Halo Infinite on Consoles: Xbox Series X/S vs Xbox One S/X - Can Xbox One Run It?
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2021
- Every Xbox console tested with 343 Industries' long-awaited Halo sequel. Open world gameplay defines Infinite, on an engine that scales impressively to all consoles old and new. Xbox One gets the first billing in this analysis as we test original 2013 hardware - where a dynamic 1080p and 30fps cap are respectably held, if let down by uneven frame-pacing. How does Xbox One X, Series S and X augment this experience? Are frame-rates successfully locked at 60fps on more powerful consoles? And what of loading times? Tom runs through every version, every mode, to get you the answers in this breakdown.
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Honestly the 60fps mode on the One X is impressive.
Couldn’t believe how much better the game felt on one x switching to performance
@@Newlegacy1517 same, it really should be the default mode. Quality feels broken tbh
Upgrade your One X with an SSD and your halfway to next gen...
@@nonnygb I did and it was so worth it. We have 2 One Xs, my personal one and a family room one: I put an SSD internally in my personal one and it’s amazing, the one without honestly feels broken in comparison
Not impressive when it's at 720p.
To be completely honest, I'm utterly impressed by the base Xbox One version. Overall looks very respectable, and certainly much better than most third party games recently released on the system.
is it on xCloud though? Streaming at 1080p60 on base xbox would be even more impressive
@Keelan Behave.
@Keelan do you have that set up?
@Keelan BF1 is not open world. Something like far cry would rather be accurate.
@@vandammage1747 Wouldn’t call that more impressive, streaming is far less demanding than the game running on Xbox One hardware, if anything it’s more of a benchmark for your internet lol
Have the Series X in my Game room and the ONE X in my bedroom. So glad that it runs at 60fps, that console is still a beast to this day !
Big difference from online game play ?? And do other players online who have series X have advantage when shooting and all in terms or speed .?
Reminder that Halo 4 was a technical and visual masterpiece on Xbox 360 at 720p30 while running at 1080p60 on base Xbox One
It’s a good point. I hear some say that Halo was never about the graphics - and not with disregard to the gameplay, but combat evolved (showcase for the OG Xbox), Halo 2 (best graphics of it’s generation), Halo 3 (unprecedented visuals outside of maybe crisis) and Halo 4 as you say would suggest a legacy very much in space of superb visuals
@@Archivist42 I'd say only Halo 1 and 4 had groundbreaking visuals for their time. Every other Halo was mostly perfunctory (never on the bad side. Halo 5 is also really high there, but no AF, draw distance, low shadow resolution and quite low dynamic resolution drags it down massively)
Halo 2 best visuals for Xbox generation? Not even close. For reference, OG Xbox runs: Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Far Cry Instincts, all which are vastly more impressive than Halo 2.
@@Archivist42 Halo 3 540p?!?!it look good on MCC but it was heavyly criticized for the graphics on Xbox 360
Halo 4 didn’t have ground breaking visuals
@@FlipFlopGod Still one of the best looking Xbox 360 games
and looking like new game on MCC
I was really impressed with my One X performance. You can feel the load times are long, but overall Performance is damn solid.
I use an SSD for my external storage on my One X. Have Halo and Forza 5 installed on there. Load times are drastically reduced.
I have an internal SSD in my One X and the game loaded the first time around 16.5 seconds. Reloading from dying was around 4-5 seconds. All similar to the Series S. In performance mode I forgot I wasn’t playing on my Series X. Very impressive IMO.
@@rockapartie the frame rate is solid but the frame pacing is just so bad, really hoping they patch it soon because without that it looks absolutely stellar. Atleast performance is essentially the same thing with more frame and reduced resolution
@@rockapartie it's a mess on series s and x too. The second I turned it on and starting playing I became dizzy. It was insanely disgusting to look at , all 17 frames of it 😂
@@rockapartie everyone knows 30fps sucks
Really impressed with base XBO. Well done guys. That is a hell of a feat
it REALLY is, especially when you compare this to something like Cyberpunk, or wtih GTAV back when it launched on 360 /Xbone back in its day. this is EIGHT YEAR OLD hardware (christ, am i really that old now? feels like yesterday)
@@_devolve Nah, cyberpunk isn’t the best comparison cuz that game is unoptimized as shit
I agree, but this is done at a cost of the XSX version looking like a remaster of a last-gen game and nowhere near a true next-gen game. The same issue is there with multiple cross-gen titles on both Xbox and PS. The issue carries over to PC as well, as you can't increase the graphics much beyond the XSX version.
@@dusanmihajlovic3587 yea. I really hope they ditch base Xbox One. But the problem is that most xbox players only have that. Its nearly impossible to get a next gen machine, except for Series S
@@_devolve Cyberpunk 2077 looks awesome on Xbox One S. No argument.
It seems like they'd changed the framerate caps in the series S modes of 60/120 to 30/60 and forgot to bump up the resolution. Series S version looks rushed comparing with the others.
@@rockapartie yet far cry 6 performs and looks way better? Its optimization buddy 343 has no experience in open worlds.
