The Flash Spoiler Review & SnyderCult Rant
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2023
- The Flash isn't doing great at the box office which is honestly a shame. It was a pretty awesome flick that people are not going to see. One reason why is the poisoning of the well thanks to the Snydercult. Ezra Miller being a sketchy individual isn't helping things either. That said, the film is fun, exciting and has some great heart. I give you my spoiler-filled thoughts on The Flash!
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This movie is the closest we'll ever get to Micheal Keaton being in a justice league team. It was awesome seeing him with supergirl and flash
I didn’t particularly like it but I respect your opinion. I’m just so tired of multiverse movies they are such nostalgia bait
I quite liked ‘The Flash’ but I get your point. The “Multiverse” concept is getting a little lame.
I'm tired of the shared universe crap. Phase 4 exists simple to exist and the DCEU has been without a point ever since Josstice League. Infinity Saga was good, because it began and ended. I wish WBD would just drop the obsession and get back to closed-ended franchises.
@@MSgt_0699 Kevin Feige Reveals What Marvel's Phase 4 Is Really All About
Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige reveals that while previous MCU phases didn't always have a theme, the current Phase 4 definitely does.
Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige seems to have things all figured out when it comes to the future of these massively popular comic book movies. Well, at the very least, he's extremely adept at making it look like he has it all figured out. As a result, the Marvel Cinematic Universe (which now includes their new Disney Plus shows like The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and now the rather "out with a whimper" series Loki), has a pretty clearly defined future as it powers through its 4th phase of projects, and it turns out they'll be sharing a bit of a theme.
While the Marvel Cinematic Universe hasn't always been under the same leadership, it's always been divided into phases right from the start. From the first Iron Man in 2008 all the way to Avengers: Endgame and beyond, every phase begins with some standalone films and ends with a big ensemble blowout with quips and banter aplenty. Phase 4's main difference so far is that it launched via several TV shows before premiering its first movie (the prequel film Black Widow), but now that it's in full swing, things are ready to really begin.
In a recent interview with Rotten Tomatoes, Feige clarified what he believes is the overarching theme of the MCU's current phase. "Truthfully, Phase Four was always about continuing in new ways and new beginnings," he explained. "Even with films that seemingly are concluding storylines, there are new beginnings within them." After 3 phases largely revolving around the same core cast of characters with the occasional newbie joining the fray, focusing entirely on the new kids might be exactly what the MCU needs to keep things fresh going forward.
The thing is, Feige normally doesn't subscribe to the idea of phases among the Marvel movies. Sure, they're rather clearly defined and tend to be unavoidable when there are so many stories being told. After all, when these many characters come together, there has to be some kind of order to the chaos in order for any of it to make sense. But his focus seems to be more on the stories themselves rather than the bigger picture. Even so, he acknowledges the undeniable fact that these new upcoming films will share a common theme.
While there have been plenty of longer-running franchises out there, Marvel as a whole has all the others beat when it comes to the sheer volume of projects under its banner. To put it in perspective, imagine if every single James Bond movie ever made had come out in the span of just over a decade rather than the 60-year history it currently boasts. Even then, Marvel would quickly have it beat, with highly anticipated movies like Shang-Chi and similarly awaited shows like She-Hulk looming on the horizon.
Even though Marvel is pretty much as mainstream as it gets nowadays, it's still accomplished one heck of a feat (or several, if each phase is its own feat, because getting annoyingly technical is fun). Some might be experiencing some burnout on the series, but the idea of focusing almost entirely on new beginnings, as Feige said, might be exactly what the franchise needs to keep people interested. If not, then there's always Star Wars for those who'd rather complain about other things.
Kevin Feige Says the Post-‘Avengers 4’ MCU May Be a “New Thing”, Not “Phase 4"
KEVIN FEIGE BREAKS DOWN THE MCU'S PHASE 4 SO FAR: WANDAVISION, FALCON, LOKI, AND BLACK WIDOW
IN THIS EXCLUSIVE, THE PRESIDENT OF MARVEL STUDIOS REFLECTS ON HOW ENDGAME GAVE US HOPE IN THE PANDEMIC, THE EVOLUTION OF THE MCU ON DISNEY+, AND WHEN WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE KATHRYN HAHN AND FLORENCE PUGH BACK IN THIS UNIVERSE.
Kevin Feige Says Marvel Studios Phase 4 Is About New Beginnings
Marvel Studios' "Phase Four" lineup of original content is already drastically different from the three that preceded it in two major ways: 1. It's only slated to be about two years long rather than three or four; and 2. It expands beyond movies and includes Disney+ original shows. After multiple COVID-19 delays we're finally in the thick of their plans with three shows behind us and one movie in the wind, and Marvel Studios is keeping their "foot on the gas" as company head Kevin Feige says in a new interview. He also offered some perspective on the theme of Phase Four.
