Brian JONES: Song WRITER In His Own RIGHT
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- Опубліковано 28 січ 2024
- The Rolling Stones
Brian Jones, the founding member of The Rolling Stones, was a multi-talented musician and a pivotal figure in the 1960s rock and roll scene. He was the Rolling Stones' chameleon, weaving sonic tapestries into their early fabric, before succumbing to a darkness that ultimately painted him out of the picture.
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- Brian Jones and The Stones 2023 (BBC Two)
- Wikipedia
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Bo Diddley described Jones as "a little dude that was trying to pull the group ahead. I saw him as the leader. He didn't take no mess. He was a fantastic cat; he handled the group beautifully. He’s the only white cat that ever got my rhythm.” - Bo Diddley speaking of Rolling Stone, Brian Jones, 1963
i believe what Bo said was " he was the only cat."...So,he was including the brothers too.....More to Brian's credit.
@@brendankane3546
Agreed. ;)
you are conflating two different quotes-and injecting race.From Stone Alone,Bill Wyman , page 156-also Mandy Aftel Death of a Rolling Stone page 65.Here is the first verbatim quote.Reflecting on the 1963 tour ,Mr.Diddley states "When I met Brian he was playing slide and harmonica.His slide guitar was great,especially to be as young as he was.Brian was a little dude that was trying to pull the group ahead.I saw him as their leader.He didn't take no mess .He was a fantastic cat. He handled the group beautifully"......about a year later,after hearing "Mona",Mr Diddley states "Brian was the only cat,he knew, who worked out the secret of it all " (Wyman page 180- Aftel page 65.)
".... He's the only white cat that ever got rhythm... " Apparently Bo missed Bix Bidderbeck, Herb Ellis, Tal Farlow and others. Look at the jazz world. There are plenty of examples of white cats with rhythm. Bo made a ridiculous statement.
@@KenTeel
Sure what you say but Brian Jones just stands out !!!!
Brian was the musical alchemist in the Stones. Both Brian and Bill should have received credits as songwriters or cowriters for Songs like Ruby Tuesday, Jumpin Jack Flash, Child of the Moon or some of Their Satanic Majesties Request! Marianne Faithfull for example is on record saying she heard Brisn play the melody of Ruby Tuesday a whole year before it was recorded!
Thanks again to Bill for standing up for Brian❤
Mick and Keith took credit for every song. I believe if you are part of the creation of a song in the studio you should probably get some kind of credit even if it’s a small credit. Mick Taylor certainly deserved that much for his brilliant playing on the Stones albums during his tenure with them.
Mick Taylor was another one who was treated like 💩💩 by Jagger and Richards.
Brian Jones wasn't known as a composer but he DID do the soundtrack for the German film with Anita Pallenberg which name I can't remember. One of Jones' riffs ( I forget which song ) was based on a piece by John Dowland the Elizabethan lute composer. Jones' mother was a classical music teacher and his father was an enthusiastic amateur. Blues was something he discovered by himself.
It was the music business, drugs and probably weak character that destroyed Brian Jones. Keith Richards tries to be very dismissive of Brian Jones in his book, underplays his influence and talent. Richards was known to be very jealous of people more talented than himself, playing wise, as Mick Taylor discovered. Pallenberg dumped Jones and set up with Richards. She later made HIS life hell with her drug and alcoholic rages. She completely demolished several hotel rooms while Richards cowered in the corner. It's all in his book, Life. So there was SOME Karma there. Richards described Anita as a female Hitler who wanted to take everything down with her like the last act of Götterdämerung.
The split certainly unbalanced Jones, although to be fair he was pretty unbalanced to start with. So like the teacher in South Park said : Remember kids. Drugs are BAD.
Mord und totschlag by Volker Schlöndorff. English title was : Degree of Murder.
Brian wrote the music for the film "A degree of murder". Jimmy Page guitar played with Brian who played various instruments like Sitar.
In the late nineties I met Mick Taylor and welcomed him to my radio show where he gave me a long fascinating interview. One reason he left the Stones was that he didn't receive songwriter credits for his songs like "Moonlight Mile" or "Sway" 😮 Mick Taylor composed the music, Mick Jagger the words. But the credits read Jagger-Richards
Brain Jones was brilliant!
Love to Bill Wyman for championing Brian’s important contributions. Have never heard Mick or Kieth do the same.
Then you haven't been paying attention.
@@crichards1986
Please enlighten me. Direct me to where they do.
Mick Jagger is generally nicer about Brian Jones than Richards who said that Jones was in "bye bye land. " Richards is generally derogatory about Jones, but then again he stole Pallenberg from Jones.
@@stewartcohen-jones2949 we'll never hear from the id't again
I remember Charlie saying about Brian he was an asshole, this was decades after Brian died. That book they co wrote, barely mentions Brian or Bill. I think, since Mick has been reaching out more now, at his age you start going to friends funerals. Old arguments seem less important. Bill playing on the last album supports that.
