Brian Jones last girlfriend and her time at Cotchford Farm

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    0:00 Anna Mourns Brian
    1:19 Meeting Brians dad
    2:47 Life after Brian
    4:05 Meeting Brian
    5:14 Life at Cotchford Farm
    7:03 Frank Thorogood
    8:15 Brian eccentricities
    10:10 Brians Troubled Past
    11:40 Annas Substances
    12:07 Stones issues
    14:02 Marry me Anna!
    14:32 The Beam
    16:05 The end of Brian jones
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  • @filmretrospective5334
    @filmretrospective5334  2 місяці тому

    Also Check out my Documentary on Brian jones!
    ua-cam.com/video/JAsDqfmguGg/v-deo.html

  • @peterm1826
    @peterm1826 3 місяці тому +31

    Brian was murdered. He was an excellent swimmer. When Rolling Stones came to Australia. In 60s they went to Bondi Beach Brian swam so far out they lost sight of him. 30 minutes later he came back to shore. As for Brian’s death. I Blame Frank Thorogood He was in the pool with Jones and out of resentment and jealousy killed Brian. He confessed in 1993. While in hospital dying of cancer. It was hushed up. To the point Anna was deported and Tom Keylock burnt all Brains clothes the next day. And the builders were looting his house.

    • @thaismatsumoto
      @thaismatsumoto 2 місяці тому +9

      He was using drugs. Being an excellswimmer means nothing. Look at Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys. He was a surfer and drowned too.

    • @BlowinFree
      @BlowinFree 2 місяці тому +3

      @@thaismatsumotowell that’s debatable, some say he was given the chop by cia

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  2 місяці тому +2

      Frank wasn't dying of cancer when he was admitted to the hospital for respiratory problems. He didn't know he was going to die so how could it be a deathbed confession?
      You're going by the words of Tom Keylock who according to brians daughter never spoke to frank alone as she was with him each day.
      Tom also went back on his statement and said it wasnt true, before going back again and saying it was true.

    • @SJ-ni6iy
      @SJ-ni6iy 2 місяці тому +1

      You could be an Olympic gold medalist but that doesn’t make much difference, if you are blitzed out of your mind on drugs.

    • @peterm1826
      @peterm1826 2 місяці тому +4

      @@filmretrospective5334 Brian’s Daughter probably never spoke to Brian either. She probably doesn’t have a clue. And I’m not going on Tom Keylock I’m going on what police thought. At the time. As it didn’t make any sense and it’s suspicious that Keylock was burning Brian’s clothes next day. The police took what they’re findings to superiors but they didn’t have enough to go on.

  • @christopher9152
    @christopher9152 3 місяці тому +18

    Excellent video. There are stories here from Anna that I had never heard before. Some of what she shared paints Brian in a somewhat more sympathetic light than is often the case.

  • @gartenhexe123
    @gartenhexe123 3 місяці тому +25

    Everyone forgets that Brian had Asthma. Asthma and drugs are a no go......think about that

    • @arricammarques1955
      @arricammarques1955 2 місяці тому +2

      Bran was coping with manic depression & self-medicating with substances. Jones was under a lot of stress with court issues. His central nervous system was deteriorating. It was a recipe for disaster. Brian was making the music he loved away from the Stones. Without support he faded away into legend.

    • @davidroberttaylor57
      @davidroberttaylor57 2 місяці тому

      With the help of a builder who held his head under the water.@@arricammarques1955

    • @jsmith469
      @jsmith469 2 місяці тому +4

      He didn't die from an asthma attack

  • @user-iv5vx7gw4y
    @user-iv5vx7gw4y 3 місяці тому +22

    When you "dance with the devil in the pale of the moon light" you risk joining the fate of those who chose to roll the dice with drugs, alcohol, and life of chaos and sadness. So sad, but history repeats itself.

    • @sexobscura
      @sexobscura 2 місяці тому

      he was a famous member of an extremely popular band, so your flippant comment fails badly at being 'deep'

  • @joachimgoethe7864
    @joachimgoethe7864 2 місяці тому +4

    He only lived at Cotchford farm for seven months. Bought it in Nov 68. Died July 69. Sad he wasn't around long enough to really make it a home.

  • @ovalvox7888
    @ovalvox7888 3 місяці тому +16

    I read Anna’s book. I took it with a grain of salt. There were a lot of holes in her story.