"You know the definition of phases often evolve with the phases and often I leave up to writers and journalists to decide, that's for the film historians to tell us what the phases were about," Feige told Rotten Tomatoes. "Truthfully Phase Four was always about continuing in new ways and new beginnings, even with films that seemingly are concluding storylines there are new beginnings within them and that was what was most exciting to us about the opportunity to make shows for Disney+, about all of us at Marvel Studios choosing to continue past Endgame and past Far From Home and leaving the Infinity Saga behind to a new beginning."
He continued, "That I think is what people will be looking at Phase Four, I hope, as having accomplished. But we're in the middle of it now so it remains to be seen, we don't take our foot off the gas, we don't take anything for granted, and we all work extremely hard to deliver."
The next two years on Marvel's schedule is absolutely stacked with the announced releases including: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings on September 3, 2021, Eternals on November 5, 2021, Spider-Man: No Way Home on December 17, 2021, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness on March 25, 2022, Thor: Love and Thunder on May 6, 2022, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever on July 8, 2022, The Marvels on November 11, 2022, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania on February 17, 2023, and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 on May 5, 2023.
Disney+ shows in the works from Marvel that will arrive over the next couple of years include the animated What If...? on August 11, 2021, Ms. Marvel and Hawkeye in late 2021, Moon Knight, She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, and The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special in 2022, and Ironheart, Armor Wars, and the Untitled Wakanda series, which are without release windows.
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They have a plan, we just can't see it yet. We are just starting to get on a path. I think in hindsight phase 4 will become more important as time goes on. Just like Thor's Dark World.
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indeed
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Phase 4 feels a lot like Phase 2 which set up a lot of things for Phase 3.
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The Normies tend to go along with whatever the popular criticism is at the time. They complained about phase 4 but also praised the shows, so there's no consistency.
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@notquitecenter All channels do that. It's popular to hate on Marvel right now, so they're doing it.
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I just think people are still overly hyped from the Infinity War and End game. That that's all they want, they want to know EVERYTHING right now, but that's not how a story works. People just need to relax.
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and these comments with "they had no plan and no direction", well duh you don't see it yet since phase 4 was the setup. They DO have a plan for all of it, it's just not a self contained phase that answers everything, like how is that so hard to understand
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Rather than plot connections, the movies were connected by the concepts of grief and legacy.
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Chaos T quote-
The rise of the youtube grifter has lead to a lot of the "Phase 4 sucks" rhetoric. Many content creators sole existence on the platform is catering to the neckbeard gate keepers in entertainment fandom. We saw this concept play out this week when all the usual grifters were up in arms about the Star Wars release schedule presented at Star Wars Celebration.
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@serenityq26 Seems people only want the avengers again but would complain if they brought them back. They complained not enough characters died in infinity war then lots of them retire and they complain. They complain they need a break, pandemic happen and we got no movies, they complained that there were no films, they complain that it should all end and its all a cash grab and nostalgia berries have them believing thor 2 iron man 2 hulk 1, avengers 2, etc were all peak and not also a drop from the usual that was each phase. This phase on paper is stronger and has more variety than other phases which were mostly earth based and about a coming of age or new hero's journey. Now were getting discussions on destiny, family, loss of time, hope, life, depression, loathing, love, etc but people are too busy dunking to review the movies without asking where is this all heading hurry up. We ask for movies to be less predictable then when they arent signposting where they are going we ask where are we going this is boring. etc. There have been some not for everyone movies and tv, but it's not any worst than the normal 5/10 stuff on other media...and has highs of 8/10 which is watchable.
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Nicolas Cage fighting a spider was from a story Kevin Smith told about the Superman sequel he was hired to write. Supes fighting a giant robot spider was one of the things the producer insisted was in the film.
Yeah, pretty bad when the producers, writers, and director can't recognize the issue with hamming up Nicolas Cage, but shoving Henry Cavill far to the side in a DCEU where Cavill actually was frickin' Superman.
Every time I see Miller on the screen I'm reminded of the video clip of Ezra strangling and pushing over a pregnant woman.
Gonna love the Keaton sections when their out on UA-cam in 6-12 months time.
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The giant spider that Nick Cage Superman fights wasn’t a deep cut from the comics. It was actually a nod to a producer working on the Superman Lives film that Nick Cage would’ve starred in. Kevin Smith went into detail years ago about how this guy wanted Superman to fight a giant spider, regardless of what the actual story involved. This producer would eventually go on to work on Will Smith’s Wild Wild West where the iconic enemy of that film is- you guessed it- a giant spider. My buddy and I just lost it when we saw the freaking spider on screen. Genuinely hilarious
I despise everything to do with the Snyder cultists and I refuse to see this movie 100% because of Ezra and the studio that continues to support him.
Wtf is a Snyder cultist? Just because people like his films?? because the dceu turned to shit when they got rid of him.
The Anti Snyder cult are the real problem
Totally understand why this film is polarizing - but personally, I'm with you Adam: I really loved it. A lot of lowest-common denominator fan service and wonky CGI didn't pull me out of the particularly strong narrative. All the stuff with Barry, himself, and his mom was excellent. I felt Keaton was a bit wasted: but he wasn't bastardized or ruined at all, which was nice. The George Clooney cameo was awesome. Such a fun / joke moment that I really enjoyed, even if it basically invalidates the entire "universe."