Brian. Jones was the best ever rolling stone RIP Brian 👍👍👍
ditching a founding member who was a component of the magic it took to propel a band to success is an insult to the harmony of the universe
Let's not forget the mellotron Brian played on "2000 Light Years From Home" that gives it it's outer space feel. Also his harmonica playing on the early blues songs. He plays a dulcimer on "Lady Jane" and of course sitar on "Paint It Black".Brian played something like 20 different instruments on Stones records.
That ain't songwriting
The dulcimer in "Lady Jane" is what gave it its unique vibe. It was Brian's contributions to the Stones recordings that made them the Beatles' primary rivals in breaking new musical ground during the 1960s.
@@slimturnpike I didn't say it was but Brian made the Stones songs great.
@@rogerdodger6025 Fair enough
So Progressif!
Thank You For This Great Video, And Thank You Bill Wyman for Being in it, It’s Great to see you Bill. So sorry you left The Stones. You’re a Legend. Brian Jones was A Great Arranger, Great Idea’s, and Played any Instrument, He Also played the Clearinet in Citidel. The Rolling Stones are Great and Awesome but Without Brian Jones Arrangement’s in the Music It Wouldn’t have had That Good Sound !!!
Sad to see how Brian Jones just couldn't fit in with the band's direction but thank u to bill Wyman for his insight 😮
Thank you too...Glad you enjoyed it
I was once a guitarist in a band where the singer wrote everything. He rarely allowed anyone else to write. But I loved it! I got to play whatever I wanted within his song and I think that's what Brian did very well. He'd be like "hmm, let me grab this _______ and let's see how it sounds." He was always exploring instruments.
Very true, and I've only arranged music for myself. Brian seemed to be capable of anything, I wish he could have lived longer.@@PeterScamx3
Yeah he got a bit carried away with the drugs. Perhaps he was just bored with the Stones. I've seen all the theories about his death but I've always wondered if he did simply just commit suicide. The thought of the Stones playing without him (at Hyde Park) could have been just to unbearable for him. And he died as you know just two days before the concert.@@PeterScamx3
“Had Brian Jones not taken his guitar to this cellar bar…impressed Alexis Korner with his playing, relocated to London and formed The Rolling Stones, the world’s cultural history would have been very different. There would have been no pop industry as we know it today, with its ever present musical acknowledgment of the influence of the blues. The pentatonic minor scale, which can be heard ad infinitum on countless electric guitar tracks recorded over the last six decades, would probably rarely be heard. And countless young people who came of age in the 1960s, including this writer, would never have become fascinated by a sound originally created by the descendants of black slaves in the Americas.”-John Phillpott, Blues in Britain, 2024
The Brian Jones era was the real Rolling Stones era🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸❤❤❤❤❤❤
Bill Wyman, great bass player, and interesting to interview.
Even 55 years after his untimely death, Brian Jones is still missed. His influence on the early Stones is undisputed. With his contribution to the music of the Stones, he remains immortal, even if the authorship belongs to the others.
Brian Jones was and will be the most important and most talented in the history of his Band, the Rolling!
The. Rolling stones!!
Those early songs like She's a Rainbow, Ruby Tuesday, Lady Jane, Paint it Black have Brian Jones' mark on them. I'm not saying he wrote them. Officially they were Jagger / Richards, but so was everything they produced. They recently revisited one of those early songs. I saw it on YT. Richards tried his best but it just didn't sound the same as when Jones was playing. Not by a long shot. Richards in his book says that Jones was washed up and finished and death was inevitable. It isn't what many other people say. I'm saying nothing about Jones ' death. This isn't the appropriate place. But the tragedy is he died so young. He had so much more to give. Personally I think he should have gone in another direction altogether and left rock and blues behind. I'm thinking folk and folk rock. The British bands emerging in the late sixties and early seventies included Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span, Lindisfarne and others. Later Gryphon and when Ashley Hutchings left Fairport Convention, the Albion Band. Brian Jones certainly had the instrumental chops for that kind of music. It was never to be.
Even Bill Wyman left the Stones. Richards wrote snotty comments about Wyman "leaving the world's greatest rock band to open a chip shop". Sticky Fingers is actually an upmarket hamburger joint with lots of Stones memorabilia but let that pass. As a side line when not flipping burgers, Wyman founded Bill Wyman 's The Rhythm Kings who are brilliant and probably totally unknown in America. He has / had people like Georgie Fame and Albert Lee jamming along on various numbers. They'd never fill a stadium in the Midwest of course but who cares ?
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw What for a fascinating comment.. I agree with you! Brian was the most charismatic musician of them all! Keith maybe wrote in his book all this, he was only jealous about BRIAN JONES! And Keith was very ill with drugs, much more as Brian!. It's sad he isn't here to defend his Life 😢.. Brian will be never forgotten!!