@@jisooarrambide5536 it's both dude if the series s wasn't such a hold back it would be much easier to optimise between the two
@@TristanTheVRGamecat so why is far cry 6 1440p at 60fps?
@@jisooarrambide5536 no buddy, its the experience that studio has for doing right optimization at the availible hardware, and the series s is a scum in that point
@Airmanareiks they are both using the same architecture which means you can more or less give an accurate prediction how well irl perform. It’s 3x slower flat
As someone with an internal SSD in my old Xbox One X, I may load it up and see what the loading times are compared to HDD for fun since I will be playing on Series X. In Forza, it cut a massive chunk off of loading times although it can’t touch Series consoles by any means.
Same here, SSD in my one X. I’m actually going to install it to all my systems, Series X, One X and One S just to compare loading times.
I added an enclosed M.2 NVME to my One S Gears of War Red console. It seemed almost as fast as Series S loading for games. I have since moved it to an external drive for my Series S. I haven't noticed a difference between internal SSD and external SSD loading speeds. M.2 NVMEs are amazing. I have the Intel version; didn't work with my older PC so bought an enclosure and use it as external Series S storage, 1TB.
I loved my Xbox One X Scorpio and yes, installing an internal SSD made a big difference to the stock drive, reducing load times significantly. Mind you, I really love my Series X, quick resume is fantastic, especially as I have one Series X in my office, I can sneakily switch it on a resume my game within about 10 seconds, making it much harder for my boss to catch me in the act.
I’m downloading now at 100Mbps, almost finished now.
@@DEMediaDrive i'm sorry, how did yyou add an m.2 nvme ssd to an xbox one s??
@@DubElementMusic kids (parents can be very cheap and uneducated when it comes to gaming computers) and people who buy junk prebuilts on Amazon, AliExpress, etc that still use HDDs.
I think the 1080p30 on Series S is just for marketing reasons (favouring Series X). That machine could easily handle 1440p30 or even 2160p30 in my opinion.
For a next Gen console I expected 1440p 60fps in quality and 1080p 120fps performance. Especially for a game developed by 343 and microsoft
It will once they are not making games for Xbox one anyway. Then they can target all the features. However it is still only a 4 tflop machine at the end of the day.
As they should be, the Series S isn’t even worth it to begin with lmao.
@@corpsegrinder5064 you don't understand anything about game's do you
It’s really amazing what they’re able to achieve with those Jaguar Cores. That FX platform is still kicking and it looks amazing on One X.
we only imagine what series x will do in 2 years. 4k 60 with even higher fidelity is 😎
Jaguar is a separate architecture from the FX/bulldozer series. It's a low power mobile core and doesn't have the split core and cache design.
@@Jaker788 i heard it was considered trash even back in the day (the jaguar)
@@coolsteve1342 It was a bit like the Intel Atom core, although Jaguar used out of order execution unlike the Atom cores at the time, it also have AVX support with a 128 bit execution width. Apparently they did share cache, L2 was shared between 4 cores with no L3.
It wasn't very fast, but it was reasonably efficient. I'm not sure how it compared to Atom at the time though.
@@sharathvasudev honestly what I look forward to there is just a far more dynamic world with more physics & AI going on like wildlife, weather, the open world not just using the same handful of assets (thanks to SSD data streaming) - even large-scale destruction & transformation where your actions in missions have an effect on the wider world.
The biggest problem in Infinite IMO is how static & homogenous the world is.
They're getting every ounce of power out of the OG X1, I'm rather impressed its still able to run this. This is some quality programming at work.
@Transistor Jump for an 8 yr old console with an ancient cpu and gpu I think it looks as good as it'll ever look on the console, which isn't half bad.
@@briengakaplan-b1550 we have seen games like rdr2 on base consoles, halo being on base xbo doesnt seem that suprising
@@jin3257 Fr lmao, people are praising it too much, this game should run better on ALL do the consoles then it does but it diesnt
Yeah to be fair it is an impressive send off for the one x
@@lum1notryc828 I feel like im taking crazy pills. People are saying this is a good showing for the Xbox One? When you have open world last gen games that look and run better, i would even say FC4 or 5 look better than this, then you have stuff like RDR2 and lets not even talk about Sony's 30fps open world games like Spider Man, Horizon or Ghost that look and run way better on base PS4. This is a poor showing for the biggest franchise and AAA game from Xbox.
I get that we all wanna love this game but the Series S's slogan is "simply next-gen" and I'm not seeing anything next-gen about its version of Halo Infinite
strongly hoping they'll at least optimize better for Series S over time
@@rockapartie this is 100percent bad optimizing on 343 part. We all knew they didint exactly have a portfolio containing open world games but damn it really shows the lack of experience.
This is purely on 343. Forza Horizon 5 makes Halo Infinite on Series S seem laughable.
@@rockapartie series s has better ram cuz one x is ddr5 and series s is ddr6 it only has better graphics cars but since series s is 1080p and one x is 4k the series s should still have way better frames per second
It looks great for a $300 console, not sure what the deal is. No $300 PC could run it this well. People's perception of "next gen" comes from what the series x and ps5 can do, it's impossible for series S to match that.