Loves the Flash. Michael Keaton Batman made me tear up a little. 89 Batman was a HUGE part of my childhood. Sad to see people not giving it a chance.
I think it's because most people who saw it did not like it. All those celebrity declarations that it is the best thing ever were clearly lies meant to generate enthusiasm for a movie that did not deliver at all.
@@MSgt_0699lol what? Most of the people who saw it did like it. Did they think it was a masterpiece of epic proportions? No, they didn't cause it wasn't. But the overall consensus that came out after people saw it was that yeah, it was pretty good.
@@doc8013 I don't think so. I think more people insisted on liking it than genuinely liked it. Most will not see it again. I gave it a second viewing when it released to home. But I wound up liking it even less.
The fact that people offer multiple caveats on why it is not a good movie, while saying that they liked it, is a reveal. It is yet another super-hero one-off.
@@MSgt_0699 caveats always come with movies with problems. This movie has problems, so people voiced their opinions on those problems. You're suggesting that instead of them actually liking it, they're talking themselves into liking it. Lol that doesn't fly. It's a decent movie. Lots of heart. Let's be honest, most of the vitriol and drama surrounding the discourse of this movie is because of those cultists who claim to be fans. They simply just cannot let the past go.
@@doc8013 Those Snyderverse(?) cultists typically can't even explain why they like only one thing anymore. They are more caught up in their own shallow heads. I'm a huge Snyderverse guy. But unless we see an animated finish, it's done. I have the great satisfaction of Snyder's Trilogy being a complete package. I love it, and The Batman, and Joker. It's the drama and seriousness that pulls me. Although I did like Gunn's Suicide Squad too, while acknowledging that he hammed up the B characters.
I thought The Flash trailer looked like it was going to make Snyderverse numbers. But it didn't because it was more of the same comedy-filled Hamada crap that has earned WB flop after flop. The drama was tampered and even dismissed at times, and the comedy was prevalent, which turned what drama was there into nothing. It also just looked terrible. Even people who genuinely liked it shrugged it off as soon as they left the theater. It's yet another one-off in a dead franchise. This is why Gunn has to slam a homerun with Superman: Legacy. I hope he learned some lessons that this wrecked DCEU had to teach.
Adam the movie wasn't good just face it people are tired of the MCU
Formula of non stop corny jokes and nostalgia bait also the cgi didn't help
Most normal people like and want zack snyder verse because its not mcu
This is objectively not true. Why has everyone forgotten how much Snyder and his movies were dumped on when MoS and BvS came out? Suicide Squad?? Snyderverse was not popular. The most profitable movie in the DCEU was Aquaman and that movie was all camp. Batman and Joker aren’t even in the DCEU and they are also the most popular and most profitable movies in years. BvS made money because it was Batman and Superman in a movie together for the first time and considering that fact people thought it flopped because it didn’t even break a billion.
@@ThePeacemakerDude
MOS
Most grossing superman film
BvS ultimate edition record breaking blu ray sales
BvS 900 mil despite it being removed 2 weeks early
Seriously dude what are you talking about lmao
I didn't hate this movie, I was just disappointed with how this film was executed by director Anthony Muschietti. I guess the writer deserves some blame too based on how basic the plot was. I'll more than likely revisit The Flash, it did have its moments.
In his defense I think he was the 4th director that worked on it.
@@Seacai150 I actually liked Muschietti's "IT" movies. I'm sure he'll deliver on future projects. I hear he's directing the Manga Attack on Titan before The Brave and the Bold.
@@88detour I think he did what he could with it.
I think we all know Adam would 100% win in hand to hand combat against Nerdrotic.... jus saying 🤷 😌
Hell yeah, Adam has destroyed annoying movie goers at the movie theater many times.
@@thequiet5727 And yet it seems they´re still coming back. So Adam´s job is not done yet. 😉
I'd like to see it.
Adam how much is james gunn paying you 😂😂
I wish that were the case. I’m irrelevant
Came for the sound effects stayed for the review
Snyder's 3 movies were easily my favorite out of the dozen or so movies we have gotten but I still enjoyed 'The Flash' and many others. Im just happy we are getting DC movies
Nah my fav were Aquaman, wonder woman, birds of prey, Shazam and the flash. I love the early DCeu movies but they lacked real character. It was more about the allegory and themes than the actual characters
@mania4270 Yeah I liked all of those movies except Shazam. I thought that movie was just an mcu rip off honestly. I like the mcu but I'm getting sick of there needing to be a joke every 2 minutes
@@Deadpool784 well I was sick of that since avengers 1. I remember a friend of mine even pointing out in the theater saying "dude why are they cracking all these jokes". So I've been tired of MCU for a while now. It's not that I hate the movies, it's just that they felt like kid movies. With man of steel and BVS, DC had a dark tone which I liked. The problem with man of steel is that we barely got know Clark. I like seeing Superman be Clark Kent and date Lois and I felt Lois knowing kinda made their relationship uninteresting. In the og superman, he was a CHARACTER. He had a PERSONALITY. He was funny. He was awkward. Entertaining to watch as both Clark and Superman. In Snyder's movies didn't have that same level of character interaction between the cast. Lawrence fishbourne has some good lines but everyone else kind of sits there. His movies became more about the analysis of what Superman is but the problem is that it didn't tell us something we already didn't know about supes. Nothing wrong with a more serious take on Superman, but his every day life should be well done as well. Not just the CGI krypton shit.