Brian Jones was a very versatile and talented musician. Perhaps he can be criticised for having breadth but little depth. That may be true but certainly his experimentation with marimba, sitars, melotrons, recorders etc gave many of the early Stones songs their unique sound that only HE could. Had he lived I'm certain whatever direction he decided to go, it would have been fascinating.
And it's true that Richards and Pallenberg both became very badly addicted to heroin. There's a scene in the Brian Jones biopic Stoned where Anita Pallenberg says to Jones, " Me and Keith can handle the drugs. You can't. You just go to pieces ".
Well they certainly didn't handle the drugs in subsequent years. Pallenberg went dangerously psychotic and Richards had many cold turkey cures with subsequent relapses. They weren't as cool as they imagined themselves.
Brain was a head of his time and The Stones didn’t get it, but in Keith and Mick defense, they were just too young to understand that. A little bit of Patience and it would’ve been a whole different story. There’s a reason why john Lennon and Hendrix liked Brain, cause they knew he was Different?
So true !
There is a good story of when as a youngster Al Dimeola first got into a band...after a while they told him they were disbanding and giving up..he was upset ..but later the reformed with another guitarist ...so that spurred him into becoming a world class guitarist ..I wonder now if those band members (who never made it in music) think of that.
Al has said if he had his time over he would not do it again he would have had another career in something else ..not music
Always thought the RS Jones Era was by far the best
A true genius
Alas he had demons
Brian took the stage and introduced the Jimi Hendrix Experience at the Monterey pop festival in June, 1967. Brian and Jimi would have made an interesting collaboration had they been so inclined.
"In 1966, I witnessed, on numerous occasions, the remarkable spell Brian would cast while working in the recording studio. Mick and Keith would bring songs in, Brian would listen and effectively take charge, and everyone was in awe of him. He was a real perfectionist. While recording the recorder part in Ruby Tuesday he explained to me that he had to do it over again as he had been a quarter tone off tune."--Prince Stash Klossowski de Rola (artist and friend of the Stones) in Brian Jones: Butterfly in the Park.
Exactly😊
Brian Jone's slide guitar on "No Expectations" is absolutely beautiful, and alongside Nicky Hopkins piano makes it a most underrated Rolling Stones song.
BTW, Keef has stated Ry Cooder played slide on "No Expectations" but he has become an unreliable narrator, mostly by virtue of his fact challenged autobiogaraphy "Life" and the attempt by the Glimmers to erase the very existence of Brian for over half a century. This is an informative tribute to the essence of The Rolling Stones but wished it contained Brian's iconic riff from "The Last Time" while his playing of the Mellotron and electric dulcimer on "2000 Light Years From Home" provides the spacey and spooky mood of the track. After hearing the Japanese remastered SACD of "Their Satanic Majesties Request" with Brian's contributions evident throughout if "Sing This All Together..." had been replaced with "We Love You" the LP would now be considered a psychedelic masterpiece.
Brian became less and less happy with the group's musical direction and the original frontman was intentionally being pushed further and further to a lowers status by their gay manager Andrew Loog Oldham. His sexual preference is stated since it's another area of potential conflict. Take "Satisfaction" for example. On the official release, Brian's accoustic rhythm guitar is barely audible while Stu's piano is nearly non-existent. This track was recorded at Chess Studios and an official stereo recording exists only available in Germany and Japan on CD at one time. It's properly mixed with Keef's fuzz prominent and Brian's and Stu's playing clearly audible on the other channel. It's preferrable to the official release but even when ABKCO released a stereo version in 2002 on SACD, the wrong mix was used. No Jones No Stones!
@@MarkRoberts-bj2me What a load of fan boy baloney.
So the two guys who wrote and performed their song don't count at all huh?
@@williardbillmore5713 This cat may have been a "fan boy" at 14 when seeing the Brian Jones Stones at Arie Crowne Theatre in Chicago in '65 and seeing him play "The Last Time" as well as their newest hit but "Satisfaction" but at 73, the label doesn't stick. Like most detractors, you call someone a name but never provide any reasoning. Mostly, individuals such as yourself have difficulty engaging whatever small mass of grey cells available in their thick skull.
@@MarkRoberts-bj2me i looked in Keith's book,and , predictably,he said no such thing-Ry Cooder is mentioned twice,but not in relation to that song at all.He played on early versions of "Sister Morphine" and "Memo From Turner "-and video of Brian playing slide on "No Expectations", is only a few key-strokes away. My,how times have changed.
I must state,the work Brian did on the Hammond organ is quite amazing on the LP After Math ,the sound adds so much ,and so unique. Hey I love it. Never heard nothing quite like it.
Yes,at RCA studios they used the church Hammond (CV) at Olympic they had an un-desirable model Hammond. At Chess in Chicago,Stu and Brian both played the mighty Hammond B-3.
Talented multi instrumentalist who contributed much.
