Here's how much I spent to go NA-T (lexus sc300 nat)
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2023
- There are many ways to go NA-T and In this video I go over what I believe is one of the most reliable ways to boost your lexus sc300.
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Thanks for all the good info. I’m finally starting on a 92 sc300 that belonged to my late son. He passed shortly after his 18th birthday in 2020. I want to build this in his honor and keep it forever.
Rest in peace🙏 god bless. I’m sure he’ll love it
that’s so awesome, your son would be ecstatic to hear that. nothing but luck to you!
I'm sorry for your loss. Do it for his honor brother, that is the best you can do. 🙏🙏🙏
I did this with a $200 junkyard n/a 2J. I put new rings and bearings in it. Honed the block, 3 angle valve job and new calve seals. $70 bucks GTE gasket kit with new oil pump and and engine seals.
Turbo exhaust manifold, cx racing front facing manifold. $250. Ebay downpipe pipe.$60 Lexus LS400 throttle body. Junkyrd $30. Made a 1/2 aluminum plate to mount the throttle body to the intake. $10 bucks eBay.
I used the stock injector block. And 450cc Mazda rx7 injectors. $30 junkyard. Friend flow tested them for me. All were good and even. Used AEM Wastegate for $130 bucks. Mitsubishi turbo stock blow off valve. $10 junkyard.
$200 eBay turbo, before buying a borg warner s366 model. So i would know if i liked how it built boost. No need to pay big money on a turbo if you don't like what rpm it builds boost.
Junkyard $150 W58 trans. Ebay clutch n flywheel kit. $400
Ebay intercooler piping kit. $100
93 Turbo Supra intercooler. $30 junkyard.
Used Megasquirt 2 stand alone. Cost $450 bucks at the time. I had that for 10 years.
Bought a trigger wheel and mounted it to the harmonic balancer. $100 bucks.
Got a simple crank sensor and made a bracket to mount that up. 6cyl dodge caravan coil pack. $25. Late 80's early 90's, 6cyl Ford ranger ignitor. $25.
I dont think i spent more than 2k. That's not including the Megasquirt2 i already had. Now this was 6-7 years ago also.
Car stull runs good. I dont do any hard pulls until 3rd and 4th gears. Highway pulls for sure. 15psi on the wastegate.
The 74 260z is in storage now. I will break it out this spring so my daughter and i can cruise in it. 👍🏾
I greatly appreciate videos like this. I’m aiming for 450-550hp with a list of things needed and about how much, and it’s looking like $14k total. As you mentioned, fast, reliable is not cheap. I’ll be saving for a few years to get this done.
Thank you! You’ll never regret doing it right the first time.
What does your parts list look like?
@@vincentpicciano5615 not putting everything in here as time changes ideas. But meat and potatoes are:
Internals, fuel, turbo, upgraded head components, upgraded cooling, upgraded tranny/shaft/axle.
I used factory twin turbos and a aristo ecu for my nat. No idea what power it makes but its alot of fun
It fit ? I heard people say its not worth it but why? I have sc300 needs SOMTHING for cheap lol
@javiermagallanes1469 it depends what your goal is. If you want big power then its not worth it but if you want something fun you can daily then hell yea its worth it.
i dont care im currently facing an issue with my overdrive i have high rpm i have a supra ecu to swap but once its in cant i just swap the supra parts in? i was looking for people who done it and they all say its not worth the money and it wont fit … But for me each of those parts are litterally 100-150 each on offerup what did you do ? 🤣🤣
@@lalito._.01 anything over 300hp is perfect my is300 was amazing with that hp
@javiermagallanes1469 i pretty much did the same thing. I just bought a bunch of cheap supra parts on offer up. There's a channel on UA-cam called supra v world that makes really good videos explaining the whole process. He even makes parts to convert your ge into a gte.
back 20 years ago when I first got my MKIV Supra I did an NA-T conversion with a similar design as yours and kept burning the intake coupler for the TB and was annoying because it was sitting right above the hot side of the turbo. it came with auxiliary injectors and was very temperamental. I 'm sure there are more options now than back then but I hated the distributor and the wires and eventually blew up my motor. I ended up getting forged TT pistons and rods and got a TT head in 2008 and am much happier with the setup.
Very informative & honest... Respect
Thank you!
Thanks for the break down, as you mentioned the trans is a concern when push past 400-450 WHP. not only that but the rear stock diff can't handle that much either.
I like the way you choose. Cheap and reliable but it won't be fast.
streets needed this one Ed, salute
Thank you! I’m working on a few more informative videos like this.
havent seen him post in for ever glad hes still here
Still here! Sorry for the delay, Thank you!