@mania4270 Yeah I get those complaints. I think DC and Marvel would both be best of they gave us a bunch of different movies with drastically different tones and focus more on the characters
I’m a Snyder Man of steel fan and I thought this movie slapped. In fact I thought movie paid a lot of respect to Snyder’s vision a lot actually. I just wish we could get a Superman and Supergirl movie where they are together just kicking ass!
It was fun. The movie deserved better visual effects.
“If you’re nothing without your powers, then you shouldn’t have them.”
- someone really familiar
Tony Stark, is that you?
The movie felt like a prank. I kept wondering when the real movie was going to start.
You probably already know this but the song You’ve got the touch was not only for the Transformers cartoon. It was also one of two awesome Dirk Diggler songs he sang in Boogie Nights. The other song was Feel My Heat 😂
For me the movie was ok i am in the 6 or 7 out of 10, but nothing to really talk about. I went with my wife, daughter & niece and they all enjoy it but didn't talk about the movie not even for 1 second in the car in our way back, they didn't care about none of the cameos.... Ezra has a lot of personal issues, just like amber heard, and what do you think will happen if the aquaman 2 movie flops?, its going to get blame on AH... There's a polarizing market in you tube for every opinion. for every Drinker or Nerdrotic there's a john Campea or Chris Stuckman or ....(insert name, lol) on the other side. Usually, i give every movie an opportunity but all the leaks, you tube videos are spoiling everything and you don't get the same hype anymore.
These haters are just angry the snyder verse isn't restored. Warner bros ain't going to do that, they already destroyed it years ago.
They're are already saying James Gunn's Superman is the 'worst' like c'mon man.
It's so embarrassing.
Destroyed? 😂😂
Zack Snyder movies made way more money than these crapp movies
Even the BvS theater version made 900 mil despite it being removed from theaters 2 weeks early 😂
People are tired of the mcu formula non stop
Corny jokes and nostalgia bait
@@jesusnevarez9558 BvS did not break 900 million. Also, are you forgetting that BvS had probably the most dramatic second weekend drop of any movie at the time? That movie had the benefit of being the first movie with Batman and Superman. People hated it and that stained DC moving forward. Aquaman even made more than BvS and that was silliest movie I’ve ever seen.
@@ThePeacemakerDude BvS theater cut
Made 895 mil that's still a good success
Ultimate edition broke records for most blu ray sales
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about
I simply had to do a quick google search to find out you were wrong. 872.7 million USD worldwide box office gross.
It really isnt that good a movie to be making a fuss over.
10:28 "Multiverse spaghetti", I'm stealing that!
Yeah that was one of the few good scenes in the movie.
George Clooney was in BATMAN & ROBIN.
I took my 14 year old daughter, thoroughly enjoyed it. Lots of good humor, action and nostalgia and a few cool surprises, what's not to like?
Well the lead actor abuses women. 🤷♀️
@@Infamous1892 use your freaking brain for once and take In account to separate the two things lol it’s a movie there’s been worse actors then Ezra that’s been on movies before. The world doesn’t revolve around you.
Your 14 year old liked it ...
That tells us alot
@@ajaxcomet4762 dude it’s a freaking movie it ain’t the deepest thing in your or my life. I kinda don’t care I like the movie no it’s probably up there with my favorite comic book movie in the last 4 years.
@@1kbmahanso you'll support an actor no matter what he does ?
You have no morals just say that .
You do know by support this movie you put money in miller's pockets to cause more havoc but hey if he's in a mediocre film that's enough for you 🤷🏿♀️
Adam how do you know snyder fans aren't fans of you as well?
Way you alienate your audience
Did you miss the part where I mentioned the difference between a fan of Snyders stuff and the trolls on Twitter that leak movies early and try to get James Gunn fired? I don’t really care if those clowns stick around. I want healthy moviegoers. Snyder made some great flicks. MOS being one of my favorite DCU movies.
The industry sees us as all one big chaotic hive mind instead of fans that actually enjoyed what Snyder brought to the table. During his tenure, we constantly were being reamed for enjoying his take on the character and stories. Not to include what fans had to endure from the fickle & aimless nature of WB alone. And now that that period is over, we're taking heat for future failings of these movies. Some of us honestly have no interest in investing in an industry full of formulaic MCU-like, 1&done movies that industry thinks is the standard for CBMs. The days of Watchmen, MoS, Logan, Daredevil (Netflix), Blade, etc. are unfortunately over.