Brian Jones's extraordinary musical talent should have led to many song writing credits
The magic was gone when he left, and the Stones became a normal, albeit still excellent rock band
His contribution on 'My dear lady Jane' made the track great. Songwriting is not eveything in music, it has to be arranged and performed. He was brilliant.
THIS is the best tribute to Brian Jones I've seen yet...Brian did bring the brilliant individuality of each song out 🌼 i have always loved the earlier years of the Rolling Stones
The 'Brian Jones' era
In Bill's book "Stone Alone", he mentioned how he and Brian did all the backing vocals on their early songs until Andrew put a stop to it.
Yes. Like i said, Andrew Oldham was a LOT to blame for how the focus shifted in the Stones. He had no business in just promoting Mick & Keith!! Brian & Bill did some excellent backing vocals on a lot of those early songs!!
@@TigerRogers0660 Right!!!
Mick and Keith may have been the songwriters for The Stones but it was Brian who filled those songs with the colors with his creative musical ideas.
As I said thanks to his mother he had a strong classical background. If he'd lived I think it would have become more apparent. In Britain the early seventies was a period of folk and early music revival.
“Brian Jones was indeed the father of what we now regard as world music…Brian’s championing of ethnic players such as the Moroccan Master Musicians of Joujouka back in 1967 should be regarded as groundbreaking artistic development, portents of the future.”-John Phillpott, Blues in Britain
Wow. It's like George Harrison never existed
@@DrTomoculus The album “Brian Jones Presents the Pipes of Pan at Jajouka” is considered the first World Music release.
Well that's a shame because
A. Although it was recorded in July 1968, it wasn't released until 1971. By that time, George Harrison had already been "presenting" world music all the way back to REVOLVER and SGT.PEPPER with "Love You To" and "Within You Without You" respectively. I mean, his move to pick up the Sitar and get it recorded for Western audiences is unprecedented to start with. It makes him one of the most important Western composers in Music History. Because his peers and predecessors all IMITATED the instruments of the East, but never performed on them. They invented a brand new instrument because of George Harrison! The Electric Sitar. How many instruments have to be INVENTED to accommodate a musician's impact on culture??
B. What is that classification "World Music"? Is it "White Person Presents Music of Other Coloured Peoples to Other White People?" Is this the criteria? It seems to be in the presentation "first world music release." Pop Star Goes Native.
Then again, George Harrison already did that in 1966. There's barely any other Beatle on some of his tracks in this period. It's Indian musicians and his presentation of the West on the East.
But he did it again in 1968 with the recording and release of WONDERWALL MUSIC. Because that's "World Music" there too. A hybrid of East & West in fact.
Brian Jones is most definitely integral in World Music terms, but pretending like George Harrison doesn't exist to favour that position, doesn't do you any favours. It discredits your point. @rPup
@@DrTomoculus Ask the Moroccan musicians, they credit Brian for making their music famous. And George has always been my favorite Beatle, so you can kindly back off. :)
Well then you know I'm right. No backing off is necessary, because Harrison is your favourite Beatle, what I'm saying is correct, and nah nah nah :)@@TheaterPup
Jones got edged out... that's business; threes a crowd. Brian's prodigious and exotic multi instrumental talent on their best hits [in their best period] got M and K legendary hit making status.
Brilliant presentation I must say. Though I've been a Stones fan since the mid 70s (Hot Rocks 1964-1971 compilation was their fist album i bought) I knew very little of about this enigmatic performer....Thank you
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! 🎶✨🙌😉💕
Thanks, interesting.
This would be quite a good story with a human narrator
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day ❤😊
Thank you...Same to you!
Brian's looking up to you bill. Definitely lost to the stones. Back then.
Thank You 🙏 Bill Wyman for defend and honour Brian Jones 👏. Thank You for telling the ONLY Truth 🙏.. BRIAN JONES WAS THE MOST CHARISMATIC MUSICIAN THE FOUNDER OF THIE STONES..HIS BAND AND ALWAYS WILL BE!!! HIS MEMORY LIVES FOREVER.. LEGENDS DON'T DIE.. THEY ARE IMMORTAL FOREVER!!!.. HE HAD IT ALL , TALENT , BEAUTY, INTELLIGENT, WITHOUT HIM WE NEVER KNEW THE STONE! HIS BAND! AFTER BRIAN NOTHING WERE THE SAME THY SHOULD CHANGE THE NAME OF ( HIS) BAND!! THANK YOU BRIAN JONES 🌟🌟 🌹🌹 WE ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU, ALWAYS IN OUR HEARTS ❤️❤️🌹 BEAUTIFUL MULTITALEND ORIGINAL ROLLING STONE!! R E S P E C T 🙏💮🙏❤️❤️💖💖💖💖
Sorry friend's about my mistakes, i just wake up, ans saw this special video... SPECIAL IS BRIAN TOO! LOVE HIM FOREVER 💖
Well said !!! :)
Makes me realise how tremendous Brian was. Those contributions to the records are so good.
Always my fave Rolling Stone.