I love this set up. Keep up the good work brotha! 😊👍
Thank you!
Oh shitttt I was just watching the old turbo videos to decide which one I want and he drops a new one after a long hiatus!
😂😂😂 this one was long over due, I’m getting ready to drop another video going over 5 turbo kits you can buy for the sc300.
@@Edward3jr Awesome! I loved that you're willing to explore the W58 compatible/cheaper options
good knowledge in your videos. subscribed!
Lots of hate for the W58 but you've proved it'll hold up when sensible about its limitations.
Thanks for sharing the info, I just picked up a 2jz-ge vvti to put in my Pickup with a W56, trying to build a fun DD 300ish wheel, so I'm fine with the limitations of the rods and transmission. Coupled with 5.29 gears, it'll still party 🎉
That’s going to be one fun pick up when you’re done!
Another great video man. Bring this one to Toyos and Coffee this Sunday!
Thank you! Sadly I’ll be in Utah this Sunday 😢
Great Job Detailing Your Story!!!!!!!
Thank you!
Good video. Still trying to save to go NA-t on my 95 sc300. Looks like I could end up spending $5700 without any labor or tuning. Appreciate your info
Badass video thanks for the info!!
Thank you!
I've spoke to numerous people and seen builds by reputable shops even using the W58 at over 500 and some over 600whp! They are still intact and doing great. One guy I spoke to made 450whp for 30k HARD miles before his W58 finally let go. So sometimes it's the luck of the draw with how it was treated before your ownership. But with that info I'll be doing a small maintenance refresh on my NA-T SC300, switching to E85 and maxing out my turbo on my kill setting (or close to it). It's just a T60 Garrett Hi-fi turbo. Should put me around 500whp. A major role in longevity on the W58 is how the torque ramp is tuned in, tire grip, and how you drive it. I won't be doing digs or first gear pulls, and limiting 2nd gear pulls as well just to be safe. I have seen people blow them up making 3-400whp ofcourse, but I've seen the same with R154's. Seeing the many other people I've talked to make 500+ with no issues makes me confident with pushing it past what I currently make (416whp/448wtq on pump 93 with 7k miles since I had it tuned)!!! Great video!
Anyone making more than 400 with a w58 is on borrowed time or absolutely babies the trans and is shifting a potential grenade
I have a ‘92 sc300 stock 5 speed over here in norcal just put a new clutch in just tryna keep her clean
@daryl2jz - Dreaming about this for my 2004 IS300! Owned her since 2020, mine is Auto and well since It will be a while before I turbo her. I just have cold air and catless headers and straight exhaust except 1 cat left in the y pipe. Slowly building my dream car thought! You deliver inspiration and I cant wait to see you swap out the trans and deliver more power! Cheers from Canada.
Stay with it, you won’t regret it
GOAT status 🐐
Thank you!
i just swapped a brand new r154 into my vvti sc3, really want to swap in a 1jzgte but vids like this make me want to do a cheap na-t (keeping it under ~350 cause of the skinny rods :))
You won’t regret it
Just picked up a spare VVTI 2J, gonna NA-T it!
The sc community goat
Thank you!
@2:17. Bro the beep🤣 Just change the battery my brother!!🙏💀
you should do a video on what you should do to the engine before adding boost
I thought about this, almost went over it in this video, but opted to instead focus on just the turbo kit part of this.
@@Edward3jr i think a separate video would allow you to be more in depth with it
@@BigFatCaulk do basic "refresher" maintenance. Thats the whole base of the 2jz fanaticism. There are only a hand full of blocks on the planet that you can be competitive on without going into the block and throwing most of it away or having a machinist involved.
AS long as the block was not abused you are probably good to go, you wouldn't even get close on most other blocks
@@jrich436That's correct! NEVER MESS WITH THE "MAGIC" inside if it's not needed!
Hey man I love your videos, I'm rebuilding the interior of my 97 sc400 and am looking for a shift slide cover for the automatic. I know you have done swaps, could I maybe buy one off of you if you still have it?
I’ll check and see if I have one
Do you have a list of the parts needed to turbo a sc? I see lots of ppl saying you don’t have to do this but they do extra stuff. I just want the minimum and will go from there . Thanks!
Nice
I heard you mention you used Freed engineering to tune the car. Are you a Maryland resident? I live north of Baltimore city now but im born and raised in PG county. I went to school with Ben
What is your opinion on cheap 2JZGE intakes?
