Forza Horizon 5 Tech Analysis: An Xbox Series X Masterpiece
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2021
- Update: Dolby Vision was fixed after we raised the issue in this video and is now supported. Enjoy!
Playground Games' Forza Horizon 5 is finally complete - a cross-generation game perhaps, but one where the next generation features deliver a new level in fidelity for the franchise and for the Xbox platform. Join John Linneman for this phenomenally detailed breakdown of the technology in the new game.
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This is how game devs should release a product. Well optimized, highly polished game. Not the broken, patch later bullshit that companies continue to make a modern trend for game development. I hope Playground Games carries this level quality over to Fable.
The people over at "Earth 2" would give their left nuts to have a terrain generation system as good as Forza has.
I hope microsoft has realised that playground games are their best studio right now and i hope they give them all the money and time they need for fable and horizon 6. The coalition is amazing as well. And i think the initiative is a good studio also
Even the Cyberpunk car worked properly in Forza Horizon 4 lmao
@@gtavshortclips4740 I could see Microsoft flight simulator 2020 and Forza becoming merged as the same world, A true "the CREW."
@@ChiefExecutiveOrbiter if possible that would be amazing!
The fact that this game is included on Game Pass is tremendously good.
Game pass is the future
Yes, as are all Xbox first-party games.
Gamepass is king. I don't even have to buy the game when all I gotta do is wait a few days to play it via gamepass.
Gamepass is the reason I bought a series s
@@paularnold4021 It's a good deal, a year playing games and the console becomes free
What the devs have achieved here is simply astounding.
All the developers involved in this game should hold their head high at this technical achievement. Truly masterclass.
What a beautifully optimized game. Why can’t all games run like this? Almost 100% locked and very slight resolution dips. What an amazing technical achievement.
It requires too much effort make a game optimized like that, and more effort = more cost. And companies like Ubisoft, ea, activision don't want too much cost
@@Gabeiellopes lmao literally
@@Gabeiellopes you can also count rock star with em
First party titles are always like this. It is why they are so key to a consoles success.
This is why exclusives always seem to be better than multiplatform releases (console-wise).
Looking at those environments, can you imagine what Fable will be like from Playground games! Great video from John, which was a celebration of driving games, not just a technical analysis. I always appreciate John's enthusiasm, whom along with Richard, are the heart of DF.
I’ve no doubt fable will be a gorgeous game, I just hope they recapture that original fable formula
Probably an mmo at this rate. Lol.. no cap
And that also mean Fable 4 devs will be able to help Bethesda with The elder Scrolls 6, as i think, they must share some resources, as they both now are Xbox game studios
Xbox next gen exclusives will be epic my dudes
Fable is likely being developed for PC before being ported over to the Series X, and remember that most PC players don't have SSDs or Ray Tracing cards. Don't get your hopes up.
@@samdenisse2705 Where did you get that from?
Put 10 hours into it today. It's phenomenal. Performance mode does have some pop in but it's the only way to play for me personally.
I've been flying around in drone mode on Series X and the detail in every inch of the ground and environment is so high it's actually obscene. I can't remember the last time I was so blown away by a game's technical grandeur.
Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, Red Dead Redemption 2, Grand Theft Auto V, Battlefield 3, Crisis
@@ponraul1221 Easy, tiger.
Jay whats the lowest frame rate your using on x-series?
@@xcaliburG37S 30
@@Jayy997 , thanks!😎👍
Now, remember the fact Playground is developing Fable. Holy Sh*t Fable is going to look insane
Ahhh yes, because developing “realistic” car games with ZERO player character animation because, well, you’re always stuck in a car - will absolutely translate to a scifi, medieval setting like Fable that includes no cars to speak of and is the exact opposite skillset that Playground has developed over all these years… can’t wait!!!
@@spenny2cents obsidian is helping Playground
IF it uses the same game engine.
@@spenny2cents Playground is probably responsible for the environments, which they obviously do extremely well
@@spenny2cents your comment was the corniest thing I’ve seen on UA-cam
Fable is going to at least look stunning that’s for sure!
When they were panning over the forest floor, I was thinking exactly that. It looks real. Fable is going to be the most beautiful RPG ever made, I'm calling it.