Brah, Christopher Reeve did not “look ok”
I'd love for Adam to bring up the man babies going after Indiana Jones too when that comes out. Even if you don't end up liking the film, what the hell is wrong with some of these people? It's actually so vile and disgusting the stuff they say about actual real life people because they disagree with the way they made a film
Harrison Ford is 80!! The last Indiana Jones movie was universally hated and it came out 15 years ago. However, now you feel that everyone should look forward to an 80 year old man carrying a whip or at least not talk about the absurdity of it. Especially since he kicked major ass in the last one 🙄 I’m sure at 80 he’ll be rolling through bad guys John Wick style. Talk about suspension of disbelief! You have to admit that there is a more than an excellent chance that this movie will suck and it won’t be b/c the audience is being unfair. Did I mention the ACTION star of the movie is 80!!!!!!!!!! Men that old aren’t kicking ass. You said it’s vile and disgusting the way people are going to attack this old man for making an action movie. These people have every right to be upset. We have all been invested in this legendary character and franchise for decades and we deserved better than the crap he put out at 65 years old. Now they’re going to do it again but this time he’s 80! Meanwhile you just want us to take it and smile and not point out that they are ruining the legacy of a childhood hero to most men over 30. When this movie ultimately fails you’re just going to sit back and wait for the negative responses for this POS just so you can say “I told you so.” Let me ask you this, if Harrison Ford lives to be 100 years old and they make another Indiana Jones movie. Can I get mad then or am I still a baby? Just curious what the cut off age is for when an action star goes from bad ass to old man.
I'll admit that I decided to skip it because of Ezra Miller. But I'm not judging anyone who did see it. Separating an artist from their work is a complex nuanced topic. Hell, I might end up checking it out on streaming once it's been on there for a couple of months. I just didn't feel like seeing it in theaters.
totally agree!
Every single Snyder DC movie underperformed financially. The spin offs of his films did way better. Why would they give him control back?
@President Joseph Biden I find it funny you’re trying to claim Aquaman when that was after Snyder was ousted and it was the exact opposite of everything Snyder had in mind for the character.
I think you mean BATMAN & ROBIN, Adam. 😉Clooney was so unexpected and yet so fitting for the joyous movie. And yet what we have is actually a tragedy, Barry didn´t save the day, he was his own worst enemy, Zod was more of a background villain. Heroes actually died. How refreshing. But even with the somber note what a joy. 😍 Perhaps it added what the Snyder movies were missing. Even if I like them.
The tone is on the border between working perfectly or oh shit it's about to be torn apart. But overall VERY entertaining, surprisingly funny.
I remember on Twitter someone says Zack Snyders the blueprint when New York skies weren’t looking that good because of the Canada fires
It was slightly messy but had more than enough strong points and characters to make it a super fun watch. I have been a fan of the character since I was a kid, even though I wasnt a DC fan and this was very satisfying. Plus Supergirl was hot af.
My reasons for not seeing it:
I can’t stand Ezra Miller’s portrayal of Barry Allen (which is the fault of the writing of the character on screen).
Dead end storytelling.
Not a fan of the tired multiverse storytelling that’s in currently (same reason I’m not interested in the Spider-Verse movies and the MCU post Endgame).
Not a fan of Ezra Miller’s behavior as a human being and his getting a pass due to the community he associates with.
Nic Cage was gonna be Supermam in a Tim Burton directed movie written by Kevin Smith. How weird does that sentence sound? He got fitted for his supes suit and everything. There's a documentary out there about it that's pretty entertaining.
Hard disagree. It's tripe.
To be fair though, I grew out of superhero movies around Iron Man 2, and multiverse garbage has always been the dumbest, laziest shit ever, imo.
The Flash's FX were so bad, it was causing me to stack anger on top of fatigue, distaste and disappointment.
The opening was okay, but they didn't carry the tone or quality through the movie.
The problem was the third act. The original filmed third act should have been left. This movie 🍿🎥, spoilers from here.
The movie finished on a massive downer. Supergirl dead, Keaton dead. It just finished wrong. The original ending had both Kara and Keaton appear at the end in the new timeline. With Clark, Author, Diana all there. It would have been good.
I mean I still hate this movie for bolstering Ezra Piece Of Shit Miller, but yeah I'm not really boycotting the film because I was never going to see it anyways, and if you want to see it, go for it.
It is i agree. My friends and went to The Flash mostly for Keaton's Return as Batman but came out enjoying the movie more than we thought. Everyone else in theater was same way.
I’ve been laughing for days , the Flash burning at the box office is awesome and I’ve been smiling non stop. Plus my reason for being so happy is nothing to do with Synder. You might love this movie good for you, but Ive refused to support this movie purely because of Ezra the stain miller. Now allegations aside, he’s attacked and threatened and multiple people. I’ve got nothing against people watching the movie I hope they enjoy it, but that doesn’t mean I have to support this movie or support his success simple.