  • @dennisheadley4408
    @dennisheadley4408 3 місяці тому +40

    Brian was very talented. But he was messed up on drugs and alcohol, and often didn't show up at recording sessions. In his condition, it was also impossible for him to go on tour.

    • @chuckselvage3157
      @chuckselvage3157 3 місяці тому +9

      Sad he couldn't or wouldn't get the proper help. 😢

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 3 місяці тому

      His doctors gave him Mandrax, which made him worse. @@chuckselvage3157

    • @aunch3
      @aunch3 3 місяці тому +6

      But that was common for all the Stones at the time not just Brian. Their sessions were always poorly attended one Stone or another often no showed. Brian felt like the odd man out because he wasn’t writing the songs, and he had a hard time accepting a supporting role.

    • @motowngirl5891
      @motowngirl5891 2 місяці тому +3

      You can’t run a business with a person who is messed up, people get fired from their jobs everyday

    • @jsmith469
      @jsmith469 2 місяці тому +1

      He didn't show up or was given the wrong time on purpose

  • @westfield90
    @westfield90 3 місяці тому +18

    Sad story on the fragility of life. You get lucky enough to gain fame and money but life becomes boring and drugs and alcohol become your outlets. Depressingly that doesn’t end well most times. I feel for Anna because it’s those left behind that they have a torturous existence and life seems very very long, sad and rather pointless constantly filled with what ifs.

  • @greenbunnyinabongo7299
    @greenbunnyinabongo7299 2 місяці тому +4

    “He lived for it
    And died in it” Pure poetry

  • @lindaellen808
    @lindaellen808 3 місяці тому +14

    Frozen out and lonely ,story of my life really.

    • @leosunrising
      @leosunrising 3 місяці тому +3

      What band were you a part of formerly?

  • @catlover4700
    @catlover4700 2 місяці тому +13

    Anna was just a fleeting moment. She was a" fan girl" more than a love interest. She spent time with him, lived in his home but theres more holes in her story than Swiss Cheese. Anita and Keith finished Brian off.

    • @saynototheilluminati3247
      @saynototheilluminati3247 2 місяці тому +1

      why would they want to?

    • @cannotfindmyshoes3
      @cannotfindmyshoes3 2 місяці тому +2

      ​​@@saynototheilluminati3247. They had come to hate him. Spanish Tony and Marianne Faithfull have hinted at how horrible they were about/to him. It was also Keith who ditched Tom Keylock and got him and his friend Frank Thouroghtwat to "mind" Brian.

    • @Reba24u
      @Reba24u 2 місяці тому +2

      @@cannotfindmyshoes3 well I agree that Keith and Anita finished him off I don’t think it was physical but their romance destroyed his soul

    • @jsmith469
      @jsmith469 2 місяці тому +2

      If Brian's liver was that diseased, then he would've had symptoms such as the whites of his eyes would have turned yellow.

    • @elenikorkodelaki2695
      @elenikorkodelaki2695 Місяць тому

      Pallenberg destroyed Brian!

  • @jonathansteadman7935
    @jonathansteadman7935 3 місяці тому +14

    I don't think Brian could handle fame, he mentions it during various interviews. As Mick said ' Fame doesn't rest easy on most people, but with Brian it didn't fit at all'. He was the first rock star, he was the first Stone to wear his girlfriend's colourful shirts, he was the most creative musicians and had a style ahead of his peers. Apparently he wanted to do something in the style of Creedence Clearwater, while being into world music years before it became a 'thing', the recordings he made of Jojoukan musicians of morroco for instance. Even Charlie Watts, who was not someone to mix his words, said Brian was not a very nice person, but was very charming'. He was the first to have this mix of personality disorders, which weren't recognised back then, with the problems of frame. Ultimately, we never got to hear Brians side of things as, apart from Robert Johnson he was first of the 27 club.

    • @TheaterPup
      @TheaterPup 3 місяці тому +4

      Charlie didn't mince words, but fans constantly misquote him. He meant that Brian would sometimes "upset people." That is not the same as not being a nice person. When you're a rebel, you're going to upset people at times.

    • @plaguelover71
      @plaguelover71 3 місяці тому

      Asd highly possible too.