@@nahi27 that's really not true the series s was targeted perform exactly the same as series x with only difference being in resolution of 4k to 1080p. Also take a look at the size of the game the entire campaign is only 18 gbs that's not a tough game to handle. Warzone is 80gb and can handle 120 fps and the graphics look better aswell
Compared to how Series X looks, I’d say they did a great job at scaling this game to last gen consoles, unlike CDPR as of recent
But it looks like a last gen game as a result. Forza did a much better job. Quality mode looks leagues ahead of Xbox One. This is not the case here.
Well it started development on last gen consoles so the series versions are ports
At least CDPR let us have an almost unlimited range to turn up the graphics, though, On PC this game here (Halo) looks awful, the lighting is laughable compared to 2077.
Exactly my thoughts. Much more positively surprised with these versions than the series X and PC.
Maybe cause Its originally meant to be a last gen game. Certainly looks like one
Even though I have a One X at home, I have my launch Xbox One at my parents' place so I can play Halo Infinite MP when I go to visit them. It is a surprisingly decent experience with a wired internet connection and game mode enabled. Looking forward to checking out the SP.
I do the same, was playing warzone all last xmas break on the og black xbox one at my parents place and it was a great time.
What’s the frame rate on multiplayer on the Xbox one ?
@@michaelyates1514 30
Forgot to mention that I replaced the original controller (stuck on firmware 2.3) which came with the launch Xbox One with a used Xbox One X controller on latest firmware 5.11 and there is a definite improvement in input latency. Further, using wired headphones with Dolby Atmos enabled is another big plus.
Competitive multiplayer shooters beg for 60fps or better. The improved input response being the critical factor.
Thanks for the in depth vid. 👍
I have an X1 and it's nice to know I don't have to wait till the new systems become more available before I can play this.
As someone who is stuck on the Xbox One S I'm quite happy with how it looks and runs. Honestly it's very impressive compared to a lot of games we've been getting lately.
I'm happy to be playing the game on the One S too. I wasn't planning on getting it because I thought it would be a very downgraded version but I play on a 1440p monitor and it looks good. I'm satisfied. As long as I get to experience the story.
@@GeorgeNadaYT well you don't have to plan to get it with gamepass 😏
Don't forget if you have Gamepass Ultimate you can stream the game (on your Xbox One) which should be running on Series S hardware (so possibly up to 60 fps). Yes, there will be a slight input delay, but it's honestly completely acceptable. It's certainly better than playing the game at 30 fps with bad frame time and worse visual settings.
@@SabatSch95 I wish I could but my internet isn't good enough to stream to my Xbox without serious artifacts
@@SabatSch95 Don't Xbox cloud games run on XSX hardware?
Really wouldn't be bothered with 120fps mode on Series S but I would love to see them maybe get up to a dynamic 1440p60.
Wishful thinking but the performance in multiplayer on Series S is fantastic.
They should be in so disappointed that I bought a aeries s now! Smh
@@akkibajaj705 Expecting 120fps from a Series S is stupid in the first place though. Having 1080/1440p and 60fps for 300$ is already luxury. Why always asking more than what you can get...
@@MadX8 Doom Eternal does 1080p 120FPS like an absolute champ on the XSS, looks stellar and feels so smooth. Halo Infinite looks somewhere between Halo 3 and 4 graphically, to my eye, so I'm really surprised they dropped the ball. One of the reasons I got an XSS to supplement my PC and XSX is the occasional "eSports" title at 1080p 120FPS, dynamic resolution is fine by me. They literally advertised Infinite as having 120FPS on XSS, man. Huuuuuge disappointment, I'm not even gonna play it on that system.
@@FFFan3445 In my eyes it looks better than any other Halo game. Obviously. There's plenty of content showcasing how the game looks but I'm currently playing it on my pc and it looks better than the entirety of the MCC which I've played multiple times over but maybe on the Series S it does look worse? smh
@@MadX8 Bruh the new Halo isn't THAT pretty with some adjustments to the settings it should easily hit a dynamic 1080p 120fps you'd just have to put the settings down to what would be mid to low settings on PC.
Still remember playing Halo CE back in Christmas 2003 when I first got the Xbox, it came as part of a bundle (along with Midtown Madness 3 and Lord of the Rings Returning of the King)! Beautiful days!
Being stuck with the OG xbox one sucks, but I was still able to enjoy this game and got chills so many times. Amazing job on the optimization 343
Love that cloud streaming will keep even O.G. xbox one a viable console.
You not stuck you just can’t afford the other consoles there’s a difference 😂😂 you had plenty of opportunities to upgrade from that
@@deanta14 Try growing a brain cell or two in your spare time.
They got it working on original Xbox one. Remember when Cyberpunk 2077 came out and people were trying to defend it saying "Yeah it's selling on PS4 and Xbox One but it wasn't meant for last gen so don't get mad because it's broken"... Lol
Yeah and it was broken for all systems. They were just in denial.