Sehr gut heute, diese Würdigung von Bryan Jones musikalischen Fähigkeiten und brillante instrumentale Beherrschung von vielen, auch ungewöhnlichen Musikinstrumenten...
Die damalige Zeit war wohl auch eine experimentelle Zeitepoche...aber der Erfolg kam schnell...
🎼🎶🎵🔝👌💯...
Brian formed the STONES.
Myth
Brian started and named the group, gave the songs needed musical color, and gave the group style….any questions?
Bill said it was wrong to put a blue plaque on the railway station they first formed the group ..because Brian had already formed it before that meeting
Andrew Oldham has a lot to blame here. He made the decision to promote Keith & Mick - & push Brian to the back. This resulted in Mick & Keith getting bigger egos. Brian & Bill could have developed into great songwriters, given plenty of encouragement. As it stands Brian & Bill should have gotten co-songwriting credits on many of those early songs.
Nonsense...all lies
Mick and Keith initiated the song sketches. Brian added his magic and finished them, sadly without the credit he deserved.
@@jackielitten2865 Nonsense. Brian Jones could not improvise or create anything musical
All he could do is copy
@@williardbillmore5713 From what i've read, Brian created the riff to "The Last Time" & played it to perfection. That MADE that song!!
@@TigerRogers0660That is true. Keith said in Beat Monthly magazine in 1965 that Brian came up with the riff for The Last Time and so he played it while Keith himself came up with Satisfaction and played it.
What about Brian's fantastic slide guitar on No Expectations
Indeed, though he may be gone his music and inspired skill still lives on. The Stones haven't credited him enough. Brian R.I.P🙏🏽
Brian played the sitar on Paint it Black .
At last, the genius of Brian Jones is now being highlighted. His production and musical arrangements propelled the Stones into Stardom. In my opinion he was more like George Martin(Beatles producer). This was Brian’s band and not Jagger/Richards.
You are right my friend, it really was Brian's Band! After so many years and believe Brian is more popular than Mick and Keith! Forever remembered 🎸🎶
Well said !
@@elenikorkodelaki2695
Exactly . :)
Mick & Keith's songs 'propelled the Stones into stardom'!!
Of that there can be no doubt!! 😄
Ripping off the members of song credits helped them to. For sure !!!!! :)
No Brian Jones, no Stones. His multi instrumental ability was great. He deserves a statue
Brilliant idea.
Many great songwriters emerged from the shadow of a former brilliant leader - Pink Floyd, Genesis, Nirvana, Depeche Mode.. the list goes on and on.
Their music changed when he was gone not the same
Rollin' Jones
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Brian Jones WAS (the heart and soul) the Rolling Stones 1962-68.
Jones had no soul...He was a psychopath.
In your opinion.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gwI would say in the opinion of his six children and their mothers whom he abandoned to grow up fatherless in abject poverty while he lived the posh overindulgent life of a millionaire rock star. What kind of a scumball maggot treats his own flesh and blood like that?
How do you think they felt when they got old enough to realize that daddy was a famous millionaire who threw them away like yesterday;s garbage because being seen with them may have put a dent in his fashion image?
It goes way beyond my opinion that he was a psychopath and a malignant narcissist.
It's what he did and who he was.
@@williardbillmore5713 the most appalling ,mean-spirited comment that i have ever seen.How did this ever make it past the Censorship Bureau ?
Obviously you know very little about his history. Before he lived the "posh overindulgence life of a millionaire rock star" or rather before ANY OF THEM did, they lived in a poorly furnished disgustingly grotty flat in Edith Grove. They were penniless for a very long time. They had no money to feed themselves let alone children. When success came it came quite suddenly and then they were on the road. One year they did 300 plus shows in one year. Travelling in vans sleeping where they could then gigs. Usually one a day. They were making money. For Andrew Loog Oldham. Later for Decca. They were hardly millionaires. They were slaves of the record label.
Jones had his faults. Of course he did. But a millionaire lifestyle, hardly. Like many bands of that era, there was a huge income in record sales, of which they saw very little as CASH. Sure, they could buy things for which management paid. That included Cotchford Farm where Jones died. But to say he was Howard Hughes is plain stupid. The Stonrd were effectively bankrupt in 1971/2, yet they owed the UK exchequer millions in earnings they'd never seen. By that stage Jones was dead.
Later on Richards and Jagger met Prince (?) Loewenstein a very well connected financier and fan who helped them get on top of their finances. The stadium tours of the seventies weren't because of love if stadiums. They were about money. Pure and simple. That's when they really became seriously rich. And they had their OWN label by then. Their sixties catalogue doesn't even belong to them. It's the property of ABKCO Allen B Klein corporation. Their manager agent parasite fixer. He helped them make money, but they signed away their music. At least up to that time.
Jones was sexually incontinent. There's no doubt about that. He wasn't alone. There were many others like him in that era. That included trysts with underage girls. Very common in the seventies.
