughlin2347 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes, but Allen Klein didn’t cheat them out of that, they lost all rights to things like that when they first signed with Andrew Oldham and Eric Easton. Klein merely bought out Oldham when Oldham did a runner in 67.

  • @TheaterPup
    @TheaterPup 26 днів тому

    "Brian's full musical talents are gradually emerging to show that he has a considerable future as an arranger."--Rave magazine, July 1964

  • @RoctoberSlots-b8w
    @RoctoberSlots-b8w 7 місяців тому +1

    The Narrator got his act together!! Thank you for insight to my favorite band of all time. 🇬🇧🇺🇸👍😝

  • @macde7841
    @macde7841 8 місяців тому +3

    Well done my friend. Hope you're feeling better? Think you'll ever do one on Mick Taylor's days with the Stones?

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  8 місяців тому +3

      I’m still sick but I’m working slowly. Possibly in the future.

  • @elenikorkodelaki2695
    @elenikorkodelaki2695 8 місяців тому +17

    Brian Jones! After so many years his memory stays alive! The most talented of the Stones ! Unfortunately he passed very young 🌱 away! Only he knew what really happened! So sad tragic story about the FOUNDER of the Rolling Stones! Unforgotten forever ❤

    • @Arya-1111
      @Arya-1111 8 місяців тому +6

      love him the most

    • @elenikorkodelaki2695
      @elenikorkodelaki2695 8 місяців тому +6

      @@Arya-1111 Same! Brian my favourite always and forever!

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому +2

      If he was supposed to be so talented...How is it that the Stones had their greatest success, world wide popularity and critical acclaim just after they got rid of him and hired a real guitarist?
      The drunk guy with the fluffy blonde hair held them back for years.

    • @manuelaguirre1062
      @manuelaguirre1062 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@williardbillmore5713Mick Taylor was surely their best guitarist, but the Stones most emblematic songs are from the Jones era. Jones co wrote Ruby Tuesday but he didnt get credit. It is said that Jones made contributions in the studio. Unfortunately Brian succumbed to drugs. I guess the competition with The Beatles in the 60's spurred them to create pop masterpieces. I know everyone claims that Exile is their best, but music is subjective.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому

      @@manuelaguirre1062 Jones did not write any part of Ruby Tuesday. Every note played in that song was written by Keith Richards alone including the recorder accompaniment The bass and the piano.
      Pianist Jack Nitzsche explains how they had to spoon feed each phrase to Jones and record each part to be stitched together in the final mix down..
      Jones never played anything like that in his life and he could never duplicate the studio work in a live setting. He would forget some phrases and put the wrong cadences at the chord changes tooting away out of time and often off key.

  • @TheaterPup
    @TheaterPup 2 місяці тому

    "Brian's input can be heard in every song on those RCA recordings. What he didn't touch, he went out and learned. You hear his color in songs like Lady Jane or Paint It, Black. In some cases it was more than a decorative effect. Sometimes Brian would pull the whole record."--Andrew Loog Oldham

  • @wilhelmhagberg4897
    @wilhelmhagberg4897 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video man! I’ve read quite a lot about the Stones and Brian’s sad fate, yet there was lots of info here I had totally missed!

  • @pantafine
    @pantafine 7 місяців тому +4

    Don't forget Mick has stated that who was Stone's bassist in early lives has been lost in the mists of time!!! It WAS Dick Taylor, his childhood friend; those guys are narcissistic, erasing whatever doesn't fit their narrative!

  • @Nick-Stewbreeze
    @Nick-Stewbreeze 8 місяців тому

    Here we all are, not talking just about the stones, also with each other about music. I fucking love music.

  • @thomaspick4123
    @thomaspick4123 7 місяців тому +2

    I liked the early Stones stuff. Brian’s slide on the pinky finger is the best. Sitar, recorder, you name it, Brian’s many instruments added color to the band. Keith came up with clever licks and tried new tunings. The Stones should have all gotten off of drugs and alcohol. They could have written better lyrics. They copied the Beatles too much. Allen Klein was a you-know-what! I have my own experience with THEM now. I invested my life savings with Celsius. Alex Mashinsky, the CEO, and one of THEM, stole my life savings. If Alex’s head should appear on a stick in front of the Barbizone Building with ants crawling on it, I would nod my head in approval.