So true. That's all I keep thinking about. 👍👍👍
Does the same develop team work on the new Fable game?
@@attilariczak8345 yes
@@attilariczak8345 Playground games is making the next Fable. I think it’s safe to assume they will use a modified version of this engine for Fable.
This game is absolutely bananas, the fact that you can hop onto photo mode on the spot and angle up any car and it looks f'ing incredible is a testament to the incredible achievement that playground achieved. It's f'ing CRAZY. The graphics, the details, the sound, holy shit it's awe inspiring.
He's right about the sound! I'm really impressed with how I can hear cars pulling up behind me, along with the usage of the height channels that are often ignored in games with Atmos.
the way forza does music for their events and openings always give me chills, its amazing
The first song in this video is Blue Blazes from the Maximum Tune 2 arcade game. It always gives people goosebumps.
I always mute music in racing games. The engine needs to be heard over anything.
@@xboxrules8472 Plus I don't get how people like the music in these games so much. I find most of it obnoxious and just plain bad
@@alexsilva28 That's just like, your opinion, man.
@@Kynect2Hymn Uh yes. That's why I said *I find it* bad
Horizon has developed into an obsession of mine. I set it separate from games I love as works of art as single player experiences. Games like Bloodborne, BOTW, Hollow Knight, etc. I love those games, I could talk about them for hours. But as for what takes up the majority of my gaming time? There's no contest, it's Horizon. Playground really have turned Horizon into a gaming playground for me. I don't even like online gaming, but Horizon implements it in such a carefree, no-friction kind of way that I play Horizon 4 daily, to this day, three years after it first came out. Just finding someone, joining their convoy, and drifting across the map in a tune of my own creation(Racing The Tide my Xbox handle btw :) ).
It's approachable while being incredibly deep. Insanely deep. You could(and I regularly do) lose yourself entirely in single aspects of it; like drifting, without ever even getting seriously into grip racing, livery designing, rally racing, event creation, etc. etc. I believe it is pretty much the most perfectly balanced simcade handling model of all-time(I'm not going to get into an argument about how you define simcade, so please, don't bother), in that it is obviously circumscribed when compared with something like BeamNG or Assetto, or even Forza Motorsport, yet its physics model is still extraordinarily deep and emergent, and its 'competitors' like NFS Heat and The Crew are not in the same galaxy. It is the handling and physics model that really underpins everything about this game.
The best way to get across how great this series is is to describe myself in 2016, before I ever bought Horizon 3. I had no interest in cars, and the only car games I played were Burnout. If you had to use the brakes at any point I considered that too much like hard work. Then I played Horizon 3...and quite quickly I became obsessed with it. I fell in love with cars. I started playing other racing games. Then all of them. I bought a Fanatec wheel, pedals, shifter, handbrake, and bought a gaming PC specifically so I could get into sim-racing and Assetto modding. I now watch car youtube channels, something I would have thought was the most boring thing on earth back before Horizon.
None of that would have happened if it wasn't for Horizon. When they said they wanted to 'turn gamers into car lovers and car lovers into gamers' I can say with certainty that they did so with me.
Beautiful comment
@@nikipavlin8032 Thanks :)
Mine are more the FPSs especially the PVP so I gots a treat coming.
@@SheepAmongGoats Halo Infinite?
@@thesprawl2361 yup can't wait.
Holy smokes the level of detail on the ground surfaces look incredible and the textures on the rocks and vegetation are almost photo realistic and I even saw a Xoloitzcuintli (Mexican Hairless) dog in one of the scenes running around awesome looking game can’t wait to play it.
As a Playstation fan FH5 is absolutely stunning. Well done Microsoft and Playground.
You a fan LMAO 🤣
Right ? I’m like *sigh* time to buy another Xbox. As a lifelong PlayStation user and fan I absolutely had to buy a Xbox one to play FH3 and Halo. I’ll be getting a ps5 first but you best believe I will be buying a series x in the future for the main sole reason of playing FH5
@@kriskater you lying to yourself. Xbox fans don't buy games.
@@Tinbeef22 lol! Yeah, right.
@@Tinbeef22 I buy games and I play Xbox. 🤷♂️
This game is gorgeous. One of, if not the best looking games of this generation. Hats off to Playground Games for pulling off this masterpiece!