  • @hankwedelmusic9965
    @hankwedelmusic9965 2 місяці тому +5

    In July 1969,
    Brian Jones was laid
    to the cosmic rest
    he deserved for living
    such a full on and
    Explosively Creative life...
    Without a doubt,
    Brian Jones
    was the most interesting musician
    The UK has ever yielded...
    Was there anyone more responsible for
    The British Blues boom
    going global?
    Was there a mod to
    out dress him?
    Was there a hippie to out freak him?
    Was there a punk
    more outrageous
    in the media than
    Brian Jones?
    Was there a glam rocker who didn’t pay homage to Brian Jones?
    A New Romantic more effortless at being androgynous?
    Has The UK produced
    a more perfect pop star
    not known for writing his own songs?
    Was there a studio musician more influential?
    Brian remains the deepest root
    of modern UK experimental music
    Was there ever
    a plainer name
    than Brian Jones
    more synonymous with highly sexualised camp narcotic excess?
    Two members
    of the band
    he pulled together
    still tour
    under the name he chose for them
    60 years ago…
    It’s interesting to observe that
    in the wake of
    Brian’s passing,
    Mick Jagger
    and Keith Richards
    both exhibited the
    alpha aspects
    of Brian’s persona...
    Mick became the erudite,
    globe trotting,
    media celebrity
    and record producer...
    fathering many children
    by many women while also steering the ship...
    Keith became the
    drug addled
    blues rocker making Open G
    his own…
    with a deep interest
    in the roots of a marginalised
    world music
    at the time, reggae...
    and record producer...
    shacked up with
    Anita Pallenberg…
    Also very interesting is how both
    Mick Taylor and
    Ron Wood
    both strongly reflect Brian Jones
    in their roles as his replacement...
    Mick Taylor,
    the lone bluesman
    and slide guitarist virtuoso...
    Mick Taylor’s presence saved that band from musical ruin...
    There was no one better for them in 1969....
    Ron Wood,
    Hot Brit Rock
    Guitarist Partner
    in crime
    and social butterfly dandy friend
    to all the other rockers...
    that band would have fallen apart
    but for Ron Wood in 1975...
    Fittingly when
    Bill Wyman quit
    in the early 90s,
    he was replaced by
    another Jones….
    Darryl Jones
    Their 2016 release
    “Blue and Lonsesome” was made up
    of songs they would have known from their time with Brian…
    who, along with Ian Stewart KNEW
    that the late Charlie Watts was the only drummer in London able to swing
    in a way that would make the band…
    Their most recent release
    2023’s “Hackney Diamonds”
    concludes with Muddy Water’s
    “Rollin Stone Blues”
    a song Brian named the band after
    In conclusion
    I’ve always been fascinated by
    Brian Jones
    despite knowing that
    aspects of his
    behaviour called
    some serious diabolical forces down...
    I tend to not judge him too harshly and concentrate on
    the other aspects...
    the musically driven visionary
    who created himself
    like very few others do...

    • @cannotfindmyshoes3
      @cannotfindmyshoes3 2 місяці тому +2

      @hankwedelmusic9965
      "Please don't judge me too harshly" 🥺😉
      I really like your dedication to him. 💙

    • @Ian-sj1wy
      @Ian-sj1wy 2 місяці тому

      I think there were hundreds of Mods that outdresed him. There was even one in his own band if you know where to look .

    • @user-mx1fn5fi9i
      @user-mx1fn5fi9i Місяць тому +1

      Well written

    • @hankwedelmusic9965
      @hankwedelmusic9965 14 днів тому

      @@Ian-sj1wy
      All those 1960s well dressed Mods
      became well dressed Hippies by 1967
      and if you’re referring to Charlie Watts, Charlie didn’t really go for it until about 1975
      and if you’re referring to Keith
      Keith didn’t really go for it until he took up with Anita

    • @dellablair8514
      @dellablair8514 8 днів тому

      @hankwedelmusic9965 Your dedication to Brian reads like poetry. Thank you for sharing.

  • @patriciaw.5602
    @patriciaw.5602 3 місяці тому +8

    Could you do a video on the last days of Bon Scott, AC/DC singer. He and Brian seem similar in a lot of ways.

  • @musiclover3205
    @musiclover3205 3 місяці тому +23

    Rest in Peace- Brian and Anna Wohlin

  • @helmutsecke3529
    @helmutsecke3529 3 місяці тому +12

    He were drowned in the trough, not the sodding pool.