I’m hoping 343 update the quality mode back to 1440p on series S
Same hope they re add 120fps mode.
1440p60 and 1080p60
How may videos of Halo Infinite you guys can release in one week?
DF: yes
Good work Thomas as usual.
best infinite xbox comparison!! there are a lot of videos out there, but you guys rock!
Yes the triplet is here, this one must have been a real labour to put together. Good work Tom.
I remember when you guys did more split screen testing. I would really love to see that return
Great comparison video Tom!.
sometimes I cant believe how much work DF put into literally every minor detail in there videos
Looking forward to playing this on my Series S!
I’ll take the 60fps mode on Series S. low resolution but at least good frame rate which is more important.
Might as well save up and the X for an extra $150
it is extremely blurry in 60fps :(
@@manlykscorpa Extra $200, not $150, and far less available. I lucked out and got an XSX in December 2020, and I've been trying since then to get one for my father. Haven't had a single other opportunity. I bought my sister's household two XSS systems and they almost always have them in stock at my local Walmart, man.
One x > series s
@@GarryDaltona are you using a potato as your tv?
Thank you very much for this video; it was extremely detailed and helpful. As someone who has never owned an XBox before (I only ever played the original Halo on my cousins’ console back in the day) I was really in the dark about what, if any, advantage there would be in paying $500 for a next-Gen console when the game is also available on older, cheaper hardware. Given that I don’t have a TV capable of displaying in 4K anyway, I think the XBox One X makes a lot more sense for me. It’s much more affordable and still looks great.
I think it's a better deal than a Series S. I recommend at least an external SSD connected to it. I have an internal one in mine
Just started playing this on my Series X and I'm HAVING A BLAST!
It's impressive how the Xbox One X is able to run it even close to 60fps at times, but I still can't help but wonder how Infinite would've panned out if it came out last year. Especially given the rough optimization on PC when not capped to 60fps.
Or if it was just optimized for next gen and PC, I wonder how the game would've looked
Tbh in this case at least One X> Series S
Looks like the One X can very well run most next games if devs want to develop for it.
@@alexandrecl4331 One X can not run at all proper next gen games because the jaguar CPU is a dog shit performer. Thats what defines Halo Infinite, it is not a next gen game because it was built up in the enclosure that is the jaguar.
^ it can’t run next gen games at 60 fps because of that. However it won’t have any problems running them at 1080-1440p/30. One X could last a lot longer if Microsoft wanted.
@@alexandrecl4331 not this argument again, why people still think one x is better than series s?
Yeah honestly around 5:20 that's a pretty hard take. If I had an my original XO and it played this well and looked this good for an almost decade old machine, I'd be pretty happy. They also probably got it ready for XO, got told at one point the One X was planned and to build it around that, then the same for series X.
This game is amazingly optimized and I love the videos you guys and been putting up. Thank you ❤️
You would be happy with those graphics? Idk why people are settling when the game is made for that console. Just because it’s last gen it don’t mean anything and this is a Microsoft publisher game. It looks very xbox 360 like and that’s sad
Really disappointed by the series s performance. The frame rates are all over the place, which is crazy because the multiplayer was pretty steady. Hopefully the update didn't ruin it
That console is going to hold back next gen gaming why the hell did they make it less powerful than the one X
Are you getting odd little stutters in the campaign as well on series s? I have searched everywhere for someone with the same issue as me. I want to be sure it's not my Xbox causing the odd stutters and weird 50fps cutscenes.
IDK about you all but the resolution on the Series X is not that great as well especially when you set it to performance mode with 120hz enabled. From my perspective the game really looks like an Xbox one version. Who knows if a performance patch will be released.
@@cowqx8059 It will be fine once they use full RDNA 2 . They know what they are doing and Developers love the little thing anyway. The Unreal Engine 5 Matrix tech demo is seriously impressive on Series S. The One X can't even run the demo.
No it's not. In performance mode XSS runs 60fps flawless.
I'm glad that the Quality mode on Series X runs at 60 fps. I hate having to make the trade-off between 60 fps or best visuals in other games. Here I get just the best and that's it. Love that.
Love the feel of performance mode on my One X, definitely good enough for me until I get a series x. Can't wait to get home and play more of this game today, gee, haven't said that in quite a while 😂
@@rockapartie agreed the series s should just be dropped what a waste of time calling it a next gen console advertising it as a 1440p box when barely any games run higher than 1080p
It’s really devastating to me that Halo Infinite is not 120fps on series s. That’s the reason why I bought series s to play 120 but I can’t play it on Halo, Xbox’s flagship title, yes I can play 120 on fortnite for example but I play Xbox for Halo man 😭 really gutted.
Yes the triple crown! I was stoked to hear Tom pop on for this video.
Is it just me or microphone sound quality sound better that before ? Also very interesting video thanks ! :)
It's good to see the entire team looking at this one.
