It would be cool if 2 people wearing Apple Vision Pro sitting next to each other could share their screen together/ someone shows the other one a window/ app and scroll it simultaneously.
this is the NUMBER ONE feature that they have to make happen. This and dual screens from a mac. But being together in the same environment is gonna be the killer feature.
I am seeing how this device could change people’s productivity in massive ways. Making work fun… insane! All the different ways you can bring your work all around the house/office: insane!
I’ve watched dozens of videos on Vision Pro but no reviewer has ever answered these questions: 1. How far away can you get from windows before they reset or error out? For example, Can i leave a window in my bathroom permanently and go outside and mow the lawn or walk down the street, drive away etc, etc and come back in and it’s still there? How big is the area it can map? 2. Is there some kind of save state for your windows so you don’t have to set everything up over and over?
1: The distance is impressive, at the moment they do stay if you walk away about 2 blocks, so if you walk outside and come back they will be in place. 2: The windows do stay but not after restart. Currently the VP does not support that feature, but hopefully apple will improve these features.
It can actually detect if you’re in different buildings too. You can open a bunch of windows at home, go to work, open windows there, and as you travel between the two places it’ll keep the windows perfectly in place and show the correct ones.
Watch Luke Miani’s video when he wore it for 24 hours and left the windows open at home while he drove around town, when he came back the windows were still there. It was impressive.
I guess you could go around the Earth and back. If i had to program it, it would have limit of objects. Sensor data have constant volume and are quite unique, so total space required to store it would be very easy to calculate. The only warning you would get would be when you will reach limit of objects, when sensor doesn't work or when something glitch and already remembered object will be matched to different place because of data similarity.
As mentioned: Lukes 24h video shows it very well. Coming back home, all in place where you left them. I think its different if batterie ends a session but he organized batterie life for 24 with his powerfull energy bricks.
As you headed to the bathroom, I got an advert, which gave me a glimpse of the future. Just as I stand up to go the bathroom in 10 years’ time, I open my zipper and all of a sudden my entire field of view is blocked by a sponsored ad that can’t be dismissed and I end up with very wet shoes…
In 10 years time we’ll be having to purchase virtual dog food for our virtual dog. Imagine Pokemon Go on this thing. 2016 all over again 😅. I guess NFT’s will have a comeback when you have to stay at a virtual hotel.
Spatial computing = having to own/buy and USE another $2500 mac to actually compute in your $3500 spatial computer So why can’t it run mac apps or have a desktop mode/app? It even has a M2 mac chip. So is it a new computing platform or just a mac accessory for some widgets and ipad apps around you?
The Vision Pro can do just fine on its own, there are 2 chips inside, one is the R1 if I’m not mistaken by the name and m2 chip so the R1 do the special computing and the m2 is free to do everything else like running apps graphics and such
3:21 I like how with the spatial audio, you can clearly hear that his voice goes from the ambient reverb of his office to the lack of reverb from being "outside". That was cool.
Think about it, people in NY City studio apartments, RVs, tiny homes, or boats can all have 100”+ Tvs and workstations essentially without eating up any space. This is big.
I went back to a 27"monitor from 32" for photo editing because i found too much eye movement left me with strain. I cannot imagine working 24 7 with such constant information feed, and the bouncy movement could become annoying. Its nice to see progress bit it still feels a bit like tech looking for a home.
Great video Max. This is the first review of the Vision Pro that actually made me want it. Love the screen capture in the video. That helps a lot. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for showing what the AVP really is. I am tired of watching those useless videos comparing it with the Meta Quest. It's like comparing a laptop with a video game console, makes no sense.
I've also missed the ability to use the Vision Pro's pointing methods when interacting with the virtual monitor, but I expect that ability will come some day. The trick will be to have MacOS receive the "pointer" location and THEN to have the apps highlight the selected field. Right now MacOS apps don't have to highlight a field when the mouse pointer hovers over them. But Apple could add that functionality to individual MacOS apps along with the ability to receive the location updates. So, I wouldn't be surprised to see the VP's pointer appear on the virtual monitor some time in the future. For a NEW product, this device is even MORE useful than I expected, and like the iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch before it, we'll only see it get better over time as more software becomes integrated.
I have watched a lot of videos on the Vision Pro, including reviews, and what strikes me is that the reviewers always say "you CAN do that...", "you CAN do this..." but it never looks like it would be more convenient to actually do it with this device compared to a regular desktop computer. And same here, the title of the video is "I WORKED 8 hours", but it does not feel at all like the reviewer did 8 hours of actual work with the Vision Pro. So far it looks like a very impressive and very nice toy, but absolutely not something that you want to use for 8 hours to work (and the reviewer seems actually very relieved when he takes it off at the end of the video).
im all for this being main stream for a few reasons 1. I can do work outside. 2. I can stop using a mouse and keyboard like normal which gets my arms moving. It would also make going out more bearable. I think I will get into this in the next few generations. This still has a lot of issues that need to be fixed such as the headband over the top of the head, the video quality and jumpyness and actual glass on the outside instead of plastic.
Thanks, that was really cool. I really liked seeing how the different environments become a place to work in and an environment to help remove destructions for you - rather than a thing in themselves (I’d never really thought of them like desktop images before - but taken to the next level of course).
The only concern from me is about your eyes focal length. Some of your eyes muscles might not been used for hours as you just look at something very near for long time.