  • @nolagospeltracts8264
    @nolagospeltracts8264 8 місяців тому +4

    Great narration.

  • @mrfugazi6713
    @mrfugazi6713 Місяць тому

    I love the Rolling Stones, I’ve been fortunate enough to have seen them twice, the first time was Wembley Stadium 1990 when the Stones were supposed to play in Cardiff but Keith damaged his finger and the gig had to be cancelled, so I was in the Virgin store in Oxford Street, London I decided to buy myself a Lou Reed cd so I went into the store and I grabbed my cd and went to the counter and behind the glass it said, Rolling Stones in concert Wembley Stadium so I snapped up the chance and I bought 2 tickets for just £25 each, unbelievable, it was Bill Wyman’s last ever concert with the Rolling Stones, and what a great concert it was, I managed to get tickets to see them again this time in 2018 when they played their last gig the tour of the UK in the Principality Stadium in Cardiff and I paid £85 just under, and they started the gig with Street Fighting Man and they ended the concert with a 10 minute version of Satisfaction and in my opinion the Stones were much better in 2018 then they were in 1990 believe it or not, and I think Keith and Ronnie on stage together are definitely well worth watching but, Mick and Keith treated Brian like shit in my opinion, Keith took his girlfriend, and Jagger took his band and made sure that Brian lost it all and I’ve something from a band member of the Faces that went to the Stones free concert in Hyde park, he said that Jagger was being so false about Brian’s death it made him feel sick, most of the butterflies that Jagger let go were dead and the two band members of the Faces got up and walked straight out of the concert.
    I honestly think that Brian was in a very bad way both physically and emotionally and Jagger and Richards both knew that and they just took full advantage of it, what a way to treat a so called friend, I love Keith I think he’s a pure legend but what they did to Brian was disgraceful and disgusting, Jagger and Richards I’m talking about, who needs enemies when you have friends like Jagger and Richards.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup Місяць тому

      I'm not going to judge how people behave when someone dies. We don't know what goes on behind closed doors.

  • @jonathansteadman7935
    @jonathansteadman7935 8 місяців тому +11

    Brian Jones was THE first rock star. The first to wear his girlfriend's shirts which Keith would copy, the first to bring slide guitar to British audiences.........just innovative. Listen to his guitar from the gig the first bit of footage shows, its high in the mix, raw raunchy almost punk.

    • @ronaldzent6321
      @ronaldzent6321 7 місяців тому +3

      Think Brian Jones was basically, to coin a seemingly now overused phrase, " Thrown under the Bus". Yes, the Drugs did play a part. But, he was the true musician of the group. And the most creative member. Mick was basically a prick in some ways

    • @ronaldzent6321
      @ronaldzent6321 7 місяців тому +3

      Brian even playing saxophone! Who knows how far he might have gone with another band

  • @Smokeslikelightningband
    @Smokeslikelightningband 8 місяців тому +2

    You are the best , man. Ever consider doing Charlie Parker?

  • @russelljdj
    @russelljdj 3 місяці тому

    Another excellent documentary! Thanks for your good work.

  • @rmh3657
    @rmh3657 8 місяців тому +1

    Wow, superb.........so many things I never knew about👍

  • @Pneuma3339
    @Pneuma3339 Місяць тому

    If you go listen to We Love You by The Rolling Stones, it sounds exactly like a Beatles song. Almost a complete copy of style, rhythm, psychedlic melodies, their voices, everything.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 27 днів тому

      The Beatles sing on it. Other than that I don't think it especially sounds like a Beatles song.

  • @TRICK-OR-TREAT236
    @TRICK-OR-TREAT236 7 місяців тому +2

    THE PROBLEM WITH BRIAN WAS HE WAS NOT A STONE BUT A STONER ! 😂🤣😂

  • @WonsPhreely
    @WonsPhreely 7 місяців тому +1

    Seems like someone’s been reading the Tom Keylock autobiography.

  • @NailFactoryProds
    @NailFactoryProds 8 місяців тому

    Brilliant doco mate. Well done.Subscribed.

  • @robertcronin6603
    @robertcronin6603 8 місяців тому

    Excellent...great narration and content.