    • @randybackgammon890
      @randybackgammon890 3 місяці тому

      Never heard that before.Whats your sourse for that idea?

    • @cindy7400
      @cindy7400 3 місяці тому +3

      I think they murdered him myself!

    • @BlowinFree
      @BlowinFree 2 місяці тому +1

      There was a brilliant documentary on uk tv ages ago that alluded that there were a few workmen working at Brian’s house for weeks and staying onsite and Brian was seriously getting under their skin and apparently the drowned him in the cattle trough

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  2 місяці тому

      This would mean Frank pulled him out the swimming pool drowned him in a trough and threw him back in and brian put up no resistance as under examination there showed no cuts or marks or any sign brian had been tussling with anybody.

    • @helmutsecke3529
      @helmutsecke3529 2 місяці тому

      @@randybackgammon890What does "sourse" mean?

  • @TRICK-OR-TREAT236
    @TRICK-OR-TREAT236 2 місяці тому +3

    I CAN REMEMBER ANNA'S TIME AT CROTCHFORD FARM LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY. TOO BAD SHE COULDN'T HAVE SAVED HIM.

  • @JogMaher
    @JogMaher 3 місяці тому +5

    More wonderfully researched work 👌 Thank you 🙏🏻

    • @fastinbulvis2223
      @fastinbulvis2223 2 місяці тому

      Frank was hired by Allan Klein to take out BJ. It was no accident. It was a hit.

  • @sandrakenney567
    @sandrakenney567 2 місяці тому

    Its a pity he died so young he was a talented gifted person.and started the band .he lasted 2 years later he left the band because he wasnt in any state pity.hes not forgotten Godbless you Brian.Rest in Peace Amen 🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹💐🕊🦋

  • @oldskool731
    @oldskool731 7 місяців тому +13

    why would u have a outdoor swimming pool in england anyway nice gaff though

    • @TheEvbox
      @TheEvbox 3 місяці тому +9

      If you can afford it why not? Even if you can only use it 2 weeks out of the year

    • @donnajean3202
      @donnajean3202 3 місяці тому +8

      Brian's pool was heated

    • @plaguelover71
      @plaguelover71 3 місяці тому +4

      The American wife that was the previous owner had it installed.

    • @BlowinFree
      @BlowinFree 2 місяці тому +7

      Many people have pools in England especially the south. Only the rich can afford to heat one though

  • @clemdane
    @clemdane 2 місяці тому +2

    Keith Richards is like a walking piece of beef jerky

  • @jonashallberg2832
    @jonashallberg2832 3 місяці тому +7

    Anna was put in a hotel the same day
    By the stones management, then when she had talked to the police,she was giving a ticket and they drove her to the airport.when she came home she discovered that she was pregnant.

    • @SuperAnimelover100
      @SuperAnimelover100 3 місяці тому +2

      Never heard she was pregnant before. Where is the baby ?

    • @Leo-dr4qm
      @Leo-dr4qm 3 місяці тому +1

      She wishes

    • @jonashallberg2832
      @jonashallberg2832 3 місяці тому +1

      ⁠ she had a miscarriage ,when she came home to Sweden.
      She was in a very bad state after all that had happened.

    • @jonashallberg2832
      @jonashallberg2832 3 місяці тому

      @@Leo-dr4qm ???????

  • @christinajebali9201
    @christinajebali9201 2 місяці тому +3

    What a waste of a young talented man.. so sad he had everything worth living for if he just didn't take drugs and alcohol in excess like that..

  • @mangographics225
    @mangographics225 2 місяці тому +5

    Mick wanted to be the "head guy" but was always second to Brian ... Mick didn't give a crap.

  • @richardbanker3910
    @richardbanker3910 2 місяці тому +1

    Looks like Brian had got back to a life routine which was healthier than before. Only the daily alcohol and evening Mandrax and Black bombers seems to have marred this picture. There’s a very good question as to what happened to the belongings that Tom Keylock stole, especially his tapes of music recoded and instruments . He took advantage of the situation.

  • @rudetunes6564
    @rudetunes6564 3 місяці тому +3

    Brian was murdered by his yard keeper....