Immature and confused, he was. A psychopath, I very much doubt it.
I really like your perspective on Under My Thumb and your descriptions of what he contributed to the songs you mention here. Two things though. First off it has been proven that the Hendrix tape Bill claims has Brian on it is in fact Dave Mason. Look it up. Secondly Ruby Tuesday was inspired by Linda Keith who had a relationship with both Brian and Kieth. As far as I know Tuesday Weld played no part in it though that's an intriguing idea. Lastly I enjoyed your video but it would be much cooler with human narration
Thank you...Glad you like it!
Very true. It was Dave Mason and not Brian on sitar with Noel Redding singing,
The Nanker Phelge group composition credit was dispensed with very early on, for obvious reasons: it didn't make Jagger and Richards look like the only brains of the outfit. "Play with Fire" was the first truly great Stones composition, and the Glimmers didn't want further songs of that caliber being credited to the entire band (particularly not to Jones, who played a significant role in the sound of "Play with Fire"). They demanded all of the glory and all of the royalties. By the time "Ruby Tuesday" was recorded, they had established their monopoly and there was no danger of Jones being credited as a co-writer--despite the fact that he obviously *had* contributed to the song.
FYI Brian does not play on Play With Fire and neither do Bill and Charlie.
Mick, Keith, Phil Spector and Jack Nitzsche are the only people on it.
@@BigSky1 Because it was recorded at 7 in the morning and the rest of the band had fallen asleep, yes. I didn't say that they played on it, but that Brian had a significant effect on the final product. The folky stuff was his forte, much as that may have pained him.
Right🙌
Please do a video about “Their Satanic Majesties Request” ❤
Still the favourite Stones album for my brother and me😀
Co-wrote "8 Miles High" in a hotel room with Gene Clark but didn't get a songwriting credit.
He told Gene he didn’t want one.
BRIAN JONES and MICK TAYLOR both had alot to do with the creation of certain songs but everything was credited to JAGGER-RICHARDS. that's just how it was in THE STONES. GEORGE HARRISON also had a very big hand in the creation of many BEATLES songs but the credit always went to LENNON-McCARTNEY.
Well, except when the credit went to GEORGE HARRISON, as with Something, Here Comes the Sun, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Piggies, Blue Jay Way, Taxman, Don’t Bother Me, etc. etc.
One of the worlds best producers that never was.
Don't think the video quite makes the case for Jones as a songwriter. He certainly contributed ideas and instrumental colors to the Stones original music, but he was in a band with two powerhouse creators and was unable to assert himself that way. If he had genuine writing talent I think he would have done it. On the other hand, I've never heard what seems to be Brian demo-ing an original song in the video, and that was intriguing. Wonder why there wasn't more comment on that. Interesting point was made about Brian's marimba on Under My Thumb representing a sensitive, feminine counterpoint to the lyric. But the video will be misleading to those who don't know the full story. He was sensitive, but he was also a divided soul who fathered and then ignored a number of children and was known to be quite physically abusive to his female partners.
TRES Heavy=The Blues!
Brian should have had song writing credit for Under My Thumb along with Mick and Keith.
They did not mention him playing on "Lady Jane"
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Brian was a genius.
He played all those unique parts and sounds on Beggars Banquet.. for the last time and without credit...starting their best era.
Brian played very little on Beggars Banquet!!
'No Expectations' being his only real contribution & sadly his last. He was mostly 'wasted' by then.
All of the fantastic guitar playing was Keith's!!
@@petermills542 Are you sure about that ? what tracks do not include Brian ??
That’s not true. He played on most the tracks on BB, just not so much guitar, mostly harmonica and melatron, but he did contribute possibly the best guitar on the album in the shape of No Expectations. He’s not on Let It Bleed though, well 99%.
@@petermills542 Oh maybe its Satanic, that I thought he played a lot of significant parts that make many songs unique and amazing, whereas he seemd to be written off as a basket case but could actually play all kinds of sounds which carried songs, which really is the whole point isnt it. Its not like Keiths any sort of virtuoso.
@@brendankane3546 Brian plays something on every track except Salt Of The Earth.
He possibly plays one of the 2 harps on Parachute Woman and possibly the Mellotron on Factory Girl.
Otherwise he features on every song.
Whatever they thought of Brian, without him the Stones wouldn't have ever even exsisted! His work was done by 1969, and it was a shame. But that's the truth. Mick would be a banker or something or maybe a teacher. Keith I'm not sure what he would have done. Bill & Charlie would have happily gone back to their old lives. Models and young women wouldnt fancy them. Brian opened doors from them that werent open before.
If Brian would of been included with the Writing & Publishing💲Credit. That he Truly deserved for the counter Melodies. 🎶 Like the xylophone on "Under my Thumb" Or the Sitar on "Paint it Black" The lap harp on "Lady Jane" The Cello & Flute part on "Ruby Tuesday" His Career would of turned out in a more positive direction! Instead of Andrew Oldem treating him the way he did! Fame changes people & Brian was no Angle! He had his prima donna ways no doubt!