Yeah so I loved Synder vision it’s 100 x better than what’ve had since. Adam I’m not on Twitter but Synder is nothing to do with this movie tanking. There’s 2 main reasons, 1 Gunn burned it all down, so who should care, the universe is completely dead. So why should people who loved something turn up to the movie that destroys what people loved and leave the worst part about it.
Which is the 2nd reason Ezra the stain miller, people don’t want to support his success and you shouldn’t slam people that have chosen to vote with their wallets.
Dunno wtf George Clooney was doing for a cameo. I was like dont' say " Im Batman" lol😂
I love snyder movies and also enjoyed the flash. I thought they way they told his origin the way he had to relive it kinda threw the other Barry was interesting
If you notice Adam Keaton also used the same facial gestures and expressions watched 89 and Returns before watching this Keaton did not really miss a beat
You were pretty on point in your reflection, I did enjoy the film. I texted my sister and my friend my initial thoughts of the film, I said the first 30 minutes not including the intro were pretty weak. I didnt like how they wrote this version of the flash in the early part of the film, he creeped me out. I started to enjoy the film when the main plot started, the whole going back in time to stop the murder of his mother. Yes, I agree i think i enjoyed alot of this film because it did things i have not seen. The Michael Keaton scenes were great, especially the dedication to the 1989 interpretation of him, his weapons and batttle tactics were spot on.
Tim Burton was in the production of a movie project that never came out: Superman Lives. Nicolas Cage was Superman in that project. Also Kevin Smith was involved in rewrites I believe? And the producer told him that he wanted Superman fighting a mechanical spider (which in the end landed in the Movie Wild Wild West). I don't remember the exact details, but there's a popular youtube video of him talking about it. That's where these came from :)
I enjoyed this film. The cgi didn’t take me out at all, it wasn’t great but I still enjoyed it. Don’t come at me with all the flash lore, I haven’t seen any of the tv series or read any of the comics. Ezra’s personal shit aside, he did a great job playing these roles. This movie was a lot of fun for me, I smiled through the whole film.
I had a great time watching The Flash.
Lots of fantastic action scenes balance out the dramatic plot.
As horrible of a person as Ezra Miller has been his performances were outstanding.
Keaton's Batman was introduced in a really interesting way.
But you were able to spot that it was him easily.
The CGI was hit and miss.
I agree that the babies scene wasn't great.
The SuperGirl action scenes were worse, imo.
It felt like they were using some dated technology.
Nice cameos, too.
Although the Christopher Reeve one was a little cringey looking.
I'd give this another watch soon and will be buying it on Blu Ray.
He put the baby in the microwave so it wouldn't get burned its past through fire from the oxygen tank. If he was trying to avoid smashing heads he would have put all of them in a microwave
What’s the deal with young flash and the bullet injury in the knee? Why didn’t it heal?
Great review my friend! I loved the movie and gonna go see it again with my 22 year old son next week. The Clooney segment was hilarious 😂
The desert location was based on Man of Steel. It’s the desert that Zod originally met with the humans to collect the Kryptonion. Obviously, they could have changed that but that’s why i think that was the spot.
That was my take away too. 😉
Budget probably
Loved your recap. It reminded me of all the things that WERE very good about it (some of which I'd already forgotten, because there's SO MUCH thrown at the wall). I'm still not convinced to rush out and see it again. I think it might be worthy of a Blu-ray pickup, later on.
The problem I had with it (outside of Ezra sometimes just being good at the performance but just a bit too obnoxious) ...is that it was all so pointless.
You brought up an interesting comparison between this Zod being uninteresting vs the Man of Steel Zod, just like Endgame Thanos was a bummer compared to Infinity War Thanos. Likewise, I thought the resolution of the big "Zod fight" to let his Mom die was LAME in the same way that Endgame using time travel to defeat Thanos was LAME.
While it didn't prevent the idea of us seeing Keaton Batman and Calle Supergirl ever again, it was a completely dissatisfying way to leave their story unresolved. (One would presume Zod would still be coming in their future, right?)
And....Clooney is a reference to Batman & Robin, not Batman Forever (which was Val Kilmer). 😉
Hey Adam I thought once you were a danger to the UA-cam community but you are proving me wrong.
I didn't get what third Barry was doing for all those years in that space?
I can't believe you liked it. Ezra's acting is pathetic, almost clinical... and pretty women generally don't fall for psychiatric patients.
Snyderverse cult already complaining about Aquaman's son being killed by Black Manta. So Snyder cult all seen Aquaman 2 already saying it sucks before its release in December😂
I finally saw it and I have to say I'm not a fan. The baby scene was just TERRIBLE and mixing in the silly humor instead of making it heroic was a mistake. I was cool with the two Barry's thing other than the fact that the younger one was so grating that it made me root for Zod. I liked Keaton in this although there were moments that were shaky (he is 70 in this). But the surprise for me was Kara who I really liked (despite the horrific CG in the breakout scene). Then to cement my dislike of the film, they decided they couldn't win and therefore should just let Zod win and let everyone on Earth die (including Barry's family). Then you lose younger Barry, Batman, and they allow Kara to die like that without even finding a way to bring her back in the end (originally in the movie but changed by the idiots in charge) and the finale is Clooney-Batman saying hi.