Yep, Microsoft strucked gold with acquiring Playground Games. Can’t wait to see what Fable is going to be like
@@kwright663 was just about to say the same thing, fable is gonna look crazy.
The fact they've been able to get the performance mode rendering at 4k still is astounding.
Can’t deny that! But still as gorgeous as it is can you imagine what forza horizon 6 will look like when it doesn’t have to scale/run at all on a nearly 10 year old xbox one. An amazing job for a last gen/cross Gen game.
@@neilranson4185 Forza 6 is going to look so good👌👌
I wouldn't say of this generation only because there will be games on next gen that exceed this soon. It is a stunning game however. Playground games are masterful. Microsoft has a much stronger lineup of devs this time around
This is basically the quality of Flight Sim on Series S/X and PC. Game Pass is truly starting to provide amazing options. The future looks so bright for Microsoft.
Gamepass is the reason i'm on my xbox most of the time instead of my ps5 which has been gathering dust since i completed GoT and Ratchet n Clank
Such an amazing value gamepass is, it has the latest games and the library is huge
Looking back i don't even know why i subscribed to PS Now lol
Don't get me wrong, i'm kinda happy for all of you guys the Gamepass exist, due it opens up to more players. But i'm still more classic in that regard and prefer to own said games...
@@TheLightningYu everyone can choose so thats the good part, its good to be a gamer rn.
@@TheLightningYu I don't get it xbox gives you both there is no decision to make.
@@TheLightningYu you can still buy your games with Xbox.
Would love for you guys to analyze the ray tracing update they just released. Ray tracing is available during actual gameplay now, not just in Forzavista. They also added DLSS, DLAA, and FSR 2.2 support!
This games looks absolutely stunning. Playground Games is easily one of Xbox’s best studios. Can’t wait to play this on my Series X
Imagine how Fable will look and play? 🤯
@@PantherCrane 👌👌🔥
@@PantherCrane I wonder if they hired some ex-Lionhead Studio developers; It would be awesome if they did.
@@kavonstuart9803 I think I read somewhere that some of the members from lionhead were at playground, I could be wrong tho
@@bankaispirits That would be awesome, the ONE PROBLEM Lionhead had was Peter Molyneux(lying king).
It’s kind of crazy how some environment shots in this video looked like IRL B-roll at first glance. I used to think FH4 looked great but this game is just on another level
Y’all need to get outside more
@@spenny2cents oh boy you sure got me there stranger
It is on another level. This game looks superb. I can't wait to see Fable under this team... its going to be epic.
@@alolanstarboy I mean yeah it looks great but how you gonna confuse it for real life lmao
@@sonder006 quite literally said it looks so at first glance lol
2021 has been a surprising year for me -- my top three games are Psychonauts 2, Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart, and Guardians of the Galaxy -- three games I had no intention of playing or even enjoying. This, however, is the one game I've been waiting for since it was announced and I'm so happy it looks like it won't disappoint.
Check out Returnal. My favorite of the year so far.
@@scottd7222 Hoping Returnal comes to PC as per the leak, I was really impressed by that game even though I found the marketing subpar, maybe just confusing.
Thank you for including the audio performance in your analysis! I'd love to see a heavier focus on it in the future, as a great soundscape (as you already described) can elevate a good game to even greater heights.
"Masterpiece" is indeed a suitable word to describe Forza Horizon 5.
He would've said racing game of the generation had it been only on PlayStation...
@@MichaelDoesLife yeah he's a mug isn't he?
@@MichaelDoesLife without a doubt. He’s a guy who openly dislikes Xbox while gushing over PlayStation every chance.
The game looks stunning and you've done an incredible job with this video, not just from a content pov but the editing too
Thank you for not referring to the video itself as "content."
Some of the "content" were provided by the devs.
What a great Time to have a Series X and be able to enjoy this masterpiece ❤️😍
Excellent video! Beautifully put together. Reminds me of DF retro, love the technical analysis.
Fable is going to mind-blowing visually
Facts
I.... can't.... wait....
Excellent work as always, John. I'm just stunned, honestly. I'm a PS acolyte through and through, but what Microsoft has been doing this generation - putting games of this caliber on a subscription service DAY 1 - is truly commendable. I have never been a racing fan, but I dipped my toes into Forza Horizon 4 and thought "wow, I really like this."