There is no cello on Ruby Tuesday. There is a double bass that was played by both Bill and Keith because Bill’s Hands were too small to finger the fret’s and bow.
Marimba on Under My Thumb and not Xylophone.
@@BigSky1 Yes your right! It certainly sounded like a Chello with 🎧
No Jones....no Stones !
He’s supposed to have written part of the music with Keith to Ruby Tuesday. Marianne Faithful claims she heard him come up with an early version of the melody. Jagger admits he didn’t write it. The other thing to mention is that i don’t think Brian cared about credits. There’s the story about Eight Miles High too but I don’t think he had much to do with it.
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He had the Steve almond spirit of the height era increased into him by a fully looking wind pier at the hollow. So in contrast to the root and narrow show one would stand a knock trail at the show destination major.
Los dos genios de los 60 ; Brian Jones y All Wilson de Canned Heat , primero Brian en el 69 y poco después Wilson ... Un abrazo.
They did not go to his funeral ..and how did mick's girlfriend hang herself on a door knob when she was over 6ft tall there's a lot of dark odd stuff
This video absolutely proves the age old view that Jones could not write a song!!
He founded genre of music. Is that good enough for you? “Brian Jones was indeed the father of what we now regard as world music…Brian’s championing of ethnic players such as the Moroccan Master Musicians of Joujouka back in 1967 should be regarded as groundbreaking artistic development, portents of the future.”-John Phillpott, Blues in Britain
@@TheaterPup Excuse me. I think that you need to explore what was going on with world music in the 1940s and 1950s. No, Brian was not the father of world music. Rock people, I think live in their own category, without loking outside it. Then then give these sweeping praises like Hendrix was the greatest guitarist (when in fact, Hendrix was amongst the most creative guitarists, but his chops didn't come near to the jazz guys.) Undertanding that world music was around is as simple as looking at Bossa Nova, Carmen Miranda, Tito Puente, etc. Think of all of the latin stuff that was popular. Of course there was world music around before Brian Jones. Don't be ridiculous.
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Great tribute to Rollling Jones
He didn't write any songs for the Stones on his own, he added to songs. He worked out the music to Ruby Tuesday with Keith and he made up the soundtrack to a German movie.
Interviewer--- What were you doing before you joined? ( The band)
Brian---"um well I was just sort of bumming around waiting for something to happen really. I had quite a few jobs and uh I was trying to get a band going but it was unsuccessful until I met up with Mick and Keith"
Brian Jones explaining to an interviewer about not being able to start a band and instead joining Keith's band, The Blue Boys.
The Stones were at their peak when jones was with them.
Hey Mick who’s your inspiration when you write?….BRIAN?????
So even Bill is mistaken about what Brian played on Paint it black. The main theme is played by Keith, Brian is on acoustic.
I believe he is speaking of the sitar which does carry the song
i thought Bill played the Hammond organ bass pedals on this track-Now,Bill is saying Brian played them.Once Again,more to Brian's credit.
Nope.
Jones was essential and is sorely missed,i remember hearing about 50 years ago that Jones,Hendrix and Lennon were possibly gonna form a band,dunno if theres any truth in that though
According to Jann S. Wenner's book, Lennon Remembers, John Lennon and Brian Jones struck up a friendship. They often met up and talked about music with other artists in London.
He also believed that Jones was better at the harmonica than himself
Jones and Hendrix were allegedly planning to secretly break-away from their respective groups to form a supergroup, with none other than John Lennon and Alexis Korner in 1969. A few months prior to his death, The Rolling Stones guitarist reportedly told Nicholas Fitzgerald: “Towards the end of last year, four musicians made a trial recording for Apple, The Beatles’ label. They played under the group name of Balls. One of them was John Lennon and one of them was me. The other two swore me to secrecy, so I can’t tell you about them, except to say one was a lead guitar and the other was a drummer. We recorded one track called ‘Go to the Mountains’.
@@SuperAnimelover100 That's been disputed as urban legend
@@SuperAnimelover100 Let's keep it factual,people (please )-it's all rather well documented -Reading Is Fundamental
@@brendankane3546 Time will tell !
@@SuperAnimelover100 still waiting.......
I think it’s silly to celebrate the success of Red Rooster. Just because it went to number one on Monday. I think almost any Rolling Stones might have had a chance at number one at that moment in history. And moreover, if they followed it up with more of that style, I suspect they would have slidden into obscurity... Most of the mid-sixties blues British thing was dull and had a righteous hit-you-over-the-head thing IMO..(although I suppose guys gave it a certain cred just like the folkies liked acoustic folk of early Dylan.) PS I love red Rooster btw.
Genio desperdiciado por el mismo . El mas talentoso sin duda. Mick y keith los menos talentosos pero inteligentes por algo siguieron siguen tuvieron autocontrol. :) por siempre rolling stones 🙌
the coolest stone ever
Always the best dressed . Brian looked like a Prince and sexy classy !