I'll be honest, the movie really was trash, although it had some very good moments. It definitely had the potential to be a great movie. Even going in with low expectations I was disappointed.
I personally found this movie to be so disappointing however that being said thought I am glad you enjoyed this movie more then I did because at the end of the day we all have are own opinions.
Tim Burton was attached to Direct the canceled Superman film starring Nicolas Cage.
Plus the Spiderthing was an idea too. Kevin Smith talked about it.
Truthfully, it's not ONE of the BEST SUPERHERO MOVIES of ALL TIME, but this movie gets lots of the story beats right; Andy Muschietti's direction is almost impeccable, the comic timing is pretty good and some really decent performances from key actors (even if some find Young Barry incredibly annoying at times).
The biggest gripe that drags The Flash down for me is its ghoulish PS2-quality VFX which almost reminds me of some of the nightmarish montages from 'Where The Dead Go To Die', one of the worst animated cgi movie of all time (watch it at your own risk!)
People said Snyder ruined DC until he had a family tragedy and left. Then they started demanding the Snyder Cut and basically worship him now. They wouldn’t be pleased even if he did return. They’d find something new to complain about.
Snyder bros are insane
Enjoyed the movie, cast, and cameos. Don’t know or care about the hate on both ends I loved it and will watch again, plus enjoy having the theatre all to myself. It’s your loss, have fun living in your moms basement.
What was the point of Flash saving that kid in the downtown area before his dad gets vaporized by the terraforming scene ???
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who couldn’t stand the Wonder Woman theme music
Props on the deep cut Transformers reference 🙌🏼
Seeing all the Michael Keaton scenes really makes me want to see the batgirl movie 😂
I really liked this film. Keaton was perfect. The film is very flawed but the good FAR outweigh the bad. Supergirl was already great though she wasn't in the film for too long. As for Snyder, I hate everything about his films. I don't even like the way they look. Nothing!
Snydercult wanna destroy every single future DCU film. They blame James Gunn this, James Gunn that😂
Bro the movie was terrible
First off: butchering the Flashpoint story
Second, Barry didn't learn the lesson of the movie since he still fucked with the past by messing with the security cam which threw him into an other world where George Clooney is Bruce Wayne
thirds, he got Supergirl and Batman killed because of his selfishness
and lastly, the killer (Revers Flash) is never shown in the movie and not once does Barry even think or consider to finding out WHO killed his mom.
They just let thant glance over makes NO sense
All because the director really thought'd itd be a good idea to ignore such a glaring thing only to put it in the sequel whch....is stupid
really sad to this internet trolls are trying to destroy this movie
George Clooney was in BATMAN AND ROBIN. Val Kilmer was in BATMAN FOREVER. Unfortunately, Val couldn't be in this one.
So disappointed with this movie. A mixed bag of Schumacher cheese, Whedon cringe, Hamada's goofy comedy, with a salting of Burton goth and Snyder drama. Muschietti and the writers tried to please everybody. It was like Josstice League all over again. The story was very nonsensical and the CG was so very bad and distracting. Flash's Mom dying somehow affected some deep space killing of baby Superman?! Her death somehow reveals an imprisoned Supergirl who has always been there?! How does Batman look different everywhere, but The Flash is Ezra Miller no matter what?! Saving his Mom had such absurd consequences just by putting the can in the cart, but sure, lets go ahead and move the cans up because we didn't learn anything, which apparently had no consequence other than what was expressly intended. And the end battle in the open desert was meant to avoid the whining about the destruction in MoS. During any good scene I was preoccupied with how bad or senseless the last scene was.
Each Hamada flop is making it that much harder on Gunn to get this shared universe crap going again. Blue Beetle is going to tank too. Even the trailer looked crappy.
YOURE PREAMBLE was right and feel the same theres a lot of madness with regards to this movie Why not enjoy a good movie when its good no movie is perfect.
You know it’s funny the way people were talking about the George reeves and Chris Reeves cameos you’d think they strung up their dead bodies on marionette strings and put an AI generated voice over them and had em flying around lmao I was genuinely concerned for how bad it was going to be only to watch the movie and it was literally a blink and you miss it cameo from both. I mean you could have literally missed George Reeves cameo if you looked down at your popcorn for half a second lmao this movie is fun and emotional and really satisfying as a DC FAN. I can see how Snyder cultists wouldn’t like it but if you’ve felt the physical affection of another human you’d probably at least like this movie lol
1. Zack Snyder has been very clear that he'd like to conclude his story. Thats not up for debate. Their would'nt even be a Snyder movement without Zack lighting the fire.