I'm all-in for Forza Horizon 5.
Ummm it's their own game. It's not a challenge to put this on gp when it's all they've put out for the $1bn they made from gamepass this year 🙄🤦🏼♂️
Arw xbots this daft?
@@thedude8128 bruh I dropped Xbox for ps this gen but Microsoft could have easily banked off charging full price only
Im happy that its exclusive ❤️ and the New bethesda games will exclusive too, f you bro
It's the very first game of this caliber to go to gamepass day 1
I’ve always said the newest PlayStation and a good pc is the best combination, and that’s more true now than ever.
This presentation is "next gen", fantastic editing and narration! Wow!
From a PS fan I have to give props to Playground for this masterpiece. Amazing job. This is the kind of quality that can push me to buy a Series console.
Don't buy it yet, wait for elder scrolls 6
@@craigthebrute2848 dawg 💀
I've been trying to get a PS5 all year and it just hasn't worked out. I recently found a Series X available and jumped on it. Completely worth it with the value that Game Pass provides. I still want a PS5 for the exclusives but man, it feels good to play Xbox franchises like Forza and Halo again.
@@Turrbulence PS5 exclusives? Don't see many of those and their games are too short, the highest rated new game of 2021 is this one
@@craigthebrute2848 It's good that you are giving Xbox free advertising, but I'm not sure why there are still any Sony fanboys what's the point? The console is weaker, the games released on ps5 are weaker it has no games you would want to play over, Gamepass laughs ar Sony charging £70, but lol the most highest rated new ip game is Deathloop a Microsoft Studio's game
If FH5 looks this good and runs this well in series x/s, i cant wait see what they could achieve in fm8/fh6 with the new forzatech engine.
im surpised they still make separate games, seems like they could just add all the tracks and features to FH so you can open world drive then switch to a track while keeping all your cars and settings and just start calling it Forza not motorsport or horizon
@@vitsadelhole The driving physics are different, Motorsport is somewhat more realistic. It'd be weird to have two handling models in the same game, even in separate modes.
@@PositronCannon not particularly weird the game already has sliders and games like msfs already are able to switch from arcade like to simulation there is plenty of precedent here
@@vitsadelhole well forza motorsport is heading towards more simulation based physics so I don't see that happening
Most impressive. I would love to see this attention to detail and tech being used in a new PGR game.
You and me both
I think there alot of shared stuff with horizon and PGR. I think quite a few ex-PGR developers work there.
Oh man, would love another PGR..
Horizon is literally PGR. We won’t see pgr again.
Surprised you say that as the Ferrari footage screamed PGR to me.
Imagine a PGR remake in which you can cruise around the cities open world style with other players like in Forza Horizon and make custom content.
John's video are definitely the best. You can feel the passion and of course, the production is top notch!
This video was amazing and really got to everything people were curious on a technical level thanks guys! Keep up the fantastic work!
This just proves that playground deserve to be making the new fable,
This new weather system alone is evidence enough,
All the changes to the forzatech engine such as audio and weather by playground is helping make turn 10 effort with the new motorsport abit easier,
This makes me really excited for the next Forza Motorsport.
Right! If PG made this stunning game with the current Tech and engine. I can't wait to see what they make next with the upgraded engine later on this console generation, Fable included.
They used like 5 years on Forza 8 so far. Will probably be a new benchmark game for racing. It will also have Ray Tracing in game.
This along with GTA VI is going to blow our minds in 2027
@@pouification that's a little optimistic for gta 6
Why? Those track racing games are boring. Only world is the only way to go now
I have nothing but respect for Playground Games for making such efforts to push the limits and optimize their games. Also to not rush to release in an incomplete state, especially in todays world where it pretty much became the norm to release a game each year even at the cost of quality, innovation, and buggines. It probably has to do with the publisher Xbox as well but idk.
incredible work both from the devs and digital foundry, thanks
This is absolutely fantastic. I never thought I'd have to choose between performance and quality but WOW. It's beginning to look like a great time to be an Xbox Series owner.
Even better to be a PC owner. I can't wait to play this in 4k max settings at 120hz.