Ofc, they're in the pocket of MS. Need to promote this hard af
@@Mutation80 seeth
@@Mutation80 Nothing to do wiht the fact that it's a big launch, a lot of people are waiting for it, and that means it brings in views. What do you expect them to do? Give half-assed coverage and flush a shitload of views down the toilet? Don't be silly.
@@nicwilson89 yeah again what do these people expect them to do? *Halo infinite is out* every whistles and puts their hands of their ears..
I'm glad I have a One X. Hopefully I can get a Series X off the shelf before 2023
So Series S runs at dynamic 1080p and 30fps with better textures on quality mode, or 1080p 60fps on performance mode?
It's a shame, I expected at least 1440p 30fps, or 1080p 120fps.
1080p120 in open world? Did you expect XSX to be 1800p120 too?
It's very optimistic to expect a tripe-A cutting edge game to run at 1080p 120 FPS on Series S
@@franciscofarias6385 the x drops below the s in performance mode. The s has the most consistent ranges of resolution
@@hunterbowser667 I'm sorry, I don't get your point
@@franciscofarias6385 cutting edge game? Lol
Quality mode on S is baffling, almost to the point of making me think its a bug and it was not supposed to render at that resolution
Same!
I've got to say, I really like Thomas' new narration style. Well done!
It is good but everytime he says Halo it sounds like he is saying Hello.
They've done a great job. Can't wait for co-op!
Optimization by 343 across all platforms is commendable. Very happy with how this game looks and performs(Especially on the SX).
doesn't seem optimized on series s. it lost features from beta and has same cpu as x.
@@terrydavid86 It's the GPU that's holding it back. A more modern feature set compensates somewhat, but can't reach the desired resolution/frame rate targets that the One X does. It should be a bit closer though, which does make the Series S version seem a bit unoptimised.
I want to see a video about running Halo: Infinite on the really old hardware the game is technically compatible with. Halo: Infinite on Radeon 7970 por favor!
nope
I’d love to see what the load times of a stock Xbox one x Vs one which has been upgraded with an SSD to see how that scales
On my XOX it's 25.06 sec. from game main menu to gameplay on my old Samsung 970 Evo (480 GB) external. In game between missions less but did not measured it yet. I'm really happy with the result.
SSD on the last gen machines won't work with the fullest potential. easier to get a current gen already and don't struggle :)
@@JAKOB1977 I can confirm that even external SSD with XOX give loafing times close to new consoles in many cases. Cyberpunk 2077 have almost same loading times like on PS5 (2 sec difference max).
the major difference is quick resume. you jump right back avoiding all other screens.
Nice video. Do you feel boosting the FOV hits performance somehow?
This makes sense since Halo Infinite was designed on the Xbox one.
I still love my One X man. Seriously. Great to see it getting the support it deserves and not left behind
I loved my one x until I got the series X. Now I can't stand the fps and loading times on it. It was definitely my favorite last gen console though.
Better than the Series S here
@@scissortongue5772 try on the Stalker 2. Halo is bad optimized
@@wg8561 For those of us though still to land a Series X I'm happy. I got a Series S, but all the games I played were better on the One X, I gave the S to my son. X is different gravy though, I'm very aware but for now I'm very happy with the support the One X is still getting.
@@BACK2PORT Series s plays most games at 60fps though, one x is only 30.
The series S needs major work
Gonna watch this whilst I wait for the Infinite Campaign to download. Good to know which setting to close once I’m ready to go.
Same!!!
I'm happy with series S I just want a locked 60 fps with at least 1080p and MS has given me plenty of games that hit that
Something up with Tom's voice in this one? Seems like he has a bit of a lisp or maybe getting over a cold?
Either way, we love ya, Tom!
Really good Video DF.
It's looking like 60fps is the way too go on anything that isn't the Low End Xbox systems.
I've only got a Series S, so 1080p/60fps Performance Mode is the Mode I am gonna be sticking with methinks.
I would like too see a 120fps Mode on the Series S maybe at 720p and a 1440p/30fps Mode on the Series S wouldn't go a miss either, if 343 could Add them in at some point, it would be very much be appreciated.
I would much prefer 1440p at 60fps. And 1080p at 120fps.
@@AscensionINC-zi1jz if that happens on the Series S, I would be more than happy with that 👍.
@@AscensionINC-zi1jz Same.
I bet in a while they'll patch that out but I still think it looks good
All versions beside the Series S one look great. They should work on that post launch and optimize it at least a bit more.
I'm really surprised that Series S is only running at 1080p in quality mode, when it can hit 60FPS at 1080P with DRS and only minor settings reductions - seems like they were trying for 60 quality and 120 performance but couldn't make it work well enough so used this as a fall back? I would have preferred quality mode at 1440p, those 3-way comparisons make Series S look very blurry but the overall game looks pretty clean
XSS is a console aimed to 1080p settings, and works great on it, what serves 1440p? Get a Series X instead.
@@dzretromachine is it aimed at 1080p though? I don't recall xbox ever talking about it being a 1080p machine. I have a 55' 4K display, so 1440p would look much better than 1080p. I would get a series X if A, they were easy to find, B they didn't take up so much room. It would not fit in my current TV cabinet and there's no way I can justify buying a whole new TV cabinet just for a new xbox.