  • @sonnygirl8823
    @sonnygirl8823 2 місяці тому +1

    That is so F’d up that they raised that house after his death-How horrible for his family

  • @russellmcbride1242
    @russellmcbride1242 3 місяці тому +17

    Keith and Mick killed Brian with their cruelty I believe. A million woman in the world and Keith took Brian's. Broke the bro code!

  • @patriciaw.5602
    @patriciaw.5602 3 місяці тому +5

    Well done video. Another rock star who can't drive a car!? If Anna could have tried to write lyrics, who knows maybe she and Brian could have written songs.

  • @charityshoptreasures2569
    @charityshoptreasures2569 2 місяці тому +4

    Brian has a son with another woman

    • @cannotfindmyshoes3
      @cannotfindmyshoes3 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, with Linda, I think he is called Julian. But he also made a couple of other young women pregnant too.

    • @cannotfindmyshoes3
      @cannotfindmyshoes3 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, with Linda. I think he's called Julian Lewis Jones. Not sure, my memory is quite fucked. But she wasn't the only young lady he got pregnant even before the Stones got successfull...apparently.

  • @user-eb5ib9kv1e
    @user-eb5ib9kv1e 9 днів тому

    How come that the GOOD Ones go first? Peace to You Brian for always and wherever you are right now. Karma. Love You.

  • @invisible-zt8xh
    @invisible-zt8xh 3 місяці тому +1

    He fell unconscious and drowned? Uhm. .... 😒

  • @clemdane
    @clemdane 2 місяці тому

    Who owns Cotchford Farm now?

  • @texas1949
    @texas1949 2 місяці тому

    “The only thing they had in common were the drugs they were sharing” 😢

  • @rossammellino9045
    @rossammellino9045 2 місяці тому

    😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @roswithagotz2523
    @roswithagotz2523 2 місяці тому +2

    Warum sind die Qeiber immer blond???????

  • @judyskinner254
    @judyskinner254 15 днів тому

    I think Frank the Ogre murdered Brian. And Keylock the Thief stole all his belongings.

  • @motowngirl5891
    @motowngirl5891 2 місяці тому +2

    He ruined his health with drugs and drink

    • @cannotfindmyshoes3
      @cannotfindmyshoes3 2 місяці тому

      Really ? I don't think anyone's thought about that possibility before !

  • @slimturnpike
    @slimturnpike 3 місяці тому +1

    Living on his fame

  • @lyndamcmullen5506
    @lyndamcmullen5506 2 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @user-jz6to8md3c
    @user-jz6to8md3c 2 місяці тому

    Brin had the winny the poo house.

  • @konradbenz7110
    @konradbenz7110 2 місяці тому

    💕👍

  • @user-zx8qq1so7j
    @user-zx8qq1so7j 11 днів тому

    The mystery of Brian Jones must be solved while those last two rascals are still around, they know the real deal.

  • @user-rw7sy3ve2w
    @user-rw7sy3ve2w 2 місяці тому +1

    Sacrifice😢

  • @aileenjackson1706
    @aileenjackson1706 21 день тому

    Shame on you Tom.

  • @sharonyoung7251
    @sharonyoung7251 2 місяці тому +1

    I Believe Mick Copied All of Brian’s moves and music. Jagger and Richard’s were jealous of his Talent, And put him out. RIP BRIAN….🕊️Fly Free with the Angels 🕊️🕊️✌️🙏🌈✨

    • @MD-lf3gt
      @MD-lf3gt 2 місяці тому

      Yeah it MUST be that way. Because Brian’s dead and of course it MUST be Mick and Keith’s fault!
      Somebody MUST get the blame.
      Brian’s dead and that makes him holy and impeccable ( like Florence Ballard).
      At least for simpletons who believe in heroes and villains.

  • @markhooper4532
    @markhooper4532 2 місяці тому

    Winnie Wallace... What a happy jolly chap.You can imagine being in his company, that's if you're into taking huge amounts of any old drugs and being permanently pissed.

    • @sallydumbrell9446
      @sallydumbrell9446 2 місяці тому +2

      Wow you young fellas sure have all the answers.Somehow i know they are not going to be talking about you 50 years after you have departed.

    • @cannotfindmyshoes3
      @cannotfindmyshoes3 2 місяці тому

      ​@@sallydumbrell9446. Yeah. And what the Fuck is he talking about anyway ?!