Go performance 60fps👍
@@zombieimpact-vi5is a PC with better performance that a PS5/ XBOX SX is the same if u buy 3 next gen consoles, and im a PC owner too. for now the best option is consoles
What? The consoles are great for what they are but my PC massively outperforms both of them in every way. The consoles are good for the price if you can get them for msrp. I had both consoles and then I sold them to my buddy after I finished building my rtx 3080ti, Intel core i9 10850k gaming pc.
@@zombieimpact-vi5is no one care about u PC Dude
I love this more technical "deep dive". Really impressive game, too.
I would love to see them hold any playstation under a similar microscope, for a true comparison
Amazing work, John Linneman. Will someone at DF give this guy a raise?! I might be biased about the subject matter but the production quality of this video and the thorough detail are at the top echelon of what's available on UA-cam. Thanks for the content, DF.
Always such a premium quality video experience with DF. Keep up the good work, you guys are amazing.
This is cross gen? Imagine when they go all in on series s/x! 😲
Games will be mindblowing once they are built specifically for next gen soon
If i'm not mistaken, that's what the next Forza Motosport is going to be. Can't wait.
Isn’t the next Forza Motorsport going to only be on next gen?
@@Totone56 I think you’re correct. I think it releases next year.
My god, imagine what Fable will look like...
Really great looking game. I'm looking forward to play it in a couple of days.
But the bug at 25:15 was hilarious.
you ninjed me
That car has hops, hope we can get the same upgrade!
Yup, just commented on that myself. I wasn't the only one to catch that I guess. If this were FH3, I'd suspect Drop Bears.
What bug?
@@jvillaro at 25:15 there is a car in the oncoming traffic that jumps/pops almost into the ceiling of the tunnel.
25:14 the traffic car hop lmao, Btw gr8 work done by DF for explaining the tech involved for such cross gen game
The floating vehicles in the tunnel at 25:15 distracted me a little but other than that this game looks incredible, I have it pre-loaded on my Series S and can’t wait to dive into a Forza game properly for the first time.
This is a fantastic piece of work John. Keep it up DF ✌️
Roll on next Tuesday!!! Love it when John is clearly enthusiastic about a title, the breakdowns are all the better for that!
Playground really nailed it with Horizon 5.
really excited to see how they'll do with Horizon 6 and Fable reboot.
The reflections of the cars interior/ exterior bouncing off the interior windshield *chef kiss*
Thanks John! Always a great video with you.
A touch of class from John for using the "DF RETRO" in the back plate of the cars 😂
thank you DF you are truly the greats and i am loving Horizon 5 on Series X performance mode, truly something Special, Horizon 1 feels all over again.
Premium edition early access unlocked at 12.01 am 🤔 😉
@Let me offer you this It has been out for 7 hours in the UK, by changing your console location to New Zealand.
Just commenting to support John and digital foundry. Love the content.
Superb review/analysis again, John. Really nice to watch.
I can't wait for Forza Motorsport 8.
This has been one of my favourite reviews. This game is so next gen… just amazing what the devs have done and so excited for the future
29:00 The switch from Outrun to Forza Horizon 5 is astonishing. I had my focus on the car and yes, I thought it switched to a live action video. Forza really does pas the "small screen test".
Just the video I was waiting for. The guys at Playground games are super talented. Some of the best devs out there.
I miss the 'Project Gotham Racing' series.
It wasn't just about racing, but also driving in style, stunts, challenges and Kudos combos.
On a side note, what happened to custom music that integrates well into games?
I recognize a music from Enthusia Professional Racing when i hear it. Fantastic opening music choice, good to see you guys give this game some much needed recognition!
Really good to have DF spend a portion on sound, I get that graphics is the main thing and it's easier to measure, but it's good to have this discussed.
Game of the year, completely blown away by how good it looks, plays and sounds.
Haven’t you heard?? Returdnal already won that. Lol!
Ive been telling everyone since April it’s gonna be hard to top Returnal!!
@@Massproduce201 I really didn't enjoy Returnal, one of the most frustrating games I ever played. It would be a travesty if Returnal wins GOTY.