  • @cjlast2132
    @cjlast2132 7 місяців тому +1

    Retroactively Jones needed a songwriting partner and maybe things would have been different.

  • @someguy42093
    @someguy42093 8 місяців тому +2

    Why did you randomly talk about Keith collapsing? This video is about Brian

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  8 місяців тому +8

      Deepest and most sincere apologies. I dont know what came over me.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому

      This narration confines itself to salacious tabloid gossipy news about the band. Very little of it is true or accurate.

    • @FlintLockwood-d3n
      @FlintLockwood-d3n 28 днів тому

      ​@@williardbillmore5713how about you make your own video if you think you have better knowledge of the stones 😂
      but oh wait... you don't have better knowledge of the stones the reality is that you're a pathetic phyco who has this weird personal vendetta against Brian Jones and that's all you'll ever be.

  • @Nick-Stewbreeze
    @Nick-Stewbreeze 8 місяців тому

    I love your content. Thank you.

  • @williardbillmore5713
    @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому +1

    Bill Wyman is the guy trying to rewrite the bands history. I am piecing together what really happened from Brian's own words.
    Interviewer--- What were you doing before you joined? ( The band)
    Brian---"um well I was just sort of bumming around waiting for something to happen really. I had quite a few jobs and uh I was trying to get a band going but it was unsuccessful until I met up with Mick and Keith" Notice he didn't say, I auditioned and chose Mick and Keith As Bills's unlikely story tells it... He said " I met up with..."
    Brian Jones explaining to an interviewer about not being able to start a band and instead joining Keith's band, The Blue Boys.
    Brian was UNSUCCESSFUL at trying to get a band going. Brian is telling us he had no band but he wanted still to be in a band.
    “The band is really an amalgamation of two bands. The one being an R&B band I formed about a year ago, and the other being a group run by Mick and Keith in S.E. London. I was introduced to Keith and we decided to pool our resources, so with Stu from my band, and Mick from Keith’s we became the nucleus of the ‘Stones.’”
    The group run by Mick and Keith in S E London was the Blue Boys. Brian went to Keith to see if he could join their band that had been founded seven months prior. "We decided to pool our resources..." is Brian's saving face way of saying that He and Ian Joined the Blue Boys.
    The Blue Boys never broke up, they just had two new members. They decided to change their name to the Rollin Stones before playing the Marquee Club but Ian was opposed to it. He hated the name so they could not arrive at a consensus... When Brian was talking to the Jazz News on the phone about publicizing their debut he was asked their name. He Gave the name the band had discussed, making it official. It makes a great story, that he just looked down, but there were no Muddy Waters album covers on the floor of the phone booth. Think about it...They could hardly afford heat and food they certainly couldn't afford a residential phone,

  • @Reprodestruxion
    @Reprodestruxion 7 місяців тому

    Basically just like Altamont and the Tate LaBianca murders, Brisn being ousted spelt the death of hippyism. So thats 2 for the Stones

  • @richardslifer1052
    @richardslifer1052 8 місяців тому +2

    Great channel.

  • @AvaRose00
    @AvaRose00 8 місяців тому +2

    Very entertaining but how the hell do you know what Brian said when he was tripping… how about saying something on the positive side!!!!

  • @atlanteantruth
    @atlanteantruth 8 місяців тому +2

    Everything about this video was fantastic.

  • @efolson
    @efolson 7 місяців тому +4

    I've heard this narrative over many years how Brian was the true founder and musical genius of the Stones, and how Mick and Keith took over and pushed him out, but I have yet to see or hear any definitive performance of Brian Jones singing or playing. I have never heard any songs that he actually wrote or performed by himself. No studio clips that show him as a virtuoso on anything. Is there any content out there, audio or video that actually shows Brian as musical genius??