The Stones losing Brian took away something from the band. Keith's guitar tunings sort of filled that spot, but those 60s recordings are still my favorites!!
Strangely,Brian was using alt. tuning from day one,way before Keef-Brian discovered open G tuning years before,though, Keef took it to a different chordal level.
Charlie don't change. 60 years of the same low key cool personality that didn't try to impress.
It's strange how AMERICAN white teenagers were introduced to BLACK AMERICAN blues by WHITE English Boys. The Stones largely, 🇬🇧 but there were other British blues based bands. 😀
The famous British blues exponent was Alexis Korner at whose house Brian Jones shacked up and slept on the floor. There were many others who hung out with Korner. I think Jimmy Page may have been one of them. The spiritual home of the British blues which later evolved into rock was the Royal Borough of Richmond upon Thames including Twickenham. The old Eel Pie Island Hotel 🏨 on a pedestrian only islet in the Thames was a famous venue for fledgeling bands in the early sixties including the Stones, the Yardbirds and Black Sabbath, that I know of. The old hotel is long gone because of fire 🔥. I believe there is now a plaque near the footbridge about British rock / blues birthplace, although it's years since I was last there.
I don't think the blues made too much of an impression on most white kids, anyway. They liked pop music, rock and roll, top forty.
@@hermanhale9258 Blues made quite a major impression on me !
Well, I think Rolling Stones fans only liked blues because Keith liked blues. And that wasn't the majority. Most fans had no idea who those blues artists were, and a mere few ever gave them more than a polite listen.
@@hermanhale9258 guitarists like the Blues,it is essential.
All the girls screaming for Brian Jones, Brenda and werzel so jealous
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Es hat etwas von "In Another Land".
Aber nicht im psychedelischen sinn, sondern eher als wenn The Who mit Brian da gearbeitet hätten.
I feel that both the Stones and the Who were far more interesting in the 1960's than the coked up junkie bores they became later. The Who tried to be Pink Floyd and got lost in their attempt to write 'concept LPs. Their truly great era was gone. Both bands were eclipsed by the stronger Led Zeppelin which explains their sad bitterness about them (See Pete and Keith's 'comments', talk about bitter and jealous. Brian had that desire for the new and like Syd and Brian Wilson their departures took so much. Even the Floyd took half a decade to get back to doing vital original work ('Meddle' +) but unlike the other two bands they did reinvent themselves and came back even stronger unlike the other nostalgia act bands.
Ironically. He sounds like he has a nice voice.
Quite posh like and a sexy classy Englishman.
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@@SuperAnimelover100 Brian was Welsh 100 %
Its only Mick and Keith who had issues with Brian. Everybody else seemed to revere him. He was a bright young flower who wasn't allowed to blossom in that group. A power struggle followed and he got the boot. Had he not been murdered he would've gone onto great things and developed as a songwriter. He always had it in him but sadly it was never to be.
Jones should have not done so many drugs.
when Brian jones died so did The Stones, sadly
Interestingly, according to Brian's girlfriend, Brian never played Rolling Stone records on his home record player. He played a lot of The Beatles albums. Brian recognized the musicality of The Beatles, and that shows that Brian had an interest in things that had melody. His composition Ruby Tuesday (in combination with that simple, but catchy recorder flute part) showed Brian's interest in melody. After Brian died, some of that musicality disappeared from the The Rolling Stone's music. Although Brian's music wasn't complex, it was melodic, and catchy. The Beatles had three writers. So, did The Rolling Stones, when Brian was there. They lost one third of their writing ability with Brian's death. They should have just gotten Brian into rehab, and got him psycologicaly help, and put him on a temporary hiatus. He could have come back and added a lot. He was another causualy of the very stupid trendy use of drugs.
Most of the best stuff were beacause of brians contributions imo.... Most talented out of them all. An artist, like many great geniuses they go crazy, cause really everone eles is stupid, they cannot deal with it & go mad.
Everton song 🎵 😅
PAINT IT BLACK PF SLOAN
If only The Stones wouldn't have kept Brian down, they could have really been one of the greatest bands of all time. 😂
Should have joined robert fripp and never looked back or joined the doors
Beatles Rule Rock&Roll.
I always found it hard to believe that the guy, Brian Jones, who brought a background of true musical ability to the band going back to his childhood, NEVER contributed to ANY of the Stones' melodies? I have ALWAYS found that hard to believe. He never received one writing credit from 1963 to 1969. Really?
Appears Mick is trying in more ways than one to dilute the water about Brian and his true talent.
A day does not go by without another post about Brian Jones. Yes, he founded the Rolling Stones, a very talented musician who melted his brain with drugs, and was murdered by his builder, Scaduto disclosed all the facts decades ago in the 70's. Why not just let it rest instead of trying to turn him into a victim?
A baker isn't a chef.