To accomodate for convergence (basically when your eyes go slightly cross eyed when looking at close up stuff) you'd have to physically move the screens or lenses or change the focal point electronically. Meta has prototypes for both these solutions, I think they're like 4 or 5 years old now.
Please can any single person create the very first video that describes what it is like to use the Apple Vision Pro as a stand alone productivity device? 1. Not everyone is a video editor. Work does not revolve around video editing. You can be productive without editing a video. 2. Not everyone has $8'000 to blow on an Apple Mac AND an Apple Vision Pro. For some people, it is one or the other. Therefore, I am desperate to get a feel for what it is like to pair the Apple Vision Pro with nothing but a Magic Keyboard. To type up documents in Microsoft Word. To design presentations on Microsoft Powerpoint. To practice them in Keynote. Maybe to edit photographs, even if only in lightroom. And to create computer programs using iPad and iPhone compilers in the app store (I am hoping and assuming that the developers have not all opted out).
two things that make no sense to me: 1. why did they even bother with the fancy single strap when the more traditional two band strap is way more comfortable. this could've at least been $200-300 cheaper just because of that probably. 2. this is billed as being able to replace your monitors. why is there not at least the option for dual monitors when connected to a mac? triple would be ideal and the ideal limit for most people but the fact that you can only have one screen and then what amounts to a bunch of ipad apps next to it just makes it feel more like a toy to me.
Thank you for the video; I really enjoyed it and look forward to an exciting future. I can see immense productivity gains stemming from one's ability to become laser-focused in their work. It will be interesting to hear if people experience any muscle, back, and neck pain after prolonged use of the device. In my personal experience, having worked in the engineering software field for over four decades, it was quite 'normal' to clock in 60 to 70 hours or more per week. Work consumed much of my time, and the concept of work-life balance wasn't prevalent then. Now, at 61 years of age, my early years spent on a computer have led to continued issues with my neck and back. Correct posture was never emphasised back then. 👏👏
Great point. For years I have had the need to be able to assign audio to hardware. Example: UA-cam to TV speakers and game to laptop speaker. Flexible audio assignment.
The last thing you said about grabbing the timeline and sliders is the only reason why I still edit on luma fusion. I love how quick the workflow is on that iPad app
I don’t think having 1 display is a limit of the M2 chip. I think it’s likely a limitation of the wireless connection. Remember that the macbook is rendering the display, the vision pro just has to rasterise it. And the fact you can have multiple vision pro windows means it is perfectly capable of rasterising multiple displays.
Quest 3 does that. So Apple decided to just NOT give you that option -_- . They literally sold that as a working machine, but not even beeing able to use multiple monitors... VR/XR is not ready... Hope AR will come back... Let's see what Valve does or I hope MS will come back with Hololens 3
Thank you very much for this video. It's very interesting. The way of working is very intriguing. We are entering a new era of productivity. I look forward to seeing it evolve in the right direction.
Actually really liked this video. I was wondering what the actual use case would be for the VP. Now I could see myself working from home (with a mac) using it like this.
Never swapped, never took off the headset. I plugged it in at my desk 3 separate times. Twice when it got to 20% batter and gave me a warning and once at 10%.
@@RobertJones-rd5wl if you're worried about radiation, radiation from electronics isn't really a problem. Radiation from actual microwaves, or the SUN are more problematic. I highly doubt you'll have to worry about microwaved brains.
@@RobertJones-rd5wlthe type of wifi you use for network connection is different with those that cook in microwave. They won’t cook your brain. But more research is needed to understand if there’s any side effects in long term. Fortunately so far it’s safer than drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes or even walking on the street.
As someone who found the Apple Airpod Max headphones annoyingly heavy, the sight of you wearing both the vision Pro and the Max headphones... Okay, I'd had a crappy day and I needed that laugh, thanks for that, but... no! Just no! It's not even about whether you are amongst those who have reported strain/headaches, we're all different, so everyone's experience is of course valid, it's the irritation factor, for me. If I had to wear it for work, for more than forty five minutes, I'd find a different job. I found it irritating wearing just the heavy Airpod Max for that long, so... Hopefully by the time Vision Pro gets to revision 3 or 4 it will be a lot better, considerably more useful, more durable, a lot lighter, affordable. Thumbs up to Apple for nailing the aesthetics and thanks for another thoughtful review.
4:11 woah now that’s productivity. Double the resolution through something like MicroLED and give it more power with a 2-3 nm architecture, this thing would be an insane workstation. Or even further in the future, a quantum computer would render things instantly and you could do literally anything on it.
great walk through. thanks for all the hard work that went in to this video. this is more a critique of vision pro screen recording than the quality of your production (top notch :) ) but i have to say that i felt a little nauseous at points watching the video playback. i’m wondering if using it would cause the same issue or if it’s just a side effect of screen recording being not very content consumption friendly when played back on youtube??
Imagine in future eye implant that makes your eyes into VR, AR device this could be game changer. With this eye you can track any location, make vr objects, monitors also could be used in military to spot enemy soldiers, drones...
i really like how the app remains where it is. This is another level of Pokemon Go. Imagine that the app can be seen by multiple people like a Yelp review in front of the restaurant - or a food menu with 3D image. Or even create a bike path or hiking direction. Can't wait for what will come in the future.
what about the eye fatigue and headache? Adverse effect on the eyes with so much of stimulation. Thanks for the amazing video. It was really insightful.