Had a 93 sc300, planned on running a cxracing kit and had everything planned out, was driving the car to work and the pos overheated and killed the motor, lost all hope on the project and scrapped it, now that i have more time on my hands I wanted to try again but the prices on these cars now are through the roof
Damn, usually when they over heat it’s just a head gasket job, perfect Time to upgrade the head gasket and head studs while you’re at it. Take your time shopping around, you’ll find the right one.
I'm looking to sell my OEM W58 92 SC300 making 416whp/448wtq on pump 93. LMK if you'd be interested! Have it listed for $12k
I will be buying a chaser and trubo it, idk if i should buy a 1g fe or 1jz ge cuz that be my first project and i cant spend a lot of money
HELP!! I just bought a 1993 Lexus sc300 manual transmission with 35k miles. The car drove fine for a few hours but after letting it sit after turning it off and trying to start it back on it immediately turns off even if I give it gas.
After a few tries of turning it back on after it keeps dying it manages to stay on.
Any idea what this could be?
Alternator was replaced already.
It does not stall once it turns on and running nor does it hiccup or surge.
Could it be that fuel pump isn’t receiving the 12volts ?
I have a 93 SC300 Factory Manual and I've been following your channel since I got it the beginning of the year. So far, my worst mistake may be me buying a Supra TT Automatic Torsen differential. The diff needs a full refresh (take all the rust off, paint it, and reseal it). I don't plan to do a NA-T until I learn how to drive the stick shift and that Torsen diff can't handle too much power either.
In your case, if you decide to push the tune and increase the PSI, besides the W58, wouldn't the differential need to be upgraded? Maybe to a 1.5 way LSD for street use?
This is a great question, one of the very mods I did to this sc300 was install the kaaz lsd. In my case the w58 is the only thing holding me back, and again, it’s mostly on me just playing it safe. I would like to turn up the boost and make videos showing how strong or how weak the w58 trans is. But I’ll probably save that for when I have a back up trans on stand by ready to go. ua-cam.com/video/hIbmlY86zDU/v-deo.html
@@Edward3jr Oh yea, I forgot you did that video. I'm pretty sure I watched all your SC videos!
@@Edward3jr do it! As long as you don't to digs or alot of 1st gear pulls she should handle 450whp for a long time.
My son is looking to turbo his sc, i told him to piece together a setup. Its probably going to come out the same price. Depending on who u buy. Right now hes sourcing a transmission, going to go with a cd009. All in all its going to be some $$$ especially since he wants reliable and fast which is how my setup is. We wont discuss how much im in and mine is not even running yet. 😳😳
Lol I hear you on that! Reliable and fast is not up for discussion when it comes to price 😂
W Father
@Alex-vz2jx haha thanks , I honestly just give advise, he pays for his own habit 😅. My son has a good advantage though since he works now at the lexus dealership. So maybe he can luck up and score some hard to find stuff. Like random black interior 🤣
Have you ever considered the battery in trunk mod? It seems like you don’t really need it because you have space, but I’m just curious
I relocated the battery in my other sc300. In my opinion, as long as you have room in the engine bay, I recommend keeping the battery in the stock location.
Hey Ed! Just curious, where did you run your catch can? Most people run them on the left where the charcoal canister was, but looks like you went on the right near the steering shaft area?
Initially I ran it to the left in the exact same spot, but later removed it for now. I have it in this location in my other sc though
Did you do all the work yourself?
for anyone seeing this when you go past 350hp you better have money. price of things for theses 2jz are getting crazy. i"m around 550hp and its been a lot of money to get there but dame i love my car lol
This is spot on, I think starting off cheap will only cost you more money in the long run. I appreciate you for chiming in on this
Ehh if you already have jz it's pretty cheap here. Especially if you just go with GTE rods. In my country it's around 4500e from stock vvti GE to 500+hp.
@@Cplink420 Yeah I'm not sure where hes coming from with this. Tuning has NEVER been cheaper. Back when I started a turbo was over 1k alone. We had no ecu control. We were cavemen. Now all the work is done for you and everything is in kits with 100s of videos of other people doing it
That's why I bought mine already done for $12k 😉 after this next go round of refreshing/upgrading I'll be in it about $16k (including wheels). If I put the wheels that came on it back on, and sold my other ones I'd only be in it about $14,500. Not bad for an OEM 5 speed SC300 that makes 416whp on pump 93!