  • @benwright6330
    @benwright6330 2 місяці тому

    Crotchfilled Farm

  • @angusvansatriani784
    @angusvansatriani784 2 місяці тому +1

    Brian was a piece of work. Yes, his untimely death was very sad and a shame. But Brian was horribly abusive to Anita. I doubt she would've been with Keith otherwise. Nor would Keith have been comfortable to make a move for her. That they felt bad and/or guilty says more about them than Brian. Not to mention the poor little girls he got pregnant. A saint, he was not. And there were several people who witnessed how cruel he was to the groundskeeper. As well as a major phsycological game player. That he intensely rubbed people the wrong way was something all around him could attest to.

  • @Leo-dr4qm
    @Leo-dr4qm 3 місяці тому

    Groupie

  • @kentucy9999
    @kentucy9999 2 місяці тому +5

    1. Brian couldn't write songs. Mick + Keith would have loved to have written some songs with Brian and they tried too but he couldn't write songs. That isn't unusual. Many very talented musicians aren't composers. They didn't "X" Brian out. 2. Keith did not "steal" Anita. Brian was mistreating Anita being physically abusive and everything else. Keith didn't "steal" Anita. In his mind he "rescued" Anita. 3. Brian was very happy at the beginning when he was the quasi leader of the Stones and they were playing "covers." One day Andrew Loog Oldham their original manager said to Mick + Keith, "look boys. If you're ever going to do anything you've got to write your own songs and you need to start working on that today." Mick + Keith's initial reaction was, "what are you talking about? We don't know how to write songs." Andrew said, "well learn then, right now." So they wrote a couple songs and lo and behold people liked them so they wrote a couple more {and people liked those also.} No one was more surprised than them. Brian was devastated by this. He was devastated that Mick + Keith were successful writing songs and were now the center of the band. Brian never got over this. He couldn't accept it. He was very jealous especially of Mick who was becoming the biggest rock star in the world. Keith has said, "Brian wanted to be Mick and couldn't understand why people didn't see him like Mick but Mick is Mick. Someone else can't be Mick." 4. Brian started doing A LOT of drugs. A LOT. He basically became incapacitated and completely ineffective as a musician and a member of the band...........end of story. Maybe the band could have handled the "sacking" of Brian a bit better. I don't know. I wasn't there.

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  2 місяці тому +4

      1. Brian could write songs, he wrote the soundtrack for degree of murder
      2. Keith was physically abusive to Anita too so he wasn't "rescuing" her.
      and there's no correction with 3 or 4 they're just statements.

    • @tomslick2058
      @tomslick2058 2 місяці тому

      They paid him off with a measly 100 grand and no rights. He did make some songs unique with his embellishments. But he could not perform anyway in the end. They had to sack him. Also the Stones new it was time for a true second guitarist .

  • @davidrogers2085
    @davidrogers2085 2 місяці тому +1

    Anna has milked this subject for way too long. Brian never knew love. At home when he was a adolescent a loving family dwelling escaped him. It was regimented. How could he NOT strike out when the time came for him to do something with his life. He never knew real love.

  • @beverlyledbetter4906
    @beverlyledbetter4906 2 місяці тому

    What did he see in her??😬

  • @Mojorising1328
    @Mojorising1328 3 місяці тому +18

    It should have been mick, not Brian. He couldn't hold a candle and clearly resented the attention Brian got for being the true leader and creative force behind the Stones. They were nothing more than a street fair band post Brian.

    • @lamper2
      @lamper2 3 місяці тому +5

      One thing about Brian, he was no creative force in songwriting anyway. Mick was. He was the one they couldn't have done without.

    • @ben-ow3ow
      @ben-ow3ow 3 місяці тому +5

      @@lamper2 Micky and Keith to be fair

    • @kabiam
      @kabiam 3 місяці тому +4

      Mick is still going strong. The guy will outlive all of us.

    • @scottstambaugh8473
      @scottstambaugh8473 3 місяці тому

      Dumb, ugly comment

    • @Reba24u
      @Reba24u 3 місяці тому +2

      Mick never lost that much control. Brian was talented but weak

  • @sexobscura
    @sexobscura 2 місяці тому

    *Most of the people with an ounce of knowledge know that he was probably done in by Ms. C Love*