The only time I noticed fatigue was the first day I put it on for about an hour. I’ve only ever used a Quest to for probably an hour total so I don’t think my mind was ready to process the experience. I’ve worn it in 2 to 3 hour chunks recently For work and haven’t had any issues with fatigue since.
In VR and AR, your eyes are more relaxed than looking at your phone or reading a book since the lenses set the focal distance over 1 meter away. This is why short sighted people need to keep wearing their glasses in the headset. It is hard to wrap your head around since you can have an object that is 6 inches from your face in the VR environment but your eyes are actually relaxed like you are looking at something that is 1 meter away. Everything at all distances is always in focus in VR so your eyes never have to use the muscles to adjust focus.
*They should add swipe/glide typing on the AVP virtual keyboard. It will be much easier to implement than 10 finger typing. It will make typing so much faster and easier.*
I’m not so interested in a 24 hour challenge, but more so a review of spatial computing after several weeks +4 hour usage like you did here. Then a discussing of the pros, cons of spatial computing, does the hype wear off, or does it genuinely improve workflow/productivity
Thanks, this was a really nice and informative presentation of real word use cases and usability. Hopefully some of the shortcomings can be fixed. My take: 1) Audio stream mixed in from both MacBook and Vision Pro apps. 2) At least two virtual MacBook screens 3) Seamless macOS apps, just drag an app window out from your virtual desktop into the AR world and interact with it like a Visual Pro app. This could work if macOS apps could opt-in on Vision Pro support and be recompiled with it. (Obviously a lot of complexities involved under the hood to enable this, but probably doable). With 3 available on most apps, point 2 is maybe not needed. 4) Much larger field of view 5) Even sharper AR 6) Weight 7) Share window/app publicly or to group of users. If in group or it is public and you are in Vision Pro, close to the app’s placement, you all see it in the same place and can interact with it. (Bonus: maybe there will Vision Pro app server devices, to publish public Vision Pro apps, fixed to a certain surrounding 😂)
After using the Vision Pro for a week, it’s definitely the way of the future but a few things to note. 1) You can’t use it or even watch a movie in the dark. 2) i wouldn’t recommend walking around in it too much as it does bounce a bit and will probably not make you feel too well.
can upload a speedrun while editing? i miss this part on everyone's "working in Vision" videos. we want to see how the actual work is done through the device
There's a great review from another UA-camr, showing exactly that, editing, moving clips back and forth between time-frames, color correcting, etc, pretty much full editing... I think it was with DaVinci app for ipad and the whole thing was totally incredible. So, it's just a matter of programs and developers getting things to work for the Vision Pro. The most amazing thing of it all is that he was getting used to it within just a couple of hours of using it for the first time.
From my experience, Pass through quality is influenced by light. Indoors or low light and you’ll experience a lot of noise, but if you go outside or crank up the light, there’s a lot less noise so the quality looks better.
Thank you for this review. I wasn't sure if I could really use this for work or if just useful for play like the Quest 3. This looks like a promising first gen product.
I don’t know why more people don’t use Siri especially while driving. They’ve really improved her word recognition and she even does punctuation pretty well now so I usually don’t have to vocalize it. She’s not flawless but it’s plenty good for most situations and extremely helpful for hands free driving.
You getting used to the lower resolution, is literally what people what people with poor eyesight go through 🤣. I have so many friends who didn’t realize how poor their eyesight was until they wore spectacles for the first time.
It would be really cool if they would put a dongle inside the Battery so you can both connect accessories and have a practical use for the separate Battery with the next generation of Apple Vision.
- Take breaks and walk around to prevent discomfort while using the Vision Pro for extended periods. - Experiment with resizing and customizing your virtual display for optimal productivity and comfort. - Utilize the ability to switch between virtual and physical environments seamlessly to enhance workflow flexibility. - Utilize the feature to hide distractions and focus on specific tasks for better concentration. - Imagine future improvements for enhanced usability, such as gesture support and more hands-on controls. - Consider the spatial computing benefits and customization options of the Vision Pro compared to traditional multiple monitor setups. - Embrace the adaptability to lower resolution over time and make the most of the immersive experience offered by the Vision Pro. - Emphasize the comfort and lightweight design of the Vision Pro compared to other devices like the airpods Max. - Acknowledge the surprising endurance and positive user experience even after an 8-hour workday with the Vision Pro.
The Vision Pro will never be mainstream. While it may be a fun novelty in the short term, when people begin having serious eye problems and other health issues, this will be quickly abandoned by Apple. Over a period of months you'll realize what the consequences are of having a screen so close to your eyes. How much are your eyes worth? Everyone needs to decide for themselves if it's worth it.
Pretty nice video! You proved that the virtual worlds will be the future soon. I would like to know if screens are stable in places like traditional ones?
It may be just me, but people recording on the vision pro has created a surge in first-person-view videos. I have never seen Max walking around in his office, I have never seen what his environment was like. Something just clicked in my brain and I think first person videos are gonna be huge.
We noticed that when you're screen recording and you immerse yourself, your audio changes with it. Those are the little details apple has put into the VP!
Final Cut Pro is now on the iPad, so it shouldn't be long before Apple ports it to the Vision Pro. That's what I see a lot of people trying to run on it, and even as it is, it seems to work pretty well. There is a replacement speaker for the Vision Pro that includes a USB port, specifically for developers. I'm not sure what I need a bunch of displays all over the place for. I think I'll get similar functionality with just one screen and save a lot of money by just getting a new iPad.