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому +3

      Unfortunately no.There are no performances or material that justifies the adoration Brian gets. It seems that his good looks are all that they can come up with to Justify their blind devotion and lies and fantasies about this very mediocre musician

    • @Reprodestruxion
      @Reprodestruxion 7 місяців тому +1

      The bluddy arrangements like Ruby Tuesday and paint it black, imagine him with a synthesiser

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому

      @@Reprodestruxion jONES HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WRITING OR ARRANGING OF EITHER ONE OF THE SONGS YOU MENTIONED.RUBY TUESDAY WAS WRITTEN SOLELY BY KEITH RICHARDS AND ARRANGED BY JACK NITZSCHE, THE SAME GUY WHO PLAYS kEITH'S BRILLIANT COMPOSITION ON THE PIANO. ALL BRIAN DID IN PAINT IT BLACK WAS TO COPY kEITH'S SINGLE NOTE GUITAR LINE NOTE FOR NOTE ON A SITAR.
      BRIAN WAS A POSER.

    • @williardbillmore5713
      @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Reprodestruxion Jones played a mellotron, an early kind of synthesizer on Their Satanic Majesties Request
      Studio album by The Rolling Stones.
      It was not outstanding.

    • @carlsaganlives5112
      @carlsaganlives5112 5 місяців тому

      That's because he wasn't. A smattering of fills on other instruments besides guitar here and there was a cool novelty, but c'mon that's not the definition of a prodigy. 'Genius' in today's parlance, man, is anything above average.

  • @steliosposeidon6871
    @steliosposeidon6871 7 місяців тому +2

    At 16.00 Brian looks like a 90’s Bowie!

  • @RichRobinson
    @RichRobinson Місяць тому

    To me, Keith Richard’s did something I consider to be totally unforgivable. I’ve always thought that “stealing his girl” is something you never do, especially to a friend… and founding band member. That’s a horrible thing for someone to go through and then have to show up and be creative with a bunch of dudes who sat back and let it happen. Fuck being in a band with who behave like that.

  • @Narcjus
    @Narcjus 7 місяців тому

    Justice for Brian Jones.

  • @AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp
    @AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp 4 місяці тому

    If Keith was wasted at the R&R Circus, he still played great

  • @stepanbandera5206
    @stepanbandera5206 8 місяців тому

    Mick & Keith hired the hit.

  • @neilstern7108
    @neilstern7108 8 місяців тому

    Egos, heck I got a guy to sing for a group, one few times and he thought he was Mick Jagger.

  • @billyshane3804
    @billyshane3804 4 місяці тому

    Brian Jones - STOP YOUR DRUGS

  • @donnajean3202
    @donnajean3202 4 місяці тому

    You said Anita dove into the pool and Anna pulled him out of the pool. Other than that mistake, great documentary.

  • @someguy42093
    @someguy42093 8 місяців тому +2

    Who the fuck is Tom key lock? I’ve never heard that name ever until now

    • @BigSky1
      @BigSky1 7 місяців тому +1

      Tom Keylock was The Stones driver and Tour Manager. He was their Mr Fixit until 1969.
      You can see him in The Hyde Park film from 1969 and in the studio with the band while filming Goddards ‘Sympathy For The Devil’.
      He was at Brian’s home before and after he died.

  • @Stechamppn
    @Stechamppn 3 дні тому

    The real harcore stone was Anita..... that women sure lived a full life

  • @williardbillmore5713
    @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому +4

    The Rolling Stones, as we know them, were formed when one October day in 1961 Keith noticed the hard to find R&B albums under Mick's arm on the Dartford train platform #2 and recognized his old classmate from primary school and started up a conversation. The blue plaque honoring that moment Remains in place there as it should.
    Research into Wyman's silly claims of Brian forming the band gave reason for Wyman's objections to be eventually dismissed by the town Council, and the historic blue plaque remains there in it's original and accurate wording to this day.
    Their enduring and unique musical partnership has withstood the test of time and given us one of the most successful rock bands in history.

  • @DesertScorpionKSA
    @DesertScorpionKSA 7 місяців тому +1

    Never go full psychedelic!

  • @terrapin9ify
    @terrapin9ify 8 місяців тому

    ❤thanks

  • @Charles-h1x
    @Charles-h1x 7 місяців тому

    I told die hard colleague i disliked ol carp lips 80s stuff like state of shock and the revolting song and video Lets work.he acted like i was lying.Idol Denial was my diagnosis

  • @spiritualarchitect4276
    @spiritualarchitect4276 7 місяців тому

    I thought Dylan wrote "Like A Rolling Stone" about Brian Jones?