@@dzretromachine the console literally supports 4k that's one of it's selling points that it's powerful at a low price?
Thomas Morgan featuring a stuffy nose, lol.
Fomas morgum
Lmao so subtle
get well soon brother
Very happy I transitioned to PC. I was playing initially on Series S during the flights and was loving the 120FPS, such a shame that they took the option away. Most people that want the 120hz option are comp players so giving up some image quality is not a big deal to us
The frame pacing issues in cutscenes (series X) is so much more noticeable in-game than on UA-cam. Sorry for ever doubting you, guys.
This video was really well done and gave excellent comparisons! I just upgraded to an ASUS Vg32VQ monitor, currently still on OG Xbox one. Was able to order a Series X today from Walmart at MSRP (finally), and super stoked to see the performance upgrade first hand soon!
Good stuff, the scalability of the game is definitely impressive although it is a little bit surprising to me how hard it is for the game to hold a 120fps framerate on both the Series X and PC. CPU usage doesn't seem to be that high on PC, yet from benchmarks I've seen the performance difference between a 3060ti, 3070, and 3080 is pretty small which almost implies it IS CPU bound.
Perhaps the game was just never designed with >60fps in mind, which I suppose would make sense since it started out as a Xbox One only game. Hope that in future updates the 120fps mode on Xbox Series X stabilizes more and the PC version is able to hit that framerate with relative ease as well.
I do find it a little bit baffling how a game that runs generally at 30fps 1080p on the Xbox One can't hit an average above 100fps on the lowest settings at 1080p on my PC (GTX 1080 and i7 8700k)
Poor optimisation on 343s part
Yeah it’s the CPU optimization, on GeForce I have the performance stats up and during open world the CPU goes much high and then results in jittering . I have a 3070 ….. and I’m hitting 50 fps on ultra 1440 in outdoor environments , indoor roughly 90
Uh could you say that in normal people language nerd
@@TheNaturalGamer1 game run good on old but meh on new
@@kameronrogers4000 that makes no sense
Tom, it sounds like you have a new microphone and have also taken the change as an opportunity to change the style of your speech. It's good, well done, it's a much better presentation.
Hope your cold gets better, tom
I feel like series s 30fps should run at 1200p-1600p
@BigBoss It was originally running at that same resolution(locked 1080p) but at 60fps, then at 1080p with DRS at 120fps, i don't know why they changed it.
@BigBoss They might have done this bc of the future RT update.
@BigBoss no it's not. There are many games that achieve above 1440p including mass effect, ori, the tourist, AC Valhalla, and many others
@BigBoss Well, it will improve the lighting(global illumination) and shadows(RT shadows), two of the biggest aspects where Infinite falls short, visually.
Man I love the Xbox One X. I wish mine hadn't died. Kicked the bucket during a storm. It was the one console I forgot to take out of rest mode and turn completely off. RIP old friend.
Damn that sucks! My condolences!
X1X was an amazing console. It was remarkably both the smallest console of last gen AND the most powerful. I went away from Xbox with the initial release of Xbox One, but the One X brought me back and I haven’t left since
I think the design of the One X is my favorite of any Xbox. Its just so sleek for how much power it packs.
No surge protector?
This is exactly why I unplug all my consoles after using them
Great to see the One X still kicking ass!
Brilliant, thanks.
There's a weird flickering and fps issue going on with Series X when playing in quality - mode (system set to 120hz, VRR on). When exiting Halo, starting another game, and switching back via quick resume, the issue is gone. Hope they're already aware of this and a fix is underway..
Yoooooo I came here looking for this. My quality mode on series x is terrible. Also set to 120hz and VRR but it doesn't feel like 60fps at all. I had to go down to performance mode and oddly that feels just like 60fps and not 120fps. Quick resume hasn't solved this for me yet, I hope it's fixed soon.
@@Timeforceletsgo Try turning off VRR! I've played some games where 60 fps doesn't feel right, and turning off VRR seemed to help.
Let me know if it helps! Still trying to figure it out myself 😊
@@Brisingr73 I tried this earlier, and I even bumped down to 60hz. It's weird, the quality mode feels very choppy, and cannot be hitting 60fps consistently at all. The performance mode however is pretty smooth but as I said earlier, it doesn't feel like it's targeted at 120hz. Just something feels off, and I hope it's fixed soon. For now I can play it and performance and take the image quality hit, having too much fun to stop.
@@Timeforceletsgo Damn that sucks. I haven't played the campaign yet but I hope they fix the issue soon!
No surprise there. This game began its hands-on-keyboard-development when Xbox One was at its prime, and the One X being announced internally.
This game was developed for those 2 consoles. The Series S/X was a bonus.
I´ve been playing the MP beta since release on my Xbox One X at 60 fps and even in my 55 inch 4K TV it looks great. Sometimes the framerate drops a bit and the most distracting thing I have noticed is the lower FPS annimations, specially on enemies but also on other things. Really, very surprised by the performance of One X.