One can always save money. But I used to share your type of logic when in-car GPS displays were just being introduced. (Yes, I go back a long way. grin) I felt I could just as easily get by using paper maps for directions and route planning in stead of purchasing a GPS gadget like "Tom Tom" or a "Garmin" - remember those? I was wrong because I didn't have any "in-dash" GPS automobile use experience.
This is just the beginning. In the future, we will have a single device, eliminating the need for an iPad, iPhone, laptop, local PC, Apple TV, or any monitor, navigation system, or media player, such as those for radio, video, and music, to watch movies. It's a long journey ahead, but that's the direction we're heading. I anticipate that the size and weight of this device will be significantly reduced. In the future, this device will be used to influence our brains to enhance work efficiency and psychological/emotional well-being. Everyone will be capable of performing any task, guided by vision or a similar device, i.e., a brain-connected chip. Thinking further ahead, we might not even need to travel for vacations. We will be able to enjoy our local surroundings with different visualizations and experiences. Education will undergo significant changes. All children will utilize a chip or device from an early age to enhance their learning. We are on the brink of extraordinary times.
So now that the Quest 3 has color passthrough, can connect to either macOS or Windows, use up to 5 displays for the computer, internal battery, and has the ability to grab controllers for games, is the Vision Pro worth the extra $3,000?
Im not sure about having Wi-Fi connected computer sitting on user’s forehead for long periods of time. What will it do to the brain? Or eyes? Will it be healthy?
What a great video. Actually seeing you guys do work in this device, and getting a behind-the-scenes peek! Awesome. I can’t afford VP yet (not broke but I do budget 😉) but I’m thinking as soon as I have budgeted enough for it I’ll pull the trigger…
The thing being standalone computer is not very useful to me. From productivity I guess the killer feature would be to act as multiple display setup for Mac something like 4x 40”. What would also be cool is a mode allowing selective passthrough for mouse and keyboard so you don’t lose track of where they are, while darkening everything else.
I was skeptical but went to store And did a demo And ordered one… This is amazing tech and true Ai, people are sleeping on this Apple tech I also bought more Apple stock
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Damn windows should make a vr
It would be cool if 2 people wearing Apple Vision Pro sitting next to each other could share their screen together/ someone shows the other one a window/ app and scroll it simultaneously.
that's genius Habibi
This feature will happen for sure!!
@@Omar-te6nm shokran ya basha
this is the NUMBER ONE feature that they have to make happen. This and dual screens from a mac. But being together in the same environment is gonna be the killer feature.
that will probably happen within the next gen or two
This is the first video that properly shows the "spatial computing" part, it is underrated
Putting in vote for the 24 hour video.
Luke already did 24h
@@Coresake I have no idea who 'Luke' is but I'd like to see Max do it.
Me too
Need to do something about those circles for the 24 hour version though.
I took 3500 and gave it to a humanitarian aid for gaza instead of apple. I will wait 5 more years for a better and cheaper version of it.
This is pretty amazing, and I like how the vision pro remembers the visuals as you move around the room from work to play areas.
I am seeing how this device could change people’s productivity in massive ways. Making work fun… insane! All the different ways you can bring your work all around the house/office: insane!
Wow I'm just imaging how your employer will be able to track every second of productivity SUPER FUN and GAF
I’ve watched dozens of videos on Vision Pro but no reviewer has ever answered these questions:
1. How far away can you get from windows before they reset or error out? For example, Can i leave a window in my bathroom permanently and go outside and mow the lawn or walk down the street, drive away etc, etc and come back in and it’s still there? How big is the area it can map?
2. Is there some kind of save state for your windows so you don’t have to set everything up over and over?
1: The distance is impressive, at the moment they do stay if you walk away about 2 blocks, so if you walk outside and come back they will be in place.
2: The windows do stay but not after restart. Currently the VP does not support that feature, but hopefully apple will improve these features.
It can actually detect if you’re in different buildings too. You can open a bunch of windows at home, go to work, open windows there, and as you travel between the two places it’ll keep the windows perfectly in place and show the correct ones.
Watch Luke Miani’s video when he wore it for 24 hours and left the windows open at home while he drove around town, when he came back the windows were still there. It was impressive.
I guess you could go around the Earth and back. If i had to program it, it would have limit of objects. Sensor data have constant volume and are quite unique, so total space required to store it would be very easy to calculate. The only warning you would get would be when you will reach limit of objects, when sensor doesn't work or when something glitch and already remembered object will be matched to different place because of data similarity.
As mentioned: Lukes 24h video shows it very well. Coming back home, all in place where you left them.
I think its different if batterie ends a session but he organized batterie life for 24 with his powerfull energy bricks.
woah, that environment staying feature is crazy
that's cool that there's sound in that virtual setting
As you headed to the bathroom, I got an advert, which gave me a glimpse of the future. Just as I stand up to go the bathroom in 10 years’ time, I open my zipper and all of a sudden my entire field of view is blocked by a sponsored ad that can’t be dismissed and I end up with very wet shoes…
In 10 years time we’ll be having to purchase virtual dog food for our virtual dog. Imagine Pokemon Go on this thing. 2016 all over again 😅. I guess NFT’s will have a comeback when you have to stay at a virtual hotel.
Spatial computing = having to own/buy and USE another $2500 mac to actually compute in your $3500 spatial computer
So why can’t it run mac apps or have a desktop mode/app? It even has a M2 mac chip.