Edit: Just checked there, Returnal only has an 85 on metacritic, no chance it's winning GOTY. Ratchet & Clank is the highest scoring PS5 game with an 88, Forza Horizon 5 currently has a 91. It will be between them two games, both are enjoyable experiences. I personally prefer FH5, let's wait, see who wins GOTY, would've no complaints about either game. They both showed what the next-gen consoles are capable of achieving.
@@karl343 Idk man it just ticked a lot of boxes for me let’s see what happens…
@@Massproduce201 Returnal was very niche though, not everyone's cup of tea. R&C, FH5 appealed to a wider audience.
Had to set my console to New Zealand to play this early and it didn’t disappoint!
It is absolutely stunning and the handling tweaks really make a difference. The level of detail is quite honestly mind boggling. The Playground Games team should so proud of their achievement!
The only one weird graphical “issue” I saw so far was on the character customisation screen where there were a lot of temporal artifacts around the hair. Really a minor grumble, but still there.
Do you just change your clock, or your location totally
@@hermnkiel1080 you have to change the location
Great analysis by DF, as always!!!!! A lover letter from John to Playground games!
27:20 ...this vibe.. driving a 'vette with some rock music on looks like one hell of an experience
Beautiful game , it's in my top 3 Best looking games of this gen so far with Ratchet and Clank and a showcase u forgot to mention at the start of the video for Series X hardware , Flight simulator... which i cannot still explained how did they mapped the entire globe and Air traffic in real time with real weather conditions ... so impressive.
Flight Simulator is not that impressive, and cannot be compared to Forza or Ratchet that have proper gameplay.
@@kostasbousbouras2654 do u think before posting shit?
@@futurearagorn9560 Flight Simulator doesn't look as good as Ratchet and Clank, as impressive as it is.
@@kasjamm Yeah a 6hr linear cartoon game for children looks better than the entire planet rendered to lifelike aunthenticity. 🤦
@@Ryan-yi5ro It's not life like lol From up high it looks nice, but it looks like Google earth close to the ground.
Thank you for discussing the sound design in the game!! It's such an important part of the immersion of a game that doesn't get talked about enough.
Hearing Wangan Midnight's - Blue Blazes gave me chills at 2:00
This game is a spectacle.
Good video greg, you were always my favorite DF member
Love the car popping into existence at 25:16 LOL.
Drop-dead beautiful game, of course, just thought that was an amazing sight.
Hoping for PC coverage from Alex regarding graphical differences to console, comparing Steam and Microsoft Store versions and giving us optimized settings 💪
Alex is probably going to review it negatively and say that the game is too vulgar because the exotic cars are too sexy.
Just buy a 3090
@@metalmacias6632 Please, for the sake of the rest of us, go outside and mate with grass.
the 3090 review yeah
@@Aggrofool i'm not spending that much on just a GPU alone lol
Fantastic vid! I'm super stoked to play this come 9th Nov 🙌
A great Digital Foundry analysis is my absolute favorite kind of analysis, and heightens my impression of a given game tremendously :)
Wow best looking racing game I've ever seen!
I currently own a PS5, and ive gotta say this looks absolutely stunning, super nice to see Series X really stretching its legs, demonstrating its capability and getting the games it deserves!! awesome work! Am i tempted? very... I just cant see how GT is gonna top this, I think the star of the show here is the open world environment and that sense of exploration...
2 different games imo. GT is the most realistic driving sims while racing on world renowned circuits. FH is more arcade like with beautiful open worlds. Personally, for myself, it comes down to casual/wild driving or pro level racing.
Dude, Starfield, Redfall, and Forza Motorsport 8 are coming next year, along with Gamepass day 1 deals like Stalker 2 and Plague 2. Halo Infinite drops in a month. The future of Xbox is exciting.
@only a northern cyclist: the open world is the star here. Sometimes i don‘t even drive events, instead i just drive around and look at stuff, search for the hidden signs and other stuff.
There are also weekly challenges where you get special points for a special store that keeps sucking you back in. (They change with the seasons once a week.)
I loved GT1-3 back then, but racing sims kind of got stale for me. Tried motorsport and it they are great games as well, but basically the same as GT. Horizon is a totaly different experience.