No one cares
Did any of the performance issues in this video on the Series S get fixed with the recent updates?
Just had tp download a 60gb update after not playing the game since last spring.
Something is seriously wrong with the S version. At almost 3x the GPU power of the base Xbox, it's odd they are at the same resolution. I would have expected dynamic 1440p 30 and 1080p 60 without dynamic rez.. oh well. Another patch i guess
I’m guessing the series s/x versions will be getting much more attention post launch. Whatever they’re like today should be considerably better in a couple of months.
I think that if it ran at the same settings as the One then they could have had the same 60/120 quality/performance mode that the X has.
Same. The fact it doesn’t run at locked 1080p60fps is weird. Find it hard to believe it’s not capable of that
Looking at that Frametime graph I feel like I'm watching a video on a FromSoftware game. I really hope they can clean that up in a patch bc that is a YIKES from me
Great video and thank you for all the hard work Tom!
Happy Infinite Day Spartans and go stomp the Banished!
Was not sure if I should play the game on my One X but watching your comparison I‘ll give it a go :-)
I thought i was going crazy when i couldnt get 60fps on quality sereis s as was shown, thanks for talking about it
I was hoping for alittle more from The Series S for this release.. 😔
It's not the consoles fault imo its 343 they have not really focussed on the Series S too much. Other first party games have had higher resolutions and framerate. Halo should have been the same.
Xbox one can run it, but the frame rate is crap. I wish it favored frame rates more than details.
Will be picking up a series x probably during boxing day, but tbh, I was so shocked when trying this on my Xbox One X.. It looks incredible. It really is insane what these teams can do with the dated tech.
I knew it was a good idea to keep my old Xbox one x. Can't wait to play this in performance mode
That Series S quality mode is just... embarrassing. It looks so similar to the performance mode, is massively upstaged by the One X, and still holds on to the jittery 30fps. It makes me worried that the Series S may hold back the X or any future upgrades much later in this generation. That said, I'm very impressed by what they did with the Xbox One systems, especially the X. Having a decent resolution 60fps experience on all but the 2013 model is really nice, and the visuals on Xbox One are great for the system in general.
How would it hold back XSX when it's literally the same tech except for a downscaled gpu?
There has to be something wrong with the Series S version right now. Something must be draining the performance in a huge way. 343 must be still trying to figure out what's holding it back. Once it get fixed it should run 1080p and 60 frames no problem, like multiplayer.
@@vandammage1747 Because a last-gen system is doing better than this current-gen system.
@@johnjoehoran6285 It should be dynamic 1440p 60fps easily on the Series S.
this gpu heavy game thats why one x quality look better. but in future cpu heavy game not even on one x. strong cpu not add too much series s now bcouse game still out mind of old cpus. if ı were them ı drop shadow quality on series s and make texutres like close to one x. but series s try to use series x shadow lighitng effetcs etc that why texture and resılation hit. ı think they cant make shadows like xbox one on mode called quality. the ground quality is better on serie s. it look more blury bcouse of resolatioı not 4k. series s never called a 4k machine already it should be look good on 1080p tv or monitor. quality mode should give 1080p 30 and peformacne give 1080p 60 or 120fps.
Looks like I'll be playing this on my Xbox One seeing as how I get 20 fps with a 1700x and a 390! Thanks guys!
R9 390? It should be getting a little more than 20 fps
@@DeathPerMinute AMD stopped driver updates on 390 cards, so GPU utilization ends up only being like 15% on newer games
@@fabianhernandez1734 ah well that explains it, I seen a couple vids of people installing modded drivers to increase performance
@@DeathPerMinute Yeah the NimeZ drivers. Tech Yes City did a video about it recently.
you need to use dynamic res thing on. it should be on pc. deost metter what pc.
Great analysis! It begs the question, would it be better to play via the cloud on Xbox One/One X?
One X version is better than the Series S one. It has has small drops of framerate but a much higher resolution.
Probably not the One X, it runs well enough that I don't think the Series X upgrade is worth streaming for, but depending on how low latency it ends up feeling that seems like a very viable option for the 2013 model.
Thank you kindly DF.
It's no surprise It runs well on the X, they've been developing this game for that hardware for 6 years. I imagine the Series S will get a patch to bring the res up to 1440 in the future, the console is certainly capable of it.
I hope so. Seems series s owners got screwed. They also took away 120hz on series s at the last second. Prob because Microsoft wants people tk buy the x
No. It has worst memory bandwidth
So am sure it will be 1080p 60fps
I don't know... as a longtime fan of the series where they always pulled a lot graphically, I'm a little disappointed, especially with the Series S I'm playing, I feel a weird blur on the screen every time and the 30fps mode is very stuttering
Let this be the last AAA to be made ‘with the base xb1 in mind’.
That said it’s a helluva send off for xb1 and one x. A 60hz mode with those jaguar cpus in an open world game is a modern miracle
AAA?