So is it a new computing platform or just a mac accessory for some widgets and ipad apps around you?
Galaxy brain Apple thought it through.
The Vision Pro can do just fine on its own, there are 2 chips inside, one is the R1 if I’m not mistaken by the name and m2 chip so the R1 do the special computing and the m2 is free to do everything else like running apps graphics and such
It’s literally brand new. Apps will take time to develop genius.
@@YuvalC670 yet you need a mac to actually do any kind of work or even write an email with a physical keyboard
@@JuanFmTechfalse on so many levels. Do your research before making bold but false statements 😂
3:21 I like how with the spatial audio, you can clearly hear that his voice goes from the ambient reverb of his office to the lack of reverb from being "outside". That was cool.
Think about it, people in NY City studio apartments, RVs, tiny homes, or boats can all have 100”+ Tvs and workstations essentially without eating up any space. This is big.
For the moment, I can't see how this workflow can speed up my working process. ???
I went back to a 27"monitor from 32" for photo editing because i found too much eye movement left me with strain. I cannot imagine working 24 7 with such constant information feed, and the bouncy movement could become annoying. Its nice to see progress bit it still feels a bit like tech looking for a home.
Great video Max. This is the first review of the Vision Pro that actually made me want it. Love the screen capture in the video. That helps a lot. Keep up the good work.
That was beyond IMPRESSIVE ‼️‼️‼️
This is crazy, this basically unlocks the final step in tapping into peoples minds . Literally
Thank you for showing what the AVP really is. I am tired of watching those useless videos comparing it with the Meta Quest. It's like comparing a laptop with a video game console, makes no sense.
Tons of reviews around but this is one can make you decide to buy or not
And this is just one small aspect of it.. crazy
Yeah I was worried about how confortable would be, quality of the screen and getting dizzy so much Apple can do
I've also missed the ability to use the Vision Pro's pointing methods when interacting with the virtual monitor, but I expect that ability will come some day. The trick will be to have MacOS receive the "pointer" location and THEN to have the apps highlight the selected field. Right now MacOS apps don't have to highlight a field when the mouse pointer hovers over them. But Apple could add that functionality to individual MacOS apps along with the ability to receive the location updates.
So, I wouldn't be surprised to see the VP's pointer appear on the virtual monitor some time in the future. For a NEW product, this device is even MORE useful than I expected, and like the iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch before it, we'll only see it get better over time as more software becomes integrated.
I have watched a lot of videos on the Vision Pro, including reviews, and what strikes me is that the reviewers always say "you CAN do that...", "you CAN do this..." but it never looks like it would be more convenient to actually do it with this device compared to a regular desktop computer.
And same here, the title of the video is "I WORKED 8 hours", but it does not feel at all like the reviewer did 8 hours of actual work with the Vision Pro. So far it looks like a very impressive and very nice toy, but absolutely not something that you want to use for 8 hours to work (and the reviewer seems actually very relieved when he takes it off at the end of the video).
2100 be like: Error4938: u need to upgrade to vision pro max to unlock blinking
im all for this being main stream for a few reasons 1. I can do work outside. 2. I can stop using a mouse and keyboard like normal which gets my arms moving. It would also make going out more bearable. I think I will get into this in the next few generations. This still has a lot of issues that need to be fixed such as the headband over the top of the head, the video quality and jumpyness and actual glass on the outside instead of plastic.
Excellent demo! I’m officially sold on the Vision Pro 😅 Excited to get this especially for traveling.
Such a long time watching you guys and this is a first time we can see your whole office! Nice one!
More to come!
I totally agree - this is a great experience. I have to say, Apple pushed this tech to a point where is more than usable daily - so cool.
Great info. I'm about 90% sold on getting it. Going to demo it first.
Hope you enjoy it!
5:00 The set up is monumental! This thing is worth it!!!
Thanks, that was really cool.
I really liked seeing how the different environments become a place to work in and an environment to help remove destructions for you - rather than a thing in themselves (I’d never really thought of them like desktop images before - but taken to the next level of course).
The only concern from me is about your eyes focal length. Some of your eyes muscles might not been used for hours as you just look at something very near for long time.
To accomodate for convergence (basically when your eyes go slightly cross eyed when looking at close up stuff) you'd have to physically move the screens or lenses or change the focal point electronically. Meta has prototypes for both these solutions, I think they're like 4 or 5 years old now.
Please can any single person create the very first video that describes what it is like to use the Apple Vision Pro as a stand alone productivity device?
1. Not everyone is a video editor. Work does not revolve around video editing. You can be productive without editing a video.
2. Not everyone has $8'000 to blow on an Apple Mac AND an Apple Vision Pro. For some people, it is one or the other.
Therefore, I am desperate to get a feel for what it is like to pair the Apple Vision Pro with nothing but a Magic Keyboard. To type up documents in Microsoft Word. To design presentations on Microsoft Powerpoint. To practice them in Keynote. Maybe to edit photographs, even if only in lightroom. And to create computer programs using iPad and iPhone compilers in the app store (I am hoping and assuming that the developers have not all opted out).
Well said
Your question will be answered on our next video of the VP. Stay tuned!
two things that make no sense to me:
1. why did they even bother with the fancy single strap when the more traditional two band strap is way more comfortable. this could've at least been $200-300 cheaper just because of that probably.