If you are interested try it. i played around 120hours of horizon 4 (with dlc) and didn‘t even do everything you could do. 😅
@@GViRuS84 yeah that’s what I really like, I had Test Drive Unlimited back on the 360 years ago and it was amazing, spent so much time just driving around exploring Hawaii, this seems very much in the same vein.
I’ve zero interest in Halo, never liked it, but the other stuff like Starfield looks really good
Gran Turismo is simply linear. This game isn't.
The weather especially the sky boxes, the sense of distance and height and the environmental lighting with day/night transitions is starting to approach a level where your mind thinks "I have seen or driven under skies looking like this and light conditions" Driving home from work just before nightfall looks so close to some of the night scene shown here.
Biggest challenge for games and cgi now is creating believable looking people.
WOW, thanks, this what I was HOPING to see... cant freaking wait to play it !!!
Playground Games is a beast. This is the one game that makes me want a Series X. There's nothing similar on ps5. Amazing game, i enjoyed a lot this series on 360 e One.
FH5 looks like it's going to be the first certified classic of the generation. PS5 has had some good releases but nothing jaw dropping like this. I highly recommend getting an Xbox! I have both PS5 and XSX, and the Xbox still gets a ton of use from me. With it's vast back compat library, superior back compat capabilities for cross-plat games (AutoHDR, resolution and FPS boost), and the incredible deal that is Game Pass, it's a fantastic system that is a huge step up from the XB1.
@@fartknocker5708 I second this.
@@fartknocker5708 vouch
@@fartknocker5708 For me, Demon's Souls Remake is also a masterpiece. And on the series X, we got FS2020 last summer. FH5 is the second masterpiece on the machine =)
@@luke_y_444 I wouldn't really know about Demon's Souls because while I have it and have played it several times, I still can't get past the first level (even when following a guide). I'm sure I could, but I don't have the free time to pour hours and hours into it just to get a tiny bit of progression. It's tough for me to believe that a game that's that inaccessible can be called a masterpiece.
Really enjoying this on the PC, running slightly above the extreme setting at native 4K with no resolution scaling and averaging between 70fps to 100fps, and with HDR it looks stunning, definitely a massive improvement over FH4 especially in environment details. Really does look like a true next gen game.
What pc setup?
how much different compared to fh4?
😂
@@GeminiFate I'm playing FH5 on a Lenovo Legion 7i laptop with a I7 11800H and RTX 3080 (165 watts vr.) and getting average 60 to 80fps at 4K Ultra settings.
This is a really well made video John. Your passion for gaming in general and car racing gaming in particular just oozes out so naturally. Some of your best work here.
26:53 Forza Horizon 2 intro with the meditation style video leading into Eric Prydz -Liberate. Will never forget that moment.
I've been blown away by Horizon 5 in my 20 hours of play so far. From the large, beautiful vistas to the light briefly bouncing of your Ferrari's horse emblem during a dusk race, the detail is next level.
Love the Forza Horizon series. It's one of the main games I usually buy an Xbox for. Though in this video, I did spot that really weird bug at 25:13. Where this one oncoming car does this weird skip jump for a second there. It really stuck out because everything else was so solid. Like that glitch in the matrix.
Yeah I had to rewind at that point to confirm what I'd seen because it stood out so much! Odd considering the rest of the footage is virtually flawless
The music, Jesus. It's absolutely amazing!
The graphics as well.
I already own a PS5 and yesterday I bought a Series X and forza blew me away, looks and plays amazing
This makes me even more excited to see what they do with Fable.
a masterpiece review of a masterpiece game. thank you digital foundry ❤🌹
10:10
That music reminds me of Driveclub, RIP
Great music choices
Forza Horizon has been my favorite game for a few years now. It's got the perfect combination of sim and arcade and it's very well optimized. Been playing since the 3rd game since I only play on PC. Amazing. Can't wait for tomorrow!
maybe the best tech game review i have seem in my life.... and i am close to Richard Leadbetter age, i played in spectrum, commodores, amiga etc... John Linneman ...magnificent review
We've come a long way since Road Fighter.
This fantastic looking game has made my mind up, I'm gonna try to find the series x for sale.
You wont regret it a Series X with Gamepass is the best thing in gaming right now.
You'll notice in time that it's a very smart move, regardless if you play on other consoles as well. Series X is a wonderful console.