This is a dope setup. How much power do you think you can make on distributor? I want to go for 600hp on my 92 sc300 so im thinking coilpack conversion/ vvti head lol
This is a great question, I’m not sure what the max power is on stock dizzy. Evan shank made over 500 whp on his dizzy before he started running into ignition issues. ua-cam.com/video/PhOckwgH0tA/v-deo.html
i started seeing ignition brake up around 450hp so i converted to 2jzgte non-vvti igniter and used 2jzge vvti wasted spark coils and use the dizzy for timing crank and cam signal now im around 550hp and can go more
@@TheHighroller88 Get the Supra VWorld cam/crank sensor conversion, even using the 7m unit we never felt safe going higher than you are now. Being able to change cams and tune like a GTE was GREAT and I sleep sound at night ;)
I'm currently making 416whp/448wtq on pump 93 and 16-17psi with a dizzy on my NA-T. Plan to do a little maintenance/upgrades, install flex fuel sensor, and max out my small Garrett T60 on E85 and the dizzy in the next couple weeks. Should put me around 500whp on E85 kill mode. As he mentioned Evan's video is a good visualization of what to expect. With E85 around 500whp seems to be the safe limit on a dizzy combined with a solid ECU. Btw Evan also has a W58 and is making over 500whp with it still intact.
Yo, where have you been?
Hey I just recently bought myself a 01 IS300!!! It has 207k mile and everything is stock. Recently I was thinking of like putting in GTE internals, then the turbo stuff, and whatever ecu and wiring’s I’d need to do. This will be my Daily too, so I would only do a small amount of boost, What do you think?
You don’t need to put gte internals if you’re planning to run a small amount of boost. Those motors are good for 350ish (or more depending on tune)
@@Edward3jr oh ok great!!! I’d prolly do like 225-230, I don’t want to do that much fr fr lol
the Aem V2 that i see on marketplace they all say there for a certain car does that matter or is it just the base map they have
Here you go, jayracing.com/mobile/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=6747
I'm looking online presently for an infinity series AEM ECU. It appears AEM doesn't make ECUs anymore. Am I missing something? Is there an alternative?
It’s possible that they no longer make them anymore and You might have to search Facebook market place.
Hi can you upgrade the n/a tranie so you can get more out of it...
Yes, there are stronger transmission you can upgrade to. R154 and cd009 are a few popular examples.
Is it still running the Supra headers? Just wondering how it runs without a heat shield
Once I installed the turbo Kit the Supra headers were removed so that the turbo manifold could be installed. I don’t have a heat shield.
Could you do this same setup on a 1jzge ?
Basically the same, would need a turbo manifold
Do u have to change transmission? After the turbo kit??
Not at all
What max boost can u run for ge non vvti stock bottom end !? 93 octan.
It all depends on the tune… some guys have reliably made over 600whp on stock bottom end
Makes me want to buy a is300 and boost it 😅😅😅
did you do something to the compression ratio?
No , compression ratio should be stock
A CD09 Transmission Swap?
Nope not in this one, this still has the w58
Did you have to drill in oil squerters in the lower block?
Nope, not necessary
@@Edward3jr ok im lost :P
man i just made a whole write up on my build and yt deleted it
Damn, I’m sorry to hear about that. That can be annoying having yt delete your work like that
Ed. What fuel lines need to be changed for e85?
This car is not on e85 yet, but the other Lexus is. That has a PHR triple fp hanger, but I’m only using 2 Walbro 450 pumps. As far as fuel lines I ran a new ss ptfe feed line, and used the oem feed line as my return using ptfe where needed.
Im happy to report no issues with this set up so far.
@@Edward3jroh that’s very smart. So all rubber needs to be swapped to ptfe then? Thank you
Wat about the sc400 1uz
Work in progress, coming soon
Change your fire alarm battery bro! Please ahah
Done😎
I’m 20k deep and it’s still on jack stands and I sold all the exterior parts and some interior 04 is300 lol
I’ve been there too with the 600hp sc300. It took me 3-4 years to get it running and it still needs work 😂😂😂
@@Edward3jr fast and reliable 😂👌🏿🔥
@@itsreallytheo equals not cheap😂😂😂
20k??? Billet block? Turbo made from vibranium?
@@804MRMAN nah just some old school machining and authentic parts when you prefer quality or quantity for an na-t build it adds up along with manual swapping too and engine management and wiring
It was cheap for me until I got to the ecu piggy back
It’s not all that cheap to be honest
@@Edward3jr I went all rev 9 shit until I went for the ecu that's why lol
Why do they call it Na-T?
Not really sure, my guess is Na= naturally aspirated T= turbo. 🤷🏾♂️
5200 Dollars 👍
8:00
Five to Six thousand? At that point, you can just buy another SC300!!
I agree, and with a little more on top, you can take a risk and buy one already boosted.
Remember you can always build one cheaper, making it reliable is key!
5000 dollars is cheap for cars 😂
Things add up pretty quickly when you’re in there 😏
2JZ no shit.