2. this is billed as being able to replace your monitors. why is there not at least the option for dual monitors when connected to a mac? triple would be ideal and the ideal limit for most people but the fact that you can only have one screen and then what amounts to a bunch of ipad apps next to it just makes it feel more like a toy to me.
It's a first-generation product. Can you compare Quest 3 to the first Oculus?
What if we start calling it the AVpro and you could just say. I have my AVpro’s on right now.
All I care about is large virtual monitors for work. If Apple can deliver that in their non-pro Vision at a reasonable price, I am sold
This is exactly the video I wanted to see about this. I was curious how it would be to work in. Thanks for the help!
Thank you for the video; I really enjoyed it and look forward to an exciting future. I can see immense productivity gains stemming from one's ability to become laser-focused in their work. It will be interesting to hear if people experience any muscle, back, and neck pain after prolonged use of the device.
In my personal experience, having worked in the engineering software field for over four decades, it was quite 'normal' to clock in 60 to 70 hours or more per week. Work consumed much of my time, and the concept of work-life balance wasn't prevalent then. Now, at 61 years of age, my early years spent on a computer have led to continued issues with my neck and back. Correct posture was never emphasised back then. 👏👏
True, this will make productivity so much better as long as you don’t get distracted immersed in UA-cam, or Reddit memes or something…
Great video! Really enjoyed this. 😃
Thank you!
Great point. For years I have had the need to be able to assign audio to hardware. Example: UA-cam to TV speakers and game to laptop speaker. Flexible audio assignment.
Are you a mac user? In Windows this functionality is from at least windows 7, in Linux probably for longer.
Yes, Mac. I use windows and red hat for work but no need for multi audio at work. @@Sajgoniarz
Luke Miani says ‘8 hours? Hold my beer!’ 😂
Lol he even slept in the thing
So cool how the sound change when he gos into the virtual place 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
The last thing you said about grabbing the timeline and sliders is the only reason why I still edit on luma fusion. I love how quick the workflow is on that iPad app
I don’t think having 1 display is a limit of the M2 chip. I think it’s likely a limitation of the wireless connection.
Remember that the macbook is rendering the display, the vision pro just has to rasterise it. And the fact you can have multiple vision pro windows means it is perfectly capable of rasterising multiple displays.
Quest 3 does that. So Apple decided to just NOT give you that option -_- . They literally sold that as a working machine, but not even beeing able to use multiple monitors...
VR/XR is not ready... Hope AR will come back... Let's see what Valve does or I hope MS will come back with Hololens 3
Thank you very much for this video. It's very interesting. The way of working is very intriguing. We are entering a new era of productivity. I look forward to seeing it evolve in the right direction.
Actually really liked this video.
I was wondering what the actual use case would be for the VP.
Now I could see myself working from home (with a mac) using it like this.
You better be ready to get neck problems 😅
How many times did you have to change, charge or swap the battery pack during the 9 hours?
Never swapped, never took off the headset. I plugged it in at my desk 3 separate times. Twice when it got to 20% batter and gave me a warning and once at 10%.
To add a little more to it, I'm surprised by the battery life. I think they really underrated it to be safe.
@@RobertJones-rd5wl if you're worried about radiation, radiation from electronics isn't really a problem. Radiation from actual microwaves, or the SUN are more problematic. I highly doubt you'll have to worry about microwaved brains.
@@RobertJones-rd5wlthe type of wifi you use for network connection is different with those that cook in microwave. They won’t cook your brain. But more research is needed to understand if there’s any side effects in long term. Fortunately so far it’s safer than drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes or even walking on the street.
As someone who found the Apple Airpod Max headphones annoyingly heavy, the sight of you wearing both the vision Pro and the Max headphones... Okay, I'd had a crappy day and I needed that laugh, thanks for that, but... no! Just no! It's not even about whether you are amongst those who have reported strain/headaches, we're all different, so everyone's experience is of course valid, it's the irritation factor, for me.
If I had to wear it for work, for more than forty five minutes, I'd find a different job. I found it irritating wearing just the heavy Airpod Max for that long, so...
Hopefully by the time Vision Pro gets to revision 3 or 4 it will be a lot better, considerably more useful, more durable, a lot lighter, affordable. Thumbs up to Apple for nailing the aesthetics and thanks for another thoughtful review.
the next VP needs a Thunderbolt connector. also, visionOS has to be more macOS-like in order to be compared to a computer.
Suppose they could add a port to the battery pack?
@@joedog86 yes, or directly to the headset, because a TB4 connector would make replacement batteries more expensive than they already are.
This is the best review I’ve seen of this
If this is the QUALITY of tech they're releasing now, just imagine what they've got in pipeline already 🤯
Max comes through once again!
4:11 woah now that’s productivity. Double the resolution through something like MicroLED and give it more power with a 2-3 nm architecture, this thing would be an insane workstation. Or even further in the future, a quantum computer would render things instantly and you could do literally anything on it.
Shit is fire !!!! It’ll get better as Dey get people’s feedback everything is changing so fast for our benefits stay up guys !!!
We're getting closer to SAO Ordinal Scale. Imagine we'll see bunch of random people wander aimlessly in the street playing pokémon Go
great walk through. thanks for all the hard work that went in to this video.
this is more a critique of vision pro screen recording than the quality of your production (top notch :) ) but i have to say that i felt a little nauseous at points watching the video playback. i’m wondering if using it would cause the same issue or if it’s just a side effect of screen recording being not very content consumption friendly when played back on youtube??