    • @reubenrozeyt5716
      @reubenrozeyt5716 Місяць тому

      Dylan covered the song like most of his early discography

  • @NailFactoryProds
    @NailFactoryProds 8 місяців тому

    Charlie: "Bad Luck" lmao

  • @morganclare4704
    @morganclare4704 7 місяців тому +1

    JJJ didn't go number 1 in the usa.

  • @Richard-g4u1r
    @Richard-g4u1r 7 місяців тому

    Anita Pallenberg was the fire in out of the frying pan into the fire.

  • @mikehunt5574
    @mikehunt5574 7 місяців тому +1

    Jagger and Richards kicked him out of the band he formed. Their best music was with Mick Taylor playing lead in my opinion.

  • @neonfroot
    @neonfroot 8 місяців тому +2

    Arent The Rolling Stones originally a bunch of prep school kids?

  • @williardbillmore5713
    @williardbillmore5713 7 місяців тому +2

    "To be honest, Brian had no talent for writing songs. None. I've never known a guy with less talent for songwriting --- Mick Jagger

  • @Charles-h1x
    @Charles-h1x 7 місяців тому

    The other stones definitely come across as kind and caring, sympathetic ,well they probably might allegedly take nickels off dead folks eyes,maybe.not an indicment ,merely observation. At least Da Nuge showed respect on Cat scratch fever record.RIP Mr.real rolling stone.

  • @drobbi
    @drobbi 3 дні тому

    The Stones had so many bad ideas!

  • @francoisraphaelhelstone7761
    @francoisraphaelhelstone7761 7 місяців тому

    The real musical talent within the Rolling Stones was undeniable Brian Jones. However Jagger/Jones strived to become the next Lenon/Macartny without any succes. What or who ever killed Brian The emotional killers and egocentric persons are known. His unprofessional attitude was the result of the non empathic behaviour of MJ/KR so why say sorry after the deed many years later? It's 'good' Dylan ('he knows what it means to be overrated') got the Nobel price on literature, peace making was not his strong partner, arrogance for sure!

  • @KennethKanife
    @KennethKanife 5 місяців тому +1

    Dude was way overrated he played couple weird instruments and slide guitar the stones would've been just fine without him

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 4 місяці тому

      In other words, you know absolutely nothing about 60s Stones. Jog on, troll.

  • @StretchMcGillicudy
    @StretchMcGillicudy 2 місяці тому

    The inflated lore of a marginally talented bloke.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 2 місяці тому

      Imagine thinking any of the Rolling Stones is "marginally talented." Nonsense.

  • @matthewche
    @matthewche 7 місяців тому

    He dies 3/4 into the video.

  • @allenfaulkner9697
    @allenfaulkner9697 7 місяців тому +4

    Brian turned out to be a crybaby

  • @yournamehere7182
    @yournamehere7182 7 місяців тому

    The Rolling Jones

  • @zigzagwandra
    @zigzagwandra 15 днів тому

    11:40 lol

  • @josegoncalves8521
    @josegoncalves8521 7 місяців тому

    What a waste of a life .

  • @JayAr709
    @JayAr709 8 місяців тому

    Brian was an Eagle, Don Felder, to a Henley & Fry, and a Beatle, Pete Best, to Paul & John.

  • @Einnor084
    @Einnor084 7 місяців тому

    2 bad.....
    I'd probably like The Rolling Stones, if Jones had of survived & had his musicianship & any other creativity, he had 2 offer.
    Brian, had so much talent, dat he coulda started his own band. If he couldn't stomach dis, Jimi Hendrix, woulda LOVED his help wit arranging new nstrumentz, n2 his muzak.
    RIP
    U were my favorite Rolling Stone.

  • @vvcv__00
    @vvcv__00 6 місяців тому +1

    This is some horribly written sheeet!!!!! The writing jumps from one fact to another, without a single connection, or train of thought, between two random facts stated back to back.
    And what's with the narrator annunciating every other word... i.e.Example: "Then he PAST out on the FLOOR and SAW PEOPLE"?

  • @raulzim7143
    @raulzim7143 7 місяців тому

    assinou pacto com o inferno , o invisível o assassinou sympathy for the devil o levou pro inferno.