What i noticed when starting up the campaign on a series X was that the first cut scenes graphics resolution was very low when you actually start playing the quality goes noticably up.
I don't get how the resolution can be so much higher on the 1X compared to the SS in quality mode.
In it's current state what's even the point of the quality mode on Series S if they are both 1080p. Something really not right here. I hope they have a resolution patch very soon to 1440p 60fps on performance mode.
@@AscensionINC-zi1jz Might be bc of the future RT patch for SS and SX, not sure, the review code had SS running in Quality at 60fps(almost perfect) and Performance at 120FPS(not so well).
As simple as 6TF vs 4TF.
I'm sure its nerfed on purpose. We all have seen that its capable of 120fps.
The fact that the actual full campaign is not available on disc is ridiculous. People are paying £60 for a case with a disc that has incomplete content. Can't be patched either. You take that disc onto any offline xbox you can't play the full campaign. Game preservation according to Mr Spencer lol. The actual physical release is next year when they put all the content on the disc.
Could you drop a link or something about that? There’s a small chance I would buy the game on disc at a later date since I don’t plan to play single player until everything is added and the graphics issues are fixed, but I’m curious on how the disc doesn’t have the full campaign as you are saying?
And it's Microsoft lol the biggest company in the world and stuff like this happen thank you I was gonna buy the disk version
Provide proof or a link?
@@MyNamelsNotJohn the full game with coop campaign, forge, fire fight and all the maps won't be on a disc until next year Christmas time when there is a halo infinite ultimate edition out. Digital foundry have confirmed the full game is not on disc. I have friends who bought the disc and confirmed this. Multiple posts on twitter also confirm this. Buy the disc for yourself and try it if you don't believe me.
@@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137 Honestly grab it on game pass. You're just paying for a case and CD lol
It just amazes me how well this plays on the series X there’s times I forget I’m playing this on the series X compared to my PC and I run it on 1440p 144hz on pc
Loving Halo Infinite on my Series S! Beautiful game and one of favorite Halo games in recent years!
Plays beautifully on my series s on performance mode. Couldnt ask for more for the price!
It looks so damn blurry the resolution feels like I'm playing on a 360
It should be targeting 1440P 60, and dynamic 1080p 120 on the series S. The console is more than capable at sub4k with the right optimization, devs just don't want to put in the extra effort. I'm afraid MS will kill this console, but they've probably already made their money back plus some with everyone mindlessly buying their super overpriced proprietary expansion drives.
@Airmanareiks Elaborate? It makes perfect sense, the series s is and has been advertised for 1440p up to 120fps since release.
@@Jack-yt1fu He is just triggered
@@Jack-yt1fu The series s is selling too well for microsoft to kill the console
I didn't mean literally, I mean kill the entire concept of the console. It's looking like the Series s days of next gen 1440p up to 120 are over, now it's just a small pretty looking Xbox one.
Really disappointed with the work 343i put on the Series S. I was expecting, at minimum, 1440p/30fps (quality mode).
Me too and this is a Xbox exclusivity
Why would you want to play a game in 30fps
@@i-am-mercurial playing the campaign in 30 fps don't bother me but even I don't accept it because there are games that's can run easily 1440p 60fps
@@gman5787 You're right. Games like Far Cry 6 and Resident Evil Village.
@@RomildoAugusto95 and résident evil with rtx, vanguard, Valhalla, bf2042,.... There are just lazy to optimize their games and focusing only in one console
Series X-version is really good. Finally they got the Halo CE-feeling back!
But please fix the stuttering in movie sequences.
They really need to let other soldiers drive vehicles though. Even if it is a next gen only patch. It's just weird as i am so used to it and i keep getting in the passenger seat to see how the drive lol. They handled vehicles pretty well via AI drivers in Halo 5.
@@DEVILTAZ35 Guess it is a problem with open World, how could they know where I want to go? And I am not a fan of putting markers everywhere I want my soldiers to go, like a strategy game. Stay here, go there...
Is the VRR on the Series X in 120fps still not working as shown from the last analysis video?
Would love to know how much the FOV slider affects performance and image quality (if at all)?
@@rockapartie Thank you. I wonder if these tests were done with default FOV, or if they went to max of Series X (It looks a bit like it's on 120 FOV)
@@rockapartie on mcc on pc steam version it runs better the higher fov weird ass hell
@@anthonyconstanti9173 yeah they should keep it att 90-105 were pros keep it
What the hell are people smoking in these comments saying the Xbox One version is acceptable when Sony can push 30fps open world games like Ghost of Tsushima or Horizon that look and run way better on base PS4 than Halo Infinite on the XOne. This is a poor showing for the biggest AAA game for Xbox. Also the load times on Series consoles is still waaay too slow, when you compare the open world loading of something like Spider Man or Ghost of Tsushima on PS5 that reaches sub 2 seconds load times, i don't know, people are being way too forgiving imo.
@Transistor Jump Yeah i know, but even compared to other open world 3rd party games like FC4 or FC5, RDR2, Metro Exodus or even Rage 2 it does not look that good.