Great video! Next time, try it outside! :)
Imagine in future eye implant that makes your eyes into VR, AR device this could be game changer. With this eye you can track any location, make vr objects, monitors also could be used in military to spot enemy soldiers, drones...
i really like how the app remains where it is. This is another level of Pokemon Go. Imagine that the app can be seen by multiple people like a Yelp review in front of the restaurant - or a food menu with 3D image. Or even create a bike path or hiking direction. Can't wait for what will come in the future.
Your video is scary. I'm convinced.
Especially the part that you can keep apps opened on certain parts of your office.
what about the eye fatigue and headache? Adverse effect on the eyes with so much of stimulation.
Thanks for the amazing video. It was really insightful.
I think that is the most important question to be asked. Eye fatigue would be the number one problem for vision pro, if it exists of course
The only time I noticed fatigue was the first day I put it on for about an hour. I’ve only ever used a Quest to for probably an hour total so I don’t think my mind was ready to process the experience. I’ve worn it in 2 to 3 hour chunks recently For work and haven’t had any issues with fatigue since.
@@B4UCE is the brightness of the environment adjustable? Some of those white themed apps were hella bright.
In VR and AR, your eyes are more relaxed than looking at your phone or reading a book since the lenses set the focal distance over 1 meter away. This is why short sighted people need to keep wearing their glasses in the headset. It is hard to wrap your head around since you can have an object that is 6 inches from your face in the VR environment but your eyes are actually relaxed like you are looking at something that is 1 meter away. Everything at all distances is always in focus in VR so your eyes never have to use the muscles to adjust focus.
7:20 People running across the office with tech toys on there face his hilarious 🤣🤣
*They should add swipe/glide typing on the AVP virtual keyboard. It will be much easier to implement than 10 finger typing. It will make typing so much faster and easier.*
Speech to text works so well why even bother with the virtual keyboard?
Yes, I naturally tried to do it but it didn't work. I'm guessing they will once they get the algorithm right for accuracy.
It does do well, but depending on your environment its not always possible or optimal to speak. @@phil631
I’m not so interested in a 24 hour challenge, but more so a review of spatial computing after several weeks +4 hour usage like you did here. Then a discussing of the pros, cons of spatial computing, does the hype wear off, or does it genuinely improve workflow/productivity
Thanks, this was a really nice and informative presentation of real word use cases and usability.
Hopefully some of the shortcomings can be fixed.
My take:
1) Audio stream mixed in from both MacBook and Vision Pro apps.
2) At least two virtual MacBook screens
3) Seamless macOS apps, just drag an app window out from your virtual desktop into the AR world and interact with it like a Visual Pro app. This could work if macOS apps could opt-in on Vision Pro support and be recompiled with it. (Obviously a lot of complexities involved under the hood to enable this, but probably doable). With 3 available on most apps, point 2 is maybe not needed.
4) Much larger field of view
5) Even sharper AR
6) Weight
7) Share window/app publicly or to group of users. If in group or it is public and you are in Vision Pro, close to the app’s placement, you all see it in the same place and can interact with it. (Bonus: maybe there will Vision Pro app server devices, to publish public Vision Pro apps, fixed to a certain surrounding 😂)
2 displat support is coming, it's there in beta 1.1
Sweet I'll look into it.
After using the Vision Pro for a week, it’s definitely the way of the future but a few things to note.
1) You can’t use it or even watch a movie in the dark.
2) i wouldn’t recommend walking around in it too much as it does bounce a bit and will probably not make you feel too well.
can upload a speedrun while editing? i miss this part on everyone's "working in Vision" videos. we want to see how the actual work is done through the device
5:46 - that open messages worked better than you realize! Opened it up over here too.. that’s spatial computing!
Imagine how messed up your face would be if you worked all day every day in that thing.
There's a great review from another UA-camr, showing exactly that, editing, moving clips back and forth between time-frames, color correcting, etc, pretty much full editing... I think it was with DaVinci app for ipad and the whole thing was totally incredible. So, it's just a matter of programs and developers getting things to work for the Vision Pro. The most amazing thing of it all is that he was getting used to it within just a couple of hours of using it for the first time.
Great episode! Fascinating to see your professional set up behind the camera. Great work!
From my experience, Pass through quality is influenced by light. Indoors or low light and you’ll experience a lot of noise, but if you go outside or crank up the light, there’s a lot less noise so the quality looks better.
Thank you for this review. I wasn't sure if I could really use this for work or if just useful for play like the Quest 3. This looks like a promising first gen product.
I don’t know why more people don’t use Siri especially while driving. They’ve really improved her word recognition and she even does punctuation pretty well now so I usually don’t have to vocalize it. She’s not flawless but it’s plenty good for most situations and extremely helpful for hands free driving.
Has hands down the best passthrough on the market for a headset. First complaint is the passthrough. Like bro...
You getting used to the lower resolution, is literally what people what people with poor eyesight go through 🤣. I have so many friends who didn’t realize how poor their eyesight was until they wore spectacles for the first time.
This seems really cool. Hopefully, it'll be more affordable for me in the next year to two, and I can buy a used one.
when you said " hey siri open notes " my home pod toggled x.x
Same here. My iPad, MacBook, HomePod mini… Yep I have too many Apple devices.
It would be really cool if they would put a dongle inside the Battery so you can both connect accessories and have a practical use for the separate Battery with the next generation of Apple Vision.