2. The truly pathetic cult is the anti Snyder cult. If those people had lives their would be much less drama. Any fandom has crazies the larger it gets. It's 1st grade math. On one hand you have people campaigning for a film, on the other hand you have people with no lives telling everyone to stop their successful movement. Its not complicated, they are the toxic ones. Ive seen it first hand for years.
3. Their is one DCEU film with a higher IMDB score than FLASH and it's ZSJL. FLASH is getting too much hate.
I'm with ya brother i"m 46 i just collect the posters now but with saying that most posters are shit also!
See each of Us have opinion my is that Hypocrisy is a thing i dont like. They remove Kevin Spacy from TV Shows, recast him in movies , They boycott comedians for jokes / twitts, not mention Johnny Depp hell, and now you ask me to go see Flash regardless that main actor is a criminal that do not rot in jail only because he pay of, pleading guilty and charges are waived.
Dont want to hyperbole hire but its like netflix clueless,I DON'T GIVE SHIT how good those kids are , watching it is taking part in it by giving them money !!,
Well I'll just remember the first 2 being fun and 3 and 4 just well that they don't exist lol
The CGI is the only problem I have with this movie I want it more cameos of course but everything else was great and Michael Keaton hasn't lost a beat I would watch an entire trilogy of Michael Keaton at the age he is now.
Between you and Stuckman saying you enjoyed yourselves and others like Disparu and Critical Drinker saying its awful, im guessing the film lands somewhere around a 6 for the average viewer. I may stream it someday, but i simply cant support the theatrical run due to Miller's criminal behavior. Regardless of one's opinion on Miller and the relevance of this film due a reboot being on the horizon, i think most can at least agree folks have plenty of good reasons to pass on the film and understand one's lack of desire to see it. A lead surrounded in controversy, a brand known for movies that typically land between bad and painstakingly average, and the superhero genre as a whole being so overly represented.
That said, i definitely look forward to Gunn steering the ship and hope the new DC line of movies is full of fun flicks that i get hype to take the family to. I miss the good ol days of getting hype for nearly every MCU movie .. i hope at least a small bit of that can be felt at the future DC movies.
loved it!!!!
The girl burping Batttman was funny
While as a whole this movie wasnt bad the editing could have been better and its very clear that there were to many cooks spoiling the soup so to speak leading to no clear vision with a last minute lackluster ending. So as it stars out full of sound and fury but as it ends Signifying Nothing ...sigh and it could've really been something...⚡
I loved it honestly. I was a big Snyderverse fan. I’ve grown to hate the community because of how psychotic they are but it’s so weird because this movie was like a love letter to the Snyderverse. Ben Affleck got a pretty epic send off. Gal Gadot got to do a cameo. Jason Momoa got a hilarious after credits scene. They called back to Man of Steel. They brought back Michael Shannon. The music was even somewhat reminiscent of MoS during the fight.
@@jamesearl9202 nah I was a giant Snyder apologist but then I realized how weird and obsessive the Snyder Cult is and while I like the movies still I’m embarrassed to be in that group of weird sycophants.
@@ThePeacemakerDudewhich snyder verse films were you'd favorite?
0:58; 1:35 ; 2:04 AMEN, ADAM.
You mean batman and robin not batman forever
My favorite was they got the Snyder-Cut for Justice league, then they just wanted more, guess what, they will never do that again especially for as much as they spent on that one. All those people that said the movie was 100% done, no it wasn't (extra $70M I believe it was).
Edit: If Indy can survive a nuke in a fridge, a baby can survive a fall in a microwave, LOL!
Ehi!
I’m a fan of Snyder’s work but I never felt in a cult! I just like his superhero movies.
Call it “cult” is offensive. We, as anyone, just don’t want to watch mediocre movies. We, as anyone, are just tired of “meh” content.
We’re not a cult, we’re just humans who would like to finish the story started with MoS.
And blaming fans for a flop isjust pathetic.
In cinema histoy flopped movies that now are considered cult movies and masterpieces like Master and Commander ore Big Trouble in China Town.
Never blame the audience.
Then you are not who I’m referring to.
Boycotting the movie is not ridiculous because fuck Hollywood, but shaming people for wanting to see it is a little ridiculous, and a terrible way to get people to your cause.
Nailed the review. I really enjoyed it. I'd give it top 5 DC films. Maybe top 3 if you don't count Nolans films
Great news this weekend Flash officially dead, hope they announce Ezra the stain miller won’t be coming back soon!
Cage wasn’t George Miller’s choice for Superman
I see flash movie with dad i love i cry lost mother and love dark flash
I just can't wait for the James Gunn era to start!
I thought it was great and can’t understand ALL the negative reviews. SOME I do, but I didn’t think CGI was any worse than any other modern effects heavy movie that’s come out in the last 5 years, so don’t get that criticism.
As believed Snyder fans is small cult that can bomb a movie. Well said DC fan👍🏽
Eobard Thawne killed his mom. The Reverse Flash. I also really enjoyed the flash, fun review!
I loved The Flash... certainly not perfect and has its problems but the Box Office has been impacted by numerous other factors..it's not because the film is bad