If you buy any console for a single game you are doing a big mistake. Always find a bigger list of games you actually want to play.
That intro was sick!!
‘Pushing a great game towards the heavens!!’ AMEN BROTHER excellent breakdown/review with exceptional insight and intelligently communicated in an creative manner, DF always raising the journalistic bar and offering exceptional gaming tech review content. Hard work appreciated; achievement earned and unlocked once again.
Amazing review. Weirdly enough, reviews by reviewers who actually enjoy the game in question tend to be some of the best reviews. Also - if any game would be able to single-handedly press me into buying the new XBOX, this would make the Top 3. Well done - and greetings from Latvia.
When I started watching this video, I thought to myself, this game reminds me of driveclub from a visuals perspective. The during John’s intro to the vehicles, he plays a snippet of the driveclub loading music.
Only ps fan said that driveclub looks good. Its a piece of s..Even digital foundry was hard on graphics. I bought a ps4 pro and go to play the suppose to be a great looks ng game. Then i realize how stupid a fanboy could be. Piece of crap in every category. Crap!!
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Uh... no they didn't. If memory serves they were harsh on the AA implementation in Driveclub only.
Driveclub still looks better than this game and it features SSR on car bodies in game faking RT even though it's a last gen game with no PS4 Pro enhancements. Additionally Driveclub's weather effects are also an improvement over what is shown here in FH5 and things like POM were also used liberally on tracks and building surfaces. Volumetrics were everywhere with SSS and appropriate translucency for plants... again things that DF says are new to FH (which isn't strictly true but it certainly doesn't look right in FH4), but were already a thing modeled correctly in Driveclub.
Driveclub's weather systems are very dynamic and while you wouldn't see a dust storm in Chile literally all other forms of weather are accounted for including rain, snow, aurora and lightning which was only just featured for the first time in the base game with FH5, but again was in Driveclub (although added post launch it is shown everywhere).
Clouds are also volumtric fully dynamic casting appropriate shade, GI and even being factored into dynamic cubemap reflections so glass doesn't show a void for sky reflections. That said other Volumetrics in Driveclub were more accomplished than previous Forza Motorsport and Horizon titles. It looks like Playground Games is just catching up with regards to accurate light transport with respect to volumetric effects on smoke clouds. Wind also seems to hardly be a consideration for plumes of smoke in previous Forza Motorsport and Horizon titles.
Seriously if I break things down point by point FH5 is still catching up to Driveclub and so too is Microsoft Flight Simulator (which still looks better than this so long as you fly an appropriate distance away from the ground; enough to showcase massive levels of detail but far enough to hide the seams).
Driveclub was so far ahead of its time it is still the bar to beat in my personal opinion. However my opinions aside when you look at Driveclub objectively in terms of the shear number of visual effects being run in realtime at 30FPS in 1080p in a game... the closest comparison is Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) for PC specifically and even so the PC struggles to keep things looking as good as Driveclub particularly clouds and reflections in water bodies. It's actually quite odd that a PS4 exclusive from 2014 is still neck and neck with the latest PC and Xbox games.
Meanwhile other PS4 and PS5 games are pushing settings similar to Driveclub today like Ghost of Tsushima and Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart.
Bottom line this game while much better looking than previous Forza games - by quite a bit - it's still playing catch up to the best looking games already out there including some open world titles like Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima.
Anyway that's all from me... go away now.
Can I just say how perfectly fitting it is to have Blue Blazes from Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune playing at the fade to title card at 2:01!? So goooooood.
18:22
This is SCARY good. Did not even know if this was a render or not. DAMN
25:15 The car suddenly jumping made me laugh. Fantastic video John, and what a great game from Playground once again. Thank you
He was playing with real people. Somebody just log in the game. There is a name on the top of that car.
@@theichi4135 Still funny tho
@@caiustox it was lol
even the 30 fps runs better than most 30fps games
30fps capping from 12 t-flop console
@@spenny2cents at max pc settings...
@@spenny2cents You tried, kid.
@@spenny2cents in performance mode the game can hit 4K 60 digital foundry just did a whole video on it and they were extremely impressed the game doesn't look much different from the full quality mode
@@spenny2cents You get an "F" for effort, little guy.