- Take breaks and walk around to prevent discomfort while using the Vision Pro for extended periods.
- Experiment with resizing and customizing your virtual display for optimal productivity and comfort.
- Utilize the ability to switch between virtual and physical environments seamlessly to enhance workflow flexibility.
- Utilize the feature to hide distractions and focus on specific tasks for better concentration.
- Imagine future improvements for enhanced usability, such as gesture support and more hands-on controls.
- Consider the spatial computing benefits and customization options of the Vision Pro compared to traditional multiple monitor setups.
- Embrace the adaptability to lower resolution over time and make the most of the immersive experience offered by the Vision Pro.
- Emphasize the comfort and lightweight design of the Vision Pro compared to other devices like the airpods Max.
- Acknowledge the surprising endurance and positive user experience even after an 8-hour workday with the Vision Pro.
The Vision Pro will never be mainstream. While it may be a fun novelty in the short term, when people begin having serious eye problems and other health issues, this will be quickly abandoned by Apple.
Over a period of months you'll realize what the consequences are of having a screen so close to your eyes.
How much are your eyes worth? Everyone needs to decide for themselves if it's worth it.
Pretty nice video! You proved that the virtual worlds will be the future soon.
I would like to know if screens are stable in places like traditional ones?
Now I really get the spatial aspect 🔥 🔥 🔥
It may be just me, but people recording on the vision pro has created a surge in first-person-view videos. I have never seen Max walking around in his office, I have never seen what his environment was like. Something just clicked in my brain and I think first person videos are gonna be huge.
Ok the demo of having different screens in different parts of the office was epic.
Imagine taking your computer screen to your bathroom,mix videos while showering
It’s not water proof. That will be the $10,500 Vision Ultra, coming soon.😂
@@innnews6299 I thought apple products were water proof
Apple Vision Scuba Goggles
Did anyone else notice the audio change at 3:25? Sounds like it removed echo. Was that a editing choice or done by the AVP while screen recording?
We noticed that when you're screen recording and you immerse yourself, your audio changes with it. Those are the little details apple has put into the VP!
@@MaxTechOfficial that is EPIC
Now people can immerse themselves even more in TikTok, UA-cam shorts, and Instagram reels on bigger screens!
Max just triggered all my Apple devices to go nuts with “Hey Siri” 😂
Final Cut Pro is now on the iPad, so it shouldn't be long before Apple ports it to the Vision Pro. That's what I see a lot of people trying to run on it, and even as it is, it seems to work pretty well.
There is a replacement speaker for the Vision Pro that includes a USB port, specifically for developers.
I'm not sure what I need a bunch of displays all over the place for. I think I'll get similar functionality with just one screen and save a lot of money by just getting a new iPad.
One can always save money. But I used to share your type of logic when in-car GPS displays were just being introduced. (Yes, I go back a long way. grin) I felt I could just as easily get by using paper maps for directions and route planning in stead of purchasing a GPS gadget like "Tom Tom" or a "Garmin" - remember those? I was wrong because I didn't have any "in-dash" GPS automobile use experience.
Thanks for sharing that perspective. Very good point! @@michaelbabiuk8758
This is just the beginning. In the future, we will have a single device, eliminating the need for an iPad, iPhone, laptop, local PC, Apple TV, or any monitor, navigation system, or media player, such as those for radio, video, and music, to watch movies. It's a long journey ahead, but that's the direction we're heading. I anticipate that the size and weight of this device will be significantly reduced. In the future, this device will be used to influence our brains to enhance work efficiency and psychological/emotional well-being. Everyone will be capable of performing any task, guided by vision or a similar device, i.e., a brain-connected chip. Thinking further ahead, we might not even need to travel for vacations. We will be able to enjoy our local surroundings with different visualizations and experiences. Education will undergo significant changes. All children will utilize a chip or device from an early age to enhance their learning. We are on the brink of extraordinary times.
So now that the Quest 3 has color passthrough, can connect to either macOS or Windows, use up to 5 displays for the computer, internal battery, and has the ability to grab controllers for games, is the Vision Pro worth the extra $3,000?
I think you pay for the quality for Vision Pro
Im not sure about having Wi-Fi connected computer sitting on user’s forehead for long periods of time. What will it do to the brain? Or eyes? Will it be healthy?
Really liked this video as well. I'm not quite sure I see the point of using this for a 24-hour session though...
What a great video. Actually seeing you guys do work in this device, and getting a behind-the-scenes peek! Awesome.
I can’t afford VP yet (not broke but I do budget 😉) but I’m thinking as soon as I have budgeted enough for it I’ll pull the trigger…
And yes guys I want to see you push 24 hours in this thing
"That's audio issue is not a flaw Max, you are wearing it wrong." - Tim Cook
It will never sell to expensive and its just not there yet, people will try it and then they’re gonna be sending it right back Mark, my words.
The thing being standalone computer is not very useful to me. From productivity I guess the killer feature would be to act as multiple display setup for Mac something like 4x 40”. What would also be cool is a mode allowing selective passthrough for mouse and keyboard so you don’t lose track of where they are, while darkening everything else.
I was skeptical but went to store
And did a demo
And ordered one…
This is amazing tech and true Ai, people are sleeping on this Apple tech
I also bought more Apple
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That's a huge disconnect - that the audio doesn't switch with the video from the macbook (nice catch).